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None of you seem to understand how governments work. Europe has been pushing harder then any other country for electrification. So they offer the biggest most attractive rebates. In Canada you get 8000 off the base model 3.
Don't buy the cheap $10-20 outlet. Spend the money and buy a Hubbell 14-50 outlet which is almost $100. They are higher rated so if you are removing the plug daily (using the mobile charger) it will hold up and not be a fire issue. The cheap plugs are meant for something like a dryer or stove, you plug it in once and unless you move the item, they don't get unplugged. This is something that most people don't understand. These outlets carry 30 or more amps. The cheap plugs are not built to stand up to daily removal of the plug and the connectors inside will weaken and that is when a problem can happen. It will not happen on day one, but weeks or months later. Why risk burning down your home over $80-90 extra dollars for a quality plug. May you kill that $200 Tesla charger. If you are smart you can wire your own otherwise, hire an Electrician to do the job.
So I plan on using an outlet that is behind my stove for charging. I looked at the breaker and it appears that the stove outlet is the only one rated for 50amps so I ordered a few things because it is a 10-50 outlet. I first ordered some type of splitter cord that was really heavy duty and capable of carrying the load and I plan on connecting my stove to one end of the splitter and on the other end I was connecting a 3-foot 10-50 to 14-50 power cord adapter and then having the 14-50 head of that sticking out above the stove and behind it a tad on the wall. I was then going to use the plug and attach a 75 foot 14-50 extension cord that’s capable of carrying the load and 6 gauge to go outside to where I park my car and then connect it to a 14-50 adapter which connects to the Tesla mobile charger and chargers the car at 30 miles an hour I believe. I looked up a few videos and have seen others with this setup and I have verified that the outlet does indeed support 50 amps and I also realize that I can only have 1 of them working at a time, either the stove or the car. But my question is can I leave that 10-50 to 14-50 adapter on the wall behind the stove and keep unplugging the 14-50 extension cord and it wouldn’t weaken the connection from the adapter or would this also be a no no and I would need to leave the 75 foot extension cord plugged in 24/7? All are high quality parts by the way. I think the splitter is 90 some dollars and the adapter cord is 30 and the extension cord is 370. Thank you for reading this and hopefully you can give me some feedback about the legitimacy of my setup and the answer to my question! For context I currently live on a Military base and do not have to pay for electricity but also are not able to install any extra outlets or anything since we are technically renting.
Just buy the Tesla Wall Connector and have it hard wired. Tesla mobile charger is not really designed for daily use and only has a 12 month warranty. The wall connector is a great deal at $400 and has a 48 month warranty. Bakelite Hubbell outlets are better than some others but the failures usually come down to the electrician trying to save a few dollars by using aluminum service wire instead of copper conductors. It's not about plugging and unplugging so much as aluminum tends to suffer from thermal expansion under high loads and then arcing occurs. Then smoke and potentially fire. Tesla Wall Connectors require copper conductors to avoid that problem. Hubbell won't save you if your electrician uses aluminum conductors.
There is a 4th option for charging if your dryer plug is close to where you park. Dryer Buddy. Allows you to have two plugs instead of one. No house modification required. I'm getting a 25-27 miles per hour charge.
@@Buggabones I've done that several times and created a 10-30 to 14-50 adapter cable with a ground that connects to a standard 5-15 outlet. Created a few extension cables as well and bam! In case of emergencies, I got a cable that can combine two 5-15 outlets and 2 low gauge extension cables for 240v 12a charging. This has been good for almost all situations.
My electrician told me the price of metals and materials has gone up since 2020. Most expensive piece being the power cord from the breaker box to the Tesla wall charger. That distance impacts the cost of installation for sure.
Just so you know. Copper has tripled in price in the last 2 years. A 50' roll of 6/2 copper Romex is $185. Breakers and other equipment is also 2-3x higher. It's not electricians ripping you off, it's materials going through the roof.
Wow, glad my best friend is an electrician and master plumber. Got my home charger installed for free. And with the rebate on the EVSE from Alabama Power, the entire cost of equipment and install for my home was $150.
My dude, I'm seriously considering buying a model Y. Today (4/19/23) Tesla dropped the performance model Y's price to 54K and you get $7500 federal tax credit. Plus in your in NJ there is no tax at all and you'll get 4k tax credit from the state
Ride quality is a similar myth to the inferior quality and check lists new owners bring, because they see RUclipsrs exaggerate things. Tesla’s are built well, and tech with OTA (SOTA and FOTA) is industry leading. The ride quality of the MYP is much better than my 21 Acura RDX Aspec with 20” wheels. The MYP is so much smoother and supple. The acceleration of the MYP is intoxicating - blows the doors off most vehicles on the road from 0-60.
Exactly. Very subjective; depends on a driver’s previous cars, environment (road quality in their area). Bottom line: EV tires are thicker, harder rubber to handle the weight of the battery pack. One easy hack - drop a lb or 2 in tire pressure. Of course that will lead to decreased range, tire wear.
When I had my solar and battery system installed, knowing I would eventually need this outlet I pre bought all the materials for the Install and since they were replacing my breaker box the electrician actually did the hookup for free, I got lucky to have such a great electrician... Of course I gave him a nice tip which was way less than it would have cost to have someone else do this later....
Exactly. Without context it’s 1 data point. Friend finally got her Y - after a week I asked her what she thought. She said she was getting nauseous. I was thinking some glue or something. A few days later another friend told me / she’s a lead foot and was constantly launching! Got in an accident less than a month later…
The first thing I did when taking delivery of my Performance Model Y was change the tire configuration. I put the rear tires 275’s on the front. I replaced the rear tires with 295’s. Better ride and handling quality with more protection from pot holes and curb rash. Range impact was minimal if any. Great video.
Holding onto the hope of a battery that can do "400 miles" because lets face it, it won't ACTUALLY be 400, but at least then it will actually get above 300 miles of range.
i had rented long range and performance for 3 days with only 48 hours in between. i drove german autobahn from north to south and back again. and i felt like the performance was smoother than the long range. weird enough
Nashville roads should be the standard for evaluating ride quality. This was the video I needed to decide between a YP and a YL. Thank you from a regular I-24 and 440 driver.
Disagree. Head north where roads get destroyed by the winter. So instead of driving on pool table smooth roads possible in the south, you get to jump over frost heaves, pot holes and the constant road construction in the non-winter months to fix all the damage.
I will test drive the car before ordering it. I test drove a 2019 S and Y. The ride quality was, as you can imagine, completely different. The S was smooth while the Y was very rough. I have heard they made improvements to the ride quality of the Y but will definitely have to test for myself. Also, didn't realize that aftermarket air suspension was an option here.
The Model S is a way more expensive car too, so it should have a better ride quality. The S and X both have air suspension and are in a different class of vehicle than the 3 and Y.
@Dan - Like I mentioned. I took my car to the shop and got the Y as a loaner. I decided to write my post based on this and other videos giving praise to the model Y on their improved ride quality which after having driven one for weeks, and tested a previous model, I disagree. The "improvement" in ride quality, which again, is what many of the videos I have seen are highlighting, are not what some folks are claiming it to be. I test drove a Hyundai Santa Cruz that had a much better ride quality. I own a Tesla but call it as I see it.
Its totally improved with new suspensions on all models! Model S is the best Tesla car for sure, but its like twice the price too, if you have the money, S is the way to go! IF not, get model Y
I think iv seen you around Nash before, not sure how many red/white MYP are in our area but I saw this one recently. Might have been you! My blue/black M3P will be here next month, might see me around town. I feel like the people that complain about these cars have grown up riding in the back seat of daddies 150k benz. I test drove M3P, M3LR, and M3 on Turo before deciding and they all felt extremely comfortable and smooth. But iv owned 20-30k cars my entire life so ofc its going to be super comfy for me!
I have the identical vehicle as this and it is ridiculously funny how these negative rumours get around. This car drives me exactly like my BMW x5 competition 👍
The model Y seat kill my hips as a driver. I weight 160, 5’7. Can’t find any good seat posture😢 My old Nissan Maxima beat those Teslas seat. MYLR 2022, Austin version. Anyone have the same problem?
So I got a newer model Y as a loaner while my vehicle was in for service. I still feel the suspension or ride quality is too rough/firm. I can see that with the new seats, the ride feels a bit smoother but I find that it is only a slight improvement and it's mainly due to the seats and not to the suspension itself. It does feel smoother on roads that are a lot less bumpy (especially in comfort mode), and I was pleasantly surprised with the responsiveness in terms of handling. I thought it was much improved. However, for me, when I think of overall ride quality, my main concern is the impact to my back and how it handles rough patches of road and it is still too rough for my taste, even though it is fun to drive, especially on smoother road surfaces. Maybe Tesla can make the air suspension optional for those who want it and are able and willing to pay for it.
Just buy a Model S or X then. An air suspension setup for the 3 and Y would significantly increase their price points. They were not designed to have a premium ride quality.
@Dan - I have the Plaid. I agree the price point would go up, disagree with how significant, but still think they could make it available. Pretty sure they would find it a welcome surprise the number of folks willing to spend more for a "premium ride quality" at a price point below the X or S.
@@efrainramos1021 I hear you but that just defeats the point as to why they even made the Model 3 and Y. No other vehicles in the same class, have an air suspension. If people constantly want to add things that increase the cost of the 3 and Y, then again I say just buy an S or X.
@@Resist4 - I understand your point but disagree. Isn't Tesla about being more creative and different? Ahead of others in terms of implementation? If I was a betting man, I'd wager quite a few folks would pay more for the air suspension on the models 3 and Y. But I agree that the decision not to flood have to do with keeping the price point down
@@efrainramos1021 Just remember that every time new options are added it makes the manufacturing process more difficult and expensive. I personally wish each model came only one way, simple is better.
My myp rides perfectly the way it is. My glk350 rides just as rough and I have no problem with it. Putting softer suspension will ruin the car ability to handle especially with that kind of power.
I ordered a Cybertruck, but the model Y price has come down so much I was thinking of getting a performance Y and installing 19" wheels. thanks for sharing your observations regarding the ride quality.
Never make a prediction that prices will only go up as competition is just going to increase every year. You bought at a time when prices were at peak . Prices now have come down by $15000 since you bought
I agree with the first part. But I didn’t buy at the peak. I bought this red MYP at $64k (before options) and the white MYLR at $49k (before options). MYP went up to $69k and MYLR up to $65k and then cut down by $13k. Now they’ve gone back up by $1.5k-$2k I think
If you need all the range, get the LR. I made a video comparing the LR to the P: ruclips.net/video/RYrzf7eMlgY/видео.html Also, the white seats are very easy to clean in my experience. I also made a video on how to clean them: ruclips.net/video/YbnQR2WFhT4/видео.html
This was a great video. Thanks for the insightful information. Elon is Elon and the pricing dropped significantly so I purchased and subsequently here watching. Thanks again!
That was 1 thing he should had skipped - macroeconomics will drive prices. Tesla margins are so much higher than the legacy car makers Elon can shift prices quite a bit. And he’s not shy about doing it. Chinese people (and some Americans) got grumpy - but it’s just business. Teslas are so much better than ICE - and other EVs - no one should grind over a few thousand bucks.
You're better off getting the standard rwd model Y. You get the same realistic range as the performance as long as you pick 18" wheels. These cars are made for ahort distance commute only. If you're looking to use for rideshare, opt for a hybrid or a high mpg car. Rideshare insurance for these cars are insanely too high. You were warned.
That is a nice looking car right there, I like it better than the 3. I live in a rural area and don't have any fast charging around that I'm aware of, but I know the prices have come down significantly and I wouldn't mind having one of those suckers.
I’d get a new one. Right now you can get $1k off with a referral link and $7,500 off from the tax credit. Plus there are some new inventory discounts between 3k-5k. Use my link to save: ts.la/mattin15980
I can't imagine paying that much for the car and the interior does not standout. It is just too much to have to do or not do the other things you mentioned in the video. I'm no Tesla fanboy, but I have said if I had to buy electric right now it would be a Tesla since they are so far ahead of everyone else in the EV space or looking to make their mark there. When I looked over my buddy's in person, it was very underwhelming. I thought I was going to be impressed like "wow this is a Tesla." That did not happen. I know there are other factors that make the car the price it is, but I can't see it being worth it to me. Just my little two cents that aren't worth one. 🙂
Nice job. Driving style is the same for ICE when discussing range. Another charging option: your employer. Renter - so no home options - I could only get a Model 3 because my employer installed L2 ChargePoint chargers. So talk to your fellow EV drivers at work - explain the benefits of offering charging at work. As EVs proliferate, it could be help the employers attract talent.
Im normally a bad passenger so I get car sick as a passenger, that’s why I try to drive most of the time however when I tested driven the model Y I got car sick in like 10 to 15 min . I’m not sure why but guessing because of the way it slows down when let go of the acceleration pedal how ever I was told I’ll get used to it in about a week furthermore for the price now 53xxx i ordered mine now. 16k less from top price in the pass.
Sounds like the first electrician quote was for a new breaker panel, my fist quote was almost exactly the same, but that was due to the brand of breaker panel I had. Also got my 240 volt outlets installed for $600 form a different electrician.
Thnx for the video!!! Just subscribed….. I grew up in Nashville….now living in Miami!! I think I was lucky when i ordered my grey LRMY in oct 2021….. i was just trying to get things together….so i would be ready -i do regret that i should have ordered 3-6 mos earlier…. I picked up mine in late May & it was beautiful! I agree with just about you’ve said…..you definitely will spend more money after receiving the car….i got my full frontal done along with the window tint for right under $3k.. you are right about when ordering the electrical. Prior to my MY, i drove a fiat 500e for over 4 1/2 yrs…when i was re-doing my electric panel, i added the charger and it cost me an additional $300…..i did order a Tesla charger also…(I haven’t installed it because i still use the Fiat- this i will doing myself…as i am kinda handy & I’m a mechanic!! Love the car!! Its beautiful….& mine has the white seats also! All i can say is WOW!!! Its an IPhone on wheels…..& i love Tech! My biggest regret is.. i don’t like the ride….i wish it was cushier…..seats are great……i just feel the bumps… overall……i would buy the exact same car again…..& again! Good luck !
We ordered a gray market Tesla model y performance in Thailand just before Tesla bought a business license at twice the price as we felt, it was worth it. We were lucky we got our money back from that when we saw the business license in the press as we canceled it got our money back and on the first day we ordered a model Y performance. We never been able to test drive a model wide performance in Thailand, so it was quite a surprise that first day when we drove home. 22,000 km later the car has been flawless. Now I don’t get very long range with it or anywhere near as advertised but my wife does when I’m away on business. We were looking at other cars when we happened by a gray market dealer that was selling Teslas, as well as other cars, not commonly imported to Thailand as soon as we test drove the Tesla all other considerations for other cars were gone. We ordered on the first day available here on December 7, 2022 and received our model I performance on May 10, 2023. We had no complaints during delivery. One complaint that came up later was the sound of rain makes when it lands on the rear hatch and the rear quarter panels, exposing the fact that there are very low noise deadening material placed on the body panels exterior. So I fixed that with some dynamite.
Ride quality is very subjective. One thing for sure is if you ever experienced an air suspension ride of luxury cars, you can't undo it, and this makes you feel MY very bumpy. If you haven't, then it may feel you okay or even good. They never understand why some people are concerned about ride quality of M3/MY.
Please stop with this argument. I hate seeing these. People don’t buy a performance model to get better mileage. People buy a performance for its, wait for it… PERFORMANCE. When I drive the car I want to be able to get that smile on my face. If I wanted to save mileage I would have just bought a long range version.
@@MUFCXI Actually you are incorrect because good mileage can still be had with the performance version, with the right tires. In no way does going to 18" tires reduce the performance in any way. And in my opinion they look better than the larger thinner tires. More beefy sidewalls is also more protection against pot hole damage.
IMO it is rough and not very quiet for an EV, when they brag about how little parts they use and how much lighter they are compared to other EV's, this is what happens.
PPF then ceramic coating. I never take my cars to the car wash. I always hand wash them. The car wash’s soaps are bad/low quality and the brushes that touch the car scratch up the paint. Some people do touch less car wash but I don’t do that either
With thr full autopilot option for 15k...can that be added at a later date or is it once you dont get at order you're locked out completely from getting.
Price dropped way down plus the $7500 credit for the LR. Most should have waited. The car prices are way out of line right now even with the latest price drops. I’ll probably place my order this summer or at the end of 2023. Huge savings will remain as the economy struggles.
Interesting that there aren't really any incentive to get wall chargers installed at home in the US. In Sweden you only pay 50% of the cost for the charger and installation. The rest is covered by the state. My Zaptec Go cost me ~USD 750 installed and ready to run at 11 kW (it has a capacity of 22 kW, but my fuse box doesn't.).
Americans were surprised the current Administration (that lives spending tax $$$ and is pushing EVs) didn’t have anything in their big spending bill. Adoption for apartment dwellers will be impossible without a huge increase in charging options. The Tesla $7.5B deal a few days ago is nice - but overnight charging when there’s less demand on the grid is badly needed.
As the economy readjust, prices for all cars will start going down or offer more discounts, the federal and state incentives will remain for this year, and also tesla are a bit overhyped in terms of performance, range and reliability, you buy a tesla for the gimmicks and tech theres really nothing else. Where tesla is better is the whole purchase process for those who are price conscious.
Since these EVs are ALL WHEEL DRIVE , 🚗 dies that mean ALL FOUR TIRES HAVE TO BE REPLACED AT THE SAME TIME? Say you have 15,000 miles on your tires and you have one blow out and has to be replaced. Is it like a gas car in that ALL FOUR TIRES WOULD NEED TO BE REPLACED or is the drive train structured differently? 🤔
@@WestCoastAce27 My understanding is there needs to be significant Treadwell so there would be a difference in the depth of the new vs the old tires. That is can actually cause transmission problems.
There is a ton of misunderstanding about charging. Charging to 100% is fine, you just aren’t supposed to leave the battery sitting in that stage for an extended period and supercharging (due to speed and heat) causes more wear and tear (and slows down considerably past a certain %).
The Y is an impressive car. I used to be a car fanatic. Not so much any more. I’m watching for the Tesla 2 at a $25-$30K price point. I started to buy a 3 back in 2020, but decided against. Ended up buying a Limited Prius Prime that stickered for $34,800, and only paid $26K after Toyota $4500 rebate in NE US, and $4500 Fed tax credit for plug-in of small battery. I average 75 MPG using regular gas, with no range anxiety. I’ll admit when the car is charged for the first 30 miles, it’s a lot faster. I charge it with Toyota supplied cable into 110 outlet, at night daily. It’s also a standard hybrid, so slow or in town traffic runs on hybrid battery, and braking charge’s batteries. I personally think for myself a Tesla daily driver would work for me. I don’t drive that much anymore, and rarely take long trips in a car. I also prefer a smaller car as over 90% of the time, I’m alone in the car… I just can’t justify spending $50-$70K on a car. Some of my friends have Tesla’s, and seem to be happy. I’m just more frugal with my money…..
Any comment on ride quality, without reference to the quality of roads, is just meaningless. If its not an issue, why would Tesla adjust it in 2022 models ??
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3 months later and the price dropped with 12.000 Euro in Europe on the model Y 😀
This guy has lost all credibility 😂
His comment on pricing has aged like fine milk!
And we’re all watching his video to help pay for the $13000 he over paid.
Yup this video didn’t age well lol
None of you seem to understand how governments work. Europe has been pushing harder then any other country for electrification. So they offer the biggest most attractive rebates. In Canada you get 8000 off the base model 3.
Don't buy the cheap $10-20 outlet. Spend the money and buy a Hubbell 14-50 outlet which is almost $100. They are higher rated so if you are removing the plug daily (using the mobile charger) it will hold up and not be a fire issue. The cheap plugs are meant for something like a dryer or stove, you plug it in once and unless you move the item, they don't get unplugged. This is something that most people don't understand. These outlets carry 30 or more amps. The cheap plugs are not built to stand up to daily removal of the plug and the connectors inside will weaken and that is when a problem can happen. It will not happen on day one, but weeks or months later. Why risk burning down your home over $80-90 extra dollars for a quality plug. May you kill that $200 Tesla charger. If you are smart you can wire your own otherwise, hire an Electrician to do the job.
So I plan on using an outlet that is behind my stove for charging. I looked at the breaker and it appears that the stove outlet is the only one rated for 50amps so I ordered a few things because it is a 10-50 outlet. I first ordered some type of splitter cord that was really heavy duty and capable of carrying the load and I plan on connecting my stove to one end of the splitter and on the other end I was connecting a 3-foot 10-50 to 14-50 power cord adapter and then having the 14-50 head of that sticking out above the stove and behind it a tad on the wall. I was then going to use the plug and attach a 75 foot 14-50 extension cord that’s capable of carrying the load and 6 gauge to go outside to where I park my car and then connect it to a 14-50 adapter which connects to the Tesla mobile charger and chargers the car at 30 miles an hour I believe. I looked up a few videos and have seen others with this setup and I have verified that the outlet does indeed support 50 amps and I also realize that I can only have 1 of them working at a time, either the stove or the car.
But my question is can I leave that 10-50 to 14-50 adapter on the wall behind the stove and keep unplugging the 14-50 extension cord and it wouldn’t weaken the connection from the adapter or would this also be a no no and I would need to leave the 75 foot extension cord plugged in 24/7? All are high quality parts by the way. I think the splitter is 90 some dollars and the adapter cord is 30 and the extension cord is 370. Thank you for reading this and hopefully you can give me some feedback about the legitimacy of my setup and the answer to my question!
For context I currently live on a Military base and do not have to pay for electricity but also are not able to install any extra outlets or anything since we are technically renting.
Just buy the Tesla Wall Connector and have it hard wired. Tesla mobile charger is not really designed for daily use and only has a 12 month warranty. The wall connector is a great deal at $400 and has a 48 month warranty. Bakelite Hubbell outlets are better than some others but the failures usually come down to the electrician trying to save a few dollars by using aluminum service wire instead of copper conductors. It's not about plugging and unplugging so much as aluminum tends to suffer from thermal expansion under high loads and then arcing occurs. Then smoke and potentially fire. Tesla Wall Connectors require copper conductors to avoid that problem. Hubbell won't save you if your electrician uses aluminum conductors.
Correct. Read the Tesla 14-50 installation instructions. They call for an industrial 14-50, not a residential. RIF
There is a 4th option for charging if your dryer plug is close to where you park. Dryer Buddy. Allows you to have two plugs instead of one. No house modification required. I'm getting a 25-27 miles per hour charge.
Yeah im gonna use the 10-30 when I visit friends and steal their 240v dryer plug :P
@@Buggabones I've done that several times and created a 10-30 to 14-50 adapter cable with a ground that connects to a standard 5-15 outlet. Created a few extension cables as well and bam!
In case of emergencies, I got a cable that can combine two 5-15 outlets and 2 low gauge extension cables for 240v 12a charging. This has been good for almost all situations.
@@ItsBinhRepaired very clever, cheers 🍻
@@EugeneHaroldKrab thanks :)
Does the mobile charger come with the dryer plug connector?
Also, consider buying used. I bought a used 20000 mile long range M3 with FSD for 40k before prices started getting crazy. Best decision ever
FSD doesn’t carry over with new ownership I don’t believe
@@tonyfrese287 it does. If you sell to auction, or Tesla it doesn't but to third party it does.
My electrician told me the price of metals and materials has gone up since 2020. Most expensive piece being the power cord from the breaker box to the Tesla wall charger. That distance impacts the cost of installation for sure.
Just so you know. Copper has tripled in price in the last 2 years. A 50' roll of 6/2 copper Romex is $185. Breakers and other equipment is also 2-3x higher. It's not electricians ripping you off, it's materials going through the roof.
Yes. But I got a handful of quotes that were outrageous compared to the average quote I got from a bunch others
Wow, glad my best friend is an electrician and master plumber. Got my home charger installed for free. And with the rebate on the EVSE from Alabama Power, the entire cost of equipment and install for my home was $150.
My dude, I'm seriously considering buying a model Y. Today (4/19/23) Tesla dropped the performance model Y's price to 54K and you get $7500 federal tax credit. Plus in your in NJ there is no tax at all and you'll get 4k tax credit from the state
Ride quality is a similar myth to the inferior quality and check lists new owners bring, because they see RUclipsrs exaggerate things. Tesla’s are built well, and tech with OTA (SOTA and FOTA) is industry leading.
The ride quality of the MYP is much better than my 21 Acura RDX Aspec with 20” wheels. The MYP is so much smoother and supple. The acceleration of the MYP is intoxicating - blows the doors off most vehicles on the road from 0-60.
Exactly. Very subjective; depends on a driver’s previous cars, environment (road quality in their area). Bottom line: EV tires are thicker, harder rubber to handle the weight of the battery pack. One easy hack - drop a lb or 2 in tire pressure. Of course that will lead to decreased range, tire wear.
When I had my solar and battery system installed, knowing I would eventually need this outlet I pre bought all the materials for the Install and since they were replacing my breaker box the electrician actually did the hookup for free, I got lucky to have such a great electrician... Of course I gave him a nice tip which was way less than it would have cost to have someone else do this later....
no one cares, no one came here hoping to hear all about your personal experience this video is not about you though you think it is
The forums are unreliable. There are a handful of people saying they wore out their Model 3 18” tires in 10k miles lol. My 19’s went for 40+
Exactly. Without context it’s 1 data point. Friend finally got her Y - after a week I asked her what she thought. She said she was getting nauseous. I was thinking some glue or something. A few days later another friend told me / she’s a lead foot and was constantly launching! Got in an accident less than a month later…
The first thing I did when taking delivery of my Performance Model Y was change the tire configuration. I put the rear tires 275’s on the front. I replaced the rear tires with 295’s. Better ride and handling quality with more protection from pot holes and curb rash. Range impact was minimal if any. Great video.
Holding onto the hope of a battery that can do "400 miles" because lets face it, it won't ACTUALLY be 400, but at least then it will actually get above 300 miles of range.
Lucid Air does give you a 521 mile range so even if it is below that, it will still be above 400
Price drop baby! Buy your Model Y now!
I am glad to hear the ride quality isn't bad on the MYP
It’s not as bad as everyone makes it out to be. But it’s definitely not better than other cars in its class
Here in the U.K. the model Y performance has enhanced suspensions and it was as comfortable as my BMW X5. Ordered one today.
i had rented long range and performance for 3 days with only 48 hours in between. i drove german autobahn from north to south and back again. and i felt like the performance was smoother than the long range. weird enough
Nashville roads should be the standard for evaluating ride quality. This was the video I needed to decide between a YP and a YL. Thank you from a regular I-24 and 440 driver.
Disagree. Head north where roads get destroyed by the winter. So instead of driving on pool table smooth roads possible in the south, you get to jump over frost heaves, pot holes and the constant road construction in the non-winter months to fix all the damage.
Love the current price drop,ordered mine yesterday 😂
I will test drive the car before ordering it. I test drove a 2019 S and Y. The ride quality was, as you can imagine, completely different. The S was smooth while the Y was very rough. I have heard they made improvements to the ride quality of the Y but will definitely have to test for myself. Also, didn't realize that aftermarket air suspension was an option here.
The Model S is a way more expensive car too, so it should have a better ride quality. The S and X both have air suspension and are in a different class of vehicle than the 3 and Y.
@Dan - Like I mentioned. I took my car to the shop and got the Y as a loaner. I decided to write my post based on this and other videos giving praise to the model Y on their improved ride quality which after having driven one for weeks, and tested a previous model, I disagree. The "improvement" in ride quality, which again, is what many of the videos I have seen are highlighting, are not what some folks are claiming it to be. I test drove a Hyundai Santa Cruz that had a much better ride quality.
I own a Tesla but call it as I see it.
Its totally improved with new suspensions on all models! Model S is the best Tesla car for sure, but its like twice the price too, if you have the money, S is the way to go! IF not, get model Y
I think iv seen you around Nash before, not sure how many red/white MYP are in our area but I saw this one recently. Might have been you! My blue/black M3P will be here next month, might see me around town. I feel like the people that complain about these cars have grown up riding in the back seat of daddies 150k benz. I test drove M3P, M3LR, and M3 on Turo before deciding and they all felt extremely comfortable and smooth. But iv owned 20-30k cars my entire life so ofc its going to be super comfy for me!
Nice! Yeah, I've seen a handful of other red/white ones around but it could've been me. And congrats on your M3P!
I just got the 2024 MY Performance and I’m loving it!😍
I have the identical vehicle as this and it is ridiculously funny how these negative rumours get around. This car drives me exactly like my BMW x5 competition 👍
I just got quoted $3400 for the install. I was like ain't no way!
Ride quality and seat comfort in my 23 M3P is actually better than my Cadillac Escalade
The model Y seat kill my hips as a driver. I weight 160, 5’7. Can’t find any good seat posture😢 My old Nissan Maxima beat those Teslas seat. MYLR 2022, Austin version. Anyone have the same problem?
How are you driving on autopilot for so long without the wheel nag?
So I got a newer model Y as a loaner while my vehicle was in for service. I still feel the suspension or ride quality is too rough/firm. I can see that with the new seats, the ride feels a bit smoother but I find that it is only a slight improvement and it's mainly due to the seats and not to the suspension itself. It does feel smoother on roads that are a lot less bumpy (especially in comfort mode), and I was pleasantly surprised with the responsiveness in terms of handling. I thought it was much improved. However, for me, when I think of overall ride quality, my main concern is the impact to my back and how it handles rough patches of road and it is still too rough for my taste, even though it is fun to drive, especially on smoother road surfaces. Maybe Tesla can make the air suspension optional for those who want it and are able and willing to pay for it.
Just buy a Model S or X then. An air suspension setup for the 3 and Y would significantly increase their price points. They were not designed to have a premium ride quality.
@Dan - I have the Plaid. I agree the price point would go up, disagree with how significant, but still think they could make it available. Pretty sure they would find it a welcome surprise the number of folks willing to spend more for a "premium ride quality" at a price point below the X or S.
@@efrainramos1021 I hear you but that just defeats the point as to why they even made the Model 3 and Y. No other vehicles in the same class, have an air suspension. If people constantly want to add things that increase the cost of the 3 and Y, then again I say just buy an S or X.
@@Resist4 - I understand your point but disagree. Isn't Tesla about being more creative and different? Ahead of others in terms of implementation? If I was a betting man, I'd wager quite a few folks would pay more for the air suspension on the models 3 and Y. But I agree that the decision not to flood have to do with keeping the price point down
@@efrainramos1021 Just remember that every time new options are added it makes the manufacturing process more difficult and expensive. I personally wish each model came only one way, simple is better.
It's 2023 and I'm seeing a lot of piss off people buying when it's high last year.
Prices dropped tremendously now lol
I just wish Tesla would give these cars ventilated seats already.
My myp rides perfectly the way it is. My glk350 rides just as rough and I have no problem with it. Putting softer suspension will ruin the car ability to handle especially with that kind of power.
As I’m starting to look at moving from my ICE Alfa Romeo to an EV, your vids have been incredibly helpful! Great stuff here. Subscribed!
I’m glad to hear you enjoy the videos! Thanks for subscribing
Damn, that was good. Short, but losded with great info and very comprehensive. Thank you
I ordered a Cybertruck, but the model Y price has come down so much I was thinking of getting a performance Y and installing 19" wheels. thanks for sharing your observations regarding the ride quality.
0.99% interest now homie if you still haven't ordered
Never make a prediction that prices will only go up as competition is just going to increase every year. You bought at a time when prices were at peak . Prices now have come down by $15000 since you bought
I agree with the first part. But I didn’t buy at the peak. I bought this red MYP at $64k (before options) and the white MYLR at $49k (before options). MYP went up to $69k and MYLR up to $65k and then cut down by $13k. Now they’ve gone back up by $1.5k-$2k I think
Yeah, and now the Y is 54 and 50 respectively
Nice video, Do you recommend the LR version instead of the Performance edition. And do you recommend white interior or black, I do have kids...
If you need all the range, get the LR. I made a video comparing the LR to the P: ruclips.net/video/RYrzf7eMlgY/видео.html
Also, the white seats are very easy to clean in my experience. I also made a video on how to clean them: ruclips.net/video/YbnQR2WFhT4/видео.html
So who orders coilovers to improve ride quality, do they know what the coilovers purpose is? Certainly not for comfort
Exactly. Reddit is filled with people that do it
This was a great video. Thanks for the insightful information. Elon is Elon and the pricing dropped significantly so I purchased and subsequently here watching. Thanks again!
That was 1 thing he should had skipped - macroeconomics will drive prices. Tesla margins are so much higher than the legacy car makers Elon can shift prices quite a bit. And he’s not shy about doing it. Chinese people (and some Americans) got grumpy - but it’s just business. Teslas are so much better than ICE - and other EVs - no one should grind over a few thousand bucks.
Mention how Performance rims bend easy in a video. Living in the Northeast with potholes is bad. Cost me $1141 to replace a bent rim.
You're better off getting the standard rwd model Y. You get the same realistic range as the performance as long as you pick 18" wheels. These cars are made for ahort distance commute only. If you're looking to use for rideshare, opt for a hybrid or a high mpg car. Rideshare insurance for these cars are insanely too high. You were warned.
What about snow places like Colorado?
Red performance looks great!
That is a nice looking car right there, I like it better than the 3. I live in a rural area and don't have any fast charging around that I'm aware of, but I know the prices have come down significantly and I wouldn't mind having one of those suckers.
I’m looking at 2020 MY long range with added performance package listed at 24k before sales tax , should I trade in my 2015 c class mercedes c400?
I’d get a new one. Right now you can get $1k off with a referral link and $7,500 off from the tax credit. Plus there are some new inventory discounts between 3k-5k. Use my link to save: ts.la/mattin15980
I can't imagine paying that much for the car and the interior does not standout. It is just too much to have to do or not do the other things you mentioned in the video. I'm no Tesla fanboy, but I have said if I had to buy electric right now it would be a Tesla since they are so far ahead of everyone else in the EV space or looking to make their mark there. When I looked over my buddy's in person, it was very underwhelming. I thought I was going to be impressed like "wow this is a Tesla." That did not happen. I know there are other factors that make the car the price it is, but I can't see it being worth it to me. Just my little two cents that aren't worth one. 🙂
Nice job. Driving style is the same for ICE when discussing range.
Another charging option: your employer. Renter - so no home options - I could only get a Model 3 because my employer installed L2 ChargePoint chargers. So talk to your fellow EV drivers at work - explain the benefits of offering charging at work. As EVs proliferate, it could be help the employers attract talent.
You did a very good job on your video Matt…
Im normally a bad passenger so I get car sick as a passenger, that’s why I try to drive most of the time however when I tested driven the model Y I got car sick in like 10 to 15 min . I’m not sure why but guessing because of the way it slows down when let go of the acceleration pedal how ever I was told I’ll get used to it in about a week furthermore for the price now 53xxx i ordered mine now. 16k less from top price in the pass.
Sounds like the first electrician quote was for a new breaker panel, my fist quote was almost exactly the same, but that was due to the brand of breaker panel I had. Also got my 240 volt outlets installed for $600 form a different electrician.
8:30 Hindsight price dropped almost 20%.
I guess those prices did drop pretty fast, luckily :D
I bought MYP and 9/10 I drive it around town. So why long range?
Thnx for the video!!! Just subscribed….. I grew up in Nashville….now living in Miami!! I think I was lucky when i ordered my grey LRMY in oct 2021….. i was just trying to get things together….so i would be ready -i do regret that i should have ordered 3-6 mos earlier…. I picked up mine in late May & it was beautiful! I agree with just about you’ve said…..you definitely will spend more money after receiving the car….i got my full frontal done along with the window tint for right under $3k.. you are right about when ordering the electrical. Prior to my MY, i drove a fiat 500e for over 4 1/2 yrs…when i was re-doing my electric panel, i added the charger and it cost me an additional $300…..i did order a Tesla charger also…(I haven’t installed it because i still use the Fiat- this i will doing myself…as i am kinda handy & I’m a mechanic!! Love the car!! Its beautiful….& mine has the white seats also! All i can say is WOW!!! Its an IPhone on wheels…..& i love Tech! My biggest regret is.. i don’t like the ride….i wish it was cushier…..seats are great……i just feel the bumps… overall……i would buy the exact same car again…..& again! Good luck !
We ordered a gray market Tesla model y performance in Thailand just before Tesla bought a business license at twice the price as we felt, it was worth it. We were lucky we got our money back from that when we saw the business license in the press as we canceled it got our money back and on the first day we ordered a model Y performance. We never been able to test drive a model wide performance in Thailand, so it was quite a surprise that first day when we drove home. 22,000 km later the car has been flawless. Now I don’t get very long range with it or anywhere near as advertised but my wife does when I’m away on business. We were looking at other cars when we happened by a gray market dealer that was selling Teslas, as well as other cars, not commonly imported to Thailand as soon as we test drove the Tesla all other considerations for other cars were gone.
We ordered on the first day available here on December 7, 2022 and received our model I performance on May 10, 2023. We had no complaints during delivery. One complaint that came up later was the sound of rain makes when it lands on the rear hatch and the rear quarter panels, exposing the fact that there are very low noise deadening material placed on the body panels exterior. So I fixed that with some dynamite.
I like knowing that the dealership is not my only option for getting repairs done. With a Tesla they got you.
In Massachusetts Tesla can't force you to use their facilities but they have Tesla certified bookshops.
Ride quality is very subjective. One thing for sure is if you ever experienced an air suspension ride of luxury cars, you can't undo it, and this makes you feel MY very bumpy. If you haven't, then it may feel you okay or even good. They never understand why some people are concerned about ride quality of M3/MY.
Welp, $13k price drop on the MYP 😂..ordering mine next month.
Subscribed cause you’re in Nashville like me and I’m getting a Tesla Thursday
Thanks! & congrats on your purchase 🎉
Matt. What mud flaps do you have on your MYP? Cool vids!
Thanks! It's these mudflaps: amzn.to/3UW4loC
@@MattDanadel thanks bud!
Great vid~off topic but what mudguards are those?
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Great rundown. I plan to purchase the Model Y Performance, thanks to the Tax Rebate and Tesla price reduction. 😎
One thing you don’t want to do is install a $10 NEMA outlet to run this kind of current!
Very informative, great list. Thank you.
Thanks!
I just got my Tesla wall connector installed 2 weeks ago for $650, including materials.
. Thanks, good video. Who's the electrical company you used? Mind drop his name here?
Thank you, especially the ride quality info…
Well I guess we know the answer of lower prices now.
Great review, thanks.
can you tag your front and rear mud flats?
amzn.to/3h3MhGG
The most important thing you wish you knew BEFORE buying your Model Y Performance is that you can put 18" wheels on it and get better mileage.
Please stop with this argument. I hate seeing these. People don’t buy a performance model to get better mileage. People buy a performance for its, wait for it… PERFORMANCE. When I drive the car I want to be able to get that smile on my face. If I wanted to save mileage I would have just bought a long range version.
@@MUFCXI Actually you are incorrect because good mileage can still be had with the performance version, with the right tires. In no way does going to 18" tires reduce the performance in any way. And in my opinion they look better than the larger thinner tires. More beefy sidewalls is also more protection against pot hole damage.
IMO it is rough and not very quiet for an EV, when they brag about how little parts they use and how much lighter they are compared to other EV's, this is what happens.
I like the Tesla model Y performance but that $15,000 option. I would opt out of it.
My breaker is in my garage and I had the Charger installed today for 400$.
Nice! That’s a good price
Standard auto pilot and the ENHANCED auto pilot. is it better to get enhanced one?
So you added PFF and ceramic coating? Can you go to the drive through car wash with either or both of these?
PPF then ceramic coating. I never take my cars to the car wash. I always hand wash them. The car wash’s soaps are bad/low quality and the brushes that touch the car scratch up the paint. Some people do touch less car wash but I don’t do that either
Great work
Thank you
So you put the ceramic over the ppf?! I didnt think that was a thing.
Yes
With thr full autopilot option for 15k...can that be added at a later date or is it once you dont get at order you're locked out completely from getting.
Autopilot comes standard with all Tesla's. Full Self Driving can be purchased at any time (before or after delivery)
Price dropped way down plus the $7500 credit for the LR. Most should have waited. The car prices are way out of line right now even with the latest price drops. I’ll probably place my order this summer or at the end of 2023. Huge savings will remain as the economy struggles.
Interesting that there aren't really any incentive to get wall chargers installed at home in the US.
In Sweden you only pay 50% of the cost for the charger and installation. The rest is covered by the state.
My Zaptec Go cost me ~USD 750 installed and ready to run at 11 kW (it has a capacity of 22 kW, but my fuse box doesn't.).
$750 for a charger in Sweden but it’s $425 for the 11.5 kW Tesla Wall Connector here. It balances out.
@@MattDanadel $750 installed...
That's a good deal
Americans were surprised the current Administration (that lives spending tax $$$ and is pushing EVs) didn’t have anything in their big spending bill. Adoption for apartment dwellers will be impossible without a huge increase in charging options. The Tesla $7.5B deal a few days ago is nice - but overnight charging when there’s less demand on the grid is badly needed.
They finally added a heat pump 👍
Yeah, I now regret I bought one
As the economy readjust, prices for all cars will start going down or offer more discounts, the federal and state incentives will remain for this year, and also tesla are a bit overhyped in terms of performance, range and reliability, you buy a tesla for the gimmicks and tech theres really nothing else. Where tesla is better is the whole purchase process for those who are price conscious.
Some people waiting for new features are about to lose ultrasonic sensors.
I turned off annoying sounds from ultrasonic sensors.
Very nice video though the prices just came DOWN a lot unlike what you said. That is a good thing for everyone moving forward though.
Yes. Macroeconomic forces at work. He should have left that out. Anyone worried about a few thousand have bigger problems.
Since these EVs are ALL WHEEL DRIVE , 🚗 dies that mean ALL FOUR TIRES HAVE TO BE REPLACED AT THE SAME TIME? Say you have 15,000 miles on your tires and you have one blow out and has to be replaced. Is it like a gas car in that ALL FOUR TIRES WOULD NEED TO BE REPLACED or is the drive train structured differently? 🤔
Not my experience. Got a nail in 1; couldn’t be plugged. Just bought 1 - no issues.
@@WestCoastAce27 My understanding is there needs to be significant Treadwell so there would be a difference in the depth of the new vs the old tires. That is can actually cause transmission problems.
Nope. Only the tire with problems.
How many miles you get at 80%
Is your rooftop tinted?
Yes. Tesla’s roofs come pre tinted from the factory
@@MattDanadel I mean if you added something extra, llumar tint or something similar.
No
LFP Battery you can charge to a 💯
There is a ton of misunderstanding about charging. Charging to 100% is fine, you just aren’t supposed to leave the battery sitting in that stage for an extended period and supercharging (due to speed and heat) causes more wear and tear (and slows down considerably past a certain %).
Don't forget you don't want to bring the charge below 20%
The Y is an impressive car. I used to be a car fanatic. Not so much any more. I’m watching for the Tesla 2 at a $25-$30K price point. I started to buy a 3 back in 2020, but decided against. Ended up buying a Limited Prius Prime that stickered for $34,800, and only paid $26K after Toyota $4500 rebate in NE US, and $4500 Fed tax credit for plug-in of small battery. I average 75 MPG using regular gas, with no range anxiety. I’ll admit when the car is charged for the first 30 miles, it’s a lot faster. I charge it with Toyota supplied cable into 110 outlet, at night daily. It’s also a standard hybrid, so slow or in town traffic runs on hybrid battery, and braking charge’s batteries. I personally think for myself a Tesla daily driver would work for me. I don’t drive that much anymore, and rarely take long trips in a car. I also prefer a smaller car as over 90% of the time, I’m alone in the car… I just can’t justify spending $50-$70K on a car. Some of my friends have Tesla’s, and seem to be happy. I’m just more frugal with my money…..
Well it’s not like they charged triple the prices for wire cause they caught on its cause the wire is 600 dollars aloe
Man no problem buying $65k car and then people complain about $600 for installing the charger.😂
HUGE TESLA PRICE CUT IN 2023!! ALMOST $20K OFF ON PLAID MODELS AND ABOUT $10K OFF ON THE REST IF THE MODELS.
The PRICE dropped 😅😂😂
8 thing: Tesla Y and 3 lost radar and parking sensors. It seems to be wrong decision :-)
I’ll add to that is Tesla never disclosed that MYP manufactured August 15, 2022 onwards doesn’t come with Brembo breaks anymore on the back tires.
8:42 you were wrong lol
Any comment on ride quality, without reference to the quality of roads, is just meaningless. If its not an issue, why would Tesla adjust it in 2022 models ??