Black Armour - Table Top Standard - & why is painting black tricky?
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- An efficient approach to painting black. I've painted armour, but the same technique would work nicely for other applications. During the video I also touch the subject on painting black in general. Black is tricky. When painting black there are a few things that I try to have in mind, and I wanted to share these thoughts with you.
The "black" recipe:
1 - Zenithal Prime
2 - Black Templar contrast paint & Contrast Medium
3 - GSW Black Soot liquid pigment
4 - GSW White Dust liquid pigment
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Whoa, this was one of the craziest, most unique approaches to black I have ever seen. I loved it!
Hi! 👋 maybe it is? Didn’t give it much thought, just painted along :)
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Thank you so much, you really help me out !
So let me see... Black is either "this just a scratch" or "I'm your father"? Sounds pretty accurate to me!
Kind of yeah. Pretty much a walk in the park... or an epic battle.
As someone with 1800s worth of painted Raven Guard, can confirm lol
Honestly the two types, having written multiple black armor tabletop characters 😂
Darth vader is for black templars the holy grails’ the black knight is raven guard believe it or not lol
I've learned these techniques through the struggle of painting a Deathwatch army. Wish I would have known these things earlier though
Your videos have single handedly inspired me to paint again with similar passion. Your story telling is eloquent and straightforward while being visually digestible. Watching you learn new techniques shows viewers relatability and being content with their own painting style. Being able to tell my own story through painting has been the perspective I needed. Thank you so much for reigniting the fire I had to enjoy painting in the present and into the future.
Well thank you very much Drew, I really appreciate you comment. I'm also glad that my personal hobby journey can inspire.
This is one of the finest videos I've seen on painting black. Practical and you can take it to high levels of quality! Thanks.
Thanks Joseph, I appreciate it
I really like how this black armor looks and its much quicker and easier than other methods I've used!
I hope it works out for you Bill :)
Oh man! This is great. I started painting minis for the first time a couple weeks ago and have been disappointed with how all the black parts have turned out. Thanks so much!
thanks Harry, glad to hear you are getting into the hobby. Black is tricky! Starting out I'd definitely try the contrast paints or washes... over brighter surfaces.
Ive been painting since 1983 and these techniques were new to me. This guy knows what hes doing.
This has been EXTREMELY helpful, I've been struggling with minis that have black armor and other things to try and bring depth to them but this has given me much guidance and a good direction to work in!
Great to hear it Erik! Thanks
I’m gearing up to start painting minis again, Battletech this time, and I decided to do black as the main color for my vehicles.
Contrast paints weren’t around the last time I painted, so this was very helpful. I was struggling to think about what order to work in as I’d never painted minis primarily black before. I appreciate how you were able to blend theory and practical application as you talked. Concise and informative. Great video!
Thanks M. Give it a try. Unfortunately, contrast paints are usually not great on larger flat areas. I don't know how big your bots are?
@@52Miniatures Oh, that’s a good point. They’re in the 1.5 to 2 inch range, some have quite a bit of complicated geometry, but others are definitely pretty flat. It’ll at least be a point to start experimenting from. :)
I got a recommendation for your channel from Ms. Dana Howl. The subject of Black intrigued me and so here I am. I clicked "subscribe"...like your style...cant wait to see what else is here. Cheers!
Welcome to the channel North. I'm very glad for Dana's mention, a great surprise to start of the new year. Currently I'm working on a bunch of videos simultaneously. Always a bad idea :) So there will be a bit of a wait for new material - but then a lot of it. Happy New Year!
I appreciate this video so much. You explained in a much better way than I why black is a pain. Most edge highlighting I've seen from expert painters is very heavy. Have to outline literally every crevice and detail. And then, for black, no matter if it's a cloth or a matte metal or a shiney surface, they always edge with shades of blue. This has always, because of the heavy highlighting, done the thing you mentioned with the too much grey makes the black grey, turned the black into blue. And I think your video explains really well why that happens.
Thanks 🙏 I’m getting more and more aware of the fact that this channel is about me / my thoughts and process and that there is not much “right or a wrong” to be taught. Talking about how I reflect on painting stuff seems to mirror a lot of other peoples. Just by talking about this and putting it in a video can maybe help people solve their own problems rather than try and copy my technique (I hope so anyway). There is of course tips and tricks - “right and wrong” - but I think my learned peers can teach that better. I’m mainly here to inspire. Rambling on here, but I’m glad my thoughts on black came through in this video :)
This is great! I love how specific the instruction is. I kinda need that sometimes. I like to learn to do it "right", then mess with it once you have the proper technique. I'm not an artist...I'm just a dude who wants cool looking minis.
I'm glad this helps Travis, thanks for letting me know.
Your videos are unlike any of the other mini painting videos on RUclips. For that reason (and many others) you will always have a spot in my playlists.
Well thank you Corey, I appreciate it and I'm glad to hear it.
Thank you so much for this. I always struggle with black - 90% mentally before I even put paint to brush. This has given me new perspective. BTW, you are an amazing artist and a true inspiration!
Thank you Michael, I'm glad this helped.
Well this video has convinced me to paint every piece of armor black for the rest of my life. Beautiful work.
Best black painting tutorial Ive watched yet!
Great to hear !
This video explains how to paint black better than anything else I have seen. As someone with a 40k army that wears black armor, this was extremely helpful.
Totally agree for the most part, but I seem to have get lost halfway through, maybe I was a bit tried.
I looking for different spin on painting my black legion army and today I've found 2 ways so far.
Thanks
I just wanna let you know that I found your "recipe" exceptional useful. After hours struggling of painting my very first Black Templar, at last I'm pleased with results. Thank you for sharing and keep going with beatiful and valuable videos!
I’m glad to hear it F, happy new year!
Possibly the best miniature painting video Ive ever seen. Great work.
Wow, thanks Nick 🙏
I subscribed to you on a whim and now you've taught me how to paint black. I'm am definitely going to incorporate this approach in my painting skills...however long it may take to become proficient
Welcome to the channel M, I hope you enjoy the stay. And good luck with the black.
I just watched this while painting. Not anything black though. But I will have to watch it again later and pay proper attention. This sounded like a really good tip, but as I have admitted, I didn't see all of it. I am saving this one for later. I usually just have videos like this one running while painting. That I want to watch this one again in detail, means something.
Nice to hear T!
I feel compelled to compliment you on a truly excellent video. Many thanks for taking the time to explain and demonstrate these techniques in such a digestible manner.
Thank you Toby, I appreciate it.
I'm painting a black Stormcast army now and can't wait to try this technique. I absolutely love your result here. Excellent content as always!
Thanks! Good luck 👍
YES!!! Thank you so much. This is the Anvils of the Heldenhammer tabletop method I've been looking for.
This added to antique gold and bleached, dirty (grim dark) cloth will be perfect for what I needed.
Great! 👍
Just purchased the Soot & Dust, thank you for the recommendations 👍🏻🇮🇪
Lovely! I hope you enjoy trying them out.
@@52Miniatures Good morning from Éire 🇮🇪
The S&D as I like to call them will arrive today, I’m informed. I’ve got my 30 year old 17 time repainted and cleaned Chaplin awaiting the bountiful produce on its wasaaay, can’t wait.
I’ll be dry brushing the absolute hound out of it.
Get IN 👍🏻
I was looking for just such a video. Thank you. i was going to approach black templar armour lke this. It helped to confirm my thoughts before I got started. Love your approach to your content.
Thanks Byron, glad it helped.
One of the best tutorials I've seen.
I like doing true metallic black by basing with a dark iron color, then painting over that with the black contrast; then drybush a metallic highlight on it to bring back some of that shine. The contrast paint gives it the black color, but because it's not a perfect coverage, it still keeps some of the metal visible through it; kinda results in a slightly oily, faded metal look, which is perfect for the metal bits of big mechas and such.
Nice tip M, thank you!
The holy grail and vader great choices love the videos they are very therapeutic to have on while painting 👍
Across all your videos I really like how you experiment with pigments, inks, paints and different mediums. Very cool! Gives others great ideas!
Great to hear Mr G, I do like to experiment.. and figure it might help others to get to see my slightly crooked hobby journey :)
I have just become a new subscriber having only found your channel 3 days ago! I find your approach to the hobby and the way you present your topics to be very refreshing and entertaining. I hate shading and highlighting black but after watching your approach feel I should take another go at it. One thing I was doing was highlighting black with flesh colours especially on fabric...the warm tone giving it a more cloth like appearance. Thank you for sharing this with us and I look forward to the next vid!
Thank you Andy and welcome to the Channel. Warmer flesh tones are great for a lot of highlights in my opinion. So I'm with you there :)
A thinking man's painter, I really enjoyed the ideas and carefully considered approach
I liked the results a lot, especially the almost cast iron texture from the black pigment and will grab the white at the same time based on your recommendation. I do love drybrushed transitions when they're done well and not chalky, to pull that off with white on the brush is a real challenge and you succeeded admirably.
I don't think I'd bother with the contrast black, I don't think much of that survived the later treatments and would likely go with a flat chromatic black at that stage. Like the zenithal lightmap, I think you used it well to show yourself the details and the volumes you were going to develop with the dry brush technique, but likewise not much survived to the end result.
A really enjoyable vid and look forward to more, immediate no brainer to subscribe
Thanks A! Glad to hear about the pigments. They are well worth the investment in my book. You are right, a lot of the zenithal got covered, but enough survived to at least use as a guide for the other layers. Welcome to the channel :)
That is incredible, just stumbled across this while looking for a blue cloak recipe! Now I have to work out which models are getting amazing black armour!
Thank you for an excellent "Black" armour tutorial. Outstanding and very informative. Can't wait to try out the technique.
Good luck!
My new favourite miniature painter/youtuber
Well thank you Dan, glad to hear it.
Well done! There are too many out there whom believe black is devoid of gradient. Thank you for showing otherwise. Cheers.
Thanks James, I appreciate it.
I'm about to watch this for the 3rd time in a row to try to soak this in.... 🤯
You have a very smooth and calming speech pattern. Really like your technique.
Thank you! I Appreciate hearing it :)
This is still my go to when I'm trying to achieve black ⚫ still really useful!
Great to hear Ben, thank you.
@@52Miniatures how did you achieve the blue and the lighting effects? 😍😍
@@bennnnnyy26 Check out my video called "The Blue Cloak"
Great technique and I love the weathering and battle damage you added to the Stormcast. Very cool!
Thanks Keith! 🙏
Amazing Video - love the tone and the "easy to understand" approach you have! thank yoU!
You're very welcome G
This is great thank you. Will use these techniques on my Adeptus Arbites.
Great 👍
Just discovered your channel. Excellent videography, I love the editing, b-roll and well-paced voice-overs! 👌
Thanks Bart! I'm all the time searching for ways to make videos that I enjoy making... these last couple of videos have been a lot of fun :)
I won't lie, your narration and videography is wonderful and interesting. You made something which could have been boring if done not well into something quite entertaining! The small clips, like the paints in the toolbox really made this awesome. A VERY well done :D
Thank you Dave! I’m glad you enjoyed the video. It’s great to hear.
I am definitely using this techniques for a Clone Commando Squad called Omega Squad. They had a matte black armor and your technique will allow my to differentiate between the black of their armor, weapons and under armor.
Great Joshua!
Very useful I’m doing a Star Wars character with yellow and black as the basic colours and wanted to start with a pale primer (to help with the yellow… instead of black primer) so your guidance here is very useful!
This is very true K! I never thought of that. Good point. Might even try it myself. Thanks!
At 9:47 you can see where it recreates a cloth effect of the heavy belt charm pressing into the robe. Thats incredible.
Thanks J!
This black armour looks so good!
The minis as a whole look deliciously dark and scary, I love it! I might "borrow" some of those techniques at some point ;)
Please do Vinc, I go back to using this "technique" every now and again. Works well in combination with metallics too.
Huh, what a coincidence. I've been thinking about a color scheme for my new stormcast these last few days... This is very inspiring!
Glad to hear it C, go for it :)
Just a thought. But you could enhance the bright outline of the 'shiny' black armor by painting a tiny amount of gloss varnish in those locations. Just to add a bit of additional reflected light. If you don't like the look, you can undo it with a bit of matte varnish.
This video, although released some time ago, is very timely for me as I'm painting a mini from the Fallout board game from Fantasy Flight Games. The mini is the Brotherhood of Steel figure and my cousin asked it to be in the Brotherhood Outcast coloring. Basically, the power armor is painted black with red trim in various spots. Due to the game being set in a waste land and the armor being old, there is a lot of wear to the paint job. I've got my work cut out for me but I feel I have a goo strategy of painting/highlighting the black, then red, then adding in the metal wear/chipping to show the base armor underneath. Long story, short, thanks for this video! 😄
Glad to hear it and sounds like you are in for some fun. Good luck!
Very well done and thorough explanation on black armour. I also appreciate your calm approach to painting. Easy to watch and listen while I'm painting myself. I'm going to try the liquid pigment! That'll be new for me :)
i just found your channel. excellent learning videos and a good sense of humor. thats all I need. good work. you definitely have a new subscriber.
All the Best from Switzerland.
Welcome to the channel Saka :)
Amazing work and technique, will definitely check this video out again when painting black armors!
Glad to hear it. Good luck A!
Really nice video and explanation! Amazing work!
Thank you H! I appreciate it.
First time running into your videos and I must say... Bravo! Aside from the subject matter, that in its self was captivating, the film style was just charming. And that narrating voice of yours was simply, and please take this as my highest praise, nature film like! I loved it! Made me subscribe right away. Thank you!
Well thank you D, I appreciate it. If only the mini's would come alive, and I could study their habits in their natural habitat! :) Welcome to the channel.
This was my first video I've watched on your channel. Really loved it. Thanks for the helpful tips
Great to hear it :) Welcome to the channel!
Great stuff good sir! You have a new fan. Your painting process resonates with my own. Videos are so well made. I love how each video is a story. I talk in stories myself.
Thank you M, I'm glad to hear it.
just came across this video!! awesome technique!!
Thanks Tyler! Hope it's useful to you!
FINALLY! A painter with manicured nails!
Dude I can't tell you how much, I'm put off by janky nails taking away from the subject material.
Also your black recipe is awesome, I'm going to have to borrow it :D
Hah.. well.. that sort of comes and goes. I try to remember having them in decent order but...
Again , i enjoyed my trip to painting "Church", your philosophy, again much like the preachers sermon. I hope to achieve now that i am blessed knowleged.
Hah! Pax Vobiscum
You got a air brush booth, nice! I am finishing up some black space marines using that second technique. Highlight up and than glaze back down. Great video, thanks!
Yeah! It makes more noise than the airbrush compressor. Combine the two and it’s like someone’s parking a helicopter right outside. But hey, better than freezing my fingers off outside. Good to hear from you Josh. Good luck with that black!
Man i really LOVED the tutorial, my most sincere thank you! Thats gona help me A LOT!
Thank you R, I'm glad to hear it!
Very interesting. Makes me think differently about painting. Thanks!
Glad to hear it C!
Beautiful painting and a clear recipe. Your videos always look so professional too!
Thank you M 🙏 Appreciate hearing this.
Really cool new idea, I'm eager to try it out myself.
Good luck H!
The fluid you put in dishwashers also acts as a flow improver and has the advantage of not bubbling as much as dish soap. It might even work in an airbrush, though I haven’t tried it yet.
The fluid that makes the glass look extra shiny? Not diswasher detergent right? That would kill the brush I recon.
Great video! I will take these tips and tricks into my next adventure with black!
Thank you C! Please do. The dry brushing with liquid pigments is a real keeper in my books.
This is actually really helpful!!!
Great to hear Joshua
Dish washing detergent, I never used it to dilute paint.
It is also usefull for terrain making. For example, it works perfect to glue ballast to tracks, in model raileroad landscape.
Mix PVA glue with water, and add a couple off detergent drops to the mix.
Now put the ballast or very little stone bits in the place of the terrain you are making.
To finish, bath with dilutes PVA just from top of it, and let it dry. It will glue perfectly.
Dish washing detergent will allow the glue go throw all the ballast and soak it completely. Otherwise, if you just dilute PVA glue with only water, it will form drops in the top off the ballast, sand or little rocks to be glued with a horrible result.
Yeah! Exactly. It reduces the surface tension. I’ve been told floor polish works very well for this as well... just don’t know what type. Floor polish is not very common in Sweden.
Man those minis look great. I'll definitely try your version of painting black next time I decide to make some black armor. I've been mulling around whether to buy some chaos knights. If I do, I'll be using this method to paint their black armor.
Sounds like a plan Timothy
This is absolutely fantastic. I think I will be buying some Stormcast to give it a go!
Nice James! Depending on budget... I would quite recommend getting the “propper” boxes of troops and not the “push to fit” ones, usually found in starter boxes. The regular ones just have so much more potential for individuality... and you won’t have to worry about gaps on every other shoulder pad...
I'm now going to order some of the white dust liquid pigments and try drybrushing with it. I'm planning on painting some Orlock miniatures for Necromunda and they're predominantly black. Thanks for the advice.
Nice Will, I’d love to hear how that goes. And don’t forget to wipe the brush real thoroughly, more than you would a regular paint.
Super high quality video! Really nice to watch and listen to while I'm painting. Glad I found your channel and am looking forward to checking out your other videos.
Thank you 🙏 And welcome to the channel D. More is on the way as well :)
That looks really, really nice! Gonna have to try it out myself.
Please do John! It works out nicely :)
This was really interesting to watch. I wish I could see the models on the tabletop to get the full effect but I definitely want to to give this a try with some sisters of battle. I think it would be an amazing effect to mix it with the deep red cloaks they wear.
Thanks Jules. On the tabletop, my mini's from this video appear more "black" but with visible details. That being the point 😂 I get quite a few comments on the fact that these look "grey". But we all know what happens when stuff ends up on the table, everything looks darker... and I tried to take that into consideration when making the video.
Impressive. Most Impressive.
Thank you U!
I am really amazed by the experiments you must undertake to come up with a great recipe like here. I have to express my gratitude that you then share this experience with us and greatly composed, cut and narrated video. Keep going!
Thanks a lot C 😊
Informative, unique approach. I really enjoyed the voice over. Guess I better watch some more.
Thanks Eric and nice to hear. Welcome to the channel :)
Amazing Video - really liked the result. Also the dust-white advise is something that i will use in near future. Thanks
Thanks! Yeah, love that white dust for dry brushing. Especially on a big makeup brush! Make sure to wipe of more than with normal paints though. Because it’s so fluid, it needs it.
Your work is inspiring, both your style of painting and your way to make videos. This is incredibly well done.
Thank you very much! Appreciate it :)
Black is black...and what does that mean for our minis? That black is tricky....(greatest statement ever)
Hah, thanks Craig.
these guys look rlly good !!! defo gonna use this if i ever have to paint some black armour x
Thanks S! Go for it :)
This looks like a great technique. Going to try it on some Deathwatch
Good luck 👍
Interesting technique! I usually use a mixture of Citadel Leadbelcher with a bit of black, or Army Painter Gun Metal with a bit of black. Both about a 3 to 1 black ratio.
Just came across you channel and the content is great! I’ve always struggled with painting black and I think will give me a lot of fun new ways to approach it. Seems like green stuff world has a lot of great product, wish it was easier to get in the US
Thanks R and welcome to the channel. Yes I've heard GSW can be tricky to get hold of in the US. Some of the stuff they put out, is just to make it easier for hobbyists, like materials that can be found in a lot of places... but.. saves the roundtrip. A lot of their products are unique too.
Very interesting, I can't wait to try this!
Awesome :) good luck!
Excellent job! Thank you!
Amazing work, as always.
Thanks L! I appreciate it!
They look incredible!!
Thanks David! Appreciate it :)
@@52Miniatures I’ll check out your patreon, because I’m struggling, I mean really struggling to achieve a good look for my Stardrake. I may be setting myself up for a fail trying to achieve what the paint looks like on the box. 🙁
I loooooove this approach. Gonna give it a go on space marines.
Glad to hear it G, good luck!
You almost speak like G.Man. One of the reasons I love this video so much omg!
Hah! Yeah, I've been told in a few other comments. A pretty good complement I think :)
Thank you for sharing!!
My pleasure Para
First video of yours I've stumbled upon. Absolutely stunning work!
Thanks T, appreciate it!
That almost sounded rude.. I meant to say that I appreciate your comment...
Nice comprehensive vid mate, thank you!
Glad to hear it Tom, thanks.
Fantastic video man! Really interesting technique, right now I’m painting Tau black for the first time so I’ll see how it goes! Also, I’m pretty sure you could make a killing as an ASMR voice over actor! Hahaha, all the best dude, subscribed!
Well thank you R! Welcome to the channel and good luck with the Tau.
13:35 I think this shot captures what they mean when they say "kino"
In a good way I hope? :)
@@52Miniatures I was not aware of other ways, tbh!
That was an awesome result. Obviously you've done some great experimenting behind the scenes here to come up with this recipe. I'll keep this in mind if I get around to some black armour myself! Looking forward to seeing what other unique takes you come up with in the future!
Thanks! I did one fail, but most of it was planed in my head more than on minis :) It would most probably look real well with metallic armour as well. Just drybrush with a metallic instead :) Hope you are doing well and staying safe.
This is a great painting technique. Thank you.
I'm glad you liked it Paul, thanks for watching
Very interesting and useful info. Thanks!