Don't Buy Ordro Camcorders
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- Опубликовано: 23 май 2020
- Generic camcorders are available all over the internet. The vast majority of them are greatly overpriced for what you get. Ordro seems to be a common name, as well as Zohulu and Ancter. I have reviewed the AC5, the AC3 and the AZ50. I call each one a bad value in my review, but I still get questions about them which suggest that people believe they are the best camera they can afford, or that they are good for the price. In this video I attempt to further explain why I don't think these cameras are a good value, particularly if you are on a tight budget.
As requested by several viewers, I have set up a Patreon account. Any support is appreciated, but absolutely not required.
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1 minuet of silence for people who buy stuff and watch reviews after 😉
Yep this was me but I’m just starting out t
Actually, 50 % of the stuff I buy from Aliexpress is junk. Cheap junk, that is good enough to try out something, and to then know what I really need.
However, I do feel pity for the other Chinese companies which do produce decent goods.
guess your talking about me lol
🤣😂🤣😂😭 Funny this was almost me.....🤦🏾♂️
@@praysja1 i got my 150 back an put a really bad review on the product lol
I was a sucker. Bought one and watched this after. This is AN AMAZING INFORMATIVE AND ACURATE video. If the publisher reads my comment, kudos brother. Well done. We need more consumer advocates, to compensate for our short attention spans and lack of consumer patience/investigation (self included). Thanks again!
Me too. I bought one just because it look cheap for a 4k camera, but now I realize I just bought crap. It hasn't arrived yet, I hope I could return it and have my money back.
yup me too grrr
I was about to buy one but the ancestors told me to watch a review on youtube 😅😅😅
Well done fella.. we were looking at one of these due to a huge discount offer at present.. lessons learnt and ALWAYS check out for guys like you on YT BEFORE you shop.. Kudos.
Thanks for an awesome review and sharing your knowledge. I just got a phone that films in 4k. Was looking to see what a reasonable 4k camcorder would cost with better zoom and similar recording quality. Straight away those camcorders popped up on a google search. So I'm glad I watched this before buying something that to a person who's knows nothing about them, looked like a good deal.
Thank you for this video. I was just about to order an ODRO from amazon until I saw your video. Thank you for your knowledge and truth telling.
I am so glad that I stumbled across this video. I was actually considering buying an Ordro AX65. You have definitely changed my mind.
I haven't tried the AX65, but I have reviewed the AX60. ruclips.net/video/rkbdTKP7UWg/видео.html
I recently bought a similar camera and I've asked for the refund, Handycam Andoer 4k is horrible too.
"That Switch is a Lie" I don't think I've ever heard someone with such a calm monotone voice RIP people apart like that..lol. Keep it Up!
Thanks for the video, very enlightening regarding the quality of this product, and if you are right from an advertising point of view, they have very well managed to visually create an imposing camera and unfortunately most youtubers used to pass things through water lukewarm, so that they may later hire them or give them royalties, they do not dare to give a sincere and technical opinion of what this product really is, so 10 points for your work and comparison, greetings.
Glad you are making these videos. I was/am tempted to get one of these cheap Chinese cams. I have a few of the cheapy Chinese action cams. Some are garbage, but some have suprised me with how decent they are. What I would like is a traditional camcorder form factor, with the guts of a quality Chinese action cam. Difference being a non-wide angle fisheye lens, and a large body to accommodate features like external mic and lighting. Sad to say that these Ordro/clone cameras are not even as good as Cheapy action cams that are less than $50.
They sure seem to me like a cheap action camera in a camcorder body. This particular model has better detail and, sadly, better audio than one of the cheap 4K action cameras I tried, but it has less accurate colors and it costs almost 10 times as much.
Finally an honest video. Thanks. Why are there not more videos that expose rip offs like this. A better question is why would anyone buy a rip off product when there are reviews. Do they just want something amazing for cheap and don't want to bother doing research? It's the American "I want one" mentality. As long as there are enough fools out there then companies that sell garbage will always make money. Look at My Pillow. The pillow guy is Insanely rich from a pillow made from reject material.
Very helpful! Thank you!
I'd actually been strongly considering purchasing one of those. Thanks so much for posting! 📷
Thank you so much for your pragmatic and detailed video. It was exactly what I wanted to know about the Ordro cameras. I'm just about to subscribe, I'm sure it will be worth my time to watch your other videos.. Best Wishes Dave
Honest and informative review. Thanks for this! I saved my money ♥
Thanks so much for such a brilliant tutorial and advice.
im glad i looked this up you just saved me $400
Happy to help. Lots of WAY better options for $400. Take the Panasonic FZ300 for example: $400, 4K video, 24X optical zoom with optical image stabilization, external audio input, weather resistance. That's just one example of many.
bigtb1717 what’s a good 4K camera that shoots at 60 fps (for slow mo while editing) and within the price range of 500$? I was wondering if i should go for the HERO MAX, do you have any better suggestions?
@@basharsafieddine9150 For $500 or less you are pretty much stuck with action cameras if you want 4K60. I wouldn't bother with the HERO Max unless you need 360 degree video. You can get 4K60 in a much cheaper action camera. There are quite a few options in the $250 range (in the US) that can do 4K60.
bigtb1717 bigtb1717 Should I get the Hero 8 instead? Or should I look at the other 4K60 action cameras at lower prices? I’m basically just tryna film my skate sessions and want that nice crisp quality
bigtb1717 btw thanks so much for replying and being this helpful! just joined the bigtb army👍🏽
Thank you so much! I was getting ready to buy one before I saw this review...Thank you again !
Glad I could help. I am currently working on a video comparing 7 different cameras, ranging from $20 to $400, and all of them are better than the Ordro cameras I've tested.
Great video, now that we’re into 2022 is there anything decent that you’d recommend if we are willing to spend a few extra hundred dollars? Thanks
It's tough right now with the supply chain issues and shortages. I suppose it will partly depend on what are your priorities. For instance, what are the most important features: Image quality, long telephoto capability, audio input, image stabilization, long continuous recording. And the next question would be budget.
Camcorders in particular are tough right now. There are some great camcorders, but you will pay more depending on exactly what you want. There are some pretty darn good mirrorless options in the $600-$1,000 range right now. I'm not sure what the used market is like, but I imagine it's a bit barren considering the availability issues.
amazing review. 10 points. To the core. Thank you and you welcome.
This was in my cart on amazon then I saw this THANK YOU
Was looking at it also, wanted to look at reviews first.
Mine too!!!
🤣🤣So crazy I double looked at this and your comment had me cus I did the same
Yup I was sooooo close to buying the AE8 .... but I kept looking and reading reviews ect. Ended up getting the full Ghost Stop Phasm camera, extra light ect the whole deal and so glad I did.
Have you used the Phasm Cam yet? I got one with a bunch of stuck/hot pixels on the sensor and it locked up if I tried to use a card larger than 32GB. They accepted it back and sent me a replacement and it has some stuck pixels too, but not as bad, and it works with large memory cards.
Great job. From every perspective!!!
Thank you for the great, detailed an honest review!
Very, very helpful! Thank you so much
Hey buddy. Great video! Can you please advise what would be a good IR / night vision camera to get without losing an arm or leg? I would like to use it for looking into the night sky
Well, camcorders like this would be mostly useless viewing the night sky. In fact, most camcorders would be poor at that. When a camcorder says it has "night vision" or "IR night vision" it's nothing like the true night vision that is sometimes used for astronomy. On a camcorder, "night mode" or "night vision" is just a higher gain mode where the ISO/gain on the sensor is turned up and often noise reduction is turned up as well. IR night vision is basically the same, but the camera removes the IR filter from in front of the sensor to maximize the amount of light that hits the sensor. This can result in a slightly brighter video. However, it really wouldn't be all that good for recording the night sky/stars.
A "night vision" scope has a photon/light detector and it creates a signal from that and amplifies it. These are often used for visual astronomy. Are you looking for something like this or are you looking to record the sky/stars?
Thank you for your useful review, it made me think twice about Ordro. I intend to buy Palmcorder Ordro M3 5K but have doubful worry while very few reviews, especially the actual video quality vs camera's parameters (sounds very stuninng on Amazon and Ordro website).
Interesting. That's a new one. Maybe I'll check it out.
Just from looking at the ads, a few things stand out. First, it says it has an 8 megapixel sensor, but that's not enough for full, 5K video. 4K is around 8.2 megapixel. Full 5K is more like 14.5 megapixel. So it's certainly upscaling to get 5K. Also, it says "gimbal" stabilized, but the contraption on top doesn't appear to be a gimbal. it's just a thing that allows you to rotate the camera to face forwards or backwards. So it may have a gimbal inside like their little wearable cameras do, but it's tough to say.
wow thank you for making this was going to buy one of theses like you said they try to get you on how it looks . i change my budget to 1,500 now i want to do youtube videos about games and do reviews and record gaming guilds maybe do live stuff what do you recommend. i also was told to get a mirrorless cam over a regular video Camcorder so confuse on what to get
Mirrorless cameras can give good quality and are very flexible, but there's nothing wrong with a camcorder, depending on your preferences.
Will you be wanting to record for very long continuously? Many mirrorless cameras have a record limit, typically 30 minutes, at which time recording will stop and you'd have to re-start if you want to keep recording. Generally camcorders have no limit. Some mirrorless cameras have no limit, but it's something to consider if you want to record for more than 30 minutes or so at a time.
$1,500 opens up a lot of possibilities. Heck, even a Panasonic GH5 and basic lens would be within that budget and it's a fantastic camera.
Phew! I've been hours from buying that garbage. Something told me to look for reviews and thanks to unseen forces found yours :) Thanks a lot.
Me too :)
Thank you! Which camera do you recommend to buy in Amazon for less than 400 usd for professional use?
When you say "professional use," what exactly will be the use case? What features are most important? Ability for manual exposure control and other "pro" type control settings? Do you need AVCHD recording? Do you need image stabilization? Optical zoom? Interchangeable lenses?
Generally, for anything important, audio is every bit as critical as video quality, and honestly, most cameras $400 and under will have poor audio. So no matter what you go with, you may have to plan on recording audio separately, but that also has a cost associated with it, unless you already have audio recorder/mic, etc.
Thanks, a church I do I.T. work for purchased this camera to live stream their services. I researched it because it doesn't even output audio through the hdmi cable !?! How is this camera suitable for live streaming without that feature alone? Thanks in part to your review, I convinced them to return it, and fortunately amazon accepted, even though it was past the official deadline. (covid... church was closed, so we couldn't test it until recently.)
Thanks for the review - drop-shipping and adverts are destroying the market when it comes to finding quality products.
Thank you for a very detailed informative video. I knew there was something fishy with these "cheap" cameras all over the internet and am glad to know I'm not the only one that noticed. I say this because I'm currently looking for a good camera for my own purposes at a reasonable price because I've got a tight budget. I've operated a ~$400 Canon camera and an ~$900 Panasonic 4k video camera for organizational uses so the video quality differences are extremely obvious as an experienced video editor photographer. I've also got high expectations with capture quality from years' self-experience with cameras in my consideration.
Based on another comment, I'm planning to buy a Panasonic V180K.
Demo footage alone tells it's an amazing camera, and I look forward to using one.
The Panasonic V180K is one I haven't tested. I hope it will do all you need. Cheers.
I wanted to buy my first camera for youtube and was thinking about buying either the ordro ac3 or the Komery af2 or a canon/nikon DLSR. Now I am no expert at all when it comes to cameras so I couldn't really tell the difference between the value and the performance of those cameras. You probably just saved me 200bucks
a komery is not so good?
Thank you ,thank you very much 🤦🏾♂️, I was just about to purchase this combo setup for my 9yr old daughter who loves to shoot & vlogg
@bigtb1717 Damn I was literally about to buy this ac can for $400 but watched this first 😂 thank you 🙏🏾 but what would u suggest for Vlogging & podcasting? I see a lot of Canons available used 🤷🏾♂️ want to purchase one that will last + one stop shop type of cam
Will your vlogs be walk and talk type stuff, or more of an at a desk type thing? Will you need a lot of zoom?
Depending on your budget, there are a lot of good options out there. Even something like a DJI Osmo Action or a GoPro can work for a lot of situations. If you want better image quality, even some of the "entry level" mirrorless cameras can take very good video. If you need long recording times with no record limit, a camcorder may be the way to go in the $300-$400 range. If you are willing to edit the videos and combine audio after the fact, a portable recorder is a great way to get good audio, no matter the camera you are using. This could be especially important for a podcast scenario.
It sound like you are looking at the used market and there are often deals to be had. Just be sure whatever you get can support the recording modes you need, can support modern media and has replacement batteries easily available, because you don't want to end up with a bad battery and no easy way to get a replacement.
What I normally do is look up the specs for whatever used camera I find and see if it can do what I need it to do, then check to see what media is compatible and if batteries are available.
What do you recommend for a youtube reaction video? something i can record for 3 hours+ at one time. Indoors. Returning a Rebel t6, I didn't realize they only shoot for 30 minutes at a time. Something preferably less than $500. the less expensive the better. it would just be me and a background. I'm going crazy trying to find the right thing. I'm recording audio separately so I'm not as concerned about that. Even just 1080p would be fine. Don't need 4K. thank you!
You will want a camcorder that can be powered externally. Most likely you will be hard pressed to find one with a battery that will last 3+ hours. The price just went back up, but I imagine the sale will come back on the Panasonic camcorders. They have a couple 1080P models that are normally priced around $450-$500. The price of Sony and Panasonic Camcorders recently jumped up due to a bunch of long-running discounts ending. I imagine the sales will return. Even something like the Sony CX-405 or Canon HF R800 would work, but the image quality wouldn't be as good as the Panasonic V770 or V800. Much cheaper though.
OMG I’m glad I watched this video! Thank you so much!!
What great honest review. I found the Ordro camera in a "review" site but the atrocious english grammer made me very suspicious. Well done. Thank you.
just got my Ordro this morning, can't wait to try it :)
Which model?
Excellent review and Thanks for saving money.
What would you recommend for the best night vision camera that’s under $500 for paranormal investigations?
I have another video testing an assortment of IR night vision cameras. Unfortunately, under $500 there aren't a lot of high-quality options. The Sionyx Aurora isn't too much more than that, depending on the version, but it's not a traditional camcorder by any stretch, and it's getting more difficult to find.
You might look for a used Sony or Panasonic camcorder with IR night vision. I got a Phasm Cam to review. The first one I got had a ton of dead or "hot" pixels. After sending them a sample video, they authorized me sending it in and getting a replacement. unfortunately the replacement also has many dead pixels. I think it's still usable, but it's unfortunate. I still plan to review it eventually. I also had issues using a memory card over 32GB in it (as in, it was unusable, kept locking up, etc.).
I don't know if any of that helps, lol. Hopefully you can find something that does what you need.
Thank you so much for doing this. I too, was very close to ordering this exact camera. I need to help make my kiddos sports (baseball) hightlight videos now that we are going into highschool. Any reccommendations?
What is your budget? There are lots of options in the camcorder form factor, as well as point and shoot and mirror-less cameras. I imagine some zoom range would be important for a baseball game.
bigtb1717 correct. Very important for zoom as we are mostly in the stands. It is for high school and little league. Budget would be $200-700
That price range opens up a ton of possibilities. The Panasonic HC-V770K camcorder is currently on sale for $400 and is pretty good. There are a few point-and-shoot/bridge cameras in that price range as well. The first one that comes to mind is the Panasonic FZ300, which is also $400 right now. There are many mirrorless camera options that would allow you to get a body and decent zoom lens for $500-$700 as well. Is there a particular form factor that you are leaning towards?
If you'd rather stick with the $200 price range, the Sony CX-405 and Canon HF R800 are decent options. You can also find some deals on used cameras occasionally.
bigtb1717 for the most part , we are trying to make highlight videos and also live stream
they literally have "4K!" right on the front of the screen, yet struggle to film 1080p in extremely bright summer light
I'm an electronician but i do not know which camcorder is good nowadays.
What whould you advice? I don't need a huge image quality : just a correct one for fixed planned of myself speaking for example.
I need to do stereo recording with external XLR plugged microphones.
These are quality capacitors microphones. Is there an easy way to sync image and record sound with other devices.
I allready own professional sound cards like Focusrite.
If you want to record into the camera with XLR, it's going to take a pretty expensive camera. However, you can definitely record the audio separately and sync it up in a video editing program after recording. Different programs utilize different methods for syncing audio and video, but there's typically a somewhat automatic way to do it, as well as a way to do it manually.
What is your budget? Panasonic, Canon, and Sony are the biggest names in camcorders these days. There are also some good mirrorless options, depending on what you want to do.
Hi can you offer options for actor self tapes: camcorders, dslr or vlogging camera- I dont like using my Iphone- thx
Thanks so much, i actually had the Ordro AE8 in my Amazon shopping cart, LOL.
Thank you! Which camcorder (budget range) would you recommend for vlogging?
Will it be a walk and talk style, talking head style? Will zoom be important? Wide angle? Stabilization?
@@bigtb1717 Live streaming from smaller events. (A theater play, a cat walk etc) Using a Blackmagic ATEM Mini Pro to control four cameras. Each camera on a tripod. I hope its gives you an idea 🙂
That maxes out at 1080p, so there's no reason to spend more for 4K. But those situations may be low light (or at least, poor lighting). So something with a bit larger sensor would be nice. Not cheap though. When you say "budget range," what price range are you thinking?
Thank you so much I was actually considering getting this
Man i appreciate this video, thank you so much
first result in my google search for ordro, thank you for the honest video
Thank you for this review. You saved me a bundle of cash
Hello, I have 2, I have had them for 1 year and I have never had any problems.
Thanks a lot for your work !
I just bought the Ordro HDR-AC3 model, but i was blessed to get it for only $75. I don't like the fact that it does not zoom very far at all, but i think it's something that i can play around with as this is my very first camcorder ever, besides the video camera on my cell phone. But i do want to thank you for this video, because it'll help me in the future when i do become a professional.
With the quality of the product, I think $75 is fairly accurate for what the Ordro should be priced at. Could go lower with that fixed focal length, but $50-75 for someone's first camcorder is an ok toe in the water choice. Just hope you upgraded your audio recording gear fast. People will tolerate a well shot but low quality video for several minutes; just look at how many films from the Silent era still get attention. The audience runs like the plague from bad audio.
Hello & thank you for your advice. But like i said, this is just something for me to play around with & just learn how to use a camcorder. We use a cannon camcorder at my church & i really like it. So therefore whenever i'm ready to upgrade, i'll get one of those. But again, thank you and GOD Bless you! Have a Blessed day!
thank you so much, this makes me stick with the main brands such as Sony. great comparison done here.. take care .
How is the macro lens that is included, as I need it for close up work for youtube videos, just detailed close up work, like fingerprint focusing for detail. thanks if you respond
The macro lens works okay. It lets you focus close, but there is still no way to change the focus point, so there is a very specific distance away the camera has to be from the subject. Also, I find a Sony CX-405 camcorder to focus closer with the built-in lens, as do many point and shoot cameras. I've also bought $7 add-on lenses for my cell phone that let it focus super close as well, not to mention still having autofocus. I think I show the macro lens performance in my Ordro AC5 review.
Thank you for this video, it's worth a subscription
I have used the Ordro AC5 and it does have some optical zoom, but the constant autofocus that mostly doesn't, and the audio quality make it a very poor option. My iPhone SE 2020 absolutely nails it in all areas, which is disappointing. I have used it as where I work, and it was purchased before I arrived.
You are right on all counts. Got me one, 300 and 50 something, in pounds, sterling. Sent it right back. My first camera phone takes better pictures. Wish I had checked out youtube before.
You got any good choices to this camcorder? Thank you.
Are you in the US? Depending on what is available in your area, the Sony CX-405 and Canon HF R800 are both far better than any Ordro I've tested.
Do you have any recommendations on an inexpensive camera to shoot RC flight videos? Every camera on Amazon seems to be a piece of crap.
For something like that I assume you will want zoom and image stabilization, correct? You will also want decent autofocus to track the moving plane/drone. What is your budget? Are you in the US?
Considering how much camcorders have gone up in price lately, some of the cheap camcorders on Amazon are starting to almost look worth it (for $60-$80) if you just want to be able to record video as cheap as possible. But they are still really poor quality and the false advertisements and MASSIVELY exaggerated claims irk me. Even for $60, you don't really get more than you pay for. And it's so hard to tell what you are getting until you spend the money. Will you get one that is actually decent for the money (as long as you are okay with no zoom, odd quirks, not great quality, laggy controls, no image stabilization, etc., etc.), or will you get one that is barely functional, records at odd framerates that programs won't read, has major sound problems (or no sound at all) and more.
@@bigtb1717 What about something in $200 range? Definitely need zoom, stabilization and decent autofocus.
Personally, I think the Sony CX405 is still probably the best option at around $230, but it may be hard to find right now. Unfortunately, prices and availability have been rough the last year or so. Two years ago it was available everywhere and often went on sale for $189-$200. Not so much these days.
The CX405 doesn't have the most amazing image quality, but it has decent stabilization, a good amount of zoom, and not great, but okay autofocus. Normally I would say the Canon HF R800 is another option if you want an audio input jack, but that thing has just gone up in price by stupid amounts in the last year. It used to be $250, but I often saw it for much less and actually saw it on sale locally for like $170 a couple years ago. Then it suddenly went to $300, which is a bit much, and now it's a ridiculous $400. Don't get me wrong, it's a far better camera than the $300-$400 Ordro cameras are, but it's still a 5 year old, entry-level camcorder. I'm really annoyed that it has gone up so much recently. I'd pay $230 for the CX405 way before I'd pay $400 for the Canon, which is a five year old camera with a worse lens than my 11 year old Canon Vixia HF 20.
@@bigtb1717 thank you for all the advice. Much appreciated.
For video clips. Without fancy zooms, are good in image quality?
For basic video without anything special or zoom, any smartphone, a cheap action camera, or even a cheap point-and-shoot camera would have better image quality.
Thank you very much for advice and suggest to avoid this product indeed !
I find your review to be spot on and greatly explains the differences between a pro camera and a consumer camera. At best this camera is a child's toy.
they almost had me...........thanks for sharing.. whats a good 300 dollar 2.7k or 4k ???
There are some decent 4K action cameras for that price, but a good 4K camcorder will be tough to get for $300. The Panasonic FZ300 is 4K pretty good, but it is $400 and is a "bridge" camera, not a camcorder. Are you looking for a camcorder form factor? I just posted a video comparing a bunch of different cameras for video, including the FZ300.
I do a lot of fishing and want to start videoing my trips, also would like the ability to have a remote mike where I can sit in front of boat abut 10-12 feet from camera and sound can be recorded clearly in sync with video. Based on above what camera would best suite my needs?
What is your budget?
An action camera might be all you need, depending on exactly how you are looking to record your trips. The newer GoPro models and the DJI Osmo action both have mic input accessories, but for what you want to do, an external audio recorder might make the most sense. This would allow you to wirelessly record good audio, regardless of the camera used and then you would sync the audio with software after the fact.
You could also get a wireless setup and record directly into the camera to avoid syncing later, but that will require its own considerations and setup.
If you are looking for something you can set to record, get hours of footage and cut it down later, you will need something without record limits or temp issues. If you plan to record shorter clips here and there, just about any video camera could work for that.
Unfortunately, there's really no "Best" camera. There may be a "best" camera for you, but it will depend on what is most important, what features and capability you must have and what drawbacks and limitations you are willing to work with.
Thanks for the quick response.
I shot short clips, (of fish being caught, we crabbing, etc.) throughout the day. I use my I-phone 10 and a Nikon Coolpix AW120, both shot great pictures. I edit them on ArcSoft Medialimpression. My problem is the audio, I cannot record voice on them because I am so far away from camera.
I have a few videos on U-Tube they look OK, but sound is not good.
Do you know of any equipment / accessories that can interface with I-phone and/or AW120 so that I can record wireless with one or both of them.
My budget 3-$400) something simple to use with auto set up on camera.
Thanks
SF
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Depending on which iPhone you have, you should be able to get some type of wireless mic setup for it. If you are willing to sync audio after the fact, a portable audio recorder could work for any camera (even your AW120).
In the $300-$400 range it will be very difficult to get something better than what your iPhone can do and also get some kind of wireless mic system.
Are you willing to sync audio later? What iPhone do you have?
Thanks for info. I bought a pos on Amazon for $180. Made in China 4k HD no brand name at all. I'll be sending it back asap.
Same value but better quality? Mind hooking me up with some products then? I'm looking around and I'm finding absolutely nothing worth getting for these prices.
I need optical zoom, long record time, and a mic input. That's it, and I'm not finding anything at all.
I got one camera, but the mic input was horrible. I'm using a Rode mic, which sounds great in other stuff, but when plugged into the camera I bought it sounded like garbage. I just need something that will let me use my external wireless lav Rode mic, with optical zoom, and long record times.
Any idea? Thanks!
What is your budget? How long of record times do you need? Are you thinking 30+ minutes, or 1 hour+? Unfortunately, prices have gone up quite a bit in the last 3 years or so. For something good quality with optical zoom and an audio input, you are probably going to spend at least $400-$500 (at least, in the US). Panasonic has had some 1080P camcorders on sale recently for around $450 or so.
@@bigtb1717 Thanks for the help. I would prefer 4k, and I need like 1.5 hours. It would be great if it could be plugged in while recording to extend the time.
I'm okay with spending a bit more, but I'm just scared of spending a lot and it not working well. I just need long recordings, with good audio from my pro mic, and optical zoom. I'm doing records of lectures and debates, that kind of thing, so I can't exactly have the camera shoved right up to the person's face.
The Sony AX53 is pretty good. The Sony AX700 is really nice, but it's pretty expensive. I've used an AX700 for 4-5 years and it's been totally reliable. I still use it in all of my welding videos. Both of those cameras include an AC power adapter and can be powered while recording. Both also have 3.5mm microphone input jacks. Those aren't the only options, but they are the ones I have the most experience with. Canon and Panasonic also make good options.
Thank you for this video. It really saved me from buying one of these cheap cameras. I only wish you had link to the two you did like as they seem great. Thank you so much.
Unfortunately, one of the two I showed in this video is discontinued and the new model is pretty expensive. The Canon SX620 is still available, but the price has gone up recently, likely due to how difficult it is to get anything these days. However, I still think the Sony CX-405 and Canon HF R800 camcorders are better than any Ordro. They sit around $200-$250 US most places.
Honestly, it's a bit tough to find deals right now with everything that is going on in the market. But I generally watch for deals on discontinued or outgoing models.
Do you have a budget in mind or a particular feature or features that are most important?
@@bigtb1717 Thank you for the reply. I am looking for a second camera for my RUclips videos. I use my new iPhone for overhead shots and an older 2015 Camcorder for front facing videos. My viewers like to see my face as I work. The problem is my older camcorder only goes up to 1080 and I need 4K for my videos. I do them all at my art station (coloring and Diamond painting) so I don't have to worry about outdoor shooting. I was hoping to spend $150.00 but would be willing to go up to $200.00 it looks like I am out of luck as all of the nicer one seem $500.00 or more. Any advice is welcome.
Are you in the US? Depending on how long a continuous video you need, even something like a DJI Osmo action at $200, or an older Go-Pro (7 or 8) might work for you.
@@bigtb1717 Yes, I am in the US and some of my videos or 30 minutes and some of them are an hour and a half.
Some action cameras will overheat after a while in 4K. I've never tried to run the DJI Osmo action for a long time in 4K. Do you "need" 4K, or are you just looking for better image quality in general?
All this is true. I’m getting an hvx200 or something good soon.
First I want to thank you since I was about to buy the ORDRO HDR-AC5 Camcorder in a special one and after seeing your video made me not do it.
I was going to buy that camera because I saw that it can be used with OBS as if it were a webcam and connect directly to the computer via USB without the need for a video recorder ... but now I would like you to do me the favor of helping me by recommending one. camera similar in terms of characteristics to the ORDRO AC5 .. that has optical zoom and good quality and can be used with OBS USB connection so that it does not generate delay with audio. somewhat low in price but very good quality. Thank you very much in advance for your valuable help
I use a simple HDMI to USB capture device, which can be used with virtually any camcorder these days using the HDMI out on the camcorder. Is that not an option for you?
The generic cameras all seem to be based on webcams or maybe those cheap wi-fi cameras that were popular a while back. So most of them work directly as USB webcams. Some brand-name camcorders can be made to work as webcams directly over USB, but unfortunately, not very many, and it usually requires extra software to make work.
What would you recommend that you could buy for this price that has Nightvision? Most cameras don’t come with IR Nightvision capabilities especially at this price, at least that I’ve found. What, if any, would you recommend?
Unfortunately, there isn't anything very inexpensive with IR mode that is very good, in my opinion. If you are absolutely set on getting a camera with IR mode, many of the generic cameras have it, but none of them are very good. It's just the way it is. Panasonic and Sony both make camcorders with IR mode, but they start at $700 or so and go up from there.
Honestly, all the generic camcorders with IR mode really get you is the ability to record using an IR light. None of them that I've tried (I've tried an embarrassing number of them at this point, lol) really let you see better in the dark, unless you use an IR light. At that point, a regular flashlight would let you see just as well or better anyway. Some of the ones I've tried literally don't even have as bright an image in IR mode as what I can see with the un-aided eye. In other words, walking around my yard at night when there is just enough light to see okay to move around without bumping into things, the "nightvision" mode on the camera would just be showing a black image unless I used an IR flashlight so the camera could see that. Indoors, some of them do okay in small-ish spaces simply due to the built-in IR light. But again, so would a normal flashlight and a normal camera. I don't really see the point unless you want to record without using flashlights that are visible to the naked eye, or you just want that "IR nightvision" look in your recording.
Just to add to my previous comment. If you do just want that IR look or want the ability to record with flashlights that are invisible to the naked eye for some reason (hopefully nothing sketchy, lol) then I'd recommend getting one of the cheaper options you can find that has IR mode (probably in the $100-$130 range) and then get an IR flashlight. The generic cameras that cost $200-$400 are really not that much better.
Well that was my question. Other than Sony and Panasonic (over $700) you don’t have any other options that have an IR mode. You would have to make major modifications to the pens in order to have IR capabilities. Other than Sony, Panasonic, Bell Howell and Ordro there aren’t any other options out there. Unless you know of an inexpensive one that I’ve never seen. Kinda why I asked if there was a specific model u knew of, because I haven’t been able to find any.
I can look for some specific models when I get done working this evening if you want. If you search for "camcorder" on Amazon you will get hundreds of similar models with dozens of different "brands" and a huge number of them have IR mode. Most of them in the $130 price range or so are going to be extremely similar, and most of them have IR mode.
The Ordro Z63 has IR and it's around $85. The one I tried had issues with the audio. The audio worked when played back in the camera, but once the files were transferred to my computer, there was no audio. I tried putting the files in an audio editing program, multiple video editors and even just playing them in different players. All silent. Maybe it was just a fluke with my particular camera. If you want to take the risk, it has pretty much the same IR as the over $200 Ordros I've tested. Keep in mind, all of these generic cameras have the built-in IR light on when in IR mode and it reduces the battery life drastically. Just something to be aware of.
The Ordro HDR V12 is just about the worst camera in low light, including IR mode, that I've ever used, so stay away from that one for sure.
There is camera I tested that had just about the best IR of any generic camcorder I've tested, but the listing is gone. It was branded Sauloo I think, but the particular model I bought is gone. I can find the exact same camera under other "brands" but it is $300 and it's not worth nearly that much.
Beyond that there isn't a lot I can say about specific models. The AZ50 has decent IR for a generic camcorder, but it's pretty expensive. The AC3 (under the many brands that sell it) has worse IR than the Z63 and it's much more expensive. The Z63 is available with an IR light for $130, so maybe give that one a shot and return it if it won't work for you? I wish I could say "Camera X is the one to get, it's cheap and good." I really wish I could say that. I have probably tried 10 or more generic cameras hoping I'd find the one that could be that. The Z63 was nearly an "OK" value at $85, but since the sound doesn't work on mine (internal or external mic), it just didn't make it.
I was about to get it but this video saved me😅 thank you!
omg thankyou so much a friend recomended i get an ordro but i thought better and i am glad i did now thanks again
I've got an Ordo sitting in my Amazon wishlist that's about to be deleted. I was originally planning to purchase video camera for ghost hunting and I need moderate infrared night vision, do you know of one that's not prohibitively expensive? It doesn't need to be 4K in night vision mode. I'd like 1080, but 720 for night vision is acceptable. It doesn't need to produce its own infrared light either because I can get separate infrared lighting.
What is your budget? Probably the ONLY thing that could make the generic camcorders a viable option in some cases is the IR mode. But I generally wouldn't spend more than $60-$150 in most cases, because the $300-$400 options really aren't that much better. And if you plan to use them for all recording, you will have to accept no optical zoom or autofocus (in most cases), no working stabilization on any I've ever seen, poor battery life, occasional glitches, often over sharpened video with slightly off colors, poor audio, odd framerates on some models, etc.
Depending on your budget, it might make more sense to either get a cheap camera just for IR and another camera or camcorder for non-IR use, or just get a better camcorder that has IR mode (like a Sony, or a Panasonic if you can find one).
I do have a video comparing a few different IR night vision options.
ruclips.net/video/gBLUG1f94m8/видео.html
@@bigtb1717 That video you linked is very helpful. I was looking at a $750 aud budget which is $550.15 usd, but seeing the night vision video I might have to save a little more and get the Sony. Even if it's very nearly twice as much as I wanted to spend the difference in video quality is too great to ignore, especially when using an external source of infrared light and I planned to have audio done through a separate microphone so audio quality isn't a big issue.
Not sure if you will be able to help but I'll shoot my shot. See I'm trying to branch out my content, just starting to expand, so my budget is a bit tight about $300 US. I found this Camera and I watched the video and I clearly see difference so i'm back to square one (kinda). So let me ask you this. The cannon sx620 you showed; 1. I'm looking to record in a bowling ally where for the most part it would be on a tripod, the lighting quality would be so so but constant. Would it fit the bill if all I was going for was a clear 1080p at 60 fps and the audio not being a major factor. 2. With a similar tri-pod set up I would like to stream with the same camera in different areas of the house or even the bowling ally would this work for that as well? Or if you would recommend a different camera at this price point for the previously mentioned stuff what might it be?
How are you looking to stream? Are you wanting a camera that can connect directly to a computer via USB or are can you use an HDMI capture device? Something like a Sony CX-405 wouldn't be all that great in the low-ish light of a bowling alley, but it would be okay for around $200-$230. But it cannot stream directly from the camera, as far as I'm aware. Sony makes a streaming app that works with some of their cameras, but I can't remember of the CX-405 works with it. The CX-405 can output clean video over HDMI though, and an HDMI to USB capture card would allow you to input video to a computer without issue.
@@bigtb1717 I would have a laptop with obs if that would be possible with the camera you mentioned. Also why would you recommend that over what you used in the video just curious? Because it seemed like the recording capabilities of the cannon seemed pretty good.
Simply because with the way the market is right now, the price of that Canon SX620 HS has gone up. New it's like $300 right now, which is a bit much if you really only care about video. A camcorder in the $200-$250 range would probably serve you better. That's all.
With the Sony CX-405 I mentioned you would need an HDMI capture device. That would allow you to send a 1080p feed from the Sony into OBS on your laptop.
@@bigtb1717 ahh I see that does make sense about the video mainly. The price (at least on Amazon) seemed about the same either way but I would prefer new to used so I'll keep it in mind.
@@bigtb1717 and yeah I assumed I would need the HDMI capture device just wanted to make sure I understood how it worked before purchasing. I appreciate the advice and help I'll probably look sony cx 405
Thank you sir,watching here in danao city phillippines
I'm trying to find a good camera to skate and film my friends do u know any good cameras I could use?
What budget do you have in mind? Are you looking for a camcorder or more of an action camera?
Thanks, I almost bought one. Have you tried them in low light environment?
I have. Some of them have IR "night vision." I have tested several in this capacity. I've also just used some of them in low light in general. They have two weaknesses. One is image noise and general detail loss. That is expected, and only a little worse than other cheap cameras like cheap point and shoot cameras, or the very cheapest, name brand camcorders. But the other major limitation they have is the maximum gain/ISO. There are times when a cheap point and shoot, cheap brand name camcorder, etc., will give a not great, but totally visible image in low light, and the generic/Ordro cameras will be recording a pure black image.
@@bigtb1717 Thank you for your reply.
Thank you I appreciate your review it stopped me buying crap 👍
Thanks for this! Saved me $500 bucks!
Hello sir. I am trying to buy a video camera to blog, shoot videos, take pictures, and I can only seem to find these garbage ones as you are showing and telling. They are on Ebay, Amazon, it's like there is no decent camera out there. I was wondering if you could direct me to a site where I could find a good camera. I am looking for something with WIFI, timer, 4K, the works, a bundle with it would be nice.
Appreciate your time. One other question. I don't really understand about the wifi, does this make it possible to shoot live video straight from the camera like using an iPhone? I am a lament in these things so.
Nio
I use B&H Photo for most of my camera equipment. If pictures are important, a mirrorless camera with good video capabilities would probably do well for you.
WiFi functionality will depend on the camera. Sometimes they can transmit a video feed, sometimes it just for controlling the camera remotely or transferring files. Just depends on the camera.
Thanks. I was about to get one on ebay.
Can you see if the odor 5k is good I like has a 3.5 screen they said has a gamble that has good stability can you check out this camera do a review in it please thank you
It sounds like you are talking about a camera I recently reviewed.
ruclips.net/video/2RcF73VcqRM/видео.html
If you are talking about something else, let me know.
I want to upgrade my webcam and use a camcorder for vlogging. i nearly bought the above camera...so thanks. what would you recommend, please?
What is your budget? What are you using now? Will your vlogging be a walking/out and about kind of thing, or will it be on a tripod?
@@bigtb1717 I use Iphone 12 pro max for video in and out. At moment using logitec webcam for on trainings want to improve quality of my training videos. So want to use as webcam. No more than £250 to spend
Which model webcam do you have? Just trying to get an idea of what will actually be a for-sure upgrade in quality. Nothing for 250 will beat your iPhone 12 Pro for video quality, but maybe it would be better than the webcam, depending on the model. I assume you are in the UK? From what I can find on sites over there, there isn't a whole lot available for 250.
Pls can someone hear help me out with the best camera to buy as an up coming comedian 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏,
I was thinking about looking for a camcorder
I wanted to buy one of these for recording skateboarding it doesnt have to be 4k or something but are they still worth it for 200€
In my opinion, not at all. The quality is poor, there is no stabilization and the company is dishonest. I'm not sure what the market is like where you are, but in the US, even cameras that cost far less offer better quality and features.
I did get one for christmas and i really need a new camera. Which one do you prefer
I suppose it will depend on your budget and what you primarily want to do with it. I generally tend to prefer Sony cameras, these days. But Panasonic, Fuji, Canon, Nikon and Olympus all make good stuff.
@@bigtb1717 thanks might look into sony
No problem. If you have any questions, I'll help if I can. Sometimes you can find good stuff used as well, but the market has been a bit sparse the last couple years.
I wish I could give this a super thumbs up!
Nice review👍🏻
Thank you for saving me from a bad purchase!
so i bought the ORDRO HDR-AC3, it was half off with a $30 coupon. i got it because i wanted a better webcam and so i can film for college. looks the same as the one in this video. i have a Canon Rebel T6 that, when at 1080p 30fps, doesnt look that much better, than the AC3 at 2k 30fps despite being 2x or 3x the price. the bit rate was 44k vs 14k which was prob the reason. The little difference on the two cameras have me wondering if they improved these cameras over the last 2 years. the footage you show is no where near what im getting. only thing similar is the audio and the menu being annoying. which is fine cuz i always use a stand alone microphone. The rebel also cant be charged and used at the same time, battery lasts like 20 minutes. So weird that mine looks so different than the one in this video
I'm glad it's working for you. I only want to help prevent people from being disappointed. Well, I'm also getting sick of the lies and made-up claims and specs from so many Chinese companies (not just with cameras).
In some situations, the video from the AC3 can look okay. Detail and image quality were the least of its issues, though there are artifacts from over sharpening, low dynamic range, and color issues at times, etc. I did review the AC3. It's probably the best, overall Ordro camera. Any I've tried that have autofocus have horrible issues with constant focus hunting and inaccuracy. Many have worse image quality than the AC3 and many have odd frame rate issues and other file compatibility problems that I didn't experience with the AC3. So at least there's that. But it still has straight-up lies in the ads, features that don't work, terrible audio, etc. Again, I'm genuinely glad you are satisfied with your purchase. But I still don't recommend them. I want companies' feet to be held to the fire when it comes to being honest.
The Rebel T6 is a 6+ year old DSLR. Many of the early video modes in cheaper DSLR cameras were fairly poor in terms of video quality and audio quality. Not to mention (as you alluded to) poor battery life in video, and often really short record limits of like five minutes because the sensor would overheat. On the flip side, I have a Canon camcorder that is much older than your Rebel T6 and it is superior to any Ordro I've tested. Not just image quality, which admittedly is only moderately better, but it's just so much nicer to use in every way (menus, zoom, autofocus, image stabilization, good audio, etc.). I purchased a Kodak Zi8 for $20 from eBay and I even preferred that to any Ordro I've tested.
Sorry if it feels like I'm attacking your camera. I'm just explaining my position and why I still wouldn't recommend Ordro cameras. Cheers!
What do you know about the Lincomtech 4K cam. Is it as bad as the one you just showed
I don't know much about it, but from what I can find it is likely a bit worse than what I showed in this video. It looks exactly like a lot of the other re-branded, generic cameras that are flooding the internet.
@@bigtb1717 what is a decent quality cam to vlog with that doesn’t cost to much. 3-400 range
There are some point and shoot cameras in that price range that may work for vlogging. The Canon HF R800 camcorder is around $200-$250 and could be a decent option with an external mic jack. The Sony CX-405 is a good, cheap camcorder as well. The internal audio on the CX-405 is pretty decent, but it doesn't have a mic input jack. Honestly, the DJI Osmo Action or a GoPro 7/8/9 would be MUCH better than any of the generic camcorders.
I Already purchased one. Wish i seen the video first.🙈
Thank you for your review. You saved me some money from buying junk.
Is there anything better at same price with night vision?????
Unfortunately, good, night vision, and cheap don't really go together. A lot of these generic camcorders (though not all) have an "IR" mode. I don't know that I'd really call it "night vision" because the sensors are generally such low sensitivity that I can literally see better with my naked eyes than these cameras can in "night vision" mode. However, they do allow you to use an IR flashlight rather than a visible light flashlight, if that's important to you. If you have no problem using a normal flashlight, then a normal camcorder and a normal flashlight will see better in the dark than these cameras with their "night vision." If it's just the IR look you are going for, then sure, these generic cameras will give you that, but you'd probably be best off getting one of the cheapest you can that has IR, rather than spending $200+, because the performance difference isn't very big.
For instance, the "Phasm Cam" has its share of problems, but for $180 or so it has as good of "night vision" as any $400 Ordro I've tried. In fact, one of the sub-$100 camcorders I tried had far better IR mode performance than a much more expensive camera I tried at the same time. Granted, neither of them were very good, but these types of camcorders are all over the place in terms of quality and it's hard to know exactly what you are getting until you try it.
I'm planning on getting a camcorder to just film dumb videos or for memories i'm also trying to get the vintage vibe. Do you have any suggestions on which camcorder I should get with the same or lower price as the ordro camcorder?
Ordro cameras vary in price quite a bit. What is your budget?
@@bigtb1717 $79 or lower
If that is your max, I'd start by looking for something used. Maybe a 3-5 year old model from Canon, Sony, JVC or Panasonic. Otherwise, you could just pick something from Amazon or eBay in your price range. At that price there isn't a huge difference. I've tested out a lot of the generic camcorders (I include Ordro among these) and there really isn't a huge difference. Some seem a bit better than others, but they all have quirks and annoyances. Just make sure you get it from somewhere with a good return policy and test it before the end of the return period. I've had some pretty annoying issues with a few of them.
Are you in the US?
@@bigtb1717 no😅 that's my problem
Is a camcorder good to do a youtube channel? Im a pretty basic person want to do some Christian talks.
Awesome video thanks for saving me some cash, I’m having trouble finding the right camcorder, I’m a paranormal investigator so night vision and sound quality is very important, I can’t find a good branded night vision camcorder anywhere, can you recommend a few for me please? It would be greatly appreciated! 🤘🏻
Happy to help. In terms of night vision, the only name-brand I know of off-hand that still puts night vision in their cameras is Sony, but Panasonic might as well. Off hand, Sony AX53 and AX700 both have IR NightShot, but neither are particularly inexpensive, and the AX700 is relatively expensive, though it is a fantastic video camera. Do you have a budget in mind?
One thing to be aware of, many cameras will advertise a "night" mode, but this is often just a high sensitivity mode. Honestly, that will often give fairly bright images in low light, but it isn't necessarily IR mode. So if you actually need IR mode, look hard into the specs to be sure before picking something.
Looks like there are a couple Panasonic models that have IR Night Mode. Some of them list night mode color, which is just the high sensitivity mode I mentioned. But a few also list night mode IR.
bigtb1717 thank you very much! That’s very helpful, the ax53 looks like a camera I could use but it’s quite a bit out of my budget, I was looking around the $250/$300 area, a lot of them are confusing they say night vision but it’s actually not, thank you for the help 🤘🏻
It might be worth keeping an eye out for a used Sony camcorder with Nightshot. A lot of the older Sony camcorders came with the IR Nightshot mode. Obviously there are risks to buying used and some of the older stuff will have drawbacks due to being older tech, but some of them are available fairly cheap.
I was considering the ORDRO HDR-AC3 for £199 on Amazon UK, I'm guessing this price range this isn't the best camera I could get for making youtube videos??
I would say not. I'm not super familiar with the UK market and pricing, but I would imagine you could get something much better for the money. As I show in this video, two inexpensive point and shoot cameras take better video.
How long this canon and fuji camera recording video? Cause i ihave dslr camera only recording video in 20 minutes
They both have limits. I think the Canon is 29 minutes or so. I can't remember what the limit is on the Fuji.
The Ordros I've tested stop recording after 30-35 minutes as well. They do automatically start recording again, but they lose a few seconds (maybe five or six), so the clips cannot be edited back together seamlessly.
@@bigtb1717 ok