You have taken something "simple" ..... And removed a lot of headaches, tossed materials, and made my plane more aesthetically pleasing. You have a great demeanor for teaching this stuff. Thank you for all these tips!!
Thank you Ed. You have helped hundreds of people with your techniques, they are so cheap and practical. You are a huge contributor to the hobby! Thanks once again for your informative and professionally presented videos.
I'm glad that ED goes back to basics and updates technics because there are a lot of my friends are just starting to build and some thing we've been doing for a while, if you can clamp the opposite corner of the I find it's easier to do. Boy does he have a nice working surface.
I have been watching your videos and you're either a teacher, a professor or a engineer of some type. I've NEVER heard anyone as articulate as you with smooth continuity to make each point. Maybe you should make a video on how to make a video - seriously. And thanks for the info.
Thanks Ed. Your videos are both intellectual and practical. I had much trouble and mixed results with colored tape but this video drastically improved the process. Before, I was getting tons of wrinkles and not a covering I could be proud of. Thank you for providing information on best practices when applying colored tape. When it works, it’s a beautiful thing.
Hey great video. I just went out to the shed and did up a few sheets in no time. They turned out great! Couple ideas I figured out along the way: 1. Tape the razor blade right to your squeegee card to make a nice little multi-tool to save on the constant picking up and putting down of the card and the knife. 2. A clamp attached to the table on either side of the foam board keeps it nicely in place so it doesn't slide around on your when you're trying to align the tape.
Using a piece of cloth is a great idea to make it stick, I've covered half a dozen planes but never really found a good way to get it to adhere perfectly, a card scratches the hell out of the tape, your hand squishes it and makes divots and weak points, cloth works perfectly. It's an important step too cause it makes the color look richer and reduces the chance of delamination. Thanks so much for your contributions, you're a legend :) Now I just need a good way to cover the cut edges without it looking like a preschool project lol
You should do a tutorial on how to do tutorials. Excellent! This is a lesson to all those people that have to constantly say "Umm", or "Ahh" or the worst one "just go ahead and.." Thanks for keeping proper speech and grammar alive!
Took your advice on Tape Brothers! Ordered their special assortment of a variety of colors on 2" rolls (12 rolls total) for a very reasonable price!! The order arrived in something like 2-3 days (not counting the weekend). What a perfect way to build some impressive wings! Thanks for your tips and recommendations! First rate!
I never thought to precover the foam before building. I will definately try this in the future to save time and improve the finished quality. Thank you!
If I were to get back into the hobby this would be my starting place. I'LL never be happy with over the counter ready to fly. I'm an old RC glider guider that flew competition. I'd be happy with a rugged take off and landing bush type electric plane that can also capture a thermal or two. 2 or more guys like me competing using rounds certain measured time tasks and a bonus for landing closest to the head of a 20 foot tape on the ground adds immeasurably to just plan fun. Oh and Thanks ED. I hope others apprecial how your system saves a lot of mistakes and miss starts into the hobby. Also ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,WHAT A CUTIEPIE. LOL
I love it, cat walked by right on cue when he was talking about cleaning the work surface. If you have a cat and a piece of tape, there will be a cat hair on the tape.
That is correct. Riot Art has large sheets but they cost $10-$15 per sheet depending on size but the paper doesn't peel off unless you soak it. The best option for Australians is Depron. You can get a box with 20 large (1000mm x 700mm x 6mm) sheets for $225 delivered.
I just did some testing with removing paper and then applying tape. As warned, the tape peels off pretty easily from the foam. However, I used my clothes iron on the "silk" setting (medium-low) and ironed over the taped foam, and then the tape was very difficult to remove from the foamboard. I think I'm going to use this method to cover my boards.
AWESOME!!!!! Heard about you on Flite Test. Wonderful techniques. You solved a half a dozen headaches of mine in just 1 video. Subscribed and "liked". Can't wait to check out the rest. Thank you. Dan
Absolutely you can. The tape does not adhere quite as permanently to the foam as it does to the paper, but it's pretty good. You'll save about 30% in weight, more or less, depending on whether you leave the paper on in some places as prescribed by the bending techniques. And some durability will be lost.
Wow , man you r the best , my all respect and appreciation to u for supporting us the hobby lovers and thanks for what u did and ur doing for the hobby , u r great , keep it up , god bless u .
Wow. Man you showed me some really amazing things to make my day soo much easier . Lmao. Things like cutting tape half way and pulling the rest off with fingers so it doesn’t roll back up on me and starting next strip. Good stuff . A lot of great info here. Thanks you
Ed, you keep getting better and better! Excellent video! ...So now... we meet the inestimable Ansley...! Sorry, Ed... she's cuter than you... keep up the great work!
Your foam board concept is very inspiring. I live in HK and use subway to commute. A foldable 0.5m wingspan acrobatic plane which will take a beating is what iam am looking for. Something I can fly in a small soccer pitch seized Field 😀
i did some test build parts removing the paper and applying tape direct to foam . this improved durrability because the paper peels easy. in a crash the paper adhesion is 1st to fail and makes repairs difficult . pre-taping the foam (paper removed )and setting it with the iron seems best
Tips: The paper comes off much easier if you mist it with a water spray. The paper should be removed from both sides, then the tape applied, then bend. The results are better. If you leave the paper on, it will NOT be waterproof and even high humidity could cause it to peel off.
step-by-step demonstration of the simple method used to pre-cover foamboard and Depron with thin colored packing tape. This covered foamboard forms the basic raw material for the Experimental Airlines construction technique for scratchbuilt RC airplanes.
Info for people who are used to European type measurements. 2 mil, in the US means (2 thou) 2/1000ths of an inch or 0.002" and as Ed pointed out 0.05 millimeters. Yeap, we can get the Adams foam core board here in the UK, usually from art shops, so it's not a dollar a piece. ;¬) But I can buy it locally from a shop called The Range for £3.99 for one A1 size sheet. So that's $6.08 for just one paper covered foam board that's approx 3" bigger bigger in length and width. :¬( Oh well. :¬)
There are, and I will include in a future video, but briefly it is to generously emboss the inside radius of each fold, be very gentle while folding, and don't overbend.
Great instruction. I used polyurethane and spray paint on my nutball. It turned out ok but this method seems like it would add some good reinforcement to the foam board.
I'd like to know about removing the paper first as well. I can see that taping over it would increase the strength of the foam, but I've found that the paper covering on that "dollar tree" foam board can be peeled off pretty easily. With that being said it seems that taping over the paper would be useless if the paper is going to peel off. Anyone got a suggestion about this? By the way, excellent video!
I have seen this video many times and I would like to thank you for the hard work here. That being said, I would like to know how would you laminate (with tape) the edges of the foam board?
Either of these planes is pretty easy to fly, but they really need ailerons. You would need dihedral to fly 3 channel only, and honestly the trouble of getting dihedral is more effort than just going ahead and committing to ailerons. I would go with an Axon and use ailerons and you'll not regret it.
Thanks ed. Is there any chance that the noob tube or petros could be flown using only rudder and elevator? I am new flier and unsure with ailerons. Thanks for the great videos
You will have to look around. I am sure there is something for your needs, but I am unfamiliar with the choices in India. It should be light and the paper should come off easily. Usually the less it costs the better it will be for building.
You have taken something "simple" ..... And removed a lot of headaches, tossed materials, and made my plane more aesthetically pleasing. You have a great demeanor for teaching this stuff. Thank you for all these tips!!
Great Job.. very clear video
Thank you Ed. You have helped hundreds of people with your techniques, they are so cheap and practical. You are a huge contributor to the hobby!
Thanks once again for your informative and professionally presented videos.
Great video ! to the point with no obnoxious music or dancing. Thanks!
cute little girl, always fun to get the kids involved, great job.
I miss Ed’s videos. His stuff is bar-none, the best.
I'm glad that ED goes back to basics and updates technics because there are a lot of my friends are just starting to build and some thing we've been doing for a while, if you can clamp the opposite corner of the I find it's easier to do. Boy does he have a nice working surface.
I have been watching your videos and you're either a teacher, a professor or a engineer of some type. I've NEVER heard anyone as articulate as you with smooth continuity to make each point.
Maybe you should make a video on how to make a video - seriously. And thanks for the info.
You are real guru.
Explain is very clear and practical language. Focus on the tiny but imp points.
U inspired me.
Thanks Ed. Your videos are both intellectual and practical. I had much trouble and mixed results with colored tape but this video drastically improved the process. Before, I was getting tons of wrinkles and not a covering I could be proud of. Thank you for providing information on best practices when applying colored tape. When it works, it’s a beautiful thing.
Hey great video. I just went out to the shed and did up a few sheets in no time. They turned out great! Couple ideas I figured out along the way: 1. Tape the razor blade right to your squeegee card to make a nice little multi-tool to save on the constant picking up and putting down of the card and the knife.
2. A clamp attached to the table on either side of the foam board keeps it nicely in place so it doesn't slide around on your when you're trying to align the tape.
Thanks for sharing your experience
Excellent tips! The one that helps me the most was the static prevention method.
Great video Ed. I learned a whole bunch !!
Using a piece of cloth is a great idea to make it stick, I've covered half a dozen planes but never really found a good way to get it to adhere perfectly, a card scratches the hell out of the tape, your hand squishes it and makes divots and weak points, cloth works perfectly. It's an important step too cause it makes the color look richer and reduces the chance of delamination. Thanks so much for your contributions, you're a legend :)
Now I just need a good way to cover the cut edges without it looking like a preschool project lol
You should do a tutorial on how to do tutorials. Excellent! This is a lesson to all those people that have to constantly say "Umm", or "Ahh" or the worst one "just go ahead and.." Thanks for keeping proper speech and grammar alive!
Took your advice on Tape Brothers! Ordered their special assortment of a variety of colors on 2" rolls (12 rolls total) for a very reasonable price!! The order arrived in something like 2-3 days (not counting the weekend). What a perfect way to build some impressive wings! Thanks for your tips and recommendations! First rate!
Didn't know Jack Johnson likes to build rc planes. Great work!
Your attention to detail is amazing! The thought you have put into every aspect of your planes is truly wonderful. Thanks for all of your videos
I never thought to precover the foam before building. I will definately try this in the future to save time and improve the finished quality. Thank you!
If I were to get back into the hobby this would be my starting place. I'LL never be happy with over the counter ready to fly. I'm an old RC glider guider that flew competition. I'd be happy with a rugged take off and landing bush type electric plane that can also capture a thermal or two. 2 or more guys like me competing using rounds certain measured time tasks and a bonus for landing closest to the head of a 20 foot tape on the ground adds immeasurably to just plan fun. Oh and Thanks ED. I hope others apprecial how your system saves a lot of mistakes and miss starts into the hobby. Also ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,WHAT A CUTIEPIE. LOL
Your videos are very instructive and rich in details! I'm learning more every day! Beautiful your daughter ! Congratulations !
Dude! Great video! Thank you so much! Anglenous… never heard this word before. But I love it!
i can imagine this guy teaching physics....just perfect! thank you!
Eccellent job.Cheap,clean and good finished.Thanks
I love it, cat walked by right on cue when he was talking about cleaning the work surface. If you have a cat and a piece of tape, there will be a cat hair on the tape.
your an artist at this!
Great video Ed. Funny kids of that age do that with their tongue when seeing themselves on screen.. haha adorable
That is correct. Riot Art has large sheets but they cost $10-$15 per sheet depending on size but the paper doesn't peel off unless you soak it.
The best option for Australians is Depron. You can get a box with 20 large (1000mm x 700mm x 6mm) sheets for $225 delivered.
I just did some testing with removing paper and then applying tape. As warned, the tape peels off pretty easily from the foam. However, I used my clothes iron on the "silk" setting (medium-low) and ironed over the taped foam, and then the tape was very difficult to remove from the foamboard. I think I'm going to use this method to cover my boards.
Have you done any testing? Is it stiffer? Lighter?
nice tutorial.....little angel is added bonus.
I feel like you could teach more than just RC plane construction. I honestly hope you do.
AWESOME!!!!!
Heard about you on Flite Test. Wonderful techniques. You solved a half a dozen headaches of mine in just 1 video.
Subscribed and "liked". Can't wait to check out the rest.
Thank you.
Dan
Great instructional vid as usual Ed. Thumbs up and added to faves.
I just happen to have a Plotter/Cutter for making decals....I found that the decal vinyl rolls work great for adding color!
Very nicely done, thanks for the education today.
Fantastic, man. Thanks a lot!
Ed,thanks much for your videos!
GREAT!!!!
awesome simply great. thumbs up looking forward to more nice videos
Absolutely you can. The tape does not adhere quite as permanently to the foam as it does to the paper, but it's pretty good. You'll save about 30% in weight, more or less, depending on whether you leave the paper on in some places as prescribed by the bending techniques. And some durability will be lost.
Ed, you do great videos! I know you haven't posted in a long time, but really appreciate your insight. Thank you!
Outstanding Video Sir. Great Ideas here and practical information.
Wow , man you r the best , my all respect and appreciation to u for supporting us the hobby lovers and thanks for what u did and ur doing for the hobby , u r great , keep it up , god bless u .
I sure wish I had a chance to meet you at FliteFest. You have some great ideas. I will use them in my future builds. Thanks for sharing...
Wow. Man you showed me some really amazing things to make my day soo much easier . Lmao. Things like cutting tape half way and pulling the rest off with fingers so it doesn’t roll back up on me and starting next strip. Good stuff . A lot of great info here. Thanks you
Ed, you keep getting better and better! Excellent video!
...So now... we meet the inestimable Ansley...! Sorry, Ed... she's cuter than you...
keep up the great work!
fantastically detailed and educational - thanks for taking the time to teach me so much :-)
Nice job Ed! Love your designs, plan on making a fuglyjet this some for my 1st EDF
Thank you sir. I'll start today. Love the awesome videos. Thanks for sharing you knowledge
Wow pretty cool Ed
She steals the show
Your foam board concept is very inspiring. I live in HK and use subway to commute. A foldable 0.5m wingspan acrobatic plane which will take a beating is what iam am looking for. Something I can fly in a small soccer pitch seized Field 😀
awesome tutorial - subscribed instantly.. Will wait more tutorial on RC..
Awesome Video! And to think I was going to try and use Colored Duct Tape, Tape Brothers it is...
i did some test build parts removing the paper and applying tape direct to foam . this improved durrability because the paper peels easy. in a crash the paper adhesion is 1st to fail and makes repairs difficult . pre-taping the foam (paper removed )and setting it with the iron seems best
many thanks !
Thanks for the tutoríal man! Your Baby is so cute 👍🏻
Great video. Thanks !!
very detailed. thanks
Great video sir
Nice little tutor.
You rule, thank you.
YOU ARE GREAT MY FRIEND
THANK YOU
I am smiling great video'
Your Baby is so cute
Tips:
The paper comes off much easier if you mist it with a water spray.
The paper should be removed from both sides, then the tape applied, then bend. The results are better.
If you leave the paper on, it will NOT be waterproof and even high humidity could cause it to peel off.
Well-Done
step-by-step demonstration of the simple method used to pre-cover foamboard and Depron with thin colored packing tape. This covered foamboard forms the basic raw material for the Experimental Airlines construction technique for scratchbuilt RC airplanes.
Info for people who are used to European type measurements. 2 mil, in the US means (2 thou) 2/1000ths of an inch or 0.002" and as Ed pointed out 0.05 millimeters.
Yeap, we can get the Adams foam core board here in the UK, usually from art shops, so it's not a dollar a piece. ;¬) But I can buy it locally from a shop called The Range for £3.99 for one A1 size sheet. So that's $6.08 for just one paper covered foam board that's approx 3" bigger bigger in length and width. :¬( Oh well. :¬)
There are, and I will include in a future video, but briefly it is to generously emboss the inside radius of each fold, be very gentle while folding, and don't overbend.
Your techniques are awesome! Just subscribed! :)
Excellent video as usual :-)
Great instruction. I used polyurethane and spray paint on my nutball. It turned out ok but this method seems like it would add some good reinforcement to the foam board.
Tell Tape Brothers to make you a 20" wide packing tape roll to experiment with, haha :D
I'd like to know about removing the paper first as well. I can see that taping over it would increase the strength of the foam, but I've found that the paper covering on that "dollar tree" foam board can be peeled off pretty easily. With that being said it seems that taping over the paper would be useless if the paper is going to peel off. Anyone got a suggestion about this?
By the way, excellent video!
Good tips!
Thanks for sharing.
I have seen this video many times and I would like to thank you for the hard work here. That being said, I would like to know how would you laminate (with tape) the edges of the foam board?
Either of these planes is pretty easy to fly, but they really need ailerons. You would need dihedral to fly 3 channel only, and honestly the trouble of getting dihedral is more effort than just going ahead and committing to ailerons. I would go with an Axon and use ailerons and you'll not regret it.
He’s Magic teacher amazing details wow I’m impressed thank you
Quite charming hostess you have there Ed..
The word is that Riot Art has something close, though it costs more, harder to peel off paper facing, and weighs a little more.
Thank you! Great tutor!
you're so awesome! subscribed
I find that if you iron the packing tape at 90 degrees Celsius or so, it sticks really well to foamboard/Depron.
Thank you Ed, I'm looking forward to the video.
Thanks this is really helpful
Thank you so much for this video
thanks for sparing words. refreshing. how do feel about generic laminate . I'm new to your channel, so i don;t know if you've discussed this..
Thanks ed. Is there any chance that the noob tube or petros could be flown using only rudder and elevator? I am new flier and unsure with ailerons. Thanks for the great videos
Great video :D and thanks for the tips
Can the photon or axon be flown as three channel. Still scared of ailerons. Thanks
You will have to look around. I am sure there is something for your needs, but I am unfamiliar with the choices in India. It should be light and the paper should come off easily. Usually the less it costs the better it will be for building.
Do you take the paper off the foam before you tape it??. Or do you tape the paper?
Nice vids!
Nice vid, Thnx!
Thanks.
do you have any technique to reduce the warp on a piece of foamboard?
as i m a beginner, i live in india and i don't know which foam to use. please tell me
great video
Where should the cg be on the axon and photon? Thanks
Ed, are there any more additional steps you need to do to make an Armin wing using Depron?