@@charlestrujillo9717 the 3rd one was 37 year old Rich Gannon who was a journey man before JR. go look at his numbers without Jerry. Also Jerry put up better stats with his backups when Young and Montana went down. Including Steve Bono. & Elvis Gerbac who looked like HOF QBs with Rice and got huge contracts. Go look at Steve Young’s stats with & without Rice. It’s staggering. And Rice was much better than Randy in the playoffs
Oddly enough Devante kinda always reminded me of Reggie. I feel like Devante will have a long great career like Reggie and still be producing up in his 30s.
It’s not a disgrace wrs usually wait a while. Marvin waited 8 years to get in. Reggie was not Marvin he can wait a little longer. And yeah I grew up a colts fan during the Peyton Marvin Reggie Dallas Clark era I know those players pretty well
Jerry played with 2 hall of famers qbs for most of his career. Along with solid defense. And great coaching. He’s good but schemes has to be factored in as well. He still either 1A or 2
@@drewmole3713Moss played with the greatest Hall of Fame quarterback ever and coach. Yet he still comes away with no ring. And Randall Cunningham was no slouch either. Jerry was just better all around.
This is the problem with the modern world, we keep confusing talent and ability with PERFORMANCE. Randy Moss is arguably the most talented WR of all time, but that doesn't make him the GREATEST. Randy COULD have been the greatest if he had applied himself across his career, but he DIDNT. Jerry wasn't as talented as Randy....but Jerry was clearly talented, AND worked hard, AND performed at the highest level - for longer than Randy. Jerry is so far beyond everyone else that we're in a pass happy league that caters to offense, and he has records that STILL haven't been broken. THATS why he's the goat, THE GOAT!
Fr, like, Jerry Rice was a thousand yard receiver at FORTY YEARS OLD. Randy was awesome at his peak, he was a true freak of nature. But when it was time for GREATNESS, in the BIGGEST MOMENTS, Jerry had his biggest games. His super bowl performances were INSANE
Moss proved what could happen if he played with an Elite QB like Brady. Broke records and went 16-0. Imagine that his whole career like Rice with Montana and Young.
Moss was part of his own problem. He also broke records that Jerry set, in more games buddy. (23tds in 16 games, vs 22 in 12). Not even a discussion on who's better.
Rice also had rich gannon as well and Tim rattay. Jeff Garcia. Even though Jeff wasn’t a scrub and was good to decent seasons. I will never forget Jerry at 40 out there getting off against ppl like champ Bailey etc.
Jerry Rice was the 🐐 because he worked harder than anyone else… he was never the fastest, the tallest, couldn’t jump the highest, but he put the work in regardless of who the QB was… Steve Young was a HOF because of JR. point blank period… Randy and TO were physically more talented than JR ever was but the difference is the there character/leadership when things didn’t go there way and how they acted in the moment/adversity and that’s what the stats show you… when you quit on your team or try to call out your QB you can’t complain after the fact at the QB’s you had throwing to you….
@Hypee559 no he's not. He had the most talent. Not the best. It's Jerry. Then Randy. Then T.O. then Megatron. Then Marvin. With last 3 being interchangeable. But Jerry at1 Randy at 2 definitely without a doubt. Who was most talented? Randy Then Megatron. Then T.O. but talented doesn't always translate to great.
@@Hypee559 As talented as Randy was, when it matter the most Randy didn't show up . Jason Seahorn shut Randy down in the NFC Championship game . With the 49ers Randy didn't show up in the Superbowl.
That makes no sense. Working harder doesn't make u better. The other guys are naturally talented, which makes them better. The qb complaining, etc, is irrelevant.
@@357twilson Moss is the highest scoring player on the two highest scoring offenses of all time, the 1998 Minnesota Vikings and the 2007 New England Patriots.
Jerry's stats speak for themselves, but he did have two Hall of fame QB's in Montana and Young for 16 years, while Randy had Brady for barely 2 yrs, and in the 1st year set the single-season TD record for WR and helped lead them to 17-0 season up until the SB.
Jerry has numbers that will never be touched. To put that in perspective a WR would have to average 1,000 yards / 10 TD’s per year for 23 years in order to break Jerry’s records… Jerry also has Super Bowl mvp and can run the whole route tree crisp and fast through the whole game. I’m sorry Randy was great but he was running 1 route and catching with his chest every time. No disrespect to Randy but I don’t even think it’s as close as some people try to make it lol Jerry is the GOAT nfl player when you put accomplishments, talent, stats and everything all together
@@jthizzle5586”Jerry didn’t have consistent hands” yet has 3 Super Bowl rings, more all pro selections, mvp votes and more yards, catches and touchdowns than any wide receiver in the history of the nfl…. Make that make sense.
Putting megatron ahead of T O is insane, and Owens was better than Moss to. Tron had 2 playoff appearances and 0 playoff wins. Tron went 0-16. He racked up a bunch of meaningless yards!
Randy Moss and Barry Sanders are the two best football players, that I've ever seen play live in person! From 98 to 2004... I got to watch Moss play at the Silverdome and at Ford Field and he's the best to ever do it! You'll never change my mind on that!
You don't need to change your mind because those guys are fun to watch each have great highlights but Jerry rice Emmit Smith simply outworked people became and excelled at what a lot of casual fans think is boring that old school mentality repetition and fundamentals instead loving the flashy highlights. Think about it most fans especially younger loved Barry make guys miss and randy moss for his immense talent . Ask Michael Irvin about how great Jerry rice was and how consistent he was like a psycho in practice his routes wile everybody's takin it easy
Lack of respect for history, which happens to every generation. Now, certain things from back then are exaggerated because people want to protect what they've witnessed without realizing certain aspects are better now. When it comes to Jerry Rice, he's still #1 randy was more spectacular and the greater athlete. 20 years of dominance speaks for itself
@@m.nothing5865 Not true. Older generations have seen multiple generations of players play. Today's lazy kids think the world didn't start until they entered into it and their current heroes are the best. Most are too lazy to do the reserach, and frankly, today's young people have an inferior knowledge not only of the game itself but the way it's played.
The stats show that Rice in his early 30s was a more dominant receiver than Moss at his peak in his early 20s!!! Rice’s averages from ages 30-34 (from 1992-1996) Receptions per season: 105 rec (6.6 rec per game) Yards per season: 1,461 yards (91 yards per game) Touchdowns per season: 12.2 tds (0.76 tds per game) Moss’ averages from ages 21-25 (from 1998-2002) Receptions per season: 83 rec (5.2 rec per game) Yards per season: 1,349 yards (84 yards per game) Touchdowns per season: 12 tds (0.75 tds per game)
I wasn't aware he had absolute scrubs and literally over a dozen except for 2 years of his career throwing him the ball. If we are being objective it's Randy and everyone else had stellar QB play the vast majority of their career. Now that I'm aware I agree he is better than Randy...
@@WhyFacetattoos All right. Let's get *objective* : RICE VS MOSS! RICE: 303 G / 1,549 REC / 22,895 YDS / 197 TD / 3 Super Bowls / 13 Pro Bowls & SBMVP MOSS: 218 G / 982 REC / 15,292 YDS / 156 TD / 0 Super Bowls / 6 Pro Bowls Moss was great for his era, and a once in a generation player. Rice, however, is once in a lifetime. The numbers don't lie. Is this *objective* enough for you?
@@xpCarlo36 who was Jerry's quarterback I didn't see you mention that because it would obliterate your own argument unless if receivers throw themselves the ball
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@@9ChefGerm7. yes i was talking to you. I actually had you in mind when I left this comment. I said to myself " I bet chef Germ doesnt know this so I must comment so that he sees this."
So in basketball they say Jordan is the goat because the first thing that comes up is 6 titles and 6 finals mvps. JerryRice a 3 time Super Bowl champ, super bowl mvp , won league mvp and that’s without saying anything about his catches, yards and touchdowns. But he thinks Moss is the goat with none of that on his resume
@@ti84satact12 no they’re not really team awards. In fact those accolades hold *much more weight* when it comes to individual greatness than just strictly “count da ringzzz”
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That is the beautiful thing about having something like RUclips at your fingertips. You can easily compare film/videos, stats etc. Jerry wins hands down when you do.
In my opinion Jerry rice stands alone and then everybody else! I can’t even put moss over T.O. Moss had GOD given ability. He was fast and he could go up top, that’s where it stops! He wasn’t the best route runner, wasn’t a great blocker, and he certainly quit and took plays off! T.O gave you all of that!!
@@quintbakerjr2786but Jerry Rice didn’t wear gloves in his first 3 seasons. So the stickum on the gloves completely erases that argument. The third season when Rice didn’t wear gloves, he had 23 touchdowns in 12 games.
@@357twilson You can use stickem without gloves, players did it all the time. Just a little on the finger tips and palm. Jerry is the one who said it, I don't know why people are struggling to understand this when Jerry told on himself about it
Randy Moss stats don't even compare to Jerry Rice's it's not even close. Jerry set the touchdown record in a shortened season it took Randy all 16 games where Rice did it in 8. Randy has the touchdown record in a season now but rice has over 100 NFL records Randy has one.
Don't get me wrong I believe Rice is the greatest. But the argument for Moss is very legit and should be respected. If Moss played about 9yrs with Brady, or a 9 year healthy Culpepper what would his numbers look like. Jerry primarily played with two HOF QB'S
@@derekflowers3803 How can Jerry be the best by cheating? When was cheating acceptable? Jerry had back to back hof qb's and still cheated, moss had one and look at what he did his first season with him
@@So_Oneal you seee that kind of mentality doesnt maximize what a player can achieve. there are certain players that love everything about the game and you have players that are more talented than everybody
Can’t be the goat when you say I play hard when I want to. I’ll never forget when he gave up on catching favre 500 TD when favre got a flag on the play. Moss just stopped running when he was able to get it.
True but he was so talented people overlook it. Jerry is the goat but I think if moss was in Jerry type situation for majority of his career e.g brady I think he could’ve gotten closer to Jerry numbers
@phenomfacemob1011 B.S. so running backs with SB rings like Roger Craig is better than Barry Sanders ????? Football is the ultimate team sport G.O.A.T is a individual thing
He has a solid list but there have been so many great wide receivers. I actually think it's the position with the closest degree of separation. It's different strengths from route running, to hands, to YAC. It's very hard to name just 5, because some spots change when I think about. LOL. But my top 10 are: 1. Randy Moss 2. Jerry Rice 3. T.O. 4. Larry Fitzgerald 5. Andre Johnson 6. Megatron 7. Marvin Harrison 8. Steve Smith 9. Julio Jones 10. Hines Ward
Highlights over production is the world we live in now. Did Moss play 20 years and have a 1K season at 36? Better yet how many rings Moss got? I’m 21 years old and I know better than this nonsense 🤣🤣
No he’s not there isn’t a statistic you can use To say that …23 tds? Rice had 22 in a 12 game season . Part of being a great athlete is longevity and attitude . Rice is far superior and it’s not close
Rice putting up 22 TDs in 12 games is absolutely impressive I agree but the DBs in 1987 was not as good as the DBs in 2007. When Moss broke the touchdown record he was facing better talent then Jerry. Also Jerry wasn't fast he had football speed and he had a great system around him. Randy Moss's first year in New England he put up 23 touchdowns that's not him even getting used to the system within a few years.
Jerry Rice would get locked down in this era and be a non factor. The DBs back then were not nearly as good as they are now, and Jerry ran a 4.8. He had a very long career and accomplished alot, but he isn’t the best wide receiver to ever put on cleats. That’s Randy Moss.
Dion sanders the greatest CB of all time would disagree….also this is an era when the DBs could knock the heads off the WR and not get a penalty flag …..at 40 years old Jerry rice caught 92 passes for 1200 yards. At 33 Randy moss was out of the league . Also rich Gannon and Jeff Garcia were hardly HoF QBs but trust me it’s no coincidence Steve young and Joe Montana don’t make the HOF with out Jerry rice .
Randy moss is the greatest receiver to ever play, but Jerry rice work ethic and professionalism and qbs made him have the longer career, but no one is better than moss as a talent
@@Roncash100 but talent doesn’t make you the greatest. You have to earn the title through performance and execution. You can’t dismiss Jerry’s overwhelming numbers based on moss’s once in a generation talent. You’re saying the goat is someone who literally only applied himself for half of his career, and openly stated he only played well when he felt like it (which is why teams got tired of him and why he doesn’t have stats comparable to Jerry)
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This is coming from a diehard Niner fan (if you don’t know Tai Streets JJ Stokes, or Tim McKyer STFU you ain’t a real Niner fan): based on PURE GOD GIVEN TALENT, Randy is the most talented WR of all time. But he ain’t the GOAT cause it’s WAYYY more than just talent. He got more God given talent than Jerry, but that’s basically it. Jerry DESTROYS EVERYONE in every other category and it ain’t a conversation.
Exactly!!!! (Not in order) Moss, Jerry, Megatron, T.O are the definite top 4 WR of all time. I had Julio next for top 5, however, Tyreek is just crushing it..
That greater than sign is facing the wrong way.
Exactly lol
I guess one of the producers isn't very 'sharpe'
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glad we're all in agreement here lmao
At least someone on the team could have gotten that. Geezush, Christ.
They have it right. Jerry over Moss
Jerry Rice at age 40 had 1000 yards in a season. He didn’t have to jump over DB’s because his route running was A+
I believe that season he also caught a touchdown and I think he broke 1 or both kneecaps landing on them with the touchdown.
Jerry Rice was also the leading receiver for 3 different QBs that won the MVP and went to the Superbowl, in 3 different decades. Which is insane
@@dimitrythomas4158so he played with 3 MVP quarterbacks 😂 insane luck. Montana, Young and who else?
@@charlestrujillo9717 the 3rd one was 37 year old Rich Gannon who was a journey man before JR. go look at his numbers without Jerry. Also Jerry put up better stats with his backups when Young and Montana went down. Including Steve Bono. & Elvis Gerbac who looked like HOF QBs with Rice and got huge contracts. Go look at Steve Young’s stats with & without Rice. It’s staggering.
And Rice was much better than Randy in the playoffs
Randy still better
Reggie Wayne not being a HOFer is a disgrace
agreed
Oddly enough Devante kinda always reminded me of Reggie. I feel like Devante will have a long great career like Reggie and still be producing up in his 30s.
Give it time I think he will make it in eventually just not early. WR tough to make HOF in the NFL though.
I agree but I think he’ll eventually get in
It’s not a disgrace wrs usually wait a while. Marvin waited 8 years to get in. Reggie was not Marvin he can wait a little longer. And yeah I grew up a colts fan during the Peyton Marvin Reggie Dallas Clark era I know those players pretty well
Finally Marvin Harrison gets his respect from another great WR
bro most wide receiver discussions, usually bring him up
Jerry was a HOF'er before dude was even born and then dropped another HOF career on top
Year 9 of his career he was a certified first ballot HoFer
Yep when he joined the raiders at age 40 he still had 1200 yards receiving 😂
Jerry played with 2 hall of famers qbs for most of his career. Along with solid defense. And great coaching. He’s good but schemes has to be factored in as well. He still either 1A or 2
@@drewmole3713 corners today would give jerry problems
@@drewmole3713Moss played with the greatest Hall of Fame quarterback ever and coach. Yet he still comes away with no ring. And Randall Cunningham was no slouch either. Jerry was just better all around.
This is the problem with the modern world, we keep confusing talent and ability with PERFORMANCE. Randy Moss is arguably the most talented WR of all time, but that doesn't make him the GREATEST. Randy COULD have been the greatest if he had applied himself across his career, but he DIDNT. Jerry wasn't as talented as Randy....but Jerry was clearly talented, AND worked hard, AND performed at the highest level - for longer than Randy.
Jerry is so far beyond everyone else that we're in a pass happy league that caters to offense, and he has records that STILL haven't been broken. THATS why he's the goat, THE GOAT!
Couldn't agree more
@@tonefaulcon9729 Preach!
Fr, like, Jerry Rice was a thousand yard receiver at FORTY YEARS OLD. Randy was awesome at his peak, he was a true freak of nature. But when it was time for GREATNESS, in the BIGGEST MOMENTS, Jerry had his biggest games. His super bowl performances were INSANE
Basically Jerry OUTWORKED everybody else
Yes these type misconceptions irks my soul😂
Jerry Rice ain’t there ain’t no Rushmore
Facts
Correct
Jerry's not even the best !!!
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@@austinaldridge7454 you must be 14 years old
Math ain’t mathing based on caption 😂
Randy moss and cris Carter are the goats💯
@@MattMatos-qy2ij Nike should’ve gave cris carter a glove because his hands was like a football magnet
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Math matching to me
Moss proved what could happen if he played with an Elite QB like Brady. Broke records and went 16-0. Imagine that his whole career like Rice with Montana and Young.
Moss was part of his own problem. He also broke records that Jerry set, in more games buddy. (23tds in 16 games, vs 22 in 12). Not even a discussion on who's better.
@@jaust9077no doubt about that. Jerry Rice was on pace to score 29 touchdowns in that 12 game season.
@@TonySiragusa99imagine he played 17 games during that time. Baring injury I’m am gonna say Jerry gets 30 TDs. Over 2k yards
Rice also had rich gannon as well and Tim rattay. Jeff Garcia. Even though Jeff wasn’t a scrub and was good to decent seasons. I will never forget Jerry at 40 out there getting off against ppl like champ Bailey etc.
@@jayjohnson7646 that would have been absolutely insane but definitely plausible.
Jerry Rice was the 🐐 because he worked harder than anyone else… he was never the fastest, the tallest, couldn’t jump the highest, but he put the work in regardless of who the QB was… Steve Young was a HOF because of JR. point blank period… Randy and TO were physically more talented than JR ever was but the difference is the there character/leadership when things didn’t go there way and how they acted in the moment/adversity and that’s what the stats show you… when you quit on your team or try to call out your QB you can’t complain after the fact at the QB’s you had throwing to you….
That’s cool. Randy still the best.
@Hypee559 no he's not. He had the most talent. Not the best. It's Jerry. Then Randy. Then T.O. then Megatron. Then Marvin. With last 3 being interchangeable. But Jerry at1 Randy at 2 definitely without a doubt. Who was most talented? Randy Then Megatron. Then T.O. but talented doesn't always translate to great.
@@Hypee559 As talented as Randy was, when it matter the most Randy didn't show up . Jason Seahorn shut Randy down in the NFC Championship game . With the 49ers Randy didn't show up in the Superbowl.
That makes no sense. Working harder doesn't make u better. The other guys are naturally talented, which makes them better. The qb complaining, etc, is irrelevant.
@@BlackMusicGenre wow you named 2 instances, he clearly never showed up.
I appreciate what he said about the founding fathers in his list.
Jerry slander is no bueno he had regular season like performances in super bowls
Jerry Rice isn’t only the best wide receiver to ever play the game, but he’s in the conversation of best football player to ever play the game.
@dcbarrku4882 it's really not a conversation. Jerry Rice is the greatest football player ever.
There is no conversation because Brady is the greatest football player ever💯
@@sugarbear1225 Brady's just the greatest of his era.
@@dlt2k7wrong lol
@@dlt2k7Jerry wasn’t even best on his team. Stop giving your opinions if they’re that off lol
Moss is the most naturally gifted receiver in NFL history. The only thing missing was a Super Bowl ring 💍!!
How many guys on a NFL team?
In every sport, there's a lot more Legends that don't have a ring but that shouldn't shade their greatness. (examples; Butkus, Moss, Barkley...)
If Moss is so gifted, how come he didn’t perform better than Rice?? Moss couldn’t do anything better than Rice.
@@357twilson 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😂
@@357twilson Moss is the highest scoring player on the two highest scoring offenses of all time, the 1998 Minnesota Vikings and the 2007 New England Patriots.
I really appreciate the love for Marvin Harrison. Him and Reggie Wayne were some the coldest WRs I’ve ever seen play
Now this is a guy that needs a podcast very well of a speaker and educational‼️
Shout out to Deron Williams!! (Utah fan)
Randy's years in Oakland, SF and Tennessee count. 😂
Nah he retired once he got to the Bay😂😂
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Jerry's stats speak for themselves, but he did have two Hall of fame QB's in Montana and Young for 16 years, while Randy had Brady for barely 2 yrs, and in the 1st year set the single-season TD record for WR and helped lead them to 17-0 season up until the SB.
Love this guy. Truly a thoughtful person.
Randy moss was a whole era
Rice is GOAT hands down! Not even close...
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@@erikpuka2627- you’re dumb!!!
Randy better
Randy was better. Stop with the nostalgia
Moss
Thank you! I’ve been saying this for years and people think I’m crazy
Randy is def my fav WR of all-time. but he is not above Rice, objectively
Jerry rice cheated. He used Stick em.. look it up
@@AnonymousGM he actually admitted it. i am aware. there is a reason he isnt my favorite, Moss is. but Rice stats are insane
@@KrucialsUniverse the man was knowingly using a banded substance to help him catch the ball.. lol he is not the goat.. give me Moss..
@@AnonymousGM
They all did jack ball. Look it up
Could not have been said better
That Audemars Piguet Royal Oak he is wearing is SIIIICCKKK!!!
Has the Best interviews hands down.
Jerry has numbers that will never be touched. To put that in perspective a WR would have to average 1,000 yards / 10 TD’s per year for 23 years in order to break Jerry’s records… Jerry also has Super Bowl mvp and can run the whole route tree crisp and fast through the whole game. I’m sorry Randy was great but he was running 1 route and catching with his chest every time. No disrespect to Randy but I don’t even think it’s as close as some people try to make it lol Jerry is the GOAT nfl player when you put accomplishments, talent, stats and everything all together
Jerry>Moss all day. Jerry is the GOAT football player ever. People need to stop disrespecting him. It’s insane
Old head Take Randy for the culture
RANDY MOSS CAUGHT WITH HIS CHEST ,JERRY RICE CAUGHT WITH HIS HANDS.
JERRY HARDEST WORKING AND BEST ROUTE RUNNING.
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To any raider fan that's old enough to remember.....Moss isn't Jerry Rice. Jerry Rice is the guy you want in that #1 spot.
I’m a niners fan but Jerry didn’t have consistent hands. Plus he admitted to cheating and used stick-em… so I wouldn’t put him as the goat!
You right. Moss air Jerry, and Jerry ain't moss. Moss #1
@@MajinBuusha😂😂😂😂 moss number one yet Jerry Rice leads every receiver in the history of the nfl in td, catches and yards
@@jthizzle5586”Jerry didn’t have consistent hands” yet has 3 Super Bowl rings, more all pro selections, mvp votes and more yards, catches and touchdowns than any wide receiver in the history of the nfl…. Make that make sense.
Putting megatron ahead of T O is insane, and Owens was better than Moss to. Tron had 2 playoff appearances and 0 playoff wins. Tron went 0-16. He racked up a bunch of meaningless yards!
Randy Moss and Barry Sanders are the two best football players, that I've ever seen play live in person! From 98 to 2004... I got to watch Moss play at the Silverdome and at Ford Field and he's the best to ever do it! You'll never change my mind on that!
I agree with you.
You don't need to change your mind because those guys are fun to watch each have great highlights but Jerry rice Emmit Smith simply outworked people became and excelled at what a lot of casual fans think is boring that old school mentality repetition and fundamentals instead loving the flashy highlights. Think about it most fans especially younger loved Barry make guys miss and randy moss for his immense talent . Ask Michael Irvin about how great Jerry rice was and how consistent he was like a psycho in practice his routes wile everybody's takin it easy
Jerry and Barry
I would add Lawrence Taylor and Tom Brady
I mean talent wise yeah ..
I don’t think moss better than TO he wasn’t as flashy but a dog that gave the game everything he had imo
Y’all gotta understand how ignorant young people are. The things they didn’t see, they pretend never happened.
Exactly why they should not be in certain spaces because of the lack of real life experience
THE PROBLEM WITH THIS GENERATION. THEY LACK CHARACTER AND PERSONALITY. he can walk in a city AND NO ONE WOULD RECOGNIZE HIM OR THEM
Lack of respect for history, which happens to every generation. Now, certain things from back then are exaggerated because people want to protect what they've witnessed without realizing certain aspects are better now. When it comes to Jerry Rice, he's still #1 randy was more spectacular and the greater athlete. 20 years of dominance speaks for itself
@@ced9938nah, older generations lack respect for the present.
@@m.nothing5865 Not true. Older generations have seen multiple generations of players play. Today's lazy kids think the world didn't start until they entered into it and their current heroes are the best. Most are too lazy to do the reserach, and frankly, today's young people have an inferior knowledge not only of the game itself but the way it's played.
The stats show that Rice in his early 30s was a more dominant receiver than Moss at his peak in his early 20s!!!
Rice’s averages from ages 30-34 (from 1992-1996)
Receptions per season: 105 rec (6.6 rec per game)
Yards per season: 1,461 yards (91 yards per game)
Touchdowns per season: 12.2 tds (0.76 tds per game)
Moss’ averages from ages 21-25 (from 1998-2002)
Receptions per season: 83 rec (5.2 rec per game)
Yards per season: 1,349 yards (84 yards per game)
Touchdowns per season: 12 tds (0.75 tds per game)
You could tell he never saw Jerry Rice play football
He doesn’t care and a lot of people feel the same way bill Russell who has 9 rings and Michale Jordan is still people’s number one in basketball
Cornerback play was weaker
@@senseihndrxxjust because someone feels a certain way doesn’t mean that’s what it is
@@budvibes3367 are you…are you tryna to prove a pointless point…
@@budvibes3367 and it clearly dose no matter how delusional that person may be it’s all opinionated
Rice to moss! Rice had 20yrs of excellence!
Football Gods didn’t agree with this blasphemy that’s why your graphic says Jerry is the GOAT 😂😂
Crazy background! S/o to this brother.
Rice has an expensive set of Super Bowl knuckles that state otherwise.
I wasn't aware he had absolute scrubs and literally over a dozen except for 2 years of his career throwing him the ball. If we are being objective it's Randy and everyone else had stellar QB play the vast majority of their career. Now that I'm aware I agree he is better than Randy...
Moss
@@WhyFacetattoos All right. Let's get *objective* : RICE VS MOSS!
RICE: 303 G / 1,549 REC / 22,895 YDS / 197 TD / 3 Super Bowls / 13 Pro Bowls & SBMVP
MOSS: 218 G / 982 REC / 15,292 YDS / 156 TD / 0 Super Bowls / 6 Pro Bowls
Moss was great for his era, and a once in a generation player. Rice, however, is once in a lifetime.
The numbers don't lie. Is this *objective* enough for you?
@@xpCarlo36 who was Jerry's quarterback I didn't see you mention that because it would obliterate your own argument unless if receivers throw themselves the ball
@@xpCarlo36 are we also going to live in the world where offensive line doesn't matter for running backs?
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Mount Rushmore is only FOUR people. I knew yall was gonna get this wrong
shannon even told him before that rushmore was 4 and still failed lol
Why you say yall ? Who are you ?
@@9ChefGerm7. yes i was talking to you. I actually had you in mind when I left this comment. I said to myself " I bet chef Germ doesnt know this so I must comment so that he sees this."
It doesn’t need to be literal Einstein. The term Mount Rushmore has evolved to mean, GOATS…rather than just a specific number
Top 5 >>>>>> Rushmore 4
Larry Fitzgerald. Is ranked #2 of all time behind Jerry Rice
Very good speaker
I’m 33 and I watched Marvin and Peyton a lot growing up
As a Pats fan who loves Randy, Jerry Rice is the goat WR. He played 20 years and was great for a long time
Moss is the Greatest ever. No Question no debate.
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So in basketball they say Jordan is the goat because the first thing that comes up is 6 titles and 6 finals mvps. JerryRice a 3 time Super Bowl champ, super bowl mvp , won league mvp and that’s without saying anything about his catches, yards and touchdowns. But he thinks Moss is the goat with none of that on his resume
different sport. there is more 1 single person can affect on the court. football relies more on the whole
The ring argument is a lazy and erroneous way to evaluate how good individual players are.
@@Zaneybaby02Say it again for the people in the back.
@@Terror832how about finals MVPs and MVPs ? Are those team awards too?
@@ti84satact12 no they’re not really team awards. In fact those accolades hold *much more weight* when it comes to individual greatness than just strictly “count da ringzzz”
Someone tell my cat and i where we can tell this man he has two brand new fans. You da man Devante. Real talk.
Rice is the goat its not even close
He articulated this very well
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Yeah, but whose the best receiver?
@@BigstickNickJerry M F ing Rice. That's who.
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Rice the 🐐! Moss more entertaining
Love the fact people give randy his colour's even though no superbowl, im scottish got into nfl about 6 year ago love the game ,randy is special
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My Top 4 WR ALL TIME - RICE , T.O , MOSS , MEGATRON
Randy moss is the goat to us Millennials because that’s who we grew up watching
That is the beautiful thing about having something like RUclips at your fingertips. You can easily compare film/videos, stats etc. Jerry wins hands down when you do.
you should never be biased to a generation
i am way closer to Jerry's age than Randy's age and i KNOW Randy is way better. i have eyes and i saw both and Randy and Calvin are both better.
@@AbeM-jm8yoNah. Tyreek, TO, Moss, Calvin, Marvin were better. More explosive. Jerry was like a lesser Marvin Harrison.
How
Rice vs Moss
50+ yard touchdowns
Rice: 36 tds
Moss: 29 tds
30+ yard touchdowns
Rice: 77 tds
Moss: 66 tds
20-29 yard touchdowns
Rice: 31 tds
Moss: 21 tds
10-19 yard touchdowns
Rice: 38 tds
Moss: 26 tds
Under 10 yard touchdowns
Rice: 62
Moss: 44 tds
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In my opinion Jerry rice stands alone and then everybody else! I can’t even put moss over T.O. Moss had GOD given ability. He was fast and he could go up top, that’s where it stops! He wasn’t the best route runner, wasn’t a great blocker, and he certainly quit and took plays off! T.O gave you all of that!!
Somebody on your team doesn’t know the > sign lmao
There would be no moss without rice,who do you think Randy was idolizing growing up hmmm? just saying
Problem with athletes being commentators is they not fan enough to know their history.
Sometimes people act like something didn't happen if they didn't see it in real time
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Jerry the goat and it’s statistically unfathomable to even believe that there could be any credible opinion on anyone else.
I think there could be a lot more of they cheated and use stickum like Jerry did. Can't be the goat by cheating
He’s so far ahead that it’s a FACT that he’s the greatest. No opinions to be accepted.
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But if Jerry cheated to get over half his records you would still count that????
@@quintbakerjr2786but Jerry Rice didn’t wear gloves in his first 3 seasons. So the stickum on the gloves completely erases that argument. The third season when Rice didn’t wear gloves, he had 23 touchdowns in 12 games.
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You can use stickem without gloves, players did it all the time. Just a little on the finger tips and palm. Jerry is the one who said it, I don't know why people are struggling to understand this when Jerry told on himself about it
I never seen Davante Adams in an interview or anything. He seems like such a legit down to earth person
Randy Moss stats don't even compare to Jerry Rice's it's not even close. Jerry set the touchdown record in a shortened season it took Randy all 16 games where Rice did it in 8. Randy has the touchdown record in a season now but rice has over 100 NFL records Randy has one.
But he cheated to attain how many of those records???
Please explain the 8 seasons games that Rice so called played in.
@@quintbakerjr2786 Jerry never cheated he was the hardest working receiver in history you clown. You must be trolling to even say that.
Don't get me wrong I believe Rice is the greatest. But the argument for Moss is very legit and should be respected. If Moss played about 9yrs with Brady, or a 9 year healthy Culpepper what would his numbers look like. Jerry primarily played with two HOF QB'S
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How can Jerry be the best by cheating? When was cheating acceptable? Jerry had back to back hof qb's and still cheated, moss had one and look at what he did his first season with him
Randy is the goat
Jerry is easily the 🐐, he's the standard bearer
How can't be because he cheated to attain how many of those records???
Exactly my top 4 wide receivers but not in his order and I will take Chris Carter over Marvin Harrison
Anyone else notice the error in the thumbnail?
Watching Randy Moss highlights makes me feel cray z, asl ... He was cold blooded
Prime 98 Moss over any receiver; just throw the ball in his vicinity
He was just a deep threat didn't go across the middle
@@seaniveroni5579 Didn't need to!!!
@@So_Oneal yes he did
@@So_Oneal you seee that kind of mentality doesnt maximize what a player can achieve. there are certain players that love everything about the game and you have players that are more talented than everybody
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I like this dude!
I agree with the thumbnail. Randy Moss is less than Jerry Rice.
Just proving Adams judgement and decision making is worse than we thought. 🤦♂️
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It’s not a crime to have a personal preference and placing Randy over Jerry is not the craziest thing
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Finally someone said it
Can’t be the goat when you say I play hard when I want to. I’ll never forget when he gave up on catching favre 500 TD when favre got a flag on the play. Moss just stopped running when he was able to get it.
True but he was so talented people overlook it. Jerry is the goat but I think if moss was in Jerry type situation for majority of his career e.g brady I think he could’ve gotten closer to Jerry numbers
U can't be be the goat at ANYTHING if you don't have RINGS
It was proven that what he said was completely taken out of context.
@phenomfacemob1011 B.S. so running backs with SB rings like Roger Craig is better than Barry Sanders ????? Football is the ultimate team sport G.O.A.T is a individual thing
Disagree. Look at the longevity. It's not even close@@GOATZELWARDBANDWAGON.
He has a solid list but there have been so many great wide receivers. I actually think it's the position with the closest degree of separation. It's different strengths from route running, to hands, to YAC. It's very hard to name just 5, because some spots change when I think about. LOL. But my top 10 are:
1. Randy Moss
2. Jerry Rice
3. T.O.
4. Larry Fitzgerald
5. Andre Johnson
6. Megatron
7. Marvin Harrison
8. Steve Smith
9. Julio Jones
10. Hines Ward
Highlights over production is the world we live in now. Did Moss play 20 years and have a 1K season at 36? Better yet how many rings Moss got? I’m 21 years old and I know better than this nonsense 🤣🤣
You are wrong rice had a 1200 yard 92 catch season at 40 😜
Teams win championship young guy, not one individual. The ring argument is the dumbest thing ever when it comes to football
Jerry Rice has a case for the best football player, period. Randy don't.
No he’s not there isn’t a statistic you can use
To say that …23 tds? Rice had 22 in a 12 game season . Part of being a great athlete is longevity and attitude . Rice is far superior and it’s not close
Rice putting up 22 TDs in 12 games is absolutely impressive I agree but the DBs in 1987 was not as good as the DBs in 2007. When Moss broke the touchdown record he was facing better talent then Jerry. Also Jerry wasn't fast he had football speed and he had a great system around him. Randy Moss's first year in New England he put up 23 touchdowns that's not him even getting used to the system within a few years.
Jerry Rice would get locked down in this era and be a non factor. The DBs back then were not nearly as good as they are now, and Jerry ran a 4.8. He had a very long career and accomplished alot, but he isn’t the best wide receiver to ever put on cleats. That’s Randy Moss.
@@MusicthatsStrange Bruh, Jerry still at the age of 40 caught 1000 yards in a season…
@@kinglewieiii310 don't forget Randy Moss had like 26 different quarterbacks and was still productive af. Jerry had Hall of Fame QBs his whole career.
Dion sanders the greatest CB of all time would disagree….also this is an era when the DBs could knock the heads off the WR and not get a penalty flag …..at 40 years old Jerry rice caught 92 passes for 1200 yards. At 33 Randy moss was out of the league . Also rich Gannon and Jeff Garcia were hardly HoF QBs but trust me it’s no coincidence Steve young and Joe Montana don’t make the HOF with out Jerry rice .
Route running was literally like 4-5 routes in Jerry’s time… that’s like saying bill Russell was more physically dominant than Shaq🤧🤦🏾♂️💯
You do realize Jerry Rice and Randy Moss played in the league together for 7 seasons right?
Um you obviously dont know they wer in the league at the same time for quite a while lol or obviously around to watch it lol
Randy moss is the greatest receiver to ever play, but Jerry rice work ethic and professionalism and qbs made him have the longer career, but no one is better than moss as a talent
But Jerry cheated what if more than half his records are due to cheating??? Moss definitely better!
@@quintbakerjr2786lol
Cris Carter and moss are the goats💯
@@Roncash100 but talent doesn’t make you the greatest. You have to earn the title through performance and execution. You can’t dismiss Jerry’s overwhelming numbers based on moss’s once in a generation talent. You’re saying the goat is someone who literally only applied himself for half of his career, and openly stated he only played well when he felt like it (which is why teams got tired of him and why he doesn’t have stats comparable to Jerry)
@@Roncash100 if Moss was the greatest and had the most talent, how did this happen 👇🏾
Rice vs Moss
50+ yard touchdowns
Rice: 36 tds
Moss: 29 tds
30+ yard touchdowns
Rice: 77 tds
Moss: 66 tds
20-29 yard touchdowns
Rice: 31 tds
Moss: 21 tds
10-19 yard touchdowns
Rice: 38 tds
Moss: 26 tds
Under 10 yard touchdowns
Rice: 62
Moss: 44 tds
His list is incrediblely accurate... dude know his sports
Moss over Rice??? lol...!
Yes
Hard worker in moss over Jerry who cheated yes!!!
Bro everyone has them as #1-2 just some people switch the order around. Relax goober😂
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You can tell the age of the players when they choose Moss over Rice.😂😂😂 Rice is my pick but Moss was that dude🔥
I got Randy over Jerry too. The 49ers had a great system. And Coach. They made Jerry look better than he was..He played with Joe Montana.
Thank you
Idk, if a player who's way past his prime is putting up over 1k in his 40s i think he should be number 1
Can't argue with Rice but Moss my Goat 🤷🏽
That last piece of advice was genius! Pretending to run a different route to throw of the DB.. wow!
T.O
This is coming from a diehard Niner fan (if you don’t know Tai Streets JJ Stokes, or Tim McKyer STFU you ain’t a real Niner fan): based on PURE GOD GIVEN TALENT, Randy is the most talented WR of all time.
But he ain’t the GOAT cause it’s WAYYY more than just talent. He got more God given talent than Jerry, but that’s basically it. Jerry DESTROYS EVERYONE in every other category and it ain’t a conversation.
I’ll play when I feel like it no thank you Jerry Rice
Exactly!!!! (Not in order) Moss, Jerry, Megatron, T.O are the definite top 4 WR of all time. I had Julio next for top 5, however, Tyreek is just crushing it..