Watch collecting like any hobby is about an emotion...does the product elicit an emotion worth the price tag...for me and my 7” wrists....the form factor is spot on!!! It ain’t no Daytona but I don’t have deep pockets to justify that purchase...seiko FTW
My My Speedtimer SSC813 arrived yesterday direct from Seiko and I could not be happier with it. Perfect size and just beautiful. Dress up with the bracelet or go daytime /sportswear with a black strap.
Received the new Seiko SpeedTimer SSC813 Panda Dial this morning from an AD located in Maryland, USA. Got a pretty good deal at 21% off MSRP. A stunning chronograph, very pleased with the quality. Thrilled to add it to my collection!
Well made video! Thank you! I think i actually read somewhere, that the bezel is indeed out of ceramic or ceramic coated. I myself love mechanical watches but if you want a mechanical watch with this complexity, you have to pay thousands... And as this is Seiko, wich brought the first quartz to the market back then. I think it's totally fine for it to have a quartz movement.
Excellent, sober review. Hoping to pick one up for around $500 when they're back in stock and on sale, or hit the used market. It looks fantastic- and separates itself from many modern chronos with the reasonable case size. Subbed- hoping to see more great content like this in the future!
I got the SBDL085 (JDM version) for $404 USD including shipping not long ago (Apr 2023), so yeah waiting will definitely pay off. Fantastic watch for the price, or even if it was $500 USD, it looks and feels great.
Very good video. The only issue I had was when you mentioned the price. Everybody in the Seiko community knows that the prices of Seiko Prospex, hell, just Seiko watches in general, have gone up big time in the last 5 years. Now that they are adding sapphire crystals and sometimes ceramic bezels, or even diashield to make bracelets harder to scratch, Prospex models have gone past the $400 price point you mentioned for this particular watch. Seiko makes excellent watches, and people will pay the price for the next hot Seiko model.
Yes, things like price are relative. If Seiko priced these prospex models too high, then of course we would not see certain models sell out so quickly. Thanks for the comment !
If you have any doubts about the quality of this watch, especially about the bracelet, I suggest that you visit a seller and hold it in your hands. It is an amazingly well buit watch. Bracelet too is great. The "play" in the bracelet links is probably a design feature. It makes the differemce in comfort between a "bracelet" and a heavy "bangle".
Yeah. I feel the same way. I think they mean where it meets the case. I don't have a problem with it. Just glad to not have hollow end links and stamped clasp lol.
These are the whiny ones among us who cannot afford a decent watch themselves, but they will rip off everything they can wherever they can. Also the nonsense about the 24 hour function...terrible
Its a nice watch that would look even nicer on a vintage leather rally strap imo. That bracelet doesn't fit well, on every review I have seen you can see the spring bars through a tiny gap. It is a lot of money, $1050 AUD for a quartz solar chrono though. Nice review ...
Sugess Mechanical Chronograph with the 7750 from their Grand line (£300 ish) makes this Seiko look very expensive. I do prefer solar powered movements to regular quartz and don't really get why the battery type isn't obsolete. Interesting look at this obviously popular design
I've really enjoyed this overview of the new SSC 813 Solar SpeedTimer Chronograph. Very well done and your "On Wrist" shots are superior to many other channels in that they're on screen longer and you've taken care to show all angles (My favorite angle is always the shot down the forearm which gives a fair representation of watch height how it appears in every day wearing.) My concerns are the (nearly) lack of micro adjustments for sizing and, contrary to many opinions, the relatively small 39mm case diameter. My preference would be to size this particular case at 42 to 43mm. Everything else is just as you say, very desirable. Namely the brushing, polishing, milled clasp, sapphire single dome crystal with a blue AR coating along with what looks on screen to be a ceramic tachymeter bezel. I've seen the other 3 colourways for sale at around $500 USD. However this factor is moot B/C I've not seen the "Panda" for sale at all in the last couple months. Maybe in the future? I hope so. You've easily earned a like and a new subscriber! Keep up the great work, your presentation is excellent. Cheers, Tim
Thanks for the comment! I see some panda versions on ebay usa in new condition for around 600$ but yeah, that's about 150$ more than the other colorways. Coincidently I am wearing the watch today. Seiko added some nice touches with this watch like the patina colored lume and the charge indicator. Still love having it in the collection but the quartz movement is running a little fast for my liking but it's within specs.
the size is indeed something to consider. i'm a woman - granted not super petite, but not hefty by any means either - and it looks perfect on my wrist. I do think if you're an average to taller-sized Western man it may end up looking a bit small.
@@1983simi You may have a point. Traditionally men's watches were much smaller than 38mm. Just like a watch can be too big for a wrist, I think one can look too small too. I have a 32mm Casio A168WA and it's a great watch but I feel it's just too small for my 6 3/4 inch wrist. A 38mm watch might be the equivalent for an over 7.5 inch Men's wrist.
@@watchify1775 Well I got lucky and found a NIB SSC813 for a decent discount. Just pulled the trigger so will see how I like it when it arrives. Question on sizing. Is the bracelet pin and collar or pins? I hate those pin and collars. Thanks
The reason for the high price is because this model has been a limited edition and there are no plans to manufacture it again, at least not this model. My brother works for Seiko Chuo-ku, Tokyo, Japan. There are still some of the SSC813 [white panda] 'New' in Stock on eBay, few hurry before you regret it...
I don't see "limited edition" wording anywhere on my watch. Normally it would be seen on case back. Also other sites mentioning these solar speedtimers are not limited. twobrokewatchsnobs.com/seiko-prospex-speedtimer-solar-chronograph-ssc813-ssc815-ssc817-ssc819/
Does this watch come with a leather or NATO band? I heard that the lugs are specially designed for the bracelet. What do you make of the 24 hour dial, I would have preferred a 1/10 sec or 1/5 sec dial.
No I have only seen it come on a bracelet. The lugs are not specially designed for bracelet. Some complain about the end links fitment to case but I don't have any issue with it, I like the 24 hr sub dial. If I was heavily into timing sports events maybe I would prefer a sub second dial
Honestly the one it comes with looks ceramic to me. If the bezel really was ceramic, it would likely crack the first time it gets any impact. It is exposed whereas a ceramic bezel insert is protected on its sides by steel bezel
well done, detailed review. I also have the seiko honeycomb panda, and it's a great watch for the price. Does this speedtimer have the same quick pin removal system that the honeycomb chrono does? I hope so. I agree that the watch is overpriced, but unfortunately that didn't stop me from impulse buying it. It just looks killer!!!
This is a great looking well built solar timepiece. However, I heard the movement is non-hacking if that's the case it can't really taken that seriously as a chrono.
99% of things are made in china these days if u dont know, now u know. China, Malaysia, Thailand etc. Made in Japan means japan supervisor check it before it goes to the market for sale. This is the world we live unfortunately.
That is the same problem with the cheaper Swatch stuff from Tissot, Hamilton, Mido, etc. Getting a Swiss Watch doesn't necessarily mean its 100% Swiss Made. I always thought a lot of Seiko's cheaper solar and automatic watches were made in Malaysia. Could be wrong though.
You mean on your watch? On mine pressing the top button to start stopwatch does feel different than lower one. The lower one has more resistance and makes more of a sound when pressed
@@watchify1775 so I've been ringing around many jewellers and have finally landed one. The jewellery store owner was keeping it for himself however he said has so many watches he never wears he was happy ro part with it. So happy.
Availability for this model still looks low. You can also search for model SBDL085 as it's same watch. I see one at retail price here >> japan-select.com/collections/seiko-prospex/products/seiko-prospex-speedtimer-sbdl085-limited-edition-made-in-japan-jdm
Wish it was all made in Japan with a better movement. No way is that good value for 6r with watch made in Thailand and band from China. Sieko have lost the plot a bit
Regardless of the quality, 500 for yet another Daytona wannabe? No thanks. The cheaper one you showed has originality. Matter of fact, I had ordered it a few days ago and got it today not long before watching this vid. In the end, to each their own. I just cringe at the idea of being asked “is that a rolex daytona?” And having to say no. Thanks for the content.
Here are the ways it’s a Daytona “wannabe”; it’s a chronograph and the panda color scheme. Everything else is completely different; subdial functions and color scheme, solar vs automatic, case shape, case size, bracelet style among other things. I’m not wearing my Daytona to work and would never put it on a nato strap, and I can do both with the speedtimer. I own an Oris Aquis Calibre 400, is it a submariner wannabe? It obviously is not despite both being divers, sapphire glass, ceramic bezel, and 300m water resistance
@@watchify1775 I’d buy one if it was thinner, not sure if it’s the solar that requires the extra space. Thinner with a standard quartz would have been a winner.
Another overpriced Seiko. This watch is not even made in Japan. "Japan mvtm" is the lowest tier between "Japan mvmt", "Swiss mvmt", "Made in Japan" and "Swiss made".
Hell no its not worth the price, it's too small and dainty, it's a little girl watch. Not to mention, I have yet to see one with a Made in Japan stamp. It's nothing but a mutt. A little girl mutt.
I forgot to mention the date window between 4 and 5 oclock! It's easy to miss :)
Watch collecting like any hobby is about an emotion...does the product elicit an emotion worth the price tag...for me and my 7” wrists....the form factor is spot on!!! It ain’t no Daytona but I don’t have deep pockets to justify that purchase...seiko FTW
My My Speedtimer SSC813 arrived yesterday direct from Seiko and I could not be happier with it. Perfect size and just beautiful. Dress up with the bracelet or go daytime /sportswear with a black strap.
Nice. I saw that recent announcement from Seiko that they had them back in stock on their website
Received the new Seiko SpeedTimer SSC813 Panda Dial this morning from an AD located in Maryland, USA. Got a pretty good deal at 21% off MSRP. A stunning chronograph, very pleased with the quality. Thrilled to add it to my collection!
Would you mind sharing the name of retailer ?
Well made video! Thank you!
I think i actually read somewhere, that the bezel is indeed out of ceramic or ceramic coated.
I myself love mechanical watches but if you want a mechanical watch with this complexity, you have to pay thousands...
And as this is Seiko, wich brought the first quartz to the market back then. I think it's totally fine for it to have a quartz movement.
I was going to buy a fake Daytona for $500 but might as well get one of these. Love Seiko watches.
I got one recently - agree one of my favourites to wear
Excellent, sober review. Hoping to pick one up for around $500 when they're back in stock and on sale, or hit the used market. It looks fantastic- and separates itself from many modern chronos with the reasonable case size. Subbed- hoping to see more great content like this in the future!
I got the SBDL085 (JDM version) for $404 USD including shipping not long ago (Apr 2023), so yeah waiting will definitely pay off. Fantastic watch for the price, or even if it was $500 USD, it looks and feels great.
Solid review, good job. Answered all my questions about this watch.
I wish the minute hand was a bit more broad, might have looked better.
Very good video. The only issue I had was when you mentioned the price. Everybody in the Seiko community knows that the prices of Seiko Prospex, hell, just Seiko watches in general, have gone up big time in the last 5 years.
Now that they are adding sapphire crystals and sometimes ceramic bezels, or even diashield to make bracelets harder to scratch, Prospex models have gone past the $400 price point you mentioned for this particular watch. Seiko makes excellent watches, and people will pay the price for the next hot Seiko model.
Yes, things like price are relative. If Seiko priced these prospex models too high, then of course we would not see certain models sell out so quickly. Thanks for the comment !
If you have any doubts about the quality of this watch, especially about the bracelet, I suggest that you visit a seller and hold it in your hands. It is an amazingly well buit watch. Bracelet too is great. The "play" in the bracelet links is probably a design feature. It makes the differemce in comfort between a "bracelet" and a heavy "bangle".
I don't know y so many reviewers complain abt the bracelet not matching the case design. I don't see an issue here !!!!!!
Yeah. I feel the same way. I think they mean where it meets the case. I don't have a problem with it. Just glad to not have hollow end links and stamped clasp lol.
These are the whiny ones among us who cannot afford a decent watch themselves, but they will rip off everything they can wherever they can. Also the nonsense about the 24 hour function...terrible
Its a nice watch that would look even nicer on a vintage leather rally strap imo. That bracelet doesn't fit well, on every review I have seen you can see the spring bars through a tiny gap. It is a lot of money, $1050 AUD for a quartz solar chrono though. Nice review ...
Yeah it's a lot. Saw it today for $945 AUD. Should really be a $400 watch in my opinion. But for a daytona homage maybe it's not too bad.
I bought this watch it is beautiful full and really looks good on my wrist I also get lots of compliments I got it on sale at 25% off the 675
No one has noticed mine yet 😥. Good job on that price though 👍
The model with reference SBDL085 are Made in Japan , these are for Japan Market only
Sugess Mechanical Chronograph with the 7750 from their Grand line (£300 ish) makes this Seiko look very expensive. I do prefer solar powered movements to regular quartz and don't really get why the battery type isn't obsolete. Interesting look at this obviously popular design
The SSC817 with the beige or John Player Special dial looks the most interesting. Close second is the SSC815 with blue dial.
Titan Carbid is the mat of the bezel. Nice review of a great watch
Biggest complaint for me would be the bracelet which doesn't seem like the right match for the watch head
I wish I could have a radio control feature.
Oh like some Citizen models? I don't have any watches with that feature.
I bought the black one, because the white was sold out everwhere and got the black on with a black friday deal for 500 euros.
Good price
Yeah - that is a good price. The black one looks nice too
Thanks yeah, why buy full retail for color only
THANK You for the excellent review. I am buying one today!
That's great. I'm seeing them for around 540$ USD new from sellers on ebay now which is much less than I paid :|
I've really enjoyed this overview of the new SSC 813 Solar SpeedTimer Chronograph. Very well done and your "On Wrist" shots are superior to many other channels in that they're on screen longer and you've taken care to show all angles (My favorite angle is always the shot down the forearm which gives a fair representation of watch height how it appears in every day wearing.) My concerns are the (nearly) lack of micro adjustments for sizing and, contrary to many opinions, the relatively small 39mm case diameter. My preference would be to size this particular case at 42 to 43mm. Everything else is just as you say, very desirable. Namely the brushing, polishing, milled clasp, sapphire single dome crystal with a blue AR coating along with what looks on screen to be a ceramic tachymeter bezel. I've seen the other 3 colourways for sale at around $500 USD. However this factor is moot B/C I've not seen the "Panda" for sale at all in the last couple months. Maybe in the future? I hope so. You've easily earned a like and a new subscriber! Keep up the great work, your presentation is excellent. Cheers, Tim
Thanks for the comment! I see some panda versions on ebay usa in new condition for around 600$ but yeah, that's about 150$ more than the other colorways. Coincidently I am wearing the watch today. Seiko added some nice touches with this watch like the patina colored lume and the charge indicator. Still love having it in the collection but the quartz movement is running a little fast for my liking but it's within specs.
the size is indeed something to consider. i'm a woman - granted not super petite, but not hefty by any means either - and it looks perfect on my wrist. I do think if you're an average to taller-sized Western man it may end up looking a bit small.
@@1983simi You may have a point. Traditionally men's watches were much smaller than 38mm. Just like a watch can be too big for a wrist, I think one can look too small too. I have a 32mm Casio A168WA and it's a great watch but I feel it's just too small for my 6 3/4 inch wrist. A 38mm watch might be the equivalent for an over 7.5 inch Men's wrist.
Love the watch but will have to wait as they are still selling over MSRP. Thanks for the review
ok that sucks - no prob !
@@watchify1775 Well I got lucky and found a NIB SSC813 for a decent discount. Just pulled the trigger so will see how I like it when it arrives. Question on sizing. Is the bracelet pin and collar or pins? I hate those pin and collars. Thanks
@@jimferry4751 Pin and collar. They are a pain but the general feeling is they hold the links more securely than just push pins can
The reason for the high price is because this model has been a limited edition and there are no plans to manufacture it again, at least not this model. My brother works for Seiko Chuo-ku, Tokyo, Japan. There are still some of the SSC813 [white panda] 'New' in Stock on eBay, few hurry before you regret it...
I don't see "limited edition" wording anywhere on my watch. Normally it would be seen on case back. Also other sites mentioning these solar speedtimers are not limited. twobrokewatchsnobs.com/seiko-prospex-speedtimer-solar-chronograph-ssc813-ssc815-ssc817-ssc819/
Very nice review, looks really nice! Cant really go wrong with panda dial
Reverse panda would be nice but I know not possible with solar movement
Got mone brand new for around $570. Got super lucky.
Is the 24 hour hand independently adjustable or stuck with the primary time? Would be a really nice feature having a second time zone. Nice video.
No - other people have wondered that. I don't see a way to adjust it manually nor did I see any mention of being able to do that in the V192 manual
@@watchify1775 bummer but thanks for the reply. Bit of a miss but still a great looking watch.
Does this watch come with a leather or NATO band? I heard that the lugs are specially designed for the bracelet. What do you make of the 24 hour dial, I would have preferred a 1/10 sec or 1/5 sec dial.
No I have only seen it come on a bracelet. The lugs are not specially designed for bracelet. Some complain about the end links fitment to case but I don't have any issue with it, I like the 24 hr sub dial. If I was heavily into timing sports events maybe I would prefer a sub second dial
Was really hoping they added ceramic to this for the bezel. I bought one and happy with it, but hoping someone brings a mod out for it.
Honestly the one it comes with looks ceramic to me. If the bezel really was ceramic, it would likely crack the first time it gets any impact. It is exposed whereas a ceramic bezel insert is protected on its sides by steel bezel
$100 or more above retail?? What a difference a year makes! I just bought this watch, brand-new, for $400
Your patience has paid off !😆
well done, detailed review. I also have the seiko honeycomb panda, and it's a great watch for the price. Does this speedtimer have the same quick pin removal system that the honeycomb chrono does? I hope so. I agree that the watch is overpriced, but unfortunately that didn't stop me from impulse buying it. It just looks killer!!!
Thanks! No, the links on this bracelet are held together with pins and collars.
@@watchify1775 that sucks, I hate pin and collar. Thanks for the update
You didn’t mention the date function 😐
This is a great looking well built solar timepiece. However, I heard the movement is non-hacking if that's the case it can't really taken that seriously as a chrono.
Seconds hand does hack. All quartz movements do to my knowledge
Imagine if it had a decent jubilee bracelet
Maybe strapcode or others will make bracelets for this watch if it continues to be popular. I actually like this oem bracelet though.
@@MPD90 link?
What do you think of the 39 size. Is it not too small on 7in wrest??
I think the watch would be good for that size wrist also.
Is this watch made in China? A lot of Seiko mid range watches are made and assembled in China.
99% of things are made in china these days if u dont know, now u know. China, Malaysia, Thailand etc. Made in Japan means japan supervisor check it before it goes to the market for sale. This is the world we live unfortunately.
No mention anywhere on watch or box regarding where this watch is made. Probably China or Thailand would be my guess
That is the same problem with the cheaper Swatch stuff from Tissot, Hamilton, Mido, etc. Getting a Swiss Watch doesn't necessarily mean its 100% Swiss Made. I always thought a lot of Seiko's cheaper solar and automatic watches were made in Malaysia. Could be wrong though.
It's made in the Philippines. Got mine a month ago although not in the US. But I have to say, it's a nice piece and the quality is there.
I think my biggest disappointment is the end link on the bracelet.
the top button doesn't click when pushed, is it ok?
You mean on your watch? On mine pressing the top button to start stopwatch does feel different than lower one. The lower one has more resistance and makes more of a sound when pressed
@@watchify1775 do you think it is ok? it seems weird to me having those two different feedbacks on two identical buttons
@@QCCQG doesnt bother me. actually hadnt noticed it before you mentioned it
Of course the watch is worth its price.
its nice but i think its a weee bit too expensive
Yup at 675$ - lowest price on ebay right now 845$ :)
@@watchify1775 in my country it retails at 760$ and is still available
At like 500 maybe...
Friggin sold out everywhere in the retail shops
That sucks - you are right. I checked just now from US and can only find it on ebay at inflated price
@@watchify1775 so I've been ringing around many jewellers and have finally landed one. The jewellery store owner was keeping it for himself however he said has so many watches he never wears he was happy ro part with it. So happy.
Where can i found new one for sell ?
Availability for this model still looks low. You can also search for model SBDL085 as it's same watch. I see one at retail price here >>
japan-select.com/collections/seiko-prospex/products/seiko-prospex-speedtimer-sbdl085-limited-edition-made-in-japan-jdm
Seiko needs to learn how to integrate a bracelet properly in the case.
Seems ok to me. I think you mean how the tops of end of lugs isn't flush with end link.
So not worth it, its a pass for me until they start using proper bracelets and at least color matched to the case.
Wish it was all made in Japan with a better movement. No way is that good value for 6r with watch made in Thailand and band from China. Sieko have lost the plot a bit
Got it for $300
Great deal on this watch. That seems too good to be true 😁
@@watchify1775 dude I just opened my box lmfao. Wrong one
It's the sbpy165 💀
@@watchify1775 welp. Guess il just buy the limited edition one and swap the bracelets
@@ABcd-bj7vh 😆
Is it hackable?
Yes
Regardless of the quality, 500 for yet another Daytona wannabe? No thanks. The cheaper one you showed has originality. Matter of fact, I had ordered it a few days ago and got it today not long before watching this vid. In the end, to each their own. I just cringe at the idea of being asked “is that a rolex daytona?” And having to say no.
Thanks for the content.
Here are the ways it’s a Daytona “wannabe”; it’s a chronograph and the panda color scheme. Everything else is completely different; subdial functions and color scheme, solar vs automatic, case shape, case size, bracelet style among other things. I’m not wearing my Daytona to work and would never put it on a nato strap, and I can do both with the speedtimer. I own an Oris Aquis Calibre 400, is it a submariner wannabe? It obviously is not despite both being divers, sapphire glass, ceramic bezel, and 300m water resistance
for $700 that bracelet looks like trash on the watch. looks like they found any bracelet that would fit and slapped it on.
It’s too thick.
Somehow it doesn't bother me on this watch. Some of that is from the domed crystal
@@watchify1775 I’d buy one if it was thinner, not sure if it’s the solar that requires the extra space. Thinner with a standard quartz would have been a winner.
Another overpriced Seiko. This watch is not even made in Japan. "Japan mvtm" is the lowest tier between "Japan mvmt", "Swiss mvmt", "Made in Japan" and "Swiss made".
Hell no its not worth the price, it's too small and dainty, it's a little girl watch. Not to mention, I have yet to see one with a Made in Japan stamp. It's nothing but a mutt. A little girl mutt.
You appear to be a VERY insecure little man. HAHAHA!