Tesla Model X P90DL shuts down with 14 km/8 mi range left
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- During my usual drive from Elverum to Alvdal (167 km/104 mi), the car ran out of juice with 14 km/8 mi left just 7 km/4 mi away from the supercharger. This came as a surprise, but at the same time, I was afraid something like this would happen.
The cause of this is probably that BMS was knocked off and didn't know what the max and min values were. This could be due to many supercharger sessions we had in our Europe road trip we had a week before.
The fastest solution when this occurs is to get a tow from any car. But in this case, the park brakes wouldn't disengage. So the only way out was to wait for a flatbed. The price for the service is usually 3000 NOK ($350/€350). Tesla warranty doesn't cover this car because it has passed 100k km. But insurance covered it. I only had to pay 500 NOK ($50/€50) for the rescue.
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Eats random roadside berries, runs his battery low...this man lives on the edge! 😂
6:45 onwards, Dating Tips with Bjørn
LMAO! Made my day! Didn't notice it the first time I watched it :)
Epic! LOL!!!!!
hahahahahahahaha thought I was the only one who was thinking that, that whole scene was just so funny and hilarious. I mean everything he was saying, I was rolling on the floor with laughter.
lol
Wow...I din't catch that the first time but my God that was funny
3:30... Just casually eats random berries... 🙈
Alexander Cross 4:22
Alexander Cross Not random berry. Crandberry of I'm correct
poison berries dies 3 hours later
😂 He was just like oooooohhhh whaaat theee heck! A berry 😂
that were on the floor
the car charging on top of the truck is the best photo ever ;) the tweets made my day
if he could have opened both wings the car could have flied off by itself
haha lol
The tow mode problem you had is a known bug. I wasted an hour on that too when I was changing tires. To engage tow mode, you slide to ON then immediately OFF again, and the slider will go to ON. It's messed up.
WTF!
Fire blade no cuss
@@JignaPatel194 in that case definitely required :'D
You are a very patient man
I did stop for a pee pee exactly where that berry u ate :)
wow ok
That's the reason why he only ate 1
Finally!
Tesla with diesel sound!
Thank you for taking one for the team! Lesson learned.
"I was as usual stretching my limits" :D
Many people would have freaked out in your situation. You kept your cool very well the whole time; I commend you for that.
So sorry you got stuck out like that Bjorn. I've had this happen to me in a BMW i3. Absolute nightmare! But you only learn from making mistakes in this life. Glad you managed to get a charge. Very cool video to help people learn something about electric cars. 😎👍
So what was the problem with tow mode?
Why was the tow truck running all the time?
Because it's a fossil truck. In the future we will have electric tow trucks.
Diesel Ideling Myth:
Long Long time a go when our grandfathers were young. Both diesel engines and battery/electric starter motor technology were also young. It was difficult to get a diesel motor running in any other than perfect weather conditions, to cold intale air, engine too hot, oil to thick ect. Also, battery capacaties were much lower, starter motors were weak ect.....
Considering all the above, the un written law with drivers and owners of deisel equiptment evolved as follows basicly: "once you got your diesle running, it is BETTER leave it running till you get back home"..
So, now a days it seems the above may still be influencing owners and operators actiona along with the Machoism of wantiong all to know that this man own/drive a Macho Diesel Vehicle perhaps.
Modern Tow Vehicles Idling:
Even new tow truck vehicles need to keep all their saftey lights on along with also provide power to all the hydrolic equiptment to load up the vehicle, ecample slideing back the massive truck bed/load deck into the load position, winching up the vehicle on the deck, sliding the deck back up over the wheels into the transport vpssition ect.
So, it actually is mandatory the tow truck driver keep his vehicle powered up in orber to not need to call of a battery jump for his tow truck due to running his battery to low.. AND most of the hydrolic actuators get their hydrolic presure from a pump coneted to the power take off from the diesel engine. A 12/24 volt electric hydrolic pump just won't do the big jobs....
I personaly have 3 diesel and 2 ICE vehicles . With modern technology it is now said and scientifically speaking n proven, if you idle your vehicle for more than 15-20 seconds, it is better to turn it off and re start. And this is what I do daily. Example: One stop light I need to traverse regularly has almost a 90 second cycles thru time. I actually turn my vehicles off at this light and in ligh at a drive thru window, banks-fast food ect.
the diesel was balancing his nox... ;-)
Thanks for your comment.
Yes, safe to say ALL chemical actions to include human life have adverse chemical conciquesnces to it's own enviroment........
AND
Modern Life of our species (7 billion of us now n growing) is perhaps the LARGEST amount adverse chemical released into it's own home, not just one tow truck in Bjorn's video sadly......
Thanks for your comment.
Idling barely uses fuel.
7:23 sheet man! Haha, hilarious Bjorn. 15:54 and a few times before - you can see the car keep trying to boot up with the spoiler and lights then keeps shutting down. 19:07 epic opening the falcon wing doors while on the flatbed! Oh and eating the berry - thumbs up from me.
Put a diesel generator in your trailer ;-)
Too dirty. And it takes up precious space for Nimber tasks. I have my CHAdeMO adapter. That will work just fine.
put a solar panel on top of the trailer lol
I think they r too big and heavy to always carry around
just ask tesla to set up a supercharger station there... for next time
he actually said, he had passed a supercharger nearby, but he likes "testing the boundaries" so there he goes ;/
"You just have to find the hole, and screw it...uhh, yeah...."
Well, I never do this even with my petrol car, to go to14km range left :-)
Anyway, as you said, never go below the zero :-). Good lesson you taught us (and maybe yourself too :-))
Great video Bjorn, I now follow you on facebook, I'm looking forward to new videos.
"Any juice is good juice" also applies to Bjorn, that's why he ate that berry! ;-)
'How deep is it gonna be?!"
I am sorry for your car but I just can't stop laughing when you attaching the tow hook to the car...
THAT was horrific. Notice Bjorn cool and clear-thinking. Impressive.
// This experience will be very helpful information for the rest of us.
Daniel Murray horrific?!?! I hope you are never in a real crisis.
Daniel Murray
Clear thinking? He thought that stretching it to the KM and throwing in a heavy trailer would be fine.
clear thinking = decides to run the car down to the last km on a long trip with heavy load
I just have to find a hole and screw it.. yeeaaah..
keep on screwing till it stops. its too deep.
Mmmmmmm, berries :)
Lance Gordon i
Sure that’s a berry? Not dear droppings?😆
lol berries - definitely its not poisonous.
Listen to your uncle björn haha
Lmao I can’t believe he ate it...
Hei Björn Are the birds inside still alive? :-)
They died from Ludicrous acceleration afterwards.
LoL :-D
At least you had something to eat after all that waiting around.
:-)
What concerns me is the fact that you couldn't get the towing mode to engage. I noticed on the display that the frunk was still open. Is it possible that for safety reasons Tesla doesn't allow the towing mode to engage if the car senses that the frunk is still open?!?
Are the birds still alive??
TheMuratunver in his other videos you can find the recipe
U had ludicrous mode on smh🤦🏼♂️
Classic quote....."find the hole and screw it.....deep enough...." Haha...love you Bjørn!
Don't do what "uncle Bjorn does "
Tesla should work on allowing one Tesla to take some charge from another one. Not "vehicle to grid" but a simple "Tesla to Tesla", so wo we could help each other out with a quick charge to get you to a charger.
Hey Bjorn, I'm a huge fan from Australia.
Just FYI, you could just put your car in N instead of tow mode. So long as you don't get out of the car it will stay that way.
Not possible.
Try put it in N and leave the door open.
can you charge a tesla by pulling it with another vehicle? regen braking to recharge the battery fully?
ronald rogerson probably could but software wont allow it
Yes. But the brakes were locked.
I think the reason the tow mode only is available when the brake is pressed is because the brakes regenerate power so you need to keep you foot on the brake to regenerate more power.. just a thought
Loved this video. Eating the berry so casually topped it off. Great one!
@Bjørn, I was looking for months for really detailed and interesting video about what will happen if Tesla runs out of battery. Had no luck until this day. And suddenly you made the best video of all about it. You are RUclips Tesla King! ;)
P.S.
Will you buy and test Tesla 3? ;)
can't believe he ate that berry...birds must have been getting to him, haha
It was a software bug preventing it to stay in tow mode, not because the frunk was open or 12v battery being low.
Lmao 😂 there are berries here 🤣
A small generator. ThT has a single phase 220-240 volt outlet with a cable to provide power to car would be economical and while maybe only 30-40 amps charging rate you pull it out a fire it up and plug in and wait an hour or so then your on you way. Friend of mine brought a small 5000 watt generator with him so he could go places in mothers Maine where there aren't any people and he used the small generator in a small utility trailer and he Used The Tesla Hotel and he said while it wasn't as good as grid power it worked.
Next time your towing if you have a small gas generator it could get you out down the road even though it's a pain to luck around its still better than a tow.
Sorry for your problems on that trip
:-)
It would be nice if any EV would have at least a CHAdeMO or CCS >output< for helping others in such situations. This would be the prerequisite for using "new generation" booster cables. Sono showed that feature at their Sion prototype (at least for 230V output).
Li-ion and BMS with wrong data can be very unpredictable escpecially when doing only partial (dis)chargres. It is wise to do cycle 100->0 % and 0->100 % sometimes, not because it would be good for battery chemistry like at Ni-Cd/NiMH accumulators, but in order to make calibration of BMS and prevent such sudden battery "death"
Try use waze, there’s a Roadside Assistance that may be useful someday
quizas no entenderás mi comentario, porque hablo español, pero lo escribo por si otra persona (de habla hispana) tiene o tuvo el mismo problema. Las baterías NO DEBEN descargarse del todo, porque se dañan, siempre quedan cargadas un 15 o 20%. Por lo tanto, la energía está, la computadora detecta que puede hacer 14 km aún, pero el software limita los motores para que no funcione y así evitar la descarga total.
For the rage/ranting ppl in comments:
Well.. shit happens. Now let's not generalize. k ?
1) The car is past the 100.000 km mileage milestone.
2) He pushed the limits of the battery [myself wouldn't let it go below 30km ]
3) If it's a software issue with detecting/estimating the correct battery charge [maybe will get better]
4) Probably the fact that he was towing a trailer messed-up with the dashboard range estimations [maybe it's something Tesla omitted]
5) Most important fact: could be an isolated faulty battery case, not present in other teslas.
Bottom line: YES shit happened. Shit happens with petrol car as well. IF it was a software issue, guess what: it will get better and better and more bulletproof with each iteration. *But that is not a reason to generalize and discredit the upcoming future.*
Tow mode was not working because your front trunk was open .... i think so.... Display shows that ....
Watch from 8:00. Frunk was closed at first attempt.
prob need more juice like he said
Maybe there is a sensor for the tow hook to be completely screwed in?
Why is the tow-hook screwed in c-clock wise? Was the tow hook screwed in at all?
Probably because most ropes twist counteclockwise when stretched, or something like that.
I hope we get an update on why Bjorn wasn't able to put it in "Towing" mode.
All you need is a spare deep cycle battery and a 1500 watt inverter to charge the car enough to put it in park. I ran out of charge with my leaf and was still able to put it in neutral but not drive.
You are meant to get a tow truck for electric cars which can re-charge you on the road, enough to get to a charging point. In future any other electric car will be able to give you some power, even if slowly. So this won't be a problem for very long, although it might be still for a few years.
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There should be an emergency charging service to charge enough to reach a charger. Much better than towing ☺️
It must provide fast enough juice though. Waiting 1-2 hours for slow 3,7 kW juice is not good enough. It should be a 20 kW DC or something at least.
A chademo charger would be fine, but even a level 2 charger would be good. Anyway I never ran out of juice ☺️ even in Norway. Just strange nobody offered that. I think it will come as it is so obvious and Tesla could provide it to relieve range anxiety for new buyers.
I've been thinking about this for a long time now. There should be vans or trucks with a built-in 50-100 kWh battery and fast charger that can deliver 50-100 kW. Basically a mobile Supercharger. Also, there should be a heavy duty powerbank on the market, with a capacity of at least 2 kWh for emergency situations, like this one, or off-grid work. It would be a box that you can carry around, maybe the size of a conventional 12V battery, but Lithium-Ion-based and able to deliver up to 3kW. It would take about 30-35 min to transfer 1.5 kWh to the car battery. That should be enough for roughly 10 km at low speed, very low speed with a trailer. These emergency units should be rentable or buyable at every gas station and every towing and emergency service should have some of them, bigger versions with more capacity and higher speeds of course, say 5-10 kWh and 7-14 kW. Just imagine if the charge unit the emergency guy used to charge your 12V battery with would have been bigger and charged your car at the charge-port. Even a charge at only 3 kW would have been better than all this stress and the towing, even if it would have taken 1 hour. You could have taken a walk there and filmed stuff. ;)
Also, Tesla should built-in an emergency brake-release.
As the other guys have been saying, I wouldn't be surprised to see breakdown service vehicles get fitted with a high capacity battery - say 10 or 20kwh. Just enough to zap some juice in and get the customer to the next charging point.
Most already carry a tank of petrol and diesel, so it's a logical progression.
You can just imagine the phone call: Hello I'm sorry to bother you, but my car has broken down 'cos the battery is flat. "No problem, we'll send someone to zap you as soon as we can".
Fast charging rescue vehicles are available here in Australia. I'm surprised Norway does not have them. See:
www.goauto.com.au/news/general-news/electric-vehicles/nrma-to-the-rescue-for-evs/2011-07-12/24929.html
kind of ironic.. while watching this on my lap-top I got a message telling me to charge the battery, mind you all I had to do was put down my coffee & reach under the desk... keep up the one man tesla advert bjorn
Simple. You're pulling the trailer uphill which means the voltage drop is much higher. Once it breaches a certain lower limit the car will shut down to protect the battery.
I got an older S 2013 and it is on my mind to carry a battery pack that can juice the car up 4-8 miles. They sell Tesla battery packs (Ebay) that you can easily convert into a power bank for a Tesla like a charger for your iphone that a lot of people carry in their backpacks. It will take like 2hrs to boost but hey you will not be stranded. I'm looking into it right now :)
Good warning always keep 20 km
Perhaps the tow hook was not properly engaged. It seemed you had a problem when turning it? I find this channel really interesting! LOL, I’m laughing because I own a 98’ Taurus! Some day over the Rainbow I’ll get a Tesla! Thanks for sharing.
Sorry for your trouble but thanks Bjorn. Great lesson for Tesla owners present and future. Just one of those paradigm shifts when you switch to EV. I can understand brake locking for safety in very low power event, but surely there should be a mechanical brake release option?
Thanks for sharing. I wonder if this happens again after you have balanced the battery. Not sure how you would test it without the risk of getting stranded again!
I sometimes drive my Model S 85kWh to zero and had it already three times a few kilometers below. Never had a problem doing this. But if you see the power limit drop below 200kW (for a P Model), then the charger should be near. What I always every few month is balancing at 100% and drive it down to zero to give the BMS a chance to adjust. For this you have to top up, drive down to zero and then top um again. Then the BMS knows where the batteries are.
There is no reason for the truck driver to let the engine running unless he uses A/C , heater or some other power consuming device on. It's a small truck so it takes no time to run again normally after 20 min. Air brakes hold the air until you release them they don't require the engine running since the air is stored for parking purposes too.
That part with berries was epic :)
But why is the tow trucks engine still running???
why not
@@Partyaap050 waste of fuel
@@dastomde1529 doesnt matter that much
@@Partyaap050 I don't think he understands how idling works in a Diesel that it's not like petrol vehicles and it doesn't really matter when you have a 30 gallon Diesel tank
Why was the spoiler opening and closing repeatedly when the car was dead and on the trailer and unplugged? Bug? Trying to turn on? Any idea?
killerrabitwherexis4
Keyfob and autopresent.
He went close to Optimus prime and the car opened itself (see flashing lights, backlights) and the spoiler. Funny since the 12v battery was to low to release the parking break lol.
You should have App for battery health, Kman I think have one. You will see voltage difference between cells. To see the largest difference you should look when the battery is in bottom or top on SOC that is then you see the most. You can hunt which group of cells is way off.
"Listen to your uncle Bjorn because... ooh random, possibly poisonous berry by the side of the road, let me eat that!" :-)
My SWAG: due to added load, you momentarily peaked just below the min allowed voltage and it triggered the low charge mode. Under lower load/current, you might have been able to fully extract those 14km of range left.
What a great car.
They should make some crank charging. If you are low on battery, you can use crank to charge it up so at least basic stuff will be on
You are really patient man! I would have go nuts in similar case.
Very strange that the tow hook has a left hand thread.
In the UK, the breakdown services (RAC, AA) all carry with them a 5kWh battery pack in their vans for this sort of situation. Perhaps the Norwegian versions should do the same! :)
You would have to press the off button once your pressed the on button. That would engage the tow mode
To enable tow mode you need to close the frunk
I wish you had the Tesla Spy app so you can see if it's a battery balance problem or a weak group caused by a dead cell in one of the parallel groups.
I really like your accent, keep up with these awesome videos! :)
When you have 20% left on your phone and it suddenly shuts down :D
That's keep happening on my phone and then it says 0%
You could put a diesel generator for emergency charging in your trailer.
You just have to find the hole and screw it,after you've eaten the berry on the side of the road.how did I find this guy.funny as hell
What is the range of this Model X P90D? You started the trip with the battery fully charged?
I charged to about 85 %. A full charge would take 30 minutes extra (for just 30-40 km more range). Not worth it.
Yeah, true! I heard that it's not really healthy for the battery to be charged every time at 100%, only when you go on long trips.
john dillenger what lmao
@@claudiuhossu3504 It wasn't full because the charge is slower at the end of the charge.
You can charge 100% battery if you have time. The car solves itself.
Just don't keep it for 100% long.
If he had been driving a little slower, he would accelerate more carefully, he would have spent a little bit more, then he could have passed through the mountain ridge.
I think he knows this right now :)
You should try the TM-Spy app, and see cell balancing directly from BMS.
In this Situation i Love the Sound of Diesel :-)
i like how you named your Tesla "Optimus Prime" xD
Maybe throw a high output generator in the trailor fully gassed up and ready to go to plug your charger into to put enough power back into the battery? Just remember to turn everything off to prevent surging. ?
This happened to us with our Model X 90D. 5 miles left and 1 mile to super charger and the car shut down.
This was at midnight on our way home with 2 kids. Sent the wife and kids home with an uber. It took me several hours to get home waiting on the tow truck then charging.
At the supercharger it would not even charge until we jumped the 12v battery.
Well i have never trusted my fuel gauge if it goes too low :(
I imagine there will soon be services that provide mobile rapid charges of at least ten miles. Towing seems excessive.
Yeah like a tow truck with a gen
Batteries are good for lots of things. But when it comes to moving heavy loads (like a car) it’s useless.
There’s a reason internal communication work as you can go from an empty tank to full in a few minutes and lasts 2-4 times as long as a battery which takes almost a day to charge from empty
Isn't tow mode is for towing stuffs?
Laughed when you interrupted yourself to mention you had birds in the car.
I find it interesting that the car could power the displays and move the windshield up and down whilst not being able to disengage the brakes.
It was a software bug.
still did a better job than the nissan leaf in the same sort of predicament.
when my 2012 LEAF SL dies on me (happens fairly often, i only get ~35 miles from a full charge) the 12v battery is pulled low immediately and as a result i can't even turn the car off (yup, so 12v gets pulled VERY low and damages the battery sometimes). with 12v low i also can't charge (only tried level 1 charger in that state, maybe L2 or L3 would have worked?) - i have to hook up jumper cables for a while just to get the car to enable the normal charge port!
can't wait for my tesla model 3 (i'm in queue, delivery estimate between feb and april 2018). even if this happens to me it's still better than what i've got right now!
Birds and berries video :)
I had that happen to me in my Model S. It said I had 2 miles left and I was backing up to the supercharger and the car just shut down! I only had 15 more feet to go! I'll never make that mistake again.
In a not digitalised vehicle, you just could put in the neutral gear.
There are always some problems like this with software-controlled vehicles.
yeah wen you get under a sertain voltage the battery pack wont chardge any more because this can damadge the battery packs
I truly think (even though I fully understand that it would likely be VERY slow) there should be an array of solar cells built into a portion of the body of EVERY Tesla so that in situations like this, at least one could charge the batteries (even if very slowly) and hobble to the next charging area without absolutely reliant on having to call a tow truck, etc.
voicetube useless. Would take days to charge even for the slightesst increase. And don't forget the on board computer sips 300 watts alone, thats a 1m by 1,5 meter solar panel...
voicetube unfortunately the time a solar panel will take to deliver any useful energy to the car would be in the order of days.
"There is some hidden degredation in the below 0 buffer"
Doesn't this change everything we thought we knew regarding battery degredation and stuff? So after all, batteries might degrade way faster than previously thought?
When u put it in park, are the front wheels still unlocked? So the parking pawl and e-brake are both only on the rear axle? Or can both axles be locked like a FWD car can. Tow truck needlessly idling..
I think I saw you before in a Singapore Hawker Center; I'm sure 100%!
You are a brave man. It sure looked like you were stripping threads inserting the tow hook. Thanks for exploring the boundaries of "crazy".
what happened to tow mode?
battery life is calculated on past history, current driving,... all battery devices suffer from this... at least you're not mad... your fault for letting it run too low... good advice though about not going too low... I liked because you're a decent sounding guy and learned from an easy mistake we all would end up doing :)