@@LouisShannon yeah, it requires an internet connection though, I suspect it probably uploads some data to google in order to ensure that "dangerous" stuff doesn't get generated
@@Specified5706 It processes everything on-device but maybe it requires access to some resources that are on Google's servers, like some dataset or models. Not sure tho, we're talking about Google after all.
The reason why Pixel screenshot can't be created from Gemini app is because they are using two completely separate models one running on device and the other one is running in cloud. Google is keeping all of your screenshots on device for privacy reasons so that's why the Gemini model that's running in cloud can't look into your pixel screenshots app
@@dru4670make your axx sense. We are expecting future ai not this shitty ai. Just fking make it smart or good enough to differentiate what need to be sent to cloud what stay on the device lmao By your logic, pixel would have more than 10 separated apps in 2027 each for screenshots, download images, download videos, website bookmarks, photos, videos, edited videos and so on lmao Just fking integrated the screenshot app into the Gemini or if it's not possible then don't show the screenshot app to user lmao.
This is the best review I've seen of these devices, I can tell from the user experience problems you ran into that you genuinely used the device for an extended period of time. Well done.
I've noticed every single RUclipsr that has a Pixel 9 Pro neglect turning on HDR when they use video boost. If you do not turn on HDR, the video you receive from video boost will be an SDR. Please turn on HDR if you plan on doing any type of video comparison. Otherwise the highlights will be blown out and shadows will be overexposed...
This is why I wish Google would not give so much control sometimes. If the results are obviously better when the videos are in HDR, it should be the default + I imagine they get converted to SDR when shared anywhere on socials anyway. People aren't necessarily keen on discovering options.
Hi Dave, I asked Gemini on my Pixel 7 to summarise this video and this is what showed up. So apparently this is not a Pixel 9 series-exclusive feature. In this video, Dave2D reviews the new Google Pixel 9 Pro XL. Overall, he is impressed with the phone, but he has some criticisms. The hardware has minimal updates from the previous generation, and the AI software is not particularly impressive. However, the battery life is very good, and the camera is excellent. Here are some of the key points from the review: * Hardware: The phone has a new flat design, a brighter screen, and ultrasonic fingerprint sensors. The haptics and speakers are the same as the previous generation. The new chip is barely faster than the previous generation, and it throttles down quickly when playing heavy games. * Software: The phone has three new AI features: the ability to summarize a RUclips video using Gemini, the Pixel Studio app, and the ability to search through screenshots. The Pixel Studio app is a lot of fun, but it is not very useful. The ability to search through screenshots is a useful feature. * Camera: The camera is the best part of the phone. The telephoto lens is much better than the previous generation, and the video stabilization is good. The front-facing camera is now 42 megapixels, but the image quality is not much different from the previous generation. * Price: The phone is $100 more expensive than the previous generation. However, it is likely to go on sale for much less than the MSRP. Dave2D recommends the phone to people who are looking for a good camera phone with excellent battery life. However, he does not think that the AI features are worth the price.
Yeah, I used Gemini on my Pixel 7 Pro to make similar pictures. So, is there an advantage of running this part of Gemini on a Pixel 9? My Gemini summary of this RUclips video: In this video, Google Pixel 9 Pro XL is being reviewed. Overall, the reviewer is impressed with the phone, especially the camera and battery life. However, the reviewer also notes that the phone has some drawbacks, such as the price and the lack of exclusive Gemini features. Here is a summary of the key points in the video: * Hardware: The phone has a new flat design, brighter screens, and ultrasonic fingerprint sensors. The new chip is barely faster than the previous generation, but the battery life is very impressive. * Software: The big thing with phone software is AI. The reviewer attributes the software or the AI experience into kind of two pillars: system software and camera software. * System software: The reviewer expected more exclusive features that lean on Gemini on this phone, but there are only three: * The ability to summarize a RUclips video using Gemini. * The pixel studio, an AI image generation app. * The ability to search through screenshots for a specific or particular thing. * Camera software: The reviewer highlights the following AI-powered camera features: * Super res Zoom: an incredibly powerful 20x Zoom. * 8K video. * Magic editor: allows you to kind of remove objects and replace it with your own creation. * Zoom enhancement: allows you to take a regular photo Zoom in and then use AI to generate detail. * Camera: The telephoto on the Pixel 9 Pro is way better this year than the previous generation. Video stabilization though still isn't great. The front-facing camera is now a way higher resolution sensor. * Pricing: The devices are $100 more than the previous generation. Overall, the reviewer is impressed with the Pixel 9 Pro XL, but notes that the price is a bit high. The reviewer also believes that the AI features, such as the ability to summarize RUclips videos and generate images, are not worth the extra cost. However, the reviewer does believe that the camera features are worth the price. I hope this summary is helpful!
Lol, that's a joke. Do they not want people to buy the pixel 9 pro? What's the point of buying the pro? Just the matte back is good but that's also partial as some idiot thought of having glossy sides along with it.
I find it baffling they would implement this not as a feature in RUclips, but as an entirely separate app exclusive to certain Android phones that probably asks a server-hosted LLM for a summary in the same datacenters RUclips is being hosted in
Google Pixels are the best phones to de-Google. I presume that they do this on purpose, so that if you want to get away from Google, you still have to pay them money.
Screenshot app is another way for Google to know what to sell to you. They should have done it on the Photos app, but it would have been too shady since millions of people use it. However, having separate apps with separate terms of conditions helps them.
@@quban79 exactly, such bait. Gemini pro worth $240 I think included for the first year. That'll get many hooked, then next year they start raking it in. I mean smart play but not for me.
@@pieterrossouw8596 it’s not a bait, since you are getting what they said you would get. They are giving it to you free for a year, and at that point in time you need to cancel it if you no longer want it. People need to be responsible and set a reminder as I always do to remind me 1 to 2 days before it renews to cancel it. It’s quite simple.
10:12 I think Google wanted to play it safe after seeing the outrage against Windows Recall. This way it seems like your screenshots are more "secure". Maybe in the future Gemini will auto redirect u to the screenshots app.
The more i watch these reviews of flagship phones leaning heavily on AI, the more I appreciate my Galaxy A52 5G. Simple phone that does the basics perfectly fine for almost 4 years now, no useless AI features that slow down the device, or are not generally available in my country and language, and not a wallet drainer. I do think i have to upgrade now, but it will be something in the budget segment, such as the A55, for sure. It's just not worth it to spend so much on a phone these days...
@@mrkring1526 What he's saying is that it has increasingly become a commodity device. No need for this personal values nonsense. It only needs to serve a simple set of functions well enough for a wide range of people. Beyond novelty the general user does not care about special use cases and features.
@@jackwilson5542nah he actually looks youthful. The only things are the incoming folds around his mouth but he does seriously look good for his age. I've always been impressed
I work at t mobile and got selected to be a pixel advocate last year and I fell in love with the Pixel 8 Pro I just got my 9 Pro XL today from Google and so far so good!!! It's such a good phone and the battery life is improved! That was my major gripe last year I'm buying the 9 Pro Fold and switching from iPhone this year!
I'm shocked by his viewpoint that this is a novelty. I love Dave's reviews but if you'd told us we could do this in 2020, we would have lost our minds. AI images are now everywhere. People use them for a ton of stuff. They even pay subscription fees to get them. It is disappointing that it doesn't do people but I am really surprised he thinks it's just a novelty.
@@MattFalberbecause it is? Just because it’s use everywhere doesn’t mean its just a party trick. Why pay a subscription for an art when you can use that money to commission artist who can get you actually real images? Procreate CEO recently announced how he hate Generative AI and I agree. Its just soulless art
I think for the common folks, it really will just be a novelty that isn't used much or forgotten about. There'll of course be those that know how to get the most out of it and use it often, but that's just how shiny new things end up. This is just speaking out my behind, but if I had to guess, they aren't doing people for the simple reason of it being exploited for NSFW content, whether it be generating new ones or generating/modifying on top of people that the user knows.
@@MattFalber It does feel like a novelty because they built it like one. In the AI image scene there's powerful UIs, LoRAs, custom models. Google built theirs with the most basic textbox, a few style modifiers, and safety that prevents you from generating anything but the most boring things
Thank you. This is the only video that actually introduced how Gemini works by actually showing you how to use it, e.g. pressing the button on the side of the phone.
Pixel 9 Pro XL to arrive tomorrow. I've been a buyer each year since Nexus 1. Your review makes me think that at the same time some of the features are getting added to older phones, new features may come to the Pixel 9 Pro. Were you using Android 14 or a beta version of Android 15? Thanks. Excellent review.
The introduction of ChatGPT-esque AI has killed any excitement I have for hardware releases from companies since they seem to be prioritizing copying AI features from competitors or introducing gimmicky AI features instead of just delivering a proper mobile experience, addressing long-lasting gripes that consumers have had, and adding features that consumers have been asking for. This year was such a dead year for smartphone launches.
@@a-don13just look at Chinese phones. E.g. 1" main camera sensor capturing more light, longer better zoom, new battery tech that packs more energy density allowing much better battery life,...
@@a-don13 Considering that Google decided to price these to directly compete with Apple's and Samsung's offerings they definitely need the following: - Qi 2 wireless support - 45+ W charging - SD card support - higher base storage - Faster storage(especially the 9 pro XL which has way slower read/write speeds compared to the S24 Ultra). So basically at least the pro XL model need ufs 4.0. - personally, I hate glossy glass so all the models should just have matte metal rails and matte glass on the back. - Pro XL model has no reason to exist other than bigger display and battery. Doesn't have any extra features to justify $100 bump. I also have some software complaints: - Add option to force Material You on app icons that haven't updated to support it. - Fix Quick settings menu to work like they used to(like actual toggles instead of buttons to open another window where you have to toggle shit) Literally every other company including Apple does it better. IDK why Google made it worse. - Unify all Gemini features into one Gemini experience and enhance it with Google Assistant since base Gemini is trash unless you have Advanced version. - Better battery optimization. From what I'm hearing the 9 pro XL can't even compare to other phones in its class. - Tone down the post-processing on images - Despite their claims, video needs significant improvements to justify the price bumps. There's probably more but I can't think of anymore.
Every single "reviewer" is an independent advertiser. Nothing more. I'm happy that Dave just gives his opinion on what he likes, what he dislikes, and calls out gimmicks and marketing crap, so the buyers can decide.
These AI use cases are nothing that people were looking for .. no real life benefits use cases.. just it exists so brands trying to give you problems that these AI models can solve .. basically a solution to a problem that doesn't exist in the first place 😂
@@LarsRyeJeppesen fun fact as a software developer myself ... I beg to disagree strongly on this.. I feel AI as a whole is a good thing... I'm just saying skewing everything towards LLMs is what I'm against at this point..
Can anyone relate to this? As a Pixel 7 Pro owner, there are a few things that really frustrate me about the device-specifically, the lack of customization options for small but important features. I don't use the search bar at the bottom of the home screen at all, but I can't simply switch it off. The only way to remove it is by using Nova Launcher, which feels unnecessary. The notification bar tiles are unnecessarily large. I frequently need to switch off my data connection during work, but this requires an extra, unnecessary step because the data toggle is hidden under the "Internet" subcategory. Why isn't there an option to switch to a regular notification bar layout, like the one Samsung and other brands offer, without subcategories? In Google Photos, I'm constantly seeing the message, "Unlock the power of Google Photos by turning on Backup." What if I don't want to back up anything? The message keeps appearing on my screen, and there's no way to turn it off permanently. I switched to the Pixel from the OnePlus series because I expected a clean Android experience with Google phones. However, I've found that some of the forced features and persistent messages that you can't disable are even more frustrating than what you'd encounter with other brands.
Definitely feel OP pain. I have a p7pro and have accepted nova launcher as necessary to deal with these issues. Interesting enough is the realization that there isn't really a phone running stock android. Pixel phones have pixel android version while Samsung has one UI android version. Once you get to that realization it changes your mindset and expectations. For example I am now more actively open to considering one UI. The only thing preventing me is the double apps issue.
Gemini Live is basically Gemini with a speaking UI layer on top. That's why you ended up with a "transcript". It is not a transcript, it is the same Gemini chat and you can actually continue the conversation without using Live. It feels like you just guessed a lot of these things without actually reading anything from the press launch.
I am always surprised when professional tech reviewers can’t get basic details right. Gemini Live isn’t a “chatbot”, it’s the voice chat interface with the existing “Chatbot” which is Gemini (various models).
Just dropped and shattered the display of my pixel 7 pro last week. Couldn't have happened at a better time. My pixel 9 pro xl is being delivered tomorrow ❤
@@yoaiou yeah the idea that everything is going to be instant and perfect is so unrealistic. There isn't a single piece of technology that checks both of those boxes. I have the pixel 6 too and the only time I have issues is when I mess up putting my finger on the screen to unlock.
@@KidBowsur they're just nitpicking at this point. Their lives as pretty much given to them for simply complaining. They would melt away if they ever held a mid tier budget phone, meanwhile that's all that most people will ever need. Also I kept my Pixel 6 because I could root it, so I don't need to give up on it if it doesn't have any more official updates
MKBHD is right, there is a very noticeable difference. I was constantly irritated with how unreliable the sensor was on series 6 and 8 I used, and now the 9 is such a relief.
Finally someone spoke about the panning in video mode! THANK YOU Absolute deal breaker as a content creator. Going to leave Pixel 7 Pro for the next iPhone
Remember when we all asked for A.I? Nope me neither. They (Google and Apple) are struggling to find anything to improve phones, they are so good that at this point I see little reason to upgrade other than software support
I am though. 👋 It isn’t there yet but imagine when it can be as good as having a personal secretary on your phone. Now it is LLM, looking forward to LAM for AI assistants to be more capable of doing actions to third party apps.
what could've been improved instead of a new size and higher prices: - 100W charging - good quality, big ultrawide lens - variable zoom like Sonys 3.5-7.1x instead of the simple 5x - expandable storage, headphone-jack, etc in my opinion: - plastic back instead of glass (cheaper+doesn't brake) - bigger battery instead of wireless charging (inefficient, consumes more power and wears the battery more compared to cable charging)
Half of that no phone company will do for their flagships, but the 100W+ fast charging and bigger battery (new silicon batteries already exceed 6000mAh in phones and are also more durable) are actually pretty much the only reason im still debating wether i will wait for OnePlus next release (5 more months …) or get a 9 Pro XL…
In this video, Dave2D reviews the new Google Pixel 9 Pro XL. He starts by talking about the hardware, which is very similar to the previous generation. The new shape is flatter and the screens are brighter. The fingerprint sensors are ultrasonic and the haptics and speakers are the same. The chip is barely faster than the previous generation and it throttles down quickly when playing heavy games. However, the battery life is very impressive. Then, Dave2D talks about the software, which is the most interesting part of the review. He talks about the new Gemini AI features, which include the ability to summarize a RUclips video, the Pixel Studio app, and the Screenshots app. He also talks about the new camera features, which include the super res Zoom, 8K video, and the magic editor. Finally, Dave2D talks about the pricing of the new Pixel 9 Pro XL, which is $100 more than the previous generation. He says that the AI features are not worth the price and that you can wait a few months for the price to drop. However, he does say that the camera features are very impressive and that they are worth the price.
I bought my pixel 7 at release for 574 euro 2 years ago (649 full price with 75 cashback). It's really crazy to me to see the current prices at release
I really want to see a “best laptops of all time” video; going over not just the best right now, but the laptops that were the furthest ahead of their time and were the best when they were released.
I don’t know if this has already been mentioned but the reason why Pixel Studio is so fast is because the images are created locally on device, that’s also why they make you download a model when you get a regular consumer Pixel 9 (not a marketing unit).
The notable upgrades from the Apps and camera features seemingly breathe new life into the phone. Although, the varying accessibility of the AIs doesn't appear to be the most user-friendly and could potentially deter users.
As a pixel user, I am gonna switch to either the upcoming ultra by Samsung or pro max by iPhone because of the sub par performance and battery life and heating issues. The camera was good tho
18:11 Dave, these photos clearly went through AI upscaling, just look at the text. Can you clarify if this is what you get straight out of the camera? Or did you have to edit or manipulate them somehow? Because if it's the former, and all photos go through AI upscaling by default... that really sucks, no?
@@andyH_England over-processing isn't as bad as using generative AI though, so I hope it's the former. What I don't like about it is that it adds detail to places where there isn't any, and removes detail if it just can't figure out what it is (just look closer at the lamp at 18:16). Yeah the image looks sharp, but it's literally not real, it's AI's "idea" of what's on the photo.
You aren’t, unless you’ve signed up for Gemini Advanced which gives you access to their most powerful models, file uploads (to be analysed by the AI models, long context and a lot of Google storage.
Interestingly, you can achieve the same Gemini functionality on iPhone, via the Google app. Paste a RUclips link, ask Gemini to summarise the video, and the results are the same. Admittedly, it doesn’t have the same in-app integration, but the elapsed time (copy>paste>type user request) isn’t dissimilar. 4:01
As a programmer I'd disagree. 80%+ of my code at work are done using Claude 3.5 or Gemini 1.5 or Gpt4-128k Large language models are a muscle memory for me now.
I love my pixel 8 due to the good camera, pocket/purse friendly, all day battery life, screen call, and stock os. But I like that a 6.5 screen is great for media, RUclips, movie, and little gaming.
@PSYCHOV3N0M no thnx i genuinely like the way dave presents, used to be a huge unbox therapy fan but than found.out they were just shilling for advertisers and we're scamming people annnnd buying bots for their vids so now only Linus and Dave for me
Interesting review, only for showing what's that had already been presented during the Google presentation. Really informative... at least there's a personal conclusion.
@@silis_pap8473 That's my main complaint. But then there's the 7 year software support. I own a Pixel 8 Pro, not really happy with it but it works. Love my RedMagic8S which is vastly superior (except the camera, its passable) in every way (at half the price) except it's implementation of Android 14 is janky. Not good when I depend on the phone to notify me when a message or call arrives.
16:17 Whuuuttt? That's really really impressive. 18:22 Pretty sure that's software trick, if you look at the sentence in the middle, writing is more clearly readable in the Pixel 8 Pro photo results.
Great review/comparison as always! Can you please compare the newest OnePlus Open (Apex/crimson), the Pixel 9 pro Fold, and the Galaxy Z Fold 6 as well, pleeeeease?! Would love to see an in depth comparison of all 3 in terms of Hinge Quality, performance, battery life, camera, and multi-tasking. Am a power-user and I’ve been wanting to buy a foldable for some time now because of the multi-tasking features but I’m super skeptical of the previously mentioned categories because it just feels wiser to use something like the s24 Ultra without having to compromise on build quality (hinges), camera reliability, software bs, battery life or performance… Would be great to multitask more but that means nothing if am paying more $ for a compromise in any one of those areas.
Just a slight correction, pixel studio runs on device, so it doesnt matter how many people are using it
I'm assuming this is why it's so fast as well
@@LouisShannon yeah, it requires an internet connection though, I suspect it probably uploads some data to google in order to ensure that "dangerous" stuff doesn't get generated
Yes. This. The diffusion model is run by the tensor 4.
Thats sketchy as hell. On device, but requires internet connection?!
@@Specified5706 It processes everything on-device but maybe it requires access to some resources that are on Google's servers, like some dataset or models. Not sure tho, we're talking about Google after all.
The reason why Pixel screenshot can't be created from Gemini app is because they are using two completely separate models one running on device and the other one is running in cloud. Google is keeping all of your screenshots on device for privacy reasons so that's why the Gemini model that's running in cloud can't look into your pixel screenshots app
Makes sense
Beautiful explanation
They know that but choose to ignore it
@@dru4670make your axx sense. We are expecting future ai not this shitty ai.
Just fking make it smart or good enough to differentiate what need to be sent to cloud what stay on the device lmao
By your logic, pixel would have more than 10 separated apps in 2027 each for screenshots, download images, download videos, website bookmarks, photos, videos, edited videos and so on lmao
Just fking integrated the screenshot app into the Gemini or if it's not possible then don't show the screenshot app to user lmao.
Keep believing that, there's no such thing as "on device" and privacy. They just market that so people's won't whine or know about it
This is the best review I've seen of these devices, I can tell from the user experience problems you ran into that you genuinely used the device for an extended period of time. Well done.
I've noticed every single RUclipsr that has a Pixel 9 Pro neglect turning on HDR when they use video boost. If you do not turn on HDR, the video you receive from video boost will be an SDR. Please turn on HDR if you plan on doing any type of video comparison. Otherwise the highlights will be blown out and shadows will be overexposed...
Do you know that
Shadows get underexposed, not overexposed. Just wanted to correct that.
This is why I wish Google would not give so much control sometimes. If the results are obviously better when the videos are in HDR, it should be the default + I imagine they get converted to SDR when shared anywhere on socials anyway.
People aren't necessarily keen on discovering options.
Idk if they changed it for the 9... But on my P8P turning Video Boost ON disables HDR aka it's fuckin useless
@@XeZrunner isn't hdr consumes more battery
Hi Dave,
I asked Gemini on my Pixel 7 to summarise this video and this is what showed up. So apparently this is not a Pixel 9 series-exclusive feature.
In this video, Dave2D reviews the new Google Pixel 9 Pro XL. Overall, he is impressed with the phone, but he has some criticisms. The hardware has minimal updates from the previous generation, and the AI software is not particularly impressive. However, the battery life is very good, and the camera is excellent.
Here are some of the key points from the review:
* Hardware: The phone has a new flat design, a brighter screen, and ultrasonic fingerprint sensors. The haptics and speakers are the same as the previous generation. The new chip is barely faster than the previous generation, and it throttles down quickly when playing heavy games.
* Software: The phone has three new AI features: the ability to summarize a RUclips video using Gemini, the Pixel Studio app, and the ability to search through screenshots. The Pixel Studio app is a lot of fun, but it is not very useful. The ability to search through screenshots is a useful feature.
* Camera: The camera is the best part of the phone. The telephoto lens is much better than the previous generation, and the video stabilization is good. The front-facing camera is now 42 megapixels, but the image quality is not much different from the previous generation.
* Price: The phone is $100 more expensive than the previous generation. However, it is likely to go on sale for much less than the MSRP.
Dave2D recommends the phone to people who are looking for a good camera phone with excellent battery life. However, he does not think that the AI features are worth the price.
Yeah, I used Gemini on my Pixel 7 Pro to make similar pictures. So, is there an advantage of running this part of Gemini on a Pixel 9? My Gemini summary of this RUclips video:
In this video, Google Pixel 9 Pro XL is being reviewed. Overall, the reviewer is impressed with the phone, especially the camera and battery life. However, the reviewer also notes that the phone has some drawbacks, such as the price and the lack of exclusive Gemini features.
Here is a summary of the key points in the video:
* Hardware: The phone has a new flat design, brighter screens, and ultrasonic fingerprint sensors. The new chip is barely faster than the previous generation, but the battery life is very impressive.
* Software: The big thing with phone software is AI. The reviewer attributes the software or the AI experience into kind of two pillars: system software and camera software.
* System software: The reviewer expected more exclusive features that lean on Gemini on this phone, but there are only three:
* The ability to summarize a RUclips video using Gemini.
* The pixel studio, an AI image generation app.
* The ability to search through screenshots for a specific or particular thing.
* Camera software: The reviewer highlights the following AI-powered camera features:
* Super res Zoom: an incredibly powerful 20x Zoom.
* 8K video.
* Magic editor: allows you to kind of remove objects and replace it with your own creation.
* Zoom enhancement: allows you to take a regular photo Zoom in and then use AI to generate detail.
* Camera: The telephoto on the Pixel 9 Pro is way better this year than the previous generation. Video stabilization though still isn't great. The front-facing camera is now a way higher resolution sensor.
* Pricing: The devices are $100 more than the previous generation.
Overall, the reviewer is impressed with the Pixel 9 Pro XL, but notes that the price is a bit high. The reviewer also believes that the AI features, such as the ability to summarize RUclips videos and generate images, are not worth the extra cost. However, the reviewer does believe that the camera features are worth the price.
I hope this summary is helpful!
Lol, that's a joke. Do they not want people to buy the pixel 9 pro? What's the point of buying the pro? Just the matte back is good but that's also partial as some idiot thought of having glossy sides along with it.
I find it baffling they would implement this not as a feature in RUclips, but as an entirely separate app exclusive to certain Android phones that probably asks a server-hosted LLM for a summary in the same datacenters RUclips is being hosted in
Thank you for saving me 20 minutes LOL
@@alex15095 It'll come to youtube down the line. Profits first.
Only Dave2D could watch a "De-Google Your Life" video while reviewing a Google phone 😂
Nicely put 😂
"Hey Google, sum up what Linus said about why Google is bad." x)
We all live in the google world
Google Pixels are the best phones to de-Google. I presume that they do this on purpose, so that if you want to get away from Google, you still have to pay them money.
@@HigherQualityUploads honestly genius, hats off to them.
Screenshot app is another way for Google to know what to sell to you. They should have done it on the Photos app, but it would have been too shady since millions of people use it. However, having separate apps with separate terms of conditions helps them.
For anyone curious the Japanese on Dave's shirt is "ice cream" written in katakana
Google graveyard is going to need a whole seperate page for AI mini-products that didn't make it.
This. These are so gimmicky
I am already skipping most of the AI parts in pixel reviews.
@@RajarshiGhosh 100% peeps are already loosing interest in AI, wait til it becomes a paid service
@@quban79 exactly, such bait. Gemini pro worth $240 I think included for the first year. That'll get many hooked, then next year they start raking it in. I mean smart play but not for me.
@@pieterrossouw8596 it’s not a bait, since you are getting what they said you would get. They are giving it to you free for a year, and at that point in time you need to cancel it if you no longer want it. People need to be responsible and set a reminder as I always do to remind me 1 to 2 days before it renews to cancel it. It’s quite simple.
10:12 I think Google wanted to play it safe after seeing the outrage against Windows Recall. This way it seems like your screenshots are more "secure". Maybe in the future Gemini will auto redirect u to the screenshots app.
The more i watch these reviews of flagship phones leaning heavily on AI, the more I appreciate my Galaxy A52 5G. Simple phone that does the basics perfectly fine for almost 4 years now, no useless AI features that slow down the device, or are not generally available in my country and language, and not a wallet drainer. I do think i have to upgrade now, but it will be something in the budget segment, such as the A55, for sure. It's just not worth it to spend so much on a phone these days...
To you... You could apply the same mindset to anything.
@@mrkring1526 What he's saying is that it has increasingly become a commodity device. No need for this personal values nonsense. It only needs to serve a simple set of functions well enough for a wide range of people. Beyond novelty the general user does not care about special use cases and features.
I can't believe this guy is 46 years old! Needs to share how he stays youthful-looking.
THe bloody of young children. You can see it in his crazy eyes
Easy just be OMAD. One meal a day
Wrong, he looks exactly his age-without filters, hair dye and make up probably even older. (Just low T, no pun intended)
Surely that depends on how many calories you're burning throughout the day? @@teuteu13
@@jackwilson5542nah he actually looks youthful. The only things are the incoming folds around his mouth but he does seriously look good for his age. I've always been impressed
I work at t mobile and got selected to be a pixel advocate last year and I fell in love with the Pixel 8 Pro
I just got my 9 Pro XL today from Google and so far so good!!! It's such a good phone and the battery life is improved! That was my major gripe last year
I'm buying the 9 Pro Fold and switching from iPhone this year!
I used the Pixel 9's Gemini to ask for a summary for this video and it straight up rejected me 💀
💀💀💀
Wtf
Do you have Gemini advanced activated? There should be a red Gemini symbol not a blue one
I managed to get a summary on this video using Gemini app on P6P. Perhaps you have a bug with the P9 or just worded the query weirdly?
@@GFourGadget worked for me
For the past 5-7 years, i really loved all of your intro. They are always cool
Best Pixel 9 review I've seen so far. Love the split screen view where we see you and a the phone next to each other.
@Dave2d really miss your pc build and gaming laptop videos 😢
I like how the first thing in the summary is, "Google tracks you a lot."
I loveeeeeee Dave's review.
They are honest, sincere and clean.
You are so logical with your thought process Dave, excellent review.
Dave: four five sentences. Gemai: nope.
*Gemini
Tf is gemai?
Great video. Just FYI, RUclips summarization currently works with Gemini on the Pixel 8 as well. Always appreciate your videos.
6:59 The pixel studio is processed on device that's why so fast.
This. On device ai is the only kind of ai that doesn't suck...
I'm shocked by his viewpoint that this is a novelty. I love Dave's reviews but if you'd told us we could do this in 2020, we would have lost our minds. AI images are now everywhere. People use them for a ton of stuff. They even pay subscription fees to get them. It is disappointing that it doesn't do people but I am really surprised he thinks it's just a novelty.
@@MattFalberbecause it is? Just because it’s use everywhere doesn’t mean its just a party trick. Why pay a subscription for an art when you can use that money to commission artist who can get you actually real images? Procreate CEO recently announced how he hate Generative AI and I agree. Its just soulless art
I think for the common folks, it really will just be a novelty that isn't used much or forgotten about. There'll of course be those that know how to get the most out of it and use it often, but that's just how shiny new things end up.
This is just speaking out my behind, but if I had to guess, they aren't doing people for the simple reason of it being exploited for NSFW content, whether it be generating new ones or generating/modifying on top of people that the user knows.
@@MattFalber It does feel like a novelty because they built it like one. In the AI image scene there's powerful UIs, LoRAs, custom models. Google built theirs with the most basic textbox, a few style modifiers, and safety that prevents you from generating anything but the most boring things
20X zoom with Video Boost.
You can do a lot with this feature.
Finally someone from Google is a man of culture!
6:57 Aren't they supposed to be generated on device?
Yes. Somehow he doesn't mention it at all. Hoe doesn't know.
Yeah, I thought so too. Didn't they mention the whole reason they added the extra ram was for on device AI?
@@tylerrowe6131That’s for the screenshot and transcribe features
They are generated on device- But the prompt itself is still sent to Google to make sure you're not trying to generate things that are against tos
Thank you. This is the only video that actually introduced how Gemini works by actually showing you how to use it, e.g. pressing the button on the side of the phone.
Gemini live being a monthly fee is just a DOA service, like the hell I'm paying 1500 for a device and then a monthly fee. Ain't no way.
David always does very quality review ❤ less graphic motions, but more angles view of a product
Pixel 9 Pro XL to arrive tomorrow. I've been a buyer each year since Nexus 1. Your review makes me think that at the same time some of the features are getting added to older phones, new features may come to the Pixel 9 Pro. Were you using Android 14 or a beta version of Android 15? Thanks. Excellent review.
Dave2D, always ready with a grounded honest review! thanks for the hard work
Sorry to have to correct you but the summarize youtube videos in Gemini feature is not a Pixel 9 exclusive. I can have it do this on my S21 Ultra 😂
But it works better with pixels is the point
Thank you for actually using the phone. All other reviews only talk about only the hardware.
The introduction of ChatGPT-esque AI has killed any excitement I have for hardware releases from companies since they seem to be prioritizing copying AI features from competitors or introducing gimmicky AI features instead of just delivering a proper mobile experience, addressing long-lasting gripes that consumers have had, and adding features that consumers have been asking for.
This year was such a dead year for smartphone launches.
You're the same mf who would have said smartphones have become so boring just last year when there were no ai features.
what hardware features would you like to see? they've pretty much reached their peak
@@a-don13just look at Chinese phones. E.g. 1" main camera sensor capturing more light, longer better zoom, new battery tech that packs more energy density allowing much better battery life,...
@@a-don13
Considering that Google decided to price these to directly compete with Apple's and Samsung's offerings they definitely need the following:
- Qi 2 wireless support
- 45+ W charging
- SD card support
- higher base storage
- Faster storage(especially the 9 pro XL which has way slower read/write speeds compared to the S24 Ultra). So basically at least the pro XL model need ufs 4.0.
- personally, I hate glossy glass so all the models should just have matte metal rails and matte glass on the back.
- Pro XL model has no reason to exist other than bigger display and battery. Doesn't have any extra features to justify $100 bump.
I also have some software complaints:
- Add option to force Material You on app icons that haven't updated to support it.
- Fix Quick settings menu to work like they used to(like actual toggles instead of buttons to open another window where you have to toggle shit) Literally every other company including Apple does it better. IDK why Google made it worse.
- Unify all Gemini features into one Gemini experience and enhance it with Google Assistant since base Gemini is trash unless you have Advanced version.
- Better battery optimization. From what I'm hearing the 9 pro XL can't even compare to other phones in its class.
- Tone down the post-processing on images
- Despite their claims, video needs significant improvements to justify the price bumps.
There's probably more but I can't think of anymore.
@luc7976 what brand?
I'm gonna stick with my Pixel 4a until next year. I plan to get the 10 Pro XL and I can't wait!!
I think the summarizing of a RUclips video via Gemini isn't exclusive to the pixel 9. I am surprisingly able to do that on my Samsung S21 FE
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The RUclips app can do it with Premium on my Pixel 7
@@JMGauthierHow do u do that?
I can summarize youtube videos on my motorola phone with gemini
Gemini on my S21U can also summarize the videos
Top quality review like always! Good job D2D
14;17 The headline on gemini live - understanding saliva's awareness 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Dave being Dave ...Thanks for the detailed review ... hats off
I like how Dave takes his time to release a thorough review of new tech vs other RUclipsrs who all want to be the first video out missing many details
And he is so unapologetic when need be✅
Every single "reviewer" is an independent advertiser. Nothing more.
I'm happy that Dave just gives his opinion on what he likes, what he dislikes, and calls out gimmicks and marketing crap, so the buyers can decide.
They all literally drop today bro 😂 same timings
Oh u mean mkbhd
his misses a lot too
The speech model is surprisingly natural and fluid, impressive!
I actually like the redesign. Its just pleasing to look at. Also the gemini ai photo editing on this device is kinda scary.
The text to image feature?
10:15 That seems very privacy conscious, honestly. I like that. You have to launch the app for it to be digging through your stuff...
The RUclips video summary isn't a Pixel 9 exclusive. I've used it numerous times on my PC in the past three months.
bro WTF where are the cameras, so cool to notice the quality of your production, cheers!!
God I'm tired of ai
These AI use cases are nothing that people were looking for .. no real life benefits use cases.. just it exists so brands trying to give you problems that these AI models can solve .. basically a solution to a problem that doesn't exist in the first place 😂
Ai is tired of ai
@@shahrukhimam4899 As a developer I have to tell you that you have zero idea of what you're talking about.
@@LarsRyeJeppesen fun fact as a software developer myself ... I beg to disagree strongly on this.. I feel AI as a whole is a good thing... I'm just saying skewing everything towards LLMs is what I'm against at this point..
@@shahrukhimam4899 you don't use any code assist? It is a crazy productivity booster
Dave really put Gemini through the paces 13:30 🤣 Even I was confused
Can anyone relate to this?
As a Pixel 7 Pro owner, there are a few things that really frustrate me about the device-specifically, the lack of customization options for small but important features.
I don't use the search bar at the bottom of the home screen at all, but I can't simply switch it off. The only way to remove it is by using Nova Launcher, which feels unnecessary.
The notification bar tiles are unnecessarily large. I frequently need to switch off my data connection during work, but this requires an extra, unnecessary step because the data toggle is hidden under the "Internet" subcategory. Why isn't there an option to switch to a regular notification bar layout, like the one Samsung and other brands offer, without subcategories?
In Google Photos, I'm constantly seeing the message, "Unlock the power of Google Photos by turning on Backup." What if I don't want to back up anything? The message keeps appearing on my screen, and there's no way to turn it off permanently.
I switched to the Pixel from the OnePlus series because I expected a clean Android experience with Google phones. However, I've found that some of the forced features and persistent messages that you can't disable are even more frustrating than what you'd encounter with other brands.
i am using p7p too, and totally agree the notification bar tiles and google photo
@@lawtam95 😤
That search bar always gets on my nerve. Funny the creator of android doesn't allow basic customization.
@@rahullulay Exactly 🎯
Definitely feel OP pain. I have a p7pro and have accepted nova launcher as necessary to deal with these issues.
Interesting enough is the realization that there isn't really a phone running stock android.
Pixel phones have pixel android version while Samsung has one UI android version.
Once you get to that realization it changes your mindset and expectations.
For example I am now more actively open to considering one UI. The only thing preventing me is the double apps issue.
You are the best when it comes to new and hidden iOS features
Gemini Live is basically Gemini with a speaking UI layer on top. That's why you ended up with a "transcript". It is not a transcript, it is the same Gemini chat and you can actually continue the conversation without using Live.
It feels like you just guessed a lot of these things without actually reading anything from the press launch.
I am always surprised when professional tech reviewers can’t get basic details right.
Gemini Live isn’t a “chatbot”, it’s the voice chat interface with the existing “Chatbot” which is Gemini (various models).
Just dropped and shattered the display of my pixel 7 pro last week. Couldn't have happened at a better time. My pixel 9 pro xl is being delivered tomorrow ❤
Seems like Google are just using the hardware to beta test the AI features and decide which ones to develop further
Straight to the point which made my mind up don’t need all those gimmicks - looking forward to the iPhone reveal👍🏻
Marques said the fingerprint sensor was so much faster, I’m not sure who’s right 😅 lol
I have a pixel 6 the fingerprint reader is just fine. These people are just too spoiled with their riches
@@yoaiou 💯
@@yoaiou yeah the idea that everything is going to be instant and perfect is so unrealistic.
There isn't a single piece of technology that checks both of those boxes. I have the pixel 6 too and the only time I have issues is when I mess up putting my finger on the screen to unlock.
@@KidBowsur they're just nitpicking at this point. Their lives as pretty much given to them for simply complaining. They would melt away if they ever held a mid tier budget phone, meanwhile that's all that most people will ever need.
Also I kept my Pixel 6 because I could root it, so I don't need to give up on it if it doesn't have any more official updates
MKBHD is right, there is a very noticeable difference. I was constantly irritated with how unreliable the sensor was on series 6 and 8 I used, and now the 9 is such a relief.
Finally someone spoke about the panning in video mode! THANK YOU
Absolute deal breaker as a content creator. Going to leave Pixel 7 Pro for the next iPhone
Remember when we all asked for A.I?
Nope me neither.
They (Google and Apple) are struggling to find anything to improve phones, they are so good that at this point I see little reason to upgrade other than software support
I wish they added dual front facing speakers or something exciting like that
I asked for AI, I'm sure many did
Let's stop shitting growth. Then they won't work on anything
A. I. is your plastic pal that's fun to be with!
I am though. 👋 It isn’t there yet but imagine when it can be as good as having a personal secretary on your phone. Now it is LLM, looking forward to LAM for AI assistants to be more capable of doing actions to third party apps.
That convo with Gemini Advanced was sick imo 😱 I donno how it got this "meh" reaction from you 🤷♂
what could've been improved instead of a new size and higher prices:
- 100W charging
- good quality, big ultrawide lens
- variable zoom like Sonys 3.5-7.1x instead of the simple 5x
- expandable storage, headphone-jack, etc
in my opinion:
- plastic back instead of glass (cheaper+doesn't brake)
- bigger battery instead of wireless charging (inefficient, consumes more power and wears the battery more compared to cable charging)
Half of that no phone company will do for their flagships, but the 100W+ fast charging and bigger battery (new silicon batteries already exceed 6000mAh in phones and are also more durable) are actually pretty much the only reason im still debating wether i will wait for OnePlus next release (5 more months …) or get a 9 Pro XL…
Faster processor cause it’s already way behind last years snapdragon and apple silicon
No to a lot of that.
@@jondonnelly3 wym? Only the last two points or also some of the others? And why exactly? Would actually interest me
Glad you don't design phones
In this video, Dave2D reviews the new Google Pixel 9 Pro XL. He starts by talking about the hardware, which is very similar to the previous generation. The new shape is flatter and the screens are brighter. The fingerprint sensors are ultrasonic and the haptics and speakers are the same. The chip is barely faster than the previous generation and it throttles down quickly when playing heavy games. However, the battery life is very impressive.
Then, Dave2D talks about the software, which is the most interesting part of the review. He talks about the new Gemini AI features, which include the ability to summarize a RUclips video, the Pixel Studio app, and the Screenshots app. He also talks about the new camera features, which include the super res Zoom, 8K video, and the magic editor.
Finally, Dave2D talks about the pricing of the new Pixel 9 Pro XL, which is $100 more than the previous generation. He says that the AI features are not worth the price and that you can wait a few months for the price to drop. However, he does say that the camera features are very impressive and that they are worth the price.
14:04 the title says understanding saliva's awareness....😭😭
I bought my pixel 7 at release for 574 euro 2 years ago (649 full price with 75 cashback). It's really crazy to me to see the current prices at release
looks like some AI shenanigans going on with the 30x crop at 20:34. It's always the text. it's more readable on the pixel 8.
Hey, the timestamp is wrong, the video isn't even that long.. do you mean the shot with the street light?
I really want to see a “best laptops of all time” video; going over not just the best right now, but the laptops that were the furthest ahead of their time and were the best when they were released.
that Yotube thing is not only on pixel I also have it on my oppo reno 10 and also a loot of people have it
I don’t know if this has already been mentioned but the reason why Pixel Studio is so fast is because the images are created locally on device, that’s also why they make you download a model when you get a regular consumer Pixel 9 (not a marketing unit).
Wow. 20 mins review from Dave2D. Let’s begin the video.
oh gee a long form dave2d video
time to use gemini to give me a summary
@g00gleh00 lol, do u got the pixel 9?😅
The notable upgrades from the Apps and camera features seemingly breathe new life into the phone. Although, the varying accessibility of the AIs doesn't appear to be the most user-friendly and could potentially deter users.
The fact that you know the names of coniferous and deciduous trees made me instantly love you, Dave.
I always love your takes, Dave 🙏
I can summarize youtube videos on my motorola phone with gemini 😅
Yeah. It's not a Pixel exclusive thing. I can do it on my Xiaomi device in the Gemini app.
Definitely buying this phone. Bought elektronics mag 15 from your review. Awesome Laptop..
Watching De google your life in a Google phone, while making Google itself to summarize the Video. 🤣🤣
A video comparing Google's latest and Samsung's latest would be awesome!
As a pixel user, I am gonna switch to either the upcoming ultra by Samsung or pro max by iPhone because of the sub par performance and battery life and heating issues.
The camera was good tho
The camera only good for 7 months
But they fixed those problems with the pixel 9 tho. 😂😂😂
I am with you man. I am so fed up with my 7pro. the chip is absolutely disgusting
They literally said the battery was his and there's nothing that you're gonna do where you will notice the performance difference.
@@jirawatliw180lmao this doesn't make sense.
Happy Anniversary!! Am I right??
18:11 Dave, these photos clearly went through AI upscaling, just look at the text. Can you clarify if this is what you get straight out of the camera? Or did you have to edit or manipulate them somehow? Because if it's the former, and all photos go through AI upscaling by default... that really sucks, no?
I saw another review which suggests the Pixel photos are over-processed, which could include AI upscaling.
@@andyH_England over-processing isn't as bad as using generative AI though, so I hope it's the former.
What I don't like about it is that it adds detail to places where there isn't any, and removes detail if it just can't figure out what it is (just look closer at the lamp at 18:16). Yeah the image looks sharp, but it's literally not real, it's AI's "idea" of what's on the photo.
@@rl-pavel I agree!
I love you for this video! You totally sold me this phone!
why are we paying for Gemini?
Similar to all the apple service
Unless Gemini is useless
You pay for Gemini advance.
You aren’t, unless you’ve signed up for Gemini Advanced which gives you access to their most powerful models, file uploads (to be analysed by the AI models, long context and a lot of Google storage.
Interestingly, you can achieve the same Gemini functionality on iPhone, via the Google app.
Paste a RUclips link, ask Gemini to summarise the video, and the results are the same.
Admittedly, it doesn’t have the same in-app integration, but the elapsed time (copy>paste>type user request) isn’t dissimilar.
4:01
Where to get that wallpaper?
Great interview. Thanks.
I thought Google said the image generation was done via a local diffusion model? It's fast because it's not going back to a server
It does not work if you are not on the internet so the query is sent to Google for the data needed to process by the local model.
Fair assessment. Wanted to upgrade as soon as next month but now I dunno if I want to wait like you mentioned lol
It's interesting to see how MKBHD reviews this new Google package with a positive bias and Dave with a negative bias.
Dave's is a realistic take IMO, like what you will actually use and benefit from..
That's pretty wild it can take a RUclips video and give you a summary of it.
AI is today’s curve tvs. A gimmick nobody wanted or asked for.
As a programmer I'd disagree. 80%+ of my code at work are done using Claude 3.5 or Gemini 1.5 or Gpt4-128k
Large language models are a muscle memory for me now.
Curved TVs is what led to flexible OLED displays. Those same displays are used everywhere in modern phones
Nah. More like 3D TVs
Not really right now it seem mostly like a gimmick outside a few instance but it's only going to get better real quick and it's here to stay.
We're at the beginning of an AI revolution. Might as well get used to it
Gemini Live is not a “chatbot”. It’s a voice chat interface for the Gemini AI. It isn’t a separate AI/chatbot.
Wow, YOU pay 20 bucks a month to give THEM training data AND the labelling too! Great business model!
Luved how you demo'd it
14:19 "Understanding Saliva's Awareness" 😭
lol
Came here looking for this comment😂
I love my pixel 8 due to the good camera, pocket/purse friendly, all day battery life, screen call, and stock os. But I like that a 6.5 screen is great for media, RUclips, movie, and little gaming.
Wallpaper link?
Your content is wayy better than MKBHD now.
Only reviewer I trust
You're joking right??
🤣🤣🤣
Go watch Mr. Mobile.
@PSYCHOV3N0M no thnx i genuinely like the way dave presents, used to be a huge unbox therapy fan but than found.out they were just shilling for advertisers and we're scamming people annnnd buying bots for their vids so now only Linus and Dave for me
@@PSYCHOV3N0M Thanks for that trash recommendation
I know who to blacklist now
appreciate u lil bro
I trust reviewbrah for the slop I wanna eat
@@zainmumtaz6327good for u bro. But I'll take every reviewer`s word with some caution coz every human got some bias, or can make a mistake or wtv
Thank you for making your content longer.
1:09 many other people have shown much faster unlocks
Interesting review, only for showing what's that had already been presented during the Google presentation. Really informative... at least there's a personal conclusion.
A low performance chip on a $1000 phone is a crime 😒
It’s really not a low performance chip.
@@Jack00777not low performance, but outdated chip
@@Jack00777When it's being compared to SD Gen 2, yes it's extremely low performance for its price tag
@@silis_pap8473 Idk, I saw some comparisons and it doesnt look that bad as people say.
@@silis_pap8473 That's my main complaint. But then there's the 7 year software support. I own a Pixel 8 Pro, not really happy with it but it works. Love my RedMagic8S which is vastly superior (except the camera, its passable) in every way (at half the price) except it's implementation of Android 14 is janky. Not good when I depend on the phone to notify me when a message or call arrives.
16:17 Whuuuttt? That's really really impressive.
18:22 Pretty sure that's software trick, if you look at the sentence in the middle, writing is more clearly readable in the Pixel 8 Pro photo results.
I used google AI to reduce this 20 minute video to a 3 paragraph summary.
How? What program?
Edit: Probably with Gemini software.
Wow that's cool
@@migueljardim8177 he demonstrates it in the video at 3:00
was it 3-4 pages long, like Dave's 3-4 sentences?
Great review/comparison as always!
Can you please compare the newest OnePlus Open (Apex/crimson), the Pixel 9 pro Fold, and the Galaxy Z Fold 6 as well, pleeeeease?!
Would love to see an in depth comparison of all 3 in terms of Hinge Quality, performance, battery life, camera, and multi-tasking. Am a power-user and I’ve been wanting to buy a foldable for some time now because of the multi-tasking features but I’m super skeptical of the previously mentioned categories because it just feels wiser to use something like the s24 Ultra without having to compromise on build quality (hinges), camera reliability, software bs, battery life or performance… Would be great to multitask more but that means nothing if am paying more $ for a compromise in any one of those areas.