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A mythic and emotionally charged hero’s journey, “Dune” tells the story of Paul Atreides, a brilliant and gifted young man born into a great destiny beyond his understanding, who must travel to the most dangerous planet in the universe to ensure the future of his family and his people. As malevolent forces explode into conflict over the planet’s exclusive supply of the most precious resource in existence-a commodity capable of unlocking humanity’s greatest potential-only those who can conquer their fear will survive.
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The novel Dune was published in 1965. George Lucas was heavily inspired by Dune when he created Star Wars.
I read he was also heavily inspired by space Battleship Yamato...
@@Tommieboy2009 Yes, he was inspired by a lot Japanese IP like anime and Samurai films as well.
@@Tommieboy2009 yes Lucas was inspired to make Star wars from several different sources but Dune was his heaviest influence by far
@@dall1786 dune was not the heaviest, on the contrary it was inspired MOSTLY by the Foundation by Isaac Asimov - 1942
@@houseofaction How? Foundation is not even vaguely similar to Star Wars.
The reason for the “low” numbers was that it was during Covid and it also released on HBO Max the same day as theaters
i paid for a month just to watch the movie!
@@craiglortie8483 Same. Cancelled my autopay immediately after watching Dune and checking out their catalog 🤣
I'll be interested in the box office numbers for part 2 in Nov., I'm hoping for double or better. Also the table setting and world building is far less in part 2, so it should be a much more action driven film. I just want to hear Alia say "And how can this be? For he is the Kiwzats Haderach!"
I went just for the theatre experience and when the orinithopters take off you can feel the pulsing of the wing beats right through your chest.
@@robovike I'm betting the second part makes over a billion dollars easy. If they're smart they re-release this one back into the theaters before the second part drops. This movie was made for the theater experience.
Paul is prescient. He doesn't just see the future. He sees all possible futures.
Yup, that's his biggest problem.
@@richardgoddard37 It's the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics. All possible futures exist in a 'probability matrix' until they collapse into one.
It is not the many-worlds interpretation or the now-discredited and massive waste of time and energy string theory interpretation.
@@squamish4244 String theory is not an interpretation, nor is it discredited. Please polish up your quantum physics before commenting:)
@@boristurovskiy351 I suggest you do. Before commenting:)
@@squamish4244 I'm pretty sure, judging by your comment, that my knowledge of quantum physics, while nowhere near cutting-edge, is way ahead of yours. But let's debate;)
Dune was so ahead of its time because YES, it is a classic “hero’s journey” story but also a warning AGAINST heroes at the same time. Mind blowing!
Yep, and Paul really isn’t a hero. He and his mother took advantage of the Fremen to exact his revenge. They used the ‘prophesy’ planted by the Bene Gesserit and leaned into the messiah nonsense. Paul knew that one of the paths he was seeing as the Kwisatz Haderach was a “holy war in my name”, and he was arrogant enough to think he could choose that path yet avoid the bloodshed that followed. Not to mention that he was too much of a coward to do what was necessary to ensure humanities survival long term, and left that for his son to deal with. Anything more would be too many spoilers. 😂
Yep, a charismatic character is not always a good leader. Frank Herbert is a legend.
"Charismatic Leaders should come with warning label; May be hazardous to your health."
@@Elios0000 YES! 👍
@@Elios0000 on the spot, great man
Jessica was not trying to produce the "One" (the Kwisatz Haderach). She disobeyed the Bene Gesserit order to have daughters because she was in love with Leto and wanted to give him a male heir.
A very important part of their relationship that was lost.
Exactly. Because they’re offspring was supposed to be a girl, then have a child with Feud Ratha
True but the problem with that is the bene gesserit have become to full of themselves with their breeding program that it backfired not anticipating Jessica falling in love with Leto and actually going against them it also put them in a very tight situation because Paul was born directly in a dukes house so he was highly protected and since Leto only had Paul at the time he was even more fiercely protective. They wanted someone to control not realising the reverend mother made 1 big mistake in wiping house artredies from the map they helped create Paul whose bloodline in the end would save everyone thanks to his son they couldn’t control Paul thanks to Jessica. Eventually Leto the 2nd takes the breeding program away from them.
It's the other way around. Dune came out before and it was one of the books that inspired George Lucas to do Star Wars. Desert planet, spice harvesting, a galactic empire, quasi-religious orders with mind powers, giant worms, indigenous desert people swathed in robes who are at odds with the off-world colonizers, sword fights, etc. Not accidental. Lucas just focused on a less dense and political story in favor of paying homage to adventure serials in the mold of Flash Gordon, but many of the same themes that are present in Dune are also present in Star Wars.
As for the lack of guns, technology has evolved to the point where those force field shields they use can block any bullet or projectile, and if you shoot one of them with a laser it creates a mini nuclear explosion that would kill everybody in proximity, so basically technology advanced so much that it forced warriors to go back to swords because it's the only way to get through the shields they use when engaging in personal combat. A normal gun would be useless and a laser gun would kill the target and the shooter and a bunch of bystanders.
Jabba the Hutt too.
Melee combat, sandcrawlers, the jedi, the force, the emperor, i could go on for days.
"I'm will try hard to not sue." -Frank Herbert
Drugs in the star wars universe are literally called "spice" lmao
I luv that you know what you are talking about, you've obviously read the books. Great info 😁
Going off your technology point, for those who don’t know: In the Dune universe, AI and tech had advanced to the point that people started using these “thinking machines” to wage absolute destruction on others. There was a Great Revolt known as the Butlerian Jihad during which all of these AI, robots, thinking machines, etc were destroyed.
After this, no more machines could be made “in the likeness of a human mind.”
So humanity had to develop human skills to replace the tech. That’s why the Bene Gesserit, Mentats (which is what Hawat is), and others can do what they do. For millennia these skills were cultivated. So that’s why there’s this perfect blend of old school tech and super futuristic. All the machines are very simple in what they do and are nothing like computers we have today.
I’m a huge fan of this movie and am currently re-reading the first book so I just wanted to share! ❤
the phrase the mother was saying
"I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past, I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain."
Litany against fear. They need to read the books.
One of my favorite phrases in Dune. Just such a powerful mantra.
Trust me, in the cinema, you would have heard every word she says. And everything else too, the sound was incredible.
When Shadout Mapes asked Jessica if she knew the meaning of the crysknife, Jessica didn’t know quite what the right answer was, so she decided to answer with the translation of the Chakobsa (Fremen language) word “crysknife” into English-“maker of death.” But she got no further than the first word before Mapes shrieked in religious ecstasy, because the knife was a tooth of Shai-hulud, the giant sandworm, known to the Fremen as a “maker.”
Jessica was fumbling, but Mapes thought she was speaking more deeply than the surface conversation-indicating she had knowledge no offworlder could know, knowledge revealed through spiritual insight, which marked Jessica as a prophetess, and thus, truly the Lisan Al-Ghaib.
"Fear is the mindkiller"
She was praying that Paul would survive while trying not to be scared shitless. She knew what was happening.
37:40 It is not Paul’s voice that the Emperor fears it is his father Duke Leto.
Leto is an honorable and charismatic leader. Also his personal army has become so powerful in warfare to be able to fight the Emperor’s Sardaukar troops on an even playing field. So yeah the Emperor is really really jealous of them.
But there are people in the shadows pulling the strings of the Emperor.
At the same time, the Harkonnens have become extremely wealthy from controlling the spice supply for 80 years, so they're also a danger to the emperor. This war cost the Harkonnens a ton of money, which also weakens them, which benefits the emperor. The emperor is a real schemer and plays his enemies against each other.
4:23 The old guy who is good at math is Thufir Hawat. He is a Mentat which is a human conditioned to operate like a super computer. He has served House Atreides since the time of Duke Leto’s father Paulus Atreides.
Thufir is like a surrogate grandfather to Paul. Not covered in the movie is the fact that Paul has the potential to be a Mentat as well.
Yeah, because AI and computers are banned, so they needed specially trained humans (Mentats, as you mentioned) to do a computer's work. This is also why spice is so important: humans are calculating the routes of spaceships between the stars and spice helps them to "see" the right way, without spice a lot of ships ended up in the middle of a star for example. Meanwhile the amount of spice they use changes them totally, almost becoming alien-like, so they are wearing those head-bubbles in this movie (you can see the spice mist inside).
@@NephinPlaysGames - Exactly. And it's a shame Dennis's version of Dune didn't go into too much explanation as David Lynch's 1984 version of Dune which actually showed a 3rd Stage Guild Navigator that had been mutated from too much spice consumption into a worm-like slug being floating in a chamber of spice gas because he can no longer breathe regular air. I'm guessing that when they showed the scene with the Herald of the Change approach Duke Leito about his new position on Dune that the Herald's entourage in those gold face plate helmets were Guild Navigators who had started to mutate.
@@clit_niblr0375 He probably saves Guild Navigators for Messiah (hope Warner Bros will green light it after part 2).
George Lucas himself has said he was heavily inspired by dune to create Star Wars.
Dune as about 12 years older than a new hope.
no he never said heavily he listed as one of his inpsirations the foundation by Isaac Asimov - 1942 is his main inspiration but he is also inspired by flash gordan and shows like this. there are no space journeys in the foundation and dune
Stop making stuff up he wasn't heavily inspired
The reason why it was hard to understand Jessica in the scene with Paul putting his hand in the box is quite obvious - she knew the risks, she was concerned about her son's life (and the impact that would have on Leto, the father), coupled with the fact that she knew she defied the leaders of her order, that had plans spanning literal millennia. It's a perfect display of extreme emotional duress, when one moment can make or break your whole life. Damn straight, you wouldn't be able to talk properly.
And she's also talking to herself lol. No reason for her to enunciate like a lecture.
She swallowed her lines through the whole film. It was an aggravating performance.
Yeah, except there are ways to make someone be heard in the film without all this mumble nonsense. It's like how film makers nowadays are obsessed with making all their films and tv shows dark and difficult to watch. Jane made a really good point with Game of Thrones and House of the Dragons. There are several episodes where the audience can't see anything because it is so extremely dark. There are entire RUclips videos criticizing the lighting on those shows. It's like why even bother filming if the audience can't see your work?
I understood that, but I also have to say that the depiction of Jessica, including this scene, in the movie was pretty much my only criticism. The audience really didn't get a good feel for the duality of her character, being both a concubine and mother as well as Bene Gesserit. Yes it was mentioned, almost in passing, but IMO the significance of it wasn't clear to those who don't know the source material. We got to see a lot of her as the emotional mother, but too little of her calm, cold, calculating, Bene Gesserit side.
Plus there's always the option of just having the subtitles on
This *NEEDED* to be seen in Theatres. The soundscape alone is enough to set this movie apart, I’m so glad I didn’t have to watch it on home release. It’s the only movie that threw me out of my seat in the action, and physically pushed me back into it with the wall of sound you got on the wide shots.
The first time Paul used the voice, it felt like an earthquake was hitting the movie theater.
I'm so glad I got to see this in IMAX when it first came out (and so hope they rerelease it in IMAX before Part Two). A masterclass in filmmaking on every level.
You guys should've watched with the captions on to make sure you didn't miss anything in the dialogue.
Most people that are fans of the book. (1965) aren't really fans of the 1984 film. They changed too much.
But they are big fans of this movie.
Exactly
43:40 Practically nobody uses guns because bullets would bounce of the personal shields. In the book it was explained that if a laser is used directly against a shields it sets off a small nuclear explosion.
So everyone has to go back to melee fighting since a well place knife or sword can be slowly pressed through the shields.
Christopher Walken is going to play the Emperor in Part 2
I was hoping for Charles Dance, but Megatron will do.
@@BlackEpyon I'm glad I'm not the only one who really thought Charles Dance would have been literally perfect for playing the Emperor. Him as Tywin Lannister was amazing on its own.
@@Infrared01 The Emperor didn't have a whole lot of dialog in the book though, so I wonder if they're going to give him more, like in the other movies.
Okay, that's my bad. Frank Welker voiced Megatron. I don't know why I thought Christopher Walken. Maybe because their last names are similar.
@@BlackEpyon I'm from the future and can say while Walken didn't get much screen time, I thought he played it well and portrayed the level of power I imagined in the book. I feel like Charles Dance would've come off too powerful and intelligent and honestly, the Emperor in dune is kind of a fuckin idiot who causes his own demise.
19:12 Duncan Idaho (Jason Momoa) has been with the Atreides since he was a young child. He used to tend to the bulls that Duke Leto’s father Paulus used to fight.
When Paulus died, Leto outlawed bullfighting. He then made Duncan his ward and groomed him to be a soldier in the Atreides army and part of his inner circle.
Duncan’s talent for sword fighting is so awesome because Leto sent him to the Ginaz school. He and Gurney are probably the finest swordsman in the Empire.
With Gurney and Duncan as his fight instructors, his mom teaching him the Bene Gesserit ways and Thufir grooming him to be a Mentat, Paul is already one of the deadliest hand to hand fighters in the known universe. The fight at the end of the movie was the first time he ever had to actually use those skills.
The general audience is in dire need of this picture of Paul to understand how he’s capable of becoming who he eventually becomes. I hope they delve deeper into this info in part 2
These are just a very few of the awesome details that non-readers of the books would unfortunately never get to appreciate.
well finest swordsmen outside of the bene gesserit, the BG are the finest warriors in the imperium. because of thei rabilities with the other memory and the Prana Bindu
@@houseofaction Good points
Paul is not just a good fighter. He has been not only trained by Duncan and Gurney, 2 of the best fighters in the known universe, but also trained by his mom in the Bene Gesserit fighting style “the weirding way” (that’s how Jessica defeated Stilgar).
Just a FYI, Dune (the book) inspired the modern age sci fi stories, movies, like Star wars for instance. Frank Herbert, the writer of Dune can be called the father of Space Opera. You guys should check out Dune books, all of them. They are fantastic.
All of them? That requires quite the commitment. You need to be prepared!
@@pee-buddy LOL that's right. Well I think the original 6 will do just fine.
Debatable on the Space Opera side.
Dune, like Foundation, is set in a Galactic Empire but our protagonist(s) don't go around having space adventures.
Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers defined Space Opera on screen, which Star Wars takes from much more directly than from Dune. Especially considering Dune's galactic framework is political and comes from Foundation.
the foundation by Isaac Asimov predates Dune and is also a space opera. which is really the main inspiration for star wars
@@yodieyuh exactly people incorrectly say that George stole from Dune when in reality his main inspiration was actually the foundation by Isaac Asimov - 1942.
people incorrectly state the Bene Gesserit are the inspiration of the Jedi and i always ask them, HOW? the BG don't have TK don't have legit telepathic abilities outside of the other memory and the voice, they are warriors like the jedi and the BG have nothing comparable to the force.
It felt incredibly unfinished because this is only part way through the book of Dune. It was the best break point in the story since at this point in the book it jumps forward 2 years.
That doesn't happen til after the water of life scene but I understand what U mean just wanna clarify
They had screenings with two endings for part one, one was the fight with Jamis and the other was the water of life scene. They decided the fight was a good way to leave it on a cliffhanger for part two.
@Ryan Hampson goddamm I wish the water of life was in just so I could see it sooner but, it will come!
@@Bog_DogI'm happy they saved it for part 2 cause God damn it made for an epic climax
You may have been able to hear what Jessica was saying better with both earbuds in. Y’all are sharing a right and left earbud. The mix you were listening to is either in surround or stereo. One of you is listening to that particular part of the mix on the right, and the other is listening to the left portion of the mix.
I don't think they cared one way or another. Seemed completely distracted..... Too busy misinterpreting everything....... From Box office numbers during the Pandemic. And what came 1st.........
@@donny1960 As always with most reactors.
Important Dialog: Huh? Wha? She cant talk!
Random usual explosion in the background: OMG! AWESOME! WOW!
It actually is unwatchable these days.
@@RetroGamingSweden I've seen them do great reactions...... She just was not into this. But most who watch are here for the experience of them reacting to the specific movie. If that is a bust. The video is a bust. But still no excuse for was presented this time.
@@donny1960 Indeed!
I am sure they have made great content earlier. I've seen some of the works. But when it comes to an OMG to something you see daily vs *not even a blink* to the dialogs that carry so much meaning and depth as this movie has (basically all dialogs is beyond epic) then it just all falls apart.
Sadly it's become a trend.
Hopefully it goes away soon.
Tbf if this is your first intro to Dune, I can understand getting confused. The lore is dense, the terminology is completely unique to this universe, and despite Denis doing a great job of making it accessible, this isn't a simple story.
They can't user lasers all over the place since if a laser beam connects with a shield, it create a feedback loop which results in a nuclear explosion at the site of the shield and the source of the laser beam.
10191 is after the creation of the Spacing Guild which gets created about 15 000 from now, so technically the movie happens in about 25 000 years give or take.
The cigare ships are folding space to transport smaller ships from one planet to another. They are from the Spacing Guild. (quite the monopoly on space transportation)
Jessica had a son also because she loved Leto and wanted to give him a proper heir instead of giving him a daughter that would have been wed to a Harkonnen... (that was the Bene Gesserit plan initially)
Ornithopter concept was tried IRL in the 1920-30s by a French engineer. However, the result was quite bad, the wings weren't strong enough to support the craft in a fast wing movement required for sustentation (tried in a wind tunnel) and as the war was drawing nearer and nearer and the country needed really working aircraft, the experiment was dropped.
Dune has a Arabo-Persiano-Hinduist dominated world building with remains of Christianity.
On a planet were humidity is very rare, giving up your saliva is an honorable gesture.
The Sardaukar planet, Saluza Secundus is a planerary gulag. Sardaukar are prisoners trained into fanatic troops for the Emperor. Here the Emperor lends some batallions to the Harkonnens to help them against the Atreides because Harkonnens are quite poor at hand to hand combat and the Atreides are amongst the best in the domain (with the Fremen that is)
On Arrakis, there are different populations, Fremen are only one of them. The others are merchants, mercenaries and regular villagers, some of them are pilgrims wanting to honor the Great Worm: Shaï Hulud. Fun fact, Fremen paid the Guild to not disclose their location via satellites. So the Harkonnen vastly underestimate the numbers of Fremen really present on Arrakis. Instead of estimated 15 000, they are in fact about 15 millions !
Leto isn't married to Jessica because he was supposed to wed with the Emperor's elder daughter, Princess Irulan. Jessica was only a concubine.
The shields were designed primarily against energy weapons (triggers a nuclear explosion that could damage the attackers as well as the defenders). Then the hand to hnd combat doctrine was developped around it.
Harkonnens used old fashion mortal artillery to dispose of the Atreides frigates, mortal shells are too slow and too dense to be deviated by the shield, they just lose kinetic energy until they can enter the shield and blow inside it (explosion is high energy meaning that the shield stays up and confines the explosion until the shield generator itself is destroyed, making it more powerful as a result).
Harkonnens have their own mining equipment that they took with them when they left. What the Atreides used was old leftovers from before the Harkonnens, a century prior. Outdated equipement, out of maintenance.
The Voice earned the Bene Gesserit the slur of "Witches", their mental abilities are also able to make them absorb and assimilate any poison without effects, control their biology to bear only daughters, even controlling their ageing but they don't use that ability since it would make them next to immortal and a priority target for everyone instead of controlling things from the shadows like the long term campers they are. Bene Gesserit also learn the art of analysing body and face language to tell the other's intents and they know how to fight.
The Atreides were gaining support from the minor Houses of the Landsraad. The Emperor, fearing to lose his power made a deal with the Harkonnens to wipe out the Atreides by faking a change of leadership on Arrakis, puting the Atreides to replace the Harkonnens. The Emperor hoped to get rid of the Atreides and weaken the Harknonnens because mounting that reatking invasion cost a lot of money and the Baron had to sell his stocks on the CHOAM market. On the other hand the Harkonnens thought they could use the Emperor's help and later on blackmail him by revealing he hmounted the whole thing himself, helping the Harkonnens gaining the Imperial throne. The Atreides were conscious of all that. They mounted a separate raid on the Harkonnens's Spice silos on Geidi Prime to prevent them to gain money selling all their reserves and tried to make friends with the Fremen instead of slaughtering them, making friends to secure influence and stability, which was ultimately a smart move.
The Baron floats with anti grav inductors in his back, he's too lazy and too fat to walk himself. He's also a dirty pervert.
Blue eyes come with the body being saturated by Spice. Fremen use Spice in practically every aspect of their lives, tea, coffee, pastries, furniture and house gear and religious practices. The Imperial elites use it for their health and longevity. Navigators use ot to gain foresight to calculate hyperspace trajectories (elaborate computers and AI were religiously banned 10 000 years prior so everywone have been focusing in improving their mental abilities such as the Mentats, like the guy with the back lip rolling his eyes)
Duncan finding them is not on luck, they had a beacon provided by the doctor.
The Emperor doesn(t show up until the end of part 2.
Sandwalk wouldn't get you anywhere fast, Fremen use Worms by hooking on them to prevent them to go down into the sand and travel faster.
Storms are going 800 km/h, all that sand that fast will do some serious damage.
why do so many people use incorrect dates, while it is in the year 10,191 AG, the spacing guild was NOT created 15,000 years from now. the year 1 AG(after guild) was in the year 13,000 AD or 10,977 years from the year 2023 or 11,035 years into frank herberts future(1965) so to be exact if we were using our regular callender dune would be set in the year 23,191 AD(in the year of our lord)/CE(common era)
as for house Atreides skills yes they are the finest warriors in the empire OUTSIDE OF THE BENE GESSERIT because they are actually SKILLED.
the Sardaukar and Fremen are both deadly warriors because of the inhospital worlds they come from, Salusa Secundus for the Sardaukar and Arakkis for the Fremen, the Sardaukar and Fremen were not really that skilled as warriors, they just grew up on harsh planets so they were HARDENED.
what set the Atreides apart was that they were trained by legitimate sword masters in Idaho and Gurney who were the finest swordsmen outside of the Bene Gesserit order.
when Paul begins to teach the Fremen the weirding ways they become a fully attuned military with skill surpassing all but the Bene Gesserit
the bene gesserit can't absorb poisons they can use the prana bindu technqiues to purify poisons but they can't just absorb it
Nominated for 10 Oscars including Best Picture but won for
Best Sound (Mixing and Editing)
Best Original Score
Best Visual Effects
Best Costume Design
Best Production Design
Best Cinematography.
Dune is not about heroes or villians is about power, ambition, control, opressors, lies but also a beautiful story about nature, ecosystem, religion and human struggles.
Well said
Dune:
One of the few well put together Heroes journey that twist & dissfigures the genre in an impactful & life changing way.
This came out about 20 years before Star Wars. They don't show this in the movie, but in the books they tell about a war against computers and thinking machines that happened thousands of years before the events here. So they can't use any computers or thinking machines. Instead, they focused on developing abilities of people to replace computers.
The first book, Dune, came out in 1965, 12 years before Star Wars. But if you count the time it takes to plan write a script etc it basically means a Lucas starting writing Star Wars as soon as he read it
@@bw5708 Good point, I was way off. I should have looked it up!
@@bw5708 "... my father was a navigator in a spice freighter!"
"Not quite, silly boy."
it was one of the insprations for specific narrative formats but the foundation that came out in 1942 was the true inspiration
@@houseofaction The Foundation was amazing. I generally don't wish I could go back to high school when I read my classic sci-fi, but I would love to experience that for the first time again. Asimov was a genius.
"Atreides" is a name from greek mythology actually(Ατρείδες) and it meant "sons of Atreas" a mythological king. Of course that's the only connection to greek mythology but it might help remember the name of the house 😊
the connection runs deep, House Atreides specifically claimed descent from King Agamemnon
Dune was first published in 1965 serialized in the precursor to Analog magazine.
Lasers : can’t use lasers with personal shields. Sets up a feedback look leading to a huge explosion.
Worms: eat everything but mostly sand plankton.
Fun fact about this movie: Most actor were underpaid yet all were very happy to play a role in as they deeply appreciate and respect the director (Denis Villeneuve) and the possibility of this saga to basically be the next LotR
In the lore, the invention of the shield is what makes projectile weapons (guns and bombs) obsolete. An added plot device is also included that using energy/laser weapons against shields is so explosively catastrophic that no one uses them either. Hence humanity has reverted back to hand to hand combat when their armies meet as 'the slow blade penetrates the shield'.
Even though the year is 10191 the story actually takes place around 20,000 years from now. I believe 10191 refers to the number of years after the Butlerian jihad where humans were forces to destroy all AI or risk the AI destroying humanity.
It’s 10191 AG, or ‘After Guild’. It refers to the number of years since the inception of the Spacing Guild.
@@jcs1025 💯
year 1 AG(AFTER GUILD) is exactly the year 13,000 AD so 13,000 plus 10,191. this means that this series would be in the year 23,191 AD/CE so it would be 21,168 years into OUR FUTURE but 21,226 years into FRANK HERBERTS future
@@busimagen the butlerian jihad took place 200 BG,
Adrien Venport created the Foldspace shipping company in 88 BG, before the guild calender the empire used our modern calender, in the year 13,000 AD the Foldspace Shipping company changed its name to Spacing Guild, and officially monopized space commerce, Transport and interplanatary banking, they than established a more uniform an orderly intersteller travel and finance, as well as the imposing of the restrictions of the Guild Peace, which began the Guilt calaender, so the year 13,000 AD officially became the year 1 AG Dune, Terminology of the Imperium: GUILD
this same year AFTER the monopoly created by the Spacing Guild, CHAOM is formed from Combined Mercantiles,a former subsidary of VenHold and begins rising to become a major conglomerate in the Empire. and VenHold itself was only created in about 4BG not 80 years after the Butlerian Jihad but about 196 years
37:40 - the Emperor wasn't afraid of Paul (he most likely had no idea about the prophecy). He was afraid of Paul's father, Leto. Leto was becoming too popular and competent and the Emperor was afraid he might try to take the throne. This whole plot was to kill Leto.
Star Wars has actually taken inspiration from Dune, the novel came out in 1965
Jane should definitely get to choose a movie a week. So many of the best (and most popular) reactions is when the reactor gets put through a media genre they wouldn’t personally seek. Like Hip Hop or Heavy Metal artists listening to classical music. The sweet and very nervous Popcorn In Bed woman sheltering behind her hands while she watches classic action, serial killer, spy and horror movies because her viewers recommended them. A big streak of reactions is male reactors watching the Bridgerton series, and discovering they are totally absorbed and invested in love stories and family drama in fairytale costuming.
If Jane gets dragged through superhero and SF movies, damn straight Justin should be the interesting reactor for once by watching movies against his type. I’m going to subscribe to check out if the Harry Potter interviews happen.
Glad you liked it!
Indeed, the story is quite compelling but worldbuilding needs its time, and they stayed pretty close to the original story and scenes of the book. Some details were omitted, but that's unavoidable when adapting such a lore-heavy book.
As to give you some info on the lore and politics of the Duniverse, so it becomes a bit more clear:
You have 4 major powerblocks in this universe:
1)The Emperor (and his army, the Sardaukar)
2)The Landsraad, consisting of a dozen Great Houses (and many Minor Houses, all vying for power). Think Game-of-Thrones here, but in sci-fi setting. ;-)
3)The Bene Gesserit; a semi-religious Order of women whom have certain powers (like the Voice, or being a Truthsayer, and some others not shown yet) and exert a lot of behind-the-scenes influence, but mostly stay low-profile
4) The Guild Navigators and CHOAM; a strong mercantile power, with a monopoly on spacetravel
It was more or less explained in the beginnings when Paul talked with his dad on Caladan: House Atreides is a growing power, politically and military, and the Emperor feels threatened. But he can't directly attack the House, because otherwise the Landsraad (the ensemble of Great Houses) will turn against him. As said, they each constitute a "big power" in this Duniverse. So the Landsraad and the Emperor keep each other in check, as it were.
Meanwhile, the Bene Gesserit are working from the shadows, on both sides - they primarily are concerned with their own plans and devices, to create the Kwizatsh Haderach. They manipulate from the shadows and actually form the third great power in this universe, but seldom show it openly. They also exert power by political marriages, or become concubines for political advantages - which is why Jessica wasn't married to Leto, though it was done to benefit him and House Atreides, not herself or the Sisterhood.
The fourth independent power, which is hardly touched upon in this first part of the movie, is the Spacing Guild and CHOAM. They're like a huge mercantile power, and the Guild Navigators are the only ones able to move/teleport (technically folding space-time) between planets, so without them, there would be no viable interstellar Imperium. Which make them essential and an enormous powerhouse as well - though, of course... they are and remain dependent on the Spice. That's why: whom controls Arrakis, controls the Empire.
So the Emperor can't directly attack a Great House like Artreides, or he risks all-out war with the Landsraad, consisting of the other Great Houses. Instead, he uses an indirect attack, with and through the Harkonnens - who want their fiefplanet back with all the Spice - doing the grunt work for him. The emperor knows they will be easily instigated that way, certainly because the Atreides and Harkonnen already have a centuries-old feud going on between them. It's a sort of proxy war, thus. He does help the Harkonnen to make sure they'll win - hence why he sends a few battalions of Sardaukar, his elite troops. But no-one (especially the Landsraad) may know about that. (That's also why they killed Liet, because she was going to expose the Emperor's meddling).
Also, some details one might have missed in the movie:
About the time in which the story plays: in the beginning of the movie they show it's the year 10191, but this is not 10191 AD, it's 10191 AG.
AG (After Guild - when the Spice Guild was made and started exploring the stars), and BG (Before Guild) are the iterations used and the lore in the books gives some indication as how that relates to our AD (Anno Domini). The most precise date - with a high level of accuracy - is that the first Dune novel which is set in 10,191 AG, corresponds approximately to 23,148 AD.
It is mentioned the "space age" takes place in 11,000 BG, and assuming this would mean it began in 1957 AD as this is when the first satellite, Sputnik, was launched, we can rebuild the whole timeline to our AD. So if you add the year 11,000 BG to 10,191 AG you’re left with a time span of 21,191 years. So if you add 21,191 years to 1957 AD, you’re left with 23,148 AD as the most likely date.
Quite some time! Most casual watchers of the movie think it's almost 10000 years in the future, but it's actually more than twice as much!
Now...as far as the melee fights and old/new tech are concerned, it's important to realize that in the Duniverse, while there is very high-tech at CERTAIN aspects, others are low tech (which gives the retro-feeling of the movie) but with a reason. It may seem strange at first sight, but note, however, that this has an in-story explanation, namely: thousands of years ago, there was a rebellion against "thinking machines" (AI) called the Butlerian Jihad. Humanity won (barely), but since that time there is a very strong taboo on creating anything resembling robots or AI, and humanity started to develop their own powers (aided by the melange/spice), such as Mentats (basically human supercomputers). This is the reason you don't see any highly developed robots, AI or even computers in this world.
This mix of old and new tech is a defining, historically explained element of the Duniverse; it's part of the worldbuilding and lore. Now, specifically about the melee combat: maybe you missed it, but they explained the shields in that fighting scene; they said "the slow sword can penetrate it". This is a hint that ALL objects with high kinetic energy are stopped dead in their tracks when hitting the shield, but SLOW objects can penetrate it. Meaning: ALL of our "modern" warfare weapons would largely become obsolete: machine-guns and all fast moving shells/bullets etc. become useless, but swords and knifes that are SLOWLY moved can still reach a target through the shields. Making the use of swords and knifes, after thousands of years, the dominant way of fighting once again. It's actually a cool twist.
That's all I'm going to say about it, because any more would get you into spoiler territory for part 2! ;-)
Hope that made things more clear!
The interpretation of his dream did come true. His teachings of their ways and his "death" did come true. He was taught their ways of the death dual, and in the killing he "died" and was reborn into their ways.
Paul is also a Mentat (human calculator), although he doesn’t have the same level of specialized training as a professional Mentat.
Paul's prescience is more sophisticatedly developed than in almost any other property. He doesn't see the future, as much as he sees possible futures, their probabilities, and the paths that lead to them.
In physic terms, think of it as a probability field. In physical terms, think of it as a terrain with hills and valleys. There are an infinite number of ways that water could flow across that terrain, but there are often clearly places that are more likely to be inundated and others more likely to be dry. But by taking certain actions, you can influence the final path and flow. This is something we all do naturally every day, seeing possible futures and then acting to create the future we desire. For Paul, however, he sees the terrain of the future in greater detail and much broader and further than others. For example, maybe there's a future path where they never went to Arakis, Duncan lived, and he continued to train Paul. By reaching into the memories of that future, Paul has access to knowledge and skills that he does not have in the future he's living. I believe this is how he knew how to fit his still suit properly, he subconsciously accessed his future experience in the desert and used it in the present.
The Bene Gesserit have been manipulating bloodlines for centuries. They maneuvered Leto into taking Jessica as his concubine so that she would have his daughter and they could then pair the daughter up with a man from another house, trying to get the right genetic cocktail for their super being, but Jessica had a boy because she actually loves Leto and he wanted/needed an heir.
The emperor wasn't worried about the prophecy, he was worried about Leto. Duke Leto Atreides was popular among the noble houses, which gives him a lot of political power, and he has a strong army, so the emperor was worried that Leto was a threat to his position. He couldn't directly attack Leto, so he gave him the "honor" of running a rich, important planet, making the Harkonnen their very public enemies and secretly lending them his elite soldiers to destroy the Atreides. The emperor gets rid of House Atreides and the other noble houses can't prove that the emperor moved against them.
Paul doesn't see a set future, he sees possible futures, like when he saw the man that he ended up killing, Jamis, offering to teach him the desert ways. There was nothing that Paul did to change it from that future to the one where he has to kill or be killed by Jamis. It was Jamis who set them on that path. Also, Paul has been trained to fight all of his life, by his mom, who is a trained Bene Gesserit sister, and by Duncan, who is one of the best fighters in their universe. The Fremen are great fighters, but so is Paul. He could have killed Jamis several times before he finally accepted that the fight was to the death and that there was no other way to end it.
48:41 Lmao “god, it’s like oil…and oil” 😂😂 you guys are a great pair too.
I love the original 1984 movie. Specifically, I like the Alan Smithee version of the 1984 version. It uses narration, which the theatrical version doesn't, but I think the narration adds a great deal to the movie. It also has the internal monologues, which add even more. Its effects are...about as good as you could expect for 1984, but they're still quite distinctive, and even awesome at times. Corridor Crew even did an episode about using '84 effects in the '21 movie.
But the best part about the 1984 version is the cast. Patrick Stewart is Gurney, Dean Stockwell is Dr. Yueh, Max von Sydow is Dr. Kynes, Brad Dourif is Piter De Vries, and Sting is Feyd Rautha. After their and others' performances, I just can't see anyone else in those roles. If you ever watch the 1984 movie, be sure to watch the Alan Smithee version. It's infamous, but in my opinion, it's amazing.
Alan Smithee is the name directors use when they don’t want to claim credit for the movie. You may have know that, but it speaks to Lynch not wanting to claim that version. Overall 84 was ambitious, and I see why it has a cult following, but was far from a faithful adaptation. It was a great cast though - completely agree on that point.
@@jcs1025 He didn't want to claim it because he disagreed with the changes that were made from the theatrical version. The new narration, the addition of scenes that Lynch had filmed and then decided to cut, various other creative choices that were made without his approval led to him not wanting his name attached. But, I still think the changes were for the better.
@@PaperbackWizard Lynch was never happy. The producers changed the theatrical ending. Lynch finally had enough and refused to work on the TV cut.
Agreed. The narration and the extra added scenes from the extended cut really help explain a film that is as dense as Dune.
Piter de Vries is known as “The Twisted Mentat” for his depravity and corruption. So he was played by Brad Dourif, famous for also playing Grima Wormtongue. 😂😂😂
1. Thufir and Piter are Mentats. Human Computers in Dune lore because at one point in the history of the Dune universe there was a war between humanity and their own machines leading to a ban on AI snd computers.
2. When the worms come to the spice fields, the crews intentionally wait until the last minute to maximize the harvest . Because the spice is so valuable to everything, they willingly risk dying for the payday
3. The Emperor is in on the plot against the Atreides. He sides with the Harkonnens but he's also flexing on them to assert that they're in his debt for helping him get rid of the Atreides.
"A dangerous, jealous man"
What Baron Harkonnen says about "the Atreides Voice rising in the universe" is that Paul's father was VERY POPULAR among the other noble houses and the Emperor saw him as a threat to his power
5. "I serve only one master and his name is Shai Hulud"
Shai Hulud is the name the Firemen have given to the sandworms (The Old Man of the Desert... "I hear your footsteps old man")
6. Indirectly, Jamis DOES teach Paul the ways of the desert. The lesson was that in the desert, you live on a literal knife's edge and must be willing to kill to prevail
the Emperor has little to no idea who Paul is (other than Leto's heir). He is afraid of Leto's voice politically. Leto is a charismatic man of honor who had gained great support in the Landsraad (the ruling body of noble houses). He has also begun training an elite force which the emperor fears will rival his Sardaukar (the elite warriors that aided the Harkonnen in the assault).
7:40 Gurney Halleck is the war master of House Atreides. He was formerly a slave on the a Harkonnen’s home world. The Harkonnen’s violated and deleted his sister. So Gurney knows just how brutal they can be.
Like Duncan and Thufir he is fiercely loyal to House Atreides.
Gurney is a musician and advisor to the Duke. Duncan is the sword master. Gurney teaches the arts. Halwalt is the master of assassins.
@@Dularr Gurney's official title within the Atreides army is Warmaster.
@@scumdog666 Weapon master. In part one they didn't focus on the Lazer pistols.
War is prohibited in Dune.
@@Dularr war is not actually prohibited, OPEN WAR IS but they are allowed to do what house harkonnen does just as long as they don't use atomics
@@houseofaction war is prohibited. Most houses armies are no better than shocktroops for use against civilian population. What happened on Arrakis was prohibited. Why it was important to wipe them out completely.
Atomic are banned from civilian populations.
"DUNE" is a novel by Frank Herbert written in the mid 60's. It might still be the best selling sci fi novel of all time, it had a HUGE impact on sci fi fans of the time. The movie rights were sort of stuck, and the difficulties of making such a movie kept one from getting made despite popular demand for one for about 20 years. George Lucas put LOTS of callbacks and homages to Dune in Star Wars. The desert planet of Tatooine, references to 'spice', Jedi powers, use of 'blades' in the form of lightsabers, a 'low-tech high tech' setting, a distant, evil emperor and so on.
The world building is very dense, in the movie there are only hints to various cultures and how things work. Artificial Intelligence, for example, is not allowed, so no autonomous robots similar to Star Wars, even advanced computers are frowned upon, humans called 'mentats' learn to do advanced calculations without aid. This is why this is very far in the future, yet you might fairly wonder why the technology seems so low and so on.
Herbert's own inspiration came from Isaac Asimov's "Foundation" series; particularly a galactic scale empire far in the future with strangely relatively low tech, and idea of choosing a better, engineered future, and mental development and psychology allowing certain paranormal powers.
Jedi reflexes that allow the deflection of blasters is related to an immediate and instinctive view of the future, and that is how Paul is becoming not just very good but a great fighter now that his powers are awakening. While many potential future timelines won't be able to happen, Paul can still learn from them; hence, how the guy he is forced to kill was a mentor of his in a potential future, but Paul still managed to obtain some benefit from him even though they fought to the death rather than becoming friends.
You are right about the shields! Technology developed away from guns due to shield technology that has been around for a long time. There are still hand held guns as you've seen, but they are almost just a curious secondary or specialty weapon next to getting up close and personal.
In Paul’s vision, Jamis say’s, Come with me and I will show you the ways of the desert”. And their fight to the death is part of those ways. So the vision was not necessarily inaccurate.
In the middle of a film, "You know what I really want be doing is [something regarding a YA property]." Noted.
All RUclipsrs should first find out when the story they are watching is first written.
It's actually 20,000 some years in the future. The 10,000 is counting from the Butlarian Jyhad when humanity was almost destroyed by thinking machines.
You said some of the guys walking down the ramp looked like aliens. Unbeknown to most people in the galaxy, the Guild Navigators with the big helmets use spice to evolve the minds and bodies, they begin to look fish-like and later become whales, so those guys could actually be alien underneath the helmets.
The Dune Universe is one of the most complex ever written and it came from the mind of Frank Herbert.
It has it's own politics it's own planets . It's the only story I've ever read and where the characters and planets and politics need each other . You can't talk about Paul without talking about Arrakis and everyone wants this prize on Arrakis. It would be the equivalent of our government secrets on Earth everyone wants them. Yes Star Wars was highly influenced by this book.
These guys take terrible notes. 😊😊😊😊
On a side note, there's a consensus that the Doctor's wife was actually the "pet" the Harkonnen were keeping.
This is the OG almost all sci fi has taken from this story
It's +20,000 years in the future as it's set in 10,191AG standing for After Guild. This was when the spacing guild was established and that is around 10,000 years from now.
They changed how they counted years after the Spacing Guild was founded. So when it said the year was 10,191, they meant 10,191 AG and 0 AG was 11,075 CE, so this takes place in 21,266 CE. This is over 19,000 years in the future, not 8,000.
The calculations have it at about 26,000 years from now.
30:40 They're not going to drop bombs on the entire facility, because they need the infrastructure. That's why hand-to-hand. That, and the fact that they do have shields often rules out the use of firearms.
A few minutes later they do drop bombs on the entire city though. 34:08
Thanks for putting so much of this on regular YT. I lost my job, so I lost all my Patreons. Well, I didn't lose them. I just feel I shouldn't have too many expenses until I have another job. It was nice to be able to watch this along with you guys. Great watch as always.
Draxx and "The Beast" Rabban are about as different as characters can be. What you couldn't hear Lady Jessica reciting was 'The Litany Against Fear: I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when my fear is gone I will turn and face fear's path, and only I will remain.'
Paul signs to his mother
“It’s really HANDY”
Lol
Using a laser against a personal shield results in a small nuclear explosion at both ends. That's why they rarely use them.
This movie starts in the year 10,191 AG (After Guild), which is the dating standard in this universe.
Our modern world would take place approximately 12,000 BG (Before Guild).
So this movie is essentially set approximately 22,000 years in the future.
A note on the year, 10191. Their calendar starts at an event (The Butlarian Jihad) very far into our future. So the events of the book are happening about 25,000 years from now.
Nice react, by the way .
It's actually more like 30 thousand years in the future. At some point they rest the year to 0 due to the end of a Giant war with AI.
10191 AG is ‘After Guild’. Year 0 was the year that the year of inception for the Spacing Guild. The Buterlian Jihad actually took place several hundred years prior.
@@jcs1025 the B. Jihad lasted what, six millennia? Can't remember.
@@pablom-f8762 I don’t think it was quite that long, but Herbert doesn’t give many details. I don’t like his son’s novel on the Butlerian Jihad at all. Some interpretations state that Herbert didn’t envision it as a neat war with a specific timeline like his don’t novel portrays. In a lot of ways he envisioned it as a Jihad in name only, where humanity wasn’t literally enslaved, but metaphorically enslaved by our dependence on the thinking machines that robbed us of our ambition, creativity, etc.
The concepts in this movie are presented well, and are not that difficult to understand. All you need to do is listen to the dialogue and watch the screen. Each time they go to a new planet the name literally comes on the screen and explains who lives there. I hear your footsteps is paul talking to gurney. Paul got hit with a blast of spice which is a powerful drug.
"I hear your footsteps old man" is not talking about Gurney. Book readers will know the worm is called Old Man as well. And you'll notice Paul is startled when Gurney puts his hand on his shoulders right after he says that sentence so he didn't expect Gurney.
@@Yggdrasil42 he just said it in the combat training scene. So it may apply to both.but it definitely includes gurney
Y'all should've watched this movie with subtitles on. You miss so many details without them!
So weird that four of my followed reactors decided to do Dune part 1 on the same day, I wonder if that's due to the renewed interest generated by the Dune part 2 trailer coming out in the past week or so. Hoping that it will invite more of the uninitiated into the circle of life that is spice and sand.
I always find it highly suspicious that just about every movie reactor on youtube always seems to watch the same movies around the same time. For example, just over the course of last week, several different reaction channels suddenly all watched Ace Ventura. Like...are they just copying each other, or use the same movie site for recommendations? It's a little bit too obvious to be a coincidence.
to put into context of how far in the future this is: the year is 10191 A.G. (After Guild). the Spacing Guild was formed around 10,000 A.D. on our calendar, making it 20,191 A.D.!
So many were influenced by this story. The voice was adapted for another movie some people have seen. "These are not the droids you are looking for." These are not the droids we are looking for. Does that sound familiar? lol.
Not to mention:
- Force precognition
- Spice trade
- Young kid on desert planet.
- His father was a good pilot.
- Hyper-destructive space beams.
- Hostile sand people with covered faces
- Sand people with weird eyes and crazy ingenuity
- Giant thing with teeth that eats you in the sand
- Evil emperor
- Super powerful evil fat dude who struggles to move on his own
- Futuristic sword-fighting
- Almost the midichlorian idea, but WAY better.
- Interstellar travel requires extensive safe routing, often controlled by a single monopolistic corporation (CHOAM/Spacing Guild, Galactic Trade Federation)
Lucas basically took Dune, broke it up into its constituent pieces, reassembled the pieces based on westerns and samurai films, and thus made a "filmable version of Dune" at a time it was very much not filmable. Derivative? Absolutely. But he ultimately did what Jodorowsky and Lynch could not.
I'm just glad we have the tech and the director to finally give us the OG. But it's definitely gonna need some spinoffs to make a dent in the source material.
@@webx135 I know but I was just picking one to make my point.
Dune came first 1965. Star wars was heavily inspired by the book (Tatooin=Arrakis, Sandworms, Jedi mind tricks=the voice Jabba=the baron) George Lucas didn't hide it. For many, Dune is to science fiction what Lord of the rings is to fantasy : an influencing Elder or forefather.
Paul=Luke, Spoiler=Leia😆
Ohhhhh boy, here we go. Let the confusion begin😂
There is an excellent audiobook adaptation by George Guidall. Its a little difficult to find (it was made in 1993) but its really very good.
"Why is it eating metal?" That sent me rolling on the floor 😂🤣😂
There are a few versions of Dune, 1984 is the first movie which was good then there was Dune 2000 which was mini-series on the sci-fi channel, which was when I was introduced to the Dune universe, then there was another mini-series which was a direct follow up to Dune 2000, Children of Dune, which was amazing in my opinion. The Dune universe is amazing and so in depth, I hope you guys just do a deep dive one day into the entire Dune universe.
I recommend a second watch of this movie with subtitles.
Dune was written in 1965
All of the special abilities of the characters (Dr Yueh being able to be a doctor without instruments, Thufir Hawat being able to calculate, the Bene Gesserit Voice) is all from centuries or breeding and training. There are no computers or robots in Dune because they are outlawed (there was a whole war against machines a long time ago)
its more like 20,000 years in the future. the year shown at the start was 10,000 AG; After Guild referring to the Spacing Guild that controls interstellar travel. in around 8000AD there was war with AI that had enslaved man and humans won around 9,000AD after that the calendar was reset to AG. this also resulted in a law that no machine would made in the likeness of a human mind and any one that did would be killed on sight.
Something to note, in the world of dune, technology is used but advanced tech like AI and things that can enhance a person is sort of outlawed. The attitude is that humans can advance their own abilities through training, so the doctors abilities as well as the bene gesserit's even like the voice, is possible through special training that has taken time to see humans through potential. So they wouldn't consider what they can do magickal power's only the chosen or blessed can do like star wars. they'd consider it time and effort that anyone can do if they put in the work.
Actually the lasers cannot be used against the shield effectively because when the lasers make contact with the shields, they are using similar energy and frequency to create the projectile and the shield. So it causes a reaction that will create basically a mini nuclear explosion. So they can’t really be used as weapons normally because you risk blowing up large portion of the battlefields or you risk destroying a lot of your own forces / ships. So they use swords normally. Just a cool way to force the fighting and war to be done with swords and choreograph the fights in an eloquent way, not just have people shooting at each other. Brings a whole new level of stress to engagements and nobility in hand to hand combat.
Dune came out waaaay before Star Wars. It was published in 1965. It's influence on sci-fi since its publication is huge.
Despite all the hate that David Lynch's 1984 film version of Dune gets it still holds up well to this day. I like what Dennis did with the most recent version of the Dune film.
The three cornerstones if sci-fi are Herbert's Dune, Asomov's Foundation, and ER Burroghs's John Carter of Mars. Inspirations from them can be found all thru modern sci fi.
there is a lot of lore, but a big one to know is that AI and thinking machines have been banned, violently. that is why houses depend on human computers: mentats.
Lucas commentated he used Dune as part of his inspiration for Star wars, this was created decades before Star Wars even was a thought.
Sardukars are the army of the Emperor. The Harkonens hired them. And the other house is Atreides, the boy is Paul Atredies. And btw he should have been a she and she should have had a kid with a Harkonen man. But Jessika, he's mother got a boy against the Bene Gesserits plans.
8:57 The movie takes place in the year 10191 AG, the AG calendar began in year 201 BG (aka the end of the Butlerian Jihad), this would be the modern equivalent of the year 11201 AD. So Dune would begin around 21392 AD (19369 years in the future).
Dune is actually over 20,000 years into our future.
The year mentioned at the beginning of the movie is on a new calendar not our current one.
Christopher Walken will be playing the Emperor in Part 2
By the way, Yueh knew his wife was dead. He wanted revenge and this was his way of getting it. He was nuts. He was willing to sacrifice everything to kill the Baron. He almost succeeded and probably died thinking he did, just like Duke Leto.
10191 is a bit misleading. In truth it’s much farther in the future in this story.
The story takes place in 10191AG. Meaning that it is 10191 years after the formation of the spacing guild. So it’s really more like 20k years in the future.
Don’t mind him, we want reactions conversations, theories. I find myself more interested in two or more people for back and forth dialogue rather than one person
it's not 8,000 years in the future, it's like 20,000 years in the future. In the beginning of the movie it gives the date in the 10,000's AG. AG stands for "After Guild". 10,000 years AFTER the founding of the Spacing Guild.
8:52 - Interesting fact, they didn't put the calendar marking on the date, it's from a newer calendar of 'AG' not the traditional 'AD' or 'CE'. And it is closer to 20+ thousand years in our future. :)
The Dune novels came first, George Lucas and others have borrowed heavily from it. It's hard to make things that everyone else has done already look good, Villeneuve did a great job.
Personal opinion, I love your comments Jane! You comment just enough to keep things interesting. ❤ Love your comments too, Justin. 😊
It's kind of a shame that when people watch this first movie they don't understand how important Duncan is to the entire saga.
It probably would have helped at the beginning if Girney would have mentioned just how good Duncan is in combat.
To be fair, in the first book, Duncan isn't important at all. He has barely any screentime and then suddenly dies without much fanfare. It's only in the later books that Herbert suddenly decided that Duncan will be the main character of the series.
I actually always found it kind of odd, how in the later books they suddenly make Duncan out to have been this superhero-esque mega-chad, when all I remember of him from book one is that scene where he was drunk and made an ass of himself, and his death scene, where he's just shown covered in blood.
It's not even mentioned that he had this amazing last stand against the Sardaukar until Dune Messiah.
Also they don't have to mention how good he is in combat. The movie constantly shows us how good he is.
The spaceship are called "GUILD HEIGHLINER. The spaceship are huge!! 20 kilometers long!! They are the ONLY ships that can be used for space travel.