The Man Who Will Be King: A Conversation with Graeme Wood (Episode
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- In this episode of the podcast, Sam Harris speaks to Graeme Wood about Muhammed bin Salman, the crown prince of Saudi Arabia. They discuss the murder of Jamal Khashoggi, the imprisonment of Saudi elites in the Ritz Carlton, the Vision 2030 campaign, relations with Israel, the posture of the Biden administration, energy policy, Saudi efforts to deprogram jihadists, the strange case of Musa Cerantonio, John Walker Lindh, the current condition of ISIS, the war in Ukraine, Russian propaganda, how Finland has made itself invasion-proof, and other topics.
Graeme Wood is a national correspondent for The Atlantic. He has written for The New Yorker, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, and many other publications. He was the 2014-2015 Edward R. Murrow Press Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, and he teaches in the political science department at Yale University. He is the author of The Way of the Strangers: Encounters with the Islamic State.
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Released: April 12, 2022
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Graeme really seems to go very deeply into his research. I’m impressed with his pronunciation of Arabic letters as well which he would have had no reason to do except to be as studious as possible. Living here, he also has a very good knowledge of the desire of the people. Really excellent interview
I live next to Saudia Arabia in Jordan. I can guarantee you that what MBS did in 3 years of modernizing Saudia Arabia and fighting extremists the most optimistic ones did not expect it to be done in 100 years in Saudia Arabia
The part where he talks about Saudis working for the first time is so true. In the area of modern healthcare, it was quite a dangerous and frustrating experience.
Actually, for decades the healthcare system is operated by Saudis, that’s not something new. And I think it’s efficient, specially in the major cities. But I think it depends on which hospital. If you had a bad experience you can contact ministry of health, I find them responsive.
@@adelalharbi4420 quit lying bro
@@lnAmberClad he is not lying, Saudi Arabia health care systems is of similar quality to the U.S. and is ran almost entirely by Saudis for decades. I experienced both at length. I think what would reflect what Wood is saying here about the Saudis work ethics or efficiency is mostly the service industry.
@@lnAmberClad we have free healthcare and school and university that pay us monthly salary whicl like 300 dallor something Americans will not understand I belive in usa you get free healthcare if you like 2 to 10 years and want to transgender isn't that sick your kids think that way and USA allows these kid of butchering surgeries
Best meditation session thus far - 10/10
The best one for sleep in a while. Almost as good as Level1techs server motherboard reviews! That stuff will cut through your insomnia and put you to sleep!
Look for the one who is looking...
...before he finds you and you never leave the embassy.
How do i access the full version of this on RUclips? I paid for a subscription, but theres no access to this episode. The episodes only go back 11 months and when i search for it it doesnt appear
Is there no audio?
Yes, there is.
Only silence during yesterday's attempt. It's working fine now. Beats me
When describing the prince beginning at 7:37, I think of a Twilight Zone called _It's a Good Life_ where a boy (Billy Mumy) has the magical powers of magically sending people into a distant location or changing them into objects, just by thinking it.
Maybe THE best TZ episode!
I remember that.
@@r.p.mcmurphy6623 It was a good one but I would give the nod to "The Invaders" and also "Eye Of the Beholder".
mr wood is an excellent writer
I listened on the podcast and came here to read the comments.
I came here to read the comments and then listen to the podcast while going for a walk, lol.
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Another brilliant episode.
Newcastle fans must be loving this!
The Phil Collins thing was a major red flag, imo.
It's amazing to me how people focus on stuff like "he imprisoned this activist" or "he killed this journalist" or whatever; _he's a tyrannical autocrat._ Every single person living in Saudi Arabia is having their human rights abused every second of every day, on every possible level. The scope of his crimes against humanity can't be fully tallied.
People understand this whenever they think about Louis XVI or George III, but when we talk about MBS people's brain just switch off and they can't make the obvious comparison.
Teth do dyrants.
This is total bullshit lmaooo relax or you'll have another Saddam situation. Fucking western propaganda.
I think the problem is that this realization is not really actionable. The only options available are pretty much to ignore him, to work with him, or to invade the country, and out of these three options, working with him seems like the best option by far - for now at least.
@@highdefinist9697 Yes this seems to be the challenge. Similar to the situation in North Korea, which is an incredibly frustrating and tragic situation that has no easy solutions.
true, but how much of it is his fault? didn't he inherit such a state which was already doing these things, perhaps he's attempting to reform many of these systems. Or he's the devil who knows
Exactly.
That was a very interesting talk. The silence was insightful.
Right
As a Finn, i'm happy to be part of the defense forces that would be needed to protect our nation in case of Russian aggression, cool to hear you talk about it.
Massey Ferguson or John Deere?
Yay it’s now working for me
do we have to subscribe for the audio?
I was expecting this to be a lot more nuanced and go a lot more in depth into Saudi Arabia. Clearly both men have a good understanding of Geopolitics and the major themes currently in the Middle East, but there's no shortage of discussion and information on that. There is little to no in depth and objective discussion about what MBS is doing and what is really happening in the Kingdom. Yes there is an abundance of criticism, but that is nothing more than low hanging fruit in the journalists' garden.
Perhaps there is simply no particularly reliable source, because the kingdom is so closed-up. Perhaps not as extreme as North Korea, but similar to Russia or China, where there is also much we don't really know.
Because he's not anti-western and is trying to reform islam, so he's no longer seen as a "brown skinned islamist oppressed by the evil white West". Instead, he's now joinning the oppressor class. This is why western islamoleftists all hate him.
Sam, Your upload seems broken? “No stream, tap to retry”
It’s a RUclips glitch
12 dollars for 2-3 episodes a month is a little bit hard to swallow
So learn to open your throat more when you chug syrup like in Suoer Troopers
One thing I came across recently was the plan for a new type of city. I think it was called Neom, and it is being built in the north west of Saudi Arabia. It is a new concept of a linear city. As I researched this, at least the basic ideas sound fascinating. If we look at how cities have been built throughout history they always center around the older historic parts in a radial plan, or they are gridded out like NYC, but when you think of what our technological expertise is and what is needed in the future, mass transit that can get you somewhere fast, efficiently and carbon-free, this linear model really works. Seems like it would be great also for the environment where you could have pass-throughs, pass-overs, or pass-unders for wildlife to move though instead of what we have today which is giant scars on the land. Saudi Arabis is the last country on the planet I'd like to see develop the lifestyle of the future, but from what I read, this is a fascinating concept ... and it is one being developed by MBS, damn his murderous soul.
It's in the North West, at the strait of the gulf of Aqaba, close to Jordan.
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Oh, yeah, my other east ... thanks, edited.
Interesting but you can rarely remake the wheel. I’d be curious what urban planners have to say about that, and by all means, try that shit out. Not like there’s anyone to hold him accountable if it’s a giant waste of money.
Then again, the reason cities are built like that is generally because they are formed over long periods of time, not planned out. Though, I don’t how easy it is to artificially construct a city from scratch, considering there are major housing issues in many cities by resulting from their high concentration of opportunity. If you can spread out opportunity, many of those housing issues disappear.
China I imagine has made similar types of top-down cities.
Yes 100% sustainable however you’d like to define that, the plans are quite extraordinary. I don’t know if they’ll get it done in time. Though it is all quite possible with the openness they have to western know-how and integration. “The Line” is this project you’re referring to I believe. One of a few satellite projects to NEOM. A floating city and ski resort are two new additions to the concept. Thanks for the insight in your comment.
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Cities become just massive scars over the land where nothing can pass through and nothing to survive. They do not scale, just get bigger and worse. That was acceptable because there was no way to get from A to B in the past. First it was walking, then horses, then carriages, then cars, buses, etc. Now we have trains and monorails, and tubes and what not and they can just grow from both ends, even at a more predictable rate. It's like when cities grew up, but that could be done without blocking light. Intuitively I like the idea. Hopefully the Saudis can do it right.
Caligula and Commodus started off with good policies too...
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I tried to figure out what the hell was wrong with my earbuds for 2 whole minutes before checking the comments. 😑
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I think there’s something in that for all of us.
Obviously someone got to Sam and said don’t publish that material or you will get Kashoggicide!
😳
Yeah, I can't hear it either.
When the oil runs out (and that is nearer than people think) all these desert tyrants will be dealt with.
Ok, keyboard tyrant.
You are aware that they are now using the oil money to diversify their economy?meaning in about 20 years they won't be overly reliant on oil.
@@collydub1987 Unfortunately for them to really survive they would need productive population which is far more important and robust than just having assets around the world. If having assets would have been enough for economy UK would have been the richest country of the world.
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great
No stream…..😭
Audio works fine for me.
Americans self-righteously commenting on another country's extent of executions... 🤔
At least we give our condemned every opportunity to die of natural causes
Sam please try to get that interview/discussion between these two Islamists (one now ex Islamist). That podcast would be dynamite.
Getting Islamists in any discussion is certainly dynamite. A truly explosive idea!
I couldn’t think of a worse mistake as to let alcohol into a society that doesn’t have it. It’s like letting everyone and their brother have a gun🤔 ❤️🌎✌🏼
Oh dont worry about that i used to see the saudis drunk all over Bahrain, they like to go elsewhere to do their drinking and yes they are HORRIBLE drunks even more obnoxious than when they’re sober.
Saudis have been drinking a home brew called Abu Zanouba for eons. Alcohol and Hash are way more prevalent in the Kingdom than you'd think.
If people want to do something, they will do it regardless
MBS muted this video 🤣🤣
I wish you didn't cut out the part at the end..
0:10 That's the rule.
Sam _sometimes_ publishes full Episodes he absolutely deems too important to put behind a paywall, which happened more frequently lately.
However, if you can't afford a membership, Sam actually has a policy that you can contract his team, and they'll unlock the full content for you at a discount or even for free. So nobody is really locked out of hearing the full conversation.
@@LinkEX this has been bullshit for a whole year now.
@@LinkEX seems like a shitty buisness model lol. He essentially guarantees that you can watch his best content for free and if you want you can pay for the not so good episodes.
@@Laocoon283 It might not be the best from a traditional marketing perspective. But I think it's an interesting trust-based model.
It makes sure that those who are convinced by the content will keep supporting Sam, while those who can't afford it aren't locked out.
Did you ask him why he slaughterred 81 men in one day?
81 men guilty of terrorism*
They will suffer Dutch disease- an economic term where countries with significant raw resources dont develop their economy, and once that resource dries up(oil in this case) they do quite poorly. That said I'd imagine they are investing in their future. I'd hope. I'm curious to what degree. If anyone knows plz respond. Thanks
Difficult -To Be A King ….Must “ Know “-😂It’s Circle and Still Stay Powerful …..🌞
"He is the son of his father"
Brilliant phrase buddy 🤣
Phil Collins does not immunize you against becoming Satan.
Haha yeah that bit made me think twice
I mean that's why he's in the position he's in. The phrase is good imo
Now now,
daddys boy
Everytime I see MBS, I think of eating cornflakes out on the farm!
with strawberry jam on toast?
fixed :)
"Ain't Gonna Play Sun City" or Saudi Arabia
what are they doing to those prisoners?
Jarod....bloody rotten money.
Doesn’t work in sweden
MbS might be the best that happened to the Saudi Arabia for millenia, at least from the western perspective.
With no audio, is Sam trying to send a subliminal message? 💀
a meditation perhaps :)
There is audio, what're you talking about.
@@maxgregorycompositions6216 I think they updated it
Fyi many of the US ex cia and nsa operatives consult to this country.. you would think there would some law against using all those skills and information to provide to another country.. especially one like saudis..
To be fair, "not in the list of top 1000 people I'd want to kill" sounds like something I'd say.
Haha relateable
Sounds like you are the problem there.
Small difference of power dynamics Justin lol
Am I the first to say that the Saudi prince guy looks like a healthier, better looking version of Brian Redban?
Wow holy shit you're right!
Yay people see what I see I’m not crazy lol
Oh my god that’s so perfectly true and so random. I never thought I’d see someone in the SH comment section who knows who Brian Redban is lol nice 😆
He has risen!
Is this really "Making Sense" podcast or Making Money podcast?
Get rid of this subscription and let us hear what you think for God's sake!
Dubai is a grotesque caricature of modernity
One of the fakest places created anywhere on earth
Saudi Arabia is not Dubai.
@@thehereticalinvestigation One of the takeaways of the podcast episode from wood's interview with MBS being MBS's intention to develop KSA in dubai's model
@@pavanpyda facts and opinions. Fact: Dubai is a success model for transitioning from oil income to tourism and investment. Opinion: you think it’s a grotesque city. Your onion doesn’t change the fact.
@@user-qx9zn2cj4e Fact : The transition came at a cost of south asian labour exploitation and questionable human rights record. Fact : Despite the opportunity to make a environmentally sustainable development they chose cosmetic infrastructure building
Talking down to Saudi quality of work and reforms is very offensive, then going to ur need to get rid of Saudi oil shows how much u despise them. So why bother calling for a regime change! Unless u have destructive & malice intent.
It's not "talking down", it's just pointing out that Saudis suck at everything lol
Do not try to play the stream. Realize the truth - there is no stream.
Funny how the word king or prince exudes such a distinguished vibe, when any such vibe is completely undeserved and inappropriate in the context of this country, who as the interviewee says still has a lot of work before it even gets into the 20th century. People must be thinking (probably) of European kings and princes and this positively spills over onto the PR of people one would otherwise have, I'm sorry to say, very little reason to respect, by modern standards.
Phil Collins does not immunize you against becoming Satan lol
May God be the one to judge them
MBS made them repay the money they stole.
Oh, what to do about Kleptothugocracies.?
🤔
Next episode:
Conversation with the intellectual side of Justin Trudeau.
"Move Saudi Arabia in directions that satisfy us" how prevailed do you think you are to think a whole country should change it's identity as if yours has been successful in your own country. You can't erase culture and the middle east is living proof that the US will never gets its way. Relax and get some sleep.
Nuclear power can solve climate change and put these despots out of business.
Unfortunately, Nuclear Winter does not work as a counterbalance for our climate crisis.
@@LinkEX Nuclear winter only occurs as a result of nuclear war, not nuclear power. And this is why we can't have nice things.
Still sweeping the radioactive waste problem under the carpet I see.
@@twntwrs It's not a problem. We bury it. It's a small price to pay for zero carbon emissions, which are effing up the planet and killing people right now.
Nuclear is the cleanest source of energy we have. It's our only choice to stop climate change. Only ignorance and fear prevents it's use.
@@billlyons7024 Some massive expensive doorstops to go planting about the landscape which need to be secured while producing poison that will be around for ever. How about Americans parking their SUVs and sitting their fat asses on bicycles while we develop fusion?
As saudi, I can say Gareme knows what he is talking about and his point what should the USA do with saudi are true, as his liberal views I don't agree ofc, but he knows the logical solution to deal with us
You can't enforce nations to use your values or else get invaded or blockade
(Amd if someone ask me something political about my ruler, then I might not be the best guy to answer about it lol)
The fact that Richard Dawkins "The God Delusion" is one of the most downloaded books in SA is a sign of hope. All I can say is alhamdulillah! ;-)
@@gamerfortynine I mean I can simplify for you that MBS is opposed towards the wahhabists
@@twntwrs yes brotherhood and Ramadan Mubarak
@@twntwrs where did you get that from😂, if it was ever true it's because a lot of Muslim scholars discussed the sentiments in that book and debunked it.
Thumbs down for subscriber model. Otherwise like your content.
mans got to make a living right?
Ask via email and you get a free year if you can afford it
But whether the king or putin, the main six oil companies in the democratic world have made these sheikhs, kings, dictators super rich with no respect for their own citizens or any desire for democracy. But it cannot be a coincidence that wherever there is oil, these companies or the democratic world does not seem to allow democracy to take root. One could suspect that what will happen is that the revenue may have to be shared with the local citizens. Then we would not have princes and oligarchs.. But then who would buy our jets and yachts?
Western governments have tried to advance democracy in middle eastern nations in almost every possible way, from gentle encourage through to military invasion, and it hasn't really worked. Asking US corporations to force democracy onto these same nations as a moral principle, when corporations have no inherent morality anyway, is going to result in corruption, corporate colonialism, and Islamic revolt.
That is a very US or Western centric view. These societies have cultural norms, the majority of which agree with them. Also, the oil wealth in Saudi Arabia IS shared with citizens. That is why work is a foreign concept to most Saudis. Don’t fall into the trap that we can change these societies. That way lies Iraq and Afghanistan.
Hasn't the last 30 years of western intervention taught us that these countries have little understanding of democracy, possibly not even any preference for it? I think it's high time to accept that we live in a world requiring negotiation with differing points of view. Human rights and needs are ubiquitous and that's one thing, styles of governance is another matter.
That's fair.. if there smart they e0uld be giving partial checks to the ppl from the oil income & investing heavily in updating their economy and citizens skills.
@@mjinba07 except human rights aren’t ubiquitous… Maybe you miswrote? Human NEEDS are ubiquitous, not human rights.
I am more than startled that Sam considers a transition from oil to be possible much less a good idea. He really needs to have a serious conversation with someone in the industry.
Realistically the one thing that could push down Saudi oil would be opening US domestic production. SA have the Lowe lifting costs on the planet. America has the second lowest.
A transition from oil is both possible and necessary, the only question is one of timeline.
SA has entrenched and diverse investments globally, so simply putting more oil onto the market won't diminish the man's power and control, but transition from a finite resource is inevitable.
@@LudvigIndestrucable
Ah see this is another reason Sam should have a conversation with an expert on the industry. As it would also educate some of his uninformed audience.
Understand the scale of what you think you can replace. 90% of international trade is maritime and those vessels all use fossil fuels. Do you have an electric vehicle? A great number of the parts made to build it are from fossil fuels. Of course the road is made of asphalt another petroleum product. So when you charge it up (likely with energy produced by fossil fuels) and drive it to grocery store?
Nitrogen based fertilizer is made from fossil fuels as are those based on potash. If there's a pharmacy the prescription you pick up on the way out is likely to contain.....
3 guesses and the second 2 don't count...
@@listener523 and when the oil runs out? As Musk once said, it's not if it runs out, it's when? Efforts towards cleaner energy should be welcomed and supported.
@@RockTop202
When is a fuzzy question the best we can answer is "a long way off". Every prediction of 'peak oil' has been so laughably wrong that nobody bothers to make them anymore to avoid the eventual embarrassment.
Domestic producers are required to make 50 year assessments. Since reporting more than 50 is basically giving intellectual property to your competitors everyone reports 50.
Realistically domestic production did not rise due to reserves. It rose due to technology. Advancements in lateral drilling, 4D seismic sonar, etc. We got really good at finding precisely the molecules we wanted and then getting to that location.
There's also demand destruction. For instance dual cycle reactors create more KwH per BCM so you get more power from less gas etc.
@@listener523 Or you could have read what I wrote perhaps? *It's not a question of if, it's a question of when*
I am not ignorant of the scale of the problem, but fossil fuels are a finite resource, the transition can be unplanned when we just plain run out or it can be planned and before we've so polluted this planet that we struggle to live on it.
Listing how difficult the problem is does not mean that it cannot be faced.
Is it immoral to NOT assassinate him?
MBS did nothing wrong and is actually a very progressive force in Saudi Arabia. Long live the king!
@@BakerWase
MBS is technically the head of the saudi royal mafia who created wahabisim, alqeada & isis then tries to rewrite history now 🤪 Ironically, he is still the least of many evils among the saudi royal mafia 🤢🤮
If the Saudi people do it themselves, I'll cheer. If anyone else does it, you'll just get another tyrant.
@@duran9664 yes - all of which is funded by the US military industrial complex who benefit from "ISIS" et al existing. MBS is far from evil. Even using the term evil at such a level of politics shows your extreme naivety.
@@BakerWase He's a tyrant. His full tally of human rights violations is probably so vast as to be uncountable.
Teth do dyrants
There are 560k sibs to this you tube channel.10s of thousands of views.more than enough revenue to release the full conversations.the last thing I need in my life is another paid subscription.
He lets you subscribe for free if you can't afford it.
But to your point, nothing is owed to you for free. Subscriptions are where he makes his money and allows him to be beholden to no one, including RUclips.
Do Debate With Muhammad Hijab
What madness is this?
First?
Who cares
I used to listen to an insightful Sam. Lately, all I hear is a kind of selective propoganda, for that reason I am out. RIP hitch and non partisan logical thinking.
This podcast seemed overly biased, IMO. Not surprising given Sam's visceral hatred of anything Muslim. To start by discussing MBS's health condition seemed to be a cheap shot. I was much more interested in the actual conversation with the crown prince and the policies he's enacted. Given the fact that Graeme is Asian, I wonder if he has anything worthwhile to say about the Rohingya genocide or the Uyghur concentration camps. I doubt it.
I'm actually a paid subscriber of Sam's podcasts. And I have listened to a lot of his content. The thing I find striking is the near total lack of diversity in the guests he invites to his podcasts. I see very few African American or Mexican American intellectuals. They're almost ALL white like him. And the Muslims he speaks with are almost always discussing the topic of radical Islam. Has he ever looked at the tenets of Sufism which are remarkably similar to the Buddhism he seems to love so much? In fact, he hasn't even invited many Asian Buddhists to his podcasts. Nearly all the speakers on Buddhism on his podcasts are white. Sam, word of advice: try to get more global perspectives in your content if you can.
This is the typical strawmanning that Islam apologists or Mohammedans engage in: conflating Mohammedanism (the fascistoid religious ideology that any thinking person would reject) - with Mohammedans (its greatest victims) good people (who are *not* hated by Sam) who have been indoctrinated in it and live under its subjugation.
I remember there was a podcast a while back where spoke to a woman who mentioned Christian extremists performing acts of violence. Sam was incredulous to that fact, as his established belief is that Christianity is a benign religion. As far as I can tell, he hasn't changed his opinion since. I'm finding myself equally as frustrated as you on Sam's ability to remodel his worldview against deeply held convictions.
@@InsideOutAnus Sam can repeatedly be heard describing the Bible as even worse than the Quran, inveighing against the predations of the Catholic church and decrying the corrosive effect of evangelism on science education in the US. The notion he has an "established belief that Christianity is a benign religion" is demonstrably false. The fact that Christianity is no longer at its historical peak virulence and violence is demonstrably true. And Harris has the intellectual honesty to recognize this and say so. If he showed incredulity the way you describe it's because that behavior is way outside of the current norm for christianity.
please cite the quotation where sam said that christianity is a "benign religion."
otherwise, dunno what to tell you. if you want to take some vox op-eds at their surface value, that's your call. but if you want to know the serious answer, listen to what actually says, because you clearly haven't.
When I listen to someone speak I am only concerned with the content of what they say, not their race or any other superficial feature.
almost first
Who cares
@@moonfall8972 Those who like being first might.
Antichrist in the making
Sam discounts God because some people in His name has done evil. With the same logic he should discount atheism because some people espousing an atheistic philosophy has done evil.
Sam discounts theological belief systems for more than just the actions of people who have committed illogical, violent acts in the name of their deity.
@@proudatheist2042 I know.
Sam doesn’t discount god because some people have done evil, he discounts god because there is not one shred of evidence that a god exists.
@@proudatheist2042 that's not Sam's position. In fact he doesnt hold a position on the proposition of God; that's still for you to present evidence to convince us.
What a stupid thing to say. God doesn’t suddenly become real however many good religious people you can find.
Trump loved the Crown Prince, so he couldn't have been that bad.
Not really. Have you heard of politics?
Not about this episode, but I heard your comments about “disappointing your audience” and wanted to say that your are normally very pragmatic and insightful and can usually articulate the opposing perspectives point, but unfortunately you were way off in your understanding of the complaints about the election. I’m sorry to say that I think your understanding of the concerns is limited by dogma of the Democratic Party and you dismiss out of hand facts because it goes against that. You are normally very VERY good at avoiding that. You are a brilliant man and important for our society. But you have a little Trump derangement syndrome. Most of the dismissals from the courts were on standing, not merit- there is a difference, especially when you consider the big picture!!! I’m not saying the election should have been overturned or anything like that, but there are a lot of questions-legit questions, and evidence that points, enough, to shenanigans - there should be serious conversations. You however because of who was involved are willing to dismiss it all because of your TDS. Please don’t go down the road of political dogma controlling your mind. Good day sir
Jon, great and well articulated comment.
Yeah I agree. I love kennedy. But still believe on balance and in policy trump was the best since him. Glenn Greenwald did a superb video explaining how trump did nothing close to his predecessors in war crimes. Bot even close. But I'll agree with harris that trump shits out his mouth alot and bushits to muchm
i appreciate the effort in a well made post. i am afraid sam is way long gone though
Please explain, what is the evidence that points to shenanigans. Trump’s own DOJ looked into it and said the election lies are BS, multiple recounts, The Georgia Republican Secretary of State, Trump’s cyber security member said no fraud, The Arizona recount found more votes for Biden, Mike Pence went to the inauguration, etc, etc. We both know you didn’t read any of the 60 cases. Those are the talking points that it was standing and not merit. How about the trump appointed judge that said “Charges of unfairness are serious,” Bibas wrote on behalf of a three-judge panel. “But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here.” How about Rudy Giuliani getting asked by a judge under oath if this was a fraud case and Rudy knew he could lie to the American people, but under oath he said “This is not a Fraud Case”. Sorry, Sam is correct.
@@tedjuffrie1375 think of how our institutions fail us when analyzing information regarding biologically motivated group behavioral propensities. Then understand that failure on ever level is a daily occurrence, driven by fear of what the public will think.
I’ll only believe this guy if he gets disappeared as well. I’m no fan of Saudi Arabia but these seems like a hit piece just to make money of Libs who support Iran every journalist is basically trying to hustle you.
Don't know how you work that out... speaker is critical of Biden's (liberal) administration take and takes a realistic view of Saudi politics.
I don't know how you make a call on someone's mental health in a meeting, you are a journalist, not a doctor, there might be blood on MBS hands, but tell me a world leader who doesn't? Women can drive, there will be cinima in SA, he is the leader SA needs
Fresh take. Based.
World leaders do not usually blowup school busses with children in them.
You cannot exchange rights of women to drive or cinema hall with basic human rights like right to life. No wonder why India has Modi as PM and going backward.
For us, there is no compromise on basic human rights, rest comes later.
@@ich4804 if you are so concerned with right to life, you might want to train your police' officers better, and have better gun laws.
@@ich4804 "You cannot exchange rights of women to drive it cinema hall with basic human rights like right to life."
Watch me.
MBS. insane