@@pcarfan1676 Half right: Well lightweight larger diameter wheels will still be less comfortable than smaller diameter wheels (less rubber to absorb bumps), but they will be much better on the track since there's more rigidity (performance).
Yeah, without running same tire compound, width, and diameter, these tests are just “interesting” but don’t really say much about the lighter weight combo vs higher weight.
This is common misconception as when you’re going up or down tire sizesThe rolling diameter of the tires remains the same . Which in the Model Y’s case is 28” regardless if you’re running 19, 20” or 21” So one is probably asking why the lower times as you downsize wheels , The answer is , you’re shaving off unsprung weight when you downsize wheels. The amount of sidewall increases on the tire to maintain spec rolling diameter .
We have no confirmation he kept the tire OD the same. What you’re describing is how he *should* do it. Btw, I’ve tested the unsprung weight theory on other cars and have not seen wheel weight drops help any more than pulling weight from other parts of the car. No multiplier.
Great video and I subscribe to both channels. Just to clarify since I watched Kyle's show when he bought the 18s for his performance Model 3, those will fit the performance brakes but the stock Tesla 18s will not. Fantastic looking wheels from Martian Wheels and super light too.
Smaller wheels and tires also provides an effective gearing advantage but top speed will be lower. Lighter wheels with correct diameter tires would better isolate weight impact.
There's no size difference / gearing change between the 3 sizes of factory wheels. Smaller wheels come with taller tires. Unless you're talking hypothetically if someone did something dumb and put lower profile tires on a smaller wheel. But then other things are screwed up as well like the ground clearance and speedometer.
Loved the little outside closeup sequences at 6:30 with your takeoff and the lighter tires. Nice editing at 8:26 to compare all the tire sizes overlayed on the draggy screens.
Awesome, I wonder if the standard 19 Gemini's will get similar performance to the 19's you tested. I assume so. Which means the performance upgrade package on the performance models is actually slowing the vehicle down (specifically in drags).
According to my DRAGY my LR AWD with the Performance Boost got 4.14 0 to 60 w/o the 1-foot rollout, and 3.94 seconds with the 1-foot rollout. That's a lot of BANG for the buck considering that's a much cheaper LR AWD Y.
Smaller diameter wheels means lower top speed greater acceleration on any car do to gearing variation. Smaller wheels lighter, there is less of them means easier to accelerate/decelerate so less energy. Dont know about the range efficiency as I dont know the relation ship between rpm, energy consumption and load.
Gosh I just love the sound of the motors and how quiet it is overall! I had a test drive in an early Model 3 and I was frankly surprised and disappointed by the intrusive wind noise on that model.
With the lightest wheels racing a stock model 3P, that would be a very close race. Now if/when Tesla does a SW update to give more bottom-end torque and with lighter wheels, it will beat the model 3P!!
Could you make a video with as small rims as possible (18?) and as beefy tires as possible? so it would look and feel more like a "normal" SUV? It would be very interesting to see how the car feels with normal suv tires For us living in places with winter, dirt roads, lots of pot holes, rough asphalt etc this would be valuable information 🙂 OH. And Thank you for the content. Love it!
If am not wrong by physics since the 18" rim doesn't have the tire diameter to much the 21 original wheel's (smaller diameter) the acceleration is better. In the setup u have max speed and mile range should be significantly reduced. Would be nice a test with 18" or 19" set of aftermarket wheels that match the original total diameter.
i1Tesla, could you do a video comparing the Überturbines and the Induction wheels on the performance model Y? My Tesla rep says they do not fit over the performance brakes, but there are several people 'on the internet' saying they do. And then test performance 0-60 as well as range changes? (and weight differences) Would be a great test!
@@jeanviloria1988 What information? Can you tell me the range difference between the 18" and the 19" on the Model Y? Because I don't see them. I see a range for the Long Range Dual Motor (Which comes in 18" or 19" variant) or the Performance (With 20" wheels).
Thank you so much for all your super informative videos. Do you have any idea if Martian 19's will get more range than the standard 19 Gemini's that come with the car? I'm not sure if they're lighter, but if they are do they compensate enough for the lack of the plastic covers that increase aerodynamic effeciency on the Gemini wheels? Thank you.
As it has been pointed out here several times, the improvement in acceleration has almost nothing to do with the wheel mass. It helps of course but the main difference is the smaller diameter, which increases the forward force. It is the wheel torque divided by the tire radius. It is effectively doing the same thing as a shorter final gear ratio. Some smaller effects are harder to separate from each other as there are many variables. Each se of tires definitely had a slightly different grip level and also the tire pressure could have played a role.
Kind of late to the game here, but the real difference is the moment of the wheel... or rather the force required to accelerate it in radial motion. Yes, the diameter of the wheel is one aspect of that, but it isn't the all encompassing factor. Where the mass is distributed on the wheel/tire combo makes just as big a difference. The more mass (with tespect to the total) towards the hub, the easier it is to turn. Moreover, the lighter the wheel, the less moment... and the easier it is to accelerate. So, point in fact, weight of the wheel absolutely matters.
@@Hokie2k11 It does matter and I am not denying it. But its effect is much smaller than the effect of the modified gear ratio. Most of the car's inertia is in the car body mass itself, which is roughly 2 tons. A small reduction of wheel inertia has just a negligible effect on acceleration.
You are wrong, the circumference of the wheels is the same. The weight of the wheels affect the acceleration, just imagine 2000 kg rims on your car and you will understand.
What a great video, Brian! The acceleration is incredible with the Martians 👽! I love these and the fast racetrack videos, but doughnuts 🍩 are what the bad kids do on the weekends where stupid people stand around and get hurt or killed. I’m not saying anything negative about the two of you, everything that you do for fun is done safely and you’re not blocking traffic flow to make your doughnuts 🍩.
Tesla support hasn't been told if different wheels would work on the performance version so thanks for covering this. Its great to have so much info while everyone learns more and more about this awesome car. Keep it up! Now I'm wondering about regular driving range on these rims...maybe it goes back to the 300+ of the smaller aero rims on performance.
@@i1Tesla for what it's worth, my model Y was delivered this week and I just took my first ride with it for 80 miles on back roads using the Uber wheels. inside temp=70, outside temp=54. Avg was 260 kwh/mile, which is extremely impressive to me. the model 3 would have been closer to 320 kwh/mile.
With the smaller diameter wheels, you effectively changed the final driver ratio. That by itself will gives you better 0-60 and probably a little worse at higher speeds.
It will be also interesting to see the weight comparison of Model Y's performance wheel weight. In my case, I had 20" Vorsteiner V-FF 103 with 265mm and 295mm rear I actually felt like the range was improved on my 2016 Model S 75D. Regardless I subscribed! Thanks for sharing valuable information.
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Are you seeing any traction control intervention with any of the tires? Assuming the Y has the torque to spin the tires on a slightly dirty surface I'd expect that you'd see some TC intervention. Kyle was saying the 18" tires he has were "cheap" and they slid around quite a bit when he was on the track, so TC may be intervening on the launches, and the difference may be even greater if you had a set of grippy 18"s. The other question is whether you guys had access to a 4 wheel dyno near by? An ideal way to get differences in wh/mile would be to get the car up on the dyno and run each set of tires/wheels at 70-80 mph under steady load for a couple of minutes. That would get rid of any variation for road/wind/traffic, etc.
@@christmasisawesome9348 The smaller wheels will have non-performance rated tires, lower rolling resistance, and lighter weight, due to being about 10% smaller. All of this lowers weight, increases acceleration, and adds range
Thanks for posting the videos so fast. I do have a reservation for Model Y performance but I am torn between getting the performance package upgrade or just stay with 19 inch wheels to get the extra range. Were you able to test the range with 18 inch wheels VS the 21? My thought is to get the 21 inch wheels and down grade to the 18' later on but not sure if that will increase the range.
Didn't do the test with a proper tire on the 18 inch ones? Was the outer diameter not the same as the stock tire should be? That affects things. Should consider that variable.
I am impressed that you got better than advertised on the smaller wheels, is there any chance it was some kind of “speedometer” error? Please note the use of speedometer in quotation marks, I am truly asking if it could have been any kind of system error? I can’t think of how it could’ve so I am asking you. Hope you are having more fun than it is to watch, it would you would be having a lot of fun! Cheers!
I dont think Erik was using a dragy..it was some other device, that may also have something to do with the slightly different times. thats crazy how much of a difference the wheels/tires made in 0-60
Kinda hate that they make you choose the 21" with no rubber if you get "performance". Makes no sense why they don't let you chose the other two options they have with the standard (given that size works fine with the brakes). It forces you to pay even more to get different rims and tires to get back your range, driving comfort and apparently actual "performance".
@@taipoxin Yeah, I guess I mean you can't select the full performance package options without the wheel. I want the brakes and other styling aspects but not the wheels. They don't discount anything for not getting the upgraded brakes, looks and more expensive wheels so it frustrating to not have the additional wheel option to not downgrade the range and ride. Not like it can't be done in seconds at the factory or dealer location.
So now as of this week in the Model Y what used to be the performance upgrade is now standard for all Model Y Performance. I was about to pull the trigger on Performance with no Performance upgrade. I really don't want the 21" wheels (risk of blowout, increased expense, decreased range). For a layman like me it's hard to sort out what options I have for switching out the wheels given the concern that the performance brakes limit what will fit. The video mentions Martian 18" fit. What other options are there? Knowing what doesn't fit would also be helpful, thanks very much.
What is the tire model and size specs used with the 18" wheels? I'm planning on replicating this on a Model Y Performance with a Michelin All Season version because it gets wet and cold where I drive.
Did you put the 7.5 or 8.5 Martian wheels on the Model Y ? I'm asking because Martian shows the 7.5 for the 3, but the Y choices on their site only go to 8.5. Whatever wheel you put, it seemed to fit and work just nice!
I think you always had HVAC off, curious, any idea how much having a window open or headlights on increases 0-60 times? Probably minuscule, still curious. I’m guessing no to the window (too slow to matter) but yes to the headlights (unless Tesla software accounts for those additional watts and compensates to offset).
@@christophermorales1509 not after my experience. The hatch broke. The left rear door kept getting stuck locked. The screen froze sometimes. Then it got this smudge looking thing right in the middle but on the screen itself. They replaced that after 6 weeks then two weeks later the whole thing turned off on me. On the road while driving. I paid out of my own pocket to have it towed to a service center. A couple weeks later they replaced some faulty harness and I immediately sold it.
I have a Model Y Performance with the heavy uberturbine wheels. If I was to switch to some 19' X 8.5" Martian wheels, what do you think the range increase would be?
0:42 Proof that dogs aren’t attracted to the noise of the engine. But rather the “pretty spinning thingys”... Or could be their reflection and they think it’s an other dog? Ahhh a doggy dog world.
What is considered "noticeable" by humans? Since most of us are not "drag racing" people off the line, Is a 3.5 to 3.23 noticeable? Can someone tell the difference between 4.5 and 3.5 seconds? I think the difference between 5 seconds and 3.5 seconds is likely noticeable but can anyone tell the difference between 3.9 and 3.2 seconds? Its an important question, since people will spend 5k-10k more for a second faster acceleration. Unless you are going to the track... ??
Everyone has different sensitivity levels so the answer is subjective... up to a point. I would say most people are definitely going to notice a full second difference as the accel gets quicker. So between 3.5 and 4.5 is absolutely noticeable.
The Dragy is extremely accurate. I’ve used it in my S P100D at the drag strip and it is spot on with the actual numbers on the printout from the track
👍 it's a fast car. That's for sure!
so you got yours already? gees, everyone and their granny is getting them.. lol
DÆrik For sure, David & Erik!
That's faster than the performance model 3 darn
With the 18” wheels, it ran da same 0-60 as my P3D with 70% SOC. Impressive . Thank you !
Silly how people like larger wheels even though we know it adversely affects performance and comfort.
Rob Ostry not true with lightweight forged wheels
@@pcarfan1676 Half right: Well lightweight larger diameter wheels will still be less comfortable than smaller diameter wheels (less rubber to absorb bumps), but they will be much better on the track since there's more rigidity (performance).
You need big wheels for big brakes.
They look better. That counts for something. No-one puts small wheels on an M4 to improve range. Why do it with a performance EV?
And more fragile
I'd like to see Martian make some 17s that fit over the LR brakes. I want that high sidewall.
Same. I want maximum ride quality
three tenths of a second just changing tires is amazing!
And rollout reduced.
The smaller diameter tires give you a lower effective gear ratio which is the main reason the acceleration is faster.
It depends on profile of the tire and width.
Yeah, without running same tire compound, width, and diameter, these tests are just “interesting” but don’t really say much about the lighter weight combo vs higher weight.
This is common misconception as when you’re going up or down tire sizesThe rolling diameter of the tires remains the same . Which in the Model Y’s case is 28” regardless if you’re running 19, 20” or 21”
So one is probably asking why the lower times as you downsize wheels , The answer is , you’re shaving off unsprung weight when you downsize wheels. The amount of sidewall increases on the tire to maintain spec rolling diameter .
@@nevergone3424 I know that, but I'm pretty sure in this video the actual tires are smaller.
We have no confirmation he kept the tire OD the same. What you’re describing is how he *should* do it. Btw, I’ve tested the unsprung weight theory on other cars and have not seen wheel weight drops help any more than pulling weight from other parts of the car. No multiplier.
Thanks for all the great Model Y info! 👍🏻👍🏻
Would love to see what the 1/4 mile time is like in these lighter wheels.
Great video and I subscribe to both channels. Just to clarify since I watched Kyle's show when he bought the 18s for his performance Model 3, those will fit the performance brakes but the stock Tesla 18s will not. Fantastic looking wheels from Martian Wheels and super light too.
Smaller wheels and tires also provides an effective gearing advantage but top speed will be lower. Lighter wheels with correct diameter tires would better isolate weight impact.
There's no size difference / gearing change between the 3 sizes of factory wheels. Smaller wheels come with taller tires.
Unless you're talking hypothetically if someone did something dumb and put lower profile tires on a smaller wheel. But then other things are screwed up as well like the ground clearance and speedometer.
Oh nevermind I see they put the 3 wheels on.
Loved the little outside closeup sequences at 6:30 with your takeoff and the lighter tires. Nice editing at 8:26 to compare all the tire sizes overlayed on the draggy screens.
3.2 is a pretty wild time for a semi-big crossover. Model 3 must have the capability to go faster.
It's almost as fast as an Urus lmao.
A Y longrange acelleration boost with 18inch, vs standard performance would be viral video, lol
Almost 40K go Brian!
Still would like to know range with the smaller tires....
I know from 20” down to 18” is a 40 mile range improvement (model 3) but not sure what 21” down to 18” would be?
More proof that the beefier 18" wheels are better. Mic drop!
Awesome, I wonder if the standard 19 Gemini's will get similar performance to the 19's you tested. I assume so. Which means the performance upgrade package on the performance models is actually slowing the vehicle down (specifically in drags).
According to my DRAGY my LR AWD with the Performance Boost got 4.14 0 to 60 w/o the 1-foot rollout, and 3.94 seconds with the 1-foot rollout. That's a lot of BANG for the buck considering that's a much cheaper LR AWD Y.
Love the new headliner you added at the beginning
I still believe that in the near future the Y will cannibalize the 3 sales (except for the lowest cost SR 3 version) and that is fine IMHO.
wasn't the words from Elon: it will sell as much as S3X combined? 🤔
www.businessinsider.fr/us/elon-musk-predicts-tesla-model-y-outsell-s-3-x-2019-10
Now we actually need a proper tyre size with the 18inchers, that keeps speedometer OM
Should be 235/55r18 for my Model Y performance if I buy the 18 inch Martian wheels. Nokian One tire would be my ideal choice.
Excellent testing and very thorough! Appreciate you doing this!!!!
Smaller diameter wheels means lower top speed greater acceleration on any car do to gearing variation. Smaller wheels lighter, there is less of them means easier to accelerate/decelerate so less energy. Dont know about the range efficiency as I dont know the relation ship between rpm, energy consumption and load.
Thanks for 18" fitment test. Very helpful
Glad it was helpful!
Wunderbar!!!
A fast big 3! With every video from your Y my wish gets greater to get one!
Awesome!
Dankeschön für das Video.
👍👍👍🇺🇸🚐🇺🇸😷😷😷
Gosh I just love the sound of the motors and how quiet it is overall! I had a test drive in an early Model 3 and I was frankly surprised and disappointed by the intrusive wind noise on that model.
I would love to find out what range you get out of the Model Y with each wheel. Could you get closer to a 300 mile range with the lighter wheels?
But small wheel means different gear ratio, sort of..,so is that maybe the reason?
With the lightest wheels racing a stock model 3P, that would be a very close race. Now if/when Tesla does a SW update to give more bottom-end torque and with lighter wheels, it will beat the model 3P!!
Could you make a video with as small rims as possible (18?) and as beefy tires as possible? so it would look and feel more like a "normal" SUV?
It would be very interesting to see how the car feels with normal suv tires
For us living in places with winter, dirt roads, lots of pot holes, rough asphalt etc this would be valuable information 🙂
OH. And Thank you for the content. Love it!
18 inch rims are the smallest rims you can fit on the Y. But not all 18's
If am not wrong by physics since the 18" rim doesn't have the tire diameter to much the 21 original wheel's (smaller diameter) the acceleration is better. In the setup u have max speed and mile range should be significantly reduced. Would be nice a test with 18" or 19" set of aftermarket wheels that match the original total diameter.
You use tires that have the same outer diameter (to close approximation) regardless of wheel size.
i1Tesla, could you do a video comparing the Überturbines and the Induction wheels on the performance model Y? My Tesla rep says they do not fit over the performance brakes, but there are several people 'on the internet' saying they do. And then test performance 0-60 as well as range changes? (and weight differences) Would be a great test!
Can you test the range of the 18" vs 19" vs 20"? Been debating which wheels to get.
P.S. thanks for the great content!
The information that Tesla provides is pretty accurate
If you want bigger wheels a Avante Garde are light 23lbs 22 inch wheels
@@jeanviloria1988 What information? Can you tell me the range difference between the 18" and the 19" on the Model Y? Because I don't see them. I see a range for the Long Range Dual Motor (Which comes in 18" or 19" variant) or the Performance (With 20" wheels).
Thanks for this awesome video I was thinking of 18" for the model Y but wasn't sure what brand to get. NOW I KNOW 🤗
Thank you so much for all your super informative videos. Do you have any idea if Martian 19's will get more range than the standard 19 Gemini's that come with the car? I'm not sure if they're lighter, but if they are do they compensate enough for the lack of the plastic covers that increase aerodynamic effeciency on the Gemini wheels?
Thank you.
As it has been pointed out here several times, the improvement in acceleration has almost nothing to do with the wheel mass. It helps of course but the main difference is the smaller diameter, which increases the forward force. It is the wheel torque divided by the tire radius. It is effectively doing the same thing as a shorter final gear ratio.
Some smaller effects are harder to separate from each other as there are many variables. Each se of tires definitely had a slightly different grip level and also the tire pressure could have played a role.
Kind of late to the game here, but the real difference is the moment of the wheel... or rather the force required to accelerate it in radial motion.
Yes, the diameter of the wheel is one aspect of that, but it isn't the all encompassing factor. Where the mass is distributed on the wheel/tire combo makes just as big a difference. The more mass (with tespect to the total) towards the hub, the easier it is to turn. Moreover, the lighter the wheel, the less moment... and the easier it is to accelerate. So, point in fact, weight of the wheel absolutely matters.
@@Hokie2k11 It does matter and I am not denying it. But its effect is much smaller than the effect of the modified gear ratio.
Most of the car's inertia is in the car body mass itself, which is roughly 2 tons. A small reduction of wheel inertia has just a negligible effect on acceleration.
You are wrong, the circumference of the wheels is the same. The weight of the wheels affect the acceleration, just imagine 2000 kg rims on your car and you will understand.
@@140120145 It is not the same. Check the tire dimensions and calculate it for yourself.
Love that ev sound
What a great video, Brian! The acceleration is incredible with the Martians 👽! I love these and the fast racetrack videos, but doughnuts 🍩 are what the bad kids do on the weekends where stupid people stand around and get hurt or killed. I’m not saying anything negative about the two of you, everything that you do for fun is done safely and you’re not blocking traffic flow to make your doughnuts 🍩.
Really informative. Thank you.
I don't see the tires specs. What are the tires size please?
Thank you for all the effort.
Was the Mars wheel setup "square"? What width? and offset? please.
Tesla support hasn't been told if different wheels would work on the performance version so thanks for covering this. Its great to have so much info while everyone learns more and more about this awesome car. Keep it up! Now I'm wondering about regular driving range on these rims...maybe it goes back to the 300+ of the smaller aero rims on performance.
I will be testing different wheels and tires very soon
@@i1Tesla for what it's worth, my model Y was delivered this week and I just took my first ride with it for 80 miles on back roads using the Uber wheels. inside temp=70, outside temp=54. Avg was 260 kwh/mile, which is extremely impressive to me. the model 3 would have been closer to 320 kwh/mile.
This is wrong since the gearing is now lighter. You would need bigger tiers on that rim to get I right.
With the smaller diameter wheels, you effectively changed the final driver ratio. That by itself will gives you better 0-60 and probably a little worse at higher speeds.
You use tires with approximately the same outer diameter no matter what wheel size you use.
You *should* do that, but nowhere in the video is that confirmed. Some of these came from another vehicle.
@@christophermorales1509 the wheel gap at 6:17 tells me he kept the sidewall way too small.
It will be also interesting to see the weight comparison of Model Y's performance wheel weight. In my case, I had 20" Vorsteiner V-FF 103 with 265mm and 295mm rear I actually felt like the range was improved on my 2016 Model S 75D. Regardless I subscribed! Thanks for sharing valuable information.
I can't wait to get my Model Y as well. Oh, and see you again soon. Hopefully at the track. ;-)
Model y stealth performance is the better choice, even better would one with 18s and sticky tires.. hmm
Awesome! MORE!!!!!!!
More to come!
About 0.4sec is a big difference..! What about 19inch tesla wheels?
Thank you
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Seeing the dog chase the car makes me wanna see a model y vs cheetah drag race all of a sudden
Another great vid
The Caliper is the same as the Model 3 but the Disk is different. It is a full Steel Disk at the Y. At the Model 3 it has a Aluminum Center.
Are you seeing any traction control intervention with any of the tires? Assuming the Y has the torque to spin the tires on a slightly dirty surface I'd expect that you'd see some TC intervention. Kyle was saying the 18" tires he has were "cheap" and they slid around quite a bit when he was on the track, so TC may be intervening on the launches, and the difference may be even greater if you had a set of grippy 18"s. The other question is whether you guys had access to a 4 wheel dyno near by? An ideal way to get differences in wh/mile would be to get the car up on the dyno and run each set of tires/wheels at 70-80 mph under steady load for a couple of minutes. That would get rid of any variation for road/wind/traffic, etc.
Tires on the 18" wheel appear to be sentury UHP 225/45r18 (Watch kyle's video @2:18 ruclips.net/video/zDPYAexE4Wk/видео.html )
are the 19's you tested the stock performance wheels without the extra "21" performance upgrade"? someone should show this to Dragtimes
I have a tow hitch would that lower my 0 to 60 ???
Smart people will run on 18s
You'll get a performance and a range boost of around 10%
How decreasing the wheels size increase the range?
@@christmasisawesome9348 The smaller wheels will have non-performance rated tires, lower rolling resistance, and lighter weight, due to being about 10% smaller. All of this lowers weight, increases acceleration, and adds range
@@InvestBetter. Will a set of lightweight(same weight as the 18s) 20s with a non perf tires produce the same effect?
If this is really a fact then I am surprised that Tesla did not put lighter wheels and improve the range!
Anyone notice the DragTimes soundtrack at 2:05? Somehow I laughed so hard at that!
Thanks for the info and testing,am planning in getting some Rays Japanese forged wheels in 19" or 20" am not going to be swapping wheels frequently.
Thanks for posting the videos so fast. I do have a reservation for Model Y performance but I am torn between getting the performance package upgrade or just stay with 19 inch wheels to get the extra range. Were you able to test the range with 18 inch wheels VS the 21? My thought is to get the 21 inch wheels and down grade to the 18' later on but not sure if that will increase the range.
Important to know the tire size, that adds a lot of weight. 265/45 vs 255/40, etc....
Didn't do the test with a proper tire on the 18 inch ones? Was the outer diameter not the same as the stock tire should be? That affects things. Should consider that variable.
I am impressed that you got better than advertised on the smaller wheels, is there any chance it was some kind of “speedometer” error? Please note the use of speedometer in quotation marks, I am truly asking if it could have been any kind of system error? I can’t think of how it could’ve so I am asking you. Hope you are having more fun than it is to watch, it would you would be having a lot of fun! Cheers!
draggy is awesome!
Tell me please - why 3.23?? Realy 3.42??
damn that is redonkulous! Will beat almost any car under $250,000.
Worth it.
Awesome video. Thanks for this!!! Still convincing my wife.
I dont think Erik was using a dragy..it was some other device, that may also have something to do with the slightly different times. thats crazy how much of a difference the wheels/tires made in 0-60
No Erik uses a bluetooth v-box.
Kinda hate that they make you choose the 21" with no rubber if you get "performance". Makes no sense why they don't let you chose the other two options they have with the standard (given that size works fine with the brakes). It forces you to pay even more to get different rims and tires to get back your range, driving comfort and apparently actual "performance".
You can choose the 19" Gemini wheels without paying more and still get the Performance level acceleration.
@@taipoxin Yeah, I guess I mean you can't select the full performance package options without the wheel. I want the brakes and other styling aspects but not the wheels. They don't discount anything for not getting the upgraded brakes, looks and more expensive wheels so it frustrating to not have the additional wheel option to not downgrade the range and ride. Not like it can't be done in seconds at the factory or dealer location.
We need 1/4 mile times on those TSW or Martian Wheels!
Nice job!
Thanks!
Can you provide tire size associated to each drag result?
He completely ignored this detail, which is really annoying. Give us all the info! The tire OD probably impacted results more than the weight.
Tesla told me that 21 inch are only recommended on performance y due to power to weight ratio specifically.
That is Tesla being scared to tell you different than stock
@@i1Tesla they want to discuss in person lol
DAErik is also using a different device the draggy and VBOX.
Test the range on the 20's please! Or try too.
We did. I am just doing a behind the scenes of Kyle's video.He goes into great detail at the end.
ruclips.net/video/wgmd86OPct0/видео.html
5:50 that’s what she said 🙅🏾♂️ that wheel gap
they need to make those Martian wheels on 20's!!!
I know. In satin black too!
so basically .2 or .3sec slower than the M3, exactly like tesla advertises it on the website, thats great.
So now as of this week in the Model Y what used to be the performance upgrade is now standard for all Model Y Performance. I was about to pull the trigger on Performance with no Performance upgrade. I really don't want the 21" wheels (risk of blowout, increased expense, decreased range). For a layman like me it's hard to sort out what options I have for switching out the wheels given the concern that the performance brakes limit what will fit. The video mentions Martian 18" fit. What other options are there? Knowing what doesn't fit would also be helpful, thanks very much.
What is the tire model and size specs used with the 18" wheels? I'm planning on replicating this on a Model Y Performance with a Michelin All Season version because it gets wet and cold where I drive.
Anyone thinks that with some future updates will see neck and neck with Lambo Urus?($200k+ Suv) I`m pretty confident...at least to 100mph...
Did you put the 7.5 or 8.5 Martian wheels on the Model Y ? I'm asking because Martian shows the 7.5 for the 3, but the Y choices on their site only go to 8.5.
Whatever wheel you put, it seemed to fit and work just nice!
They are the 7.5 Martian wheels. I love them
I wonder if these numbers would of been faster if you had fully charged 100% for each run.
The AI is probably trying to maintain the factory numbers.
AWESOME!!!
I think you always had HVAC off, curious, any idea how much having a window open or headlights on increases 0-60 times? Probably minuscule, still curious. I’m guessing no to the window (too slow to matter) but yes to the headlights (unless Tesla software accounts for those additional watts and compensates to offset).
What’s the overall height of the different wheel and tire combos? I’d like to swap my 21s for 19s but keep the exact same ride height
Same question here…
@@gokaruna heres the answer. Trade yours in. Mine was a GD DISASTER
Could you elaborate on that disaster? Don’t recommend a model Y?
@@christophermorales1509 not after my experience. The hatch broke. The left rear door kept getting stuck locked. The screen froze sometimes. Then it got this smudge looking thing right in the middle but on the screen itself. They replaced that after 6 weeks then two weeks later the whole thing turned off on me. On the road while driving.
I paid out of my own pocket to have it towed to a service center. A couple weeks later they replaced some faulty harness and I immediately sold it.
I have a Model Y Performance with the heavy uberturbine wheels. If I was to switch to some 19' X 8.5" Martian wheels, what do you think the range increase would be?
0:42 Proof that dogs aren’t attracted to the noise of the engine. But rather the “pretty spinning thingys”...
Or could be their reflection and they think it’s an other dog?
Ahhh a doggy dog world.
Dogs by nature loves to chase things. Instinct.
Ellie loves to see herself in mirrors etc so it could be that with wheels! She’s always been fascinated with slow moving wheels
What is considered "noticeable" by humans? Since most of us are not "drag racing" people off the line, Is a 3.5 to 3.23 noticeable? Can someone tell the difference between 4.5 and 3.5 seconds? I think the difference between 5 seconds and 3.5 seconds is likely noticeable but can anyone tell the difference between 3.9 and 3.2 seconds? Its an important question, since people will spend 5k-10k more for a second faster acceleration. Unless you are going to the track... ??
Everyone has different sensitivity levels so the answer is subjective... up to a point. I would say most people are definitely going to notice a full second difference as the accel gets quicker. So between 3.5 and 4.5 is absolutely noticeable.
Would've been nice to mention which Model Y trim this is...
Performance
range test on the 18x7.5 please!
Very cool
Rolling start? 1:51 Smaller diameter wheel/tire combo will not be a fair comparison.
No rolling start. The camera car was rolling toward me
i1Tesla You’re right!.... my bad 🤗
What were the tire sizes used?
Dope vid
Thank you