Real Vs. Replica Gear for Airsoft
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- Опубликовано: 17 апр 2017
- Today we're discussing if you REALLY need high quality tactical gear for airsoft, and exploring the reasons players have for choosing more affordable options.
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You can never go wrong with surplus BDU's
I would consider 5.11 gear closer to real gear than fake. Very high quality, american made products
like a boz It is mostly considered good stuff for military training and cadet stuff. Thats what I heard from Garand Thumb
Tim de Boer garand thumb is dad
5.11 is fine for training but never and I mean never use it for duty use. (Personal experience)
@@sledrider908 some of the HQ products might be good for airsoft/paintball simulation but as you say not for real duty and what most people miss is that most stuff for military use is NIR "near infrared" camoflaged not to stand out as a beacon in night vision systems.
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I've seen a player who fell onto a metal rod and it penetrated his plate carrier and the medical staff had to use the quick release to apply aid and stabilize him. I can see where you are coming from but from personal experience I prefer plate carriers with the feature. (Note the field was an old steel warehouse that just opend)
Spends all this money on real plate carriers abs medical kits but has no plates
Here in italy there is a brand of high quality tactical stuff, same quality as the crye brand, it's called defcon 5 and i pointed it out just for telling you that not only american brands are good.
But i enjoyed the video
I had a plate carrier from Defcon 5 and it was pretty bad.
Is it possible that they produce low quality and high quality stuff?
Because for all i know, Defcon 5 is an airsoft brand
Defcon 5 is pure airsoft tier quality. can't compare with crye, TT or other military oriented companies. (im not gonna say "milspec" since ive seen shit in the army that was worse quality than airsoft replicas)
I usually get gear from army surplus stores, it's the real deal and it's cheap. I got a whole ACU Uniform for $10 in really great condition.
Never forget: You are just playing a game. No need for high quality gear.
Besides, even the military buys the cheapest stuff that gets the job done.
Agree with the first point but the second isn’t really correct some of them use crye jpc which without plates is $210 and is considered a high end carrier that the SEAL’s use
OR, you could get TRU-SPEC bdus, the best of both worlds! Very affordable (depending on which version you get), comfortable, and have built in pads.
Tru-Spec isn't bad at all. I believe I still have an old set kicking around somewhere
I love my Marpat set. Can't say enough good things about them.
Buy from military surplus stores, usually much cheaper but still high quality stuff you just got to wash the old soldier out of it haha, also check for damages get the best set you can the price won’t differ typically if your buying surplus
The reason to buy real gear for me is authenticity. I’m making an SAS CT CQB kit, so having the Nomex III Assault suit and SF10 respirator is important. However, if you use an AR, not an MP5, the pigskin Assault Vest may not be the best option. Really it’s all about functionality
Brilliant work! Keep it up!
When I first started out I used my issued M90 uniform, it sucks so I went to airsoft uniforms instead. I didn't like Emerson because of ripping but it was the only thing available if you wanted combat uniforms instead of BDUs. I then went with Invader Gear, love their stuff! I transitioned to Patagonia because I wanted "real stuff" however I didn't like patagonias design so I went with Crye instead, I like their Drifire uniforms because they give me a fair price as well as "real stuff". And that's what I'm currently using, waiting for the AOR1 pants and in furutre I'll complete my AOR2 set with pants as well. Great video!
I am Super Happy with My mayflower apc. But i do like the LBT One too and might Buy One this Summer.
Sebastian Mex ok...
I think I'll be buying an APC this summer to use with my Mayflower chest rig
Sebastian Mex i heard the apc is super adjustable to any body type
I have subscribed for about a week now and I just wanted to saw that you deserve more subs
Keep up the good work
I'm glad you enjoy the videos! I've got something exciting to announce in a few weeks for the channel
I've been running a shellback tactical banshee plate carrier for years and it's been great. Made in the US and only around $200. I do however run condor pouches which honestly work fine even for gas mags that weigh more than loaded ar15 mags.
I run a condor plate carrier and have been for over a year and it works just fine. I like what I paid and what it offers me.
It's perfectly acceptable for airsoft/cosplay, however many of the issues that exist with the system begin to show when used with weighted/real armor plates.
The BB Warrior Very true. I don't have plates in mine and use it more like a vest. I also have no pouches on it and just use the front pouch for a few mags. Keep it light and simple.
A buddy of mine ran a condor plate carrier through 4 tours in the sandbox. And he still uses it for airsoft. I don't know why so many people bash condor. They make good stuff.
@@brandonharvey2877 good to know I just bought mine and was planning on using the plates. Unless you meant a literal sandbox of course.
You realize there isn't only America doing quality products yeah? ;)
Great Video anyway. Keept it up.
That is completely true, however I figured most of my audience is US based not doing foreign based kits
True that, I as a european, just find it a bit disturbing that you repeat that "Amarican made" fact so often. Especially due to the fact that most Airsoft weapons are Asian and many good Real Steal Weapons are european :)
Well, I don't mean to "put down" the equipment from other nations; there are fantastic companies making fantastic gear and guns around the world (H&K and Snigel Designs come to mind). However there are tons of companies making quality equipment that put US companies to shame
The BB Warrior no offense :) i just think that you would be better of international if you were a littles less patriotic in the videos, thats all i want to say :)
I'll be doing a UKSF or Swedish SOG kit this summer if that counts for anything
i run a MODI jpc and i love it, the only part i dont like is the tabs on the bungees for the kangaroo pouch are just multicam cloth but everything else is great. i run a crye ac top and emerson bottoms, both feel very sturdy and well made. emerson had problems with their stretch material on their pants but since they removed it the pants are very durable for the price.
I run an avengers jpc and love it! keep up the good work, left a sub!
I've seen those a few times online but never in person; are the straps that connect each platebag made of nylon?
I believe so!
If you want have a look at my condor tidepool review I just put out. You can see the jpc there
I run condor gear for airsoft and I play once or twice every weekend. I have been dragged in my plate carrier and it works out fine. Obviously real gear can be higher quality but since I don't need it to stop bullets or protect me in any way I just stick with condor. My condor plate carrier is American made and holds plates very well.
Pavlos Pavlakos I only know of one plate carrier from condor that is usa made. Rest are made in china. Which one you have?
WhispTech the cyclone
My condor plate carrer, the , Condor Quick Release Plate Carrier, was bad.
The fabric was just getting wooly around the sides.
Currently using something i bought for half the price. Seems better quality.
Great video, however I will disagree with you on the point about 5.11, their equipment is legitimate gear. SRT, Swat and some special units in the military have and do run the 5.11 carriers, and defiantly the different pants that 5.11 makes. Also a note on condor, the MOPC that they make was probably one of the first affordable carriers with mesh facing your body and creating air flow. Also know a few guys who've run them for a long time and they tend to hold up. I will say they're aren't the best but for the guy on a budget and wants lvl 3 armor (lets say for a small police department) then condor gear will work. But basically its simple, you get what you pay for.
Keep up the good work.
I think 5.11 isn't the worst, but it isn't the best either. As for the MOPC, the issue I have with them is the mesh you mentioned, the closer for the plate bag is connected to that mesh. on top of that, the retaining strap inside of the plate pocket is often left unfinished with exposed threads and not sown centered to the plate bag. While it is a popular option that is used often in LEO/MIL you have to remember that the Gov doesn't buy what's best, it buys what it gets the best deal on. Uncle Sam is quite the bargain hunter. Although comparing the two I'd rather have 5.11 over Condor any day of the week.
A lot of my gear is military issued only because a friend of mine severed in the military and he gave it to me and just appsuluty just love it.
One thing I have to say is that about 3 years ago, I bought a no-name type Chinese rucksack of a website called "wish". Lol, that shits lasted me through Army Cadets where we did lots of ruck marches and even expedition training. I guess if you look at how simple the design is and just make an educated guess Chinese stuff may be good. Btw this amazing ruck was only $75.00 Canadian.
Just buy military surplus or from approved private purchase gear from the US or abroad. Quality is there and it's more affordable usually than legit gear. Got a pair of Swedish 304 webbing (very similar to Alice webbing and is compatible) made on 1989 for $15 shipped. Can't beat it
I bought the condor h2o bottle carrier before I discovered it's a clone of the maxpedition version
i thought u where going to talk about militairy surplus VS airsoft gear.
cold way gear can be realy cheep depending on where u live.
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I use real pasgt bulletproof vest in kevlar. And real us army uniform
Good points, but I think you did forget to mention the legal/moral reasons for buying real and replica gear. It'll obviously exclude things like condor, lbx, pantac, etc.
For me, the airsoft field is an Arena to test my real gear (holsters, pouches, carrier, boots, knee pads, chest rigs etc.) For me it’s not a flex, I want to make sure my shih is good to go
It is possible to get real steal gear cheaply, I found a Blackhawk tactical belt for 6 dollars and Blackhawk knee pads for 8 dollars. Also a single mount sling for one and a half dollars.
hey man I'm looking for digi flora EMR gear. what's the most battle-effective gear? I really, really want to get the fuck away from all these airsoft sites. I want truspec.
5.11 Actually makes military grade gear used by the US Government for both military, security, and law enforcement. Sorry to drown your theory on this, but 5.11 is in no way replica gear.
Also Think about the Milsim Events and NOT only about airsoft. People might want to go with cheaper because not everybody has the money but Emerson and TMC works just find for years. You don't have to buy expensive or "real" company for airsoft. Just remember that a company is always a company and everything is real.
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Good video all around, but I'd like to say one thing. Here in Sweden, we have a Milsim/Mil.ex game host who offers maritime warfare. In this particular scenario, the emergency doff handle is worth its weight in gold, not drowning from all the gear is pretty nifty. Other than that, yeah it's quite useless.
In the Real vs Fake debate, I'm in the "real steel" camp for 99% of my stuff. There are many reasons for this.
1. Quality. I do have a tendency to wear my stuff out. I play a lot. Almost every weekend year round, so I feel it's a good investment.
2. Supporting Companies that I believe in. I wish to buy products from companies that I feel do a great job. Like Haley Strategic, Mayflower/Velocity systems and so on. I get good shit, and they get my greens and all are happy. (Y)
3. Need. I buy products because of the features primarily. The name brand companies spend many hours to TnE and many times this shows in clever features. This is what I look for when I buy stuff these days. I also only buy what I need, and not one thing extra.
When it comes to gear, I do think that you should go through the "pyramid of quality", like you described. I did this as well and it is only now, 10 years of playing, later that I actually made it into some top notch shit. Go out and play, get experience in what you need, and in what you'd want in gear. I feel it might be necessary to suffer through some cheap shitty gear to really appreciate the good stuff, and understand what makes it better.
Why I choose affordable options
Local tailor made in my case,
Granted they're tailors that work and live in my country's armed force housing complex, so they do cater to the armed force
I do not expect to go to real battles with these, these are toys and hobby,
As much as they are nice to have, I don't need Real Steel grade tactical gear to carry toy guns the money can be spent on upgrade parts or another airsoft gun instead
good video
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
I can't help it, I'll see a condor dump pouch for like $10, and a $40 TAG one, and I'll buy the TAG one even though there's no difference, because it's a fucking dump pouch!
I honestly don't understand guys using real plates in their carriers. I understand that they are meant to be rigid when worn but you can get plastic plates that will do the exact same thing, just seems goofy to me. Also people using name brand legit sights on a airsoft gun, spending 300-400 dollars on a real holo sight to shoot bbs at people 50-100ft away is insane. Most people I run into with sights don't even zero them either so its basically worthless haha
511 is for sure real gear
I wouldnt say 5.11 is cheaper gear. Its very high quality stuff
then again. Lots of players just dont have the money to buy real stuff. All in all, buying more expensive stuff does not add a lot to the game if you just play on weekend games.
Using real guns in airsoft
Big brain strats guaranteed to win every game
Precisely! Everyone will call their hits now.
Well maybe, I mean if you brought an ak shooting 7.62 or a saw then there might not be anything left to call...damn that got dark.
Waaaaait. What if they ask to chrono it? (However you spell it)
12 minutes of looking at your face