painting with the worlds blackest paint - MUSOU black
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- I love trying new paints! The new BLACKEST BLACK paint - Musou black is this crazy paint that makes things look like a black hole. It's probably one of the craziest thing i've ever seen in terms of paint. Well, check out the video to see me compare it to the other classics we use for our hobby - Vallejo, Army Painter, Montana, Citadel etc. It's supposedly darker than Vanta Black and Black 2.0.
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Painting miniatures for your warhammer & d&d games. Age of sigmar and warhammer 40k. Space Marines, Space Wolves, Stormcast Eternals, beastclaw raiders, ogor mawtribes, cities of sigmar, chaos space marines, painting scale models, miniature busts! How to paint NMM. How to paint warhammer, how to paint d&D figures.
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@@Music70783 Love you too!
@Squidmar Miniatures love your stuff, I have picked the hobby again thanks to you and was looking for some new brushes. Do you deliver the brushes to Japan and if so do you know how long would take?
Why paint your fingers and hands when you can use
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Hey Squidmar, love the vid! How/where do I get the paint? I did a bit of research and I can't seem to get it.
I think the most important takeaway from this is that you can now use Vallejo black as an edge highlight ...
The Musou black mini straight up looks like a photoshopped silhouette. Like, "who's that Pokémon? Haha it's actually literally just a black shadow."
It's like you haven't unlocked that character yet
Lego Star Wars be like
My first thought was “well that’s how you make a full set of Primarchs, for the two unknown you just pick a good but vague silhouette and paint with the blackest black.”
Thank you for being like the only person I've seen so far who tested Musou black with varnish.
Yes thank you so much for this! I just got into 3d printing and am looking for the darkest black possible, but I'm making jewelry so it needs some durability. I'm so happy that you also showed it with the matte varnish since it's imperative I seal my paint. Love your videos and your website! Referral links to products are in my Amazon cart!
Would love to see how the Musou black plays when mixed with other colours.
Yeah that's what I was expecting, such an underwhelming video lol
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@@iggiboi2501 imagine being so sensitive that you get mad at people for having an opinion. Wild.
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@One Decent Machinist my god I apologized stop coming for me
This is perfect for scary marines. You basecoat ultra-black then just add a red glow to the eyes.
Raven Guard or straight up have Corax painted with it :D even the Night Lords would $hit their pants
The Blackest Templars
With the slightest hint of pure white edge highlighting. it adds that extra flavor of edge.
do you know how badass a legion of the damned would be with this?
there you go! "shadow legion"
"Black as midnight, black as pitch, blacker than the foulest witch...."
Even blacker than Black Magic Craft? *hmmm*
Blix get back in your cage...
Legend!
EPIC film.
Blix!
614 miniature paints. Yep, I have a problem.
- 450 Reaper
- 118 Vallejo
- 15 Citadel
- 6 Army Painter washes
- 25 Daler-Rowney inks
Coming soon:
- 62 Pro Acryl paints
You have so many paints you stopped using colors and now your just using random words lol..
Interesting that only about 2% of your collection is Citadel. Would love to see your setup, cheers!
We need a follow up where you properly paint a model and experiment with its uses!
Off the top of my head I have at least 323 paints, I may have a problem..
You're the first one, but you pretty much double me! :D
Why am I not surprised? :D
How is that a problem? If it's actually sorted so you can find stuff readily, that's a beautiful state of affairs...
I wish lol. Paint is so expensive XD
I'd be interested to see what a zenithal highlight looks like over the musou, I'm assuming you'd see the white (obviously) then it just fades to nothing lol
"Lukas, come check this out!" Every video I´m watching from now on I´ll imagine Lukas sitting silent in a corner, waiting just in case you need his input for something. It´ll make the videos roughly 2% more enjoyable for me I think! :D
I really think you should haha
Really curious to see how the Musou undercoat affected the final look of a completed mini.
If it's that hard to see details, it wouldn't be workable as an undercoat. It would be good to see it used for black areas on a finished mini, I mean instead of painting black with dark grey and shading with black, you could probably use one of the other blacks and shade with this black.
@@kaneworsnop1007 imagine it being used on something like a mandrake from the Dark Eldar. Deep, pitch black with green highlights on the flames
@@theshadowling1 or Raven guard marine
@@theshadowling1 One of my first thoughts, could look absolutely rad
Looks like it's to fragile to paint on top of, unless you varnish it.
First off: You sir, are a brave man for spraying the blackest black while wearing the whitest sweater. Second: I also like to use the MDF bases from Kromlech. They are good!
I think using this for engine vents, or recesses that are meant to be cavities would probably be ideal both because it will not see much wear from handling, while also providing a sense of depth. Very cool; I will definitely have to pick some up!
Mosou black makes every other black paint look like a dark grey, thats crazy! Mosou also just looks like a unlockable character
please use the musou black in some practical mini painting applications! I'd love to see how it looks as some shadows or, as you said, an army of void miniatures!
I really want to see it used too. My thought was having a secondary character in musou black creeping up on a primary character. When he showed all the minis in the black box, I thought it was missing!
Imagine a c'tan shard of the nightbringer with musou black and just a bit of highlight and glowing eyes
I've had an Eldar/Aeldari army on the backburner for a long time and they are going to be painted in the Ulthwe black and bone scheme. I'm considering making the armour fairly glossy black but trying this Musou paint for the robes. It would probably give them a pretty interesting contrast despite being mostly black.
I would love to see the Musou black used in an actual pant job! It would be interesting to see how it layers and contrasts with other colours!
Not gonna lie. I didn't see the musou black mini when u put it in the black box. I thought u had a weird gap when u framed the shot, and only realized the miniature is there in later shots.
Please tell me you attempted a zenithal highlight! I would love to see what that does on the Musou black and how the contrast would look! 👌
My thoughts exactly. A zenithal with this could be really cool
Zenital lightning with the brightest white on musou black. Or also drybrush with the brightest white.
Yeeees I was thinking this the whole time. I want to see someone use it in a full painted model
A zenithal would likely result in little particles getting on most of the miniature (even if you're trying to avoid painting those areas). Just a matte coat boosts the visibility by quite a bit. I think you need to do more of a reverse zenithal. Prime it with the lighter color, then spray at like 45 from the bottom of the miniature to hit the underside with black shadows.
Dry brushing would probably have a similar issue. You're going to get a bunch of that lighter paint on everything. Even a very thin amount of paint is going to be a big shift in the reflectivity. Edge highlighting, since you'd be controlling exactly where it goes with a brush, would probably be the only way to really keep the deep black while having the edges pop.
How about a vallejo model black as a zenithal and then some edge lighting?
Squidmar is the new Black
Still brighter than my future
It would be interesting to see a comparison between this and black 3.0. Not just color but properties of how it works for minis.
MUSOU Black is brighter than my future.
Musou black + mirror paint for the most extreme contrast.
Can't wait to use this paint in dioramas with reflective eyes in a dark forest.
Okay, so I have about 106 paints that were made specifically for minis (that is, they were produced by citadel, vallejo etc.) ,a pack of 10 cheap acrylics, 12 oil paints, one primer from vallejo, 5 enamel rattle cans, 2 refills for molotow (which I use as a primer), three pots of artistic ink, two dropper bottles of alcohol inks, and two pigments which I use for washes.
So combined, it's about 151 painting utilities for miniatures.
Props to Squidmar to edit out all the models with the musou black and photoshop a void in there
Now let's see it used in a creative way.
You know, this could also be quite fun for a space marine force or other one with a high amount of flat panels.
Or Batman...just for the look there.
With either Black 2.0 or 3.0 a friend of mine had done some artwork with that was rather cool. He'd originally been doing some line art where it was a normal and a high gloss version of the same paint, and he moved to a few with the Black 2.0 or 3.0...not sure which he used for them, but it was over a year ago when I saw them, rather simple ways to make a very cool looking thing.
With the older stuff, I'd seen him do it. Take a good flat black (he also did some with white paints), and prime the surface. He used the expensive plywood for the back for it and attached the things to hang it before painting. Then he took the image he wanted on it and used the computer to print out a stencil of it after scanning it in and carefully putting it over the wood and spraying on the other paint with an airbrush (Originally, he'd used gloss, but with some switched to the crazy blacks for some). Then he'd use a stamp of his signature in an opposing color (White for black ones/black for white ones) in the corner before sealing it.
They looked awesome...unfortunately, with the lockdowns and everything, I haven't seen him since everything started...he was one of the players in the AL group I'd been in.
To quote Nathan Explosion: "we will make it blacker then the blackest black times infinity."
A Raven Guard Space Marine In this would be amazing.
131and counting :D
I'd totally use this Musou black to half cloak, with a bright transition, some space ships. Might work, even better if you can use some white dots on top of it for stars.
Dipyourcar used musou black with star like stuff :D Maybe wanna check that out
Dude, great video. Cool models too!
I'd love to see you follow through on some of these ideas. Using the musou black as super dark shadows on a bust or something, a creature transforming from inky shadow into full color... Really cool!
A small terrain with this paint could be awesome, have little raised parts and put "floating" platforms throughout. Could even have little holes and led lights throughout for a spacy effect while keeping the endless pitch black look.
The Musou Black would look cool on a Hexwraith or other spectral units. Dry brush a fluorescent colour on it as highlight could make a cool looking spectral effect against a black background.
Counted this week, so far about 200 dropper bottles and 30 ish citadel pots. And some pigments and mud/watter effects.
Than about 50-80 cheap acrylic paint tubes and all kinds of primers.
Was just looking into how to properly store it.
Printing the needed racks will take me about 3 weeks fulltime printing.
I’m really looking forward to some unique miniature paint job with that paint, I would love to see a hyper contrasted figure almost fell shade style with it.
I used to have necrons myself but your work is just art
I have a serious problem, I have 282 bottles on my desk from Vallejo, Army Painter, and Citadel. My daughter teases me and says my hobby is "collecting paint bottles" LOL. I love Army Painter's black. Nice video! Nice video.
That color is insane! literally turns the mini into a shadow.
Gotta love the way you built up the story telling on it all. Very interesting video!
I own close to 800 paints. I have bought many total collections including Army painter, 2 different vallejo, and war colours. I own probably 2/3 of Citadels, some P3 and a few different color shift paints
I have used Blk 2.0 for minis and it ironically makes a great primer provided you let it dry completely over bare plastic, but it tends to be too soft and rub off if left exposed. the biggest problem with it is it "can" be thinned with water for use in an airbrush but it is not fun to clean out of an airbrush. If Musou Black works straight out of the pot it is looking like a winner to me, especially given how dark it stayed with that varnish on it.
165 paints here. About 100 GW ones then the rest are a mix of Vallejo, Green Stuff world, ProAcryl, Nocturna and a couple of Army Painter.
It is me and my wife so that is between us 😁
That is really black like stealth aircraft are just a bit more black than that. It would be so good on stealth models, just remember to accent some parts for contrast. Also good to know Vallejo Black is the second most black!
Probably one of the best hobby vids I've watched in ages, cheers.
Thanks for the video.
That mussou black would be awesome on a battlefleet Gothic ship.
Imagine it on a black surface...
'so where did my miniature go?'
Lol
Blacks seem to be the first to be sold out constantly. One shop I order from in canada is constantly out of black vallejo primer, model, game, air, mecha, everything. Also Abaddon black is great for putting metallics over to cover it :)
I would love to see you paint a Void Beast of some kind in the way you mentioned. Stepping through the void and becoming visible. Or maybe something like a Nebula Dragon. A mousou black dragon, with stars and galaxies. So many options!
I think we've found the colour that Hotblack Desiato's ship was painted o_O
Good call on that, but the buttons on the control panels inside could be seen so they must have had varnish applied after painting :)
Being dead is tax deductible, after all
Let's bring this comment up to 42 likes and stop there. Just because.
Exactly what I thought...
It's, like, so black.
Mosou black is substantially darker than 3.0. By a factor of 2 or 3 times blacker. Ive sprayed 5 coats of each with my airbrush and the Mosou is way, way, way blacker. Ive painted with 3.0 for the last year and thought it was great. Saw these videos a couple weeks ago and ordered the mosou. Immediately saw the difference.
Finally a paint fit for the Raven guard
Nice vid Emil 😊
I’m not sure about Musou Black’s application on miniatures since you want to see contrast in colours.
By the way I’m on 1400-1500 hobby paints and it is still growing 😂
I think you're in a clear lead by like 4-500 paints in this comment section haha :D
@@SquidmarMiniaturesit’s probably a little too much for a normal minis painter to have that kind of collection of paints, but I need alot for my hobby paint mixing software, and a little bit of painting 🙂
THE AIRBRUSH AT 4:20 !! You cheeky devil
That Musou Black is awesome 👌
Great video brother, very interesting. Since the question was asked, I have 881 paints in ready access at my painting desk. ;)
I thought it would be past thousands haha. I think you're in second place so far 😁
@@SquidmarMiniatures Darn it, I knew I should have also counted my box of overflow paints I don't keep at my desk, that would easily be another 100 paints. I could've been a contender. ;)
Haha its very likely you'll be nr1🤯😁
Damn, OK now I have to buy more paints... Scale75 collectors box looks fine right now.
Awesome video. That mini was so black. I really want to create creepy sinister shadows trying to get someone with that black it’s so great.
D&D player here. Seems like a quick way to create minis that are meant to be invisible - an alternative to buying clear plastic versions of a character. Since nothing in real life is actually that black, not even shadows or the night sky, you can't use it to paint objects, but you can use it for voids. Might be handy for painting spiderwebs, for instance. Magical effects. The inside of an open chest leading to a pocket plane. Voids in horrors from the forbidden dimensions. The inside of the mouths of a gibbering mouther. Since it's fragile, a mask-and-spray technique might work nicely.
11:13 You can see the black box is literally projecting a shadow on to his face.
That's insane.
That first comparison around the 5 minute mark on the turn table was crazy. The Musou black figure had like a black nimbus around it.
New to model painting but not art or painting, or airbrush. Just started printing my 3d art and this paint would be great for blacklight and glow pieces.
I'm not a figure painter but a scale modeller. I like to test different paints to see how they behave and as it is now I've got 1000+ bottles/tins from a lot of different manufacturers. I've sold of 300+ ones so far from ranges that I didn't like. I just may have a slight problem...
The 2 things I would like to see this paint used for are some LOTR Nazgul models, and the other one some 40k black armoured Space Marines. Even used as airbrushed shadows, it could really make things pop a bit more.
I hardly ever use black or white paint on my minis. Both colours are almost never seen in nature. The lightest colour I use is Vallejo Ivory, the darkest is German Panzer Grey, though I do mix in a blob of craft acrylic black from a tube when I want to put shadows on the panzer grey.
Dude is out here painting in a long sleeve white shirt. What an absolute mad-lad.
It was crazy seeing the antishine matte varnish actually make the black 3.0 paint I had glossier
A lictor coming out of the shadows. Infiltrators or snipers revealing themselves. A bunch of cool effects can be had SQUID! DO THE DO MAN! Show us what is possible! :)
This is an amazing color. I can imagine doing some really cool effects with mouso.
The musou black makes the miniature look like you have not unlocked the character yet.
That is amazing!
Wow that would be great for painting and adding holes. Thats really good
It could actually be really useful giving the illusion of a deep pit or something
9 and a mixer I am brand new to painting figures and love it
That was cool, but also helpful to see the ranking of the other blacks.
I know I would love to see a video of your go to base palette of paints. (I may have missed it if you've already done one but didn't see it in a search.) Miniatures and modelling have so many base colour variations and sure you can't mix for fluorescents and metallics, but if you had to pick 12 or maybe even 24 colours from various brands in your paint arsenal what would they be? Sort of in the way you might have a go to set for watercolours. It would be super helpful to fill any gaps in my ever growing paint collection.
id really love to see this with some lighting effects painted on it.
I imagined a t-shirt this black when I was nine. I thought it would make me look completely 2D and I'm glad I got that confirmed some 23 years later. I also remember spray painting a chaos black base for the first time and I was blown away by how much that improved the look of a mini. Might still be the best paint job I ever managed, just wanted some player tokens for TTRPG campaign and realized I like writing and planing a lot better i guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That blackest black could be a realy cool effect for a mini of a shadow monster. Making it always look like a silhouette even tho it phyicically has the 3D details
Finally, a color I can shade black with.
Love those Titanforge miniatures, they have my pledge 👍
I'm wondering how it would look like with some neon-color thin details on Musou black
I think the blade of the sword really cool.
Musou black turns every mini into an unlockable character
Or one with missing textures
Around 200-230 paints, depending on if you also count varnishes, inks, pigments, texture pastes, mediums etc. Realistically I probably have enough acrylics, but I definitely need to start dabbling more with inks and enamels.
These 99%+ light absorbent black's would be really good for representing things like portals or deep pits on otherwise shallow terrain. The price of Musou is a bit steep but it looks like you can pick up small samples of Black 3.0 on eBay at a reasonable price... Gah, it never ends!
A mini painted with this black and the mirror paint from the other video would be interesting.
Great video, i was planning to make a "shadow" necron army painted in Mosoublack and then doing some Armour highlight on shoulders, arms and head..so it looks like a necron at night lighted up by lightning, leaving everything on the bottom and shadows parts in Mosoublack...and then making the highlights of the Miniatures their Eyes and weapons glowing green and reflecting on some parts.....i would love to see some guys in this community doing that with other fractions.! :)
reflection and absorption is soo important for colours but very easily overlooked, nice one, quality research, you missed scalecolour though, which is very matt, excellent
Musou black is art by itself
After 25 years in the hobby easily over 400 (pots of) paint. No regrets.
That black is insane.
Excellent choice for black history month👌
Now I know what to use for my base rims
I wanna see the musou mini get some regular colors added to it. Curious what it would do with the visibility of everything having "empty" segments
That Musou black would be perfect for shadows or shadow versions of monsters in DnD. One or two coats and flat varnish and you're done? Assembly line for shadow demons...
Musou black like a unlock hero
Literally just counted mine 2 days ago to buy a new organizer. I have 61 paints, and 13 other bottles with cleaner, thinner, mediums, etc.
I love Abbadon black for armor, specifically Space Marine Chaplains.
This could make some really cool drukhari mandrakes. Black silhouettes with some glowing eyes and other details maybe.
I bought about 170 warcolours paints to go with my 100ish Vallejo, 50ish citadel, and a few assorted P3. Oh and about 20 turbo dork.