I've watched a few videos of the DF54, this is by far the clearest and best video to watch by a country mile. Thank you for taking the time to make the video for all of us 🙏🏻
I own the DF64 Gen 2. I set it at 55 for most pourovers and 14 for the average espresso. The DF54 is basically the same build at a 54mm burr size and smaller motor. Simple and effective machines.
What a great review! After that, you don‘t need to watch other YT videos of the DF54. There is all in! Have subscribed and I'm looking forward to seeing the other videos of this channel ! Thanks Liz!👍
My DF54 Grinder + Gaggia turned into a Gaggiuino + K6 Hand grinder for occasional Pour overs = covers High End Coffee in every style without spending a ridiculous fortune. Added in a Picopresso for traveling, and I feel complete.
I am not going to lie. I just ordered this grinder already for my daughter for Christmas. We mostly do pour over and been using a hand grinder, chestnut C2 but I recently purchased a pico Preso in the C2 is not up to the job. I am excited to try this on both the pico Presto and v60. With the C2 I could not develop Crema in the pico Presto hopefully this fixes that but the overall main goal was for my daughter to have an easier workflow for her morning daily driver. Thanks for the video.
That is awesome! There are certainly some limitations when it comes to gear and also some combinations just don't work as well together. Your daughter will love the DF54, I'm sure of it! Merry Christmas to the both of you!
I have had a Niche Zero for 2+ years and have a DF54 for 3 months, in comparison the DF54 is way better value for money if I was to buy only one grinder now I would buy the DF54 in a heartbeat. The workflow is very similar and both make great coffee in slightly different styles
Thank you so much for sharing! I’ve been testing so many grinders lately… a lot of things come and go in my coffee bar, but the DF54 has proven to be the only one that I use every single day since I got it. I love it a little bit more everyday.
Ufff, tough choice. They’re really different though. With Varia’s conical burrs against the DF54’s flat ones! I gotta say the VS3 is so so pretty and more aesthetically pleasing than the DF54! Buuut the DF54 gets the job done, it’s quiet and it’s got near zero retention… Bonus: it’s also a bit less expensive! (at least in Canada) Would love to know what you decide!
I’m waffling between these two as well. On the one hand, I understand the VS3 is (despite being conical) more of a clarity focused grinder in its flavour profiles. Especially with the Hypernova Ultra burrs. But at a $200CAD premium (with the Hypernovas). And the Varia still has a reputation for reliability issues. If I KNEW aftermarket burrs were coming for the ‘54, it would be a no brainer. The Varia IS prettier… Decisions, decisions.
Thanks for watching! Actually, in my experience, there’s no need! I merely passed some coffee through as a general measure to eliminate dust and that metallic taste of new burrs 😂
I own the grinder and love it. I have not seasoned it and noticed that it remains consisitent in grind size. I would say no need to season. Also notable is that it has a smaller engine so seasoning may overheat it. The added benefit of the smaller engine and the slower grind time is that the motor does not heat as much which may affect the grinds. I seriously recommend this grinder for anyone.
Uff, the Timemore Sculptor 078 is a fine, beautiful masterpiece! And since you only drink filter, most likely the best option for you right now! And I must say, I’ve really preferred the DF54 for espresso over anything else! Thank you for watching, I’ll see you around for more ☕️
It's way different class of the machine when comes to power, burrs, taste, grind speed, design. Df54 is fine for beginners to try being a home barista on a budget with some dedica, bambino.
I mostly do V60, aeropress and french press and currently have the q2 heptagonal, it is awesome but I want to make the whole process more convenient. I am deciding between the df54 and fellow ode gen 2...which one of the two would you recommend? (it might be nice to have the option to do espresso in the future). Or are there any other grinders (filter focused) in the 200 - 350€ price range that you would recommend?
Nice review. FYI please have in mind espresso has nothing to do with express - it started as a misspelling by non Italian speaking people. Espresso means "pressed out" and describes the extraction method.
Oh yes! I outgrew my Smart Grinder Pro very fast, especially for espresso. I found that even the finest setting was not as fine as I needed for espresso... So the Smart Grinder Pro I only used for filter until we parted ways.
Thank you so much for subscribing and your super kind words! I admit that I ask myself this question frequently 😆 but I wanna believe that if I keep up the high quality content, the subs will follow 🙌 I hope your coffee is great today and everyday, see you around for more! ☕
I'm just looking at this! One thing I'm torn at is apparently the V2's larger size means aftermarket burr's are more accessible? I'm thinking I go DF54 and then try to leap to a Niche maybe once I want to start experimenting with burrs... man too many choices! Thanks for the video.
I know! Way too many choices in the home grinder space right now! For what it’s worth, the DF54 is a gem for the price. I’d totally start here and if/when you outgrow it, you can go for something else… but I’d give it a shot!
Great review! Have you used the Baratza Encore ESP? If so, how do you think the DF54 compares? Would you recommend one over the other? I am looking to upgrade from my Capresso grinder. I would be looking to do both drip and espresso mostly. I am curious to get your take.
Thanks for your question! I haven't had a chance to use the Baratza Encore ESP yet, but I had the regular Encore. What I found was that filter coffee was delicious but it really couldn't grind fine enough for espresso, which really discouraged me and I ended up changing it pretty fast. I understand that you COULD get decent espresso with the ESP, but not sure that's the best bang for your buck given the current state of the coffee grinder market. Again, since I haven't used it or compared both side by side, my opinion is not firm. I do believe that for the price, the DF54 is a great option if you decide to pull the trigger on this one!
I still think if you can, spend the extra money on the DF64 Gen 2. The existing burrs are good all-rounders but when you are ready to upgrade you just need a burr replacement instead of a whole new grinder. For my personal tastes DF64 + SSP Multipurpose are pretty "end game" for me.
Hello there! Just found your channel :) Great videos! I just ordered this grinder but my only concern is that I've seen some people talking about burr alignment right out of the box.. do you think that's something you should do it ?
Thank you for watching and welcome to my channel! Honestly, the alignment on this unit was spot on 👌🏼 So, in my experience, there’s no need to mess with it (at least with the unit I received there were no issues whatsoever). Grinds were consistent across the board in each method I tried. No need to season it either. I am so curious to take a look at what you’ve seen though! Feel free to email me or message me through Instagram. I’d love to check that out!
Great video. I’m considering this grinder (D54) vs the Niche Zero. What are the key differences? I plan to use it for espresso and filter. I know there’s big price difference, but I’m just trying to weigh up the pros and cons against the price. Any help would much appreciated!
Truth is, those two grinders can’t be compared side by side necessarily. Aside from the big price difference, it’s conical vs flat burrs, 63mm vs 54mm… and at the end of the day, these differences will influence taste. If you could afford any of those, maybe it’d be a bit more fair to compare against the DF64?
I have both grinders and really the big difference is in body and clarity, the Niche produces thicker body as it has more fines for espresso and the DF54 is thinner in body, for pourover I notice again more body in the Niche output but much more clarity in the DF54 cup. I would say that if you like lots of brightness and acidity go for the DF54 if you prefer more balance and body but less clarity then the Niche is for you. The workflow ispretty much the same bar the bellows but Iuse the bellows to clear chaff after I take the coffee, the DF54 is definitely more a "zero" retention even without using the bellows it retains less than 0.2g every time (less than 1 bean). For the price the DF54 is a no brainer choice.
It really depends on your intended use! If you're planning to use it for espresso only, I'd go with the Eureka Mignon Zero. If you also want to do filter and other brewing methods, the versatility of the DF54 would most likely be a better fit!
Great video. Really irritating “music”. I have audio processing disorder, and I could barely hear what you were saying. I missed maybe half of it because the music is overpowering to me.
There are grinders for that! This is designed as a single dose grinder, so it’s surely not the one for you. You can check the X54, or the Breville Smart Pro on a lower budget, as well as the Barazza. Those employ a hopper to hold bigger amounts of beans and can grind as much as you want on a single round!
@lizhappybeans I have a moccamaster brewer. Their grinder is hilariously bad. I'm looking for one that does excellent drip but french press and maybe moka pot if I get crazy hah
Nice review. Very useful for me who hasn't decided my first "decent" grinder. Still considering between DF54, DF64 gen 2 or even Baratza Encore ESP. Any suggestion from you? 😊
Well, that’s a tough comparison because they’re at different price points and meant for different purposes. If you can afford the DF64 gen 2, go for it! It may be the strongest option of the three. If you’re looking for an affordable grinder with great performance, go for the DF54 instead. The Baratza Encore ESP is a great grinder, but I’d only choose it if not planning to use it for espresso. Otherwise, I’d take this one out of the picture. Hope this helps! 🙏🏼
@@lizhappybeans Agreed! For me who just an ordinary coffee lover, maybe DF54 is the best option. How long have you been used the DF54? Is there any concerns regarding reliability, maintenance or any other things to consider? Many thanks 🙏
I appreciate the review, though is it really necessary to mention the grind time? Seems like something necessary to mention if it's used in a commercial/professional environment.
You’re right! And it’s a great point why the speed of this grinder is just not relevant for the target buyer. But I had to test it out and mention it as it comes up frequently, and some people do care about it even if it’s for home use.
True that. I have this grinder being shipped to me now. But as far as grind time goes I'm down with whatever although my wife needs the process to go quickly. As it is even a 1 minute grind doesn't matter what is needed is the espresso machine to be quick. The breville barista pro is one we had for a while 3+ years now I just ordered the Bambino plus. No problem for time with these.
I mean Eureka Mignon Manuale is like 60€ cheaper, 50mm vs 54mm, Eureka has 1 year longer warranty and proven to be reliable. DF54 has no merit to its name yet. Also they are sold out/pre order and their webstore looks like from 2004 and 46€ shipping. 22% of the cost is shipping
@@lizhappybeans it's not about my needs it's about value per dollar. If you claim something is best for 300 you need to take everything in to account including warranty and reliability
Hi! My apologies but in any way I claimed that the DF was the best. I ask a question, and present my findings and opinions for the viewer to determine. I assign a score that’s totally based on my experience and recommendation to this grinder, as I found it to be a great option for beginners. I do agree that reliability and warranty are two important factors for many to buy a grinder. But it also depends on where you buy the tool, at least on this side of the world, as we don’t buy it directly from the manufacturer. A 100yo brand like Eureka will always have the prestige that a brand like Turin hasn’t earned, but I stand by my opinion that this is a great option and you’re getting a good tool for the cost. And again, this all depends on where you’re located. It was harder for me to get my Eureka Mignon in Canada, and it was more expensive than the DF54. Maybe in the future I’ll make a comparison if that’s what my audience wants to see. 🫶
@@DuBstep115 df54 is almost £100 cheaper in the UK than the Eureka. Also it's considered to be more for espresso than all rounder. Just so you have a perspective which calms you down a bit...
cheap ass grinder with very small burrs, invest in a high quality grinder that will last, be nice to use, and get you better results. look at niche, option-o, etc.
It is hardly a "cheap ass grinder" as you say. I have a DF64 Gen 2 and it is basically a larger version of the DF54. The machines are built like a tank and get the job done.
Finding a used Zero for this price might be difficult but possible, but the 1zpresso? I think it’ll be pretty hard to convince someone to pay practically the same amount for a manual grinder with even smaller burrs. I would love to compare them tho! Thanks!
I've watched a few videos of the DF54, this is by far the clearest and best video to watch by a country mile. Thank you for taking the time to make the video for all of us 🙏🏻
Thank you so much for watching! Hope to see you around for more!
I own the DF64 Gen 2. I set it at 55 for most pourovers and 14 for the average espresso. The DF54 is basically the same build at a 54mm burr size and smaller motor. Simple and effective machines.
Can’t agree more!
If you are thinking about buying the DF54 this is THE best video on youtube. Clear and concise explanations all around. Well done video.
Wow! Thank you so much! I’m glad it was helpful 🙏🏼
@@lizhappybeans I subscribed and will watch all other videos you made. Super informational. Good job!
Thank you for this. I usually drink espresso or cafetière, but I’ve been wondering about Turkish coffee.
Glad it was helpful
Love your attitude and attention to detail. You are also very clear and distinct. Thanks.
Thank you so much for your positive feedback! I hope to see you around for more ☕️
What a great review! After that, you don‘t need to watch other YT videos of the DF54. There is all in! Have subscribed and I'm looking forward to seeing the other videos of this channel ! Thanks Liz!👍
Thank you so much for your support! I really appreciate it 🫶🏼💛
My DF54 Grinder + Gaggia turned into a Gaggiuino + K6 Hand grinder for occasional Pour overs = covers High End Coffee in every style without spending a ridiculous fortune. Added in a Picopresso for traveling, and I feel complete.
That is an AMAZING setup at a low budget with high end results. Thanks for sharing!!!
Very good Liz. Nice review. And informative. ❤
Thank you!
I am not going to lie. I just ordered this grinder already for my daughter for Christmas. We mostly do pour over and been using a hand grinder, chestnut C2 but I recently purchased a pico Preso in the C2 is not up to the job. I am excited to try this on both the pico Presto and v60. With the C2 I could not develop Crema in the pico Presto hopefully this fixes that but the overall main goal was for my daughter to have an easier workflow for her morning daily driver. Thanks for the video.
That is awesome! There are certainly some limitations when it comes to gear and also some combinations just don't work as well together. Your daughter will love the DF54, I'm sure of it! Merry Christmas to the both of you!
Great video, really clear review. I'll be getting one of these. Thanks!
Fantastic! I hope you love it as much as I did!
I have had a Niche Zero for 2+ years and have a DF54 for 3 months, in comparison the DF54 is way better value for money if I was to buy only one grinder now I would buy the DF54 in a heartbeat. The workflow is very similar and both make great coffee in slightly different styles
Thank you so much for sharing!
I’ve been testing so many grinders lately… a lot of things come and go in my coffee bar, but the DF54 has proven to be the only one that I use every single day since I got it. I love it a little bit more everyday.
I love your review. Very well created. (sorry about my English, i'm brazilian)
Thank you! ☺️
Realpy great content thank you so much... i am tossing up between this and the Varia vs3 but keep coming back to this one...
Ufff, tough choice. They’re really different though. With Varia’s conical burrs against the DF54’s flat ones! I gotta say the VS3 is so so pretty and more aesthetically pleasing than the DF54! Buuut the DF54 gets the job done, it’s quiet and it’s got near zero retention… Bonus: it’s also a bit less expensive! (at least in Canada)
Would love to know what you decide!
I’m waffling between these two as well. On the one hand, I understand the VS3 is (despite being conical) more of a clarity focused grinder in its flavour profiles. Especially with the Hypernova Ultra burrs. But at a $200CAD premium (with the Hypernovas). And the Varia still has a reputation for reliability issues. If I KNEW aftermarket burrs were coming for the ‘54, it would be a no brainer. The Varia IS prettier…
Decisions, decisions.
@@coreycannon4511 aftermarket burrs ARE available for the df54 now. : D
Excellent video informative 👌
Thank you! ☺️
Your content is so good! Thank you.
Thank you! ☺️☕️
Great video!
Hey, thank you for the video. I'm still wondering, if I should buy this one or Encore ESP, because I only drink espresso. Any thoughts?
It’s seems like such a cool grinder! Do you think it needs to be seasoned? Great video like always 😎👍🏽
Thanks for watching! Actually, in my experience, there’s no need! I merely passed some coffee through as a general measure to eliminate dust and that metallic taste of new burrs 😂
@@lizhappybeans Nice 👍🏽😂
I own the grinder and love it. I have not seasoned it and noticed that it remains consisitent in grind size. I would say no need to season. Also notable is that it has a smaller engine so seasoning may overheat it. The added benefit of the smaller engine and the slower grind time is that the motor does not heat as much which may affect the grinds. I seriously recommend this grinder for anyone.
@surfacepro5519 thank you for the super valuable input! I also didn’t notice significant variance in grind sizes, the performance is amazing!
Another great review, If I didn't already have a Sculptor 078 (I only drink filter) I might consider this grinder, especially on a budget.
Uff, the Timemore Sculptor 078 is a fine, beautiful masterpiece! And since you only drink filter, most likely the best option for you right now!
And I must say, I’ve really preferred the DF54 for espresso over anything else!
Thank you for watching, I’ll see you around for more ☕️
It's way different class of the machine when comes to power, burrs, taste, grind speed, design. Df54 is fine for beginners to try being a home barista on a budget with some dedica, bambino.
Great review !!👍
Thanks for watching! ☺️
Fantastic review!
Thank you! Cheers!
I mostly do V60, aeropress and french press and currently have the q2 heptagonal, it is awesome but I want to make the whole process more convenient. I am deciding between the df54 and fellow ode gen 2...which one of the two would you recommend? (it might be nice to have the option to do espresso in the future). Or are there any other grinders (filter focused) in the 200 - 350€ price range that you would recommend?
I think you just sold me this thing!
Hahaha well, I can only say it’s worth it and currently running a sale if you click the link in my description!
Nice review. FYI please have in mind espresso has nothing to do with express - it started as a misspelling by non Italian speaking people. Espresso means "pressed out" and describes the extraction method.
Thank you 🙏🏼
Would you prefer to use this along with the Sage Dual Boiler machine, in place of the smart grinder pro?
Oh yes! I outgrew my Smart Grinder Pro very fast, especially for espresso. I found that even the finest setting was not as fine as I needed for espresso... So the Smart Grinder Pro I only used for filter until we parted ways.
How do you not have more subscribers? (I just did)
Your content is very high quality! And up there with much bigger channels.
Thank you so much for subscribing and your super kind words!
I admit that I ask myself this question frequently 😆 but I wanna believe that if I keep up the high quality content, the subs will follow 🙌
I hope your coffee is great today and everyday, see you around for more! ☕
I'm just looking at this! One thing I'm torn at is apparently the V2's larger size means aftermarket burr's are more accessible? I'm thinking I go DF54 and then try to leap to a Niche maybe once I want to start experimenting with burrs... man too many choices! Thanks for the video.
I know! Way too many choices in the home grinder space right now!
For what it’s worth, the DF54 is a gem for the price. I’d totally start here and if/when you outgrow it, you can go for something else… but I’d give it a shot!
Great review! Have you used the Baratza Encore ESP? If so, how do you think the DF54 compares? Would you recommend one over the other? I am looking to upgrade from my Capresso grinder. I would be looking to do both drip and espresso mostly. I am curious to get your take.
Thanks for your question! I haven't had a chance to use the Baratza Encore ESP yet, but I had the regular Encore. What I found was that filter coffee was delicious but it really couldn't grind fine enough for espresso, which really discouraged me and I ended up changing it pretty fast. I understand that you COULD get decent espresso with the ESP, but not sure that's the best bang for your buck given the current state of the coffee grinder market. Again, since I haven't used it or compared both side by side, my opinion is not firm. I do believe that for the price, the DF54 is a great option if you decide to pull the trigger on this one!
Amazing video.
I still think if you can, spend the extra money on the DF64 Gen 2. The existing burrs are good all-rounders but when you are ready to upgrade you just need a burr replacement instead of a whole new grinder. For my personal tastes DF64 + SSP Multipurpose are pretty "end game" for me.
Amazing input, thanks for sharing!
Called for the DF64 Gen2 with SSP Red speed would pair it with a ProfitecGo or Marax ..
@@dineshnadar5214 which ones? Red Speed options are available across all 3 burr designs: Multipurpose, High Uniformity and Cast (Lab Sweet).
Hello there! Just found your channel :) Great videos! I just ordered this grinder but my only concern is that I've seen some people talking about burr alignment right out of the box.. do you think that's something you should do it ?
Thank you for watching and welcome to my channel!
Honestly, the alignment on this unit was spot on 👌🏼 So, in my experience, there’s no need to mess with it (at least with the unit I received there were no issues whatsoever). Grinds were consistent across the board in each method I tried. No need to season it either. I am so curious to take a look at what you’ve seen though! Feel free to email me or message me through Instagram. I’d love to check that out!
great video. thanks!
Thank you for watching!
Great video. I’m considering this grinder (D54) vs the Niche Zero. What are the key differences? I plan to use it for espresso and filter. I know there’s big price difference, but I’m just trying to weigh up the pros and cons against the price. Any help would much appreciated!
Truth is, those two grinders can’t be compared side by side necessarily.
Aside from the big price difference, it’s conical vs flat burrs, 63mm vs 54mm… and at the end of the day, these differences will influence taste.
If you could afford any of those, maybe it’d be a bit more fair to compare against the DF64?
@@lizhappybeans ah that’s fair. What would the key differences in taste be between the DF64 and the Niche Zero? I’m a bit of a novice
I have both grinders and really the big difference is in body and clarity, the Niche produces thicker body as it has more fines for espresso and the DF54 is thinner in body, for pourover I notice again more body in the Niche output but much more clarity in the DF54 cup. I would say that if you like lots of brightness and acidity go for the DF54 if you prefer more balance and body but less clarity then the Niche is for you. The workflow ispretty much the same bar the bellows but Iuse the bellows to clear chaff after I take the coffee, the DF54 is definitely more a "zero" retention even without using the bellows it retains less than 0.2g every time (less than 1 bean). For the price the DF54 is a no brainer choice.
@@Thetache massively helpful, thanks 🙏🏻
Hi DF54 does not offer replacement burr, and they state you should replace them once a year
Thank you for sharing this piece of info!
I own the DF54 and my grinder is set at 35 is this normal,my zero point was at plus 4,only drinking latte
Sounds like a pretty high number for espresso.. are you using a very dark roast?
No, medium roast
Is this better than the Eureka Mignon Zero? Thanks
It really depends on your intended use! If you're planning to use it for espresso only, I'd go with the Eureka Mignon Zero. If you also want to do filter and other brewing methods, the versatility of the DF54 would most likely be a better fit!
Great video.
Really irritating “music”. I have audio processing disorder, and I could barely hear what you were saying. I missed maybe half of it because the music is overpowering to me.
Thank you so much for your feedback! I’m very sorry this was your experience, will keep it in mind for future videos!
Why dont make batch drip brew grinders. I grind 80g ever morning. I dont need something that can only grind 15g
There are grinders for that! This is designed as a single dose grinder, so it’s surely not the one for you. You can check the X54, or the Breville Smart Pro on a lower budget, as well as the Barazza. Those employ a hopper to hold bigger amounts of beans and can grind as much as you want on a single round!
@lizhappybeans seems like you have to get a cheap grinder to do drip coffee then?
Not at all, there are grinders for drip at all budgets the same as for espresso or single dose.
@lizhappybeans I have a moccamaster brewer. Their grinder is hilariously bad. I'm looking for one that does excellent drip but french press and maybe moka pot if I get crazy hah
Get a baratza encore. It's a little loud, but it gets the job done, and well. It's hopper is big enough for your drop needs as well.
Nice review. Very useful for me who hasn't decided my first "decent" grinder. Still considering between DF54, DF64 gen 2 or even Baratza Encore ESP. Any suggestion from you? 😊
Well, that’s a tough comparison because they’re at different price points and meant for different purposes.
If you can afford the DF64 gen 2, go for it! It may be the strongest option of the three.
If you’re looking for an affordable grinder with great performance, go for the DF54 instead.
The Baratza Encore ESP is a great grinder, but I’d only choose it if not planning to use it for espresso. Otherwise, I’d take this one out of the picture.
Hope this helps! 🙏🏼
@@lizhappybeans Agreed! For me who just an ordinary coffee lover, maybe DF54 is the best option. How long have you been used the DF54? Is there any concerns regarding reliability, maintenance or any other things to consider? Many thanks 🙏
The sunday review
No medium roast
I appreciate the review, though is it really necessary to mention the grind time? Seems like something necessary to mention if it's used in a commercial/professional environment.
You’re right! And it’s a great point why the speed of this grinder is just not relevant for the target buyer. But I had to test it out and mention it as it comes up frequently, and some people do care about it even if it’s for home use.
True that. I have this grinder being shipped to me now. But as far as grind time goes I'm down with whatever although my wife needs the process to go quickly. As it is even a 1 minute grind doesn't matter what is needed is the espresso machine to be quick. The breville barista pro is one we had for a while 3+ years now I just ordered the Bambino plus. No problem for time with these.
I mean Eureka Mignon Manuale is like 60€ cheaper, 50mm vs 54mm, Eureka has 1 year longer warranty and proven to be reliable.
DF54 has no merit to its name yet. Also they are sold out/pre order and their webstore looks like from 2004 and 46€ shipping. 22% of the cost is shipping
If Eureka fits your needs better, absolutely go for it! Shipping costs will certainly vary depending on your location. Cheers!
@@lizhappybeans it's not about my needs it's about value per dollar.
If you claim something is best for 300 you need to take everything in to account including warranty and reliability
Hi! My apologies but in any way I claimed that the DF was the best. I ask a question, and present my findings and opinions for the viewer to determine. I assign a score that’s totally based on my experience and recommendation to this grinder, as I found it to be a great option for beginners.
I do agree that reliability and warranty are two important factors for many to buy a grinder. But it also depends on where you buy the tool, at least on this side of the world, as we don’t buy it directly from the manufacturer. A 100yo brand like Eureka will always have the prestige that a brand like Turin hasn’t earned, but I stand by my opinion that this is a great option and you’re getting a good tool for the cost.
And again, this all depends on where you’re located. It was harder for me to get my Eureka Mignon in Canada, and it was more expensive than the DF54.
Maybe in the future I’ll make a comparison if that’s what my audience wants to see. 🫶
@@DuBstep115 df54 is almost £100 cheaper in the UK than the Eureka. Also it's considered to be more for espresso than all rounder. Just so you have a perspective which calms you down a bit...
@@jambononi Eureka manuale is now 181£ and sometimes dips to 160£ propably on blackfriday. So no, its not " almost £100 cheaper"
cheap ass grinder with very small burrs, invest in a high quality grinder that will last, be nice to use, and get you better results. look at niche, option-o, etc.
Thanks for taking the time to comment! What would you recommend for someone who can’t afford a 500-1000+ grinder? 🤔🙏
@@lizhappybeans 1zpresso J-Ultra or used Niche Zero
Exactly.
It is hardly a "cheap ass grinder" as you say. I have a DF64 Gen 2 and it is basically a larger version of the DF54. The machines are built like a tank and get the job done.
Finding a used Zero for this price might be difficult but possible, but the 1zpresso? I think it’ll be pretty hard to convince someone to pay practically the same amount for a manual grinder with even smaller burrs. I would love to compare them tho! Thanks!