Staccato P The Best 2011??
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Would like to see you do a comparison of the Staccato P , Walther PDP match and maybe CZ Shadow 2
@iam6466 that won’t be a bad comparison but having shot all of those before, I can say the staccato shoots the nicest with the nicest trigger.
@@HuntFishShootChannel do a review on the cz shadow compact or
Hoping to soon!
For sure what a distraction 👎🏼
Beautiful guns. Your shooting techniques showcase it well while still giving a technical breakdown of all the specifics....great work
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Always a treat when HFS uploads.
Always happy to have you here 💪
0:38 that was a great intro. Never shot one but I love the aesthetics of it.
Thank you!
I have a P and a CS from staccato. They are NOT the best 2011s, by a longshot. I have a TT pit viper, an atlas, and a nighthawk sandhawk. They all have lighter triggers (not necessarily better breaks or reset, just lighter), and the fit, blending, finish, and craftsmanship are miles ahead. That being said, they are competition/niche/art pieces. The Staccato is meant for hard use. Its a duty gun. Its probably the best duty handgun. Ever. I would not carry the other 2011s professionally like I do with my P. I trust it more.
Thanks for sharing! Yeah not the best one, that’s more like a thought intriguing question for the title and video
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Pit viper $7000
Atlas start around $6000
Sandhawk $5600
Staccato P $2500-$3000
For the P to be mentioned with those other pistols says a lot.
Jeez bro, save some for the rest of us… and I mean that with all due respect haha
$1875 if you’re law enforcement for the P. Staccato does offer discounts for military and law enforcement I believe. $3225 for the XC after discounts.
I went Wilson Combat SFX9 and couldn’t be happier
Those are sweet!
Just waiting for STACCATO re release the STACCATO-P range ready package, thanks for.
Hey Mike another awesome review and I loved the background music too… that’s a hot pistol but not sure I can add to my collection, 😂…. Take care bro and stay safe
Hahha right!
Thanks for watching and trust me I know! A friend let us borrow this for a review! I want one now! Stay safe brother 💪
Hey Mike, hope all is well! Another great review and video. That said, I don’t think I would add to my collection….. stay safe brother
Thank you! That’s ok, so many great options out there!
Stay safe to you as well 💪
Maybe one day but for now im in love with my cz shadow 2 compact
That’s good!
I’ve definitely wanted the P since they came out. In a different time, I’d have bought one the first year it’s out and loved it I’m sure. Nowadays I’d have to pick something to sacrifice for one, and I just can’t do that lol. The P is at the top of the want list, but it’s not bad to want something for a bit 😆
Very true! Been there!
Another great video from HFS. I recently bought a second Staccato P gonna trick this one out with V ports, grip work, and cerakote.
Hell yeah! I think I need that XC for no good reason 😂
@@HuntFishShootChannel 😂
By the end of the year goals haha
looking forward to the OA 23II vs Staccato P comparison. Thx for a great video.
I have to agree about the RCR. I have one and the RMR HD. I carried each for about 3 months and I found that the RCR would sometimes print because it is so tall. No issues with the RMR HD.
I would just get the RMR HD or even an SRO over the RCR.
I agree with this 10000 percents the RMR HD is sweet, RCR, not a huge fan.
Ive carried glock 19, sig 365, hellcat osp, czp09, M&P 9 but the Staccato CS Im carrying now is much, much better except for cost. Amazing gun
Awesome!
I just got one too and my opinion it’s a very expensive fidget spinner haha but I love it
Best kind of fidget spinner!
I love the intro! 🔥
Thank you! We do too!
For anyone wondering,
Intro song- Big Bad Boss
Artist- Captain Qubz
Great video. Good music. Enjoy your reviews.
Thanks Chris! Glad you enjoyed it!
I want a C2 with the Tac Grip that is available on EVERY other model Staccato offers, (Staccato are you listening?)!.
However I want RMR’s on all my Shadow Systems guns, so that takes priority.
Excellent review as usual sir.😎✌️
The C is coming soon and will have the tac grip
@@markcromeyer1652 that may be the way I’ll have to go.😎✌️
Tri arch makes the extended slide release. It’s pretty coo. I like it
Good to know
I bought the 1st gen Staccato P and C2 around the pandemic. Unfortunately, now that the pandemic is over, the prices seem to skyrocket. I know you get what you pay for, but I don't have to like the pricing. Great shooting firearm.
For sure!
Great content! Thank you.
Thank you!
CS is great with the ext-extractor and a lot lighter than my Atlas.
We are gonna have to try them!
The forthcoming C has a 4” barrel, all the upgrades of the CS and the choice of 15 or 17 round grip. I just wish they came with a steel frame.
@@milspecmike8440hero grip or Vulcan machine werks will solve that for you! I think I’m going to put the hero on my C2 and then trim the bottom for 120mm mags. Vulcan does incredible work as well and you can’t go wrong either way! Only downside is it’s hard on your wallet but isn’t that why we work!
Staccatos are definitely great guns. Our XC is my wife's favorite gun, and she shoots it like a beast. One thing people may not be aware of is Staccato's Hero Program. It's 10% off for vets, first responders, etc. May even be more for active duty or law enforcement. That's why we went with the XC over the TRS comp. 3,900 vs 5,500. As always, great video.
Yeah it’s 15% for active LE! Thanks for sharing! It’s a great gun for sure thanks for watching! Keep grinding away on your own channel! 💪
@@HuntFishShootChannel Thanks for the info. 15% is a nice chunk off of an expensive gun. Also, thanks for the encouragement. We'll keep grinding.
@The2AExperiment for sure man! It’s all about the grind, it won’t stop either if you want to grow! 💪
Hey brother, nice looking what appears to be a safariland holster. I have a staccato p with RCR and x300u. What model holster do you have? Looks like it'll fit with my settings as well
Not sure the exact model, but the hood does not close with the RCR. There are some holsters out there tho for the Staccato P with a light, again unfortunately I haven’t got a clue without looking.
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We been here! Little over three years now! Our stuff is starting to get recommended more, so that’s a plus. Thanks for watching and being here 🔥🔥🔥
Awesome intro!
Hell yes!
Looking forward to that comparison! Let me know if tou need smelly Walsh to come out with a Bul Tac also! Haha
I need one of those! Along with all
The other buls.
The comparison is really good. Was fun to do.
There is a guy on RUclips that torture tested all the enclosed optics and the RCR is the only one that didn’t see any shift in the dot point of aim.
Good to know 👍
10SASS Actual. He did a very extensive review of enclosed emitters including the acro. Acro was actually damn near the worst. Wish my homies would listen to me on the acro issues but I guess they’ll find out eventually.
I carry the MR920 but am looking into the Platypus.
What should I expect and need to get used to between the 2? Never used a 1911.
Thanks
Not a huge difference other than no creep at the wall or resistance in the trigger and the neutral grip angle is very natural. In addition to that, you must lube them much more, like an AR but they will run dirty.
Staccato is definitely smooth and I like it alot however we are getting to the age of vs vs the cost like a Shadow System and your getting a lot for the money and then we have a Turkish entry with excellent trigger for even less so it really is getting harder to justify the cost , but its all in what you think is best. I personally wouldn't mind having a Staccato in my safe and I have a Wilson so the price stings a lot. So its good we have pistols that are high quality at more middle of the road prices and Shadow brings out a great choice in the competition.
Absolutely! The competition for making affordable 2011s is great!
I agree but my Staccato P shoots so much better than all my other guns and I have some really nice ones
@@Moderndaycowboy74 Staccato is a really nice pistol I've rack the slide and you can get spoiled on that kind of build.
Do you think it makes sense to carry a SA like the CS for off duty ccw then have a striker fire for duty use? Or would it be better to carry the same on and off duty?
Having done that personally I don’t see any issue but that is based off a high level of proficiency with both platforms. The best option would be to carry the same, but as long as you are a proficient shooter with a good skill set and knowledge, it shouldn’t make a difference
@@HuntFishShootChannel Awesome, thanks!
A lighter trigger weight calls for a lighter pull and that does help with accuracy. I will say that.
Yes it can
Was debating between a used p vs a platypus and after firing and handling both it was a no brainer to buy the platypus.
Seems like a great pistol from
What we felt!
Interesting but I’m waiting for the Bul EDC Pro or the Tac Pro this summer.
Gonna have to try them!
Have you noticed any difference in what grain you shot it with? Have one and trying to decide if one is better than. The othwr
Nope not at all. Shoots it all very well!
I'm saving for one would you recommend the 5 inch or the 4 and a quarter?
I recommend the P model!
Watching this is making me miss my Staccato P.
I know the feeling! This was borrowed from a friend to make the video and now I want one!
Why did you get rid of your C2? I love mine. Shoots great, accurate and no malfunctions at this point.
At the time I bought it for review and to try, sold to fund other projects!
@@HuntFishShootChannel 10-4
That bill drill was so fast I couldn’t even see it 😂 next thing i knew it was trigger function showcase
Hahahahah you like that! That was quick, technical difficulties but didn’t want to leave out the talking point
@@HuntFishShootChannel 😂 aye always dope vids tho.
Thanks homie 💪
Agreed!
I know a lot of people will disagree, but the RCR is the best optic you can put on a Staccato P. It look far better in person than photos suggest, but more importantly it’s the perfect balance between durability and usability. The window is perfectly sized. The best thing is always those Trijicon (patented) buttons for the quickest and easiest brightness adjustments. The top load battery is leaps and bounds ahead of the SRO/RMR HD battery change and of course far more secure than the Holosun tray. This thing is awesome on the P.
I respectfully disagree. The window is no better than a regular RMR and the battery change is like an SRO/RMR HD. The top of the housing feels like it’s 10 inches thick when looking through the lens and at the target. Some of that is personal preference no doubt. I think it’s a good optic. One thing about the RCR, the optics mounting screws and how they torque is the strangest thing, but it seems to work. Just hope the screws never seize or get stuck or you will be cutting off the optic with a dremel.
@@HuntFishShootChannel You have valid arguments. I’m planning on leaving mine where it is so hopefully I’ll never have issues with the screws. But I do find the window to be better than the standard RMR and the top thickness doesn’t bother me. Personal preference for sure. I use the RMR HD as well, which is great, but the balance for me between the closed emitter benefits and the ergonomics of the buttons only offered by Trijicon makes me really love it. I guess it depends on priorities. Respect.
@Cortezuma for sure! I certainly see your perspective, thanks for watching, the insight and the chat! 💪
I would like to see a comparison between this and the Platypus, as the Platypus is around $1800 and you can customize the colors.
Yes you can, we will have to get a platypus first so that would be a while
How is the co-witness with the RCR? I have a C2 and want to get one but staccato said I wouldn’t be able to co-witness since the optic sits too high.
Cowitness is good, no issues!
I also have an RCR on a P and cowitness is fine.
Very much looking forward to the email that says mine has shipped. Should only be a few weeks 🙂👍🕺💃🕺💃
That’s awesome!
Dang if the trigger guard is smaller than a Glock that is tiny.
The one I saw in my LGS seemed to have a larger than Glock guard. I like the large size of the P-10C&F trigger guards much better than my Glocks as I have long fingers w/Large size mechanics glove hand
The P10 and Sig ones are definitely larger
All Staccatos ship with 2 mags as of this year. CS and C2, 16rd mags, all others 17rd mags. 👍
Ours was purchased before that change
Literally purchased a new Staccato less than a month ago and it came with two 17rnd mags and one 20rnd mag. The dealer had just gotten them in from Staccato. When is this change actually supposed to happen?
@@danielh1708 every staccato we've purchased from February on has been 2 mags.
@@toomanynamestaken Wow...odd.
@danielh1708 February was when we put in our opening order. They said it dates back to Jan 1. I dunno.
Are you in Michigan? From there originally and sure looks like it
Northeast Ohio
New 🍺🍻 game: drink every time a Staccato owner racks his slide for no reason. 😂😜 On a serious note great info and vid. 👍
Thank you! It’s so hard not to
@@HuntFishShootChannel like butter! 🤣
I have a little play in my slide to frame fit side to side but none up and down
Yeah that’s no issue, this one doesn’t but that’s possible for you! As long as it runs like it should and shoots like a Staccato, let it eat!
Oh yeah bro she runs like a scolded ass ape
I would like to see a review on the Live Free Armory 2011.
We would too!
That is an outstanding pistol it's a little Rich for my blood but it's still a sweet shooter 😁👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
For sure! It’s a pricey one but could be worth it depending on someone’s budget!
That against that 2311 is going to be a great video 😁👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@davidcleveland9815 it will be out Friday!
my czp09 is so solid. just dont have the money for the Staccoto
That’s ok! Enjoy and be proficient with what you have
Why did you get rid of the C2?
Bought it to test and review and carried for a year, sold it to fund other projects for our channel when it was in its infancy
My humble opinion is the Staccato best gun on the market… I’ll speak for my staccato P X, it’s as reliable as my Glocks, and nearly as fast and flat as an Atlas.. so for me it’s the best of both worlds. I also think it’s the best looking gun out there.
They are sweet pistols for sure!
Maybe an XC comparison to atlas but still not as good
What holster are you using with the Stacatto P DPO?
It’s a safariland for the Staccato P
By chance, can you tell us the SKU for the holster…?
I don’t know that but a simple google search for Safariland Staccato P holster will yield the results you are looking for!
Great reviews…I appreciate the content..!!
@davidbanner1652 thank you. 💪
Probably 🔝 production, hard, duty use 2011 no question. More reliable in adverse conditions and with cheap regular range ammunition than anything else out there. Your Atlases, Nighthawks, ACWs, and all other higher end custom or semi custom builds that are super tight will not give you the reliability of a Staccato.
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Did you fail the Bill drill?
Fail? Failing the bill drill is a subjective matter and depends on standards for the individual, but based off the general concept of it, no I didn’t.
💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾Nice!
Hell yeah 💪
Staccato P, the gun to get if you can’t afford (or locate) a Nighthawk Sandhawk. 😂
2011’s, 2311’s, and to be honest (shockingly to me now), 1911’s, just aren’t my thing. I ran 1911’s from the 80’s into the new millennium. I kept 1 for sentimental reasons. I run an FNX45T as a “battle” pistol, and have about 1 gun for every scenario. That means, there’s no functional role for me to put a Staccato or a Nighthawk. They shoot phenomenally smooth, flat, accurate, and comfortable. As for optics, RMR2 ADJ 3.25 for life! lol
So, which did you prefer, the oracle or the Staccato P? 😬
Just you wait until next week when we drop the head to head video!
@@HuntFishShootChannel Yes sir!
CZ shadow night and day better. In fact I couldn’t shoot the staccato any better than a Glock 17. If there was any difference it was split times as there was slightly less felt recoil mainly due to the weight, Which only confirmed to me that money doesn’t buy you accuracy or proficiency. I’ll be keeping my Glock.
I just got a cz shadow 2 few weeks ago. It is phenomenal compared to any 9mm I have ever tried. The only company I haven’t tried is Walter. Polymer frames ain’t me honestly. Love my beretta and cz. I’d buy a staccato but I can buy 2 of the cz and ammo for the one I’d like to buy. $2400 for a 9mm pistol is above my pay grade
Thanks for sharing your experience and thoughts
What rain jacket is that?
It’s not a rain jacket. But it’s a Vertx integrity P
Nope! Infinity has the king spot, with atlas following behind as prince... but staccato would definitely be a kick ass duke!
Those are no doubt higher class pistols, staccato just has the cake for a duty built one!
@@HuntFishShootChannel totally, for a duty pistol they're top of the stack. And the xc is a great candidate for a flex pistol to carry & compete with.
Why didnt you include the Stealth Arms Platypus?
Couldn’t get one. Even called them to see if we could work something out.
A visual and some talking points on how flat the gun shoots without the flashlight would have been helpful. I’m sure there are tons of casual plinkers out there that don’t run lights in the daytime or in well lit indoor ranges.
Review the tisas mac9 ds
Trying to get one!
Best Production 2011, maybe? But what about a Bul Armory or Triarc TR11 production 2011’s
Triarc has quite the bad reputation but the bul stuff is 🔥
@@HuntFishShootChannel Thanks for the response. I have the Triarc TR11 special edition with about 500rds (just got it) through it, and I’m very impressed so far, but that my change if it begins to give me problems
If you value craftmanship, any firearm you admire is worth it. But, don't buy a high price pistol thinking it will make you shoot better. Only way you will shoot better is by practicing and thats with any pistol.
All true!
Honestly as a firearms instructor I guess I’m never supposed to say this…. but sorry man this does make you shoot better. The paper don’t lie. Same shooter doing the same thing on a stock Glock vs this, the holes are gonna be better on this for the vast majority of shooters and thus many people will “shoot better” simply because of the gun.
The skillset must be there but a highly proficient shooter can be better with a 2011, in particular, speed.
Got my staccato P yesterday!
Awesome!
Not even close!!! They are the off the shelve brand, when there’s 2011’s out there like the Fowler Vanta9 that will blow your mind
That costs twice as much, a better 2011 for the money does not exist. You have to ask yourself, does the Fowler Vanta 9 shoot twice as good? Great pistol and it’s better no doubt, but utilize objective reasonableness
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i could almost hear the music. Maybe a bit louder for the next vid
Got it thanks
New!!!
The P over the XC ???
No lol 😂
😂 my bad lol
staccato p is a great 2011 but i wouldn't say its overall the best. its best in something I'm sure but there's plenty of much flatter shooting 2011's. i think it just falls under best for the cost
It is good and you are right there are better guns
It is the ONLY 2011. Because they trademarked the 2011 name
Sure 👍
Yes, people don't respect their trademark and keep using 2011 interchangeable. You are right it is the only 2011. Everything else is a DS 1911 period. Like it or not.
I love the P its my duty gun
BUT i will never pay that much money for a hand gun again I dont really see the point
Yeah it’s a lot of money! Thanks for watching!
Hm I’d have to disagree with the title. Atlas Gunworks outshines Staccato in my opinion. Yes Staccato is a great firearm but there are better options out there.
That’s ok! The title is thought provoking and that was the purpose!
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Has nobody heard of an Infiniti 2011 or an atlas 2011??
Yes…
I am blessed to have several amazing guns and my staccato P is at the top of the class!!!!
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rack that slide one more time......
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Staccato's are entery level 2011's
Not with all the newcomers but middle of the road now
Racks like butter 🤤🤤🤤
For sure!
It’s a Glock. People have got to stop being poor!!
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Hell yeah you should! That bacon egg cheese sammich on Texas toast and some hash browns scattered and covered will
Get you right right with the lord
1/4 of inch take-up is ALOT!!.
No it’s not and that’s an estimate
$1.45 per 9mm shot no thank you head over to freedom ammunition and get it for .25 cents a round with free shipping.
The TUI is defensive ammo, so of course it’s going to be priced higher. They also sell bulk range ammo which is closer to what you are comparing to with Freedom.
Can you stop the crappy (any) background music. I’d rather hear what you have to say and the sound of gunfire…
You can hear that stuff just fine, but thanks for the input.
@@HuntFishShootChannelDon’t know what you are listening on but you can’t hear much of what you are saying at the beginning of the video. 🤷🏻♂️
@matthewbarry2191 head phones and speakers
@matthewbarry2191 thanks for the input
Yeah, was a little strong, but maybe talk after.
Can’t hear you
Is your volume on
@@HuntFishShootChannel yes, all it heard was intro music
@WoodrowWoods2007 for thee 20 second intro?
@@HuntFishShootChannel yeah, took me a second to even hear that you were talking, didn’t know if it was just b-roll material or if you were actually doing the video at that point. Couldn’t make it out either way
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atlas or nh sh1Ts over staccato
Sure
$2500 POS
You seem very negative. Glad we are entitled to our own opinions! 💪
@@HuntFishShootChannel Your opinion on your sample size of 1 doesn’t outweigh the facts brother. Let’s be real, Staccato’s are notoriously finicky. failure to feed, failure to slide lock, mags issues , springs need constant upkeep. it’s an extremely high maintenance pistol that you can never run dirty…so yeah, at $2500 it earns the title of POS.
Not a sample size of one tho….this review is of this one gun. You assume this is the only staccato I have had access to.
Again we are all entitled to our own opinions.
You can run it dirty, very dirty in fact.
@@jlo8775 I and many others have never had any issues with staccatos. No high maintenance needed, and it’s been very reliable.
No lol there are better double stacks for sure.
There sure is 👍
clicked off as soon as you told me what "i need to do"
Great! 🫣
Had a Staccato P, traded it for a Platypus. Never looked back
Awesome!
Are they good? Yes. Are they dependable? Yep! Do they look good as well, You bet. Are they the best 2011 yes, but there is a catch. They trademarked the moniker 2011 so they are the only one that can be legally called a 2011 so by default they are the best 2011. Are there better of this type? Yep, lots! But they cost more as well. A LOT More!!!
Better= SVT, Atlas, Alchemy, Nighthawk, Wilson Combat, on and on. The SVT, Atlas and Alchemy are true hard fit by hand guns. Staccato cannot touch their accuracy and smoothness. Compared to them they are rough as a gravel road.
And yes, I own Staccatos. They are extremely competent for a production gun. Impressive for what they are as production guns even if they do have a premium price.
I also have an older Les Baer TRS (single stack and hard fit), which cost less than a Staccato but it is light years ahead of the Staccato products in both fit smoothness and accuracy. It came with the 1 1/2" at 50 yard guarantee and proves it! In writing and on the bench. Superb.
KnifeMaker
All great points! Thanks for watching!
@@HuntFishShootChannel Appreciated, KnifeMaker/Retired after over 47+ years in the Craft.
Ahhh yes staccato....the pistol that makes men feel like they bought something worth a dam 😂
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