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Dave Wyman The Rx100 VI doesn't have a handicapped aperture. It's as large an f/stop as it can be with a 200mm lens on it while keep the same basic overall size. If the maximum f/stop was larger, the lens would be larger. I think a great combo would be a Sony HX90v and the RX100 VI. Even better: one camera or the other, or both, teamed with an iPhone with portrait mode.
24-200mm is an amazing reach for a camera that can fit in your shirt pocket. F2.8 on the wide end is not a giant step backwards from F1.8. When you consider the trade off for the extra reach of 200mm you will be happy knowing that you can get a candid shot from afar whilst being discreet about it.
The amazing new feature isn't the lens, it's the autofocus. They're packing eye auto focus into this tiny package. That's worth celebrating, as is the touch to focus screen. As far as the speed of the lens-- You're still at f/4 at 70mm, not too bad, and you're at f/3.5 between 25-50mm. You now have image stabilization on the lens to help with that low light performance. The ND filter is gone on the VI. That's a huge omission. You can still use a recordable external mic issue with the Shure VP83F to solve the mic issue.
I’ve had the camera since last week and kept looking at the menu to see if I missed it. Na it’s not there. It lacks some handy features but I swear the image quality has improved. Having the zoom can come in clutch when it’s all you have. I shot my Nephews graduation ceremony with it since I had the zoom capability
I was excited about the camera until I found out the widest aperture it goes to is f2.8 compard to the previous f1.8. Although the new lens on the mark VI has longer reach which is cool, I wish it had a wider aperture :(
Do you still shoot with your a6500? I have been debating going FF since 2009 but none of the FF models gets me really excited. Size and weight are a huge factor for me. If it’s too big, I just won’t carry it and i haven’t been fully convinced that going FF would give me enough improvement in my results to justify the weight. I’ve been shooting a6000 since it came out. I’m a mom who chases little kids and I rely on the fast eye tracking and 11fps. I do have a nice little collection of APSC Sony Zeiss lenses that are a great balance of size/sharpness. Is now finally the time to go full frame or should I move to the a6500? Love your channel!
Why does Sony charge $1200 for the VI? Because they can. And, let me guess, it still does not include a battery charger that would cost Sony an extra 5 bucks from a COGS perspective.
Nobody needs 200 mm, the aperture is much more important! I hope the will bring the lens from the rx100 V back to the next model and finally add usable image stabilization in 4K for vloggers!
I actually tested the RX100 V in Japan while I was carrying around my LX10. The AF on the RX100 V definitely felt a bit snappier to me. It is still quick though.
I have had the LX10 for a while now, love it - but I did buy a ND filter because the 1.4f is so nice, but super fast it needs and ND filter in the sun. Well underrated camera TBH, AF isnt amazing like sony but half the price for 99% of the capability you know..... Plus the macro shots you can get are ...so good!
I'm happy to say that I don't regret getting an RX100 V recently and will not be upgrading to the Mark VI the autofocus on the Mark V is already amazing and the F/1.8 lens is an advantage over the VI. I don't think the added focal length is worth the added price because if I want that distance I would probably use a different camera. The RX100 V is an amazing camera and I'm very happy with it and will be for a few more years it seems :)
rx100 vi: 9mm-73mm f/2.8-f/4.5 full frame equivalent: 24mm-200mm f/7.6-f/12.3 rx100 v: 9mm-26mm f/1.8-f/2.8 full frame equivalent: 24mm-70mm f/4.9-f/7.6 The mark i and ii were 100 mm equivalents with the 4.9 equivalent aperture...
If we could slap a really thin variable ND on the front of the VI's lens, then I think we'd be in business. Also, I love my VI. For day to day vlogging, I couldn't care less that my shutter has to go up or that I lose the shallow DOF. If you want to shoot cinematically with this thing, you absolutely can, and it still looks great in low light.
I just brought the Rx100v today for $800 and some change, will receive it on Friday. I really didn’t want to spend $1200 on the new camera to high on price. I think I will like this little camera for fast shots...
The RX100 V is great...except for the overheating problem. My A6300 overheats too...so I have two overheating cameras and have to use 1080 for longer video recording (30-40 mins or so)
I have the RX100 M3, currently best value of the series I think. Glad they finally added the touchscreen, but they gave up so much useful features. Extra range is nice, but not at the cost of the fast aperture. They removed app support, they removed the ND filter. They did not add a microphone jack. Heard somewhere they are targeting vloggers, but I don't see how with these specs. Definitely not upgrading and if the next one in the series is similar to the M6, I won't look back to the RX100 series.
But if you're going to carry two RX100 on you, might as well just ditch them for an a6500 with a couple of lenses. M6 for me was a huge let down. I used to carry my M5 with me to many evening appointments, but now.... who knows?! perhaps even my phone will do a better job. Btw... good background jazz :)
Two RX100's are still smaller and lighter than an A6500 with two lenses that give you the same low-light ability and the same reach. And, with the RX100's you get workable power zooms.
Hmmm. Sorry, but no. There is absolutely no way a RX100 (even the M5) could rival an a6500 with a f1.4 prime (or even an f1.8 for the sake of comparison) in low light situations, if that is what you meant by your comment.
You are correct, the low-light ability of the A6500 with an f1.4 or f1.8 prime lens would be better (duh). But compare the size and weight of the A6500 with two lenses - a fast prime (one focal length of course) and the Sony telephoto with reach from 18mm to 135mm (which would get you 28mm -200mm equivalent, so you lose a lot of wide angle relative to the RX100 VI) to two RX100's, one in each pocket. That's a lot of weight and bulk to get that improved low-light. And if one is happy with the RX100 V low-light, then what's the gain?
thank you for the video review of the RX100 camera. for the record, i still prefer the IV. it is extremely durable and the picture quality is excellent. i gave this video a thumbs up but suggest that you consider editing your clips in the future. this video is almost 11 minutes and should really be about 3 minutes tops. no need to repeat things and as one of my mentors used to say, "I got it the first time...." Keep on rockin' and have a great week. long live sony.
I am considering upgrading from the RX100 MV because the zoom. Also I heard the 4k is better with the full pixel read out. Do you think the quality difference for video will be noticeable?
they should have made the model 6 18mm to 70mm and added a mike jack..Extending the focal range to 200mm at f.4,5 was a crazy move and in my opinion destroyed the model .which is why i didnt upgrade after m5 version .
I might sell my rx100m3 and upgrade to maybe rx100m5. I’ll use the money I make selling it towards buying an m5 on eBay. 24-200 is nice though for traveling but $1200 is too expensive. When I was traveling 24-70 was too limiting and wished for that extra zoom range. 24-200 would have been perfect. I think Sony could have done 24-105, why didn’t they. 24-105 is like a sweet spot without compromising too much of the aperture, idk.
I really like my m5, especially for the low 1.8 f-stop and the pop-up view finder. I also have a m3 but I use the m5 instead. The lowest f-stop on the m6 is 2.8.
Good video dude, over £1000 for a compact is silly and I think the rx100 mk6 will flop. I think the price of the g7x mk2 is right for compact cameras. I think £700-800 for 4K and 120fps makes sense as not everyone needs that, but I would buy an a6500 if I spent over a grand. These companies have no brains. Less is more, now they are getting greedy. I hope the g7xmk3 doesn’t let me down.
With no ND, same battery range, more weight, no mic jack and a much more narrowed aperture I do no see the need of parting ways with my mark 5. If they would’ve added a mic jack and cold shoe mount I could have overlooked the narrow aperture and no ND filter but as, is the mark V is a better camera for what it is in my book. Also at 1200 bucks is not too far from an A7iii at 1900 ish.
I just bought the V a month ago, so definitely sticking with that. The longer zoom on the new one is cool, but zoom isn't the reason I bought the RX100.
Yeah definitely the point of the RX100 series is you have a bunch of choices depending on budget and features you want so those who want the reach can now go the VI, those who want a faster lens can go one of the others. Each model doesn't obsolete the previous model.
These are my exact feelings! I'm happy for the new processor, touch to focus, and they made the view finder quick to use! Not happy about the new lens because I rarely ever get to 70mm! Usually 24-50 is my ideal range and the beyond is used about 1% of the time. However, I do feel more comfortable cranking up the ISO with my A7r III so if this is anything like that then maybe, MAYBE, it might be ok. I'm hoping for it. Ordered one this morning as soon as it went on pre-order to compare it with a RX100 V. I'll be happy is noise level is better when having to crank up the ISO otherwise I'll keep my version 5. Or maybe my RED phone will come before this gets shipped and I will cancer this order! LOL
It's RX100 V with worse lens/Higher price/ND Removed/Same bad battery+5min limit at 4k At F2.8 You might as well just your f1.5 Phone Camera like the S9 Rx100 VI will suck for lowlight/Night Time If you are using RX100VI for daylight only even recent high end phones can be fine. Even got better video (4K 60fps with better OIS)
Well that loss in the Aperture can make a big difference for the HFR mode. And I’m seeing some differences in the sharpness with the mark 5 being the better in the overall screen. So I was going to go buy it today, but I’m on the edge and not sure now. The Mark VI does run cooler so the new processor is using a smaller nanometer on the chip silicon, that can be a plus. I’m so back and forth, errr. Price difference is the Lens, processor and the extra DDR memory for more cache at frame burst and touch screen. But the touch screen can be turned off. Newer menu (finally) and custom programmable buttons. But are these worth the extra $300 and slight loss of quality in the sharpness with the zoom lens? Yea, it could probably be corrected post but I expected better. As for a mic, with the new processor I don’t know why they can pipe the audio input into the micro USB, use a splitter so you can charge and use external audio as well. Seems like maybe (hopefully) this can be a firmware update if the designed it correctly inside with the hardware? Or why didn’t they out the mic jack on that accessory handle they are selling. Then everyone would buy that accessory. Does that accessory work with the mark V?
The difference between the previous price-point of $999 and the new one ($1,199) is $200, not $300. I too was surprised that Sony didn’t follow the previous pattern of introducing the new model at $999 and pushing the older ones down, but $1,199 seems reasonable for the added functionality.
F. Moussa, the official Swiss price for the RX100-V is CHF 1,300 and that for the RX100-VI is CHF 1,500. The absolute increase is about the same as in the US, and the percentage increase is smaller.
I dream of a day to get a small camera like this BUT with two interchangeable little lenses 24-70 mm F1.8 or better f1.4 and a 24-200 mm f2.8 zoom lens. I believe it will be PERFECT for traveling.
Well rx100vi is like a new line of rx100 series, so you really can not compare it to previous rx100 cameras and in the same breath complain about aperture... ... just ike you can not complain about 10x zoom lens not having f1.8 aperture... it's like Lx10 vs Tz200
yea, it's like rx10ii and rx10iii/iv (but in rx100's case is even more of a difference) so i'd say rx100vi is not a successor to rx100v, but rather a new addition to rx100 ''fast lens'' compact series... It's good to have choices (fast vs long ... best regards
I have neither; which one should I buy now? I get that VI has better zoom and V has better low light. Are they otherwise identical? Any other advantages to VI or V?
why not just buy a mk4 and a panasonic tz100 for the same price ... you get two cameras ... one that will perform great at night ... one with a 25-250mm zoom ... its a much better choice than 1200 pounds for the vi
Or just the RX100V, the AF is amazing and so is the 4K videos. I use wide angle much more than tele personally so I think the RX100V will still appeal to a lot of others who love 24mm @ F1.8
yeah it sucks there's no mic jack, but then again what compact point and shoot camera does have a mic jack? Pretty much none so you shouldn't be expecting it. The closest thing would be a mirrorless camera that may have one, but mirrorless cameras are generally bulky or they have a removable lens which would make them not a point and shoot camera.
I hope you do a video when you get the Vi in your hands comparing it to the V. I am looking at getting a point and shoot travel camera and thought about getting either the V or the Vi. Not sure if the 2.8 and No ND will be a deal breaker. Cant wait for further reviews on this. I am definitely not a vlogger but may use it to shoot short videos. I will mainly use it for pictures and the bigger lens is drawing me to the Vi.
Thanks been awhile since I watched any videos on products. Not sure if this is a camera I'll buy might be cool on the Crane lightweight and many focal lengths on the fly. Hope your well brother, take care.
In my opinion, i dont care how long the zoom is , im all about quality! Thats why ill pick mk5 over the mk6 anytime! The 1.8f, the ND filter, and compatibility with sony app store are good enough reasons to stick with MK5
O the joy of computer geeks getting into cameras, they have to get the latest model so subsequently sell the camera they have to 'upgrade', this means there's plenty of good quality cheaper kit for photographers to purchase:) Manufacturers must love it.
I'm glad the grip is compatible with the older RX100 though. Im kinda hoping for another Sony trade in program so that I can consider trading in my RX100V (but no ND filter might be deal breaker for me)
I'm so glad I watched this before blindly burning myself with a pre-order. This model has too many disappointments, and all for an extra $300USD. I'll be waiting for something else, from someone else. Of course, having an A7iii for my main camera makes waiting a lot easier!
They should do an adapter for a microphone through the USB like goPros do. Also, it supports bluetooth now, but I’m guessing it doesn’t support bluetooth headphones and microphones, which smartphones do. I don’t see S&Q on the mode dial and I guess the apps are gone too, so no decent way to an in-camera timelapse (that doesn’t take up lots of space) - and again smartphone have timelapse apps. I’m guessing it also doesn’t do vertical format video properly or livestreaming. To me these cameras are competing for attention with smartphones, so it’s frustrating when they are not as good in some areas.
I would keep the Mark V for the F1.8 lens because of better low light pictures and bokeh. I use a point and shoot mostly in the evening in low light so the F1.8 is kind of important to me. Who cares about all that zoom. Just get closer to the subject/object.
I will keep my m4 for mainly video/low light but would like to buy the m6.Sony should keep the 24/70 as well as the 24/200 and renew on a bi-yearly basis. This could also happen with the RX10 m2 and RX10 m4.Interesting decisions to make Jason,i eagerly await your review.Thanks.
Guess what? They just renewed the V - the new Va. It has the same innards as the VI (improved LSI). So there is a choice between long reach and the fast lens cameras with the same performance otherwise (you do lose that ND filter though with the VI, and the Va drops the in-camera apps).
I still have my mk4 and will be keeping hold of it again, I absolutely love that camera so it’s still not worth me upgrading. If they had bought the audio jack and possibly a hot shoe back I’d of jumped all over it
Chrispy Lyfe I also think the focal length is going to make for some shocking low light photos and for me that’s where the mk4 shines is golden hour and night time lights
Paul Rankin im also rocking the RX100 iv, and im so tempted to get the 5 or 6. But only for one reason. The Autofocus. Our 4 is rocking Contrast detection Autofocus, while the 5 and 6 have phase detection Autofocus. And that’s really cool. What you think? Is our Autofocus also sufficient?
Even worse - Sony have the tech to make an infinitely variable optical ND filter that doesn't use polarization and that's what we were all waiting for as it means you can use shutter speed and aperture creatively and let the ND control the light getting in. Instead we get no ND at all making the camera pretty much useless, especially for video but also even if you just want still images of moving water in bright light, as one example. Once more the Sony engineers are ahead of everyone else, and the management and marketing department are 30 years behind them. A one stop slower lens and still no audio input plus no ND filter has sounded the death knell of the RX100 line. This camera is a mobile phone replacement with the easily marketable "big lens" and as such it should have been a new product line (say RX200 or something) as it doesn't have the stuff people like me need to use it as a pocketable DSLR replacement.
Hi Jason: I had almost decided to buy a Sony RX100 Mark V. Then came the Mark VI. However, I am pretty disappointed. I am new to photography and this was going to be my first camera. Now I am confused. I want a camera that I can carry in my mobile riding jacket. I am not interested in videos as I have a GoPro 6 on my bike. Should I still go for a Mark V? I like the f1.8 to 2.8 and the ND filters. Would have loved the touchscreen but will that be a a big trade off?
Its impossible to choose! But I think I’d rather have 1.8 for night and bokeh.... 200mm is awesome and all but wtf! I guess both would be king. Both would be much better than one dslr with a few lenses for some people....
RX100V get in quick while they’re still available as a run out - VI is a disappointment - no mic jack - 5 min record time - works great in Antartica to keep your hands warm and melt snow - and you need 5 batteries no ND filter
The RX100 VI is a mistake. The whole point of the RX100 range is QUALITY. A pocket dSLR , ND Filters , 1.8 etc - There is no shortage of long reach pocket cameras. The RX100 VA says it all, Sony know they made a mistake, The RX100 VA is the camera the RX100 VI should have been.
I'm unsure whether to upgrade. I still get a great performance from my RX100iv. I'm thinking if I upgrade it would be the VA or the 5. I did a travel video recently in New Zealand with mine and Im getting used to the capabilities of these little camera. Check it out if you're keen to see the quality. If anybody has upgraded to the 6, what do you think of the upgrade?
VI with it's zoom and smaller aperture changes makes it feel like its in another class over its predecessors. Cool they packed such a zoom in a body nearly the same size. 3, 4, 5 are all pretty comparable. I have a mark 4 but wouldn't go out and get a 5. If you had a mark 1 or 2, sure it makes sense to upgrade.
well , it's a winner for those who want the best zoom in pocket . For me , personally , 24-70mm is more than enough for such a small camera :) so i stick with Mark V :D :D
They also removed the built-in ND filter which impressed me in the mark V. But the reduced aperture (1.8 to 2.8), the specs that most matter, is a backward step. Made this model a toy compared to its predecessor.
It seems that Sony dropped the PlayMemories Camera Apps for the Mark VI as well, just like with the third generation of the Alpha 7's. For me, that's another downside and a loss of a quite unique and useful feature. So I'll look for a used Mark III or IV instead, they are still really capable cameras today.
F. Moussa At least I can give you well, kind of an advice: If you've got the feeling that most of your photos are out of focus, if you're doing a lot of fast action photography like sports or so... maybe you should consider the mark V. But: go to a camera store and try it out before! If it feels like the AF is remarkable faster, maybe you should upgrade. If it doesn't feel *that* much faster or if you're confident with the focus in most of your photos, stick with the mark IV. For me, even a mark III would be enough, since I'm doing landscape photography mostly. But it would be only a backup camera for me, if I can't or don't want to bring my main camera for whatever reason.
Hi Jason, Thanks for making awesome videos, I currently use sony rx10 iv , I have rode mic and looking forward to buying an external monitor for my camera, could u guide me an accessory that could help me mount external monitor and mic together on camera
I had my Sony RX 100 V for year and it’s never had a firmware update which sucks. Unlike Fuji which gives you awesome firmware updates all the time even on their cameras that are not on the market anymore.
Sony could have a micro usb to Mic jack dongle for this line up of cameras. I am sure it's just a software thing. We have to just keep pushing them for it! Or that new grip should have a Mic jack on it.
hey jason I spent whole day to set up time lepse app in my sony rx100 vi but I couldnt set up. could you tell me how to do this ? and I saw its not in the compatible list.
That is the strategy of Sony. As the old camera is a faster lens people will keep it and there is less cameras in the second hand market so there will be more people buying the older models also
Thanks for the reply. Was already leaning towards the V. The 200mm lens is great but again the previous versions also have good enough reach so I feel the wider aperture is of greater benefit.
Why does this exist at $1200? You can get something that does most of what the RX100 VI can do for only $549 by getting the Lumix ZS100. The ZS100 is similar sized, supports 4K, also has a 1" sensor, has a 10x optical 25mm-250mm zoom, and has similar aperture of f2.8-5.9. Camera-wise, I also have a Lumix LX10 (competitor to the RX100 mark3 at fraction of price ) and am blown-away at the image quality. I'm not a Sony-hater - I have an A6300, RX10, and all my home theatre equipment is Sony.
Just like the RX10 III was not an upgrade to the RX10 II (no ND filter, slower lens), the RX100 VI is not an upgrade to the RX100 V. What I find frustrating about the RX100 VI is the removal of the ND filter, the same 5 minute 4K recording limitation (and I assume overheating as well) as well as the same small battery. Sony has disappointed us this time.
It was released around the September-October timeframe of 2016. I remember being in Afghanistan and thinking I'd wait for the 6!!!! Now I'm kind of let down though...
question, i've both a v and vi now as i got a vi for a song. should i get sell my v and keep the vi or sell the vi for a profit and keep the v? i'm sure the vi will be 90$ or less for the difference in price.
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Not having the 1.8 aperture and the price are deal breakers.
Not concern for the longer telephoto eh?
I deff am
I'm going to wait for the RX100 X. I hear they're getting rid of the shutter button. 😂
Not getting it. 2.8 is a deal breaker and the shitty 200mm is crap, its cheaper to just buy a 55-210 for apsc and you'll get better image quality
You realize you can own and enjoy a camera without it being the newest one right?
Dave Wyman
The Rx100 VI doesn't have a handicapped aperture. It's as large an f/stop as it can be with a 200mm lens on it while keep the same basic overall size. If the maximum f/stop was larger, the lens would be larger.
I think a great combo would be a Sony HX90v and the RX100 VI. Even better: one camera or the other, or both, teamed with an iPhone with portrait mode.
24-200mm is an amazing reach for a camera that can fit in your shirt pocket. F2.8 on the wide end is not a giant step backwards from F1.8. When you consider the trade off for the extra reach of 200mm you will be happy knowing that you can get a candid shot from afar whilst being discreet about it.
exactly
@@JasonVong Would the focus with the V be as good as the VI's 200mm zoom by enlarging the image of the V on ones computer?
The amazing new feature isn't the lens, it's the autofocus. They're packing eye auto focus into this tiny package. That's worth celebrating, as is the touch to focus screen.
As far as the speed of the lens-- You're still at f/4 at 70mm, not too bad, and you're at f/3.5 between 25-50mm. You now have image stabilization on the lens to help with that low light performance.
The ND filter is gone on the VI. That's a huge omission.
You can still use a recordable external mic issue with the Shure VP83F to solve the mic issue.
I still got the RX100 Mark 1, gonna wait for the RX100 Mark 10 :)
I’m keeping my V, if the Vi had much better steadyshot then I would have upgraded.
So it is the same as the V?
Dave Dugdale, yup. I can’t believe it’s got a slower lens and still no mic jack. And now no ND filter. It’s a joke.
I tested it. It still caps at 5 minutes, it’s the same battery and no ND
aww so really no ND eh? Thanks Manny!
Really Manny no ND? I have seen other comments say that it does. BUMMER!!!
I’ve had the camera since last week and kept looking at the menu to see if I missed it. Na it’s not there. It lacks some handy features but I swear the image quality has improved. Having the zoom can come in clutch when it’s all you have. I shot my Nephews graduation ceremony with it since I had the zoom capability
Manny Ortiz is the aperture at 70mm still 2.8?
darriusholt it’s Not from what I’ve heard
When you can’t buy the V anymore - you can still buy the Panadonic LX10 love the bokeh f1.4 lens for vlogging
I was excited about the camera until I found out the widest aperture it goes to is f2.8 compard to the previous f1.8. Although the new lens on the mark VI has longer reach which is cool, I wish it had a wider aperture :(
Yep, thats why I wished I kept mine
Buy mark 5 again, Jason. Seems like a better deal. I don’t think I care much about the zoom. Mark 6 is such a disappointment for me.
I might just cop another one used
Do you still shoot with your a6500? I have been debating going FF since 2009 but none of the FF models gets me really excited. Size and weight are a huge factor for me. If it’s too big, I just won’t carry it and i haven’t been fully convinced that going FF would give me enough improvement in my results to justify the weight. I’ve been shooting a6000 since it came out. I’m a mom who chases little kids and I rely on the fast eye tracking and 11fps. I do have a nice little collection of APSC Sony Zeiss lenses that are a great balance of size/sharpness. Is now finally the time to go full frame or should I move to the a6500? Love your channel!
I'd take the faster lens over the increased zoom range any day. And twice on Sunday.
Why does Sony charge $1200 for the VI? Because they can. And, let me guess, it still does not include a battery charger that would cost Sony an extra 5 bucks from a COGS perspective.
Ahhh probably not. I have a wasabi charger. Does the work fine and came with two additional batteries!
Sony should not skip the ND filter and add the mic in for vlog
Nobody needs 200 mm, the aperture is much more important! I hope the will bring the lens from the rx100 V back to the next model and finally add usable image stabilization in 4K for vloggers!
Definitely going with the Panasonic LX10 now instead of this or the V. Touch screen, 4K, and a heck of a lot cheaper than the V and the VI
hows the AF on that camera
dat EVF tho
I actually tested the RX100 V in Japan while I was carrying around my LX10. The AF on the RX100 V definitely felt a bit snappier to me. It is still quick though.
Love the LX10 - AF is great if you take time to get to know the camera AF settings and set it up correctly
I have had the LX10 for a while now, love it - but I did buy a ND filter because the 1.4f is so nice, but super fast it needs and ND filter in the sun.
Well underrated camera TBH, AF isnt amazing like sony but half the price for 99% of the capability you know.....
Plus the macro shots you can get are ...so good!
I'm happy to say that I don't regret getting an RX100 V recently and will not be upgrading to the Mark VI the autofocus on the Mark V is already amazing and the F/1.8 lens is an advantage over the VI. I don't think the added focal length is worth the added price because if I want that distance I would probably use a different camera. The RX100 V is an amazing camera and I'm very happy with it and will be for a few more years it seems :)
Believe it or not,my RX100 M1 has faster Aperture than M6.IMHO,this is not worthwhile of upgrading.Really,Sony!
I thought this camera was great until they hit us with the price. I don't know man.
$1200 is pretty steep...
rx100 vi:
9mm-73mm f/2.8-f/4.5
full frame equivalent:
24mm-200mm f/7.6-f/12.3
rx100 v:
9mm-26mm f/1.8-f/2.8
full frame equivalent:
24mm-70mm f/4.9-f/7.6
The mark i and ii were 100 mm equivalents with the 4.9 equivalent aperture...
i'm sorry to hear that. I bought my Sony RX100 V in June of 2017 which is exactly 1 year ago and I love it!
If we could slap a really thin variable ND on the front of the VI's lens, then I think we'd be in business. Also, I love my VI. For day to day vlogging, I couldn't care less that my shutter has to go up or that I lose the shallow DOF. If you want to shoot cinematically with this thing, you absolutely can, and it still looks great in low light.
I just brought the Rx100v today for $800 and some change, will receive it on Friday. I really didn’t want to spend $1200 on the new camera to high on price. I think I will like this little camera for fast shots...
Ryan Bandy shoulda got an a6500 for a bigger sensor and better IQ
Yep that camera's still good!
SerenityPhotos I already have the A6500, and A7iii lol 😂
GAS
The RX100 V is great...except for the overheating problem. My A6300 overheats too...so I have two overheating cameras and have to use 1080 for longer video recording (30-40 mins or so)
I would get the "new" RX100 VA. I prefer a faster lens.
Is this what you call "talking with your hands"? :)
😂😂😂🙌🙌🙌
I still can't get excited about anything past the mark IV lol. The mark III is still one of my favourites from them.
I have the RX100 M3, currently best value of the series I think. Glad they finally added the touchscreen, but they gave up so much useful features. Extra range is nice, but not at the cost of the fast aperture. They removed app support, they removed the ND filter. They did not add a microphone jack. Heard somewhere they are targeting vloggers, but I don't see how with these specs. Definitely not upgrading and if the next one in the series is similar to the M6, I won't look back to the RX100 series.
I’m glad I didn’t wait for the VI I can’t believe they removed the 1.8. I wonder if it will still be able to shoot at 2.8 at 70mm range.
In favor for the 200mm I'd imagine. not a bad trade off
Jason Vong guess I need both! 😆
But if you're going to carry two RX100 on you, might as well just ditch them for an a6500 with a couple of lenses. M6 for me was a huge let down. I used to carry my M5 with me to many evening appointments, but now.... who knows?! perhaps even my phone will do a better job. Btw... good background jazz :)
thanks! and advantage is crispy 200mm zoom in your pocket! phone zooming is bleh
Two RX100's are still smaller and lighter than an A6500 with two lenses that give you the same low-light ability and the same reach. And, with the RX100's you get workable power zooms.
Hmmm. Sorry, but no. There is absolutely no way a RX100 (even the M5) could rival an a6500 with a f1.4 prime (or even an f1.8 for the sake of comparison) in low light situations, if that is what you meant by your comment.
You are correct, the low-light ability of the A6500 with an f1.4 or f1.8 prime lens would be better (duh). But compare the size and weight of the A6500 with two lenses - a fast prime (one focal length of course) and the Sony telephoto with reach from 18mm to 135mm (which would get you 28mm -200mm equivalent, so you lose a lot of wide angle relative to the RX100 VI) to two RX100's, one in each pocket. That's a lot of weight and bulk to get that improved low-light. And if one is happy with the RX100 V low-light, then what's the gain?
thank you for the video review of the RX100 camera. for the record, i still prefer the IV. it is extremely durable and the picture quality is excellent. i gave this video a thumbs up but suggest that you consider editing your clips in the future. this video is almost 11 minutes and should really be about 3 minutes tops. no need to repeat things and as one of my mentors used to say, "I got it the first time...." Keep on rockin' and have a great week. long live sony.
The touch screen is the only thing I want with the Mark VI.
Touch Shutter 🙌🙌🙌
I honestly would pay extra *not* to have a touch screen
I am considering upgrading from the RX100 MV because the zoom. Also I heard the 4k is better with the full pixel read out. Do you think the quality difference for video will be noticeable?
It will probably be crispier! I would love to see a comparison
The RX100 V has full pixel readout also. The quality of the 4K should be identical.
they should have made the model 6 18mm to 70mm and added a mike jack..Extending the focal range to 200mm at f.4,5 was a crazy move and in my opinion destroyed the model .which is why i didnt upgrade after m5 version .
I might sell my rx100m3 and upgrade to maybe rx100m5. I’ll use the money I make selling it towards buying an m5 on eBay. 24-200 is nice though for traveling but $1200 is too expensive. When I was traveling 24-70 was too limiting and wished for that extra zoom range. 24-200 would have been perfect. I think Sony could have done 24-105, why didn’t they. 24-105 is like a sweet spot without compromising too much of the aperture, idk.
I really like my m5, especially for the low 1.8 f-stop and the pop-up view finder. I also have a m3 but I use the m5 instead. The lowest f-stop on the m6 is 2.8.
RX100V all day, all night. No F1.8 and no ND filter = No thanks. RX100V forevah and evah!!!! :)))))
I don't think they had a choice with the longer focal length.
Good video dude, over £1000 for a compact is silly and I think the rx100 mk6 will flop. I think the price of the g7x mk2 is right for compact cameras. I think £700-800 for 4K and 120fps makes sense as not everyone needs that, but I would buy an a6500 if I spent over a grand. These companies have no brains. Less is more, now they are getting greedy.
I hope the g7xmk3 doesn’t let me down.
With no ND, same battery range, more weight, no mic jack and a much more narrowed aperture I do no see the need of parting ways with my mark 5.
If they would’ve added a mic jack and cold shoe mount I could have overlooked the narrow aperture and no ND filter but as, is the mark V is a better camera for what it is in my book. Also at 1200 bucks is not too far from an A7iii at 1900 ish.
I just bought the V a month ago, so definitely sticking with that. The longer zoom on the new one is cool, but zoom isn't the reason I bought the RX100.
I remember your unboxing video on the Mark V, and it feels like it was only yesterday!
eyyy!!!
Yeah definitely the point of the RX100 series is you have a bunch of choices depending on budget and features you want so those who want the reach can now go the VI, those who want a faster lens can go one of the others. Each model doesn't obsolete the previous model.
These are my exact feelings! I'm happy for the new processor, touch to focus, and they made the view finder quick to use! Not happy about the new lens because I rarely ever get to 70mm! Usually 24-50 is my ideal range and the beyond is used about 1% of the time. However, I do feel more comfortable cranking up the ISO with my A7r III so if this is anything like that then maybe, MAYBE, it might be ok. I'm hoping for it. Ordered one this morning as soon as it went on pre-order to compare it with a RX100 V. I'll be happy is noise level is better when having to crank up the ISO otherwise I'll keep my version 5. Or maybe my RED phone will come before this gets shipped and I will cancer this order! LOL
It's RX100 V with worse lens/Higher price/ND Removed/Same bad battery+5min limit at 4k
At F2.8 You might as well just your f1.5 Phone Camera like the S9
Rx100 VI will suck for lowlight/Night Time
If you are using RX100VI for daylight only even recent high end phones can be fine. Even got better video (4K 60fps with better OIS)
Well that loss in the Aperture can make a big difference for the HFR mode. And I’m seeing some differences in the sharpness with the mark 5 being the better in the overall screen. So I was going to go buy it today, but I’m on the edge and not sure now. The Mark VI does run cooler so the new processor is using a smaller nanometer on the chip silicon, that can be a plus. I’m so back and forth, errr.
Price difference is the Lens, processor and the extra DDR memory for more cache at frame burst and touch screen. But the touch screen can be turned off. Newer menu (finally) and custom programmable buttons. But are these worth the extra $300 and slight loss of quality in the sharpness with the zoom lens? Yea, it could probably be corrected post but I expected better.
As for a mic, with the new processor I don’t know why they can pipe the audio input into the micro USB, use a splitter so you can charge and use external audio as well. Seems like maybe (hopefully) this can be a firmware update if the designed it correctly inside with the hardware? Or why didn’t they out the mic jack on that accessory handle they are selling. Then everyone would buy that accessory. Does that accessory work with the mark V?
The difference between the previous price-point of $999 and the new one ($1,199) is $200, not $300. I too was surprised that Sony didn’t follow the previous pattern of introducing the new model at $999 and pushing the older ones down, but $1,199 seems reasonable for the added functionality.
damn I'm Asian too how did I fail this basic math?!
"added functionality" idkkk pros and cons of the VI. Serious downgrade without the ND filter.
Where i live it costs 1500 dollar (Switzerland)
F. Moussa, the official Swiss price for the RX100-V is CHF 1,300 and that for the RX100-VI is CHF 1,500. The absolute increase is about the same as in the US, and the percentage increase is smaller.
I dream of a day to get a small camera like this BUT with two interchangeable little lenses 24-70 mm F1.8 or better f1.4 and a 24-200 mm f2.8 zoom lens. I believe it will be PERFECT for traveling.
Well rx100vi is like a new line of rx100 series, so you really can not compare it to previous rx100 cameras and in the same breath complain about aperture...
... just ike you can not complain about 10x zoom lens not having f1.8 aperture...
it's like Lx10 vs Tz200
yeah I see it more as two different cameras because of the zoom.
yea, it's like rx10ii and rx10iii/iv (but in rx100's case is even more of a difference)
so i'd say rx100vi is not a successor to rx100v, but rather a new addition to rx100 ''fast lens'' compact series...
It's good to have choices (fast vs long ...
best regards
I think you meant "prospective".
If you want a Sony compact long lens camera then buy the Sony HX60V with a 24-750.mm
I have neither; which one should I buy now? I get that VI has better zoom and V has better low light. Are they otherwise identical? Any other advantages to VI or V?
ok I feel better now for purchasing my Mark V last month. Saved me $300 too.
Got the Markiii as a companion to my 5d Markiii 😊 love this little thing!
all the mark iiis!!
Jason Vong haha i know right?!
Dope video man!
why not just buy a mk4 and a panasonic tz100 for the same price ... you get two cameras ... one that will perform great at night ... one with a 25-250mm zoom ... its a much better choice than 1200 pounds for the vi
good thinking!
Or just the RX100V, the AF is amazing and so is the 4K videos. I use wide angle much more than tele personally so I think the RX100V will still appeal to a lot of others who love 24mm @ F1.8
yeah it sucks there's no mic jack, but then again what compact point and shoot camera does have a mic jack? Pretty much none so you shouldn't be expecting it. The closest thing would be a mirrorless camera that may have one, but mirrorless cameras are generally bulky or they have a removable lens which would make them not a point and shoot camera.
I hope you do a video when you get the Vi in your hands comparing it to the V. I am looking at getting a point and shoot travel camera and thought about getting either the V or the Vi. Not sure if the 2.8 and No ND will be a deal breaker. Cant wait for further reviews on this. I am definitely not a vlogger but may use it to shoot short videos. I will mainly use it for pictures and the bigger lens is drawing me to the Vi.
Thanks been awhile since I watched any videos on products. Not sure if this is a camera I'll buy might be cool on the Crane lightweight and many focal lengths on the fly. Hope your well brother, take care.
In my opinion, i dont care how long the zoom is , im all about quality!
Thats why ill pick mk5 over the mk6 anytime!
The 1.8f, the ND filter, and compatibility with sony app store are good enough reasons to stick with MK5
Also the new tripod thing grip does not have a mic input. What ? That was an easy way to cover all bases.
Danny mentioned that in his video. That would've been cool
What a great idea.
Great coverage. Thanks.
thanks for watching!
O the joy of computer geeks getting into cameras, they have to get the latest model so subsequently sell the camera they have to 'upgrade', this means there's plenty of good quality cheaper kit for photographers to purchase:)
Manufacturers must love it.
I'm glad the grip is compatible with the older RX100 though. Im kinda hoping for another Sony trade in program so that I can consider trading in my RX100V (but no ND filter might be deal breaker for me)
I'm so glad I watched this before blindly burning myself with a pre-order. This model has too many disappointments, and all for an extra $300USD. I'll be waiting for something else, from someone else. Of course, having an A7iii for my main camera makes waiting a lot easier!
I agree, steep pricing... but the telephoto reach is very enticing to me
They should do an adapter for a microphone through the USB like goPros do. Also, it supports bluetooth now, but I’m guessing it doesn’t support bluetooth headphones and microphones, which smartphones do. I don’t see S&Q on the mode dial and I guess the apps are gone too, so no decent way to an in-camera timelapse (that doesn’t take up lots of space) - and again smartphone have timelapse apps. I’m guessing it also doesn’t do vertical format video properly or livestreaming.
To me these cameras are competing for attention with smartphones, so it’s frustrating when they are not as good in some areas.
I would keep the Mark V for the F1.8 lens because of better low light pictures and bokeh. I use a point and shoot mostly in the evening in low light so the F1.8 is kind of important to me. Who cares about all that zoom. Just get closer to the subject/object.
When do you think the a7S III will be released? I'm holding out for that camera.
I will keep my m4 for mainly video/low light but would like to buy the m6.Sony should keep the 24/70 as well as the 24/200 and renew on a bi-yearly basis.
This could also happen with the RX10 m2 and RX10 m4.Interesting decisions to make Jason,i eagerly await your review.Thanks.
Guess what? They just renewed the V - the new Va. It has the same innards as the VI (improved LSI). So there is a choice between long reach and the fast lens cameras with the same performance otherwise (you do lose that ND filter though with the VI, and the Va drops the in-camera apps).
I still have my mk4 and will be keeping hold of it again, I absolutely love that camera so it’s still not worth me upgrading. If they had bought the audio jack and possibly a hot shoe back I’d of jumped all over it
Paul Rankin iv user here. Agreed!! Unless they can slap an apsc sensor inside the rx100 it's really not worth upgrading unless your a tech Hoarder
Chrispy Lyfe I’m definitely a tech hoarder but I’ve had a hard time letting go of the mk4 for no significant gain
Paul Rankin the slower lens was what killed it for me. They have a completely different line of point and shoot if you wanted the compact zoom.
Chrispy Lyfe I also think the focal length is going to make for some shocking low light photos and for me that’s where the mk4 shines is golden hour and night time lights
Paul Rankin im also rocking the RX100 iv, and im so tempted to get the 5 or 6. But only for one reason. The Autofocus. Our 4 is rocking Contrast detection Autofocus, while the 5 and 6 have phase detection Autofocus. And that’s really cool. What you think? Is our Autofocus also sufficient?
Even worse - Sony have the tech to make an infinitely variable optical ND filter that doesn't use polarization and that's what we were all waiting for as it means you can use shutter speed and aperture creatively and let the ND control the light getting in. Instead we get no ND at all making the camera pretty much useless, especially for video but also even if you just want still images of moving water in bright light, as one example. Once more the Sony engineers are ahead of everyone else, and the management and marketing department are 30 years behind them. A one stop slower lens and still no audio input plus no ND filter has sounded the death knell of the RX100 line. This camera is a mobile phone replacement with the easily marketable "big lens" and as such it should have been a new product line (say RX200 or something) as it doesn't have the stuff people like me need to use it as a pocketable DSLR replacement.
I actually stabilized my 300 mm on the panasonic g7 on my crane plus which is more than 600mm in video !
price increase would be justified if they kept 1.8 and ND...really want the touchscreen but i'm sticking with the V
Hi Jason: I had almost decided to buy a Sony RX100 Mark V. Then came the Mark VI. However, I am pretty disappointed. I am new to photography and this was going to be my first camera. Now I am confused. I want a camera that I can carry in my mobile riding jacket. I am not interested in videos as I have a GoPro 6 on my bike. Should I still go for a Mark V? I like the f1.8 to 2.8 and the ND filters. Would have loved the touchscreen but will that be a a big trade off?
Buy an RX100V again to compliment your RX100VI... Sony’s dream customers... :)
I regret watching another "I hate the new Sony" review. If you don't take the time to research it before you spend the money, it's on you. :/
Its impossible to choose! But I think I’d rather have 1.8 for night and bokeh.... 200mm is awesome and all but wtf! I guess both would be king. Both would be much better than one dslr with a few lenses for some people....
RX100V get in quick while they’re still available as a run out - VI is a disappointment - no mic jack - 5 min record time - works great in Antartica to keep your hands warm and melt snow - and you need 5 batteries no ND filter
The grip is an update. They had one before, probably not a copy of Zhiyun ;)
hahaha
The RX100 VI is a mistake. The whole point of the RX100 range is QUALITY. A pocket dSLR , ND Filters , 1.8 etc - There is no shortage of long reach pocket cameras. The RX100 VA says it all, Sony know they made a mistake, The RX100 VA is the camera the RX100 VI should have been.
I prefer brigter lens on V. No mic jack on both cameras is a drawback, allthough.
I'm unsure whether to upgrade. I still get a great performance from my RX100iv. I'm thinking if I upgrade it would be the VA or the 5. I did a travel video recently in New Zealand with mine and Im getting used to the capabilities of these little camera. Check it out if you're keen to see the quality. If anybody has upgraded to the 6, what do you think of the upgrade?
if you are using mark 3 or 4 , it is time to upgrade but if you are using Mark V , i dont see the point to upgrade to VI :)
for the ultimate pocket size camera for versatility, I think the VI is a winner
VI with it's zoom and smaller aperture changes makes it feel like its in another class over its predecessors. Cool they packed such a zoom in a body nearly the same size. 3, 4, 5 are all pretty comparable. I have a mark 4 but wouldn't go out and get a 5. If you had a mark 1 or 2, sure it makes sense to upgrade.
well , it's a winner for those who want the best zoom in pocket . For me , personally , 24-70mm is more than enough for such a small camera :) so i stick with Mark V :D :D
at the end of the day , it depends on the needs of each individual :) I think you got cash to spray around , then why not ? :D
@Panha Veng : why not because F1.8 at 24mm is better than F2.8 at 24 mm if you know you are not using zoom a lot.
The external Grip/Tripod would have been ideal to incorporate a Mic Jack or their Multilink hot shoe! This is such a disappointment!
Good camera but budget wise i will go with an a6k cam series then buy a zoom lens. Nice review btw. Keep it up.
I was just telling a buddy of mine. a6300 is the same price + two kit lenses!
They also removed the built-in ND filter which impressed me in the mark V. But the reduced aperture (1.8 to 2.8), the specs that most matter, is a backward step. Made this model a toy compared to its predecessor.
I'm interested in getting a non DSLR camera for night time sky shots. Would the Sony rx100 mk5 be the best for that?
need little help. used RX 100 V (around 600) or new RX 100 VA (990)? Thanks
It seems that Sony dropped the PlayMemories Camera Apps for the Mark VI as well, just like with the third generation of the Alpha 7's. For me, that's another downside and a loss of a quite unique and useful feature. So I'll look for a used Mark III or IV instead, they are still really capable cameras today.
Udo der Unförmige im still rocking the rx100 iv and im so tempted for the Autofocus in rx100 v. Would the difference not be huge?
F. Moussa I don't know. I haven't either one of them so I can't tell you, sorry.
Udo der Unförmige thAnx for the answer :) hope you find the right one for you👍🏻
F. Moussa At least I can give you well, kind of an advice: If you've got the feeling that most of your photos are out of focus, if you're doing a lot of fast action photography like sports or so... maybe you should consider the mark V. But: go to a camera store and try it out before! If it feels like the AF is remarkable faster, maybe you should upgrade. If it doesn't feel *that* much faster or if you're confident with the focus in most of your photos, stick with the mark IV.
For me, even a mark III would be enough, since I'm doing landscape photography mostly. But it would be only a backup camera for me, if I can't or don't want to bring my main camera for whatever reason.
Udo der Unförmige Yeah that seems reasonable, thanx mate :)
Hi Jason, Thanks for making awesome videos,
I currently use sony rx10 iv , I have rode mic and looking forward to buying an external monitor for my camera,
could u guide me an accessory that could help me mount external monitor and mic together on camera
ppl say you sony should put mic import and 1.8 with 200mm come on it is not that simple.
I had my Sony RX 100 V for year and it’s never had a firmware update which sucks. Unlike Fuji which gives you awesome firmware updates all the time even on their cameras that are not on the market anymore.
Sony could have a micro usb to Mic jack dongle for this line up of cameras. I am sure it's just a software thing. We have to just keep pushing them for it! Or that new grip should have a Mic jack on it.
How many snaps did you have on yours when you sold it?
hey jason I spent whole day to set up time lepse app in my sony rx100 vi but I couldnt set up. could you tell me how to do this ? and I saw its not in the compatible list.
I think that app is removed. :( No longer available on the newer sony cameras
Jason Vong what shell I do now ? How can I take time lapse with Sony rx100vi?
That is the strategy of Sony. As the old camera is a faster lens people will keep it and there is less cameras in the second hand market so there will be more people buying the older models also
Hey Jason, I own a A7iii, I’m considering investing in a second camera. I’m torn between the A6300 and a6500 any suggestions?
a6500 purely for the IBIS
Jason Vong that was quick thank you! A6500 it is then!
quick question:
say you had a mk:IV and broke it, would you buy the V or VI as a replacement?
the V
Thanks for the reply. Was already leaning towards the V. The 200mm lens is great but again the previous versions also have good enough reach so I feel the wider aperture is of greater benefit.
Why does this exist at $1200? You can get something that does most of what the RX100 VI can do for only $549 by getting the Lumix ZS100. The ZS100 is similar sized, supports 4K, also has a 1" sensor, has a 10x optical 25mm-250mm zoom, and has similar aperture of f2.8-5.9. Camera-wise, I also have a Lumix LX10 (competitor to the RX100 mark3 at fraction of price ) and am blown-away at the image quality. I'm not a Sony-hater - I have an A6300, RX10, and all my home theatre equipment is Sony.
Just like the RX10 III was not an upgrade to the RX10 II (no ND filter, slower lens), the RX100 VI is not an upgrade to the RX100 V. What I find frustrating about the RX100 VI is the removal of the ND filter, the same 5 minute 4K recording limitation (and I assume overheating as well) as well as the same small battery. Sony has disappointed us this time.
I think it was a pretty big upgrade from 4 to 5. The Phase Detect AF on the 5 made it more enticing for me
Yes the phase detect on the V was a big thing. Keep those great videos coming!
The VI has four drops of stabilization. You hand handhold shots at something like one tenth of a second. Should be fine shouldn’t it?
It was released around the September-October timeframe of 2016. I remember being in Afghanistan and thinking I'd wait for the 6!!!! Now I'm kind of let down though...
They give you one thing (touch screen) and take something else (bright aperture) away, so all models can remain in circulation.
question, i've both a v and vi now as i got a vi for a song. should i get sell my v and keep the vi or sell the vi for a profit and keep the v? i'm sure the vi will be 90$ or less for the difference in price.