Dude, thanks a ton for this vid! I just got the Hori real arcade pro sa stick and SSF4 last night. Having grown up on using pads it's a huge obstacle for me to get acclimated to a stick, (I couldn't even do a double qcf motion!) so after watching this vid of yours I can't wait to get home and try out each grip to find the one that works best for me. I really appreciate it!
More people than you think, trust me. I'm one of those people. It shows you the options out there, things you can try whilst exploring the position that's best for you. I'm honestly new to arcade sticks (getting one in the mail soon), so I'm one of those people who need vids like this. xD
@BigBlueandWhite You have to buffer the motion. During the shoryuken motion, when you're at the down position, hit the kick button, then go to the diagonal and press punch for the shoruyken to come out. You can do the same with crouch into super. Do one qcf motion, then on the second qcf motion when you're at the down position press the kick, go diagonal, then front, then press the punch button for the super to come out.
I use a combination of Wineglass/no homo, I think that's the one Daigo ended up using in his tutorial video WHICH I CAN'T FIND (Yours is great for showing ALL the styles though)
Thank you for this old video. Everytime there is a topic of how you hold it, most all the things people say are "there is no right way, just do what feels natural and practice". Well I want to know of other ways and see if they are more natural, or just plain superior! Like, You can hold a guitar multiple ways, but it is best to learn a more proper way, and it is up to you if you want to hold it different from a more normally accepted way.
@BigBlueandWhite You have to buffer the motion. During the shoryuken motion, when you're at the down position, hit the kick button, then go to the diagonal and press punch for the shoruyken to come out.
@dragoonerzerg They're awesome, I'm happy to report. I use the "wineglass" technique myself, and was surprised to see how much more often supers and ultras came out just by making sure I was gripping the joystick that way. I'm totally converted now, and am enormously glad I got the stick. Good luck, dragoonerzerg!
i just got my first stick a few days ago and im also having a lil trouble with srk input, i play a few hours a day and im getting alot better. Best advice i could give you is just practice hours long ;)
My way; thumb on right side, pokefinger on left side, done. Use thumb for motions towards left side and pokefinger + thumb for right side. Superior tactics.
Nice video but....i believe that the best way to use a balltop stick is to use it with your RIGHT hand if your a righthanded person and the LEFT hand if you are a lefthanded person. Also the best grip for me is the "eagle" grip as you call it...with the RIGHT hand of course! Cheers! I am from Greece and i remember those days back in the 90s when I was really pissed of when the first japanese style arcade cabinets ( with the buttons on the right, stick on the left...) appeared.
LMAO!! I use the freaking "no homo" grip!! On occasions I would lift both my hands in the air with my forearms scrunched in to my chest. I had no idea it was even called that. No wonder it felt so weird. Great video man!!
Be comfortable for gains. I think the way I hold it should be called THE SHOCKER, since it's more or less a cross between the Monkey and the Eagle grip. Magic Fourth Finger down, knuckle more or less free to come into contact with the shaft of a balltop, with the middle and pointy fingers around the ball and the thumb on top. Surprised to see how comfortable most styles are though! Excellent taste in music also; I didn't even know that cover existed.
I use eagle or no home. Like you described I don't use the thumb much. Perhaps to grab the ball if it gets out of hand. I can't figure out if your stick is small or your hands are big lol. I use a full size desk top stick over a lap size like yours.
Haha awesome video, I had no idea there were actually so many grips used. I just found out I use a variation on the No Homo, but I tend to just rest my thumb over the top. I tried the wineglass but it really wasn't comfortable for me because my hand's aren't small enough or something. When I just started with mine I tried the monkey grip just by intuition but it was hard for me to do half circle movements. Video Fave'd.
Damn right son. To get that art I had to battle 14 wolves. Yeah sure, they were puppies, but they were still wolves, so I'm a hard-ass don't you forget it!
Is the wineglass typically played palm-up like that? I've been playing a middle-fingered wineglass, resting my hand on its side. Great video though, it really helped me out months ago when I first got a stick. Thanks!
I usually cross my right and left arm because its what's comfortable for me. My grip wasn't mentioned. I take my pointer finger and my middle finger and put it on the bottom of the shaft so my hand is flat. I really need to get a Kthulu board so I can play on my Ps2!
The grip I use is not in this video 😆 so Idk what I'd even call it. It's like the wine glass I guess but it's just my fingertips, I don't have the stick all the way between my fingertips touching my palm like the wine glass. My ring and pinky are behind the stick my middle is touching the front of the stick and at the bottom of the ball and my index and thumb touch the ball around the middle and towards the top.
I actually recommend getting a Bat-top if you feel that the stick is too short. Many arcade part suppliers sell Bat-Tops for Sanwa/Seimitsu sticks. It's extremely helpful for people used to Happ parts and people with large hands.
@ Lurkerrekrul I am a very strong left handed person. But I think for anything that is dual handed (IE gaming as an example)... Your mind sort of compensates... I have never felt disadvantaged against a right handed player and likewise I was ranked very highly on some classic PC shooters just playing the right handed way.... Bottom line both hands are doing something important so it makes sense for everyone to play the same way. I even Play the guitar *right handed*....
I'm trying to learn how to play with a arcade stick for SFV but I can't do special moves or super moves on the 1 Player side. I'm going to try a few of these grips and see if they work. Thanks
It takes practice grasshopper. Remember the first time you tried to take a shit? It just went all over your pants and the floor. But with practice, you learned to hold the kaka in your intestines until you got to a toilet. Think back to that day while you practice. Think of taking your first shit on a toilet.
@cheeriosNchex Pretty common for people new to joysticks. You haven't practiced enough doing it on that side and that's why you're missing the moves. Try using your thumb more to guide the motion. You need practice.
Useful video. Once I've got my shitty MadCatz SE Fightstick fixed (i.e. put a decent stick and buttons in it), I will start fully re-learning how to play Street Fighter on a stick, after many many years of pad-based action. This will be useful for finding a technique that works for me, as I'm finding the transition very difficult. I can't help feeling like the joystick itself is too short for my hands. Experimentation is the key...
What difference does it make what side of the brain controls which hand? The fact is that in right-handed people (who in in the majority), the *RIGHT* hand is the most coordinated hand. That's why right-handed people write with their right hand, they use the mouse with their right hand, etc. However, when it comes to video games, they're expected to play with their left. Serious question: If you're right-handed, do you use the mouse with your left hand while playing FPS games? If not, why?
It's been a WHILE. But I think these are Sanwa buttons where I mixed and matched two sets of buttons. One set with various colors and one set that's grey.
I lol'd at this video, especially the no homo grip. also as a fellow SRK member, just saying hi. I go by the name 'the middle east guy' on SRK, so send me a message if you want to say hello!
after all that my grip wasn't in there...didn't think it was too unorthodox... Pretty much index and middle fingers together and ring and pinkie finger together...stick goes in between with thumb on top pretty much
well, your making it a bit harder on yourself heres an easier way..start by moving the stick to the f position. Then move it to the d position. Then move it to the d/f position. It should come out every time if done right.
anyway, can you tell me what grip is better for the diagonals? cuz i have to use the a lot on Blazblue. the only thing I know is that I close my full hand, just surrounding the balltop Thanks 4 the vid PS:Guile´s theme always goes with everything!! xD
Maybe you can help me... I play as Sakura a lot. Whenever I try to use her Shinko Haduken when she's on the left side, it seems to fail most of the time. On the right, I do it completely fine.
My style of gripping this type of joystick is in essense a variant of the "Monkey Grip" - variant as in my ring and pinky arern't wrapped around the shaft, but relaxed and free, so only my middle, index, and thumb are actually gripping (the balltop). I also tried the various gripping styies shown here, but I still find the "Monkey Grip" best for me.
@CantoV Thanks for the reply back, it's greatly appreciated. I really do prefer the arcade joystick because it feels like I handle movements better. I shall keep practicing!
Came back here to share your video to new fighting game players. Thanks for still having this one up🙌🏿
Glad it helps. 😊
I learned arcade stick on this. Video and it's still the best grip. Video i remembered when you posted it
This is the first video on gripping the joy stick that actually made everything “click” for me. Thanks!
Thanks my guy. Can’t believe a video I made when I was 19, 15 years ago, has helped so many people. 🥺
holy shit.. dude honestly best video on this subject hands down.. good work
You know it.
this video is still here, amazing
Ha ha yeppp. Oldie but a goodie.
He's very good at holding the shaft.
That's what he said! Oh wait... no homo!
You actually got me laughing with your comments about the grip of doom. Very informative, you are getting a like sir.
Just so you know Daigo uses the stick in between his pinky and ring finger.
Daigo can stick his fingers wherever he wants, y'know what I mean?
Dude, thanks a ton for this vid! I just got the Hori real arcade pro sa stick and SSF4 last night. Having grown up on using pads it's a huge obstacle for me to get acclimated to a stick, (I couldn't even do a double qcf motion!) so after watching this vid of yours I can't wait to get home and try out each grip to find the one that works best for me. I really appreciate it!
This helped a little actually coming from a person who wants to make a transition from the controller pad to arcade stick
You seem really good at gripping the shaft and playing with ball my guy.
You know it.
2022 I was here
Thx for the memes and info
You know it, homeboiii.
can't believe the way of my holding is called "no homo" that's funny af
Finally at long last someone bothered to upload a video like this,
Id go with the glass wine style, most natural to me
More people than you think, trust me.
I'm one of those people. It shows you the options out there, things you can try whilst exploring the position that's best for you.
I'm honestly new to arcade sticks (getting one in the mail soon), so I'm one of those people who need vids like this. xD
This video is still the GOAT
Always come back to this video as a refresher. I naturally go for eagle grip but it's always good to experiment.
Thanks. I made the arcade stick myself and one of my friends drew the artwork.
Slayer is awesome.
@BigBlueandWhite
You have to buffer the motion. During the shoryuken motion, when you're at the down position, hit the kick button, then go to the diagonal and press punch for the shoruyken to come out.
You can do the same with crouch into super. Do one qcf motion, then on the second qcf motion when you're at the down position press the kick, go diagonal, then front, then press the punch button for the super to come out.
I use a combination of Wineglass/no homo, I think that's the one Daigo ended up using in his tutorial video WHICH I CAN'T FIND (Yours is great for showing ALL the styles though)
Thank you for this old video. Everytime there is a topic of how you hold it, most all the things people say are "there is no right way, just do what feels natural and practice". Well I want to know of other ways and see if they are more natural, or just plain superior! Like, You can hold a guitar multiple ways, but it is best to learn a more proper way, and it is up to you if you want to hold it different from a more normally accepted way.
Guile's theme goes with everything?
Nice guide.
First thing I heard when I opened this video? Guile's theme. Sure as hell goes with everything.
"Oh! It's the Grip of Doom! Get out of the way! Don't play him!" lol cracked me up.
@BigBlueandWhite
You have to buffer the motion. During the shoryuken motion, when you're at the down position, hit the kick button, then go to the diagonal and press punch for the shoruyken to come out.
Nice for those peeps who aren't experienced with the Japanese style Arcade sticks.
as new arcade stick player this video helped me out a lot. Thanks bro.
@dragoonerzerg They're awesome, I'm happy to report. I use the "wineglass" technique myself, and was surprised to see how much more often supers and ultras came out just by making sure I was gripping the joystick that way. I'm totally converted now, and am enormously glad I got the stick. Good luck, dragoonerzerg!
love the video! Props how you beat your arcade stick up! i’m too scared with mine 😂
Nice vid man! In all my years I've never used any of these - I can see how using the pinky more may help.. Will have a go! ^_^
i certainly grip the shaft and ball in a way i feel comfortable with
i just got my first stick a few days ago and im also having a lil trouble with srk input, i play a few hours a day and im getting alot better. Best advice i could give you is just practice hours long ;)
this does not deserve negative thumbs
My way; thumb on right side, pokefinger on left side, done. Use thumb for motions towards left side and pokefinger + thumb for right side.
Superior tactics.
Been using the wineglass one without even knowing if it was a normal grip or something
Nice video but....i believe that the best way to use a balltop stick is to use it with your RIGHT hand if your a righthanded person and the LEFT hand if you are a lefthanded person. Also the best grip for me is the "eagle" grip as you call it...with the RIGHT hand of course! Cheers! I am from Greece and i remember those days back in the 90s when I was really pissed of when the first japanese style arcade cabinets ( with the buttons on the right, stick on the left...) appeared.
Is that altered beast as the picture?
You're OG dawg.
Still using modified wine glass to this day, thanks to this vid. Thank you sir!
I like how instead of getting transparent seimitsu buttons you used grey plungers for sanwas.
LMAO!! I use the freaking "no homo" grip!! On occasions I would lift both my hands in the air with my forearms scrunched in to my chest. I had no idea it was even called that. No wonder it felt so weird. Great video man!!
Be comfortable for gains.
I think the way I hold it should be called THE SHOCKER, since it's more or less a cross between the Monkey and the Eagle grip. Magic Fourth Finger down, knuckle more or less free to come into contact with the shaft of a balltop, with the middle and pointy fingers around the ball and the thumb on top.
Surprised to see how comfortable most styles are though!
Excellent taste in music also; I didn't even know that cover existed.
Awesome, dude. You know, one comment outside of "great vid". You said Ball and Shaft a lot... and that made me lol hard.
I see what you did there, Yousef. You're trying to imbue your arcade stick with the power that is Three Wolf Moon.
I just got my stick a few weeks ago so this is awesome for me! Thanks.
Watching this after 13 years
My man.
I seemed to have settled on the eagle grip instinctively. I'm still getting used to the stick. From what I've read, it takes practice.
Yeah I know what you mean. It took me 3 seconds of practice to master all the grips. Shit was hard work.
I use eagle or no home. Like you described I don't use the thumb much. Perhaps to grab the ball if it gets out of hand.
I can't figure out if your stick is small or your hands are big lol. I use a full size desk top stick over a lap size like yours.
Haha awesome video, I had no idea there were actually so many grips used. I just found out I use a variation on the No Homo, but I tend to just rest my thumb over the top. I tried the wineglass but it really wasn't comfortable for me because my hand's aren't small enough or something. When I just started with mine I tried the monkey grip just by intuition but it was hard for me to do half circle movements. Video Fave'd.
Yah I bought an official one without the cruddy 6 buttons and nice art.
The image on your fight stick is fucking godlike dude Im jealous
Damn right son. To get that art I had to battle 14 wolves. Yeah sure, they were puppies, but they were still wolves, so I'm a hard-ass don't you forget it!
Seems I'm using a variant of the eagle, I'd use the wineglass but the TE's shaft isn't long enough (made in japan!)
Is the wineglass typically played palm-up like that? I've been playing a middle-fingered wineglass, resting my hand on its side. Great video though, it really helped me out months ago when I first got a stick. Thanks!
the grip of doom turns functional arcade sticks into broken ones xD
Grip of doom works ok, but i like the wineglass spliced with the eagle i guess.
I usually cross my right and left arm because its what's comfortable for me. My grip wasn't mentioned. I take my pointer finger and my middle finger and put it on the bottom of the shaft so my hand is flat. I really need to get a Kthulu board so I can play on my Ps2!
The grip I use is not in this video 😆 so Idk what I'd even call it. It's like the wine glass I guess but it's just my fingertips, I don't have the stick all the way between my fingertips touching my palm like the wine glass. My ring and pinky are behind the stick my middle is touching the front of the stick and at the bottom of the ball and my index and thumb touch the ball around the middle and towards the top.
Give it a name and watch your opponents cower when you say it. 😈
I actually recommend getting a Bat-top if you feel that the stick is too short.
Many arcade part suppliers sell Bat-Tops for Sanwa/Seimitsu sticks.
It's extremely helpful for people used to Happ parts and people with large hands.
guile theme goes with everything
You forgot the pointer finger and thumb grip, with the other three fingers kinda resting on the side. Thats how I use it
@anchor2000
It rotates.
lol now I know that I actually use the no homo. Thanks for the info!!! This video is very useful and I'm glad you made it!
@ Lurkerrekrul
I am a very strong left handed person.
But I think for anything that is dual handed (IE gaming as an example)... Your mind sort of compensates... I have never felt disadvantaged against a right handed player and likewise I was ranked very highly on some classic PC shooters just playing the right handed way....
Bottom line both hands are doing something important so it makes sense for everyone to play the same way. I even Play the guitar *right handed*....
It's all about that eagle dawg
Nice guide and sweet custom stick though the graphic is kinda cheesy.
I realized that I using the "No Homo" grip for few years now as a grappler character, until this video showed up XD. GG
Nice.
@YaYousef5 Ironically, it's nice XD
The 'wineglass' and the 'no homo' are the best ones.
I'm trying to learn how to play with a arcade stick for SFV but I can't do special moves or super moves on the 1 Player side. I'm going to try a few of these grips and see if they work. Thanks
It takes practice grasshopper. Remember the first time you tried to take a shit? It just went all over your pants and the floor. But with practice, you learned to hold the kaka in your intestines until you got to a toilet. Think back to that day while you practice. Think of taking your first shit on a toilet.
I could not do the supers too, especially in emulators, but now I can easily
@FrozenMutiny
Wine glass is a common name for the hold. The others I made up with some friends of mine.
@cheeriosNchex
Pretty common for people new to joysticks. You haven't practiced enough doing it on that side and that's why you're missing the moves.
Try using your thumb more to guide the motion. You need practice.
Useful video.
Once I've got my shitty MadCatz SE Fightstick fixed (i.e. put a decent stick and buttons in it), I will start fully re-learning how to play Street Fighter on a stick, after many many years of pad-based action.
This will be useful for finding a technique that works for me, as I'm finding the transition very difficult. I can't help feeling like the joystick itself is too short for my hands.
Experimentation is the key...
What difference does it make what side of the brain controls which hand? The fact is that in right-handed people (who in in the majority), the *RIGHT* hand is the most coordinated hand.
That's why right-handed people write with their right hand, they use the mouse with their right hand, etc. However, when it comes to video games, they're expected to play with their left.
Serious question: If you're right-handed, do you use the mouse with your left hand while playing FPS games? If not, why?
Hmm, the wine glass works great, but the eagle grip seems to work great for me too.
Which buttons are those? The rims look so nice with the black tops.
It's been a WHILE. But I think these are Sanwa buttons where I mixed and matched two sets of buttons. One set with various colors and one set that's grey.
I use the eagle grip, minus the thumb, sometimes I use the thumb to jump but qcf's and qcbs just without thumb
@CantoV i was also going to ask how do u set up buttons on the fightstick whats the usual at evo?
I thought Daigo did 3 fingers up pinky below with thumb on the balltop?
I lol'd at this video, especially the no homo grip.
also as a fellow SRK member, just saying hi. I go by the name 'the middle east guy' on SRK, so send me a message if you want to say hello!
@FREEBOOSIEboo
Definitely go for the one that gives you the best comfort for the amount of precision you get with it.
I say try the standard way & the wineglass first & then the rest
This is so funny! He is making those names up. No homo? Lol
Huh, I had no idea there were so many ways to hold a stick.
You forgot the 'Slap Dat Ass WTF? are you doing to my joystiq you're gonna break my S***! hold' LMAO
What's the best way to hold a stick for shmup players?
after all that my grip wasn't in there...didn't think it was too unorthodox...
Pretty much index and middle fingers together and ring and pinkie finger together...stick goes in between with thumb on top pretty much
From what I've seen, I don't think Daigo uses the Wineglass.
awesome vid !
well, your making it a bit harder on yourself heres an easier way..start by moving the stick to the f position. Then move it to the d position. Then move it to the d/f position. It should come out every time if done right.
anyway, can you tell me what grip is better for the diagonals? cuz i have to use the a lot on Blazblue. the only thing I know is that I close my full hand, just surrounding the balltop
Thanks 4 the vid
PS:Guile´s theme always goes with everything!! xD
@EdOscuro
That sounds pretty awesome.
Which grip is best for Tekken players?
Maybe you can help me...
I play as Sakura a lot. Whenever I try to use her Shinko Haduken when she's on the left side, it seems to fail most of the time. On the right, I do it completely fine.
lol is that napoleon dynamites stick?
My style of gripping this type of joystick is in essense a variant of the "Monkey Grip" - variant as in my ring and pinky arern't wrapped around the shaft, but relaxed and free, so only my middle, index, and thumb are actually gripping (the balltop). I also tried the various gripping styies shown here, but I still find the "Monkey Grip" best for me.
Grip of doom of course!
Try Eagle, works wonders for me.
@captainsynonym
I'm interested too but i can't until I come home from school tomorrow monday (shit!) so how good are these methods?
puberty strikes again 3:51
But I'm man enough to leave it in the video. One take baby.
Daigo uses the modified 3 finger wineglass.
i was going to ask whats the best grip to start off with i like the daigo one with the wine glass its super comfortable for me?
@CantoV
Thanks for the reply back, it's greatly appreciated. I really do prefer the arcade joystick because it feels like I handle movements better. I shall keep practicing!
The grip of doom.