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I’ve hit 350 with faster drivers but the ease of 300+ feet with the river always keeps me coming back to it. It’s my primary do it all driver. Mine seems to be a flippy run but still has miles of glide, I just need to release on some hyzer
I still struggle to get a driver much farther than my mid so right now my VRoc is my favorite in the bag. That’s the disc that I get the majority the of the shots that keep me motivated with.
All good! It just takes some time to improve form, but more importantly, it's most likely because you are throwing nose-up. Watch our video called - How to get more distance (to help with this). If however you do want to get a disc with more distance, try to take a look at some 7 speeds :)
Yeah depends on the run, we tried the disc in the Opto plastic and felt they flew more like they had a 2 fade. In short, whenever you find a run you like, but a few more! 👍
Great video, always cool to see my local courses in videos! Also shout out True North Disc Golf! If you ever want to do a coaching series I know a very bad local who would be down!😁
The River was the first disc I purchased after my beginner set and what my friend who introduced me to DG gave me (Pa4, Lep3, Roc, Valkyrie). I started August of '21. The Escape took a lot of throws away from the River and I've found that my longest disc is an Opto Ballista. I have now just discovered the Prodigy F7 (400). That thing can fly... Almost as far as the Ballista even. Check it out.
Awesome recos! I think I need to try a river in a base plastic as my premium one is surprisingly overstable. It's good for those smooth 65% forehands but a little too stable for my backhand.
Yeah, we noticed the Opto plastic definitely makes it more overstable. However, they would be ideal for throwing after we’ve broken them in 👍 Just something to think about!
@@JustDisc yeah I just checked I got a Gold Ice. Looks and feels amazing, just a bit too stable for me and it is breaking in extremely slowly. Should have tried a regular Gold or regular Opto maybe.
And to not confuse the average reader, my backhand kinda stinks so maybe the gold ice would be perfect for you, I just need a little more help with getting some turn
Crave is almost as flippy as the river! And I have a fission crave. Finding it hard to justify use of this disc. Thinking about replacing it with a teebird or teebird3 in Star. I used to have a star teebird that was point and shoot. I pointed it and shot it into the pond at Idlewild. Just off the shore in the deep stuff. *sigh* Oh, and if you want a teebird that is almost a River, then get the Teebird in Champion plastic. Super-domey, so throw it smooth or else it will flip, too.
I've never thrown Clash discs, but when I had a mixed bag (I've had a MVP/Axiom bag for a bit over a year now), I had the Falk and River as part of my bag. But I lost my first Falk over a wall onto someone's property and never got it back. Then i sent the second one over a wall on another course and it came back chewn up by a dog. So I got the hint....Falk's are awesome discs, but they don't want to be in my bag.
@JustDisc I love the River, it's very straight for me, but doesn't work so well in a head wind. I'm also liking the Saint which is a longer River. The Sidewinder is another fave of mine, I have four of them. Today the River has made it back into my bag and I might be putting the Sidewinder back in.
This came at a good time as I have been thinking of trying a Falk and River. I wonder how the Berry would compare to a Hex as the flight numbers are the same
Agreed. I have both, and most hexes have less turn than a berry but similar fade resulting in a slightly more stable disc overall. But they're both pretty neutral. In fact, my lighter weight hexes fly just like a berry.
My question: as an older intermediate disc golfer, is it better to carry 7 speeds as a fairway and 9 speeds as distance drivers or since 7 and 9 speeds are both fairway drivers - is that too much overlap? I carry 3 stabilities of 7 speeds and 3 stabilities of 9 speeds. Would it be better to focus on one or the other?
Hey Paul, loooove this question. Honestly, we don’t think you should ever build a bag or game around speeds. Do what works for you, and screw what anybody else thinks. Do you get anything additional by having the 9 speed discs, or are they there because you just feel you should have them? Do they get more distance? Do they allow for different shot types that your 7 speeds can not perform? If so, keep ‘em! Try to think about what each disc is adding to your game. One way to figure this out is to play a round without your 9 speeds, and another without your 7 speeds. Which gave you better results? During any of your rounds, did you wish you had those missing discs in your bag? And sometimes, it’s just a mental thing. Does having those discs make you feel like you can play better disc golf? Do you feel like your missing parts of your game without those discs? Anyways, hope this helps Paul! 👍
@JustDisc it absolutely does. When everything aligns, I can get 20 to 40 feet more out of my Escape over my River. Your recommendation of rounds with one or the other is something I will try. Some of my discs are in my bag just because they were in my bag for a while. I seem to struggle with: if I have 2 or 3 good shots with a disc, I leave it in even if, more often than not, I don't rely on it continuously. I want to simplify my bag. Can you do a "building an intermediate bag" segment sometime? There are tons of beginner and pro bag advice but not much for the intermediate player - especially an intermediate player with lower arm speed. I feel older intermediate players (many covid DGers) are criminally underserved online.
Very money, that and the Relay is absolutely amazing to I bag both and would feel naked without them...in Michigan we have a lot of wooded courses. It's crazy how easily I can hit gaps with either disc
Interesting choices. I laughed out loud when you said "Latitude 64 River" because I bought two in opto plastic and one tree hit later I had one roller disc and one that wouldn't do anything. So, if anyone wants these, let me know. They're very pretty transluscent watermelon color. For my money; if you wanted to replace both the Berry AND the River, you could just buy an MVP Hex.
Not to nitpick but I think you meant 1 disc round with the Berry and not 1 round disc. 1 round disc either means it's a statement of its shape or you'll only use it for one round and be done with it, whereas a 1 disc round would imply that you will only use 1 disc for that round. Still love the content, I had a river for ages, my buddy had one and beat it understable so this year it's learning to throw rollers.
No talk of plastics - that matters soooooooo much. Innova, for example, try throwing a DX, G Star and Champion in the same mold - they are not the same disc at all.
Yes that’s true! We didn’t in this video. However, many of other videos do discuss plastics. We’ll definitely keep it in mind for the next one though! 👍
@@JustDisc what plastics were the discs you were throwing? I just don't want people rushing out and buying a way overstable hard, shiny plastic and just crashing and burning or a hard thrower with a cheap plastic thinking it is unuseably flippy.
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get the essence in here!
I love my eko truth for straight midrange shots. Comfortable in the hand, and very true to how you throw it.
Great video man! I just picked up the River a few weeks ago. I absolutely love it! It has become my primary fairway driver.
Thanks Frets! We love making these videos for people just like you ❤️👍
I’ve hit 350 with faster drivers but the ease of 300+ feet with the river always keeps me coming back to it. It’s my primary do it all driver. Mine seems to be a flippy run but still has miles of glide, I just need to release on some hyzer
Very cool. Really appreciate the added dimension of drone footage.
Thanks for your support Joseph, and thanks for watching 👍❤️
My buddy who just started playing just had an ace run with my old River, so needless to say he agrees with you! (And now he owns that River)
I still struggle to get a driver much farther than my mid so right now my VRoc is my favorite in the bag. That’s the disc that I get the majority the of the shots that keep me motivated with.
All good! It just takes some time to improve form, but more importantly, it's most likely because you are throwing nose-up. Watch our video called - How to get more distance (to help with this).
If however you do want to get a disc with more distance, try to take a look at some 7 speeds :)
Maybe mine is just an understable run, but the river is definitely a -2 if not -3 turn. It is super flippy
Yeah depends on the run, we tried the disc in the Opto plastic and felt they flew more like they had a 2 fade.
In short, whenever you find a run you like, but a few more! 👍
Really missed Falk... After bad throw didn't found it last summer. K1 plastic is amazing. I used to have river, but it came flippy very quickly🙄
Great video, always cool to see my local courses in videos! Also shout out True North Disc Golf! If you ever want to do a coaching series I know a very bad local who would be down!😁
We are always interested in working with new ideas/people! :) Send us an e-mail anytime 👍
Love my River. Started with it and still in the bag years later.
Love my river
The River was the first disc I purchased after my beginner set and what my friend who introduced me to DG gave me (Pa4, Lep3, Roc, Valkyrie). I started August of '21. The Escape took a lot of throws away from the River and I've found that my longest disc is an Opto Ballista. I have now just discovered the Prodigy F7 (400). That thing can fly... Almost as far as the Ballista even. Check it out.
I agree, the berry is fantastic.
Thanks for the help with those shots Sam :) We'll have to get out to do another video in the near future 👍
Latitude 64 Saint is the best combo of distance and control that I know of. And if you throw hard they made the Saint Pro
I bag both the River and the Falk. I can't recommend Rivers enough...they are my favorite "goto" disc.
Have you every tried a Leopard3 to compare?
@@JustDisc I have a Leopard 3 in Halo plastic. It's good, but its not the River.
Awesome recos!
I think I need to try a river in a base plastic as my premium one is surprisingly overstable. It's good for those smooth 65% forehands but a little too stable for my backhand.
Yeah, we noticed the Opto plastic definitely makes it more overstable. However, they would be ideal for throwing after we’ve broken them in 👍 Just something to think about!
@@JustDisc yeah I just checked I got a Gold Ice. Looks and feels amazing, just a bit too stable for me and it is breaking in extremely slowly. Should have tried a regular Gold or regular Opto maybe.
And to not confuse the average reader, my backhand kinda stinks so maybe the gold ice would be perfect for you, I just need a little more help with getting some turn
River is an amazing disc my go midrange is my lat64 fuse I fell in love right away such a straight disc with good distance
Think I would take a crave over a river everyday
That glide on the River is amazing though 😍
Crave is $$$ I lost my river in a river and never looked back.
Crave is almost as flippy as the river! And I have a fission crave. Finding it hard to justify use of this disc. Thinking about replacing it with a teebird or teebird3 in Star. I used to have a star teebird that was point and shoot. I pointed it and shot it into the pond at Idlewild. Just off the shore in the deep stuff.
*sigh*
Oh, and if you want a teebird that is almost a River, then get the Teebird in Champion plastic. Super-domey, so throw it smooth or else it will flip, too.
I've never thrown Clash discs, but when I had a mixed bag (I've had a MVP/Axiom bag for a bit over a year now), I had the Falk and River as part of my bag. But I lost my first Falk over a wall onto someone's property and never got it back. Then i sent the second one over a wall on another course and it came back chewn up by a dog. So I got the hint....Falk's are awesome discs, but they don't want to be in my bag.
How did you end up liking the River?
@JustDisc I love the River, it's very straight for me, but doesn't work so well in a head wind. I'm also liking the Saint which is a longer River. The Sidewinder is another fave of mine, I have four of them. Today the River has made it back into my bag and I might be putting the Sidewinder back in.
This came at a good time as I have been thinking of trying a Falk and River. I wonder how the Berry would compare to a Hex as the flight numbers are the same
My friend has the Hex and he mentions that it's a bit more overstable, at least to start 👍
Agreed. I have both, and most hexes have less turn than a berry but similar fade resulting in a slightly more stable disc overall. But they're both pretty neutral. In fact, my lighter weight hexes fly just like a berry.
Love the Falk!
It’s a great disc! My friend Max uses it as his go-to distance driver 👍
I m a Rookie and I love my River 😁
Thanks for the feedback! Nice to know a Rookie is loving it 🙌
Spotted my local course at 6:54!
Hope to see you out there some day! 🙌
This is an excellent list. No notes. (I already bag all 3 :-) )
Excellent taste Sean 😉👍
My question: as an older intermediate disc golfer, is it better to carry 7 speeds as a fairway and 9 speeds as distance drivers or since 7 and 9 speeds are both fairway drivers - is that too much overlap?
I carry 3 stabilities of 7 speeds and 3 stabilities of 9 speeds. Would it be better to focus on one or the other?
Hey Paul, loooove this question. Honestly, we don’t think you should ever build a bag or game around speeds. Do what works for you, and screw what anybody else thinks.
Do you get anything additional by having the 9 speed discs, or are they there because you just feel you should have them? Do they get more distance? Do they allow for different shot types that your 7 speeds can not perform? If so, keep ‘em!
Try to think about what each disc is adding to your game. One way to figure this out is to play a round without your 9 speeds, and another without your 7 speeds.
Which gave you better results? During any of your rounds, did you wish you had those missing discs in your bag?
And sometimes, it’s just a mental thing. Does having those discs make you feel like you can play better disc golf? Do you feel like your missing parts of your game without those discs?
Anyways, hope this helps Paul! 👍
@JustDisc it absolutely does. When everything aligns, I can get 20 to 40 feet more out of my Escape over my River. Your recommendation of rounds with one or the other is something I will try.
Some of my discs are in my bag just because they were in my bag for a while. I seem to struggle with: if I have 2 or 3 good shots with a disc, I leave it in even if, more often than not, I don't rely on it continuously.
I want to simplify my bag.
Can you do a "building an intermediate bag" segment sometime? There are tons of beginner and pro bag advice but not much for the intermediate player - especially an intermediate player with lower arm speed.
I feel older intermediate players (many covid DGers) are criminally underserved online.
@paulking0512 If you really like the River, consider trying the L64 Saint....it is considered the 9 speed River (9/7/-1/1).
MVP Rhythm is money
Very money, that and the Relay is absolutely amazing to I bag both and would feel naked without them...in Michigan we have a lot of wooded courses. It's crazy how easily I can hit gaps with either disc
Interesting choices. I laughed out loud when you said "Latitude 64 River" because I bought two in opto plastic and one tree hit later I had one roller disc and one that wouldn't do anything. So, if anyone wants these, let me know. They're very pretty transluscent watermelon color.
For my money; if you wanted to replace both the Berry AND the River, you could just buy an MVP Hex.
Great vid!
Thanks Local 🙏 Keep doing one you are doing as well 👍
what kind of monster throws a stable mid with 4 fingers tucked?
Try a s line dynasty amazing brand new but even better when it’s beat in
We’ll check it out!
I would choose a leopard3 over a river anyday!
Not to nitpick but I think you meant 1 disc round with the Berry and not 1 round disc. 1 round disc either means it's a statement of its shape or you'll only use it for one round and be done with it, whereas a 1 disc round would imply that you will only use 1 disc for that round. Still love the content, I had a river for ages, my buddy had one and beat it understable so this year it's learning to throw rollers.
Yeah, my wife watched the video before releasing and noticed the error as well 🤪 Thanks for clothing either way 👌❤️
GlowFalkFact: a glow Falk glows brighter under a white light. MVP and Innova discs glow brighter under a uv light
Have you tried rpm?
Haven’t yet tried rpm. Do you like their discs?
@@JustDisc the pekapeka is very similar to the falk that you showed in this video. Their plastics are nice
Looks like I need to get me a River! 😂
For sure Michelle!😁 Just so you are aware, whenever Lindsey was throwing a red River, it was 158g in weight 👍
Interesting that they're all Scandinavian discs.🤔
New players may find the Maul more suitable than the River.
No talk of plastics - that matters soooooooo much. Innova, for example, try throwing a DX, G Star and Champion in the same mold -
they are not the same disc at all.
Yes that’s true! We didn’t in this video. However, many of other videos do discuss plastics. We’ll definitely keep it in mind for the next one though! 👍
@@JustDisc what plastics were the discs you were throwing? I just don't want people rushing out and buying a way overstable hard, shiny plastic and just crashing and burning or a hard thrower with a cheap plastic thinking it is unuseably flippy.
It’s strange to claim that 19mm rim is objectively more comfortable 18mm.
Try it yourself! You’ll see :)
The hex over clash berry all day ...buy American people
Prit near!
@@darinladd5312 English please