Does Tesla Build a Good AWD System? We Put The Model Y On The TFL Slip Test To Find Out!

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  • Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
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    In this video we put the new Tesla Model Y through the TFL slip test to see how the all wheel drive system performs. Can this all electric crossover SUV compete with a gas car when the going gets tough in snow, ice, or mud? We put it through its paces on the roller test to find out!
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    CHAPTERS:
    0:00 Introduction
    0:22 What is The TFL Slip Test?
    0:53 Front Wheel Slip Test
    2:04 Promo
    3:01 Rear Wheel Slip Test
    4:00 Diagonal Slip Test
    5:53 3 Wheel Slip Test (Rear)
    8:00 3 Wheel Slip Test (Front)
    11:04 How Did It Perform?
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Комментарии • 804

  • @TFLcar
    @TFLcar  3 года назад +54

    "Thanks to Keeps for sponsoring this video! Head to keeps.com/TFL to get 50% off your first order of hair loss treatment"

    • @user-jt1jv8vl9r
      @user-jt1jv8vl9r 3 года назад +6

      What a random sponsor! 😆

    • @davidecavicchini
      @davidecavicchini 3 года назад

      Would the test have a different result by adding weight on the front?

    • @jetah50
      @jetah50 3 года назад

      @@davidecavicchini EVs are pretty heavy as is. it seems as though the front driver size isn't a main power distribution of the whole vehicle.

    • @Narinjas
      @Narinjas 3 года назад

      And the best thing is the vehicle will be software upgrade so i wish you will do this test again in 6 months.

    • @User888User
      @User888User 3 года назад

      Sure youse minoxidil ... maybe check what the 16% danger is using it, but hey lol

  • @Rhynri
    @Rhynri 3 года назад +137

    I once drove an X onto a snow covered worn metal bed for a transport truck (the kind that lowers to make a ramp). Although it was steep and almost tractionless, it did this really goofy thing where it locked down all the wheels and only turned one at a time while pulsing the brakes to slowly scoot the car up onto the trailer. I was amazed it did it considering I could barely walk on the surface with winter boots.
    Some impressive tech either way.

    • @TheGuruStud
      @TheGuruStud 5 месяцев назад +1

      Traction is no problem when you weigh over 5k lbs.

    • @ChaseB1896
      @ChaseB1896 5 месяцев назад +10

      @@TheGuruStud When you weigh over 5k lbs you also have to work harder to make it up a slope. More weight doesn't = more traction, all that matters is where the weight is distributed. A 7k lb truck with 4x4 would struggle in many icy scenarios when a small car with a good AWD system would do well.

    • @mathewm3073
      @mathewm3073 4 месяца назад +1

      @@TheGuruStudsince when does weight mean better traction

    • @iskdude9922
      @iskdude9922 Месяц назад

      ​@@mathewm3073better in snow. Not ice

    • @edgeofsins
      @edgeofsins 25 дней назад

      ​@@mathewm3073
      It crunches through snow and ice a little better and prevents tire slipping if they have more weight pushing them against the ground

  • @Rich_123
    @Rich_123 3 года назад +280

    You didn't show the wheel that was on the ground, which I heard spinning on the pavement at one point.

    • @Cartel834
      @Cartel834 3 года назад +4

      Yeah I heard that too

    • @e30tomas54
      @e30tomas54 3 года назад +33

      Idk why he didn't put roller under right wheel so we can see it...

    • @niall21
      @niall21 3 года назад +55

      Yeah kind of a weird thing to hide... makes the test feel invalid.

    • @drink15
      @drink15 3 года назад +4

      @@niall21 it couldn’t get off the rollers as intended, so seeing it doesn’t change the results

    • @niall21
      @niall21 3 года назад +36

      @@drink15 Sure it does. We don't know what the 4th wheel was doing or even if it was on a wet patch or a banana peel. They essentially have only published 75% of their results. It certainly wasn't okay when VW didn't publish all their diesel emissions findings.

  • @nihongobenkyoshimasu3190
    @nihongobenkyoshimasu3190 3 года назад +109

    7:30 It would be nicer to see the front left wheel instead of the rear right wheel in the upper corner since the rear wheel was already visible.

    • @dylanw8823
      @dylanw8823 4 месяца назад

      100%. I thought all 4 wheels were on rollers 😂😂😂

  • @HoosierDaddy_
    @HoosierDaddy_ 3 года назад +207

    This should be done on all awd/4wd vehicles TFL gets to test.

    • @stoneimage666
      @stoneimage666 3 года назад +8

      I totally agree!!! Awesome test and it really shows how good or bad the AWD/4WD works.

    • @christopherpedersen1820
      @christopherpedersen1820 3 года назад +7

      Certainly all wheel drive and also 4 wheel drive with locking diffs or limited slip. An open diff 4 wheel drive actually SHOULD fail the diagonal or 3 wheel test though. I suppose you could still do it, but it's kind of just a fact that if you have 2 open diffs and no traction on 1 wheel on each axel you're stuck.

    • @falconwaver
      @falconwaver 3 года назад +3

      Same thing goes for the F150 with the 4 auto.

    • @HoosierDaddy_
      @HoosierDaddy_ 3 года назад +1

      @@christopherpedersen1820 ~ I was thinking of the test for the traction control systems. Some are very good, but some seem very weak. I don't know if any vehicles are sold anymore without some kind of traction control??

    • @christopherpedersen1820
      @christopherpedersen1820 3 года назад +2

      @@HoosierDaddy_ Yeah, after I commented I realized that for modern things that may not be entirely true. Even 4wd with open diffs is effectively all wheel drive if you have some traction control. And yeah in the US everything since 2011 has to have traction control I guess.

  • @alvaro4k
    @alvaro4k 3 года назад +84

    At the end there, where he “cheats”, yeah, that’s an actual technique that people should know and not just rely on the computers/electronics of the cars, as we’ve seen.

    • @davidfarmer
      @davidfarmer 3 года назад +16

      Its a bit different than in the real world, him turning prevented him from rolling on the rollers. in real life you might be stuck on a wide patch of ice on a hill with no traction near by.

    • @alvaro4k
      @alvaro4k 3 года назад +8

      @@davidfarmer I honestly didn’t notice that he turned the wheel to get friction on the non-roller part. I thought he was tapping the brakes like you do for diy traction control, that’s what I was actually talking about.

    • @DanAshleyChicago
      @DanAshleyChicago 3 года назад

      I live in Chicago and park on the street. The city only plows the middle of the street, so the sides where we park are snow packed. We turn the wheel all the time to try to get a little traction on our front wheel drive vehicles. The snowpack to the left vs straight ahead vs to the right might be a little bit different in terms of traction. We don't consider this maneuver to be cheating.

    • @garrettstevens2232
      @garrettstevens2232 3 года назад

      @@alvaro4k I'm not sure about the Tesla but other EV's I've drive cut all power if you touch the brakes. No way to use both at the same time.

    • @alvaro4k
      @alvaro4k 3 года назад

      @@garrettstevens2232 yeah, a lot of modern gas cars do this as well. I think the intent isn’t necessarily to move the car and press the brakes etc, it’s the change in momentum that gets generated from the spinning wheels and then sudden brake movements, that help to make small changes in grip level somewhere. Imagine a car in a teter toter type situation. That’s the overall principle I think.

  • @drsus0
    @drsus0 3 года назад +132

    Easily my favorite AWD test for cars on RUclips ....really brings out the truth about how these cars are programmed and engineered

    • @bhavjotkang8004
      @bhavjotkang8004 3 года назад +1

      not really he didnt even show all the wheels so we dont know if the tesla failed because of the tires or system

    • @millenniumzeek
      @millenniumzeek 3 года назад

      Plus an incline changes things

    • @LauS0
      @LauS0 3 года назад +4

      @@bhavjotkang8004 it's still a fail in a real situation

    • @TheGuruStud
      @TheGuruStud 5 месяцев назад

      engineered like shit, yep lol

  • @HAHA.GoodMeme
    @HAHA.GoodMeme 3 года назад +19

    props to Tommy for noticing it caught the side. TFL honest reviews as always

  • @joeyg283
    @joeyg283 3 года назад +101

    Roller test Tesla awd vs Subaru symmetrical awd vs Audi Quattro (a good version). I’d watch that.

    • @marcoserbach3848
      @marcoserbach3848 3 года назад +9

      @@layne4376 There's a test on YT of all brands ( BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Toyota, Honda, Subaru...) in the snow doing starting and slalom. The Audi Quattro won.

    • @exothermal.sprocket
      @exothermal.sprocket 3 года назад +1

      Quattro vs. X-drive vs. Symmetrical vs. some full EV.

    • @WilbertIsRandom
      @WilbertIsRandom 3 года назад

      @@marcoserbach3848 link please?

    • @Hallowsaw
      @Hallowsaw 3 года назад +2

      @@layne4376 i know the pilot is different but i passed a pilot that was stuck in 8 inches of snow on the road while me in my subaru legacy passed him with very little issue

    • @TheSakuragihanimichi
      @TheSakuragihanimichi 3 года назад

      Add in range rover or land rover too.

  • @henrytang2203
    @henrytang2203 3 года назад +117

    Perhaps we could see a "virtual locked diff" mode in a future software update.

    • @scottmohrman7789
      @scottmohrman7789 3 года назад +10

      I would like to see that my Cybertruck.

    • @perakojot6524
      @perakojot6524 3 года назад +25

      You would like to have open diff converted to a locked diff through a software??? Gee, how clueless is a typical Tesla fan about mechanics or cars overall...

    • @henrytang2203
      @henrytang2203 3 года назад +5

      Ah that's right, we got a motor on each of the front and back axles, and an open diff on each axle.
      For a sec there, I thought it was one motor per wheel. That would be awesome for torque vectoring and simulated locked diff. But not the case.

    • @perakojot6524
      @perakojot6524 3 года назад +3

      @@henrytang2203 You can always buy Rimac C2, that one has 4 motors, and costs 2+ millions :D.

    • @erikkovacs3097
      @erikkovacs3097 3 года назад +3

      @@perakojot6524 Software can aggressively apply the brake to the slipping wheel which, while not like a locked diff, is more like limited slip diff.

  • @gamma-rayburst4271
    @gamma-rayburst4271 3 года назад +72

    It sounds like that front left wheel on the ground was spinning. Was that front left wheel having traction problem as well or was it the vehicle not being able to send enough power to just one front wheel to propel itself?

    • @veightrwd8828
      @veightrwd8828 3 года назад +28

      I know, I was wanting to see the tire that had traction but they never showed. Pretty damn lame. They showed all the rest, what’s the deal?

    • @uberragen2181
      @uberragen2181 3 года назад +11

      I understand where your mind is at, but the sound of the tire spinning on pavement likely was one or more tires touching the edge of the rollers. Those tires used in this test are the newest high performance 3 mountain peak all season tires. I highly doubt it was slipping on the pavement.
      I suspect the programming was never dialed in for 3 tires without grip and only 1 tire in the front with grip. Thankfully, that's an easy over the air update fix away if Tesla tasks their engineers to fix it.

    • @bohicajohnson7203
      @bohicajohnson7203 3 года назад +3

      @@uberragen2181 Already done!

    • @tomasgoes
      @tomasgoes 3 года назад +6

      Think it is an issue of weight distribution.
      Three wheels off it just didn't have enough weight on it to find enough purchase, no matter the torque.

    • @EricLS
      @EricLS 2 года назад +1

      I think it was, it just weighs too much and the weight is rear biased and there's not a ton of travel in the suspension, so it just lost traction, I think you're right.

  • @matthewng1666
    @matthewng1666 3 года назад +8

    I rode my new model Y in the snow for the first time yesterday. It drove very secure and safe. I waas able to even conquer some minor moutains plowed up to the side while trying to get street parking.
    What timing to see this video!

    • @whattheschmidt
      @whattheschmidt 3 года назад +1

      Mine also did very well, better than the other cars on the road a few days ago. Still need a big snow storm to see how it handles that. I did put winter tires on my car.

  • @lppuckster1298
    @lppuckster1298 3 года назад +66

    Ok Tommy. If you’re plugging Keeps, we need to see a time lapse for the next 10 years. One pick a week from here on out please!

    • @zuhermarwan6513
      @zuhermarwan6513 3 года назад

      He doesn’t have hair loss tho

    • @bigsho5218
      @bigsho5218 3 года назад

      @@zuhermarwan6513 yeah now thanks to KEEPS 😂🤣😂

  • @volvo09
    @volvo09 3 года назад +87

    Love your roller tests!

    • @wettenFTW
      @wettenFTW 3 года назад +3

      @Camaro 68 sure, but it shows more or less how the AWD system works and that's the point of the slip test :)

    • @snowrocket
      @snowrocket 3 года назад

      @Camaro 68 It won't act a bit different from this on ice.

    • @eric-ik7kv
      @eric-ik7kv 3 года назад +2

      @Camaro 68 the test is not supposed to be 100% real world but give an approximate conditions. If it fails this it’s probably not going to do better real world in less ideal conditions.

    • @eriknephrongfr8847
      @eriknephrongfr8847 3 года назад

      @@eric-ik7kv No objection to the ‘c’ when you give such excellent, well-reasoned takes.

    • @snowrocket
      @snowrocket 3 года назад

      @Camaro 68 You're welcome.

  • @yolo_burrito
    @yolo_burrito 3 года назад +25

    I can’t wait for the quad motor Rivian test.

  • @lifeisfuneh
    @lifeisfuneh 3 года назад +49

    This reminds me of the Tesla 3 version test and the backing up back to the garage fiasco ...😉

    • @604h22a
      @604h22a 3 года назад

      That’s one episode tommy would like to forget

    • @VibhorWase
      @VibhorWase 3 года назад +1

      Maybe that's why this time he's parallel?!

  • @meadowsmydog
    @meadowsmydog 3 года назад +30

    Thanks for telling me that was an SUV. Looks like a 4 door hatchback sedan to me!

    • @vadimvandendonk8879
      @vadimvandendonk8879 3 года назад +5

      The term SUV is used very loosely these days, it basically lost all meaning.

    • @alittlebitintellectual7361
      @alittlebitintellectual7361 3 года назад +4

      Its a crossover suv.
      Half suv half sedan.
      Basically the only reason they call it a crossover suv because of the giant hatch

    • @dvader3263
      @dvader3263 Год назад

      It's sporty. It offers a lot of utility. It's a vehicle.
      It has a large rear hatch, great cargo capacity, small front trunk and moderate towing capability. You can install a lift kit and taller tires and take it off road.
      What makes an SUV? A frame? Bad gas mileage? Bad aerodynamics? Stiff ride? Solid rear axel? Old tech? Burns fossil fuel?
      Two box stying? Visits gas stations once or twice a week?
      Ok. Just call it a Model Y.
      Crossover, wagon, hatch, whatever.
      The crap people focus on.
      The Model S is is a hatchback sedan. That's a lot different than the Model Y.
      The Model 3 is a proper sedan with a trunk lid.
      The Model Y is over 7 inches taller than the Model 3 and is a bit wider and longer also.
      It's not a small vehicle.
      Gotta learn about vehicles.

    • @Tesla.tricks
      @Tesla.tricks 26 дней назад

      It’s an suv like all other hundreds of suvs out there from Japan /korea and now China .
      Nothing new why r u surprised.
      Even Porsche suvs are the same proportions and height .. not sure what ur comparing it to.
      The next level up is of course Toyota / Land Rover / ford proper truck chassis which resembles nothing like suv or “cute Ute”

  • @ffsolutions9442
    @ffsolutions9442 3 года назад +1

    Loving those, guys! Keep them coming!
    Also looking for more winter snowy mountain trails! ⛄️

  • @ychilds99
    @ychilds99 3 года назад

    Subscribed! Thank you for performing this test on various vehicles.

  • @hereigoagain5050
    @hereigoagain5050 3 года назад +34

    Love the slip test because, you know, science, experiments, data, uniform conditions, etc. But, where is the league table?

  • @timyti88
    @timyti88 3 года назад +24

    I love how you guys do these tests. It would be cool if you rank and rate vehicles by class etc for these tests! Where does this Model Y land when compared to other cars?

    • @copperkeyracing6167
      @copperkeyracing6167 5 месяцев назад

      The other cars don't get stuck. The model Y does.

    • @LuizHartkopf
      @LuizHartkopf 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@copperkeyracing6167a lot of other cars do lol the Camry for example got stuck in the 3 wheel test when just the 1 rear wheel had traction.

  • @holthegaming7348
    @holthegaming7348 3 года назад +17

    Keep in mind that the model 3 and y only use the rear motor because of its efficiency. The front motor is only in use when you floor it or lose traction on the rear wheels.

    • @raddaks2039
      @raddaks2039 3 года назад +7

      Also of note is that the Performance model allows you to set it to track mode and adjust how much power goes to front and back (defaults to about 80% rear). If you're actually stuck in the back, you can set it to 80%+ front to compensate.

    • @holthegaming7348
      @holthegaming7348 3 года назад +1

      @@raddaks2039 True

  • @4x4larry
    @4x4larry 3 года назад +40

    When are we gonna get a 4wheel slip test?
    Lol

    • @JonBecker81
      @JonBecker81 3 года назад +3

      They’ll be able to test that when cars come with an auxiliary jet engine attached to them. 😂

    • @jamesbeaman6337
      @jamesbeaman6337 3 года назад

      @@JonBecker81 Or three axles.

  • @willp942
    @willp942 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for oiling the rollers!

  • @maryhadda8420
    @maryhadda8420 2 года назад +1

    Nice to see a controlled and quantifiable test.

  • @JamesBond-qv2ht
    @JamesBond-qv2ht 3 года назад

    Interesting test. I haven’t seen this done before. Thank you.

  • @mikemcintosh9933
    @mikemcintosh9933 3 года назад

    Thank you so much for your content and creativity

  • @06goatm6
    @06goatm6 3 года назад

    Really liked this video. Would love to see this test on pickups from the big manufacturers

  • @victorvandyke9898
    @victorvandyke9898 3 года назад

    Great information. Just had our first snow storm here in PA. Will test my 2021 Model Y soon I guess.

  • @evilpcprogrammer
    @evilpcprogrammer 3 года назад +6

    My X is a beast in the snow so I was surprised to see the last test go so bad.
    Just curious if it felt like the front brakes were grabbing at all on the last test? The way it is all software driven, I wouldn't be surprised if an update gets pushed in the future to fix the last test.

    • @BlakeLinton
      @BlakeLinton 3 года назад +1

      The X and S have dynamic air suspension. Maybe that would enable them to ace the last test by improving that one wheel's contact with the ground?

  • @gwestrsf
    @gwestrsf 3 года назад +6

    By default, a Model Y drives on the rear motor at low speed (permanent magnet motor). Only if you call up lots of power will the front motor engage (induction motor). It's the opposite on Model S/X, with the front wheels leading.

    • @maryhadda8420
      @maryhadda8420 2 года назад

      How do we know that?

    • @gwestrsf
      @gwestrsf 2 года назад +2

      @@maryhadda8420 because that's how these motors work, mechanically. PMSRM can't disengage. Always has to be on. Induction can disengage.

  • @RANDsreviews
    @RANDsreviews 3 года назад

    Keep these tests up! I enjoyed this interesting content that isn’t out there. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

  • @johnreese3762
    @johnreese3762 4 месяца назад

    Good, fair test, thanks!!

  • @dathyr1
    @dathyr1 Год назад

    Thanks for the video. I wanted to get an idea how the AWD operates on a Tesla Y and your video tests give me kind of how well the vehicle does. Real test is out in the real winter weather living in Illinois.
    I don't have a Tesla or any electric vehicle right now, but watching all of the videos I can on the Model Y.
    Thank you. Take care.

  • @Hjemmevet
    @Hjemmevet 5 месяцев назад

    Fantastic review and video. Thank you 🙏👍

  • @fredsansoucie644
    @fredsansoucie644 3 года назад +5

    They should put an option on the screen that basically shows the entire driveline and you can tell it which brakes to pulse, so you can send power to certain wheels. Any way to tell it which wheels do and done have traction

    • @boost1728
      @boost1728 5 месяцев назад

      You can’t manually tell it which to brake or power, but it does have sensors to tell itself which to brake and power

  • @tonyle7311
    @tonyle7311 3 года назад +5

    Hope to see you do roller test on 21” Toyota Sienna AWD

  • @lllateralus
    @lllateralus 3 года назад +4

    Good test, but in the last one we were unable to see (due to camera placement) what the left front tire was doing. IF the left front was actually spinning on the cold pavement, it’s a tire/traction failure.. not an AWD power transfer failure. Huge difference and very relevant.

    • @brucec954
      @brucec954 3 года назад +1

      Also might be due to limited suspension travel so not much weight on the active tire?

    • @lllateralus
      @lllateralus 3 года назад +1

      Very possible, but we really needed to see what that tire was doing. If it was stationary, then it’s a total fail on the all-wheel-drive system’s ability to transfer power. If it was spinning, then it was a traction failure exacerbated by limited suspension travel.

  • @francisgalati8725
    @francisgalati8725 4 месяца назад +1

    Excellent review 😊 👍

  • @markkapzynski123
    @markkapzynski123 3 года назад +1

    How do you think the Model Y did in this test compared to the same test you did on your Model 3. I was convinced to buy a Model 3 LR Dual-Motor after seeing your similar test and wish I didn't have to sell it. I have the Model Y Performance now which doesn't have the same range as the M3 and those stock low profile tires are scary for long road trips in the winter. There are many trips I take where there is no cell coverage in case I get a flat. Like you, I am planning on replacing the stock 21" wheels with Martian Wheels and was wondering if you saw a reduction in ground clearance with your Michelin tires? What offset did you order for your 19" wheels and what tire size? I was thinking of 255/45R19 on all wheels. I lived in Colorado Springs for over ten years and miss the scenery.

  • @tristanskylark
    @tristanskylark 3 года назад +6

    8:35 you should have tried to summon it to see what it does

  • @annawei4301
    @annawei4301 3 года назад +1

    You are testing the Performance MY.
    I have the LR MY, drove it first time this past week in NJ in the snow storm. It was stable, though I did fish tail a couple of times over 35 mph.
    Takes some getting used to, had a AWD R350 in the past & with that weight, that was more stable than the MY. Overall, it was fine for regular winter driving. 😊😍😮

  • @ThoughtfulAl
    @ThoughtfulAl 3 года назад

    Very good indeed. I had not watched any TFL vids for the past year because of the deliberate viral aspect but this was straight forward honest stuff, nice.

  • @motofan16
    @motofan16 3 года назад +16

    Go to track mode, you’ll be able to change it to 100% front or rear drive. Could be interesting to watch.

    • @stephen-boddy
      @stephen-boddy 3 года назад +12

      Unless something changed recently, track mode is not available on the Y. Only on the 3. Musk did respond to a tweet where someone asked for it, so it may be in the pipeline.

    • @Stefan_Dahn
      @Stefan_Dahn 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@stephen-boddy2023: Now track mode is available.

  • @J.W.W.
    @J.W.W. 3 года назад +3

    Looking forward to this video! After being surprised at how well the Camry did, this will be fun to watch also

    • @user-gx2bs1vq7w
      @user-gx2bs1vq7w 3 года назад +4

      Camry did better.

    • @starshipdriver8536
      @starshipdriver8536 3 года назад +3

      @@user-gx2bs1vq7w ruclips.net/video/w7e-0bZ9AV4/видео.html
      Camry didn’t pass all the tests.

    • @snowrocket
      @snowrocket 3 года назад +2

      Looking at the Camry footage shown here, I wasn't impressed. Way too much wheelspin before it came off the rollers.

  • @mandyfenter1151
    @mandyfenter1151 5 месяцев назад

    Can you please share the rims and tires that you use for winter driving?

  • @spartanchirho
    @spartanchirho 3 года назад

    Thanks for oiling up the rollers.

  • @justinjja2
    @justinjja2 5 месяцев назад

    Was that a performance or regular awd?
    Needs a softer suspension trying to touch the ground lower than the other 3 wheels.

  • @dustinbennie1813
    @dustinbennie1813 5 месяцев назад +1

    The factory rear caliper covers to make them LOOK bigger should be all you need to know about Tesla.

  • @TMS5100
    @TMS5100 3 года назад +45

    How about a subaru STI on the TFL slip test?

    • @silasbelcher3788
      @silasbelcher3788 3 года назад +2

      Subaru isn't the biggest fan of TFL... so unless a viewer in the Colorado area has one (not that unlikely, really) they can borrow, they would have to buy one, most likely.

    • @sashoxxx
      @sashoxxx 3 года назад +5

      @@silasbelcher3788 Or just rent one for 25 bucks
      edt: Oh wait, he said an STI. $50 then

    • @InSaN3ViSioN
      @InSaN3ViSioN 3 года назад

      That burns gas so nah

  • @larrywu9270
    @larrywu9270 3 года назад

    Not sure if anyone mentioned it but I know if you are not at full throttle or above a certain throttle position... only the rear motor is used. Also same when you are driving at slow speeds. Which explains why when you put the rollers on the front wheels it doesn’t do much vs the rear wheels.

  • @arthurwagar6224
    @arthurwagar6224 3 года назад

    Great system. Thanks.

  • @AverageReviewsYT
    @AverageReviewsYT 3 года назад +1

    Now this.. This is what Iv been wanting to see

  • @roydelpozo4816
    @roydelpozo4816 3 года назад

    Tommy continues to get better ! Good job! no overuse of the British brilliant. On top of this you are getting very natural behind the camera. Last personal note is i love it when you see your dad and actually call him dad instead of Roman. Good son and good reviewer!

  • @TamasVarga-VatartPhoto
    @TamasVarga-VatartPhoto 5 месяцев назад

    Very good test. Simple and clear. Please repeat it with the latest model and software. Thanks

  • @RealMrNails
    @RealMrNails 3 года назад

    Good video. You know LR has been doing that traction mgmt in a glorious fashion since at least the Disco II

  • @jonathanp.5802
    @jonathanp.5802 3 года назад

    Can these be bought/rented from anywhere so that people can test if there awd is working?

  • @HettBret
    @HettBret 3 года назад +2

    Have you done one of these with the new Venza?

  • @Parker-di7ef
    @Parker-di7ef 3 года назад +617

    Elon will see this video and issue a software update so it’ll be able to do the roller test even better!

    • @RichardHurt
      @RichardHurt 3 года назад +75

      Yes, I think one of the most valuable aspects of owning a Tesla is the fact that this type of thing can be corrected after purchase. With any other vehicle you would have to wait for the next model year to get this type of improvement, or at least make a visit to your local dealer. With Tesla, your vehicle just downloads the latest update and the problem is fixed.

    • @masonfox9070
      @masonfox9070 3 года назад +23

      This was my exact thought. Most other vehicles, you would be stuck with the performance they came with, but with a tesla you might get better performance in this situation in the following winter. Overall still pretty impressive out of the box.

    • @WilbertIsRandom
      @WilbertIsRandom 3 года назад +10

      I'm waiting for his tweet about this video for a future update. Does he know about this video yet?

    • @babochee
      @babochee 3 года назад +9

      @@masonfox9070 All vehicles made in the last 40 years can get updates ya derp. Just not over the air.

    • @babochee
      @babochee 3 года назад +24

      @@RichardHurt this is a lie and misleading. Any vehicle with an ECU can have this kind of issue correct. The engine and transmission can be reprogrammed. Your ignorance isn't doing anyone any good

  • @jascha1795
    @jascha1795 3 года назад

    I would be interested in how it would turn out if you do exactly the same with smart summom.

  • @tomflaushe
    @tomflaushe 3 года назад +6

    Great video. Clearly more rear wheel drive than front but perhaps Tesla will see this and issue an ‘over the air software update’ to help with this potential issue. I think it would be cool if the Tesla computer would interact with the amount of information it has over the air, like weather and GPS location including cameras on the car to to recognise and adjust the cars set up as a custom setting (within safety reasons) to deal with the current real time terrain the car finds itself in at any given time.
    Either way, more potential tools at its disposal for a standard well rounded car.

    • @AlexanderJew
      @AlexanderJew 5 месяцев назад

      I would love to see this test again today to see if anything has changed

    • @theglassarrow_
      @theglassarrow_ 5 месяцев назад

      Normally the traction control on cars handle this info just without using air temps. It detects what wheel is spinning, directs power to a wheel that is getting traction.

  • @themogget8808
    @themogget8808 Месяц назад

    Do you have experience with Wavetrac diffs? I wonder if a front wavetrac would help the Tesla with that last test.

  • @masonhinrichs9865
    @masonhinrichs9865 3 года назад

    I love The Fast Lane Car guys!!!

  • @JamesLarson47
    @JamesLarson47 3 года назад +10

    pretty damn good considering that it's an open differential instead of LSD

  • @kurtpenner2362
    @kurtpenner2362 3 года назад +3

    Tommy, thanks for this vid. I am a bit disappointed in the last test with the single front wheel up. Wouldn't a subaru just divert power to the one front wheel and easily pull forward? Not sure why Tesla can't ace this one. Also, can you guys mod your Y with the lift kit from Mountain Pass? That would get some extra ground clearance for dirt and snow.

    • @gnosis7662
      @gnosis7662 8 месяцев назад

      Could probably be fixed with a simply software update. Someone needs to notify Tesla about this test.

  • @siemenscs
    @siemenscs 3 года назад +1

    On another video i saw that power ratio between front and rear wheels can be adjusted from the main display. I wonder if it was set to 50/50 during this test.

    • @hgodtx
      @hgodtx 6 месяцев назад

      Possibly on a model X or S, but it's not on my Y

  • @brianashba1972
    @brianashba1972 3 года назад +1

    Where did you get those rims from

  • @kareem2262
    @kareem2262 3 года назад +3

    Great info Tommy, should do the same for Audi and Subaru

    • @sking2173
      @sking2173 3 года назад +1

      Audi’s system is fanatic using Torsen diffs !!

  • @LightStylePro
    @LightStylePro 3 года назад

    TFL: Good test set-up and demonstration of more work to go on the Model-Y. When your factory and test track are in Fremont, CA it's difficult to fully test the AWD system. Your simple roller test an be repeated anywhere! I'll assume that the Model-Y dual-motor AWD is "capable" of passing your TFL Ultimate 3-Wheel Slip Test once Telsa engineers work on the problem and provide an over-the-air software update to your vehicle. PLEASE repeat this test when such an update occurs. Hopefully you can put a link into this video for your Part-II, post-update test. Thanks! Good job!

  • @WasabiPWRD
    @WasabiPWRD Год назад

    I currently own a Subaru outback. I want to get a model y performance. We like to go to the mountains and go snowboarding all the time. How would you compare Tesla model y awd to the Subaru outback awd?? Thanks!

  • @NTO4GPredator
    @NTO4GPredator 3 года назад +1

    Cant wait for this test with the cybertruck

  • @User888User
    @User888User 3 года назад

    Great video

  • @vipsk8er7794
    @vipsk8er7794 5 месяцев назад

    Was the vehicle put in slip start mode? Specifically a mode for starting in low traction areas. Very different traction control and abs logic with that enabled

  • @freerider604
    @freerider604 3 года назад +1

    Could you please do the Kia K5 AWD roller test? Thx 🙏

  • @JCHerrera007
    @JCHerrera007 3 года назад

    Great Video

  • @trinilgan
    @trinilgan 3 года назад +1

    would be interesting to see the wheel with grip at the 3 WST

  • @gogogoducks
    @gogogoducks 3 года назад +1

    Always loved your roller tests! I've been looking forward to this Model Y test. Thank you!

  • @silverdc5
    @silverdc5 3 года назад

    Can you share you winter wheel set up?

  • @Splinky9588
    @Splinky9588 3 года назад

    Buddy of mine has a Model 3 Performance and I'm sure he said at some point that he's able to adjust front/rear bias for power delivery. Does the Model Y not have this? It looks very clearly rear biased.

  • @tobyray8700
    @tobyray8700 3 года назад

    Thanks Tommy !

  • @mujjuman
    @mujjuman 7 месяцев назад

    I always wondered about this and came across this video... I have a M3P and it didnt do too well in snow and ice.

  • @mas5621
    @mas5621 3 года назад +1

    Is third time the charm ?
    Did the THIRD defender break yet ? Or what's going on
    Update pls

  • @DimitriSLouis
    @DimitriSLouis 3 года назад +3

    9:03 [sounding disappointed and somewhat breathless] "Well we did eventually get off but that was a difficult task."

  • @soiceyboy33
    @soiceyboy33 3 года назад +3

    Please do a roller test with a Mitsubishi Outlander GT! I swear they have one of the best AWD systems in the business lifted right off the EVO. I’d like to see how the S-AWC system performs here. Dollar for dollar, it’s the cheapest/ best AWD on the market. You’d have to spring for an Audi (Quattro) system to get anything comparable

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers 3 года назад

      AWC and S-AWC systems in Outlander has nothing in common with the one from Evo. Literally nothing except "S-AWC" name.

    • @soiceyboy33
      @soiceyboy33 3 года назад

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers That’s not true....do your research. I did, and that’s why I bought one. The S-AWC system on the Outlander GT has an Active Center Differential (ACD), which sends nearly 100 percent of available torque to the front axle under normal conditions, but can divert as much as half of the available torque to the rear axle for a 50/50 split. It also has Super Active Yaw Control (S-AYC), a torque-vectoring system lifted from the EVO that uses an active differential to send up to 70 percent of torque available on an axle to either the left or right wheel to enhance handling. The only difference between the EVO and Outlander is the EVO has S-AYC on both the front and rear axles to improve performance, while the Outlander is front axle only. In fact, the Outlander GT is the only vehicle in its class on the market today that features an active front differential (AFD). DO YOUR RESEARCH. I can tell you from experience, it’s one of the best and has never disappointed me. Last winter, we had 2ft of snow and Mercedes, BMW, Nissan, Toyota SUVs were abandoned all over the road while my Outlander drove through it like it was butter.
      Here’s the link to more info if you need it www.mitsubishi-motors.ca/en/sawc/

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers 3 года назад

      @@soiceyboy33 Evo has active center differential, helical front differential (torsen type) and overspeeding rear differential. Outlander doesn't have ANY of these. Actually it doesn't even have center differential at all, just a clutch-pack. It is completely different system. Of course it has AFD which is great but it has nothing in common with Evo. Both cars use S-AWC and AYC names but technically they are not even similar. In roller tests GT gets the same result as standard Outlander. Both are doing much better than Evo, which is not designed for that.
      Read more than marketing stuff, check what's underneath the cars. I had a few Mitsubishi cars, I tested a lot of them on rollers, I know what I am talking about.

  • @grantpainter
    @grantpainter 3 года назад

    In snowy conditions, like going down a road covered in snow for example, how would a Tesla do when compared to a 4WD vehicle?

  • @Dr-Asim
    @Dr-Asim 3 года назад

    Should have marked the slipping tire to see how many rotations before tc system engages.

  • @rydingwithryan493
    @rydingwithryan493 3 года назад +7

    Would be interesting to test the different awd systems provided by suburu because not all suburu awds are created equal.

    • @cascivic
      @cascivic 3 года назад

      Would be great but stupid Subaru still won't give them press cars.... 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

    • @rydingwithryan493
      @rydingwithryan493 3 года назад +1

      @@cascivic can someone explain the backstory on why they won’t provide tfl with vehicles.

    • @cascivic
      @cascivic 3 года назад +1

      They took an outback I think up there old proving Hill for suvs and the CVT sucked etc and they may of dented something. I think Subaru came with a tow truck and like took it without telling them and basically never talked to them again. This is probably 7 years ago.

    • @WilbertIsRandom
      @WilbertIsRandom 3 года назад

      @@cascivic The Subaru CVT is much better now I've heard. We have one with no CVT issues.

  • @Basta147
    @Basta147 3 года назад

    nice test

  • @stephaneruel9665
    @stephaneruel9665 3 года назад +16

    The rear wheel slip test confirms my experience. I really don't like the way my Y behaves in the snow. It drives like a RWD car and constantly oversteers as it takes too long for the front wheels to "wake up". I hope they give us control over how the power is distributed in the future. It would be great to be able to better balance it.

    • @nihongobenkyoshimasu3190
      @nihongobenkyoshimasu3190 3 года назад +2

      There is a video from Bjørn Nyland driving on a snowy road and making similar comments for the Model 3.

    • @integralhighspeedusb
      @integralhighspeedusb 3 года назад

      No track mode for the Y?

    • @stephaneruel9665
      @stephaneruel9665 3 года назад

      @@integralhighspeedusb Only on the performance one I think. My car doesn't have it.

    • @snowrocket
      @snowrocket 3 года назад +2

      These types of oversights continue to prove to me that Tesla is still being run by tech geeks and not car and truck enthusiasts. It should be VERY easy (software update?) to give the driver more front-to-rear torque split control. The EVO and STi have a knob allowing some amount of driver selection. Tesla SHOULD also be able to give you the ability to make a series of selections and save it as a personal Mode. Even going up hill versus down hill, you might want torque applied differently then front-to-rear.

    • @johnmadsen37
      @johnmadsen37 3 года назад

      snowrocket maybe when it’s all done in Texas they’ll have more snow to rest it on. Elon will eventually hear about this video and watch it - yes, this is totally a software update.

  • @GeorgiGeorgiev-ne9ps
    @GeorgiGeorgiev-ne9ps 3 года назад

    How do we get those rollers? 'Been looking for years :/

  • @Meatball2022
    @Meatball2022 6 месяцев назад +1

    Wish you put the camera on the ground wheel for final test. Seemed to me that ground wheel was slipping also. It was maybe 3 rollers 1 icy

    • @trenton1190
      @trenton1190 5 месяцев назад +1

      Same. The front wheel was likely slipping because the other 3 wheels were 2-3 inches higher, removing the weight from the tire on the ground. If the car had been level it would have made it.

  • @rabeahkarram9689
    @rabeahkarram9689 3 года назад

    I want this test done to all AWD 4WD vehicles please this is the test I love : )

  • @KTMcaptain
    @KTMcaptain 3 года назад +1

    Why not show to tire on the ground? Looks like it doesn't have enough traction to pull that heavy vehicle out of those rollers and just spins allowing the front end to slide.

  • @JonBecker81
    @JonBecker81 3 года назад +33

    Male pattern baldness ➡️ double tap, double tap, double tap

    • @jamespaul2587
      @jamespaul2587 3 года назад

      Yes, I had visions of the "spray on hair", Second City I think ☺️

  • @MrScalman
    @MrScalman 3 года назад +1

    more important question is for how long it can do that spin stop wheels until that system overheats like other cars . everyone can do safe and nice 10 min test of car amazing AWD system and then in real world it overheats and turns off really fast.

  • @phillm156
    @phillm156 5 месяцев назад

    I’ve been using cross climate 2 for 3 yrs now on my 2017 SQ5. They are incredible in all weathers conditions but you should know it is 10% less efficient than my previous set of Michelin pilot AS. Didn’t know that before purchase.

  • @superman60201
    @superman60201 3 года назад

    Does it have a Chicago bump mode?

  • @paosaephan5067
    @paosaephan5067 3 года назад

    Very interesting to see roller slip test on model Y. It shouldn't have too much problem getting out of the rollers since the electric motors have lo of hp and trqe.

  • @daviddenley3512
    @daviddenley3512 3 года назад

    That was very interesting!

  • @michelcote
    @michelcote 3 года назад +2

    I am still deceived that the rear wheels have to slip trough 3/4 turn to activate the front motor. Electronics coud be way better.
    In deep snow and ice, you dig yourself with this.
    I am always getting scared when it does this on my Model 3 Dual Motor.
    Regen and rear bias makes a squirelly (yaw) car on the snow compared to a real awd or fwd.
    Tesla could make a ''Winter traction'' mode that engage and regen both motors even if we lose some efficiency.