Did you even watch the video lol he literally said nothing about his talent it’s about he didn’t give every down his all T.O. Gave it his all Randy himself said that he chose when to actually go hard
Mannnnnn Randy Moss had a tag line for catching the football over other players. We would say damn he got "Mossed" That alone should put him in the Hall of Fame.
Daniel Hill have you ever used stickum? The gloves that randy has are the same if not better than stickum, and rice admitted to it and only used it in his rookie year. I hate people like you who pick and choose what evidence they use.
@@wesleyladda3498 i thnk u misunderstood i was sayn when ppl do the following actions they say moss when u catch over over someone or say kobe when u throw some trash away.
@@luisalejandro2335 And, I don’t argue anyone for having that opinion. But, Shannon said there guys in the HOF that have done things that he won’t name. But, then proceeds to reel off what Randy has supposedly done in his playing career. 🤷🏾♂️
There's also a strong case against TO. Character and on/off field behavior 100% plays a role and should. If tomorrow Aaron Rodgers goes out and shoots up a black church and leaves behind a manifesto that rivals Mein Kampf, would you still support Rodgers going HoF or oppose it? I think 99% of people would oppose it despite his numbers being clear HoF worthy. That means there is a spectrum to judge by, obviously TO's behavior was not shooting up black churches bad so you have to judge what you view as acceptable or not to be HoF. I say no, the asterisk beside TO's name is just to detracting.
Randy Moss was one of the greatest wide receivers I have ever seen play the game. He literally took over the NFL in 1998. Yes Randy Moss is 1st ballot. Also Terrell Owens was 1st ballot. He was so dominant in his prime.
Marcelo Rivadeneira they both should be 1st ballot HOF. TO retired first so he should be in 1st by default. But they both are 1a and 1b best Wr's of all time. Moss could go and get 2 or 3 tds 12 catches on any #1cb and any zone. TO could do the same
The term “Mossed” is a term that every true football fan knows. Randy Moss didn’t win a Super Bowl, but his stats and impact on the league makes him definitely deserving of the hall of fame. It’s not opinion, it’s fact.
That literally wasn’t the point of the video. Both T.O and Moss were extremely talented. But T.O had to wait to get in the Hall because of off the field antics. All the video was saying was, Randy also had off the field antics so he should have to wait as well.
Being put into the HOF is a subjective vote. Therefore it is an opinion and Not a fact. That being said, I believe MOSS should have been a first ballot HOF
Randy was not a good route runner to could do it all go cross the middle go deep and run any route a complete wr to was better than randy moss stats don’t lie...
SuperVince93 No he wasn’t. That comment was also taken out of context. People quoting that comment don’t ever go back and look at the sequencing of questions that led to that comment.
Technically, that's EXACTLY what he said. "First Ballot" means you get in on the first year. He's saying he shouldn't get in on his first year = first ballot
Maybe Teo should be in the Hall of Fame but skip is out his ever-loving mind to say that Randy Moss should not be a first ballot Hall of Famer his records speak for itself
wow...so edgy. What's next, you're going to tell me Adrian Peterson will make the HOF? That Peyton Manning will make it too? Bold statements right there.
It was insane. Moss literally got me back into football. i had drifted away, and then on Thanksgiving '98, i was at my grandmother's house and the game came on, I'm from Dallas, and I had never seen anything like that on the field...it was the most exciting thing I'd ever seen in football. I started watching again and never stopped since...
Man you read my mind..I'm here chuckling, thinking 98 was a crazy year..I didn't have a team(oilers) so I was on the Brett favre bandwagon so I saw randy moss all year long..he was phenomenal..he changed the game..
Saw Randy Moss aginst the Cowboys on a Thanksgiving Day at the old Texas Stadium. He was unstoppable. Cowboys looked like a high school team against him.
I saw him against my Raiders once. Charles Woodson looked like a Boy being outclassed against a Man. It wasn't his fault...he couldn't compete. If not for his attitude Moss would easily have been considered the GOAT of receivers
@@DSPHistoricalSociety lol did yah even watch the video? There’s no way you watched and made this statement. They saying T.O wasn’t a first ballot hall of famer because of off the field issues with the media, all they saying is if that’s the case then it would make no sense for Randy to be a first ballot hall of famer with the things he did which were worse then what T.O did.
I just clicked on this to say if Randy Moss is NOT a 1sr ballet HOF'r then not one single WR better ever be a 1st ballot HOF'r. Randy Moss not only was the best WR I've ever seen but he was dominant, unstoppable and untouchable n he jumped off of the screen at you.
I agree with this. Now, I think it is difficult for me to say who the best football player I've ever seen, but the most TALENTED by far was Moss!!!! Never seen anything like him before or since.
Based off the title you will think it’s none sense. You would have to hear the context to understand the logic. All that said both guys should’ve been 1st ballot
You must be too young to remember Jerry Rice from his 2nd year to his 10th. He dominated the league when you could still light up receivers going across the middle. Rice was better some called him “Jesus in Cleats” for a reason. Not taking anything away from Moss or TO but Rice was The Master of the position. And I don’t think TO would dispute that even though I am not sure they like each other. Just compare Rice’s numbers to any WR that didn’t play the bulk of their career after 2000. Maybe if you take away 75 games from Rice’s career totals Moss & Owens come close. But their shortened careers tell you how much their games were dependent on freakish athleticism (especially Moss). TO was more versatile than Moss (ran all the routes at a high level, a beast blocking, and run over you too with the ball in his hands). So that versatility and with slightly better stats he definitively was better. 🤷🏽♂️. Moss might have been one of your favorites but facts don’t line up to support your opinion that no 1st ballot was better. Larry Fitz who will be first ballot is better also. Let’s just throw out his past 3 seasons. So that has him calling it quits after 2017 (109 receptions & 1,100 yards that year btw 👀). He still finishes with more yards and receptions than Moss. 🤷🏽♂️.
They make a good point about playing every down, and although I agree with them, it just makes Moss look even better as far as overall ability. Owens only had roughly 700 more career yards and played 2 more years than Randy and gave it his all every play. Moss should be a 1st ballot hall of famer, and the fact that T.O wasn't is a damn shame
Antoine Young True that. If Randy gave it his all night in and night out, he would more than likely be the greatest wideout to play the game, in my opinion.
Tom Brady has the single season record for most TD passes.....guess who caught a majority them? Oh that's right, the guy who has the single season record for most TD receptions.....Randy Moss!! Why is this even a discussion?
Bo Rood and? Brady held the record for 6 years til manning surpassed him. Records are meant to be broken, doesn't change the fact that Brady set the record with moss catching 23 of them. Read my other comment before you run your mouth. I was speaking on the 2007 season
Terrell Owens was by far one of the greatest recievers to ever play the game. For the HOF to treat him the way they did was inexcusable. I'm sure T.O. looks back and regrets some of the decisions he made but to hold that against him with the credentials he has as a contributer to greatness of the NFL was ridiculous.
The fact they are even debating if Moss is a first ballot HOFer is BLASPHEMY. There is a reason why every Receiver, kid, man or woman coin the phrase MOSS when outjumping a defender making them look silly.
: Moss was not just a fast tall leaper. Moss found the ball and adjusted almost magically to be in the right position to catch it. Some of those catches look much easier than they really are and most viewers wouldn't realize that most other WRs wouldn't be able to make that play. The hand-eye coordination has to expand to eye-field-defenders-ball-feet-hands coordination.
Just goes to what I've been saying for years. Sportswriters and reporters SHOULD NOT VOTE FOR THE HALL OF FAME !!!!! There have been reporters that have HOF votes that admitted that they didn't vote for a player b/c he wouldn't give the guy an interview or that he wasn't cordial to the media. That's an outrage.
C Williams, I have been saying this for years. Hall of Famers and fans should should determine who gets in. And these guys should not have to wait until they're barely moving to get in.
T.O was a beast they also forget he would take on any blocking scheme Definitely a first ballet. Randy didn’t come across the middle like Owens . But both deserve a first ballet!!
Being a Packer fan from Milwaukee, Randy Moss was an annual nightmare we had to face 2-3 times a year. Ron Wolf changes his whole philosophy on drafting cornerbacks. He knew he needed bigger corners to keep up with Moss- just like in 99’ when he drafted 3 CB in first three picks- Antuan Edwards, Vinson, and Mike McKenzie...And it didn’t even matter. Moss still dominated.
Chris Carter was spot on when he enthusiastically pitched Randy Moss to the Vikings as the most talented athlete he'd ever seen. Randy was a Usain Bolt type wearing cleats - 6'5, 4.2 speed, could turn on a dime, jump right of the gym and exceptional hand eye coordination with those big soft hands. Just imagine if Moss hand Jerry Rice's work ethics.
That’s the problem though, Moss never needed that work ethic. Rice did, the guys that have all the talent almost never put in the effort that these other guys have to
As a former athlete I can see it in TO's eyes, he wants it bad. He may say it doesn't matter, but after your prime all you have is your legacy. And TO not being in Hall is a disgrace. I can't even think of what TO did wrong, many people of past didn't have exposure as they did in 2000's until now. I know there's some skeletons in their closet.
Sclass Entertainment I'm not even a football fan....but when T.O played I definitely got my popcorn ready.He was must see TV....I wish ppl wouldn't put personal agendas in the mix when its what happens between the white lines that counts.T.O always gave you 100% on the field and prepared himself to get back when he was hurt....an ultimate competitor.Even those who are supposed to be professional (voters) are unprofessional in their approach.Hypocrites!
Didn't like TO after his falling out with the Eagles, but as the years go by, you realize that time heals all wounds. Really balled out in that Super Bowl, mad respect. Just goes to show you that you never know what you got til it's gone I guess.
T.O. Racked up stats and yet…can’t remember any of them. Moss, greatest singular wideout talent ever. Many great catches. Both of these gentlemen were prolific and deserve first ballot based on their football stats alone. Period.
T.O never quit. He played the Superbowl with a broken leg. Randy quit on some occasions. Although Randy wanted to win, if things were not going his way... he quit. He quit once with the Vikings and quit with the Raiders. He is a quitter. T.O never quit. Even when his team did not make the playoffs.
People love to say moss didn't give 100 percent because of the comment I "play when I want to..." but the fact that moss numbers the way they are with a person T.O who gave a 100 percent every time just shows how great MOSS IS TBH!!
Skip: Randy walked off the field before a game was over. Shannon: That was in Washington Correct! Skip: Then he bumped another red cause he got mad at him Shannon: That was in Greenbay Daily Double !
lol he's the only annoying one to listen to, constantly yelling, emotional reaction to almost everything, give me the guy with the cool head breaking down stat by stat than the guy yelling every point he has because he thinks he is always right.
@@ThePhenom411 haha haha ha that's a turn on to ya . Man u brainwashed go to walk st if u wanna hear ###. I wanna hear some one who has played in the sport ,someone who has some insight into the game in the locker room . How about after what NFL players go thru . Boy deep down inside you gotta check u self homie .
@@michaelcooke8989 I'm fine with a player from the NFL giving there opinion if it doesn't seem emotional and they aren't yelling at me. What blows me away here is how rational, and calm Owens is, giving a straight non emotional answer to every question then you got Sharpe over there crying like he's the one not getting into the hall. How do you have an actual conversation with a person like this? reminds me of my ex gf, check yourself homie.
@@ThePhenom411 Shannon makes good tv. T.O. would be a sleeper if he was on every day. Shannon has good insight, safe takes, and pairs well with Skip. Way better than First Take.
T.O., Gronk, & Tom Brady would have defenses throughout the league very sore the next day. T.O. was better than Moss as a route runner, RAC ability, blocking, and enforcing his will on the defense.
Wtf.... Moss is literally the greatest receiver to play the game. You saying he shouldn't be first round. That just ignorant. TO should've also been first round.
@@aerusjokaire5292 if you get snubbed three times, while the other guy gets in first year (they're both relatively close). Wouldn't you be questioning the legitimacy of voters? That's exactly the first thing I would be mentioning: "it's not for me to say". Because in all honesty, TO had no say in this.
@@aerusjokaire5292 no kidding I think he had just zoned out and wasn't even listening to what they were saying. "About what?" I'll tell you this though, in this current era, with the protection of quarterbacks and receivers by the current ruleset, if Moss played today it would literally break the game. He would render a defense useless, because he could just run deep routes and pull a corner and two safeties every time. So either he beats you deep or they can just run the ball forever because you can't ever bring more than 4 to the line, you'd need all the help in the secondary.
Rookie 1998: Greatest Offense of all time. Patriots 2007: New greatest offensive of all time. Those two teams went 15-1 ans 16-0 in the regular season and lost games in the playoffs on a shanked kick and a miracle helmet catch. Even if Randy didn't have a big game he had 2-3 DB's committed to cover him thus opening it up for everyone else. He titled the field like no one else. Jerry is the greatest but Randy is the best. TO is so jealous.
Look we can make all the comments we want about T.Os antics but if we’re talking about football playing abilities and his NFL career then this man is a 1st ballot hall of famer WITHOUT question 💯
Randy Moss had Managed to Put Up all the Numbers with WhoEver and And WhatEver he was Working with and bring all of the Most ValueAble Player Attention to himself without taking anything away from his TeamMates !
They were both arrogant. But Moss didn't disrespect others as much as TO. I think TO was more disruptive to his teammates than Moss. It took TO longer to learn that football is a team sport.
Randy Moss is easily a 1st ballot Hall of Famer and thee best WR ever!!! Rice had a better career, but Moss is easily the most talented best WR ever. Fastest, jump the highest, Top hands, 6'4, 4.2 40, just stop. Nobody better.
Part of having a better career is the whole "working" part of that equation. And the FACT of the matter is: Jerry Rice DEFINED hard work and accountability. He wrote the book on it. Moss is more athletic, you say? Okay. Colin Kaepernick was more athletic than Joe Montana, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, or Peyton Manning. ......but nobody in their right mind is going to believe that he was a better QB than any of those men. Athleticism is nothing without smarts, drive, determination, and work ethic. Jerry Rice had all of those things. Moss didn't. Jerry Rice is the GOAT Wide Receiver, and probably the greatest player to ever play the game.
MGTOW Pump & DumpHer ONLY! So was TO, so was Rice, So was Torry Holt, so was Isaac Bruce, Steve Smith, Michael Irvin. Pretty much any receiver worth his salt. Saying he could beat a DB 1on1, isn't saying much.
And he always had other good weapons around him just like rice did before him not taking anything away from either but the more talent around the easier it is to do what they did
@@Kirkschoen well look at his overall teams he played on they where all kinda loaded on both sides of the ball to be real Montana young Garcia he had great to solid qbs his whole career and that's not taking anything away from Rice but his system he played in surrounded by the stars beside him equal his stats #facts
There is no question Randy Moss is a first ballot HOF'er. Who cares what TO says...he's salty. But I don't blame him, but leave if I'm him I wouldn't even comment on Randy.
Moss shouldn't be a first ballot HOF IF T.O shouldn't be. Moss had trouble with the Law, T.O. didn't. I don't know why the media cares about him running his mouth more than him having off the field issues like Moss did.
Do you agree with Skip?
Moss will make the hof this year he was better than t.o and was less terrible than t.o
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED Of Course
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED So T.O. hatin with skip now???!!! WTF???
Nope moss should be first hof
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED absolutely not
Randy Moss is the reason I ever liked football. I didn't even know what sport he played. I was mossing people getting rebounds in basketball.
Jacques Bonny 🙏🏾
What’s mossing
@@xzxxbatmanxxx jumping over people to catch something. Think for yourself man.
Jacques Bonny lmao on god
Greatest comment🏆
Randy Moss was so good that his last name became a verb bruh... y'all wilding.
EDIT: This kinda blew up.... thanks y’all.
Lol Amen 🙏🏽 bruh
💯💯💯💯💯
Did you even watch the video lol he literally said nothing about his talent it’s about he didn’t give every down his all T.O. Gave it his all Randy himself said that he chose when to actually go hard
Oath
*Mossed*
Both of them should have been first ballot. The HoF has lost a lot of credibility with their BS.
This and it's a damn shame
Moss was first ballot
kray97 Joe Namath is in the Hall...credibility lost YEARS ago
D Lane Lmao
@@andrewmartin1954 TO should have been as well.
Terrell looking like a kid in Principal’s office with his parents pleading his case 😂
😂😂😂😂
Dead ☠️😂
Well he never learned to act like an adult, so that’s accurate.
They ask about Moss getting in hof...Owens says..well My stats...Ain't nobody ask about Terrell Owens!!
It's all it was too.
Mannnnnn Randy Moss had a tag line for catching the football over other players. We would say damn he got "Mossed" That alone should put him in the Hall of Fame.
Probtaylored facts best WR I saw in my 24years on this earth.
Tevin Collins Double facts
Daniel Hill have you ever used stickum? The gloves that randy has are the same if not better than stickum, and rice admitted to it and only used it in his rookie year. I hate people like you who pick and choose what evidence they use.
Probtaylored NOPE
Datsizer I'm white and I know about Mossing people, that was the whole point of playing 3 flies lol
T.O should've been first ballot and Randy Moss should be first ballot. 2 of the top 3 receivers of all time having to wait is ridiculous.😴
It's blasphemy, the hatred they must have for T.O, bordering on criminal
rivers is HOF number tf you mean not first ballot but his numbers don't lie
Just like it took them years to induct Art Monk. He was top 3 in stats before TO and Moss.
Freestylebattlefield agree 100 percent
Ifneither had the drive of a jerry rice. Theyd be 1st ballot
Randy moss is the kobe of the NFL
Catch over someone- moss
Throw up a shot- Kobe
Media- disrespect
Nehemiah Hicks Kobe definitely threw up shots😂but Kobe is a top 15 player though.
@@wesleyladda3498 i thnk u misunderstood i was sayn when ppl do the following actions they say moss when u catch over over someone or say kobe when u throw some trash away.
Wesley Ladda 5
Except Kobe actually won rings. Moss can't say that.
Xavier Vega still a top 3 all time in his position tho
You can make a case for TO without hating on Moss. I still watch Moss’ highlights to this day.
TO over Moss all day.
@@luisalejandro2335 And, I don’t argue anyone for having that opinion. But, Shannon said there guys in the HOF that have done things that he won’t name. But, then proceeds to reel off what Randy has supposedly done in his playing career. 🤷🏾♂️
Mr regular season Randy moss
@@Tra_West because t.o. Is his friend and he is just stating the facts. If t.o. Not first ballot moss isn’t either. I’m sure moss would agree.
There's also a strong case against TO. Character and on/off field behavior 100% plays a role and should. If tomorrow Aaron Rodgers goes out and shoots up a black church and leaves behind a manifesto that rivals Mein Kampf, would you still support Rodgers going HoF or oppose it? I think 99% of people would oppose it despite his numbers being clear HoF worthy. That means there is a spectrum to judge by, obviously TO's behavior was not shooting up black churches bad so you have to judge what you view as acceptable or not to be HoF.
I say no, the asterisk beside TO's name is just to detracting.
Randy Moss made Daunte Culpepper a household name. They ran one play lmao
Go routes😂
Wow! I had completely forgotten that Daunte Culpepper ever played football until I read your comment.
Culpepper had a cannon for an arm. He was the only QB to be able to overthrow Moss, something no one thought was possible back then.
😂😂
@@Roseclan24 that's not true.....moss rookie quarterback had a stronger arm....Johnson or whatever lmao
Randy Moss was one of the greatest wide receivers I have ever seen play the game.
He literally took over the NFL in 1998.
Yes Randy Moss is 1st ballot.
Also Terrell Owens was 1st ballot. He was so dominant in his prime.
Marcelo Rivadeneira these guys are getting robbed
Marcelo Rivadeneira they both should be 1st ballot HOF. TO retired first so he should be in 1st by default. But they both are 1a and 1b best Wr's of all time. Moss could go and get 2 or 3 tds 12 catches on any #1cb and any zone. TO could do the same
And One do you think steve smith can make the hall?
Factsss
Randy was a stud from day 1.
The term “Mossed” is a term that every true football fan knows. Randy Moss didn’t win a Super Bowl, but his stats and impact on the league makes him definitely deserving of the hall of fame. It’s not opinion, it’s fact.
That literally wasn’t the point of the video. Both T.O and Moss were extremely talented. But T.O had to wait to get in the Hall because of off the field antics. All the video was saying was, Randy also had off the field antics so he should have to wait as well.
@@Nemo-Nobody Please read my response before making false statements. Did I say T.O was better than Moss? No.
I guess I’m not a true fan even thought I’ve been watching The game for 40 years.
Being put into the HOF is a subjective vote. Therefore it is an opinion and Not a fact.
That being said, I believe MOSS should have been a first ballot HOF
Kinda Like Barry “Sanders” That last name rings bells 🔔
That smirk on T.O while skip is talking shows he knew without even hesitation he should be a hall of famer
Randy Moss completely changed the way safeties and DB’s work together to cover a single WR...
Jerry Rice started that actually.
wise up14 no. Randy basically made defenses like cover 2 popular. He made defenses that were looked at as exotic before him become every week calls
@@TheKiid810 Yes. Randy Moss was only dimensional. He was a deep threat WR. And a slight bit faster than Rice. Look at Rice in his prime.
wise up14 a slight bit faster? Im done with this conversation. Have a nice day sir
@@TheKiid810 Check out those highlights while your at it.
Randy Moss created his own class of receiver. Case closed
Even changed the way defense had to be played
Randy was not a good route runner to could do it all go cross the middle go deep and run any route a complete wr to was better than randy moss stats don’t lie...
@@keonjenkins5212 go watch his highlights you trippin
@@keonjenkins5212 u crazy
@@keonjenkins5212 I just got dyslexia reading your comment
Hof should only be determined by what happens on field.
Darron sharper and others like him should not get into hof
Big facts bruh
absolutely not
Sensei Beats no
except if your Oj simpson
MOSS is Definitely a first Ballot HOFer 💯💯
T.O too😅
Randy Moss haters are still hanging on a quote from 1999...goat
Marcus Jackson its a symbol of who he is
Actually 2001
He was a quitter. T.O. gave his teams all he had.
SuperVince93 No he wasn’t. That comment was also taken out of context. People quoting that comment don’t ever go back and look at the sequencing of questions that led to that comment.
@@daytradernupe Moss was a known quitter. Ask the Raiders. Ask the Vikings in the 2000 NFC championship as well.
TO did not once in this video say Moss shouldn’t be in the HoF. He said he thought they’d hold him out due to his own experience
Exactly
Technically, that's EXACTLY what he said. "First Ballot" means you get in on the first year. He's saying he shouldn't get in on his first year = first ballot
Savagesavagesavage McSavageton
@@mg19cal that's not saying he shouldn't get in, its saying by the bylaws he's surprised they didn't hold him out
He is pretty much saying it wouldn't be fair if they didn't hold him.
Moss - TO era was WR golden era, so much fun.
Marvin Harrison too... Torry Holt... Isaac Bruce... Rod Smith
Chad Johnson
@@dellis4320 yup all those guys
Steve Smith.
hhumca ABSOLUTELY
Maybe Teo should be in the Hall of Fame but skip is out his ever-loving mind to say that Randy Moss should not be a first ballot Hall of Famer his records speak for itself
skip being out of his ever-loving mind is a given
Randy Moss = Straight Cash Homie! T.O = Get Your Popcorn Ready, both with be in the hall of fame. PERIOD
wow...so edgy. What's next, you're going to tell me Adrian Peterson will make the HOF? That Peyton Manning will make it too? Bold statements right there.
Hodgepodge Delight What are you on? Peyton Manning will be a first ballot Hall of Famer. GOAT.
KingKacchi
NAW BRO ONLY 1 AN THATS MOSS
Shahryar Choudhry 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤣
KingKacchi 💯
Randy Moss is top 3 of all time receivers 💯 give that man his respect
Anthony James they didn’t give TO his so they probably won’t give Randy his
Gh0stxRider you're absolutely right. I believe T.O. should be in too 💯
Anthony James yea and T.O is number 2
Anthony James And so is TO so what's ur point? Rice TO then Moss in that order
Andre Naylor Exactly my point. They both deserve to be in the HOF
Many would argue that Moss was the best receiver of all time. No question that he should be first ballot.
Timothy Moriarty facts Moss was the best i ever seen.
I feel bad for the youngsters that didn't get to witness Randy when he broke into the league in 1998.
It was insane!
I wasn’t even born and I still know it was insane
It was insane. Moss literally got me back into football. i had drifted away, and then on Thanksgiving '98, i was at my grandmother's house and the game came on, I'm from Dallas, and I had never seen anything like that on the field...it was the most exciting thing I'd ever seen in football. I started watching again and never stopped since...
Man you read my mind..I'm here chuckling, thinking 98 was a crazy year..I didn't have a team(oilers) so I was on the Brett favre bandwagon so I saw randy moss all year long..he was phenomenal..he changed the game..
Don't forget 2007 .....
@@adrianburnette7597 how tf can he forget 2007 when he said 98
Saw Randy Moss aginst the Cowboys on a Thanksgiving Day at the old Texas Stadium. He was unstoppable. Cowboys looked like a high school team against him.
I’m jealous lol
I saw it too!! And I’m a Cowboys fan
They passed him in the draft dropped 3 tds rookie year vs them 😆
Rookie Randy Moss made Neon Deon look normal although I remember Deon was injured with a hamstring. Moss lit him up. Real deal.
I saw him against my Raiders once. Charles Woodson looked like a Boy being outclassed against a Man. It wasn't his fault...he couldn't compete. If not for his attitude Moss would easily have been considered the GOAT of receivers
Randy Moss Career Stats
4th All-time Receiving Yards
2nd All-time Receiving TD's
15th All-time Receptions
1st in all time - WTF moments
He also was the one who made the term "Mossed"
Apparently that isn't 1st ballot HOF worthy
@@DSPHistoricalSociety lol did yah even watch the video? There’s no way you watched and made this statement. They saying T.O wasn’t a first ballot hall of famer because of off the field issues with the media, all they saying is if that’s the case then it would make no sense for Randy to be a first ballot hall of famer with the things he did which were worse then what T.O did.
@@scottapanda duh pointless comment
I just clicked on this to say if Randy Moss is NOT a 1sr ballet HOF'r then not one single WR better ever be a 1st ballot HOF'r. Randy Moss not only was the best WR I've ever seen but he was dominant, unstoppable and untouchable n he jumped off of the screen at you.
I agree with this. Now, I think it is difficult for me to say who the best football player I've ever seen, but the most TALENTED by far was Moss!!!! Never seen anything like him before or since.
Based off the title you will think it’s none sense. You would have to hear the context to understand the logic. All that said both guys should’ve been 1st ballot
What an idiot
You must be too young to remember Jerry Rice from his 2nd year to his 10th. He dominated the league when you could still light up receivers going across the middle. Rice was better some called him “Jesus in Cleats” for a reason. Not taking anything away from Moss or TO but Rice was The Master of the position. And I don’t think TO would dispute that even though I am not sure they like each other. Just compare Rice’s numbers to any WR that didn’t play the bulk of their career after 2000. Maybe if you take away 75 games from Rice’s career totals Moss & Owens come close. But their shortened careers tell you how much their games were dependent on freakish athleticism (especially Moss). TO was more versatile than Moss (ran all the routes at a high level, a beast blocking, and run over you too with the ball in his hands). So that versatility and with slightly better stats he definitively was better. 🤷🏽♂️. Moss might have been one of your favorites but facts don’t line up to support your opinion that no 1st ballot was better. Larry Fitz who will be first ballot is better also. Let’s just throw out his past 3 seasons. So that has him calling it quits after 2017 (109 receptions & 1,100 yards that year btw 👀). He still finishes with more yards and receptions than Moss. 🤷🏽♂️.
So jerry rice isn't a hof then 😂
They make a good point about playing every down, and although I agree with them, it just makes Moss look even better as far as overall ability. Owens only had roughly 700 more career yards and played 2 more years than Randy and gave it his all every play. Moss should be a 1st ballot hall of famer, and the fact that T.O wasn't is a damn shame
Put a INTERESTED Randy Moss against your favorite DB and I promise Randy will make a fool out of em. Ask "Revis Island".
MoRico27 Moss vs. a prime Primetime I would pay to see
Moss beat Revis who held out and wasn't in football shape simple as that. Not to mention that Revis has shutdown Moss and T.O. before
Damon M moss killed prime in ‘98
MoRico27 that’s true but that’s the whole argument right there and “interested” randy the talent is up there with anybody it’s the drive though
Antoine Young True that. If Randy gave it his all night in and night out, he would more than likely be the greatest wideout to play the game, in my opinion.
Randy moss rookie year was enough to get him in the h.o.f.....y’all tripping hard!!!!!
They said nothing about his talent watch the video before you comment
Bias and politics. Makes the hof mean nothing to me.
facts bro he was in in my book 2 seasons in.
that's like saying Primetime
3 catches 100+ yards 3 tds
Tom Brady has the single season record for most TD passes.....guess who caught a majority them? Oh that's right, the guy who has the single season record for most TD receptions.....Randy Moss!! Why is this even a discussion?
David M Peyton broke his record in denver. 2013 season
Sherm3dg true. I was more or less speaking on that particular season and what moss accomplished that year.
David M Manning has the record, idiot.
Bo Rood and? Brady held the record for 6 years til manning surpassed him. Records are meant to be broken, doesn't change the fact that Brady set the record with moss catching 23 of them. Read my other comment before you run your mouth. I was speaking on the 2007 season
Because the HoF voting committee is turning selections into a popularity contest instead of by accomplishments. Its a joke and incredibly petty.
Terrell Owens was by far one of the greatest recievers to ever play the game. For the HOF to treat him the way they did was inexcusable. I'm sure T.O. looks back and regrets some of the decisions he made but to hold that against him with the credentials he has as a contributer to greatness of the NFL was ridiculous.
Rice, moss, owens
@@jessevasquez7917 MOSS, Rice, Owens
@@Danoie67👍
Moss vs TO is a stupid conversation. They're both Hall of Famers
Marc Cowans But the correct answer is Moss
best comment !!!
T.O should have said we both deserve to be in. SMH
nick clay yup
you're right he should have but what he said is accurate if they held the 2nd best wr out statistically then they have to hold everybody out
He really didn't want to speak on it and possibly keep him out even longer smh
#NoRubberGang RAW 😃
I agree 100%
They BOTH belong in the HOF. PERIOD.. anything else is *****EGREGIOUS!!!!*****
Henry King exactly
*Egregious
I agree, Moss before Owens though....
Big Boss ya know what I mean
Wabi-sabi8551 thanks for the auto correct
The joy on the face of T.O when skip was praising his numbers from Dallas is so great. He’s just a good dude.🤣
Stevie Wonder and Helen Keller can tell Moss is a 1st ballot Hall of Famer.
Ray Charles could too
Floyd Mayweather could read Moss's stat sheet and tell you he is a HOF... it's so obvious!
Roger Forest I wonder how many people who say that not were saying it before folks in the media like Bomani Jones did.
Stevie wonder is a fake... lmao just saying
Timothy Platt let Ray Charles RIP
Eric Dickerson just made the most important comment of the discussion: Dexter Manley should be in the Hall of Fame.
Yup.
Manley made Mann a household name. Manley required a double team freeing Mann to go one on one.
Dexter Manley should have been in HOF 4 years after retirement, he was the anchor of that Redskins defense
Art Monk also shouldn't have waited nearly as long as he did to get in the HoF
Yea that's some b.s. Manley is not in HOF
The fact they are even debating if Moss is a first ballot HOFer is BLASPHEMY. There is a reason why every Receiver, kid, man or woman coin the phrase MOSS when outjumping a defender making them look silly.
Why is there a saying you just got Moss'd? Because Randy was a beast.
Randy also quit on teams.
@@that408 Theres two sides to every story
@@that408 so did T.O?
@@jasperhenderson3002 TO never quit
Randy Moss is the most influential player of all time. Just remember his first 2 seasons. It's crazy that THIS is even a deate. RESPECT GREATNESS.
Moe K Mike Vike
Moe K did you actually comphrend the video?
: Moss was not just a fast tall leaper. Moss found the ball and adjusted almost magically to be in the right position to catch it. Some of those catches look much easier than they really are and most viewers wouldn't realize that most other WRs wouldn't be able to make that play. The hand-eye coordination has to expand to eye-field-defenders-ball-feet-hands coordination.
LOLOLOL most influential player??? Lawrence Taylor??? Don Hutson??? Johnny Unitas???? Moss fanboys are getting ridiculous now.
What football were you watching bud. Madden
Can't believe these dudes sitting here hating on Randy moss like that... I'd pick Randy over TO all day everyday
kenneth harrison facts moss top3 wr all time
Straight they hating on greatness cant believe T.O dissin like that
they are not hating on him they are using his career and antics to reason why TO isn't in the HOF....
To is better than moss i mean its all in the carrer if you look at his body of work 🤷🏾♂️fitzgerlad is past moss now to actually
Moss is lazy and a problem
Just goes to what I've been saying for years. Sportswriters and reporters SHOULD NOT VOTE FOR THE HALL OF FAME !!!!! There have been reporters that have HOF votes that admitted that they didn't vote for a player b/c he wouldn't give the guy an interview or that he wasn't cordial to the media. That's an outrage.
C Williams, I have been saying this for years. Hall of Famers and fans should should determine who gets in. And these guys should not have to wait until they're barely moving to get in.
T.O was a beast they also forget he would take on any blocking scheme
Definitely a first ballet. Randy didn’t come across the middle like Owens . But both deserve a first ballet!!
Ballet is a type of dancing where they wear tutu's. Moss did block and go over the middle more than is portrayed.
2:37 😂 Shannon going to give Mariah Carey some competition!
N G 😂😂😂😂😂
YES!!!
😂😂😂😭😭😭
This comment took the life outta me 💀⚰
Yesssss😂😂
Victor cruz is without a doubt the greatest WR salsa dancer ever. .
Randy Moss was a savage. He's a hall of famer. Hate him or love him. He was a star.
So was TO being a star.
No one hates Randy, he was such a household name.
Moss is the first receiver I pick for my All-time NFL team.
Being a Packer fan from Milwaukee, Randy Moss was an annual nightmare we had to face 2-3 times a year. Ron Wolf changes his whole philosophy on drafting cornerbacks. He knew he needed bigger corners to keep up with Moss- just like in 99’ when he drafted 3 CB in first three picks- Antuan Edwards, Vinson, and Mike McKenzie...And it didn’t even matter. Moss still dominated.
No one ever said you just got T.O'd but I definitely have mossed a few cats in my day.
Daggone right
exactly, legend.
What, ran by them before the ball was thrown?
Yea, on Madden
No one says you got Riced neither, T.O isn’t as athletic as Moss but T.O has better numbers huh........
Gotta be hating ' Randy Moss is the best or second best receiver of ALLLLL TIME depending on how you feel about Jerry Rice ' They #1&2 no questions '
We're all gonna ignore the fact Eric Dickerson's out here coloring his eyebrows?! 👀😂
Naw we gone get to that in a min lol
LMAO
Idk how I came across this video but I was specifically scrolling thru the comments for this exact mention 😂😂
Deion in Moss' early years. You three take moss. I'll cover Cris Carter or Jake Reed.
Chris Carter was spot on when he enthusiastically pitched Randy Moss to the Vikings as the most talented athlete he'd ever seen. Randy was a Usain Bolt type wearing cleats - 6'5, 4.2 speed, could turn on a dime, jump right of the gym and exceptional hand eye coordination with those big soft hands. Just imagine if Moss hand Jerry Rice's work ethics.
That’s the problem though, Moss never needed that work ethic. Rice did, the guys that have all the talent almost never put in the effort that these other guys have to
@@bza8910 that's why they don't have rings💀💀
Tha man had a 40 inch vertical also
Moss is Usain bolt in pads us so true
Just imagine if Randy had hall famers throwing to him in his younger days.
As a former athlete I can see it in TO's eyes, he wants it bad. He may say it doesn't matter, but after your prime all you have is your legacy. And TO not being in Hall is a disgrace. I can't even think of what TO did wrong, many people of past didn't have exposure as they did in 2000's until now. I know there's some skeletons in their closet.
Sclass Entertainment I agree with you bruh you can see it in his eyes he wants it his recognition
Sclass Entertainment
He wants it and he deserves it. All the stats says so and that’s the only thing that should matter.
It's more than just legacy. The price for your autograph goes way up when you are inducted.
Sclass Entertainment you don't to be an former athlete to see that TO wants in
Sclass Entertainment I'm not even a football fan....but when T.O played I definitely got my popcorn ready.He was must see TV....I wish ppl wouldn't put personal agendas in the mix when its what happens between the white lines that counts.T.O always gave you 100% on the field and prepared himself to get back when he was hurt....an ultimate competitor.Even those who are supposed to be professional (voters) are unprofessional in their approach.Hypocrites!
Didn't like TO after his falling out with the Eagles, but as the years go by, you realize that time heals all wounds. Really balled out in that Super Bowl, mad respect. Just goes to show you that you never know what you got til it's gone I guess.
The disrespect for Randy Moss is insane.
MONEYM23 FACTS
MENTION THIS! THE TWO HIGHEST SCORING TEAMS IN NFL HISTORY "RANDY MOSS" PLAYED FOR THEM 98' VIKINGS AND 07' PATRIOTS ....HANDS DOWN MOSS THE "GOAT"
SuperSaved123 nope rice
Idk about the GOAT lol Rice numbers speak for themselves
The 2013 denver broncos scored the moat points not the pats/vikings
Michael Rodriguez yes the Broncos broke that record, but I'm sure he's referring at the time each team set the record before the Broncos did in 2013.
They are both hall of famers. Lol Shannon kills me how he keeps it so real I love it...
T.O. Racked up stats and yet…can’t remember any of them.
Moss, greatest singular wideout talent ever. Many great catches.
Both of these gentlemen were prolific and deserve first ballot based on their football stats alone. Period.
I remember plenty of TO's catches. Especially the one where he juked Champ Bailey and took it 90 yards to the house.
TO is better Then Randy Ok
I’m against all the negativity both of them are great receivers.
All the 90s babies love Randy Moss. Best wide receiver
D Wood How you forget about the 80's babies
Brandon Brown gotta think about it when we grew old enough to understand football thats who we first seen. Moss
Rice is the best wide receiver ever. T.O. was better than Moss. No one else is in the conversation with these 3 players.
Jonathan Hawk
Larry Fitzgerald is sitting at that table now.
T.O never quit. He played the Superbowl with a broken leg. Randy quit on some occasions. Although Randy wanted to win, if things were not going his way... he quit. He quit once with the Vikings and quit with the Raiders. He is a quitter. T.O never quit. Even when his team did not make the playoffs.
I was born in 96. Randy moss WAS THE ELITE RECIEVER EVEEYONE WANTED TO BE. Let him in
Nobody cares when you were born
2:41 Shannon’s high pitch YESSSSSSS 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Randy Moss is the best WR of all time. When you catch the ball over someone do you “Moss” them or “T.O” them? 🤔🤔🤭 THIS MAN CHANGED THE NFL
Big facts
True but when you celebrate what do you do?
Jorge Ramos Vick did too but FACTS.
Tony Cain You celebrare...?
NFL..He changed football completely!!!!! I loved t.o but i can't believe that he would down Randy.....
Both of them are HOF wide receivers
Dan S but they're not
Neothetruth they are tho.
Neothetruth they will
Both just got inducted sooo
Randy Moss changed the NFL like Allen Iverson had changed the NBA
Nah T.O was a god in Philly just like AI was
D'Ante' Murphy
Yeah, they both lazy and played only when they wanted to.
TO was toxic but he was there every play.
Naw Vick was the Iverson of Football
Randy Changed the NFL like how Curry changed the NBA. I swear everytime I go play rec ball everyone wants to shoot close to half court shots
D'Ante' Murphy wrong
This the first time I see T.O’s eyes light up when skip speaks. He was loving it
These guys are crazy. Randy moss is first ballot hall of famer hands down.
No, he said based on the criteria that kept him out, Randy should be out on his first try too
Moss is better than T.O but both should be in the HOF
dera michaels no he's not t.o is better
dera michaels stats speak
Agreed dera
dera michaels TO is better look at the stats
gabe briggs yeah, 23 touchdowns in 1 season
I hated T.O. but he is hands down a hall of famer
Lol what was your team? I'm a 49ers fan. And you are showing true respect. I hated when he went to Philly
And yet he had alligators arms many times going across the middle.
People love to say moss didn't give 100 percent because of the comment I "play when I want to..." but the fact that moss numbers the way they are with a person T.O who gave a 100 percent every time just shows how great MOSS IS TBH!!
😂man ppl weird
RandyMoss is a LEGEND
Skip: Randy walked off the field before a game was over.
Shannon: That was in Washington
Correct!
Skip: Then he bumped another red cause he got mad at him
Shannon: That was in Greenbay
Daily Double !
“Straight cash homie!”
🤣🤣🤣 never forget that. Epic
👀👀 " you got moss'd " lmao stahhhhppp who else was like him with that mix of ridiculous speed nd crazy hops 😈😈
Jamal Adams said it best whenever he was on this show. “Without Shannon Sharpe this show would be a bunch of nonsense.”
lol he's the only annoying one to listen to, constantly yelling, emotional reaction to almost everything, give me the guy with the cool head breaking down stat by stat than the guy yelling every point he has because he thinks he is always right.
@@ThePhenom411 haha haha ha that's a turn on to ya . Man u brainwashed go to walk st if u wanna hear ###. I wanna hear some one who has played in the sport ,someone who has some insight into the game in the locker room . How about after what NFL players go thru . Boy deep down inside you gotta check u self homie .
@@michaelcooke8989 I'm fine with a player from the NFL giving there opinion if it doesn't seem emotional and they aren't yelling at me. What blows me away here is how rational, and calm Owens is, giving a straight non emotional answer to every question then you got Sharpe over there crying like he's the one not getting into the hall. How do you have an actual conversation with a person like this? reminds me of my ex gf, check yourself homie.
@@ThePhenom411 Shannon makes good tv. T.O. would be a sleeper if he was on every day. Shannon has good insight, safe takes, and pairs well with Skip. Way better than First Take.
Shannon cool till it come to lebron him and skip too damn annoying when it come to lebron
Imagine if moss had tom Brady his whole career
Tobias Reid
Imagine any top receivers today having Tom brady as qb
T.O., Gronk, & Tom Brady would have defenses throughout the league very sore the next day. T.O. was better than Moss as a route runner, RAC ability, blocking, and enforcing his will on the defense.
Tobias Reid he would have like 214 tds which would surpass jerry rice's 197 td record
Moss > T.O. You don't T.O. someone you MOSS SOMEONE!!
BigDaddy facts only on the play ground everybody would do the hand motion and say MOSSED!!!! At the top of their lungs.
BigDaddy does that apply when you shoot a basket and say Kobe instead of LeBron and Jordan?
Chris Cross yeah... in a clutch shot situation
BigDaddy And that means what.....NOTHING
BigDaddy FACTS!!!
Wtf.... Moss is literally the greatest receiver to play the game. You saying he shouldn't be first round. That just ignorant. TO should've also been first round.
Moss showed TO love, there’s a reason TO gets the hate he gets.
Mcnabbthe36
When?
of course a mcscrubb lover would say that.
He didn't hate he's saying if he has better numbers then why would they make randy first ballot and not him.
@@aerusjokaire5292 if you get snubbed three times, while the other guy gets in first year (they're both relatively close). Wouldn't you be questioning the legitimacy of voters? That's exactly the first thing I would be mentioning: "it's not for me to say". Because in all honesty, TO had no say in this.
@@aerusjokaire5292 no kidding I think he had just zoned out and wasn't even listening to what they were saying. "About what?" I'll tell you this though, in this current era, with the protection of quarterbacks and receivers by the current ruleset, if Moss played today it would literally break the game. He would render a defense useless, because he could just run deep routes and pull a corner and two safeties every time. So either he beats you deep or they can just run the ball forever because you can't ever bring more than 4 to the line, you'd need all the help in the secondary.
the disrespect is real smh
Harry fast how? Lmao
Wait, disrespect for who?
Rookie 1998: Greatest Offense of all time. Patriots 2007: New greatest offensive of all time. Those two teams went 15-1 ans 16-0 in the regular season and lost games in the playoffs on a shanked kick and a miracle helmet catch. Even if Randy didn't have a big game he had 2-3 DB's committed to cover him thus opening it up for everyone else. He titled the field like no one else. Jerry is the greatest but Randy is the best. TO is so jealous.
So basically he had a better supporting cast and yet TO has similar numbers.
Michael Stahl 100% Factsss
Thick W
Cedie Dashiell randy moss is clearly miles ahead of TO
2024- Can’t believe this was even a debate.
Back in the gap, your homies considered you a cheater on Madden when you chose to play as the Vikings during Moss and Carter era. Imjs
pats madden 08 was even worse
They were stacked at wr don't leave reed out he played a big part in randy in the slot undercovered
Lol u ain’t lying I had friends say ok fine u can be them but I’m using these Madden Cards
The TO Brian Dawkins Brian Westbrook McNabb team was better lol
@@stephenasunnamedsource2943 I never was a fan of Owens even in his 49ers years but I can see were you coming from on McNabb, Westbrook and Dawkins!!!
Randy moss’ quote was taken out of context, he missed 6 games in his entire career. 218 out of 224 games he was on the field.
Randy moss not being a First ballot HOF. Haha. Laughable
Justin Bruner TO not being a first ballot HOFer? Ha LAUGHABLE
@@ernestolopez5501 I agree with y'all both.
Well both randy and terrell are laughing they both are in the HOF
Look we can make all the comments we want about T.Os antics but if we’re talking about football playing abilities and his NFL career then this man is a 1st ballot hall of famer WITHOUT question 💯
Randy Moss had Managed to Put Up all the Numbers with WhoEver and And WhatEver he was Working with and bring all of the Most ValueAble Player Attention to himself without taking anything away from his TeamMates !
They were both arrogant. But Moss didn't disrespect others as much as TO. I think TO was more disruptive to his teammates than Moss. It took TO longer to learn that football is a team sport.
6:52 lol why T.O so happy when skip said “you rocked that world man” he look like a son talking to a proud parent 💀
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Was looking for the comment.
Randy Moss played in 2 superbowls..
Stuntman Beatz and slimly missed another by a field goal...
Jalen Davis that was after he left
No he didn't.
Derek Borba 49ers (2012) And Patriots (2008) do yo fact checks
Stuntman Beatz haha, I forgot about that garbage season of football lol.
2:38 YESSSS
Say, I went back and had to watch it 10 times! hahahahahahaha Shannon couldn't contain the horse any longer! LOL
Randy Moss is a first ballet Hall of Famer...he was the best wide receiver of his time
Camp Kemp hands down the best.
Owens>>>>>>
Lol. Surely you jest. Moss was a one trick pony, that quit on two teams. T.O. was a beast everywhere he went.
Facts
Camp Kemp arguably the best to ever do it....
Randy Moss is easily a 1st ballot Hall of Famer and thee best WR ever!!! Rice had a better career, but Moss is easily the most talented best WR ever. Fastest, jump the highest, Top hands, 6'4, 4.2 40, just stop. Nobody better.
Part of having a better career is the whole "working" part of that equation. And the FACT of the matter is: Jerry Rice DEFINED hard work and accountability. He wrote the book on it.
Moss is more athletic, you say?
Okay.
Colin Kaepernick was more athletic than Joe Montana, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, or Peyton Manning.
......but nobody in their right mind is going to believe that he was a better QB than any of those men.
Athleticism is nothing without smarts, drive, determination, and work ethic. Jerry Rice had all of those things. Moss didn't.
Jerry Rice is the GOAT Wide Receiver, and probably the greatest player to ever play the game.
MGTOW Pump & DumpHer ONLY! So was TO, so was Rice, So was Torry Holt, so was Isaac Bruce, Steve Smith, Michael Irvin. Pretty much any receiver worth his salt. Saying he could beat a DB 1on1, isn't saying much.
Joseph Crittell dont downplay moss to hype up TO dude
kiddglory5 well no. T.O. was that guy
Malik Cook so was Moss
“You just got TO’ed” 😂😂
When was TO not the best player on his team? ... there’s this guy called Jerry rice that played for San Fran, heard he was pretty good
Violent Redemption Ark Survival Evolved 😂😂😂😂
Jerry was old already
And he always had other good weapons around him just like rice did before him not taking anything away from either but the more talent around the easier it is to do what they did
Concierge Concierge yeah in no reality is TO ever comparable to Jerry rice.
@@Kirkschoen well look at his overall teams he played on they where all kinda loaded on both sides of the ball to be real Montana young Garcia he had great to solid qbs his whole career and that's not taking anything away from Rice but his system he played in surrounded by the stars beside him equal his stats #facts
There is no question Randy Moss is a first ballot HOF'er. Who cares what TO says...he's salty. But I don't blame him, but leave if I'm him I wouldn't even comment on Randy.
Desmond Garrett thank you!
Moss shouldn't be a first ballot HOF IF T.O shouldn't be. Moss had trouble with the Law, T.O. didn't. I don't know why the media cares about him running his mouth more than him having off the field issues like Moss did.
Desmond Garrett I agree TO deserves the HOF but he shouldn't mention Randy.
Be honest, who'd you rather have. Randy Moss or T.O? Straight Cash for my money.
As much as folks don't like TO , I rock with him, gave me a great tip when we moved him when he played for Dallas. Plus numbers don't lie.
Moss was so good you werent allowed to use the vikings playing madden with your friends
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