Damn that's interesting. Never knew about the "quicker to neutral" thing, but that sounds like my cup of tea. I like the buttery-smoothness of Japanese sticks, but I want them to snap back to neutral more forcefully.
@@3tenzo3 Yes it does do the same. a Seimitsu LS-55 Spring is a good one. I would actually say Japanese sticks are faster to use. I would personally recommend a Seimitsu LS-40 or an LS--32 for fighting games over a JLF. They have the same style microswitches but still a Japanese style stick and they return to neutral faster than a JLF and have a shorter throw.
So that's weird... Because the arcade cabinets have totally different sticks used in Pakistan... Ball top but the bottom part where the stick hits the micro switches were like Korean style... I saw the owner or arcade repairing it many times because he had a good arcade and always kept his machines in a good condition... And repaired them at the spot... Most arcade Owners would just turn off the machine and repair it during less activity or at the closing or before opening in the Morning
There's some good info in here, but some of this is more like the specific differences between one Japanese stick (a JLF) and one Korean stick. Sanwa makes battops which also work on other Japanese sticks, and Seimitsu generally uses levered switches, so these are not necessarily things that set Korean sticks apart. Anyways, this is put together pretty well, the things that are really important differences are in there - no gates, springs vs rubber, overall feel, stuff like that - and it's always cool to see information about Korean sticks out there.
I feel strange saying this...but I'm American, born and raised in America, and have never lived in any other country.....but I've always HATED the ball top. Growing up going to the Arcades, I always preferred the Korean style stick; and I was decidedly better at playing than with the Ball Tops. I dunno.
"nazis where left wingers." lol, Hitler the left constantly. Also "lefties and communists" don't want to limit free speech bud or put you in jail for speaking. Lefties and commies just want to liberate the lower classes and stop abuse of the proletariat.
Hi, Im using a japanese stick (hori RAP V). If I change the spring to 2lbs, will it go back to neutral and just neutral? Sometimes, it hits the opposite direction. Say, Im trying to do wave dashing in tekken. Sometimes it jumps, sometimes it wave dash cancels automatically... And I hate that.
Mon G Then I recommend a 3-lb. spring. It will return to neutral a lot faster, but your inputs need to be harder, and faster jerks to get them into places for the inputs. But I like doing that anyway. But I prefer the default 2-lb. spring... I'm weird.
Good question. Japanese buttons are more sensitive and less hollow feeling. I believe korean buttons require further depression before activation but I'm not positive.
Not true. I enter many tournaments and none have this rule. Old USA arcades for Street Fighter 2 were 360, no corners. It sucked to have to play Tekken on those. Yet all tournaments up until about Tekken 5 were mainly played on those sticks. Since then, most people use square, but theres no rule against others, not even against HITBOX which has NO gate just buttons.
I'd like to try out a korean stick. Are there any that have a square restrictor and Sanwa style mounting? I currently have a Seimitsu LS-56, Sanwa JLF Silent, and a Hayabusa (No idea what model, but it was built into my Hori Fighting Edge Pro).
Why should it be square only? All gates, including square, give advantages AND disadvantages. We are not talking about "stand up arcade" or selfless situations, we are talking about personal application in tournament, likely console, setting. It would make sense in an all arcade environment due obvious reasons but segregating a player's personal preference that doesn't affect the game like using turbo is dubious.
I love street fighter and am looking for my first stick to play on. Can anyone tell me what a decent reasonably priced stick would be? I was hoping for around $100 give or take $20. Thank you
Tyler Robinson hey I have a few sticks my newest is a qanba glow I got for Xmas. Every stick I’ve bought through the years were pretty expensive. The oldest one that I still have is 5 years old and I bought it for just under 200 bucks it’s a sf x tekken pro one. The qanba I bought was just under 300 dollars. I did buy a backup for 50 dollars on the Walmart site it’s a Hori great quality just small so I let guests use it. The mad Katz SE sticks were about 60 bucks when they came out but that was almost 10 years ago. If this is your first stick purchase I’m gonna advise you to do something that I did before you go spend mega bucks on a piece of hardware. Try a Mayflash arcade stick. They are usually very inexpensive decent quality. They are relatively easy to modify and replace parts. My very first stick was a Mayflash I bought for 20 dollars on amazon. I used it on everything old arcade emulators street fighter 3 and 4. I’ve been a stick player ever since I hope this helps out
DEVILSPEED GR Japanese* if you're going to correct someone, make sure they don't have to correct you back, idiot. Plus, Sanwa is a Japanese arcade stick mod brand. So... SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! ANG GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!!!
Mad Amd I play Japanese, but it's personal preference. Like we said, if you want immediate neutral returns, then Korean is the best. But if you want a stick that moves more delicately, and has corners to activate the switches, then Japanese is the best. Try both, and see which one you prefer. Another plus with Korean sticks, is because it's a bat top, it can be gripped by bigger hands. On the other hand, if you want something for small-handed people, then go with Japanese.
Damn that's interesting. Never knew about the "quicker to neutral" thing, but that sounds like my cup of tea. I like the buttery-smoothness of Japanese sticks, but I want them to snap back to neutral more forcefully.
Un1234l wouldnt stiffer springs do the same?
Un1234l I actually like the Koreans more. I’m able to go in a full circle motion without getting caught on the corner.
@@3tenzo3 Yes it does do the same. a Seimitsu LS-55 Spring is a good one. I would actually say Japanese sticks are faster to use. I would personally recommend a Seimitsu LS-40 or an LS--32 for fighting games over a JLF. They have the same style microswitches but still a Japanese style stick and they return to neutral faster than a JLF and have a shorter throw.
So that's weird... Because the arcade cabinets have totally different sticks used in Pakistan... Ball top but the bottom part where the stick hits the micro switches were like Korean style... I saw the owner or arcade repairing it many times because he had a good arcade and always kept his machines in a good condition... And repaired them at the spot... Most arcade Owners would just turn off the machine and repair it during less activity or at the closing or before opening in the Morning
you can easily change the top of stick as it is easily removabl / custmosable.
That's really cool! I like that Pakistan has kind of it's own arcade identity.
I love the idea behind Korean sticks but I NEED A FUCKING SQUARE GATE
+Andrey Oliveira thanks for the advice!
FatedCircle there is the etokki stick
FatedCircle and i want an 8 gate
What does this square gate thing mean.
There's some good info in here, but some of this is more like the specific differences between one Japanese stick (a JLF) and one Korean stick. Sanwa makes battops which also work on other Japanese sticks, and Seimitsu generally uses levered switches, so these are not necessarily things that set Korean sticks apart.
Anyways, this is put together pretty well, the things that are really important differences are in there - no gates, springs vs rubber, overall feel, stuff like that - and it's always cool to see information about Korean sticks out there.
Iv'e owned my SFIV TE for the last 8 years and it's still running strong!
Is the rubber on the Korean sticks prone to rotting?
Love the bat top especially, drop a lot of combos with the ball top
pee is stored in the balls
Korean is better.
I feel strange saying this...but I'm American, born and raised in America, and have never lived in any other country.....but I've always HATED the ball top. Growing up going to the Arcades, I always preferred the Korean style stick; and I was decidedly better at playing than with the Ball Tops. I dunno.
@Liberalism is a Cult liberals are pad players inforwars dot com
I like how you immediately jump to how you're "not a nazi", I think you know deep down that you are a nazi.
"nazis where left wingers."
lol, Hitler the left constantly. Also "lefties and communists" don't want to limit free speech bud or put you in jail for speaking. Lefties and commies just want to liberate the lower classes and stop abuse of the proletariat.
Also being "very conservative" is just a fancy of way of saying "I hate black people" ;)
@Liberalism is a Cult damn dude you sound like brainwashed
The difference is Japanese is better.
so how tight are the korean sticks say compared to the Seimitsu stick that's found in the Fusion Sapphire?
Hi, Im using a japanese stick (hori RAP V). If I change the spring to 2lbs, will it go back to neutral and just neutral? Sometimes, it hits the opposite direction. Say, Im trying to do wave dashing in tekken. Sometimes it jumps, sometimes it wave dash cancels automatically... And I hate that.
Mon G Then I recommend a 3-lb. spring. It will return to neutral a lot faster, but your inputs need to be harder, and faster jerks to get them into places for the inputs. But I like doing that anyway. But I prefer the default 2-lb. spring... I'm weird.
I thought this was about chopsticks
1:46 oh yes ooohh i love that noise
whoa i didn't realize the differences would be that profound. I'd be interested to learn the history of both styles
Good question. Japanese buttons are more sensitive and less hollow feeling. I believe korean buttons require further depression before activation but I'm not positive.
Not true. I enter many tournaments and none have this rule. Old USA arcades for Street Fighter 2 were 360, no corners. It sucked to have to play Tekken on those. Yet all tournaments up until about Tekken 5 were mainly played on those sticks. Since then, most people use square, but theres no rule against others, not even against HITBOX which has NO gate just buttons.
So how do i go about putting one on my te sick!..I'm so sick of the square gate...and the booty ass ball top!
I'd like to try out a korean stick. Are there any that have a square restrictor and Sanwa style mounting? I currently have a Seimitsu LS-56, Sanwa JLF Silent, and a Hayabusa (No idea what model, but it was built into my Hori Fighting Edge Pro).
No it doesn't have to be square. That's like saying you cant play Street Fighter with Seimitsu buttons.
Ball top look the best
Why should it be square only? All gates, including square, give advantages AND disadvantages. We are not talking about "stand up arcade" or selfless situations, we are talking about personal application in tournament, likely console, setting. It would make sense in an all arcade environment due obvious reasons but segregating a player's personal preference that doesn't affect the game like using turbo is dubious.
I believe the best restrictor gate is the octagonal shape
I love street fighter and am looking for my first stick to play on. Can anyone tell me what a decent reasonably priced stick would be? I was hoping for around $100 give or take $20. Thank you
Tyler Robinson hey I have a few sticks my newest is a qanba glow I got for Xmas. Every stick I’ve bought through the years were pretty expensive. The oldest one that I still have is 5 years old and I bought it for just under 200 bucks it’s a sf x tekken pro one. The qanba I bought was just under 300 dollars. I did buy a backup for 50 dollars on the Walmart site it’s a Hori great quality just small so I let guests use it. The mad Katz SE sticks were about 60 bucks when they came out but that was almost 10 years ago. If this is your first stick purchase I’m gonna advise you to do something that I did before you go spend mega bucks on a piece of hardware. Try a Mayflash arcade stick. They are usually very inexpensive decent quality. They are relatively easy to modify and replace parts. My very first stick was a Mayflash I bought for 20 dollars on amazon. I used it on everything old arcade emulators street fighter 3 and 4. I’ve been a stick player ever since I hope this helps out
john dewberry III yes...thank you so much for the reply
Tyler Robinson no doubt glad I could help.
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yup, those sticks are out now.
Any rocommenderations for 8 gate sticks?
DEVILSPEED GR Sanwa
DEVILSPEED GR Japanese* if you're going to correct someone, make sure they don't have to correct you back, idiot. Plus, Sanwa is a Japanese arcade stick mod brand. So... SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! ANG GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!!!
Austin Miller And*
I want to buy a stick to mod with crown buttons and myoungshin fanta stick. Anyone know of a base stick i can use? apart from the saulabis.
Hmm...I have bought a Seimitsu stick before and yes they have corner gates but they use the same micro-switches as the Korean sticks.
says who?
I prefer the square gate over circular or octagon
Is there a height difference between the Japanese sticks and the Korean ones?
So basically Korean stick similar to seimitsu?
the difference is CYNNNNNNNNNNNIIIIIIIIKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
whats the song
Stormy Sandstorm by Darude
corian sticks are the BOOM!!!!!!!!!!
luis folgar Korean*
luis folgar Bomb*
Wow... I just realized the words I needed to correct, and how they correlate in current times... this took a dark turn real fast.
드디어 찾았다 ㅠㅠ 판매하시는군요 감사합니다.
which one is typically easier to use or cheaper or more common.
preference, but most people play on japanese. overall exposure to those stick is bigger.
good detail
Kappa
Korean sticks are top for TEKKEN
I still prefer korean sticks...
I grew up playing with Battop. But I like more the looks of the Balltop. So I switched to Balltop.
there is no difference between japanese and korean sticks. there are only chinese sticks
Soooooo which one is better?
Mad Amd you want quick neutral position on the stick then it's Korean
Mad Amd Japanese
It all comes down to personal preference...
If you’re from the Korea or the US and grew up in the arcade or have big hands, the Korean stick.
Mad Amd I play Japanese, but it's personal preference. Like we said, if you want immediate neutral returns, then Korean is the best. But if you want a stick that moves more delicately, and has corners to activate the switches, then Japanese is the best. Try both, and see which one you prefer. Another plus with Korean sticks, is because it's a bat top, it can be gripped by bigger hands. On the other hand, if you want something for small-handed people, then go with Japanese.
“...so let’s go and show them how it’s possible...” [END VIDEO] lol #idiots
Korean sticks are awful
they are no comparison to my Big American Stick!
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I have got a Korean stick with a ball on top.
A Fanta? How do you mod this?