Glad to see this series back. I have to agree with your video comparing Sith Empires from different ages, the original Sith Empire was definitely the coolest. Those illusory warships and warriors is one of the coolest abilities I’ve seen.
“They must be precursors to an invasion, we should kill them at once!” - Ludo Kressh He was kinda right on this one, if they killed the Daragon twins immediately the Sith Empire would’ve likely been better off in the long run.
And his viewpoint is probably due to how the Rakata invaded the Sith by pretending to be friends but then attacking when that failed. I think for that time Kressh didn't want to take any chances
Idk I think the Sith Empire would have stagnated due to having no one to conquer. Kressh might have been right but I don’t think his conservative viewpoint would have helped the Sith in the long run.
As much as I am not a fan of following traditions, I would prefer Ludo Kressh because he knows that fighting a battle one cannot win is not only futile but also foolish. If the Sith Empire remained in hiding from the Republic's sight, it could have propspered for the longer period of time.
Not really if the Sith pulled themselves together. If they had taken their time to build up a greater force and not fallen into infighting, they would have won.
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 I don't even they would make the sith it own special if they were brought it into conan. They would likely have them be all humans.
True, and it sure is a travesty people are more exposed to that sorry miniseries of the same name. Has some weird flaws, though, like somewhat old art and the occasional rushed story beats.
@@rixdjemso9926 Or rather protosabers (remember back in the day they had to be literally plugged to power packs on the belt or worn as a backpack) but yes.
@@MrWill9002 It would have been cool if Odan-Urr and his fellow Jedi used shields to block blaster bolts because of the Protosabers limiting their flexibility.
Sith illusions vanish Sith soldier: Wait what!? Republic soldier: Well. Looks like your army wasn't as large as we thought. Men (readies a blaster). Sith soldier: Uh-oh...
Naga Sadow came very close to conquering the republic given all the sith magics and assets at his disposal, but his underestimating of his opponents proed to be a fatal flaw that would prove to be his and the sith empire's downfall.
@@theliato3809 Agree in terms of overall military might, however the Sith had other avenues of conquest open to them as well as deception and theatricality working well for them, which is why despite a numerical inferiority, nearly pull off a victory.
@@wedgeantillies66 I think they were in still too bad of a position. Take into account the amount of planets they held in the Caldera Stgyia. The Sith empire that came after on the other hand used those things to their benefit as well as the lessons from that war to build up even stronger so they could directly challenge the Republic and conquer quite a bit of it.
@@theliato3809 With the benefit of hindsight, they were with limited resources and manpower vs the unlimited ones of the republic. Yet despite that still made a good fist of it and its successor state under Vitiate as you say would create a massive military empire, comprised of a normal military and sith and fleets that would give the republic the biggest challenge in its history and conquer half the galaxy before imposing a humilating peace on it.
@@tweso1499 The Mandalorians in the EU are infinitely better than the ones in canon. So, I'm hoping we get a video detailing the history and culture of the Mandalorians from the EU.
If it weren't for naga sadow, and jav and jori daragon, chancellor pultimo wouldn't have ordered the sith genocide after the republic pushed them back and great hyperspace war wouldn't have happened to begin with or at the very least it would have taken them much longer to invade the republic, eventually there technology would have became advanced enough to find another way out of sith space at least theoretically.
I always wondered, as the sith reversed engineered Rakata technology as did the republic and both civilizations would’ve technologically advance…but I wonder if sith space was more limited in doing so (due to Stygian caldera and few planets outside it), in comparison to the much greater encompassing republic of thousands of worlds (or a thousand or two at this point). They had vast different cultures and technologically advanced civilizations to trade with and mutually learn from for the betterment of technological advancements. Yet the sith were the ones to create holocrons (from Rakata), with their own spin on it as well as the first modern lightsabers..and many massive sith weapons and ships. Their armour had more exuberance than the republic coruscanti or the upper echelons of the koros system. What does anyone else think? Had sadow not exposed the empire to the republic so early, Would the sith have advanced enough to be on par with or better than the republic technologically speaking and defeat them? Vitiate was able to do so by advancing in countless worlds in the unknown regions and brought the republic to the brink of defeat
5:34 Also the first of those two Sith later appeared in SWTOR as on of the Force Ghosts that Kallig binds to themselves during the Sith Inquisitor storyline.
They were powerful, the Sith was If they joined forces they could've brought their dream of conquest and domination into reality But greed, ego, hunger, rage, and envy plagued the fragile alliances a few made Evil turns on itself
5:05 When Naga Sadow murdered Simus with one of the blasters, was this before or after Simus had his head in a jar (sith magic, still alive, yada yada) and was part of Sadow’s counsel?
This was after his head was in a jar. It was none other than marka ragnos (the dead sith who’s funeral sadow and Kressh fought each other at), who decapitated simus when he challenged Ragnos for the title of Dark Lord; then using alchemy and sith magic was when he with the help of his followers preserved his head in a jar. Rag is respected his rivals wisdom to the point that he allowed him to serve on the council as a decapitated head lol
When you cover Exar Kun and the great sith war will you cover the great hunt that took place shortly after, and sith acolyte Haayzen, before you jump to the Jedi civil war?
Oh, what I would gleefully do so to prevent Odan-Urr and Memit Nadill to ever show up and save those two worthless damnable Daragon twins. Addendum: In case anyone doesn't get it, think of yourself as Frank Carlson from Titanic: Adventure Out of Time and Homura Akemi from Puella Magi Madoka Magica.
How they are worthless? They're basically Luke and Leia 2.0, even have some incest vibes. It's a prequel to Dark Empire, so the story is kinda a tragic reversal of Luke's attempt to conquer the dark side.
Naga Sadow when he got the Sith on his side to invade the Republic, used illusions to scare Republic forces into surrendering and got one of the Daragon Siblings to be his apprentice: I'm a genius! Only to realise that he hasn't fully corrupted said Daragon, resulting in him attacking him while performing illusions which dissolves all the illusions and the rest went downhill: Oh No!
Bad time to be a Masassai. I guess we know how ultimately Storm Troopers and TIE fighters became expendable - tradition. Sadow was so close. I don’t like saying what someone ‘should have’ done, but having some redundant ship meditation spheres might’ve helped.
Do you think you can do another, sort of mini series on Star Wars Legends ships. Particularly, what I had in mind were later models of ships built to be used as successors/replacements to the classic ones we see in the original trilogy. For example, the first episode could be on shuttlecrafts used by the Imperials and Rebels/New Republic and the forces of the Republic’s successor states. The next episode would be about starfighters (those built to succeed those like Tie-Fighters, X-Wings, Y-Wings). The episode after that would be on cruisers/capital ships (Star Destroyers, Mon Cala, New Republic and post-New Republic vessels).
@@michaelandreipalon359 I have the compilations. The first one is called The Golden Age of the Sith and the other is The Fall of the Sith. I don't know how many issues are in each collection but together it's the entire story.
I'm so curious what Darth vitiate was thinking while all this was going down. I'm pretty sure he was on the sith counsel and probably thought they were all fools XD
Ajunta Pall , Karness Murr , Xoxaan, Admiral/Baron Remulus Dreypa and Sorzus Syn. Ajunta Pall is their general and leader and ex-jedi master And also the first sith lord title to be given to him. They are fallen jedi exiles.. after losing the battle of corbos battling the jedi knights during the hundred years darkness war. Exile into the unknown space until they found a primitive planet that was called Korriban.. then overthrown the sith king and became their ruler and masters to the sith natives... They want to take revenge on the jedi by learning the dark side sorcery from the natives to make a new hybrid from their blood and the sith. Experimenting and combining them to make a new breed and creating nightmarish creatures.. thus creating a new sith bloodline from the dark jedi. Naga Sadow is one of their descendants.
Gold might not be as valuable in the Star Wars galaxy as it is here on earth, since there are so many more planets where it might potentially exists and can be mined from. But you are correct. For people fleeing from "poverty", these two seem very well off. 😅
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Naga Sadow was as good in intrigue as he was good with sith sorcery. He used them to convince the sith to war and he almost won.
I guess Naga Sadow never heard about the dangers of expanding too fast, like flying too close to the sun, you end up crashing and burning.
Glad to see this series back. I have to agree with your video comparing Sith Empires from different ages, the original Sith Empire was definitely the coolest. Those illusory warships and warriors is one of the coolest abilities I’ve seen.
it also feels like an actual civilization instead of just sith fighting eachother.
“They must be precursors to an invasion, we should kill them at once!”
- Ludo Kressh
He was kinda right on this one, if they killed the Daragon twins immediately the Sith Empire would’ve likely been better off in the long run.
Honestly, was really rooting for Ludo when reading the comics. He may be evil, but at least he was good enough of an obstacle against it.
Totally agree Ludo Kressh all the way...
And his viewpoint is probably due to how the Rakata invaded the Sith by pretending to be friends but then attacking when that failed. I think for that time Kressh didn't want to take any chances
Idk I think the Sith Empire would have stagnated due to having no one to conquer. Kressh might have been right but I don’t think his conservative viewpoint would have helped the Sith in the long run.
@@legogandalf5453 what’s the point of power if you basically have all of it
As much as I am not a fan of following traditions, I would prefer Ludo Kressh because he knows that fighting a battle one cannot win is not only futile but also foolish. If the Sith Empire remained in hiding from the Republic's sight, it could have propspered for the longer period of time.
Not really if the Sith pulled themselves together. If they had taken their time to build up a greater force and not fallen into infighting, they would have won.
He great hyperspace war was extremely dark gritty and brutal
Aren't all Star Wars, well, wars that?
I would love to see movies based on this era over the crap that we've been getting
@@66bloodmoon A traditionally animated series would suffice, so to feel well paced and also look like the old comics themselves.
@@michaelandreipalon359 that would be Soo eep, I would love it
@@michaelandreipalon359 nope Disney star wars is lighthearted family friendly and comedy
it's a shame that this story hasn't found it's way to the bog or small screens. Because I'm sure it would be an awesome watch for all involved.
Stop asking for it to be on big screen Disney will destroy those stories and turned it into a joke
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 I don't even they would make the sith it own special if they were brought it into conan. They would likely have them be all humans.
Now that was a Great Comic Book.
True, and it sure is a travesty people are more exposed to that sorry miniseries of the same name.
Has some weird flaws, though, like somewhat old art and the occasional rushed story beats.
Well technically the Daragons did have SOME training before they gave up the Jedi way. And they had assassins after their heads, not bounty hunters
Exactly and they were slightly proficient with lightsabers as they were technically Jedi initiates for a short time
@@rixdjemso9926 Or rather protosabers (remember back in the day they had to be literally plugged to power packs on the belt or worn as a backpack) but yes.
@@MrWill9002 It would have been cool if Odan-Urr and his fellow Jedi used shields to block blaster bolts because of the Protosabers limiting their flexibility.
@@muhdaqeel7330 They have to focus on the fighting and making sure their cables aren't cut otherwise the protosaber's useless
Sith illusions vanish
Sith soldier: Wait what!?
Republic soldier: Well. Looks like your army wasn't as large as we thought. Men (readies a blaster).
Sith soldier: Uh-oh...
Naga's mistake: No espionage, no planing. Had he tried what Vitiate did, he might have won
Who else find it strange that for a space faring civilization the republic still looked like it's in pre-space fuedel age
Naga Sadow came very close to conquering the republic given all the sith magics and assets at his disposal, but his underestimating of his opponents proed to be a fatal flaw that would prove to be his and the sith empire's downfall.
at the time I think the sith empire was still too small to conquer the republic
@@theliato3809 Agree in terms of overall military might, however the Sith had other avenues of conquest open to them as well as deception and theatricality working well for them, which is why despite a numerical inferiority, nearly pull off a victory.
@@wedgeantillies66 I think they were in still too bad of a position. Take into account the amount of planets they held in the Caldera Stgyia.
The Sith empire that came after on the other hand used those things to their benefit as well as the lessons from that war to build up even stronger so they could directly challenge the Republic and conquer quite a bit of it.
@@theliato3809 With the benefit of hindsight, they were with limited resources and manpower vs the unlimited ones of the republic. Yet despite that still made a good fist of it and its successor state under Vitiate as you say would create a massive military empire, comprised of a normal military and sith and fleets that would give the republic the biggest challenge in its history and conquer half the galaxy before imposing a humilating peace on it.
Yay, cant wait for more sith history, hopefully we get jedi history after that as well
And after that the Mandalorians
@@tweso1499 The Mandalorians in the EU are infinitely better than the ones in canon. So, I'm hoping we get a video detailing the history and culture of the Mandalorians from the EU.
If it weren't for naga sadow, and jav and jori daragon, chancellor pultimo wouldn't have ordered the sith genocide after the republic pushed them back and great hyperspace war wouldn't have happened to begin with or at the very least it would have taken them much longer to invade the republic, eventually there technology would have became advanced enough to find another way out of sith space at least theoretically.
I always wondered, as the sith reversed engineered Rakata technology as did the republic and both civilizations would’ve technologically advance…but I wonder if sith space was more limited in doing so (due to Stygian caldera and few planets outside it), in comparison to the much greater encompassing republic of thousands of worlds (or a thousand or two at this point). They had vast different cultures and technologically advanced civilizations to trade with and mutually learn from for the betterment of technological advancements.
Yet the sith were the ones to create holocrons (from Rakata), with their own spin on it as well as the first modern lightsabers..and many massive sith weapons and ships. Their armour had more exuberance than the republic coruscanti or the upper echelons of the koros system. What does anyone else think? Had sadow not exposed the empire to the republic so early, Would the sith have advanced enough to be on par with or better than the republic technologically speaking and defeat them? Vitiate was able to do so by advancing in countless worlds in the unknown regions and brought the republic to the brink of defeat
@@rixdjemso9926 leading to the treaty of coruscant and the cold war.
I was literally looking up videos about the Great Hyperspace War earlier today before this was posted. What a Coinkydink!
5:34 Also the first of those two Sith later appeared in SWTOR as on of the Force Ghosts that Kallig binds to themselves during the Sith Inquisitor storyline.
I love this series!
They were powerful, the Sith was
If they joined forces they could've brought their dream of conquest and domination into reality
But greed, ego, hunger, rage, and envy plagued the fragile alliances a few made
Evil turns on itself
5:05 When Naga Sadow murdered Simus with one of the blasters, was this before or after Simus had his head in a jar (sith magic, still alive, yada yada) and was part of Sadow’s counsel?
This was after his head was in a jar. It was none other than marka ragnos (the dead sith who’s funeral sadow and Kressh fought each other at), who decapitated simus when he challenged Ragnos for the title of Dark Lord; then using alchemy and sith magic was when he with the help of his followers preserved his head in a jar. Rag is respected his rivals wisdom to the point that he allowed him to serve on the council as a decapitated head lol
Ragnos (not rag is).
@@rixdjemso9926 thanks for the clarification. I always get Marka Ragnos and Naga Sadow mixed up for some reason
@@rixdjemso9926 Sounds like Mimir from God of War.
Ah yes, when a wrong turn and rest stop led to 25,000 years of intergalactic war between two cults lol
More like 4000 lol
The Senate changed history by saying “I am the Senate!”
Amazing series g
Part 4? Please 🙏
When you cover Exar Kun and the great sith war will you cover the great hunt that took place shortly after, and sith acolyte Haayzen, before you jump to the Jedi civil war?
Kresh looks like a Ballchinian
I'd side with Ludo because I feel Naga was too hasty and overconfident.
Oh, what I would gleefully do so to prevent Odan-Urr and Memit Nadill to ever show up and save those two worthless damnable Daragon twins.
Addendum: In case anyone doesn't get it, think of yourself as Frank Carlson from Titanic: Adventure Out of Time and Homura Akemi from Puella Magi Madoka Magica.
How they are worthless? They're basically Luke and Leia 2.0, even have some incest vibes. It's a prequel to Dark Empire, so the story is kinda a tragic reversal of Luke's attempt to conquer the dark side.
@@Hello-bi1pm Anyone who shifted the fabric of history into an unstable front is rendered useless automatically.
Thanks for great content.
Naga Sadow when he got the Sith on his side to invade the Republic, used illusions to scare Republic forces into surrendering and got one of the Daragon Siblings to be his apprentice: I'm a genius!
Only to realise that he hasn't fully corrupted said Daragon, resulting in him attacking him while performing illusions which dissolves all the illusions and the rest went downhill: Oh No!
Bad time to be a Masassai. I guess we know how ultimately Storm Troopers and TIE fighters became expendable - tradition.
Sadow was so close. I don’t like saying what someone ‘should have’ done, but having some redundant ship meditation spheres might’ve helped.
If I were a Sith lord, I'd have stayed neutral and let the Sith tear each other apart, then move in and claimed what was left.
Vitiate pretty much did that.
@lisboah True. Smart man
Naga Sadow: **stages false flag attack to justify expansionist wars*
G. W. Bush: "Well done my young apprentice."
Giving me Annunaki Enki and Enlil vibes.
Do you think you can do another, sort of mini series on Star Wars Legends ships. Particularly, what I had in mind were later models of ships built to be used as successors/replacements to the classic ones we see in the original trilogy. For example, the first episode could be on shuttlecrafts used by the Imperials and Rebels/New Republic and the forces of the Republic’s successor states. The next episode would be about starfighters (those built to succeed those like Tie-Fighters, X-Wings, Y-Wings). The episode after that would be on cruisers/capital ships (Star Destroyers, Mon Cala, New Republic and post-New Republic vessels).
Great comic series. I have both volumes and they are more than worth a read.
Both volumes? Aren't there more than two, unless this is a specific omnibus?
@@michaelandreipalon359 I have the compilations. The first one is called The Golden Age of the Sith and the other is The Fall of the Sith. I don't know how many issues are in each collection but together it's the entire story.
@@dtdimeflicks6708 Ah, the 2007-2007 Omnibuses. That explains it.
Nice episode, good work.
I'm so curious what Darth vitiate was thinking while all this was going down. I'm pretty sure he was on the sith counsel and probably thought they were all fools XD
There are no mistakes. There is only "The Will of The Force".
Tbf the republic was going to discover the planet one way or another. So the hyperspace war was destined to happen.
Where is #4 freedon nadd please! Or the lost tribe or the mecrosa order coming to prominence
I would love an rpg set during the great hyperspace war.
IS there a website or an app to read these comics?
Who was the first dark jedi to arrive at the sith world?
Ajunta Pall , Karness Murr , Xoxaan, Admiral/Baron Remulus Dreypa and Sorzus Syn. Ajunta Pall is their general and leader and ex-jedi master And also the first sith lord title to be given to him. They are fallen jedi exiles.. after losing the battle of corbos battling the jedi knights during the hundred years darkness war. Exile into the unknown space until they found a primitive planet that was called Korriban.. then overthrown the sith king and became their ruler and masters to the sith natives... They want to take revenge on the jedi by learning the dark side sorcery from the natives to make a new hybrid from their blood and the sith. Experimenting and combining them to make a new breed and creating nightmarish creatures.. thus creating a new sith bloodline from the dark jedi. Naga Sadow is one of their descendants.
There is no part 4 of the sith history playlist
Hi, I'm curious about the soundtrack of the begining, do you have the name of the track? Thanks
The Daragons fled poverty... in their golden jewelry and fine togas? How rich are the wealthy people on their world?
Gold might not be as valuable in the Star Wars galaxy as it is here on earth, since there are so many more planets where it might potentially exists and can be mined from. But you are correct. For people fleeing from "poverty", these two seem very well off. 😅
The twins story
Where is part 4
Kresh was right
I support Ludo Kressh
Cool👍
Yes cool
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