The HIDDEN Stories of Pirates of the Caribbean
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- Pirates of the Caribbean and I go way back. Waaay waaaaaay back. And by that I mean 1998. This ride has thrilled and mystified myself and countless others for over 50 years. Funny thing is, there's a lot about the ride that isn't explained. Today, I'm going to try to explain at least SOME of it. At least. We'll see.
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Do I ever get tired of videos from Offhand about anything related to New Orleans Square? Nope! I love these videos, especially when you have Walt Disney talking about the attractions!
New Orleans Square is easily the best Disney land
I know, right? Gotta love these vids!
I Don't get tired of these Films either we are here to have fun and we are here to learn, and this is a good way to start my morning with Offhand Disney if he stops I will be Broken Hearted
Plus Jean LaFeet
Not me, and also, like me, Dallin/Offhand can't get enough of those guest meets./interviews with Walt, "ambassador" Julie R., and some of the legendary Legends. ™
Ignoring all of the more recent Jack Sparrow additions, I've always assumed that the curse was specifically that they were frozen in their current activity forever, unable to move. The curse didn't kill them, directly, but being unable to move, they eventually starved to death and turned to skeletons, still bound together by the curse. This would explain why, for example, a pirate appears to have died while holding a bottle upright and drinking from it, and would even explain why the bottle continues to pour rum - it, too, was cursed and is frozen in its current activity (draining) forever. Anyway, that's the best I could come up with from the available pieces of information.
the curse is them being stuck in the sea of the damned, bound by their lust for treasure reliving their memories for all eternity
I don’t know that (before the movies) the “curse” was literal. It just means it’s bad. As in the pirates commuted evil to get it. “You know where it be hidden, proceed at your own risk”.. in other words if you get caught up in doing what these pirates did you may not live to return to where this treasure is. Pirates end up dead because of their own evil, their own drunkenness etc. treasure means nothing to a dead man. So don’t be like them.
Ooh, I like that idea!
In the video when Walt asks the woman if she believes in Pirates it is a continuation of another conversation earlier in the video. Before showing her models of Pirates, he had shown her early models of the Haunted Mansion. He had asked her if she believed in ghosts, and she said no. So it was a joke. Sorry to be all, "Well, actually" about this, but I just wanted you know. Plus, the video had a lot of Haunted Mansion content before, which I think you might like.
I might be incorrect but I'm 90% certain the woman in the video is Mary Blair who designed much of the scenery and dolls for It's A Small World
@@Baysidemom2 It’s Disneyland ambassador Julie Riehm.
Lol I've seen that episode and yup the haunted mansion stuff was/is sooo cool
@@Baysidemom2 No. Mary was much older and was already getting ready to retire by now
Ah, okay! I was like, what a weird question!
There’s just something so intriguing about the cave scene. I like to think of it as the harsh reality of being a pirate, as most pirates will end up dead with either nothing or a treasure they can’t even use. While the rest of the ride is the “fantasy” that we like to imagine pirates were really like, the cave scene is about people throwing they’re lives away for greed. It’s so spooky and almost saddening, which is why I think it’s the highlight of the ride for me personally.
This is what I always thought as well
Well a new, horrifying interpretation of the ride has just unlocked for me. I really like this way of thinking about it. It's a very harsh and grim look at the reality of it all.
The “You do believe in pirates?” question from Walt is in reference to an earlier part of the show when they were talking to Marc Davis about The Haunted Mansion. Julie said the she didn’t believe in ghosts. The question is Walt joking with her a little.
One of the remaining crowning jewels of the Disney Parks. Current Disney could never dream of pulling this off.
Current ANYONE could never dream of pulling it off. It really feels like a ride that couldn't have been made today
offhand talking about pirates of the caribbean and haunted mansion will never not be the highlight of my day
Dallin as a Disney RUclipsr does two things best:
Videos on Haunted Mansion and videos on Pirates
The Walt intros are such a time capsule.
I gotta say, the cave scene has always been my favorite part since I was very little and visiting Disneyland through my childhood, the smell of the water, the cool air, the calming almost haunting music, and the slow relaxing journey through a room of skeletons really felt fun for my macabre loving little brain.
Of course, all back when Disneyland wasn’t as expensive, currently 20 years old and that location even recently when I went gave me waves of nostalgia, even if the new Star Wars land is my absolute favorite land, Pirates and Haunted Mansion will always be nostalgic and relaxing rides that captured my imagination
Same! I also liked the bats in the caves (the little green eyes that MAY have actually been rats), and would force my parents to go on the same ride at least three times for that reason! Big fan of Peter Pan mostly due to the pirates and such! Such fun times... still incredibly expensive though, which is why it felt so different when we got to go again!
As a historian, pirates sometimes traveled in fleets. It’s possible Red is the captain of her own ship but not the fleet. :-)
I'd join her crew. She seems great!
I worked at Pirates on my DCP in 2019, but watching this I realize that the WDW version is so much more truncated than Disneyland’s. I would love to see the original!
Sea of Thieves also added a lot of lore to the pirates of the caribbean ride through the pirates life tall tales, where the fort is part of jacks memory in the sea of the damned which is how these dead pirates also come back to life, i would definitely dive into that side too as the story has been said to be canonical by disney itself, and considering a major story chapter is the events of the ride, that really supports it further too
As a redhead who is also descended from Anne Bonny herself, the auction scene will always be my favorite because in the original I got a nice little ego boost and in the new version I get to see a character that drew inspiration from my family's past which is actually really freaking cool!
I envy Shanghai for their pirates ride but I hope Disneyland’s stays the same!! I don’t want it to change as this ride is so good, alongside Haunted Mansion!! They’re so incredibly built, and iconic!!
You said it best … “it’s mostly just world building with some beads of story.”
The caves are easily my favorite part of the ride. The atmosphere, the visual storytelling, the sheer amount of detail and the music all come together to create this realm of adventure and mystery. It helps give this pirate attraction a bit of a ghost story angle, especially with the travel through time your boat takes not once, but twice.
The caves also serve the purpose of being a narrative linchpin: prior to the movie additions kinda throwing a lot of the narrative cohesion into question (and I could go on about how so many of those changes don't make sense with the beats, but I digress), what you're seeing is the ultimate fate of the pirates we will later see ransacking the town, and what that ill-gotten loot did to them. I still remember a time when they had pirates in the arsenal scene trying to haul a bag of treasure up the lift hill, and then seeing skeletons along the sides of the lift while "Dead men tell no tales" echoed around again; it's a reminder, a bookend, a callback to those caves. Made a lot more sense then having Jack get the treasure first...
I agree. The movie changes really contradict the whole thesis of the ride. Meaningless death with meaningless treasure is the ultimate end of piracy... unless you're Jack Sparrow and then you're all good. Get as much treasure as you like!
The best rides ever - you nailed it - Pirates and Mansion. I still miss the Redhead.
Easily the top 2
I love the pirates ride and this is off topic but do you remember the concept of pirates they were going to add in hong kong? If so, I honestly think they should have kept the idea but just updated a pirates ride in another park . Idk just wanted to talk about that
What was it?
I always thought basically it was the old man’s dream/fantasy of adventure.
Roman numerals are actually pretty easy. Even if you don’t know all of the symbols off the top of your head (I always forget the symbol for 500), you can usually figure out what number it’s supposed to be if you remember a few basic rules.
1. The Symbols
I = 1
V = 5
X = 10
L = 50
C = 100
D = 500
M = 1000
2. Symbols never repeat more than three times in a row. For example, rather than being IIII, the way you’d write the number four is actually IV. Why? Because of the next rule.
3. For digits that are one unit below the next five or round, use subtraction, and stick the number you’re subtracting in front of the number you’re subtracting it from. When you see IV, think “5-1”, which gives you four. In terms of years, this is done for decades, centuries, millennia, and their halfway points. The year 1900 would be MCM. The leading M gives you 1000, and then CM is 900. 1944 would be MCMXLIV. Take a look at the tablet on the Statue of Liberty, which reads “July IV MDCCLXXVI”, or July 4th, 1776. This year is easy: MMXXII. What about the year that brought up this conversation, MDCXLIII?
M = 1000
D = 500
C = 100
XL = 40 (remember, it’d be 50-10)
III = 3
Add them up from left to right, and you’ve got 1643.
So said our poster, in MMXXIII But I like to call this year MCMCXXIII
My favorite scene is the battle at sea! As a kid it always felt so real to me! It really felt like I was looking up at a dark sky and I could have sworn I saw cannonballs whizzing past our boat!
The scenic caves are always my favorite, they really immerse you before the exciting parts happen. A lot of passion goes into these videos so i'm happy to see another take of POTC/HM by offhand.
I went to Disneyland the other day and a cast member told me it was confirmed cannon that Constance Hatchaway owns the HM!
This was Fantastic! I can't remember the last time I have seen an Offhand Disney with The Pirates of the Caribbean I could never get tired of watching Offhand Disney when you wanna review the Adventure and Education no matter how new or old they are this bring the Legend Walt Disney back in Disneyland, I never saw the tour of Walt Disney before this is Awesome, thank you Dallin
Wonderful, as usual, Dallin! Pirates was closed, when our family went to DL in June, so you just gave me my Pirates fix!
Hi Dallin. I enjoy and appreciate your work. However, your comment on does she believe in pirates was unfounded. Prior to the tour of this pirate section they were looking at the haunted mansion ideas where she said she doesn't believe in ghosts. His asking her that question about the pirates was a jibe. Keep up the good work. Look forward to seeing more from you.
Is "D" the Roman Numeral for 500 or something? I didn't think "D" was a letter used in Roman Numerals.
Yes.
Hey man, that looks pretty cool! Reminds me of a ride in California. Ever been to Disneyland yet?
9:18 There's only one waterfall at Magic Kingdom because the first waterfall is the temporal waterfall. 4:25 🧐
Pirates and Mansion are great in that they are like a relaxing vacation, where you aren't dragged around by your pals who saw the best-thing-ever on tiktok or imagine themselves as an alpha-instagrammer. In Pirates and Mansion, there are no schedules. No itineraries. No details you'd be suffered if you miss looking elsewhere. No convoluted scrips or canon. Just grab a seat. Look around. Get carried around. Relax. And forget that it is hot enough to melt iPhunes outside. And Dallin, ... nice hat!
First to answer your question, my favorite part of Pirates of the Caribbean is two fold. First the decent into yesteryear down the waterfall. A drop fright is always a roller coaster delight. Especially when done in the dark with water splashing.
But an even better effect is when Uncle Walt sends you into the pirate world by "going down the waterfall only Walt Disney could return you to today by going UP the waterfall."
On a parallel universe you should attempt an OFFHAND DISNEY episode telling YOUR version of the PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN tale.
By re-editing the five PotC rides from "D"land, WDW, Disneyland Paris, Tokyo, and Shanghai you should discover the true treasure and offhanded secrets of Jack Sparrow vs. Capt. John LeFeete.
I hate red. Change the auction scene back
Hank Venture: "Brock, if pirates really exist, that means Santa Claus and the tooth fairy can even be real, right? It’s like all bets are off!"
Brock Samson: "Hank, nobody ever said pirates don’t exist."
Hank: "So you agree with me that this is impossible?!"
All kidding aside, Walt was asking because earlier in the episode, when they were talking to Rolly Crump, Julie insisted that she didn't believe in ghosts.
if you're wondering what those dots are after 3:31 it's probably sensor damage from the camera being exposed to something like lasers.
Dang TSA
6th comment 🥳! I have NEVER been this EARLY 😁!
Bring back the auction and get rid of Jack Sparrow and Barbosa= Perfect Pirates i.e. as Walt intended. Mess with the DW version? Ok, but restore the DL version to as it was. Stop ruining the rides.
Miss Disneyland reminds me of Katherine Hepburn. The outfit is weird though. It looks like a horse riding outfit.
FUN fact, when I was a kid, at the beginning of the ride there was a dog that sat outside with the old man in the chair. I do not remember banjo playing during that time. And now there is no dog and a banjo playing. ITS THE DOG.
As far as the “story”, the ride may not exactly have an exact story but there is clearly a timeline. You start in the future when the pirates are dead. Then you go back in time, the pirates arrive in their ship at the port. They kidnap the mayor and steal stuff. They auction off stuff. In the original ride they auction the women, but the women escape and they are chasing them. They proceed to get more drunk. Some end up in jail with the building threatening to burn around them. The last couple in the armory are so drunk they are shooting each other with explosives all around. (In the Disneyland tv special there was actually an explosion!) in other words. Pirating does not end well..
When people mention the old man playing a banjo, they’re probably thinking of the flume ride at Knott’s.
I have a theory that the person inside the cabin playing the banjo is the red head. we see a painting of her in the cave. I think her and the man in the beginning are the only pirates left and keeping some of the treasure. I also think the ride are their memories.
Ooh, that's a fun theory!
Thank you for mentioning the dialogue on the way out of the ride with Blackbeard. Why is it still there
I was on the Pirates in Orlando one time when it broke down. We were removed from the ride, and taken into the Back lot. It was a very interesting experience. The hall I went through was even themed like the ride. I would have thought it would be a black hallway, but it wasnt.
I do get it..... You're doing a good job. Watched Walt forever on Sunday night talking about Disneyland and Pirates and going there and actually seeing it is magic.....always has and always will be. Love eating at the Blue Bayou and then going on the ride...the smell of the water, one is finally there. Walt let us experience the ride as if we were a character in the movie. He was authentic and it strikes me that you are able to capture that. Remember riding People Mover and seeing all of the rides in Tomorrowland all moving at the same time--it was so beautiful and fun and unbelievable. Walt controlled the magic and the story--or what do you think? Asking my age old question. Who was Walt Disney, what is his genius and what is Disneyland, more than just an amusement park?
“We wants the redhead, we wants the redhead”. Yes, the scene needed to be modified but whose idea was it replace the redhead with a chicken???
Idk, but it's kinda funnier.
I wish I could have seen the *original* PotC ride before all the changes took place. 😞
I think the movie is cannon within the ride. The ride came first with the established settings then as the movies happened they used said settings just focussing in one one particular pirate or group of pirates instead of the multiple groups within the ride. In the first movie there is the scene when they first arrive at tortuga, that scene has exact copies of scenes from the village before it burns down. Even though they have different names maybe the locals call it puerto durado but outsiders may refer to it as tortuga.
I hate that Disney took out the Wench auction because if a pirate crew was ransacking a town they would be auctioning off the women
I would like to know more about Julie....yowza.
dude if you had of finished sea of thieves a pirate's life it tells you why jack and Barbosa is in that town. also the skelly captain is in sailors grave in a pirate's life
My favorite parts of the ride are the parts they took out
I died at Dalin saying AYLA for Isla 🤣🤣🤣 great video as usual!
do you guys believe in pirates?
AYE!!!!!!!!!
KAIZOKU OU NI ORE WA NARU!
(I’M GOING TO BE THE PIRATE KING!)
@@NinthShinigami WEEB!!!!!!!!!
I love the way Walt said "And Things" When he said THAT, you KNEW there was gonna be some GREAT THINGS! Walt knew HOW to tell a story, what made it "drag" and where to put the "business" in. If something didn't "advance" the story, it was taken out. I rode DL Pirates when I was 6 yrs. old. It actually opened the year I was born. Yo Ho was what I remembered. But, the whole THING is immersive. Every time you ride it you see something new. The swirling clouds up above near the auction scene. The smell of the smoldering timbers. Yes! Claude IS da MAN! There were a lot of fine scallywags that worked to bring about them thar pirates.
Claude Coats 🙌
More ride lore please, more ride lore!!!
who wants the red head...... me me!!!
Dallin another enjoyable video! What is your feeling about the P of the C overlays that have come, gone and stayed at MK?
9:20
Where you start to lose track
Offhand Disney is my favorite Disney channel. I just rode the haunted mansion at the Magic Kingdom. And I did pirates twice. The Haunted Mansion is my favorite, but the pirates are growing on me as well. Current Disney could never pull the rides off the way they are.
One of mine too but among theme park channels provost park pass and park ride history as well
Ps I THINK but I think Walt liked to flirt ❤
Pirates in Disney World? Oh wow, you are really missing out. The California version is the greatest
get rid of red and sparrow.
In Florida the best part of Pirates of the Caribbean is THE AIRCONDITIONED RIDE...
I love your humor ☺️
In the beginning Walt showed the girl a Pirate ship with a guy walking the plunk. How we did not get that scene, but we have probably would have removed it due to crazy standards that affected some of stuff in the ride we got today (for example: the Auction scene). BTW that's Blackbeard's voice we hear as we go up the lift, who knew (is that a new feature).
They should remove Barbossa and bring back the pirate captain (a.k.a. Blackbeard)
I like the red head.
6th comment 🥳! I have NEVER been this EARLY 😁!
Damn Claude Coates never skipped an arm day in his life. Dude was freakin' hench! Which is weird because John Hench was certainly not.
Seriously though this was a fun video! As an east-coaster I'm jealous that our hastily-constructed Pirates pales so much compared to the original. California get the better Pirates AND the smoother Space Mountain? Such envy I have!
The answer to all these questions lies with only one PIRATE GUY🤨
To answer some of your questions because I am a huge pirates of the caribbean fan
The skeleton with the real skull and crossbones on the headboard is Ponce De Leon and he holds the map of San Miguel (at least in pirates of the caribbean on stranger tides).
Jack is looking for the cursed treasure and Barbosa is looking for jack. You can tell that Jack is looking for the treasure because the pooped pirate says "Here I be- holdin' the treasure map, and the key as well. What I wouldn't give to see the look on Cap'n Jack Sparrow's face when he hears tell 'tis only me what's got the goods," And you can tell that Barbosa is looking for Jack because in the ship battle scene Barbosa says, "Surrender Captain Jack Sparrow or by thunder we'll burn this city to the ground!"
Dillion..great job as usual and whatever is making you ill..get well soon..
I will be in the park Sept6.7.8..maybe see you?
Received my Haunted Mansion Lego set yesterday! Will put it together while playing the Haunted Mansion soundtrack 👻
I dunno, but ever since I went on it 20 years ago, I've wished I ride through it again blaring 'A Pirate Looks at 40' on a portable speaker. LOL! =)
Thanks Dallin! That were some mighty fine spelunkin'. I purticular like the way you were be holdin' yer mic like a flaggon o' rum... Oh aye!
I think that, in the case of the Disneyland version of POTC, the first waterfall is transporting you to the cave, but not back in time. You only go back in time once you pass the cool skeleton to person illusion, and the pirates you are seeing raid the town are the same ones that are now skeletons in the cave. This would explain not only why that one skeleton appears to come alive again, but also why we hear "Dead men tell no tales,": they tell no tales, so we have to go back in time for them to tell it. In Disneyworld, it's pretty much the same, but because we are already in Puerto Dorado, we don't need the magic waterfall. You might be asking, "But aren't we already back in time?" Yes, we are, but we are back in time a bit later than the events in POTC (maybe 25-50 years), so we still need to go back in time to let them tell their tale.
Walt's "do you believe in pirates" may sound weird, but it almost sounds normal compared to Slash's "I don't believe in this AIDS stuff", meaning that he didn't like condoms... of course he was most likely high at the time, so at least he had an excuse. Walt must have been stone cold sober.
my favorite thing aboout MK's pirates of the caribbean is the smell in the town/ auction scene!!! It smells amazing!!!!! and no it's not the water.
5th comment 🥳! I have NEVER been this EARLY 😁!
"Do you believe in pirates of course" is taken a little out of context. I would think Offhand would have watched the whole of the source video. It's from Disneylands 10th anniversary. The context is Walt shows her a model of the haunted mansion and before showing her a demo of peppers ghost he asks her if she believes in ghosts and she says no. After seeing the illusion he reasks and she says yes, now I believe in ghosts. The do you believe in pirates is just a running little gag they have going on.
Matterhorn Productions has the full Disneyland 10th video on their site. It's great!
"You do believe in pirates?" On the D+ series Behind the Attraction for the Haunted Mansion episode, this same actress is asked if she believes in ghosts. So I bet this is from the same episode. Being asked about believing in pirates would be a joke/callback to being asked about believing in ghosts.
HE'S BACK TO PIRATES!!! I've been longing this
Ha. "We love Red" when using the actress instead of the animatronic.
I didn't know that was a character but now I'm happy to know about Red the Pirate.
I really miss these videos! I love all ur vids but I’m happy to see offhand do another video different from Disney news or speculation! Not saying there bad I just miss these og style vids ! Plz do soarin !!!
I hate to break it to you, but the best pirates ride in the world (and imo the best dark ride period) is clearly the one in Disneyland Paris.
There are many reasons for this but the most obvious is the best moment, this ride (or any other) has to offer: Imagine the first big drop in the ride - but here you‘re going directly into the big battle scene. Your heart still pounding from the fall, while the cannons are roaring all around you and the majestic music is playing …
There‘s nothing quite like it in the whole wide world!
Disneyland Pirates of the Caribbean we go down TWO waterfalls and go up a waterfall at the end.....
Disney World Pirates of the Caribbean there is only one small waterfall to go down and at the end of the ride there are steps to walk up..... Disneyland = Better
I just want say is this. I’m grateful that both wdw and Dl are different from each other’s because when you ride both you get some different perspectives.
When I think of original pirates ride I think of Walt not seeing it in finished form :(. Also the dolly rig they fixed up to push him through at viewer level. Think of all he did not see completed in the following years, decades really. If only he could have.
As if I needed more reasons to love this ride ❤️ thanks for another amazing video!
My Unpopular Opinion 😬 I don't like Red. I feel like she was just thrown on there bc of the Me too movement and she makes no sense to me. What is she even doing there?! 🙄
Ever notice how they changed the two pirates at the dunk scene into Captain Hook and Mr. Smee?
Funny thing is Castillo del Moro actually exists! It overlooks the harbor of Havana in Cuba.
I'e kind of just realized that this is the first video about POTC that Dallin didn't obsesses about Jean Lafitte!
I Love the Disneyland version but Shanghai is pretty awesome
I have to some day, see you and say hi to you. It seems like that i never get to do that. I need for you to talk to me about pirates and mansion, because I would like to know more about the story here in california
I think the movies depicted the curse of the ride. The pirates pillaged towns for their treasure, stumbling across aztec gold. The concrete box from the movie that holds the gold, is also seen in the gold room on the ride
Need a new camera? Looks like you have Hot Pixels on your camera. Or you put stars on your video :)
Cant get over that ship battle, definately my favorite scene
You keep talking about the People Mover being closed. Was it closed at both WDL and WDW?
There’s 3 old pirate movies that are connected to this ride . Treasure island, captain blood , black beard ghost . Robert newton as Long John is in the ride somewhere