Nate Burleson picks between Calvin Johnson and Randy Moss | NFL Players: Second Acts Podcast

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  • @dominicswing5160
    @dominicswing5160 Год назад +37

    That cheeta question is the most randy moss response ever

    • @chipmunk1227
      @chipmunk1227 Год назад +2

      Straight facts homie 🤣😂🤣😂

  • @user-wj9bz8xi9u
    @user-wj9bz8xi9u 9 месяцев назад +3

    Randy Moss is the greatest receiver of all time

  • @BeeWinz
    @BeeWinz Год назад +11

    Detroit really ran Calvin into the ground. He has openly admitted that he retired because his body couldn’t endure playing anymore

    • @MattPawlowski
      @MattPawlowski Год назад +1

      Dude's body was so banged up and he hardly practiced the 2nd half of his career, yet he still was dominant on Sunday with no excuses.

    • @brianredman6153
      @brianredman6153 Год назад +1

      Dude was getting smacked 200 times a year. The body can’t handle a car crash 17 weeks a year!

  • @blakebrown84
    @blakebrown84 Год назад +6

    Randy Moss is the most physical wideout…he catches the ball with body control and was a great route runner.

    • @Max-zg2ci
      @Max-zg2ci Год назад +2

      Randy caught the ball like he had Calvin’s body/frame. If Calvin played like Moss? There would be a statue of him in canton

    • @patrickr2691
      @patrickr2691 Год назад +2

      @@Max-zg2ci Moss decisively better than Calvin. They're really not close.

    • @blakebrown84
      @blakebrown84 Год назад +1

      Randy Moss played for the first 13 seasons before retiring for the first time, so he retired for a year before he made a comeback for his 14th and final season in the NFL with San Francisco 49ers. He had longevity than Johnson. Calvin Johnson only played 9 seasons in the league all with the Detroit Lions. Calvin Johnson was a inch taller and weighed more than Moss. Calvin was build like a tight end. Johnson was 6 foot 5 and 240 pound wideout out of Georgia Tech. Moss was 6 foot 4 and weighed 210 pound wideout out of Marshall.

  • @DeeDaKaang1
    @DeeDaKaang1 Год назад +30

    Randy Moss was the most deadly WR in the history of the NFL

    • @carolynsanchez3797
      @carolynsanchez3797 Год назад +2

      Better than Jerry Rice,heh. 🤔

    • @Johnny123_9
      @Johnny123_9 Год назад

      @@carolynsanchez3797yep

    • @RandomPlaceHolderName
      @RandomPlaceHolderName Год назад +7

      @@carolynsanchez3797 Jerry had 14 seasons with HoF QBs. Moss got 3.

    • @DeeDaKaang1
      @DeeDaKaang1 Год назад +3

      @@carolynsanchez3797 Yes.....Randy was different. Jerry Rice had the best technique, but if I needed 1 touchdown to win a game I'm throwing it to Randy

    • @SmilingDolphins-ye4zm
      @SmilingDolphins-ye4zm 11 месяцев назад

      No rings mane holla back mane

  • @df6148
    @df6148 Год назад +3

    Peanut Tillman was a monster. Don’t even get me started with the Bears in madden.

  • @sublimetulips6771
    @sublimetulips6771 Год назад +8

    RANDY MOSS😍 If you know…you know👌

    • @MJ-kt2pm
      @MJ-kt2pm Год назад +1

      Randy Moss is the greatest WR that hasn't won a championship by far.

  • @theonewhoisbetterthanyou3570
    @theonewhoisbetterthanyou3570 Год назад +4

    “Aye…you ever seen a cheetah stretch before it hunts?” - *Randy Moss*
    😶 - Vikings staff

  • @darrellpg22
    @darrellpg22 Год назад +3

    Calvin Johnson 1,964 in one sea plus 11,619 in 8 season

  • @illadvized7623
    @illadvized7623 Год назад +8

    Randy moss. Calvin johnson was otherworldly though. But moss on a consistent basis would have people in awe while making it look easy. Compare highlight films from the two. Randy moss was pure talent

  • @patrickr2691
    @patrickr2691 Год назад +7

    Their speed really isn't comparable and the people saying "both were fast" are way over simplifying and selling Moss short. Calvin was very fast. Moss, as Nate says, could have been an olympic sprinter and is one of the fastest players ever. That is not the same thing. Moss speed was 10/10 while Johnson was an 8/10. It is a serious and highly impactful difference for a WR.

  • @thetruth-gy2lc
    @thetruth-gy2lc Год назад +5

    Randy all day

  • @cprealone
    @cprealone Год назад +2

    My favorite 2 receivers I’m from Detroit saw Calvin Every Sunday but I still would pick Moss, dude was just from another planet

  • @turdferguson1603
    @turdferguson1603 Год назад +2

    RANDY IS THE MAN!

  • @oshovv
    @oshovv Год назад +1

    if im making a myplayer on madden, no doubt it's modeled after calvin attributes. but there's a reason why people say "moss'd" and not "rice'd" who's arguably the goat wr. randy had backyard intangibles and feel for the game to ALWAYS be open, whether it was a hitch, dig, post, fade, or out route - he knew how to separate no matter what. it didn't help calvin that he had a shitty OL and defense in his 9 years, but his route running wasnt great by feel but rather he knew the ball was coming, so he's giving one jab move, boxing out and using size and that's the separation im living with

    • @Demitriwillett
      @Demitriwillett Год назад

      There is no argument we’re moss should be over rice lol rice clears all wide receivers

    • @oshovv
      @oshovv Год назад

      @@Demitriwillett facts, no doubt. but you can wonder what randy could've done with 2 hof qb's and the birth of a west coast offense nobody had plans for in a run heavy era. this is literally a mj vs lebron debate - where mj had the coach(s), top tier hof teammates, played against plumbers BUT jerry had lebron's health and longevity. one can wonder if randy played with those same circumstances minus the longevity part

  • @isaz597
    @isaz597 Год назад +2

    Dayyum did he really just mention Darren Sharper !

  • @Dreas_Diaz88
    @Dreas_Diaz88 Год назад +11

    What a disgusting act by randy moss

  • @chipmunk1227
    @chipmunk1227 Год назад +2

    TO was my favorite receiver as a kid, Moss was better than Megatron and TO

  • @theonewhoisbetterthanyou3570
    @theonewhoisbetterthanyou3570 Год назад +2

    *RANDY MOSS*

  • @SharkWithFreakinLaserBeam
    @SharkWithFreakinLaserBeam Год назад

    Huh I did not expect a Street Fighter reference and he totally knew Dhalsim.

  • @MattPawlowski
    @MattPawlowski Год назад

    Years back, Nate said it was Megatron... Based off that, he probably thinks they're 1A and 1B for talent and it matters what day of the week you ask him.

  • @wesweaverjr7519
    @wesweaverjr7519 Год назад +5

    Calvin easily he can play slot outside the numbers and he's a better blocker

    • @chipmunk1227
      @chipmunk1227 Год назад

      There's no such thing as slot outside the numbers lol. Slot is the spot between the online and tight end. You can motion to outside the numbers. That's not what you were talking about though

    • @wesweaverjr7519
      @wesweaverjr7519 Год назад

      You can move Cal in the slot or line him up outside the numbers anyway it goes he's better then Randy to me he's more then a Fly route guy

    • @kennymorelandiii9406
      @kennymorelandiii9406 Год назад

      Moss played outside as well....

  • @elcoriyodelo3ojo
    @elcoriyodelo3ojo Год назад

    The disrespect Calvin is getting is astonishing. Both GOATS but the way people making it seems like Moss was waaaaaaaaay better and he wasn't. Me, I would take Calvin but Moss is a beast.

  • @MeauxGreenMusic
    @MeauxGreenMusic Год назад

    If we were in the Vietnam war I would pick Randy to be in my squadron.

  • @machineunit
    @machineunit 7 месяцев назад

    Just watched this guy pick Calvin Johnson 8 years ago. Now he says it's Randy? Calvin is better in every way except speed, which calvin STILL runs a 4.35 40.

    • @gqprince2
      @gqprince2 5 месяцев назад

      randy definitely had better hands and route running

  • @patrickr2691
    @patrickr2691 Год назад +3

    Moss was dramatically quicker and that gives him a large edge overall in a 1 on 1 comparison versus Calvin. Moss made people miss all the time, even in his final season in SF. Calvin was much more heavy footed. As Calvin aged, he became stronger and more physical, but at the expense of some straight line burst and almost all of his short area quickness. Calvin of 2008/2009 could juke guys and had some sweet catch and runs, but by 2009 that part of game had almost completely disappeared and only worsened over time.

  • @cameronmanning8606
    @cameronmanning8606 Год назад +1

    He got busy in new England for real

  • @HumanBeanbag
    @HumanBeanbag Год назад +4

    Calvin Johnson easily

    • @kennymorelandiii9406
      @kennymorelandiii9406 Год назад +1

      Easily? 😂
      Randy's first 9 years = 676 catches for 10,700 yards and 101 touchdowns, yards per catch avg - 15.8, yards per game average- 77.5, catch % 56.1, 10 total fumbles.
      Calvin = 731 catches, 11, 619 yards and 83 touchdowns, yards per catch- 15.9, yards per game- 86.1, catch percentage - 55.7. Fumbles - 14.
      Both were 1st team all pro 3 times in that span (Randy would be all pro again year 10 for a total of 4)
      So Calvin had more catches and yards but Moss had 18 more touchdowns in his first 9 years which is a large amount.
      Moss is better and that's not including the additional 306 catches for 4,592 yards and 55 more touchdowns he would add after his 9th year.
      Moss is better. Calvin is one of the greatest though. Its basically breakdown like would the lions trade Calvin for Randy straight up? Nah, but neither would the vikings trade Moss for Johnson.

  • @youngkingsht5099
    @youngkingsht5099 Год назад +8

    Imma go Randy he did it longer but Calvin was the most physically imposing Wideout ever man was faster than Randy and bigger

    • @capybara8740
      @capybara8740 Год назад +8

      I don’t think he was faster

    • @idothisforfun1300
      @idothisforfun1300 Год назад +5

      He was NOT faster than Randy , randy ran a 4.2

    • @MattPawlowski
      @MattPawlowski Год назад +1

      Not faster, but WAY stronger and was getting jump balls better than any WR in history.

    • @youngkingsht5099
      @youngkingsht5099 Год назад

      @@MattPawlowski agreed

    • @patrickr2691
      @patrickr2691 Год назад +3

      He was def. stronger stronger but Moss was A LOT faster, especially laterally, and Moss is the definitive jump ball king. Watch full games not highlight reels, Moss used his hops MUCH more often than Johnson did.@@MattPawlowski

  • @youlikedyourowncomment5151
    @youlikedyourowncomment5151 Год назад

    Im surprised they didn't cut out that Darren Sharper segment

  • @MJ-kt2pm
    @MJ-kt2pm Год назад +3

    Randy Moss but Calvin Johnson was Randy Moss 2.0 tho

  • @AnonymousRandomGuy006
    @AnonymousRandomGuy006 Год назад +9

    There is no receiver skill that Moss has that Calvin Johnson cannot match, but there are a couple of skills that Moss cannot match when it comes to Megatron. Strength and break tackle ability being two of them.
    Also, I’ve never seen Moss out jump three guys for the ball. That’s all Megatron, and I think he did it twice.

    • @michaelmoore9518
      @michaelmoore9518 Год назад +12

      Ur smoking out jumping dbs is what moss started. It's call mossed em for a reason lol

    • @patrickr2691
      @patrickr2691 Год назад +1

      Calvin can't match Moss straight speed and isn't even close with regards to quickness and agility. What are you talking about ?

    • @kennymorelandiii9406
      @kennymorelandiii9406 Год назад

      I've seen Moss out jump 3 dudes. Happened against the team I'm a fan of (Washington)
      Silly take

    • @AnonymousRandomGuy006
      @AnonymousRandomGuy006 Год назад

      @@michaelmoore9518
      No he did not. Lynn Swann for example has been out jumping DBs before moss could even run.

    • @AnonymousRandomGuy006
      @AnonymousRandomGuy006 Год назад

      @@patrickr2691
      Yes, he can match the speed, he cants surpass it but he can match it.

  • @SmilingDolphins-ye4zm
    @SmilingDolphins-ye4zm 11 месяцев назад

    Randy sounds like domineek Wilkins just a highlight and no rings give me Jordan and GOAT Rice holla back mane

  • @ChiefCedricJohnson
    @ChiefCedricJohnson Год назад +1

    John 9:5
    As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.

  • @chad5561
    @chad5561 Год назад

    I say bout a tie

  • @jadoo868
    @jadoo868 Год назад

    Megatron all day long!

    • @kennymorelandiii9406
      @kennymorelandiii9406 Год назад

      Randy's first 9 years = 676 catches for 10,700 yards and 101 touchdowns, yards per catch avg - 15.8, yards per game average- 77.5, catch % 56.1, 10 total fumbles.
      Calvin = 731 catches, 11, 619 yards and 83 touchdowns, yards per catch- 15.9, yards per game- 86.1, catch percentage - 55.7. Fumbles - 14.
      Both were 1st team all pro 3 times in that span (Randy would be all pro again year 10 for a total of 4)
      So Calvin had more catches and yards but Moss had 18 more touchdowns in his first 9 years which is a large amount.
      Moss is better and that's not including the additional 306 catches for 4,592 yards and 55 more touchdowns he would add after his 9th year.
      Moss is better. Calvin is one of the greatest though. Its basically breakdown like would the lions trade Calvin for Randy straight up? Nah, but neither would the vikings trade Moss for Johnson.

  • @jimmyrod1977
    @jimmyrod1977 Год назад

    I’ll take T.O. over Calvin

  • @AustinStudioPNW
    @AustinStudioPNW Год назад

    Nahhhhh. Youre wrong.

  • @charleskotovich4102
    @charleskotovich4102 Год назад

    Randy used those stick sums on the gloves Calvin didn't. Nate switches it up all the time. Show Nate on the side lines saying Calvin was way better than moss lol😂

  • @globlocka4764
    @globlocka4764 Год назад

    Ask why peanut became the FEDS after he retired.

  • @adenosborne1966
    @adenosborne1966 Месяц назад

    Burleson could barely get 500 yds with Calvin taking all the coverage....Burleson was an overrated bum

  • @JohnReyes-yv5gw
    @JohnReyes-yv5gw Год назад +2

    The difference for me all boils down to, Randy Moss didn't have to work hard, so he didn't. Calvin Johnson worked like he was a undrafted free agent. I'll take ten Calvin Johnson's and leave Randy Moss for someone else to deal with. If I'm building a team as a GM or a head coach, I want a superstar like Calvin to set the example for the rest of the team. There's a reason why Randy Moss played for 5 teams in his career and Calvin Johnson played for 1.

    • @kennymorelandiii9406
      @kennymorelandiii9406 Год назад +1

      You're a fool if you don't think Randy worked hard. It's just some players like Moss just like Allen Iverson and plenty of others just don't value expending themselves in practice. We talking about practice....not a game...but practice.
      Just because one might not give it 100% in practice absolutely without a doubt does not mean someone ain't work hard. Silly take

    • @freshprince3573
      @freshprince3573 Год назад

      Tell me you're over the age of 60 without telling me you're over the age of 60. No shot you actually watched the Vikings in Moss' prime if you feel this way. The reason he was on multiple teams was because of terrible front offices and teams. Bill Belicheck loves Randy moss and says he is one of the highest IQ football players he's ever been around or coached. There is a reason he paired so well with the Patriots and Bill/Tom. Him being traded had nothing to do with work ethic. The GM that traded him from the Vikings in 2004 has never been a GM again. The Raiders were one of the worst organizations in the NFL in 2005. Brad Childress was fired after having Moss cut in 2010. Never was a head coach again. Literally had to become an analyst for the rest of his career. Total moron.
      Calvin was on one team because the Lions wouldn't trade him and even if they would they would've asked for some ridiculous return noone would have offered. He legitimately chose to retire than continue playing for them

    • @patrickr2691
      @patrickr2691 Год назад

      Yeah Moss set every record imaginable during his first few seasons and did so with rotating door of mid QBs and he did so without working hard at all...ok @@kennymorelandiii9406

    • @JohnReyes-yv5gw
      @JohnReyes-yv5gw Год назад +1

      @@kennymorelandiii9406 I'm not saying Randy Moss didn't work hard practice, watch the clip, Nate Burleson said Randy didn't work hard in practice. Nate also said that Calvin Johnson worked like, "he was an undrafted free agent."
      Now, as for "it ain't a game, it's only practice", that's a lazy mans mentality. Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, Kareem, Wilt, even Steph Curry worked/works hard in practice. It's part of being a champion and being able to lead. Randy almost got a ring because he got lucky and latched on with Brady, 18-1. Unfortunately, Calvin was stuck in Detroit, the most snake bitten team outside of the NY Jets. You must be a younger man, because older folks, like myself know, working hard is the way to team greatness. There is nothing to individual greatness if it does not contribute to team success.

  • @kennymorelandiii9406
    @kennymorelandiii9406 Год назад

    Randy's first 9 years = 676 catches for 10,700 yards and 101 touchdowns, yards per catch avg - 15.8, yards per game average- 77.5, catch % 56.1, 10 total fumbles.
    Calvin = 731 catches, 11, 619 yards and 83 touchdowns, yards per catch- 15.9, yards per game- 86.1, catch percentage - 55.7. Fumbles - 14.
    Both were 1st team all pro 3 times in that span (Randy would be all pro again year 10 for a total of 4)
    So Calvin had more catches and yards but Moss had 18 more touchdowns in his first 9 years which is a large amount.
    Moss is better and that's not including the additional 306 catches for 4,592 yards and 55 more touchdowns he would add after his 9th year.
    Moss is better. Calvin is one of the greatest though. Its basically breakdown like would the lions trade Calvin for Randy straight up? Nah, but neither would the vikings trade Moss for Johnson.

  • @lockiet7227
    @lockiet7227 Год назад

    Calvin got me thinking. The NFL tends to waste more talents than the NBA. Players used to be stuck and they’re a product of their QB and the Olines at times and they have no choice over who they have at QB or how good their Olines are

    • @kennymorelandiii9406
      @kennymorelandiii9406 Год назад

      Ehhhh not sure I really agree with all that. NBA can waste talent as well if you don't surround a player with enough help and opposing team can just iso and focus on stopping just 1-2 threats. Plenty of players in the NBA have had bad coaching or bad gms or didn't get to play with a good PG or someone capable of really creating opportunities to feed others the ball in good opportunities.
      Also it's just basically impossible to compare the two sports. There is always players that are what ifs in every league like what if this guy stayed healthy, what if he had a good coach or good talent around them etc. The absolute legends get it done regardless though

  • @elijah.j3288
    @elijah.j3288 11 месяцев назад

    Yuck

  • @FredoGranados13
    @FredoGranados13 Год назад +2

    who cares

  • @nickshearer3091
    @nickshearer3091 Год назад +2

    Give me any moss. Give me #18 washed up Oakland moss over any version of #81. Both great but Moss was that guy!

    • @kennymorelandiii9406
      @kennymorelandiii9406 Год назад

      I mean I'd take Moss over Johnson as well but this is a really stupid take.
      Moss on raiders 2 seasons - 102 catches for 1, 558 yards and 11 tds.
      Johnson in 2011 and 2012 - 218 catches for !!! 3,645 yards and 21 touchdowns.
      So...you would take Moss's time in Oakland vs those back to back seasons of CJ? Dummmb dumb du dumb

  • @bofi1280
    @bofi1280 Год назад

    Y'all think Deion could guard Moss?

  • @youlikedyourowncomment5151
    @youlikedyourowncomment5151 Год назад

    One things for sure theyre both quitters

  • @subbzdubbz1241
    @subbzdubbz1241 Год назад +2

    Calvin played with the lions and made the HoF in just 9 seasons. He's the 2nd youngest HoF inductee in NFL history behind Gale Sayers. Calvin worked harder and was a more complete route runner. Calvin actually run blocked. Moss is great but he also played on some stacked teams. I can't give it to moss because the one time he was on a bad team in Oakland he gave up and took his ball and went home. Calvin played with orlovsky, Shaun Hill, drew Stanton, ancient Culpepper lol he never had Brain billick or Josh Mcdaniels OC, Cris Carter, Wes Welker with prime Brady and a belichek defense. Football is a team game and for Calvin to do what he did with being triple teamed and having coverages completely rolled over to his side is insane. MEGATRON ALL DAY AND TWICE ON SUNDAYS!!!

    • @kennymorelandiii9406
      @kennymorelandiii9406 Год назад

      Calvin had some terrible qbs here and there but did have Stafford for most of his career so it's a little disingenuous to least just scrub qbs for Calvin without mentioning Matthew Stafford who in my opinion with his rocket arm and willingness to stand in the pocket despite he was going to get laid out to give just that bit extra time to throw to Calvin was big.
      Moss is the better WR but not by a landslide or anything. It's close. You can make the argument for Calvin. Calvin was definitely the better leader and teammate without a doubt

    • @kennymorelandiii9406
      @kennymorelandiii9406 Год назад

      Randy's first 9 years = 676 catches for 10,700 yards and 101 touchdowns, yards per catch avg - 15.8, yards per game average- 77.5, catch % 56.1, 10 total fumbles.
      Calvin = 731 catches, 11, 619 yards and 83 touchdowns, yards per catch- 15.9, yards per game- 86.1, catch percentage - 55.7. Fumbles - 14.
      Both were 1st team all pro 3 times in that span (Randy would be all pro again year 10 for a total of 4)
      So Calvin had more catches and yards but Moss had 18 more touchdowns in his first 9 years which is a large amount.
      Moss is better and that's not including the additional 306 catches for 4,592 yards and 55 more touchdowns he would add after his 9th year.
      Moss is better. Calvin is one of the greatest though. Its basically breakdown like would the lions trade Calvin for Randy straight up? Nah, but neither would the vikings trade Moss for Johnson.