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Drag Race - Is The 2019 Golf GTI REALLY Quicker than the Jetta GLI?
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- Опубликовано: 10 окт 2019
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( www.TFLcar.com ) The 2019 VW Golf GTI and the 2019 VW Jetta GLI share the same engine, the same manual transmission, and the same VW MQB architecture. So why does our tester Jetta GLI cost $9K more than the VW Golf GTI? In this video we find out.
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What is the trim level of the gti, because that gli trim isnt their most luxurious one
You need to compare Autobahn to Autobahn. I payed 26500 for my 2018 GTI SE with leather interior. Granted it stickered for $31500.
Ok so how did you changed the electronic hand brake for tje maual one????
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dan schneider
I own a 35TH Anniversary GLI and I also owned a 2015 GTI and I totally agree with everything said here. While I love the GLI, the GTI and it’s playful nature is something i miss dearly. Although I miss the GTI, the GLI is the better daily driver for the money. I can fit 4-5 people comfortably without moving my seat forward. I can also fit all my stuff in the trunk with some space left over, which were major issues for me as I got older. If you want the best “do-it-all” car, get a GLI. If you want a seriously fun daily driver and do not need any passenger/cargo room, GTI all day long. Great review!!!
Yeah I bought a 35th myself. Really enjoy it.
I had a ‘15 GTI too and found the ride a bit too firm for daily driving on the poor road surfaces here in the Northeast. Also found the wheel hop and screech on fast pull aways, quite annoying. How does the GLI compare?
Michael Silbert the GLI is more comfortable for sure. Wheel hop is always going to happen in a FWD vehicle you’re gonna want to run sticky tires to eliminate that. The stock sport tires on the GLI are decent. definitely better than the GTIs all season tires.
I was able to recently find a '15 GTI with 28k miles on it and it is a bit rough around the edges as a daily driver car but I absolutely love it so far.
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Called 'PROMOTIONS'
Haha damn you right smh.....well at least it pertain to what im watching haha and that Carly thing looked kinda dope
Another reason why YT "premium" is a farce.
I use Newpipe and it does the same absolutely free lol
there will always be ads in content. Sucks but those videos and the people who make them don't pay for themselves
I’ve had the new GLI for the past 6 months and I have to say, with a cat-back exhaust and a CAI, it’s a hell of a lot of fun. Not only that, but the trunk and the back seat space makes it super easy to carry around friends and stuff. Absolutely worth the money.
and it looks amaaaaazing! I have an MK6 Jetta TDI and while I dont regret it, I wish I had gotten a GLi
I just bought a '21 GLI and just put on the MBRP cat-back exhaust. What CAI did you add?
@@rhcpfan1981 I'd recommend the IE when it's on sale.
It's only a $1600 difference in starting price, saying 9k is kind of misleading
thanks i was wondering .... $36,000 you could just get an audi a3 instead of a GLI
The Jetta GLI base price is actually $800 more than the GTI in Canada 🤔
Top trim to top trim there is $7k difference. Plus they don’t have the same options.
@@pbentsonable yup, not sure what the content difference is in the Jetta GLI autobahn vs the GTI autobahn. Frankly 36 grand fora GTI is really steep, I think the SE (31ish) is about the most I'd spend for any configuration of GTI. 36 grand puts you in Golf R territory
Josh totally agree. Lol 37k can get a lot. The R is very close.
The DSG accelerates well above the M/T. You want quicker times, get the DSG - the shifting is SUBLIME....
That’s a nearly loaded GTI against a low spec GLI. Of course there will be a price difference. On VW’s website a base GTI and a base GLI start within $1500 of each other. The GTI is slightly more expensive.
Not sure if they still are but one used to come from Mexico and the other from Germany. EDIT> Hah, was almost to that part of the video.
Nah they are right. I just bought a Jetta GLI for 21,323 USD. MSRP at 27,395. I could have never gotten a GTI at that price.
Dar FzR GLI doesn’t sale as much as GTi that’s why
@@PRgencoupe still a huge price difference for not as much of a car difference
I’m getting a 2015 GLI for 10,500
I have a GLI and I think it's a great small sport sedan yes it can be a bit better on the inside but keep in mind the price point . If it was to expensive people would get a audi a 4 . The GLI will always b in the GTI'S shadow but that's a good thing is a good hach, when I got my car the SI and the elantra sport and I took a look at the Subaru WRX They were all good cars but I liked the GLI for its confer and sporty attitude. The si was not offered in automatic transmission and the WRX was just to hard and beat you up all the time and did not like the elantra. Motor was good automatic transmission was ok but just not in to the new look . Thanks guys keep up with the good work
Should have switched drivers on the second race. The GLI bogged the launch and you could hear him on the limiter at the shift.
True
My wife is 68 years young and LOVES her 2015 GTI Autobahn. She wants an R for retirement, :)
My first car was a 1984 Rabbit GTI. Man I loved that car! Great memories.
Me too! Bought a red one in the Bay Area👍
My first VW was a 77 rabbit it was super cool and I still miss its awesome reliability and simple design it worked so good
Jetta GLI Autobahn is BY FAR the superior value! AND superior performer with the Hankook summer tires. Yes...this review was NOT apples to apples.
I’m 6’2 and fit behind myself in my GTI. He must sit a mile from the pedals and steering wheel
I love how the EA888 sounds from the inside. It’s a lovely rumble
too bad thats probably just the soundaktor and not real engine noise
Augmented sound from the stereo speakers.
A lot depends on what you are wanting. It is inevitable that people would compare the cars but they really are more complementary than in competition. Most folks looking for a hot hatch wouldn't be interested in the GLI because, well, it's a sedan. Likewise someone looking for a sedan (like I was) should really look at the GLI. Really, if you think about it, for the cost of a 35th Anniversary Edition (which I paid 25K for out the door-that TTL included) I could have maybe gotten a Fusion SE, a mid range Malibu or a Accord Sport. All of those cars are fine but compared to a GLI they are not nearly the performance car that the GLI is. The GTI is the bar to be set for hot hatches and will be for the near future, but the GLI isn't a hot hatch.
So save your money, get the GLI, put the savings into suspension and power uprades. APR would turn it into a little monster in no time.
Love my 35th Anniversary Jetta with that wonderful 6 speed manual however I did nearly get the Rabbit Edition GTI for the lighter weight but that much lower price ended up winning. Not at all unhappy with my choice as I have already been leasing an Mk7 S trim manual Jetta from last summer when they first came out and have really been enjoying that one as well. Now handed down to my oldest son to learn manual on and he is now loving it. So yes very impressed with my GLI and funny fact it has about the same performance as my first car a 1969 Mustang coup with a 351w V8. Great car and surprising performance for the price. The only other car I was considering was the Veloster N but no was was giving discounts when I was shopping a few months back. Great review as always guys!
My GLI has same interior as that GTI, just NICER seats cause they’re full leather.
You guys kinda mislead people here, cause you say those things about display, seats/power, sunroof, etc... when they’re all OPTIONS! .... smh 🤦♂️
WIth both of these guys in the car you're really simulating a 5-passenger load
I owned a Mk6 GLI and now a MK7 GTI. First, I hate how the new GLI looks, and second, I feel like the GTI feels significantly tighter than the GLI in its driving dynamics.
Your "Apples to Apples" price comparison is a bit flawed, as you are comparing the price of the cars at its highest trim (Autobahn editions). But the base price of both cars is less than $2,000 apart.
I feel price comparison would be the most equal. Base vs base is not all that different from top trim vs top trim.
Same shit
I'd get a GTI. In fact I did back in March. I got a Rabbit Edition, and I love it. Your all's reviews of the GTI had a large impact on me getting it.
me too...i LOVE it...GTI all day
I think the rabbit edition is the best trim. Would love one in cornflower blue. That thing is sharp.
Love my 2015 gti so much fun
94,000 miles with problems free
Yaniv Antebbi i have a 2015 Jetta 1.8t with 94,000 miles, weird haha. We drive the same amount. I got mine in January of 2015
VW's can be very reliable. My MK6 GTI went 113,000 miles without any major problems and never saw a check engine light. At said miles the PCV system failed along with the intake manifold and rear main seal causing a difficult to diagnose vacuum leak. Pretty big repair bill but it's been 100% reliable ever since. With an APR ECU and DSG tune it goes like stink. Not too bad for a 10 year old car.
I have 2015 gti as well. 2 door dsg APR stage 1. Wish I have time to drive it more. 23k+ miles on the clock.
I have a 2012 Jetta base model (2.0). 108k miles on mine, running fine.
@@rootsmanuva82 "VW's can be very reliable", Said knowone ever; not even VW. They are designed to need maintenance and break. It's called engineered obsalesence, and the Germans are master's at it.
Saying that their 9k difference is a stretch when you get the same powertrain in a GTI S that you do in the autobahn
Both assembled in my city 💪
Bought a base GTI, brand new, 6mt for $23k otd. Plaid seats are cooler anyway. Tuned making 300 lb/ft torque for $500 more. I win.
Steve Goldberg did the same thing. No need for the leather or sunroof.
I got my 35th 6MT for the exact same price. DCC, Golf R brakes
I honestly think the Jetta GLI has a really nice look to it, inside and out. It has good seats and practicality. Nathan took off earlier on the GTI, because Roman always started half a second later. If Roman started off quicker, he would be ahead. They should be on par performance wise. The GLI does 5.6-5.8 seconds 0-60. That is really fast for 228hp!
I paid the same for my 2016 Golf R brand new as the GTI quoted here. Prices, however, have escalated since 2016. I agree with Roman - get the R.
Used Rs are $42,000 now
Not a fair comparison at all. To be fair...use a GTI "S" against that GLI version. Then both would be base models.
35th isn't the base. The S is the base
That giant teddy bear trunk space test was great! Lol I have a 2019 Jetta and love the huge trunk, I just don't see how the GLI supposedly has more space and this proves it, cool vid btw
My '17 GTI S was in the shop for a annoying issue (that btw VW finally announced a recall for) and in the meantime I was using a normal '18 Jetta S. To put it simply: The Jetta is a comfortable plush old man car (a mini Lincoln Town car) where as the GTI is an upscale nimble hot hatch.
Drive a 35th that actually has sport suspension
Nice review but you’re not comparing apples to apples. Downgrade the GTI to an SE for way better comparison, this cuts the massive price gap in half.
Downgrade the GTI to an "S" version would be a better comparison to that GLI.
@@Jeremiah17seven no it wouldn't lol. There is a GLI S which would be a direct comparison. The 35th has DCC and Golf R brakes among other benefits
I thought Mikey was gonna pop out of the Jetta. Nathan Jr. Is missed. Good video though. Loved the smokey race #2
He did,.....that's him after Taxidermy!!! LOL!
Just FYI, the GTI trunk floor has too positions. The boot floor drops another 3 or 4 inches. That's probably where the 22 CU FT comes in.
two*
I own an 18 GTI, i paid 24k for mine in S trim.. it's not worth 37k dollars in any trim..Also the manual is amazing in this car.. yes you can get the dual clutch but the manual is just so good you would be doing a disservice not getting the stick.
ShartingFish the MK7 DSG is brilliant.
@@bluecent It's not as fun as the manual.
@@bluecent The DSG is brilliant at WOT upshifts. At everything else, it's a jerky automatic that mis-times shifts and waits too long to downshift. Unless in sport mode and then it's overly active at jerky downshifts. I'd much rather have the manual unless buying it to drag race.
Matthew Emrick Right, and drag racing a GTI is silly because it’s not made for drag racing.
Dsg is better manual clutch is so weak
Not only is the Gli base price less but the discounts are alot better. I picked up my US spec Gli 35th for just a hair over 23k
Darrin Hillier, that’s pretty amazing, especially since the 35th has the fully adjustable suspension.
I got mine OTD for 23k flat
@@MeltingRubberZ28 Mine would have been under 23k but it had the homelink mirror option checked and it was the only Tornado Red GLI available within a Tri-State area. Couldn't find another non-black/white manual 35th.
I got mine in black. I really enjoy it. The acceleration the car has on the highway is pretty surprising. I think it's the gearing that makes it that way.
I'm regretting buying my 2019 Jetta S 6 speed manual. Its great until found out the new GLI comes out a month after i bought it. I really want a GLI now.
That really sucks because you’ll lose your ass if you trade yours in for a GLI.
I thought your profile picture was a hair on my screen
@@abrahamdelgado4999 there is a hair on your screen!!
@@97I30T what do you mean lose my ass? Really I don't get it. Thanks.
Acuravigor47 You’ll lose a lot of money if you trade in your 2019 Jetta S for a 2019 Jetta GLI. That’s what I mean when I said you’ll lose your ass.
7:18 “I burnt alittle bit of rubber.”
*little*
Does traction control actually reduce power
Neil Murphy it can to reduce wheelspin
@@chewbaccabuddy3377 I thought it uses the brakes
Neil Murphy Stability control uses the brakes to control a spin, Traction control cuts engine power to reduce wheelspin
@@chewbaccabuddy3377 ow I thought it was like what ford use
The GLI looks way better
Once again, apples and oranges. Should’ve compared with the Autobahn. And, like you pointed out, Roman, it is STILL several thousand cheaper. And it has a useable back seat. Nathan is INSANE if he says he would get the GTI!
Canadian spec 35th edition gets you digital dash, 8 inch glass display, heated and cooled vented front leather seats, wireless charging, rear heated seats, dcc, and a cd player in the glove box. Don't know why they screwed the states over with the crappy version, same with the rabbit, ours gets the 8 inch display in that to with the cd player in the glovebox as well. And base vs base in Canada the gli costs more by a little.
R.I.P. MK4 GTI Vr6 R32 Loved that car
What happened to your R32?
@@lazarushernandez5827 Sold it down the river many years ago. Miss that one
@@chad59 Oh, I thought you crashed it or something. I'm never selling mine.
Love my Golf R
The Golf line doesn’t really have an age cap. Many find it more practical and everyday than a Wrx, focus, or civic if you consider their bold sporty design. Those cars cater to a younger audience, the golf is subtle and has a kick to it.
Time for VW to put the V6 turbo (354HP) into the Golfs and Jettas 😎
APR stage 2 fixes the EA888.
Proudly Made in Mexico 🇲🇽💪🏻
Both indeed.
Hell yeah!!! Great job guys! I didn't really bash vw for making them in Mexico. The quality is still great
I bought a mk 2 GLI instead of the GTI, brand new, back in '85. It cost $2k MORE than the GTI back then..... $11,575 vs $9995 (I got a little discount)
TFL I have a question. Did your 2019 GTI stall out on you at all when coming to a stop? My 2019 manual GTI did and the dealership bought it back. It’s a huge problem with that specific year right now. It’s all over the forums
Nope
The Fast Lane Car glad to hear. Thanks
Far from a huge problem about 1% of a problem...
Ralph Roman incorrect. Where did you acquire your false math? There are literally hundreds of complains to the NHTSA about this issue on the manual transmission version. MOST people do not report errors to the NHSTA. VW now has a stop sale in place and the NHTSA has an open investigation.
1% my ass, but nice try.
My 15' fiesta manual had this issue and more pronounced with a/c on, I had to make sure the clutch was in well before coming to a stop, or it would stall. Did your GTI do it even if the clutch was in well before coming to a stop?
Who has the less weight advantage: Nathan or Roman? Lol 😂
Nathan's back! Yes.
In Canada we paid around $30,000 for both our base 3 door 2016 GTI manual and our loaded 2019 "35 Edition" Finish is better in the GTI but good value in the GLI. Gripes are the rev hang in the 2019, it is HORRIBLE!, no height adjustment in the passenger seat and a skinny, weak stick holding up the hood as opposed to the hydraulic strut in the GTI, apart from that it is a fast, competent highway machine.
I wish you guys could compare the Canadian Spec. GLI. That’s the one with real value. DCC in an autobahn package.
I just checked the VW site, these cars are within $2000 of each other, could be they are priced different at the dealership. The price difference does not take away from the review.
When doing comparisons on speed, never use manuals because it's not accurate. Either use the automatics or go by the brochure and be done with it. I was expecting to actually find out which one was faster. The GTI is supposedly faster by like a mere fraction of a second if we're going to use this video as a reference.
He says golf R I'm laughing !! Very good
10:24 over dramatic because you don't know what foot to put in first.
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AJ Aurgemma what
One of the more meaningful reviews I've seen in quite some time. This, coming from a guy who's owned both of these. It's clear that the Jetta was built to a price point. The GTI is wayyyy more fun also. An overlooked point is that with the GTI, you can stuff 53 cu. ft. of stuff in it. Heck, a small refrigerator fits. Try that going into a 3 box sedan. My GTI sits next to a 911. Which is more fun? On regular roads and non-insane speeds, the V dub for sure. I'm seeing fuel mileage of well over 40 mpg regularly, and have seen 45 on the highway (they sell non-Ethanol gas here). The choice mainly comes down to your budget, and how important is the quality of the interior and features you get, which are absent on the Jetta.
My Passat b6 has sort of the same power plant. 2.0T mated to 6-speed manual, love that car except in stop and go traffic which by the way it's the norm in my neck of the woods, acceleration lag at take-off and the fact the car wants to go a bit too fast doesn't make it a pleasant experience in heavy traffic.
If you have a dog or walk/work with dogs (like I do), the GTI is almost certainly better. If you don't, I personally would go with the GLI.
Here in Canada, with 0% financing incentive. Golf GTI is $288/month and Jetta GLi is $296/month. Base trim and 5 year financing term.
per bi-weekly, not monthly
It's not quite fair to say it's $9k more expensive if you compare a top trim model to a base model. For instance, the Mazda3 has a $10k price different between the base sedan and the top trim hatchback.
Hi. They should have tried them more in a circuit. They lack that. I always follow them from Argentina!
The reason theres a 9k price difference is cause your comparing a basemodel/35th gli too the top of the line gti. Okay maybe its not the autobahn but its either that or the top one. If the gli was an autobahn itd be about 31-34k which is a 2-5k dufference which makes perfect sense as the gti uses slightly higher quality materials like more softtouch around the interior. I think the gti is slightly over priced because vw knows people will pay. When lots of people want something demand goes up. The gli is not as popular and they just want too get the sales so theres no manufacturer markup. Also gtis have more parts made outaide of mexico making transport more expensive
Guy in Jetta doesn't know how to drive a stick shift.
They're actually the same price i was just at the VW dealership two weeks ago and they were both priced exactly the same but actually the jetta GLI Autobahn was a little more expensive than the GTI.....and the GTI and GLI achieve the same 0 to 60 time and quarter mile so im not sure how you ended up losing to the GTI ...i guess driver makes a difference
Why are you lying
Hah, Golf R, of course!
Well I have a 2019 GTI and I'm superior to y'all R peasants
@@rude5801 what makes the gti better than the R?
@@Sven136 everything
@@sporopeza so you are claiming that a FWD car is better than an AWD car that has the same engine? It sounds like the people who back this assumption just couldnt fork over enough cash for the R at that point in their life, and are starting regret their choices.
After selling VAG cars, the GLI is an outlier. I had one customer who waited more than 18 months to get one with a manual transmission.
A hatch is more practical though. You can put larger things in the boot because the opening is wider. It then has more utility space. Also, the Jetta you can see has some cheap finishings and missing attention to detail like the GTI. The GTI seems more built the European way and the Jetta seems built the American way.
If they’re both running by the end of the video I’d consider it a win.
LMAO
I own both these cars except we have a Jetta SEL and besides the obvious space in the back, one thing you didn’t talk about is that you can get more Tech on Jetta vs GTI. I prefer the performance ie my GTI and my wife like the Tech ie her Jetta. GTI fit and finish is much better then the Jetta as you guys stated
The perfect choice would be VW bringing back the Jetta Wagon with desirable 2.0T engine and a manual tranny option... The new Golf Sport/Alltrack Wagens are neutered disappointment.
I've owned both a Jetta and GTI of the same generation... The Jetta was more practical for passenger hauling and grocery runs, but the GTI definitely had the cool/fun factor. After owning both my ideal choice would have been a Jetta Wagon, because it's even more practical than both but still has a really unique cool factor about it.
Yeah my dog is just not going to be happy about being stuffed in the trunk (Lab mix), and once I went to the Golf, might as well get the R for the AWD and zoot. Which I did. Dog doesn't like the back quite as much as the A4 Avant we came from but it's fine, and my rack accessories came over for bikes and Thule. A few months in I'm still not always in love with the engagement of 1st and 2nd, but I'm a sucker for a manual so no DSG here.
Why is the American GTI so weak? The European version already reached 290 hp with the 2019 model year....
If they did they're going jack up the price or cut costs somewhere.
we care about the earth blah blah emissions blah
Is that the regular model or the TCR versions? We don't get the TCR over here, but engine came over in the Golf R,
These cars are sweet and good deals but the fact you have to put premium fuel in them makes them not worth it to me
You don't have to put premium fuel you can put regular gas lol more hp then put premium.
@@marshall2754 I was looking it up recently since I am in the market for something like a gli and it stated in the owners manual that 91 is recommended fuel
Nathan McLaughlin no you don’t have to put premium fuel but you loose power. Any way if that a problem for you then this are not the car you should get just get a regular Jetta of golf if fuel economy is your priority
@@nathanmclaughlin1586 oh, really? I bought a 2018 VW golf GTI and there a tag hanging on the fuel cover that said I can use regular or premium
@@marshall2754 oh well that's good to know I must have been mistaken thanks
What tires does one want on these front-drive cars, if only one set? Are high-performance all-season tires worse in snow and rain than grand touring all-season? Concerned about safety! After that, performance. Not going to change tires twice a year.
i love both
Wish you compared the auto versions
Hey, Nathan, I am drooling your smokey real 200 % power!
Should have done both Autobahn trims. The GLI only wins because of the virtual cockpit. Price is crazy for the GTI though.
Glad to see Nathan and Roman together again! Good video! I think you guys did the GLI35 for the DCC instead of the Autobahn.
Did you even answer your own question? The drag race at around seven minutes in didn’t answer the question. So is the golf quicker or not?
The GTI was quicker than the GLI, since they were both manuals maybe they should have switched drivers for the 2nd race.
Car and driver ran faster with a 35th GLI than the Golf R...FYI
wtf, it was cheap for gti. in norway, one new golf gti costs $ 60,000
People getting upset cos the base models are around $2k difference. But nobody wants a premium priced care but just base items.
But for the sake of the video shown. Accept its 9k different.
Roman, I like the “finesse”
I’m pretty sure the vw Jetta GLI has different gearing for cursing at high speed where the GTI is more track focus
I am really a fan of the GLI but it does not currently offer adaptive cruise control.
I love the GTI a tad more but for a $7,000 (similarly equipped) difference, I'll take the GLI (in black obviously) and go buy a motorcycle too.
Or just a used GTI from the last generation.
They are assembled in Mexico. Not made in Mexico
As an R owner I got a pretty big chuckle out of the ending there
$9000 cheaper for 0.5-0.7 slower in drag race....its ok for me
GTI isnt $9,000 more... not sure where they pulled that number from.
If we are driving the same car and u have the DSG I can’t take u seriously as a DRIVER!
A good ol nathan and roman mash up 😁
I still like my GLI more than my previous golf dsg... maybe because I am older?
You only forcing yourself to like it cuz you already made the switch.. you made a mistake you can't undo
Actually the Jetta has lower profile tires.
I had a 2007 VW Passat 2.0 turbo 6 speed manual and loved it. HATED THE ELECTRIC PARKING BRAKE! It was never fun at a stop light and killing the engine then BAM BRAKES ON! 😡
Be like me and get a GLI and a Golf R! GTI's are for losers;)
Lmaooo @ the Bear's name. Blew my mind.
Misleading title and comparison not that relevant for Canadian folks as our 35th anniversary has all the right equipment with the high end infotainment and leather seats. GLI looks way nicer than the Golf. No brainer here. GLI all the way. Agree with Roman if you have the $$$ go with Golf R otherwise GLI.