Trading settlements was the best addition to diplomacy. Combined with the camps to recruit allied units makes for some fun armies. Vampires with artillery, Dwarves with cavalry etc. I actively try to complete provinces for my allies to gain the political benefits now. Whereas in TW WH2 I mostly just ignored allies and saw them as a safe zone.
It's amazingly useful when playing as the chaos factions, being able to gift a vassal as much land as you want. I usually pick a favorite vassal and give them all the land I conquer
It's also better now because you don't have to worry about your ally/someone you don't want to go to war with taking the last region of the province you've been trying to conquer. In wh2 you either had to accept you wouldn't get the whole province or go to war with a faction you'd rather not war, just for that 1 settlement.
Worth mentioning too that if you have a random settlement you want to hang on to, you can stop collecting tax to save -4 public order & hold it for a lot longer. They don't usually make much cash anyway. It can be really useful.
I think the one thing that probably helps new players the most is to focus on one enemy at a time to reduce the amount of opponents you have. Even if you can't hold onto their territory wiping them out will mean you have less opponents to deal with in the long run.
That has to be done very carefully though, since every faction you come into contact with might declare war on you. So by defeating one enemy for good you might be producing two more. Better to trade blows with some enemies and "farm" them for experience to level up lords and heroes in that case.
@@MaSOneTwo A good way to mitigate it is to early on invest into a second lord as you get more income from upgrading your main province and expanding. Doesn't need a full army or a good one, just a lord that can be backup and patrol between settlements too far away from your main army. Usually that keeps the enemy from attacking you if they declare war, but also it increases your strength rank which also makes it less likely for them to declare war cause if the AI sees you as weaker you're more prone to be a target. Later on that lord can become your second army whilst you build a 3rd to act as the back up, and once you have a 3rd lord out with a 4th to defend, you can split your 2nd lord from your LL, as the 2nd likely become powerful enough now and your LL can likely take on 2-3 armies at once now, to fight at two fronts with the 3rd backing up the 2nd. It's usually how I play and it tends to always work out well. Ofc some stuff happens that switches it up, but it's a good strategy to base your armies on if you don't know what to do with them, to always have a back-up army that can cover your territory or move in to aid whenever needed when your territory is very small.
@@prinstyrio0 also useful to let that second lord join all the battles and level up fast. Reinforcements gain 50% of the xp, so try to start the battle with your main army/ the lord you want to level. Sometimes I just have three lords and a hero moving together without units and let them clear an area
I really like the Sack and Raze options for dealing with settlements that would lead to broken provinces. Having a random unmanageable settlement in a broken province is far worse than getting the immediate massive gains of a sack, or screwing your enemies over with a razed settlement they would have to redevelop from scratch.
@@ExceedProduction It kills half of their army when they resettle, i abuse the shit out of it while being persued by enemy armies and ambush as beastmen. Get your agent to stay near it, so the enemies agent swarm around him, rather than find your ambush encampment and you never really fight a fair fight.
I find it useful to occupy when in regions where attrition would apply. Stay there for the turn end to avoid attrition/gain replenishment, then abandon the site when you move on to the next.
@@tpyographic You only get replenishment when you make a full turn, so if you attack them right after they have resettled it will be at 50%. It's even more bonkers if u do it with the LL beastman that negates replenishment in local region.
Seeing you type in the gold amount by hand in that trade deal: did you know that you can just hit the "Balance Offer" button and it will automatically put in the maximum amount of gold you can get? I love WH3 quality of life improvements!
Dude I tired playing warhammer 2 after playing warhammer 3 and like it’s just not fun. The improvements have drastically change the play of the game and I love it. (Not saying warhammer 2 is bad , but that there sun much cool new shit you can do in 3)
The Balance Offer button doesn't actually get you the maximum amount of gold but it gets you pretty close. There's usually room to squeeze a few to even a hundred more gold after you balance depending on the ammount of the gold traded.
The Map is so beautiful. I have been traveling internationally for the last 6 weeks with wife's family. Tried to download the update on wife's laptop, and it would have taken 20 hours lol. Can't wait to get home this week and fire up my desktop to play this masterpiece. Cheers all.
Great guide! I remember struggling with these things early on in WH1, through trial and error you can learn a lot, as well as watching some people play, by now it's second nature to know when you're pushing too far and when you're not. So anyone new and keeps failing their campaigns early on, don't feel discouraged! I went through several failed campaigns until I perfected the means to play right, much came down to taking big risks and being better playing in battles, but some were just making the right decisions on campaign map and knowing when to push for territory and when to stay back and build up.
I haven't perfected anything since wh1 lol, but you're right. I find that simply knowing which factions become an issue quickly allows you to know how to tackle a campaign. For example, the vampire counts on warhammer 2 after the empire update would just go nuclear so quickly. So planning accordingly and basically sacking their major cities before. Before you're able to finally take all of Sylvania. I found to be the best strategy for me.
5:45 You can try to make peace with your enemy or even sign an non-aggressive, however the AI usually doesn’t give a F about it, they break it without any hesitation (there is a Penalty for you breaking it and only you)
I have found that the AI push for peace or confederation after their armies are crushed. they simply want to buy time to regroup which you might be able to take advantage of
@huang george Not all of them tho it mostly depends on their personality traits if it says they are untrustworthy or something like that then yeah they do that %90
Stellaris fixes this by making a faction incapable of attacking someone for ten years (or in this case it could be turns) after breaking a NAP, which also makes you consider it more carefully even if you're not concerned with reputation.
Having a corner of the map to control is a lot easier to start with than being dropped into a mosh pit. Definitely streamlines the where when, and how you advance.
Imrik campaign is literally this lol. I've beaten multiple campaigns with vampire counts, nurgle, the empire, and skaven, but Imrik and the general Kislev campaigns are tough as hell
@@jademers88 Imrik is really easy now? Only real threat is Kugath and he's far enough away that by the time you fight him you have at least 1 extra dragon and can wreck him. Imrik in Warhammer 2 is actually hard because you have no choice but to play a certain strategy for your first 10 turns (bum rush Clan Eshin as hard as you can otherwise they will stomp you). Immortal Empires has changed Imrik into one of the easiest starts by far!
at 5:30 unless i'm mistaken the value of trading a settlement increases with the value of the buildings in a settlement. Meaning if you want to use it as a bargaining chip, you should develop it so you get more diplomatic value when you try to pawn it off to them and more likely to get the deal you're aiming for. I even had negative diplomatic value when trying to trade off a ruin to another faction since their "Main Threat" modifier kicked in for -5 and the settlement ruin was only worth 4,7 (i think), meaning it actually worsened my position when dealing with them. As soon as i developed the settlement a bit, i got a lot more out of it when trading.
Yea the AI will pay you way more for a settlement that isnt straight garbage. This *Seems* to include unique building chains. Such as the ones you might find in Vauls Anvil's. Eataine paid me almost 20K for a Vauls Anvil that didnt even have the unique building yet. He wouldnt pay me more than 10K for ANY other settlement and i sold him like the entire dark elf region.
First, you know I love these and I watch even if I think I already have a good handle on the issue. Second, thanks for telling people to take a settlement as a watch tower. For myself, once Skaven were introduced in WH2, I never razed anything because I could never be sure where the Skaven were. It’s much better to take the settlement, even if unfavorable red terrain, simply build the the single level, and then leave it. If you are given time, then build the resource or money building and make a tiny bit on it, if you can, or just untax it to lower the chance of rebellion. And if rebellion comes, that can be a great way to level up your second or third army doing guard duty while you are focusing on advancing in whatever else direction you are going. THIRD, you can still make a Brocken province work, either for a resource or minor money, but more importantly, for taking away resources or money from an enemy. Even if you only hold it for 5-10 turns before they take it back, or maybe 10-20 before you finally bring your full force to bear and take out the rest of the settlements, you have denies that location to another faction.
Very good for newcomers! Great job, Zerk. One point I would like to add upon is campaign victory - not just Long one but the Ultimate, too. Which can be done separately from any other and only after End Times have triggered.
I just started playing the IE campaigns, bought the 3 base games on the winter sals and I was quite lost on the campaigns, there's quite a few guides for specific ones out there, but those take out the fun of experimentation. This kind of general guide was exactly what I was looking for, thanks!
Focus on winning your fights, if you start to lose , factions on the fence will start to declare war on you. Also, dont be afriad to raze a settlement, some factions love to rush in at occupy it, which can be a great opportunity for you to pounce and shift the momentum in a war!
Played with Vlad and was already in Altdorf, then suddenly Taurox stopped me from moving on because of his Herdstones, my Orc Boyz from the east, although we were Allies, traded settlements and so on, they declared war on me to the point where ever faction around me declared war on me, Turn 50 or so. Had to totally focus on which settlement i keep und build walls etc. warhammer 3 is much more challenging than warhammer 2 from what I’ve seen and i like it a lot.
It is people say AI is passive true they're cowardly at times. But my experience in VH/N every campaign is War Declaration turn after turn by random Races and Factions. Ganking you from every direction, ad Mannfred and later I tried Festus is a nightmare!
I like it alot as well. I also feel like it is on alot of ways more fair. I find when you are winning on the campaign map the AI will either try to build up it's defenses in areas it controls or if desperate launch an attack with whatever they can. I also found the diplomatic relations tend to be better in this game than the others. The AI will seek peace at times. It feels a bit more realistic (as much as you could expect it you know deamons, undead, orks and of course Fantasy Germans 🤣
BROKEN. You wanted to say broken, not challenging. When whole world for no reason goes in war with you, it's broken, not challenging. And since diplo is a 💩💩💩 in WH, well... Almost no way to get peace, but kill every unfriendly thing
@@suriil9875 there is a reason why, but i realized it too late because i always forget to look in to the diplomacy screen and check out whats going on. I had situations where i got settlements for free because of good relationship etc.
5:55 when doing this, dont forget to calculate the value of the settlement long-term vs what you get when trading it.. 2k for a settlement that has an income of 200 per turn isnt a good deal (for you, the seller). In 11 turns you would have earned more money in total by just letting it sit and rot idle. And thats nothing in a 500+ turn campaign. So in that case it would actually be better to literally pay them 1k for the non agression pact, since that settlement would pay that back in 5 turns for "free".
Certainly a fair point. Although not sure I'd get a Non-Aggression for 1k but yeah, you're right. For me though, I just prefer to get the security and focus on fighting the wars I'm in. I'm personally not that efficient with money. Dats not da Orc way.
Nice tip, I would add that in some situation, it can be a good deal. Sometimes, you can't afford to wait 11 turns or you may need that 2k right away to build a emergency army or something. You access your situation and figure out if it a good deal or not, that what make this game so fun for me
Zerk is probably used to playing legendary in TWW2 and it would be impossible to maintain public order in a lone settlement. However with the public order changes in TWW3 and a begginer playing in normal / hard it shouldn't be a problem
Love the content, lucky I got here early after being Rick rolled by Tariff. Love the little tips too, especially since I'm loving my Malus Darkblade campaign
The most important element in expanding your territory is also the speed of movement between your cities. In highly concentrated spaces like around Altdorf and Drakenhof, a single army can get to 4 different settlements in one turn and 7 in two, meaning that you can defend very efficiently - you need fewer armies and fewer walls. Meanwhile if your area is highly spread out, even a single province may take multiple turns to navigate meaning you must be much more defensive, need to invest heavily in walls, and have to decide which are most worth defending. What makes the Eltharion and Imrik HE campaigns so challenging and so fun is that you are constantly on the defensive, because you're surrounded by enemies who outnumber your armies and need to find a way to expand while under constant pressure at all times.
I think Lustria particularly suffers from this, since, especially central-southeastern Lustria is all Marsh and other hard to move through stuff, actually getting armies around is tough.
7:41 sometimes it doesn't matter if the enemy will retake the settlements back, if you do a big push and sack and capture the settlements of your enemy the buildings will be at tier 1 or 2 if they recapture them. So their economy will fail over time and their armies will not be able to recruit tier 3 units because they will not have tier 3 buildings. They will become so much easier to beat. I use this strategy against Sylvania most of the times.
Unless your playing against the Skaven who can just instantly bum rush a low-tier shanty town into a high-tier giga fortress as soon as they capture it just by using some bread and meat
Settlements in broken provinces make nice gifts for potential allies too. It's a nice way to get non-aggression/trade agreements, as well as the added benefit of having a buffer between yourself and your enemy. :)
I really hope that they move the province settlements around before they get to the final version. I really hate having a settlement on the left in the building manager, but it's on the right of the other settlements on the map.
Alternatively just play as Khorne, and raze every minor settlement while occupying only major ones, then you focus everything on developing the major one, while not caring if some random army snatches your minor settlements for a short time.
Interesting thing about chaos factions, mostly the Mono Gods, is that their Public order is a non issue due to how it works, meaning you don't have to worry for public order but, its still good to keep in mind they still suffer from other issues, but can usually expand more...but problem is they will be ganged up on very very quickly. Broken Providences can also be used greatly to force your ally into becoming your vassal if your already on good terms with them, this can also help prevent any unnecessary wars or aggressions towards you due to separate diplomatic ties...but also makes it so you can better control your ally into doing what you want...in the case of Kairos I never though of not only giving a settlement to my Flaming Scribes but to take the capital settlement of the providence so that I can have them then develop it and defend me and it from the northern skink tribes while having the Vassal Agreement, as the settlement will definitely cement your control over them even if their a dozen or so in the red for the agreement.
What I like to do, when I have a single part of a Province: I recruit a Lord, let him stay in this one settlement (sometimes with some cheap Troops as support), try to lower public order even further so that an Army spawns. Kill it and through that level a Leader for my future Armies, when I have the financial ressources to build one.
Attack the army once, delete units you do not want to see again, then let one unit and a badly damaged lord escape. The next turn, they will get three or four new units and you can kill those, again killing the units that annoy you most. Experience earned for lords only depends on the type of victory and not on the amount of enemies killed, so you can fight just an enemy lord and see him run off the field and still have good xp. So defeating that one army once every turn but letting some live can get you good xp fast
@@sjonnieplayfull5859 I still found this a good way to level Lords, even if youre not at war. A steady source of exp if you will. Sometimes its better to focus on economy and not war, and thats where you still can get high level Lords without declaring war. It doesnt apply to all species and playstyles, but for some, it´ll make a huge difference.
Great guide! Though there is actually one faction that benefits pretty highly from broken province thanks to the reworked corruption mechanics. Skaven. At low skaven corruption, you get +5 control and +3 food. No other corruption matters for this, and a lot of corruption types actually suppress it at high level, for example, high chaos corruption gives -5 to all other corruption. Combine that with how every skaven building gives income, and getting a minor settlement in a province you have no other interest in is great. Build it up with walls, and it serves as food, money, and a pretty effective deterrence for enemies with little/no risk of rebellion.
Rapid expansion too early is a problem I'm trying to rectify right now in my Alith Anar campaign. That and my friend dragging his Beastman's Chaos Corruption riddled nut sack through my territory to get to the Sword of Khaine. I think I'll do as you've suggested and sell some territories back to the AI through diplomacy. Maybe I can get the north to leave me alone for a minute or two. I expanded north into the snow to help the aforementioned friend, and I've just been putting out fires left and right trying to stabilize. What I needed to do was instead wipe out the Tomb Kings to the west, so I control everything from the west edge of the map to my capital, shutting off threats from that side for good.
If you get caught off guard by an enemy stack (ie. A flanking enemy army while you're beelining to their capital) you can raze/abandon a settlement then let the ai resettle it, severely weakening their army
The way I expanding usually find which neighboring faction that friendly to me and which one is not friendly and I attack the one that is not friendly to me, so that way I know my border is secure from attack while I expand.
Heres a tip if you have green in diplomacy and want make do the auto balance the max you can get from demanding money is 2000 but if you use the auto balance it has no limits.
I also like to take single regions that are on chokepoints. With most factions, getting a settlement to lvl 2 is relatively easy and a small army with a settlement garrison can defend pretty well. The AI will usually just siege for a lot of turns so you have time to help or they may decide to attack and you can use the towers
One of the more difficult ones as a start is Kemmler, due to the way his starting province is geographically split up. You have to go through three different faction owners to get to Grung Zint. Compared to a lot of faction starts, this one is more difficult to unite your starting province.
@@wilma_balls cathayans are the least of your problems. Weird settlement placement, river traversal, roaming lizardmen hordes, lokhir being a general dick, helman raiding from the south, greasus declaring war whenever he feels like it, desert attrition, wood elves in the southeast and of course, clan eshin
It is also important to mention that if you become too big to quickly you generate threat and other factions will be more likely to declare war on you. It has to be considered for confededation for instance.
I used to always occupy settlements, now I Sack then Occupy on the same turn. I take that money and use it upgrade my main provinces that provide the most income. I found this to be the most effective way of continuing on without getting bogged down. Also, build armies as your income increases, don't just build an army from scratch at the last minute when you need it, start with a few soldiers and increase the army size slowly, that way you can respond to enemies and defend with it. Only time I'd recommend razing a settlement is if it's one you know you cannot support and is too dangerous/overextended. Let the enemy take spend the cost to take it and then take it from them so you don't have to use the resources.
My first play through in a total war game was Nakai. And man it really is a different game. I just wandered around taking settlements, no thoughts at all.
My problem is, when I get a full province and I leave it 5 minutes alone to get my seconds. Others come to get a city of it where I have to walk all the way back to recapture it till I got this they already have a second city and so I am just running behind the attackers to get my citys back again and just moving in circles.
I always build garrison buildings as soon as available in every region. I've learned too many times the hard way that Beastmen and Skaven pop up anywhere, once a Waaagh! breaches it cuts a swath through your most vulnerable stuff, etc. It just generally makes taking your territory a slog for the enemy.
I'm shit at the game, but I'd love a video with your tips on army management in campaign. I.e., when to raise a new army, what to think about when putting it together, how to take a well-defended walled settlement, when to disband, how to refill your stack efficiently, when to just let it sit somewhere, when to switch out Lords, etc.
The best thing ive heard for WHEN you recruit a new army. Is WHEN you NEED it. It seems simple but its also very easy to mismanage and destroy your economy or have your faction destroyed because you didnt utilise your economy.
Think he has a guide on army composition. Main point: take what works for you and what you like. If artillery works but it kills the fun, go for the cavalry that makes you happy, or the other way around. What is your strategy? Move around the enemy with fast units while the rest of the army hides? Burn the enemy with magic while a tough frontline shields your mages? Hamer and anvil all the way? Try to group units together, so your lord skills best buff the army, and build the army with a goal/ enemy in mind. Should you create a one-trick pony, make sure you send it to an enemy that can not hard counter it. It is useful to have one or two fast units to wipe out enemy units that start running. Not coming back to the fight is good. Not coming to the next fight is even better. Keep an eye on upkeep. Find out what upkeep for your current army is and if you can afford another one a little more expensive and still have money left for buildings. If you can, time to start an army. If you can't, upgrade your income buildings. Also: if you have an army, use it. Else it is only money doing nothing. Train your lords. If you are not ready to take on another enemy yet, you might toy with the last one: loot their last settlement, but don't capture or raze. Lords and heroes get a fixed amount of xp for a battle, independent of enemy numbers. A good victory over one enemy lord is just as much xp as a victory over a full stack, so try to get more of those. Also: don't kill the enemy lord in the first battle. The enemy gets a free 100% hp lord for the next battle. Instead, take down his hp to 500 or less, then let him run. Next battle he will break at the first or second hit, die at the fourth, dealing a blow to enemy morale and removing an anchorstone from their defense Good luck & have fun!
Id defintely emphasize increasing your global recruitment capacity and reducing its recruit times. If you start early, later on when you're over-stretched you will have the ability to raise a full sized decent army in a single turn! That way defense won't hinder your expansion
@@youtubedeletedmynamewhybother To expand on this, it comes down to what are you doing with your money. Build too many armies up too quickly and you're not building up your empire. Spending it all on building up your empire and not on the armies just means you're developing those provinces for the AI. There are certain factions that like building tall and building wide, but the reason why I really don't think that a guide would work is that each faction approaches their economy so differently (even within the different races) that you'd need to have a general guide for each.
Another example of why I always send newbies to your channel when they ask for tips, quality vid Mr Zerk. Though I was triggered af when you were trading that settlement and you manually asked for gold, that "balance trade" button is a god damn gift from the allmighty lol
I found Bitter Bay to be absolutely not worht keeping as Imrik due to the 100 points of skaven corruption on the province. It was impossible to maintain control of
This is the best tip you will ever get (always build growth - stack it as much as you can). Growth is the most important thing in the game. If you can't afford to upgrade your main setttlement buildings, start sacking when you conquer, then trade the sacked settlements to an ally for gold + standing. Extra growth is stored and when you have enough - getting to level 5 main building is the goal.
I enjoy trying to not do what the game nudges me to do. Capture first province? Naa, Imma try allying with my natural enemies, and just try to do something weird. Thats what I love about Total War games, its a sandbox :) Allying the empire as vampire counts bears some challenges of course...
Another good idea is to look at how suitable an area is for your race if you dont know where to expand. If possible try to stay on green areas and avoid red ones, especially in the early turns of a campaign.
"I want to give newer players an example province in this video to help teach them how to expand effectively. Oh I know, I'll go with the province with settlements named Khazid Irkulaz, Karak Ungor and Karak Raziak."
My path of expansion in the early game depends on the following factors: 1) Who declares war on me. 2) Climate/corruption - usually in the early game I try to avoid expanding into red territory or areas with high corruption. 3) Who I will meet diplomaticly - I avoid expanding into areas were I will meet aggresive AI factions that will dislike me. 4) Terrain - For example terrain such jungle, mountain and marches consume alot of campaign movement range. 5) How easy the enemy is to fight - usually I avoid fighting enemies that are strong on the battle field like Ogres, Wood Elves or Skaven.
Question, how do i net get everyone declaring war on me? In one turn as gelt I had the dwarfs next to me, the vampires, orcs just out the gate and an elector count all start on me
I use to play steam roll. but now I only expand base on the situation at hand and how much money I have to produce the expedition forces and the provincial protection forces.
Nice vid - I wanted to know are you adversely affected if you have provinces that aren’t actually bordering each other (etc another faction is controlling a landmass between your controlled areas)
Kolec and Sigvold are just a nuisance. Straight up 1 turn wound recovery time. You wipe their 20 stack of T5 Chosen, spawn and armoured chaos trolls. Only for that exact same lord to come out of the fog of war 2 turns later with the exact same stack of units INCLUDING Regiments of renown that you just killed. And thats on normal difficulty.
Very cool guide, im shure it works great. Except when i play Kislev and start with Ostland, Nurgle, rats, tree men and Azhag coming for you around turn 10, expanding gets a bit difficult.
i must admit i love all your videos and your "on point explanation", hopefully i will be able to play and win a campaign as i dream of since TWWH1 where i lost with dwarfs in their easy campaign on all of my attempts ... :D
In immortal empires campaign (BETA), would it also help to try to defeat the main army of the faction before going after settlements as part of the expansion?
depends on where the main army is located. If they are out of their province, then you expand and conquer. This will eventually make the enemy army go back which gives you a good position to defend or ambush.
I would like a guide where allies are not included because in my experience, it seems whenever I have a major faction as an enemy when they have 2 settlements they field like 5 armies but when they are my ally, I see them getting clapped by someone and severely lacking any armies like no attempt to make an army. Also Also take and hold is usually better because with the AI, it seems you cannot financially break them so exterminating them is a better option and if I don't exterminate the faction, then I won't be able to rest easy. Though depending on the faction you playing within the Ordertide roster, you may have to kill off all of your neighbors and quickly or they will suddenly go to war with you and start a blitzkrieg against you. Then another neighbor goes to war with me because I became a strategic threat due to me having to blitzkrieg against another faction. And the "don't over expand" is a hard selling tip because the AI has more benefits than I do and I need some of the higher tier units to keep up.
Thing is you kinda have to a lot of the time. If you're not Hyper-Turbo-over expanding to wipe out Sigvolds faction, you can *Guarantee* he'll be back every 3 turns with another 20 stack filled with regiments of renown. Same with Belakor. Either you over extend and wipe them out instantly. Or you spend the rest of the campaign fighting LL's with 1 turn wound recovery timers.
I'm on turn 58, I have like 20-30 provinces, all the towns I have give me gold, so I can afford like 6 full armies to defend it all. So I don't see that there's a big problem with over expansion. Or?
In some cases not emidiatly taking your starting province in the first 5 turns can completely lock you out of the game unless you have everything on easy.
Another Tip, don‘t occupy settlements when armies of the enemy are nearby. If they attack you, you have no garrison and your army is maybe half full. Not every enemy but for example Valkia, she fucked me up many times by standing nearby.
It seems to, yes. I managed to vassalize Archaeon by giving him a major settlement which I had built up pretty heavily, even though the settlement was basically worthless to him since it wasn't a dark fortress.
Question, if I'm getting war declared on me and I win a city should I raze it instead of taking it? I find the computer just mass declares war on me and I'm just trying to deal with fires I didn't start.
Copy Pasting this: Try declaring war on very distant factions. IF you are not participating in enough wars by certain timeframes the AI will declare wars for you. Regardless of your power level or even who your allies are. Basically once every 10-20 turns roughly just go into your diplomacy and see if you can declare/Join war on a faction thats on the other side of the map, or so far away that they wont be a problem until many many turns from now. By doing this you can formulate allies too, by joining their wars and getting them to pay you for it. Which can help to bolster your more vulnerable territory when they are defending the outskirts for you.
obviously some lords/factions are going to be better and worse than others at this though^ When you're a demon surrounded by order-tide it can be pretty rough.
@@youtubedeletedmynamewhybother interesting I didn't know this...I was playing a boris campaign and just got fed up with fighting wars on two fronts and only having 1 army able to win a fight.
You forgot to answer the real question, why do you do with your main army while you are building the settlement. Raid your next target? disband some of the shaft? Spam battles?
Trading settlements was the best addition to diplomacy. Combined with the camps to recruit allied units makes for some fun armies. Vampires with artillery, Dwarves with cavalry etc.
I actively try to complete provinces for my allies to gain the political benefits now. Whereas in TW WH2 I mostly just ignored allies and saw them as a safe zone.
Trading settlements is good, but it's just a bonus compared to Quick Deal and Balance Offer.
It's amazingly useful when playing as the chaos factions, being able to gift a vassal as much land as you want. I usually pick a favorite vassal and give them all the land I conquer
I’m learning that if I trade settlements that keep getting harrassed by baddies I save my self countless stressful moments lol
It's also better now because you don't have to worry about your ally/someone you don't want to go to war with taking the last region of the province you've been trying to conquer. In wh2 you either had to accept you wouldn't get the whole province or go to war with a faction you'd rather not war, just for that 1 settlement.
@@RyANWaLlEt hochland in my festus campaign lmao
Worth mentioning too that if you have a random settlement you want to hang on to, you can stop collecting tax to save -4 public order & hold it for a lot longer. They don't usually make much cash anyway. It can be really useful.
I think the one thing that probably helps new players the most is to focus on one enemy at a time to reduce the amount of opponents you have. Even if you can't hold onto their territory wiping them out will mean you have less opponents to deal with in the long run.
That has to be done very carefully though, since every faction you come into contact with might declare war on you. So by defeating one enemy for good you might be producing two more. Better to trade blows with some enemies and "farm" them for experience to level up lords and heroes in that case.
I like to say, don't focus on where to expand, focus on who to genocide
@@MaSOneTwo A good way to mitigate it is to early on invest into a second lord as you get more income from upgrading your main province and expanding. Doesn't need a full army or a good one, just a lord that can be backup and patrol between settlements too far away from your main army.
Usually that keeps the enemy from attacking you if they declare war, but also it increases your strength rank which also makes it less likely for them to declare war cause if the AI sees you as weaker you're more prone to be a target.
Later on that lord can become your second army whilst you build a 3rd to act as the back up, and once you have a 3rd lord out with a 4th to defend, you can split your 2nd lord from your LL, as the 2nd likely become powerful enough now and your LL can likely take on 2-3 armies at once now, to fight at two fronts with the 3rd backing up the 2nd.
It's usually how I play and it tends to always work out well. Ofc some stuff happens that switches it up, but it's a good strategy to base your armies on if you don't know what to do with them, to always have a back-up army that can cover your territory or move in to aid whenever needed when your territory is very small.
@@prinstyrio0 yeah, good write up, I hope it helps some people who are struggling. This is the basics as far as I am concerend.
@@prinstyrio0 also useful to let that second lord join all the battles and level up fast. Reinforcements gain 50% of the xp, so try to start the battle with your main army/ the lord you want to level. Sometimes I just have three lords and a hero moving together without units and let them clear an area
I really like the Sack and Raze options for dealing with settlements that would lead to broken provinces. Having a random unmanageable settlement in a broken province is far worse than getting the immediate massive gains of a sack, or screwing your enemies over with a razed settlement they would have to redevelop from scratch.
I feel like razing doesnt do much against AI, they cheat anyway, right?
@@ExceedProduction
It kills half of their army when they resettle, i abuse the shit out of it while being persued by enemy armies and ambush as beastmen.
Get your agent to stay near it, so the enemies agent swarm around him, rather than find your ambush encampment and you never really fight a fair fight.
@@hisokamorow6709 But some of them recover that 50% in a single turn (the same one they lose for occupying the site anyway!)
I find it useful to occupy when in regions where attrition would apply. Stay there for the turn end to avoid attrition/gain replenishment, then abandon the site when you move on to the next.
@@tpyographic
You only get replenishment when you make a full turn, so if you attack them right after they have resettled it will be at 50%.
It's even more bonkers if u do it with the LL beastman that negates replenishment in local region.
If you kill your enemies first, you won't have to defend ;)
Crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentations of the women.
this has basically been my dwarf campaign lol
@@yfna1 😂🙌 yeeess!!
That sounds like something Tyrion could say.
Herds be like “No”
Seeing you type in the gold amount by hand in that trade deal: did you know that you can just hit the "Balance Offer" button and it will automatically put in the maximum amount of gold you can get? I love WH3 quality of life improvements!
Dude I tired playing warhammer 2 after playing warhammer 3 and like it’s just not fun. The improvements have drastically change the play of the game and I love it. (Not saying warhammer 2 is bad , but that there sun much cool new shit you can do in 3)
@@foxthewatersnail4999 bro i still paly Warhammer 1. And I own all 3.
@@Chibbygaming why?
@@rinserofwinds tis good
The Balance Offer button doesn't actually get you the maximum amount of gold but it gets you pretty close. There's usually room to squeeze a few to even a hundred more gold after you balance depending on the ammount of the gold traded.
Love to see every RUclipsr redoing their old tutorials for the new game! Can't wait for you to do faction videos again!!!
The Map is so beautiful. I have been traveling internationally for the last 6 weeks with wife's family. Tried to download the update on wife's laptop, and it would have taken 20 hours lol. Can't wait to get home this week and fire up my desktop to play this masterpiece. Cheers all.
Masterpiece? I read people hate this game I love it but Jesus there people who say a dlc this motng would fix all.... Don't get it
Great guide! I remember struggling with these things early on in WH1, through trial and error you can learn a lot, as well as watching some people play, by now it's second nature to know when you're pushing too far and when you're not.
So anyone new and keeps failing their campaigns early on, don't feel discouraged! I went through several failed campaigns until I perfected the means to play right, much came down to taking big risks and being better playing in battles, but some were just making the right decisions on campaign map and knowing when to push for territory and when to stay back and build up.
I haven't perfected anything since wh1 lol, but you're right. I find that simply knowing which factions become an issue quickly allows you to know how to tackle a campaign. For example, the vampire counts on warhammer 2 after the empire update would just go nuclear so quickly. So planning accordingly and basically sacking their major cities before. Before you're able to finally take all of Sylvania. I found to be the best strategy for me.
5:45 You can try to make peace with your enemy or even sign an non-aggressive, however the AI usually doesn’t give a F about it, they break it without any hesitation (there is a Penalty for you breaking it and only you)
I have found that the AI push for peace or confederation after their armies are crushed. they simply want to buy time to regroup which you might be able to take advantage of
@@SilverGuard yeah and after 6 turn they are back on the attack, but if you attack them in 10 turns you get a penalty on trust
@huang george Not all of them tho it mostly depends on their personality traits if it says they are untrustworthy or something like that then yeah they do that %90
They need to come up with a way to fix this. I also wish total war games required some sort of Casus belli.
Stellaris fixes this by making a faction incapable of attacking someone for ten years (or in this case it could be turns) after breaking a NAP, which also makes you consider it more carefully even if you're not concerned with reputation.
Having a corner of the map to control is a lot easier to start with than being dropped into a mosh pit. Definitely streamlines the where when, and how you advance.
This is why Boris is my only chaos rift victory so far
Imrik campaign is literally this lol. I've beaten multiple campaigns with vampire counts, nurgle, the empire, and skaven, but Imrik and the general Kislev campaigns are tough as hell
@@jademers88 Imrik is really easy now? Only real threat is Kugath and he's far enough away that by the time you fight him you have at least 1 extra dragon and can wreck him. Imrik in Warhammer 2 is actually hard because you have no choice but to play a certain strategy for your first 10 turns (bum rush Clan Eshin as hard as you can otherwise they will stomp you). Immortal Empires has changed Imrik into one of the easiest starts by far!
at 5:30 unless i'm mistaken the value of trading a settlement increases with the value of the buildings in a settlement. Meaning if you want to use it as a bargaining chip, you should develop it so you get more diplomatic value when you try to pawn it off to them and more likely to get the deal you're aiming for.
I even had negative diplomatic value when trying to trade off a ruin to another faction since their "Main Threat" modifier kicked in for -5 and the settlement ruin was only worth 4,7 (i think), meaning it actually worsened my position when dealing with them. As soon as i developed the settlement a bit, i got a lot more out of it when trading.
Yea the AI will pay you way more for a settlement that isnt straight garbage.
This *Seems* to include unique building chains. Such as the ones you might find in Vauls Anvil's. Eataine paid me almost 20K for a Vauls Anvil that didnt even have the unique building yet. He wouldnt pay me more than 10K for ANY other settlement and i sold him like the entire dark elf region.
First, you know I love these and I watch even if I think I already have a good handle on the issue. Second, thanks for telling people to take a settlement as a watch tower. For myself, once Skaven were introduced in WH2, I never razed anything because I could never be sure where the Skaven were. It’s much better to take the settlement, even if unfavorable red terrain, simply build the the single level, and then leave it. If you are given time, then build the resource or money building and make a tiny bit on it, if you can, or just untax it to lower the chance of rebellion. And if rebellion comes, that can be a great way to level up your second or third army doing guard duty while you are focusing on advancing in whatever else direction you are going. THIRD, you can still make a Brocken province work, either for a resource or minor money, but more importantly, for taking away resources or money from an enemy. Even if you only hold it for 5-10 turns before they take it back, or maybe 10-20 before you finally bring your full force to bear and take out the rest of the settlements, you have denies that location to another faction.
I've been playing immortal empires religiously this past week. It's such a big step up from mortal empires
Very good for newcomers! Great job, Zerk. One point I would like to add upon is campaign victory - not just Long one but the Ultimate, too. Which can be done separately from any other and only after End Times have triggered.
I just started playing the IE campaigns, bought the 3 base games on the winter sals and I was quite lost on the campaigns, there's quite a few guides for specific ones out there, but those take out the fun of experimentation.
This kind of general guide was exactly what I was looking for, thanks!
Focus on winning your fights, if you start to lose , factions on the fence will start to declare war on you. Also, dont be afriad to raze a settlement, some factions love to rush in at occupy it, which can be a great opportunity for you to pounce and shift the momentum in a war!
Bait Lords are also great for pulling enemies out of position.
Put them in Force March if you can.
Played with Vlad and was already in Altdorf, then suddenly Taurox stopped me from moving on because of his Herdstones, my Orc Boyz from the east, although we were Allies, traded settlements and so on, they declared war on me to the point where ever faction around me declared war on me, Turn 50 or so. Had to totally focus on which settlement i keep und build walls etc. warhammer 3 is much more challenging than warhammer 2 from what I’ve seen and i like it a lot.
It is people say AI is passive true they're cowardly at times. But my experience in VH/N every campaign is War Declaration turn after turn by random Races and Factions. Ganking you from every direction, ad Mannfred and later I tried Festus is a nightmare!
I like it alot as well. I also feel like it is on alot of ways more fair. I find when you are winning on the campaign map the AI will either try to build up it's defenses in areas it controls or if desperate launch an attack with whatever they can. I also found the diplomatic relations tend to be better in this game than the others. The AI will seek peace at times. It feels a bit more realistic (as much as you could expect it you know deamons, undead, orks and of course Fantasy Germans 🤣
BROKEN. You wanted to say broken, not challenging. When whole world for no reason goes in war with you, it's broken, not challenging. And since diplo is a 💩💩💩 in WH, well... Almost no way to get peace, but kill every unfriendly thing
@@suriil9875 there is a reason why, but i realized it too late because i always forget to look in to the diplomacy screen and check out whats going on. I had situations where i got settlements for free because of good relationship etc.
I just started a few days ago, and learned my lesson on expanding too quickly on campaign 1 lmao
5:55 when doing this, dont forget to calculate the value of the settlement long-term vs what you get when trading it..
2k for a settlement that has an income of 200 per turn isnt a good deal (for you, the seller).
In 11 turns you would have earned more money in total by just letting it sit and rot idle. And thats nothing in a 500+ turn campaign.
So in that case it would actually be better to literally pay them 1k for the non agression pact, since that settlement would pay that back in 5 turns for "free".
Certainly a fair point. Although not sure I'd get a Non-Aggression for 1k but yeah, you're right. For me though, I just prefer to get the security and focus on fighting the wars I'm in. I'm personally not that efficient with money. Dats not da Orc way.
Nice tip, I would add that in some situation, it can be a good deal. Sometimes, you can't afford to wait 11 turns or you may need that 2k right away to build a emergency army or something. You access your situation and figure out if it a good deal or not, that what make this game so fun for me
Most people don't even reach the 150 turns in any given campaign before they move on and my man is talking about 500+ turns...
@@MaSOneTwo That man speaks facts
Zerk is probably used to playing legendary in TWW2 and it would be impossible to maintain public order in a lone settlement. However with the public order changes in TWW3 and a begginer playing in normal / hard it shouldn't be a problem
Love the content, lucky I got here early after being Rick rolled by Tariff. Love the little tips too, especially since I'm loving my Malus Darkblade campaign
Bro same thing, weird
Just as planned
Malus is next on my list to f*ck with no pleasure. 10 turns. He's gone.
Same thing, strange
The most important element in expanding your territory is also the speed of movement between your cities. In highly concentrated spaces like around Altdorf and Drakenhof, a single army can get to 4 different settlements in one turn and 7 in two, meaning that you can defend very efficiently - you need fewer armies and fewer walls. Meanwhile if your area is highly spread out, even a single province may take multiple turns to navigate meaning you must be much more defensive, need to invest heavily in walls, and have to decide which are most worth defending. What makes the Eltharion and Imrik HE campaigns so challenging and so fun is that you are constantly on the defensive, because you're surrounded by enemies who outnumber your armies and need to find a way to expand while under constant pressure at all times.
I think Lustria particularly suffers from this, since, especially central-southeastern Lustria is all Marsh and other hard to move through stuff, actually getting armies around is tough.
7:41 sometimes it doesn't matter if the enemy will retake the settlements back, if you do a big push and sack and capture the settlements of your enemy the buildings will be at tier 1 or 2 if they recapture them. So their economy will fail over time and their armies will not be able to recruit tier 3 units because they will not have tier 3 buildings. They will become so much easier to beat. I use this strategy against Sylvania most of the times.
Unless your playing against the Skaven who can just instantly bum rush a low-tier shanty town into a high-tier giga fortress as soon as they capture it just by using some bread and meat
@@justforrow yeah I love sacking Skaven settlements for that reason, it’s like a gold farm
You know on harder dif AI doest give a f about money right?
Settlements in broken provinces make nice gifts for potential allies too. It's a nice way to get non-aggression/trade agreements, as well as the added benefit of having a buffer between yourself and your enemy. :)
I really hope that they move the province settlements around before they get to the final version. I really hate having a settlement on the left in the building manager, but it's on the right of the other settlements on the map.
Alternatively just play as Khorne, and raze every minor settlement while occupying only major ones, then you focus everything on developing the major one, while not caring if some random army snatches your minor settlements for a short time.
On the very last point in the video. Raze the settlement!
“Conan, what is good in life?”
Interesting thing about chaos factions, mostly the Mono Gods, is that their Public order is a non issue due to how it works, meaning you don't have to worry for public order but, its still good to keep in mind they still suffer from other issues, but can usually expand more...but problem is they will be ganged up on very very quickly. Broken Providences can also be used greatly to force your ally into becoming your vassal if your already on good terms with them, this can also help prevent any unnecessary wars or aggressions towards you due to separate diplomatic ties...but also makes it so you can better control your ally into doing what you want...in the case of Kairos I never though of not only giving a settlement to my Flaming Scribes but to take the capital settlement of the providence so that I can have them then develop it and defend me and it from the northern skink tribes while having the Vassal Agreement, as the settlement will definitely cement your control over them even if their a dozen or so in the red for the agreement.
What I like to do, when I have a single part of a Province: I recruit a Lord, let him stay in this one settlement (sometimes with some cheap Troops as support), try to lower public order even further so that an Army spawns. Kill it and through that level a Leader for my future Armies, when I have the financial ressources to build one.
Attack the army once, delete units you do not want to see again, then let one unit and a badly damaged lord escape. The next turn, they will get three or four new units and you can kill those, again killing the units that annoy you most. Experience earned for lords only depends on the type of victory and not on the amount of enemies killed, so you can fight just an enemy lord and see him run off the field and still have good xp. So defeating that one army once every turn but letting some live can get you good xp fast
@@sjonnieplayfull5859 I still found this a good way to level Lords, even if youre not at war. A steady source of exp if you will. Sometimes its better to focus on economy and not war, and thats where you still can get high level Lords without declaring war. It doesnt apply to all species and playstyles, but for some, it´ll make a huge difference.
i always think of my sylvanian families toys when i go up against sylvania lol
Great guide! Though there is actually one faction that benefits pretty highly from broken province thanks to the reworked corruption mechanics. Skaven.
At low skaven corruption, you get +5 control and +3 food. No other corruption matters for this, and a lot of corruption types actually suppress it at high level, for example, high chaos corruption gives -5 to all other corruption.
Combine that with how every skaven building gives income, and getting a minor settlement in a province you have no other interest in is great. Build it up with walls, and it serves as food, money, and a pretty effective deterrence for enemies with little/no risk of rebellion.
Yeah.
Especially since Skaven usually can get along with Chaos.
Also gives you easy Undercities, which have a few extra benefits
great video zekovich! can you also mention when to spawn an another army during the campaign in a video? I always struggle with that
Rapid expansion too early is a problem I'm trying to rectify right now in my Alith Anar campaign. That and my friend dragging his Beastman's Chaos Corruption riddled nut sack through my territory to get to the Sword of Khaine. I think I'll do as you've suggested and sell some territories back to the AI through diplomacy. Maybe I can get the north to leave me alone for a minute or two.
I expanded north into the snow to help the aforementioned friend, and I've just been putting out fires left and right trying to stabilize. What I needed to do was instead wipe out the Tomb Kings to the west, so I control everything from the west edge of the map to my capital, shutting off threats from that side for good.
If you get caught off guard by an enemy stack (ie. A flanking enemy army while you're beelining to their capital) you can raze/abandon a settlement then let the ai resettle it, severely weakening their army
The way I expanding usually find which neighboring faction that friendly to me and which one is not friendly and I attack the one that is not friendly to me, so that way I know my border is secure from attack while I expand.
Heres a tip if you have green in diplomacy and want make do the auto balance the max you can get from demanding money is 2000 but if you use the auto balance it has no limits.
I also like to take single regions that are on chokepoints. With most factions, getting a settlement to lvl 2 is relatively easy and a small army with a settlement garrison can defend pretty well. The AI will usually just siege for a lot of turns so you have time to help or they may decide to attack and you can use the towers
One of the more difficult ones as a start is Kemmler, due to the way his starting province is geographically split up. You have to go through three different faction owners to get to Grung Zint. Compared to a lot of faction starts, this one is more difficult to unite your starting province.
You didn’t even mention the most important thing to remember: NEVER expand into Cathay. That shit is like fantasy Vietnam. 😳
just endless hordes of peasant chaff?
@@wilma_balls cathayans are the least of your problems. Weird settlement placement, river traversal, roaming lizardmen hordes, lokhir being a general dick, helman raiding from the south, greasus declaring war whenever he feels like it, desert attrition, wood elves in the southeast and of course, clan eshin
@@_Morph1ne_ And don't forget Chaos ignoring the existence of the Bastion and just teleporting armies onto you.
What if Cathay expands into you OO
It is also important to mention that if you become too big to quickly you generate threat and other factions will be more likely to declare war on you. It has to be considered for confededation for instance.
I used to always occupy settlements, now I Sack then Occupy on the same turn. I take that money and use it upgrade my main provinces that provide the most income. I found this to be the most effective way of continuing on without getting bogged down. Also, build armies as your income increases, don't just build an army from scratch at the last minute when you need it, start with a few soldiers and increase the army size slowly, that way you can respond to enemies and defend with it.
Only time I'd recommend razing a settlement is if it's one you know you cannot support and is too dangerous/overextended. Let the enemy take spend the cost to take it and then take it from them so you don't have to use the resources.
My first play through in a total war game was Nakai. And man it really is a different game. I just wandered around taking settlements, no thoughts at all.
My problem is, when I get a full province and I leave it 5 minutes alone to get my seconds. Others come to get a city of it where I have to walk all the way back to recapture it till I got this they already have a second city and so I am just running behind the attackers to get my citys back again and just moving in circles.
I always build garrison buildings as soon as available in every region. I've learned too many times the hard way that Beastmen and Skaven pop up anywhere, once a Waaagh! breaches it cuts a swath through your most vulnerable stuff, etc. It just generally makes taking your territory a slog for the enemy.
Not really a problem in TWW3 in my experience as long as you build a rift blocking building in every province
I'm shit at the game, but I'd love a video with your tips on army management in campaign. I.e., when to raise a new army, what to think about when putting it together, how to take a well-defended walled settlement, when to disband, how to refill your stack efficiently, when to just let it sit somewhere, when to switch out Lords, etc.
The best thing ive heard for WHEN you recruit a new army.
Is WHEN you NEED it.
It seems simple but its also very easy to mismanage and destroy your economy or have your faction destroyed because you didnt utilise your economy.
Think he has a guide on army composition. Main point: take what works for you and what you like. If artillery works but it kills the fun, go for the cavalry that makes you happy, or the other way around.
What is your strategy? Move around the enemy with fast units while the rest of the army hides? Burn the enemy with magic while a tough frontline shields your mages? Hamer and anvil all the way?
Try to group units together, so your lord skills best buff the army, and build the army with a goal/ enemy in mind. Should you create a one-trick pony, make sure you send it to an enemy that can not hard counter it. It is useful to have one or two fast units to wipe out enemy units that start running. Not coming back to the fight is good. Not coming to the next fight is even better.
Keep an eye on upkeep. Find out what upkeep for your current army is and if you can afford another one a little more expensive and still have money left for buildings. If you can, time to start an army. If you can't, upgrade your income buildings. Also: if you have an army, use it. Else it is only money doing nothing.
Train your lords. If you are not ready to take on another enemy yet, you might toy with the last one: loot their last settlement, but don't capture or raze. Lords and heroes get a fixed amount of xp for a battle, independent of enemy numbers. A good victory over one enemy lord is just as much xp as a victory over a full stack, so try to get more of those. Also: don't kill the enemy lord in the first battle. The enemy gets a free 100% hp lord for the next battle. Instead, take down his hp to 500 or less, then let him run. Next battle he will break at the first or second hit, die at the fourth, dealing a blow to enemy morale and removing an anchorstone from their defense
Good luck & have fun!
Id defintely emphasize increasing your global recruitment capacity and reducing its recruit times. If you start early, later on when you're over-stretched you will have the ability to raise a full sized decent army in a single turn! That way defense won't hinder your expansion
@@youtubedeletedmynamewhybother To expand on this, it comes down to what are you doing with your money. Build too many armies up too quickly and you're not building up your empire. Spending it all on building up your empire and not on the armies just means you're developing those provinces for the AI.
There are certain factions that like building tall and building wide, but the reason why I really don't think that a guide would work is that each faction approaches their economy so differently (even within the different races) that you'd need to have a general guide for each.
@@youtubedeletedmynamewhybother great tip, man. Appreciate the help.
Another example of why I always send newbies to your channel when they ask for tips, quality vid Mr Zerk.
Though I was triggered af when you were trading that settlement and you manually asked for gold, that "balance trade" button is a god damn gift from the allmighty lol
Me: Declares Waaagh & expands in all directions at once as fast as possible.
I wish I watched this video when I first started I had to learn all these lessons the hard way, and still do.
I found Bitter Bay to be absolutely not worht keeping as Imrik due to the 100 points of skaven corruption on the province. It was impossible to maintain control of
This is the best tip you will ever get (always build growth - stack it as much as you can). Growth is the most important thing in the game. If you can't afford to upgrade your main setttlement buildings, start sacking when you conquer, then trade the sacked settlements to an ally for gold + standing.
Extra growth is stored and when you have enough - getting to level 5 main building is the goal.
I enjoy trying to not do what the game nudges me to do. Capture first province? Naa, Imma try allying with my natural enemies, and just try to do something weird. Thats what I love about Total War games, its a sandbox :) Allying the empire as vampire counts bears some challenges of course...
My experience is that most campaigns devolve rapidly into a chain of resolving defensive wars by whip9ng out the aggressors
Another good idea is to look at how suitable an area is for your race if you dont know where to expand. If possible try to stay on green areas and avoid red ones, especially in the early turns of a campaign.
It’s hard to imagine not having settlement trading now. That and being able to abandon settlements. Rebellion in two turns? - how about ruin in one 😈
I just push like crazy but only put money into stuff I can actually keep. If you're not fighting you're falling behind.
Very cool idea for the video! Looking forward for the build province video
"I want to give newer players an example province in this video to help teach them how to expand effectively. Oh I know, I'll go with the province with settlements named Khazid Irkulaz, Karak Ungor and Karak Raziak."
Which way I expand tends to depend on which order morons declare war on me
Any plans for a video explaining when to Sack/Raze
My path of expansion in the early game depends on the following factors:
1) Who declares war on me.
2) Climate/corruption - usually in the early game I try to avoid expanding into red territory or areas with high corruption.
3) Who I will meet diplomaticly - I avoid expanding into areas were I will meet aggresive AI factions that will dislike me.
4) Terrain - For example terrain such jungle, mountain and marches consume alot of campaign movement range.
5) How easy the enemy is to fight - usually I avoid fighting enemies that are strong on the battle field like Ogres, Wood Elves or Skaven.
I like these videos. Even though I am an advanced player. I sometimes learn something new. So thanks.
Question, how do i net get everyone declaring war on me? In one turn as gelt I had the dwarfs next to me, the vampires, orcs just out the gate and an elector count all start on me
I use to play steam roll. but now I only expand base on the situation at hand and how much money I have to produce the expedition forces and the provincial protection forces.
The graphics, the details on Aszhag looks incredible. How do you achieve that?
If you can't hold a settlement, you should sometimes gift land to your allies or friendlies for diploma points.
I was playing the game wrong from Rome TW!! Thank you advisor!
Nice vid - I wanted to know are you adversely affected if you have provinces that aren’t actually bordering each other (etc another faction is controlling a landmass between your controlled areas)
Hi @Zerkovich, could you please share what resolution and video settings you are playing at, what's your fps and your gaming spec?
I normally end up over-expanding in my campaigns. It becomes one war after another and just end up taking territory from the factions I am at war with
Anyone else experienced the love of the grimgor vs Kolec ? Dragon shagoths each time he comes back even if he has a tier 1 settlement
Kolec and Sigvold are just a nuisance. Straight up 1 turn wound recovery time.
You wipe their 20 stack of T5 Chosen, spawn and armoured chaos trolls. Only for that exact same lord to come out of the fog of war 2 turns later with the exact same stack of units INCLUDING Regiments of renown that you just killed.
And thats on normal difficulty.
Has the AI improved at all? How is balance in immortal empires? Waiting to start a multiplayer campaign until I hear balance is good
Does your faction’s suitable climate affect where is best to expand?
So how do I not have 5 different factions declare war on me at turn 10? I played Kislev and that happened after just expanding on some skaven.
Very cool guide, im shure it works great. Except when i play Kislev and start with Ostland, Nurgle, rats, tree men and Azhag coming for you around turn 10, expanding gets a bit difficult.
Basic but useful. Looking forward to efficent building up of settlements.
loot & occupy > abandon > repeat; then colonies the ruins you've made after wiping your enemy out especially when they use Underway mechanics.
i must admit i love all your videos and your "on point explanation", hopefully i will be able to play and win a campaign as i dream of since TWWH1 where i lost with dwarfs in their easy campaign on all of my attempts ... :D
Seems like by the time I get together an economy and start building my industrial-military complex the Empire is in ruins and the Dawi are dead.
In immortal empires campaign (BETA), would it also help to try to defeat the main army of the faction before going after settlements as part of the expansion?
depends on where the main army is located. If they are out of their province, then you expand and conquer. This will eventually make the enemy army go back which gives you a good position to defend or ambush.
I would like a guide where allies are not included because in my experience, it seems whenever I have a major faction as an enemy when they have 2 settlements they field like 5 armies but when they are my ally, I see them getting clapped by someone and severely lacking any armies like no attempt to make an army.
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Also take and hold is usually better because with the AI, it seems you cannot financially break them so exterminating them is a better option and if I don't exterminate the faction, then I won't be able to rest easy. Though depending on the faction you playing within the Ordertide roster, you may have to kill off all of your neighbors and quickly or they will suddenly go to war with you and start a blitzkrieg against you. Then another neighbor goes to war with me because I became a strategic threat due to me having to blitzkrieg against another faction.
And the "don't over expand" is a hard selling tip because the AI has more benefits than I do and I need some of the higher tier units to keep up.
I've got neatly 1500 hours in warhammer2 and 3. I'm still guilty of overexpanding.
Thing is you kinda have to a lot of the time.
If you're not Hyper-Turbo-over expanding to wipe out Sigvolds faction, you can *Guarantee* he'll be back every 3 turns with another 20 stack filled with regiments of renown. Same with Belakor.
Either you over extend and wipe them out instantly. Or you spend the rest of the campaign fighting LL's with 1 turn wound recovery timers.
This is probably what we most needed
Can you do a vid on expansion with vassals on how to use them correctly?
I've never done more than just blitz everything and if I lose a settlement I'll have gained more by being aggressive so it's worth it.
In the middle of a Slaanesh campaign, and my god I've been at war with another Slaanesh faction for about 100 turns. Literally a cat and mouse game.
My problem is that i LOVE playing tall. One-two provinces and rest vasalls or alliances. It's sometimes boring but i always do it lol.
He went from shitting on broken provinces then gave examples of how great they can be, lol.
damn i really need the province guide video like yesterday. i only kinda got the gist of it
Awesome video ! Even as a vet player nice recap
I'm on turn 58, I have like 20-30 provinces, all the towns I have give me gold, so I can afford like 6 full armies to defend it all. So I don't see that there's a big problem with over expansion. Or?
In some cases not emidiatly taking your starting province in the first 5 turns can completely lock you out of the game unless you have everything on easy.
Another Tip, don‘t occupy settlements when armies of the enemy are nearby. If they attack you, you have no garrison and your army is maybe half full. Not every enemy but for example Valkia, she fucked me up many times by standing nearby.
You can occupy and then step out right after... so if they attack the settlement u just retreat
@@jaybee8862 thats right, but your settlement is gone.
@@Carinthian_Oak well... I mean... u just stole it from someone else...
Not really a big deal to lose land u haven't invested in yet
@@jaybee8862 yeah but you loose money and troops for nothing. Better to just destroy the settlement
Does the AI find more value in you offering them a settlement that has some money and building put into it or does that effect anything at all?
It seems to, yes. I managed to vassalize Archaeon by giving him a major settlement which I had built up pretty heavily, even though the settlement was basically worthless to him since it wasn't a dark fortress.
Dobt try to hold what you cant hold. Scutrle the buildings and reorg.
zerkovich is there a faction for playing tall in warhammer 3 ?
Some of the more civilised good guys perhaps. Cathay or High Elves. Wood Elves maybe cus they don't like leaving their trees.
the way you pronounce Nagashizzar is great
Question, if I'm getting war declared on me and I win a city should I raze it instead of taking it? I find the computer just mass declares war on me and I'm just trying to deal with fires I didn't start.
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Try declaring war on very distant factions.
IF you are not participating in enough wars by certain timeframes the AI will declare wars for you. Regardless of your power level or even who your allies are.
Basically once every 10-20 turns roughly just go into your diplomacy and see if you can declare/Join war on a faction thats on the other side of the map, or so far away that they wont be a problem until many many turns from now.
By doing this you can formulate allies too, by joining their wars and getting them to pay you for it. Which can help to bolster your more vulnerable territory when they are defending the outskirts for you.
obviously some lords/factions are going to be better and worse than others at this though^
When you're a demon surrounded by order-tide it can be pretty rough.
@@youtubedeletedmynamewhybother interesting I didn't know this...I was playing a boris campaign and just got fed up with fighting wars on two fronts and only having 1 army able to win a fight.
@@miragegaming984 To be fair Kislev is one of the factions that have it a bit harder than a lot of others. But yea its a useful thing to know.
how do you draw on the map like that?
so now you can TRADE territories? been a while since i saw this mechanic
You forgot to answer the real question, why do you do with your main army while you are building the settlement.
Raid your next target? disband some of the shaft? Spam battles?