As someone who has owned an ESP about since it came out, I have to say that it has served me well, but it is imperfect. I have to tighten the thumbscrew that holds the burr down after about every two 340 gram bags of coffee. Also, coffee does build up in the grinder after about a week and will come out at random when preparing for a shot. I have found that using the single dose hopper as a bellows keeps this cleaned out. Also, a small thing but the plastic lever you use to turn it on works its way out of place a few times a month and has to be reseated. Other notes: Mine didn't grind fine enough for some coffees out of the box but after a few bags of coffee I found that it started grinding finer and finer. Also, if you find that your shots seem to be getting faster for no reason, check the thumbscrew as it may need tightened down. As I alluded to before. The espresso quality is fine and overall, I can't complain. I went from hand grinding (various grinders from timemore, 1zpresso and Kingrinder) and honestly, my limited palate can't tell the difference unless I am pulling side by side shots and blind I'd still have a hard time guessing. That may well not be true for others, but it is for me. And it is just so much less of a hassle to use to pull three shots back-to-back. I will say that this pairs well with the numerous budget machines out there from De'Longhi or a Bambino(Plus). I wouldn't buy it to replace a built-in but maybe to supplement if you have more than one coffee that you like to consume on the regular. Me, I am considering the DF54 as I like the way it is built, think it would have improved workflow for me and it just looks better. That said, from a practicality standpoint I might be better off with something that is hopper fed and timed dosing. I normally pull 3 shots in a row. Anyway, I don't think either is a bad choice for the person they appeal to. Just thought I'd share my experience. As always, thank you for the informative video.
I have had the encore esp for a few months now and I clean it bi weekly. I’ve also noticed recently my shots have been pulling faster. What is the thumb screw and how do you go about tightening it? Can’t find much info about it online
@@mohamedlala3394 I believe that Baratza calls it a quick release knob. If you take off the hopper you will see it. Or just look up "Encore ESP Cleaning and Maintenance" and there is a video by Baratza where you can easily see how to get access to it.
I have had the DF54 for almost two months of daily use and I love it. Yes I have had a two clogs but they were really my fault - one was just too much coffee at once without cleaning anything or using bellows, one was trying to discharge directly into my french press at a bad angle. Yes I have had some static chaff spray on occasion - again really my fault for using older dry beans and/or not cleaning out the chute. A little maintenance goes a long way with it but now that I keep up with that it is working like a champ! I use vastly different grind settings each time and get a great result every time.
Remove the static prongs. They are worthless. By removing the second declumper amd cutting open the other so the exit chute is wide open, coffee grinda out faster and cleaner. No more brushing. 3 spritz of rdt keeps everything tidy on top
Df54 is an amazing value but with a few caveats. I took the metal prongs out and hot glued the small prong holes and the prongs itself. No discharge electrical problems. idc what the manufacturer says those prongs always builds fines on it. Their purpose is worthless. I also removed one of the declunpers and cut out the other one. Instead of that weird 3 sided slot square i cut it out as a full opening. Grinds come out faster and no needed for BS brushing up the chute. Df54 dosing cup sucks so def use a different one. Also stock burrs have good clarity. If you slow feed the beans you get much less fines. No need to pay for the higher priced df64 and 100s more for ssp burrs. We dont see folks being humble and honest with themselves. We truly dont need to spend so much on the gear. You can gain alot without being persuaded by the lastest toys Df54 at $200 is a steal
I’ve had the Encore esp for 6 months it’s a very good grinder I use it for espresso and drip.I agree with your review it’s loud and I wish it didn’t have as much retention and plastic .But for around 199 US dollars I couldn’t pass it up in the future I’ll upgrade
Asser, just catching this vid now. If people are complaining about the DF54 (or DF64, or any grinder equipped with an ionizer) not reducing static, ask them if they RDT the beans before adding. Spritzing beans that go into an ionizer-equipped grinder will gum up the probes within a few uses, rendering it inert, and ineffective (until it is completely cleaned). I've had this conversation with three different grinder manufacturers who have plasma coils / ionizers, and this is a real problem. User-created error, blamed on the machine. ;)
Yea dude for real, I feel that. Too bad too many of us don’t listen and go through a progressive gear acquisition phase lol Fomo is real tho and it’s frustrating lol
I had a baratza years ago and after the plastic motor mount cracked (as in the body/frame itself) I went to a Breville/Sage Smart grinder Pro and I found it superior in almost every way, the baratza was more noisey and very messy if you considered that both provided good grind quality etc. I now have a DF54 and thus far I am liking it and it is just more solidly built. Time will tell if this means longevity...Thanks for your insights on these models.
I have had the EXACT same experience, 3 baratzas, all broke down many times for diff reasons. Traded all for a Breville and NEVER had and issue. 5 years so far.
There's not many comparisons between the DF54 and the Smart Grinder Pro. What's your experience now 2 months later, was it worth the change? Because it's a lot of money to upgrade.
Hi. Decibels, more specifically change in db values from one measurement to another, is tricky to understand. The decibel scale is logarithmic, not linear, so differences in readings are not straightforward to compare. An increase in 3 db is a doubling of the sound pressure/energy/intensity which is NOT equivalent to the loudness difference we actually perceive. An increase of ~10 dB is required before the sound subjectively appears to be twice as loud to our ear. The difference you measured was 6 db (92db - 86db). While not a 2x difference in perceived sound, a 6db difference is not insignificant. Add to this the sound quality difference that you observed, the DF54 seems to be categorically better.
I e used Baratza grinders for many years. Tnhey ste reasonabbly priced and perform well until allthat plastic breaks. I had to recently order a burr holder and the adjustmt ring. Good communication from customer service but parts are not in stock for my Virtuoso+. The mostly medal df54 looks like a better option especially for espresso. Thanks for your in depth review.
How would you compare the K Ultra to the DF54? I definitely prefer manual grinders, but they end up being the same price where I live, and was thinking if taste is comparable, might just be better to go electric, especially for espresso
Aside from review on grinders, I like the fact that you are using Hario's immersion drippers for brewing, which is a nice move forward as all other drip (pour over) methods are outdated in my opinion.
Great comparison! Good job! I feel that interesting and valid points were brought up for both grinders. If you were to compare the tasting notes for espresso that you get from the DF54 vs the 1zpresso j-ultra. Which would you prefer? Thank you!
@@coffeechronicler Thank you so much for the reply. I really do appreciate the videos that you put out. They have been helpful for me, and I feel to others like me as well learning about coffee and coffee related gear. Keep up the good work.
What is the best budget espresso grinder and higher end grinder? If trying to grind lighter beans as well for espresso. For ease of use and kind of new to the espresso game
I got a Eureka Chrono, the new one has the same burr as the Filtro, very little fines, tho the adjustment is bit annoying. This looks like a good buy too
@@coffeechronicler Your old review helped me buy it, yours is the only detailed review I can find. Very happy with it, the dial is painful but I use it with Moccamaster so once dialed in it’s gonna stay there most of the time
GUYS! Just buy : 1zpresso Z-ultra for everything OR Timemore S3 for the best Filter Coffee OR 1zpresso J-ultra for the best Espresso 30 sec - 1 min of hand grinding in relatively silence... it's not fast enough for you ? This hand grinders also do the better job than any auto-grinder < 500$
Have C40, 1Z Z, but sometimes I just want a quick coffee so I use my electric grinder. For espresso dialing in with manual is just pain, even worse you have to pull multiple shot
Df54 serms good for espresso but people, me included, are reporting clogging at courser grind sizes. Everyone says to just clean the chute all the time but this being sold as a zero retention grinder. Clogging is retention. So if it clogs and needs cleaning it's not zero retention. And when it clogs and the ionizer dorsnt work, the amount of static is insane.
Remove the prongs. They are physically collecting fines and building up a wall of coffee that clogs the chute. 2-3 rdt spray help. Also use onely 1 chute and clip it out so the whole exit chute is open. Grinds faster and no clogs
@@DH-bf9xb well for 200-230 it really is a bargain. Most ppl dont mod pr go om etsy for 3rd party hacks. I used what was available to me and some logic.all DF grinders have flawed declumpers. Absolutely nonreason why they needed 2 of them stacked on top of one another. Secondly prongs are a gimmick. So buy the grinder and complete 2 very easy hacks and wwwwaahhh-lahhh , better grinder. Most companies have retarded R&D workers. Gaggia for example. Used a teflon coating for their boiler. Youre telling me gaggia never knew about the flaking issue? They sure as hell did. But it cost so much in productiom, they shipped it out to whole latte love anyways. But smart consumers mad enough complaints gaggia had a recall. Old fart companies dont care about pride. Its the greedy dollar
@@DH-bf9xb Honestly I have had a DF54 for 3 months now and not had one clog, the retention really is 0.1g. The prongs do stop working very quickly for static but I now just use an artists paintbrush up the chute after every 2 or 3 grinds and it is all good again no fixing required. I roast my own beans to light medium or medium for reference. In all honesty I think the DF54 is fantastic for the price and rate it as good as my Niche Zero that I have used for 3 years.
I’m torn between the DF54 and Encore ESP. I’ll be using the grinder for drip coffee with a Technivorm Moccamaster daily, and pulling an espresso shot several times a week with a ROK EspressoGC. I lean towards medium to dark roast for drip coffee, and medium to light body for espresso. Do you think the DF54 is overkill for my set up and preferences ? I like the overall build of the DF54, but I’m wondering if it is just gonna over complicate things and using the Encore ESP will make the workflows easier.
My review is mainly focused on a modern single-dose workflow. If you grind bigger batches (+35 g) you might like the hopper and bigger catch cup of the Encore ESP. However, if you're mainly grinding single doses I think they're pretty equal in terms of UX.
I’m torn - leaning towards the D54 but I have a gift certificate at a store that only sells the Baratza, which would bring it down to $100 vs $225 for the D54. Is there enough of a difference to justify that price differential? Just getting started with a basic espresso machine and I prefer medium dark roasts, so no need for anything super fancy. I’m wondering if grinding before every shot might start to feel like a chore. Cleaning frequently seems like a big issue too. Decisions …decisions….
Encore ESP is a good grinder. So if you're not super fancy, then it might be the right choice. However, if you're only going to use it for espresso, I'd opt for a Baratza Sette 30 instead.
@@coffeechroniclerthanks for the reply. The store the gift card is for only has the esp and virtuoso+, along with Breville and a few other “appliance” brands. I ended up ordering the ESP ( tho aesthetically I preferred the DF64) largely due to difficulty disassembling the latter. I decided since I’m still learning, spending modestly now ($110 out of pocket after gift and coupon) and knowing I’ll most likely spring for a better espresso machine and an upgraded grinder in the future, it seemed like a reasonable choice. I can always use the ESP for moka pot, pour over, etc if/when I spring for (maybe a gen2) DF. I’m impressed by the build, doubtful about their service and support, and a little squeamish about disassembling it for a full burr cleaning. I may get the add on aftermarket bellows for the ESP, which might help minimize retention. i usually pull 3-4 shots per morning, so for now, at least, a hopper style will likely be more convenient. Really enjoying your videos - thanks for the detailed analysis and feedback!
Hej Asser! Hvor ville du købe en D54 i Danmark? MiiCoffee og Turin er kun til Amerikanske kunder, og ellers er det at købe direkte fra Kina som er mindre optimalt.
It's annoying that this should be titled "best ELECTRIC grinder under $250". It's very frustrating that "grinder" seems synonymous with "electronic grinder". (I appreciate that you have done a number of hand grinders, but compare a $250 hand grinder to either of these electric grinders and what do you get?)
The Encore ESP keeps suffering creep during months. You have to put washers and more washers and it doesn't reach a steady state. It also leakes ground coffee on the walls. Too much plastic for a grinder. Not recomended at all.
As someone who has owned an ESP about since it came out, I have to say that it has served me well, but it is imperfect. I have to tighten the thumbscrew that holds the burr down after about every two 340 gram bags of coffee. Also, coffee does build up in the grinder after about a week and will come out at random when preparing for a shot. I have found that using the single dose hopper as a bellows keeps this cleaned out. Also, a small thing but the plastic lever you use to turn it on works its way out of place a few times a month and has to be reseated.
Other notes: Mine didn't grind fine enough for some coffees out of the box but after a few bags of coffee I found that it started grinding finer and finer. Also, if you find that your shots seem to be getting faster for no reason, check the thumbscrew as it may need tightened down. As I alluded to before.
The espresso quality is fine and overall, I can't complain. I went from hand grinding (various grinders from timemore, 1zpresso and Kingrinder) and honestly, my limited palate can't tell the difference unless I am pulling side by side shots and blind I'd still have a hard time guessing. That may well not be true for others, but it is for me. And it is just so much less of a hassle to use to pull three shots back-to-back.
I will say that this pairs well with the numerous budget machines out there from De'Longhi or a Bambino(Plus). I wouldn't buy it to replace a built-in but maybe to supplement if you have more than one coffee that you like to consume on the regular.
Me, I am considering the DF54 as I like the way it is built, think it would have improved workflow for me and it just looks better. That said, from a practicality standpoint I might be better off with something that is hopper fed and timed dosing. I normally pull 3 shots in a row.
Anyway, I don't think either is a bad choice for the person they appeal to. Just thought I'd share my experience.
As always, thank you for the informative video.
I have had the encore esp for a few months now and I clean it bi weekly. I’ve also noticed recently my shots have been pulling faster.
What is the thumb screw and how do you go about tightening it? Can’t find much info about it online
@@mohamedlala3394 I believe that Baratza calls it a quick release knob. If you take off the hopper you will see it. Or just look up "Encore ESP Cleaning and Maintenance" and there is a video by Baratza where you can easily see how to get access to it.
I have had the DF54 for almost two months of daily use and I love it. Yes I have had a two clogs but they were really my fault - one was just too much coffee at once without cleaning anything or using bellows, one was trying to discharge directly into my french press at a bad angle. Yes I have had some static chaff spray on occasion - again really my fault for using older dry beans and/or not cleaning out the chute. A little maintenance goes a long way with it but now that I keep up with that it is working like a champ! I use vastly different grind settings each time and get a great result every time.
That's good to hear! Clogging shouldn't be a concern with a regular use. A bit of RDT also goes a long way for any chaff issue.
Remove the static prongs. They are worthless. By removing the second declumper amd cutting open the other so the exit chute is wide open, coffee grinda out faster and cleaner. No more brushing. 3 spritz of rdt keeps everything tidy on top
Df54 is an amazing value but with a few caveats. I took the metal prongs out and hot glued the small prong holes and the prongs itself. No discharge electrical problems. idc what the manufacturer says those prongs always builds fines on it. Their purpose is worthless. I also removed one of the declunpers and cut out the other one. Instead of that weird 3 sided slot square i cut it out as a full opening. Grinds come out faster and no needed for BS brushing up the chute.
Df54 dosing cup sucks so def use a different one.
Also stock burrs have good clarity. If you slow feed the beans you get much less fines.
No need to pay for the higher priced df64 and 100s more for ssp burrs.
We dont see folks being humble and honest with themselves. We truly dont need to spend so much on the gear. You can gain alot without being persuaded by the lastest toys
Df54 at $200 is a steal
Dude the inside of your grinder is put together with spit
What does that have to do with the pice of tea in China
I’ve had the Encore esp for 6
months it’s a very good grinder I use it for espresso and drip.I agree with your review it’s loud and I wish it didn’t have as much retention and plastic .But for around 199 US dollars I couldn’t pass it up in the future I’ll upgrade
Great comparison, I have the DF54 for 2 months now, mainly for Espresso and I'm in love with the flavor profile, size and ease of use and cleaning.
The Opus is also a good option if you like faffing around.
8:15 So these are the "dangerous plastic burrs" that Hance Ledrick was talking about.
Asser, just catching this vid now. If people are complaining about the DF54 (or DF64, or any grinder equipped with an ionizer) not reducing static, ask them if they RDT the beans before adding. Spritzing beans that go into an ionizer-equipped grinder will gum up the probes within a few uses, rendering it inert, and ineffective (until it is completely cleaned). I've had this conversation with three different grinder manufacturers who have plasma coils / ionizers, and this is a real problem. User-created error, blamed on the machine. ;)
Oh, good to know! That explains a lot of grief. Thanks for the explanation, Mark! Sharing this on my community tab as well.
Wisdom to my younger self… get the 1zpresso Z-ultra hand grinder instead of the Encore.
Yea dude for real, I feel that. Too bad too many of us don’t listen and go through a progressive gear acquisition phase lol Fomo is real tho and it’s frustrating lol
Z ultra ?
I absolutely don't recommend hand grinding for espresso though! It's extremely tedious. Great choice for filter though
@@berkayersoyThey probably meant the K-Ultra which also costs $250.
I bought a ZP6 as I only do filter, but awesome
I had a baratza years ago and after the plastic motor mount cracked (as in the body/frame itself) I went to a Breville/Sage Smart grinder Pro and I found it superior in almost every way, the baratza was more noisey and very messy if you considered that both provided good grind quality etc. I now have a DF54 and thus far I am liking it and it is just more solidly built. Time will tell if this means longevity...Thanks for your insights on these models.
Sorry to hear. Hope the new DF will last for a long time!
I have had the EXACT same experience, 3 baratzas, all broke down many times for diff reasons. Traded all for a Breville and NEVER had and issue. 5 years so far.
There's not many comparisons between the DF54 and the Smart Grinder Pro. What's your experience now 2 months later, was it worth the change? Because it's a lot of money to upgrade.
Hi. Decibels, more specifically change in db values from one measurement to another, is tricky to understand. The decibel scale is logarithmic, not linear, so differences in readings are not straightforward to compare. An increase in 3 db is a doubling of the sound pressure/energy/intensity which is NOT equivalent to the loudness difference we actually perceive. An increase of ~10 dB is required before the sound subjectively appears to be twice as loud to our ear. The difference you measured was 6 db (92db - 86db). While not a 2x difference in perceived sound, a 6db difference is not insignificant. Add to this the sound quality difference that you observed, the DF54 seems to be categorically better.
Thanks for the explanation, will study this more for future comparisons!
I e used Baratza grinders for many years. Tnhey ste reasonabbly priced and perform well until allthat plastic breaks. I had to recently order a burr holder and the adjustmt ring. Good communication from customer service but parts are not in stock for my Virtuoso+.
The mostly medal df54 looks like a better option especially for espresso.
Thanks for your in depth review.
How would you compare the K Ultra to the DF54? I definitely prefer manual grinders, but they end up being the same price where I live, and was thinking if taste is comparable, might just be better to go electric, especially for espresso
I agree 💯
The Encore ESP offered incredible value when it was released. The DF54 is honestly unbelievable for the price.
Would love to see the Turin SK40 added to the comparisons.
I was alredy convinced to buy Encore ESP, but now I need to revise my plan. I just drink espresso, nothing else...
Would love to see a comparison between the DF54 and 1ZPresso J.
Aside from review on grinders, I like the fact that you are using Hario's immersion drippers for brewing, which is a nice move forward as all other drip (pour over) methods are outdated in my opinion.
Great comparison! Good job! I feel that interesting and valid points were brought up for both grinders.
If you were to compare the tasting notes for espresso that you get from the DF54 vs the 1zpresso j-ultra. Which would you prefer? Thank you!
Thanks, that's great to hear! J Ultra is both more textured and layered, which I prefer to the more neutral and clean representation of the DF54.
@@coffeechronicler Thank you so much for the reply. I really do appreciate the videos that you put out. They have been helpful for me, and I feel to others like me as well learning about coffee and coffee related gear. Keep up the good work.
great quality video and review! Thanks!
I have a 1zpresso JX Pro now, but I'm considering the DF54 for ease of use. Would that be a downgrade in quality?
IMO DF54 is a step forward for both filter and espresso
which one would be a good grinder for an basic entry expresso machine like the breville duo temp pro? thanks for the excellent videos!!
What is the best budget espresso grinder and higher end grinder? If trying to grind lighter beans as well for espresso. For ease of use and kind of new to the espresso game
I have the wilfa from ladara , l don’t see it mentioned anywhere.
I got a Eureka Chrono, the new one has the same burr as the Filtro, very little fines, tho the adjustment is bit annoying. This looks like a good buy too
That grinder has some quirks, but it's extremely consistent. And much better construction than the Encore.
@@coffeechronicler Your old review helped me buy it, yours is the only detailed review I can find. Very happy with it, the dial is painful but I use it with Moccamaster so once dialed in it’s gonna stay there most of the time
Who here started their journey with an Encore and a Porlex?
I had an Encore. But luckily, I entered the hobby just past the Ceramic Age.
GUYS!
Just buy :
1zpresso Z-ultra for everything
OR
Timemore S3 for the best Filter Coffee
OR
1zpresso J-ultra for the best Espresso
30 sec - 1 min of hand grinding in relatively silence... it's not fast enough for you ?
This hand grinders also do the better job than any auto-grinder < 500$
I'm brewing pour over for 2-3 people, 2-3 times a day, so it's nice to be able to grind 48g at once.
Have C40, 1Z Z, but sometimes I just want a quick coffee so I use my electric grinder. For espresso dialing in with manual is just pain, even worse you have to pull multiple shot
What is a Z-Ultra? I’m only seeing K Ultra and X Ultra
Df54 serms good for espresso but people, me included, are reporting clogging at courser grind sizes. Everyone says to just clean the chute all the time but this being sold as a zero retention grinder. Clogging is retention. So if it clogs and needs cleaning it's not zero retention.
And when it clogs and the ionizer dorsnt work, the amount of static is insane.
Remove the prongs. They are physically collecting fines and building up a wall of coffee that clogs the chute. 2-3 rdt spray help. Also use onely 1 chute and clip it out so the whole exit chute is open. Grinds faster and no clogs
@@ilkzode1822 Thanks but I refuse to fix something I just bought. This is why coffee equipment companies know they can beta test on consumers.
@@DH-bf9xb well for 200-230 it really is a bargain. Most ppl dont mod pr go om etsy for 3rd party hacks. I used what was available to me and some logic.all DF grinders have flawed declumpers. Absolutely nonreason why they needed 2 of them stacked on top of one another. Secondly prongs are a gimmick.
So buy the grinder and complete 2 very easy hacks and wwwwaahhh-lahhh , better grinder.
Most companies have retarded R&D workers.
Gaggia for example. Used a teflon coating for their boiler. Youre telling me gaggia never knew about the flaking issue? They sure as hell did. But it cost so much in productiom, they shipped it out to whole latte love anyways. But smart consumers mad enough complaints gaggia had a recall.
Old fart companies dont care about pride. Its the greedy dollar
@@DH-bf9xb Honestly I have had a DF54 for 3 months now and not had one clog, the retention really is 0.1g. The prongs do stop working very quickly for static but I now just use an artists paintbrush up the chute after every 2 or 3 grinds and it is all good again no fixing required. I roast my own beans to light medium or medium for reference. In all honesty I think the DF54 is fantastic for the price and rate it as good as my Niche Zero that I have used for 3 years.
What grind setting do you use on the DF54 for V60 / Pour over?
Around setting 70. My zero point is not quite the true zero. It's probably more around minus 5-7.
I’m torn between the DF54 and Encore ESP. I’ll be using the grinder for drip coffee with a Technivorm Moccamaster daily, and pulling an espresso shot several times a week with a ROK EspressoGC. I lean towards medium to dark roast for drip coffee, and medium to light body for espresso. Do you think the DF54 is overkill for my set up and preferences ? I like the overall build of the DF54, but I’m wondering if it is just gonna over complicate things and using the Encore ESP will make the workflows easier.
My review is mainly focused on a modern single-dose workflow. If you grind bigger batches (+35 g) you might like the hopper and bigger catch cup of the Encore ESP. However, if you're mainly grinding single doses I think they're pretty equal in terms of UX.
I’m torn - leaning towards the D54 but I have a gift certificate at a store that only sells the Baratza, which would bring it down to $100 vs $225 for the D54. Is there enough of a difference to justify that price differential? Just getting started with a basic espresso machine and I prefer medium dark roasts, so no need for anything super fancy. I’m wondering if grinding before every shot might start to feel like a chore. Cleaning frequently seems like a big issue too. Decisions …decisions….
Encore ESP is a good grinder. So if you're not super fancy, then it might be the right choice. However, if you're only going to use it for espresso, I'd opt for a Baratza Sette 30 instead.
@@coffeechroniclerthanks for the reply. The store the gift card is for only has the esp and virtuoso+, along with Breville and a few other “appliance” brands. I ended up ordering the ESP ( tho aesthetically I preferred the DF64) largely due to difficulty disassembling the latter. I decided since I’m still learning, spending modestly now ($110 out of pocket after gift and coupon) and knowing I’ll most likely spring for a better espresso machine and an upgraded grinder in the future, it seemed like a reasonable choice. I can always use the ESP for moka pot, pour over, etc if/when I spring for (maybe a gen2) DF. I’m impressed by the build, doubtful about their service and support, and a little squeamish about disassembling it for a full burr cleaning. I may get the add on aftermarket bellows for the ESP, which might help minimize retention. i usually pull 3-4 shots per morning, so for now, at least, a hopper style will likely be more convenient.
Really enjoying your videos - thanks for the detailed analysis and feedback!
Hej Asser! Hvor ville du købe en D54 i Danmark? MiiCoffee og Turin er kun til Amerikanske kunder, og ellers er det at købe direkte fra Kina som er mindre optimalt.
Kan findes på tysk Amazon (under et andet navn) amzn.to/4hS6Dki samt Frekko.nl
Damn, I want them both! 😂😂
Sometimes I recommend grinders that go well as a pair, but that's not really the case here. Just stick with one of them :)
Well done
I kind of wish you did a sound test with coffee being ground.
That's exactly what I did :) They are not that noisy when the motor is just running empty.
I bought a Mugen after watching your video discussing them,, and wow, it's really nice! I love my Mugen
Still dont get the meaning of having a grinder with big hopper for home use: does'nt coffee need to be away from light?
So you can tip a whole back in and see how much you have left? The plastic for the hoppers tends to be tinted
6 db sound difference is a lot
Video came out just 30 minutes after my DF54 arrived 😂
Congrats on the new grinder!
Wise choice!
Thanks! I‘m really looking forward to making the first espresso
😅😂🤌
It's annoying that this should be titled "best ELECTRIC grinder under $250". It's very frustrating that "grinder" seems synonymous with "electronic grinder". (I appreciate that you have done a number of hand grinders, but compare a $250 hand grinder to either of these electric grinders and what do you get?)
The Encore ESP keeps suffering creep during months. You have to put washers and more washers and it doesn't reach a steady state. It also leakes ground coffee on the walls. Too much plastic for a grinder. Not recomended at all.
Thought it might just be my unit, since I didn't see this mentioned in most other reviews. But time will tell...
Plastic junk. Never a Baratza again