That sucks I would contact staccato sounds like something might be wrong but me personally I have put 3k rounds through my P and 1500 through my C2 splitting 300 rounds of hst federal 124 and Hornady critical defense between the both of them with no malfunctions or failures to me this platform requires a little more maintenance but there just as reliable as my g45 or p365 hope you can figure it out if any issues it’s an amazing gun
30 year Leo retired here. Have the P(did the hero’s program) and have about 3000 rounds through my P and zero issues. I did notice that my support hand thumb rides high due to the high bore axis and I determined I was riding the slide with my thumb causing the slide not to lock back. Staccato mags are known for their issue but staccato will make them right if you send them back. I have been lucky with no issues with the Dawson plate with my SRO.
Staccato C2, no issue, ~ 2000 rounds. I recently switched from 509T to Trijicon RCR, and I noticed the 509T damson plate was a bit loose when I was making the switch.
Got to love the law enforcement discount of 15% and they even give you 4 extra mags ( 6 total mags for law enforcement) for free! I am ordering mine next week and am paying the extra for them to lighten the trigger down to 3lbs.
So far 500 rounds in and no hiccups except one of my mags has a stuck follower. Fired 8 rounds and then click nothing, pulled slide back and there wasn’t anything in the chamber, dropped mag and could see the follower wasn’t moving up. Looked like a couple of rounds just stuck side by side and wedged themselves tight. Sent a photo to Staccato and they immediately responded back that they would send me a replacement mag. Custom support is second to none so far but the finicky mag is concerning. I was able to clear the jam by taking a socket extension and pushing down on the stuck rounds and released the wedge. These are 3rd gen Staccato mags.
I too have had magazine issues.. they are under sprung. Atlas Gun Works sells a better spring and follower for around 112-12 Bucks IIRC and it cures the top round from launching out of the mag. Mine has a habit of launching the first round when I remove the mag from the gun. GRRRRRR!!! can't believe they have not addressed this known issue as it has been an issue for quite some time. I need to cure this. the top of the hammer where it rides the slide is also getting badly worn. It acts like a typical soft MIM Part which is supposedly is not supposed to be. I will say in shooting I've never had a single malfunction other than failure to lock back on empty chamber. That could very well be me riding the slide release though. KnifeMaker/Retired after over 47+ year in the Craft
I have three Staccato’s with no,issues. I’d run this past customer service , and yeah I agree that’s not acceptable especially from a LOE perspective, thx for the feedback.
@@MMTB2011 yeah I ended up sending it back and they did a few things to it. Only 150 rounds since repair but it seems to have worked out the issue. Gonna put a few hundred more through it and eventually do a follow up video.
I'm coming from just having watched your 2011 v. striker gun video. Watching this is making me think this is probably the realistic ownership experience of the average staccato owner, and you're basically saying the quiet part out loud. Thank you for your insight.
Also just curious, did you guys that have had issues all order your guns around the same time? Maybe bad batch? Or what has staccato said is the issue. Again not discrediting anything you’ve said, just curious and want to know what to lookout for! I can’t run one for duty, but I actually edc one and instruct classes with mine! I have 4,000 rounds through mine
Yeah we all ordered around the same time. One theory is that we ordered right around the time they switched facilities (their new building) so maybe that had an effect. Of the ones that were RMA’d, one had its barrel link replaced, and another had the feed ramp contoured.
I’ve been very fortunate with my Staccatos. I’d definitely send it in for evaluation if I had the issues you’re having. It’s frustrating for sure, but I’ve spent more money on guns that performed far worse. If/ when you get it resolved, I hope you make another video telling us what they found the issue to be.
I have considered purchasing the Staccato P for duty several times, but each time, I get reluctant due to the cost and the issues that I hear about it. It's always good to hear from someone who is LEO. Our number one condition for duty use is reliability. If it cannot be 100% reliable, then spending $2600 (after the police discount) is not worth it. Currently, I am using Glock 17, with a modified 4lb trigger (from Johnny Glock), and it works so much better than the stock Glock. I am still not sure if I should replace it with Staccato P.
I ended up sending it back for repair and since it has returned I’ve had 200 rounds over two range sessions without any issues. Hopefully that’ll continue, but I’m still a little iffy on carrying it on duty. Hard to beat the light weight, reliability, and shootability of Glocks, but the desire to try new stuff is hard to ignore sometimes.
Glock has its place. But 2011’s really does need to be treated like a sports car. Cant be dry and mags need more tuning/maintenance. Also staccato mags are notorious for being under-sprung.
I considered a Staccato P but the price point was a reach for me. My first 2011 (ish) was a SA Prodigy and it was utter trash Then I got a Bul Armory SAS Tac 2 - 1400 flawless rounds with JHP or FMJ - it’s head for cerakotubg and gave the barrel cut flush and crowned (I scratched the slide learning to put it back together) My 3 rd is the Jacob Grey TWc-9 that hasn’t arrived yet I’ll get the Staccato P for Xmas
Yeah the price makes the issues hurt more for sure. It's still a nice pistol, don't get me wrong. The way I kind of see it now is that if you have some extra money and want something cool, go for it. If you want a dead nuts reliable duty gun, maybe this isn't it. Lots of people claim to have none of these issues though, so your mileage may vary.
@@MagDumpGunsI don’t have the P I have a cs - 3k + rounds down range in the past year and 0 malfunctions. Never a jam, malfunction, not even so much as a light primer strike. Sounds like you got a bad model but I’ve heard staccato has the best customer service
@@Alexonthetube yeah not trying to discredit those who have good pistols, and there seem to be a lot of them, I just saw a bigger percentage have failures than I am comfortable with. They do seem to be good about fixing any problems though.
So you’re in law enforcement and have only put 1300 rounds down the pipe in 6-7 months? Yeah this is what’s wrong with LE training. You should be running 500 or more rounds every month.
This is not my duty weapon as I explained in the video. Those rounds were to vet the platform to see if I trusted it for duty use or not. Since it’s not the subject of this video, I did not outline how many rounds I shoot per month through my duty pistol. Thanks for your concern though.
Sounds nice but doesn’t happen unless you’re buying your own ammo or part of a SWAT/SRT team. Most agencies don’t have unlimited ammo for every officer or even 500 rounds a month
That sucks I would contact staccato sounds like something might be wrong but me personally I have put 3k rounds through my P and 1500 through my C2 splitting 300 rounds of hst federal 124 and Hornady critical defense between the both of them with no malfunctions or failures to me this platform requires a little more maintenance but there just as reliable as my g45 or p365 hope you can figure it out if any issues it’s an amazing gun
Yeah that seems to be almost all I hear with the exception of high round count (15-20k and up) samples needing a lot of parts replaced.
30 year Leo retired here. Have the P(did the hero’s program) and have about 3000 rounds through my P and zero issues. I did notice that my support hand thumb rides high due to the high bore axis and I determined I was riding the slide with my thumb causing the slide not to lock back. Staccato mags are known for their issue but staccato will make them right if you send them back. I have been lucky with no issues with the Dawson plate with my SRO.
Staccato C2, no issue, ~ 2000 rounds. I recently switched from 509T to Trijicon RCR, and I noticed the 509T damson plate was a bit loose when I was making the switch.
Seems to be a common issue with these. I’m thinking about switching the optic just because of the funkiness with this plate.
Got to love the law enforcement discount of 15% and they even give you 4 extra mags ( 6 total mags for law enforcement) for free! I am ordering mine next week and am paying the extra for them to lighten the trigger down to 3lbs.
So far 500 rounds in and no hiccups except one of my mags has a stuck follower. Fired 8 rounds and then click nothing, pulled slide back and there wasn’t anything in the chamber, dropped mag and could see the follower wasn’t moving up. Looked like a couple of rounds just stuck side by side and wedged themselves tight.
Sent a photo to Staccato and they immediately responded back that they would send me a replacement mag. Custom support is second to none so far but the finicky mag is concerning.
I was able to clear the jam by taking a socket extension and pushing down on the stuck rounds and released the wedge. These are 3rd gen Staccato mags.
Thanks for sharing! The mags definitely seem to be the weak link of the system.
I too have had magazine issues.. they are under sprung. Atlas Gun Works sells a better spring and follower for around 112-12 Bucks IIRC and it cures the top round from launching out of the mag. Mine has a habit of launching the first round when I remove the mag from the gun. GRRRRRR!!! can't believe they have not addressed this known issue as it has been an issue for quite some time.
I need to cure this.
the top of the hammer where it rides the slide is also getting badly worn. It acts like a typical soft MIM Part which is supposedly is not supposed to be. I will say in shooting I've never had a single malfunction other than failure to lock back on empty chamber. That could very well be me riding the slide release though.
KnifeMaker/Retired after over 47+ year in the Craft
I have three Staccato’s with no,issues. I’d run this past customer service , and yeah I agree that’s not acceptable especially from a LOE perspective, thx for the feedback.
@@MMTB2011 yeah I ended up sending it back and they did a few things to it. Only 150 rounds since repair but it seems to have worked out the issue. Gonna put a few hundred more through it and eventually do a follow up video.
I'm coming from just having watched your 2011 v. striker gun video. Watching this is making me think this is probably the realistic ownership experience of the average staccato owner, and you're basically saying the quiet part out loud.
Thank you for your insight.
I’ve definitely been around others with a little bit better luck, but I do think there has to be some realistic expectations with these.
Also just curious, did you guys that have had issues all order your guns around the same time? Maybe bad batch? Or what has staccato said is the issue. Again not discrediting anything you’ve said, just curious and want to know what to lookout for! I can’t run one for duty, but I actually edc one and instruct classes with mine! I have 4,000 rounds through mine
Yeah we all ordered around the same time. One theory is that we ordered right around the time they switched facilities (their new building) so maybe that had an effect. Of the ones that were RMA’d, one had its barrel link replaced, and another had the feed ramp contoured.
@@MagDumpGuns interesting thanks for the reply
I’ve been very fortunate with my Staccatos. I’d definitely send it in for evaluation if I had the issues you’re having. It’s frustrating for sure, but I’ve spent more money on guns that performed far worse.
If/ when you get it resolved, I hope you make another video telling us what they found the issue to be.
I have considered purchasing the Staccato P for duty several times, but each time, I get reluctant due to the cost and the issues that I hear about it. It's always good to hear from someone who is LEO. Our number one condition for duty use is reliability. If it cannot be 100% reliable, then spending $2600 (after the police discount) is not worth it. Currently, I am using Glock 17, with a modified 4lb trigger (from Johnny Glock), and it works so much better than the stock Glock. I am still not sure if I should replace it with Staccato P.
I ended up sending it back for repair and since it has returned I’ve had 200 rounds over two range sessions without any issues. Hopefully that’ll continue, but I’m still a little iffy on carrying it on duty. Hard to beat the light weight, reliability, and shootability of Glocks, but the desire to try new stuff is hard to ignore sometimes.
Just curious, what duty ammo do you shoot?
Winchester Ranger 124 +p
I just got mine 2 weeks ago, haven't fired it yet. fingers crossed.
Based on internet reviews, the odds are in your favor of getting a good one!
Glock has its place. But 2011’s really does need to be treated like a sports car. Cant be dry and mags need more tuning/maintenance. Also staccato mags are notorious for being under-sprung.
Damn I’m sorry man but I’ve never had that issue at all
So what is the serial number range of this batch of P’s?
I considered a Staccato P but the price point was a reach for me.
My first 2011 (ish) was a SA Prodigy and it was utter trash
Then I got a Bul Armory SAS Tac 2 - 1400 flawless rounds with JHP or FMJ - it’s head for cerakotubg and gave the barrel cut flush and crowned (I scratched the slide learning to put it back together)
My 3 rd is the Jacob Grey TWc-9 that hasn’t arrived yet
I’ll get the Staccato P for Xmas
My CS 2024 900 flawless rounds so far.
Thanks for the honest video. I was thinking about buying that gun tomorrow but now absolutely no way I’m spending that much money on unreliable gun.
Yeah the price makes the issues hurt more for sure. It's still a nice pistol, don't get me wrong. The way I kind of see it now is that if you have some extra money and want something cool, go for it. If you want a dead nuts reliable duty gun, maybe this isn't it. Lots of people claim to have none of these issues though, so your mileage may vary.
@@MagDumpGunsI don’t have the P I have a cs - 3k + rounds down range in the past year and 0 malfunctions. Never a jam, malfunction, not even so much as a light primer strike. Sounds like you got a bad model but I’ve heard staccato has the best customer service
@@Alexonthetube yeah not trying to discredit those who have good pistols, and there seem to be a lot of them, I just saw a bigger percentage have failures than I am comfortable with. They do seem to be good about fixing any problems though.
I appreciate the honesty. Sub earned!
Nice Channel!
Glock ftw 🙌
What exact ammo my man
Ima run it in mine
@@Michiganbreadboyz_bt8919 Winchester Ranger 124 +p
@@MagDumpGuns thanks brother. Have u tried polishing the feed ramp by chance?
Thats sucks man stick with glock. I would also look at the walther pdp dont know if that pistol is allowed at your agency.
Man you just saying that because have a staccato just say you can't afford a atlas, nighthawk
So you’re in law enforcement and have only put 1300 rounds down the pipe in 6-7 months? Yeah this is what’s wrong with LE training. You should be running 500 or more rounds every month.
This is not my duty weapon as I explained in the video. Those rounds were to vet the platform to see if I trusted it for duty use or not. Since it’s not the subject of this video, I did not outline how many rounds I shoot per month through my duty pistol. Thanks for your concern though.
Sounds nice but doesn’t happen unless you’re buying your own ammo or part of a SWAT/SRT team. Most agencies don’t have unlimited ammo for every officer or even 500 rounds a month
Ive heard Prodigy mags work with P.