How Riot Games Doesn't Ban Cheaters (Sometimes.)
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- Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2022
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League of Legends is a competitive game that for the most part has actually been quite good at dealing with cheaters and hackers.
But sometimes, some slip in. In this case they come in the form of bug exploits. Although bugs occur all the time, sometimes certain bugs can give players an advantage. And certain players will try to use that advantage to get as many wins as possible.
Today we take a look at times when players got away with cheating for longer than you'd expect.
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Tyler1 meets scripter: • Tyler1 vs Scripting Sion
Account transfer exploit: / what_do_you_think_abou...
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Leagues biggest bug that they have yet to remove is Yuumi. Im shocked its gone on this long without removing said bug.
That ain't a bug. That's a whole parasite
@@flandretek Tweety Bird tried to warn us but we didn't listen
@@beaswork8520 LOL no literally 😂😂
U mean Samira
@@kazukipiano Samira is my perma ban always 😂
The main reason why Riot doesn't ban cheaters instantly is to completely learn about the cheat itself. They research them and find a way to fix them, and at the same time prevent similar cheats in the future. If you ever wonder why they usually need so much time to fix cheats, this is the main reason. Also it sometimes happens that they know the person who created a specific cheat(some Riot employes are ex-cheaters), so they contact them and talk about the usage of cheats. Several people actually spoke about this.
Why not just buy the cheat to study it first hand all while banning everyone that uses it instead?
@@euqinemor they do that too
@@creeperbadman In negative Rammus Q+Ghost speed
@@euqinemor the cheaters make sure that the buyers arent riot employies
they are actually the main ones selling the cheats. they dont fix them cause they make alot of money off them its sad you have noticed this. its like how most scalping companies are owned mostly by the companies that sell the products they get free tax write off and a free mark up of triple to quad the price
Riot is a indie company, not a billion dollar company
It's both 😩👌
REAL
They are a billion dollar company. Except that they use 999,999,900 dollars on amouranth onlyfans
I'm pretty sure it's a billion dollar company
Thats right, with the quality of the changes we get I would expect no more than an Indie company
In 2012, up until 2017, there was a FOV hack on league that I, as many others, have used for 5 whole years, then we got a 14 days ban and a "don't do it again or else"
The sion thing has not been fixed, in fact it has become worse, even if you are not scripting there are some specific spots where you can hit to do a full 45 degree turn unintentionally
The random ping-pong moments with Sion ult has been a thing since the rework. And sometimes you can even do a full 180 by coming into contact with Thresh lantern and stuff like that lmao
as a sion main they have become more common i think they changed the side hitbox of his r.
nah, they fixed it and it doesn´t even work anymore. atleast not with script
The transfer abuse is mind-boggling not because transferring resets mmr, but because there is a system in place in the first place that gets you stuck with shit tier LP gains making it impossible to climb. Why not just make a standardized system, where winning gives one point, losing loses one and 5 points or something like that is needed to rank up a divi
i dont like your idea for a system, but the one atm is terrible. hardstuck gold with 12lp per win, with a new account plat in a few days..
yeah It's really dumb how gaining the same amount as you lose is considered hardstuck mmr, mmr has so much more influence on climbing than how you actually perform/winrate. I had a 50% wr with camille but i gained 600 lp from that but if someone with low mmr wins 50% of the time they would derank.
@@AliHassan-mk6jp I started playing on a account that ended in plat 1 or diamond 4. I instantly got into smurf que. I think I ended with a 35% winrate but I gained lp :>
Not agreeing with the current system, but the one you are proposing is probably even more terrible. The only way your system would work is if somehow Riot would pair exactly 10 player with the exact (or very nearly exact) skill level, which is insanely hard to do and would probably lead to insanely high queue times.
The current snowballing type of LP gain/loss is fine as it is in terms of the idea. If you are a 50% player, you win and lose the same LP. If you are, let's say, Gold 3 and have 30 wins and 40 losses, then obviously the system is automatically designed to make you win less and lose more, in order to balance you out to your deserved rank where you would eventually be a 50% player. Same story if you are winning. An 80% winrate player at Gold 3 will be getting high LP for winning in order to reach their deserved rank faster, at which point they'd be finally getting to their 50% winrate and equal LP gain/loss.
wild rift rank system
Cheating is getting so crazy that I literally saw an ad on a video that's selling a script program.
And it showed on a league youtube channel no less. The fact that they even advertise it says a ton.
first off, ANOTHER BANGER VID
unfortunately riot doesnt refund lp when after a cheaters banned, a lot of times when ive provided proof to riot support, they still dont take any action against blatant cheaters. even have one of those proof segments at the end of one of my videos- i dont remember which though.
The Sion bug reminds me of the Demoman's shield charge bug from Team Fortress 2, it is almost the same mechanic, charges into a specific direction until they collide with a target or when the user swing their melee weapon. You can turn but you hardly control the turn, you have items that can help you with turning but there's a bug where you can override the turn by adding commands as you turn left or right granting you full control of your charge, they fixed the bug but players found out another way which is using the controller movement.
yuumi is actually banned in all Iron games because they are mostly bots, this was announced by riot idk if their still doing it but idk
Omg they need to do it for bronze too bc I swear it’s the reason I stay stuck in bronze 😭😭😭 can’t ever progress
@@cristinaguzman1604 while bots are a problem, i don't think there as prevalent in bronze as iron but they still are in bronze. But Bronze is about carrying yourself out. Adc, jg, and mid are all good roles for this, top lane is the hardest with it being the least interacted with, but if you get fed you can carry your games
@@KingofthePond2004 yeah I main ADC which sometimes can be really hard when it’s always supp bots, hard to carry when your supp is basically sabotaging you 😭😭 or maybe I just suck xD
@@cristinaguzman1604 just play kaisa, she's not very reliant on her support, you can carry yourself to a win most games, and she can split push reliably, trying to play jinx type champs in lower elos, is just asking to get griefed by your perma brain-on-airplane-mode team
@@hehexd5317 LMAO and that’s exactly who I main 😂😂 I just really like playing those type champions but yeah definitely need to try others
02:00 there was MULTIPLE methods, not just 1, all of them got patched, I only knew 1 however
Also it applied to clash not just ranked
Nicolai i love your videos! Keep up the great job!
Thank you, Miku!
i faced a scripter in master elo eune
challenger lobby
some players are really gaining a lot of lp reaching the highest ranks in the game while using scripts, and their accounts are still not banned so far
Yeah I believe it. While making this video I found a scripter who was bragging about using scripts in Masters.
Makes you wonder how many players on top of the ladders are doing some funny business 🤔
@@NicolaiLol they all are if you played this game for more then 5 years u regualr play against masters and diamonds. in my norms i do yet i cant make it out of silver and i sht on those masters n diamonds and plats and everybody says oh they not trying and i say you dont play to lose either
Idk I once abused an alistar bug (being able to stun using only W if you backed while in the animation) to win a flex game and I was scared all that week of being banned for using a bug in my advantage.
*man, you didn't mention the rek'sai bug in which the champion used burrow and somehow someway was one shotting everything known to man, not even baron was safe,*
Btw: Riot not only doesn't ban thesr guys, but also doesn't have a working anti-cheat system. If a cheater is banned, it's due to a very high amount of reports that triggered an analysis from someone from Riot. The anti-cheat system barely works or recognises a cheater, because it's very badly developed. That makes it very easy and common to cheat in LoL, no matter how little the cheat is
Thanks for the video!
yeah i got my account broken into, guy deleted my whole friends list, bought himself 30ish chests and got banned for few weeks only, pretty sure he kept the items from chests
Oh man, you could do that sion bug without a script, I remember that you could spam the "s" key and make much less precise movements that still won games! That was around the time of his original rework, I don't know if it's the exact same bug
In my opinion anything that you can do in riot's game or launcher shouldn't be ban worthy, as long as you're not using any third party program it's just Riot's fault and they're the only ones to blame for not fixing it. If there is some kind of game breaking bug people shouldn't be punished for abusing it unless Riot explicitly states that you will be banned for it in the game/game launcher.
True, but sadly everybody know Riot's favorite activity past looking itself in the LCS mirror is slapping their players in the face
Sion and neeko bug require a third party
@@TheEllord33 So?
i'd bet you 50 bucks it's covered in their tos
Edit: not covered in their tos, but it is covered in their code of conduct, which may as well be a soft tos:
BEHAVIORS THE COMMUNITY REJECTS
Cheating
Third party exploits, hacks, bug abuse, account sharing, account boosting
Consequences for violating the Code of Conduct can include (but are not limited to): Temporary or indefinite suspension from League of Legends, or all of Riot’s games.
So yeah, it is mentioned actually, and pretty noticeably too. Literally when you make an account they say "hey, abusing ANY bug on purpose is bannable". Not their fault you forgot.
tbf the Neeko bug is the funiest bug i ever saw... Oh and support bots got of Yummi, they play Annie now
I can already see people getting Sion's bug ban unfairly. Way back i saw a video that explained that this Sion script is just constantly reproducing an already existing bug that happens when Sion's ult suddenly change directions and most of the time it F's you up into a non intented direction. Riot being Riot would not surprise me if someone got lucky with this bug once or twice and got banned.
I "abused" a small bug to win a ton of games, altho I don't know if you can really say that the bug carried the thing
I always played akshan with lethal tempo and he had a bug where the 2 passiv shots gave him 3 lethal tempo stacks, I think since I always played him with lethal I was one of the first people who saw and used it, it was there for quite some time before eventually going in everyone's build and then being fixed
I mean the transfer abuse one just sounds like smurfing but on main ?
Bro you’re views are going down but I still enjoy the vids
I really love how he talks about the sion glitch being even worse because it uses external software AFTER promoting a service that gives you info ingame that you aren’t suppose to have….
im pretty sure Porofesor is endorsed by riot games themselves.u dont get any secret information that other players dont have or anything.literally just a bunch of stopwatch apps in one app.more of a i hate maths app then scripting app
but who cares about hackers destroying the game, atleast there is chat ban system and a new lux skin for sure too
im neeko otp and dint have that bug ..only sometimes her clone would just stand
the sion bug is not fixed its happend to my friend by mistake while playing sion 4 days ago
Riot: Do you want to cheat? Pay us money and we are good.
Where can i find 0:27 clip?
Kled mains have been suffering ever since.
i ve been playing on the same account scripting for the last month while also having a setting enabled that typed XD every time i got a kill or assist and i am still not banned
I'd consider using porofessor for exact timing/tracking of summoner spells 'cheating' as well. It definitely gives an unfair advantage that riot didn't include themselves
You can literally put a stopper on your phone to track spells. Stop being such a clown
In its defense, you can track summs time after a bit of practice to make it a habit
@@AlMeZero i do agree with this one, but that's still a player skill as you need to get used to timing it yourself. Pretty certain porofessor also tracks if you have the shorter summoner cooldowns as well from insight which you can't always be sure about normally
@@plusserx2 There's a pretty weird way to tell, assuming this patch didn't change it since I hadn't done this in a while. Just hover your cursor over a summoner spell in scoreboard, and it should have a lower cooldown if that player is running Cosmic Insight. I don't use Porofessor or any 3rd-party though, since cursed with being a Garena player (not for much longer, thankfully.)
@@AlMeZero that's really good to know, i'll have a look in game next time i'll play. Thanks :)
0:35 correction. Some bugs last FOREVER.
It do be like that sometimes 😔
Can't wait for the next video about scripts
Riot can't afford to ban someone and lose him as a potential customer, they would much rather silence everyone being anything remotely toxic and pretending they're not toxic anymore than just getting rid of blatanly toxic people
The Transfer Bug, I bet Riot let it trough, because it makes them tons of money.
@nicolai people who didnt got ban are those whos account got compromised because there is discords selling hacked accounts so people use hack in them , RIOT unban the compromised accounts
they got acctually banned and unbanned afterwards because owner claims them
So all you have to do is fake an account hack and then your accounts become unbannable ? Doesnt really make sense...
@@mechanicalsilence1 they can see ip adress change and windows and know that is compromised from the logs
please make a playlist for all of your videos.
Well the inly bug abused was ina Ultimate spellbook wher i as pyke could see the real neeko whe n she used the clone
Yesterday i was playing shen and Rd my mid lane yone under tower, he was playing against yasuo, yasuo and yone had both 1 item (shieldbow) . Yasuo had around 260 hp while i had around 1400, he dived both of us under tower, i landed my E and yone landed his R, but yasuo not only killed both of us after being attacked the whole time by 2 champions and the tower for almost 8 sesconds but he never took damage below 10% hp, even when he was running away from the tower he took 2 tower shots WITHOUT TAKING ABSOLUTELY ANY DAMAGE.
You should upload the replay
Skill issue
cope, cap
Assuming this is true, upload the replay in reddit or here
its the hidden stats they have. you see it in aram with the balance buff so to speak but they have hidden modifiers in the game he probably had like a negative 50% damage cause the game thought it would be more fun for everyone if he won the fight not realizing its yone and he just gets stronger
One of script that is undetectable i seen it work and isint expensive is to see your enemy champ that they want to select name and role
Interesting 🤔
dude i been dealing with this on some of my ganks where they have no vision no nothing wave under my side turret and they just leave for no reason
I miss the days when the sion bug could of been triggered by just spaming H while ulting
2022 and sion's ultimate still hits walls and does a 180 instead of crushing 20% of the time
Does anyone know the name of the song that starts at 5:40 ?
I believe its "Shine Spark" from a game called VA-11 HALL-A
@@NicolaiLol thank you
well what a surprise, riot just dont care about us trying to rank up 😥😥
Ty for the Video
Ty for watching!
Is it possible that rito doesn’t ban every cheater cause they use them to track new bugs/cheat?
Ur giving them too much credit ,
When riot discovers an expensive bug to fix they do the ostrich approach of just pretending they can't see it
Until too many players use it/content creators cry about it and they decide its time to dig into the giant mess of spaghetti code to figure out whats wrong
I dont think Riot should ban people for using a BUG. Using an alternate program like the Sion bug obviously is clearly a 3rd party software, but I have seen people be banned for using the old GP bug that reset your ult cdr. That isnt that game impactful, and its Riots fault its in the game in the first place and they have not disabled the champion. Shouldnt be banned for something like that.
I am an ex d2 katarina otp that started to script as adc and got master (still not banned)
The yuumi bot account in this video actually changed name to Bean Addiction in the NA server xD. pdggdnu is also a bot account.
good video !
Thank you !
7:00 I have this kind of MMR. I got to Diamond with just 9 wins.
i did the sion bug like legit without scripts maybe i have ping or smth
Remember when timers like porofessor were not allowed?
reminds me of this account with 99% winrate in flex, rank 1 with over 1000 lps over the rank 2. This shit is just very odd to me yet Riot doesn't investigate.
that account is shared by like 10 challengers who buy iron level accounts so you have that one with four iron accounts who are actually challenger playing i think agaisnt plats and they jusst wanna see how high they can get it
@@Maddogg500 and apparently that's okay lol
Account transfer is not cheating and about the Sion, I thought that I didn't know how to control his ultimate but thank you.
It's kinda ironic that the video is about getting away with cheating while there's Porofessor and their enemy tracking device.
IMO, cheating is anything, but litterally ANYTHING that has to do with doing something the game CLEARLY doesn't want you to do, and is DEFNITLY unintentional. The RP gains transfer is 1 of them so in my book, perma-ban any1 who did it. It should be quite easy to trace if it was done recently (Due to certain lawss in the EU yo ucan't hold information for longer then 2(?) years i believe, so that information would have been lost)
got trolled ny a yuumi bot in gold promos. definitely didn't go out of my way to contact support.
Definitely.
and i get a perma for offmeta pick...
0:50 the app provide enemy them your name and if your name matches with your champ they ban it, RIOT DO SOMETHING ABOUT THESE APPS
Its not cheating if you abuse a bug , is totally problem of the company. On speedraners you can use everything but not cheat codes or hacks and its completely normal, its stupid to ban a player because your company have a problematic system.
Wait, does riot not give the lp back if a player was cheating? SO many games do that in ranked. Why cant riot????
3:00 he may have gotten ban... buit the player who lost didn't get their lp back
The reason is simple, Riot fought cheats by hiring the people who coded them.
WAIT A MINUTE so that's why server xfers are disabled in brazil for over 2 years
Lmao the huangfeng picture hahahaha
Anyone else remebering the global Poppy Q bug which got those who had to play against it banned while the Poppy with 100 kills and literally ALL CS OF THE GAME got a without problem? That is the prime example of why League will always stay a broken and toxic mess, cause this case shows there is no human who manually reviews any games and everything is automated by a flawed bot, Riot is a billion dollar company yet can have actual human being check games like this?
Why I always find late when there is great exploit or cheat?😂😂
lol
I call bs on the account transfer cheat. That shit is disabled 9 months out of 12, far too inconsistent to pull off as an actual strat.
just got banned for using overwolf
well, bug exploiting and scripting are two very different things imo.
This is why I quit playing both PC LoL and Wildrift
My friend has been scripting for a year and only got banned for swearing
Mans greatest crime: bad language.
good video :)
Thanks, Reef
You really managed to stretch a 3-5 minute video to 10 minutes. Nice.
Dude they have a chamion that literally is a buggy mess. You can't hit her for most of the game and she doesn't have a hitbox. yuumi
In my opinion
If you abusing somethink riot messed up, it's "ok" we play same cards.
but
If you scripting/using 3rd party programs with in game actions your mind are same as 7yo kid playing with aura on small pvp minecraft server.
if there's a bug on the champion, simply just ban it
Cant ban all champions with a bug + broken af champions that are unfair to play against.
if riot doesn't take direct action against something obvious it's probably because its a chinese player and tencent told them no
"Cheating are for losers, and you, are epic"
Nah, we're just non-cheating losers lol
Cheating is based in Pokemon nuzlockes (rarecandy to avoud grinding)
How tf is this worth 1.5 billion? Their only form of revenue is selling skins on a free game. They have no direct revenue, no advertising. They have 150 million total users and out of that probably around 2.5% of those players buy skins. How does 3 million users buying $10 skins = $1.5 billion? This company needs to do some explaining. Their lack of transparency is unfortunate.
Porofessor sponsor on a video about cheating is kind of hilarious. Third party tools with ingame assistance are obviously cheating, but it's a rough one, when you can't really police it.
I used to script. 80% wr to whatever elo i wanted. The skill is in making it look human. I used super long delays and turned any dodging or whatever off. Miss chances were set to high. Never got banned even once. 30 a month but quit due to a huge ban wave and didnt want to risked my brothers account. They banned everyone via account logs that were on your pc. NOTE: If we formatted drives we were back and running again. Never had to do it for over a year. It sounds weird but scripting is easy, getting away with it is not. Plat player legit.
And for people who will cry: I did it since league started to bore me to death and didnt play anything else. This was somehow entertaining. Imagine planting a chip in ur brain and u now are a proffesional football player.
This is a bad take.
It’s not the players fault that Riot leaves simple exploits in their game. Players who exploit such systems without manipulating the games code shouldn’t receive a ban, but rather just have their rewards from the exploits removed/reset
I agree with you, they should just get the rewards from those games removed and the things that they bought with said rewards (if any), and reseting them to the last time they played before the bug was used.
Bugs its part of game, SO its fair to use it!
If there was a bug that made someone against you able to win instantly im sure that suddenly you would say that's unfair.
If you are using a bug that is in the game, I don't believe you should be banned. If you are using a third party program to do so then absolutely your account should be banned
I'm so tired of people kicking this indie company when they make mistakes. The team is small guys.
But consider that maybe the best idea would be not to ban the cheater but track them until you can find their connectons or source of their cheats
Kinda like why we let drug lords run wild for so long
That is actually what they do, and Nicolai is aware of that since he rely that information in another video
Bro a Script is Not a bug
next week? interesting
Honestly ban people who use scripts yes but people who use bugs that are in the game because riot doesn't know how to fix the game those people are fine as long as they don't do it and ranked I feel like
My probably dumb opinion is
If it is humanly possible to do it it should be fair game
Yeah it is dumb and bad
But if you dont script go for it
I consider akali players worse then any bug
Sooo yeah... don't blame the player, blame the game
The guy that discovered transfer bug and propagated it should sue Riot, he made them earn money, not lose money, and they made him lose all the content he paid for supporting them, because guess what, LoL is a free game unless you choose to support those Riot ( 🤫)bags buying one of those microtransactions. They have no respect for their players and litterally slap them in the face for every possible misdemeanour. If Riot were a foster parent, they'd be called abusive leeches 👏
Cheating is boring, no skill, no thrill and creates dependence to 3rd praty app
I understand the sponsorship,but porrofesor is trash,he doesnt pick the best runes based on the team/enemy comp,the builds are shit most of the time and ye the only good thing its the shared summ spell cd but its not worth having it