OMG, game changer! For 30 years I've had my hand as close to the reel as possible thinking I was taking advantage of the extra rod length. WRONG! When fishing out of my float tube this weekend, choked up and easily doubled the length of my cast! THANK YOU FOR THAT TIP!
Fantastic tip! I really think this has been holding me back for well over 15 years. I can cast decent but always felt like I was missing something because I always feel too rigid. Can’t wait to get practicing! Thank you!
Thank you for this! Every one of your videos I’ve watched has been great, but this one made it all click for me! I am a musician and not only did this make perfect sense, it also helps me realize why I love fly fishing so much, even though I’ve only been doing it for a couple weeks!
Just picked up the fly rod a few months ago, and out of all the videos, this concept of the 4/4 measure finally clicks with me lol Music background as well and it just never occurred to me how the movements apply. Can't wait to dip out of work early on Friday and hit the river with this new concept in mind. Thanks!!
Great video. I’ve been doing this counting on the back cast and on the forward cast for years; this is mainly because I can’t look behind me on the back cast because of stiff neck issues. So, given an amount of fly line that I wish to cast I’ve learnt the tempo of the 1-2-3-4 count that I need to do in order to make a successful cast. In particular, I use a 30ft mark on the fly line that is at the rod tip when I start my back cast, and so when I cast (using the ‘correct’ 1-2-3-4 tempo) 2 variables have been removed so that I can achieve almost a repeatable cast ever time. Turning one’s head during the back cast is probably the better technique but in my case, being musical, counting is just as good.
So short casts are allegro, longer casts are moderato, and really long casts are adagio, if I remember my musical training from many decades ago correctly. Keep the good stuff coming.
The main reason I don't play a musical instrument is I can't keep a beat. Now, I see that's also why I don't cast so good. Not all God's chillun got rhythm.
I absolutely love this! I’ve been teaching my 5 and 8 year old yo cast and the hardest thing for them to understand is the timing. This will help tremendously. Thank you for this.
Further to my comment on how I count while casting, I’d like to add to what was said about ‘choking up’ on the grip. In real tennis (NOT lawn tennis) or court tennis as it’s called in the USA, players will often ‘choke up’ on their racket grip when serving the ball. Serving mostly requires a delicate stroke of the ball and ‘choking up’ allows for more control of the racket and a better feel. Notice in squash, also, with Paul Coll (top 5 in the world) of New Zealand, he chokes up on this racket during serving and during rallies because he gets more control. Choking up even by an inch or slightly can give you more control. Fly casting is not like javelin throwing or baseball pitching but like serving the ball as mentioned above.
I’m a bit confused as to how you aren’t creating a wide loop on your forward cast. When you drop the rod tip on the back cast, don’t you by default create a wide arc on the forward cast?
Thanks for watching. Please send your questions directly to Brian at the shop and he'll get right back to you. E-mail him or call him. He doesn't monitor the comments here but of course works in the shop every day.
The line straightening out almost completely behind. There are 20 previous episodes in this series that get into those aspects and cover these ideas as well. Check those out and it should help. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for watching. Please send any and all questions directly to Brian at the shop. You can send him an e-mail or give him a call. He's always happy to help but doesn't monitor comments here.
I love your videos but you talk about a stop on the forward/down cast, but rarely if ever actually stop the rod. Watching as intently as I can... no stop on the forward/down cast?
The stop is there, but he then immediately keeps it moving downward. Stop, drop, stop, drop. Feel free to call him or e-mail him at the shop if any further questions. He's always available to help and answer questions.
Thanks for being here. You'd have to contact Brian directly though as he doesn't monitor the comments here and we don't know the answers to your questions. You can e-mail him or call him at the shop. He's always happy to chat.
Your channel got me from beginner to catching my first River Rainbow Trout in the UK.... so thank you all....
Thanks so much for watching.
OMG, game changer! For 30 years I've had my hand as close to the reel as possible thinking I was taking advantage of the extra rod length. WRONG! When fishing out of my float tube this weekend, choked up and easily doubled the length of my cast! THANK YOU FOR THAT TIP!
It's wildly important and possibly the most overlooked "important thing" in fly casting. Glad that it helped you out!!!!!
Great video. I have been fly fishing for over 20 years and never really thought about a fly relating to a 4-4 beat. Makes total sense.
Thanks for watching.
I used 4-4 to learn to double haul. Also watching yalls videos helped as always.
Thanks for watching!
I would love to see one about casting around obstacles like trees.
Please stay tuned.
Yes! Please.
Agreed
I love the video of Brian and Flip jamming out on the dock. Awesome! I've learned so much from this channel, thanks!
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Fantastic tip! I really think this has been holding me back for well over 15 years. I can cast decent but always felt like I was missing something because I always feel too rigid. Can’t wait to get practicing! Thank you!
Thanks for watching!
Thank you, I've watch many casting videos and this has, by far, helped me more than any others.
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Thanks Brian and MRO outfitters for creating quality content! Really helps us newbies
Thanks for watching and please stay tuned!
@@Madriveroutfitters I'm exited for future uploads!!
@@Tree-vis As long as folks keep supporting the shop, we’ll keep them coming!!!
Thank you for this! Every one of your videos I’ve watched has been great, but this one made it all click for me! I am a musician and not only did this make perfect sense, it also helps me realize why I love fly fishing so much, even though I’ve only been doing it for a couple weeks!
Thanks for watching and happy to help!!!
Just picked up the fly rod a few months ago, and out of all the videos, this concept of the 4/4 measure finally clicks with me lol Music background as well and it just never occurred to me how the movements apply. Can't wait to dip out of work early on Friday and hit the river with this new concept in mind. Thanks!!
Thanks for watching and super happy to help.
Great video. I’ve been doing this counting on the back cast and on the forward cast for years; this is mainly because I can’t look behind me on the back cast because of stiff neck issues. So, given an amount of fly line that I wish to cast I’ve learnt the tempo of the 1-2-3-4 count that I need to do in order to make a successful cast. In particular, I use a 30ft mark on the fly line that is at the rod tip when I start my back cast, and so when I cast (using the ‘correct’ 1-2-3-4 tempo) 2 variables have been removed so that I can achieve almost a repeatable cast ever time. Turning one’s head during the back cast is probably the better technique but in my case, being musical, counting is just as good.
@@laytonjames9741 Thanks for watching!
So short casts are allegro, longer casts are moderato, and really long casts are adagio, if I remember my musical training from many decades ago correctly. Keep the good stuff coming.
Good work and good memory!!! Thanks for being here.
I call the 4x4 method the Lawrence Welk method. Nice video Brian.
Thanks for watching. Not too many people would get that one these days.
I’m a musician and as soon as you said 4/4 time I got it. Brilliant analogy.
Thanks for watching.
Great videos as always guys, thank you.
Thanks for watching.
Very helpful. The 4/4 especially. Thanks.
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Watching from the uk great video thank you🎣
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Excellent instruction and advice
Appreciate you being here.
Thank you so much for this information
Thanks for watching.
You guys are awesome. Thanks for the great videos. Love mad river outfitters.
Thanks for watching.
Really really love this! I can totally how this will all be very helpful while practicing 👍🙏🤘
Looking forward to watchin Jim Green meow
Thanks for watching. The Jim Green video is legendary and he was years ahead of the rest at the time.
The main reason I don't play a musical instrument is I can't keep a beat. Now, I see that's also why I don't cast so good. Not all God's chillun got rhythm.
Just count to 4…..evenly. Thanks for watching.
Excellent training....thank you
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Super helpful, now to get out and practice!
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Have not had a fly rod out since my injury last year. Ready to get it out again and do some fly fishing.
Good luck and have fun!
Great analogy. I dig it.
Thanks for watching.
Really good tutorial:) thanks!
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Great video. Exactley what I needed. Thank you very much
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Great video and tips!
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I absolutely love this! I’ve been teaching my 5 and 8 year old yo cast and the hardest thing for them to understand is the timing. This will help tremendously. Thank you for this.
Thanks for being here and happy to help.
Further to my comment on how I count while casting, I’d like to add to what was said about ‘choking up’ on the grip. In real tennis (NOT lawn tennis) or court tennis as it’s called in the USA, players will often ‘choke up’ on their racket grip when serving the ball. Serving mostly requires a delicate stroke of the ball and ‘choking up’ allows for more control of the racket and a better feel. Notice in squash, also, with Paul Coll (top 5 in the world) of New Zealand, he chokes up on this racket during serving and during rallies because he gets more control. Choking up even by an inch or slightly can give you more control. Fly casting is not like javelin throwing or baseball pitching but like serving the ball as mentioned above.
@@laytonjames9741 Thanks for being here!
Thanks Brian
Thanks for watching.
I’m a bit confused as to how you aren’t creating a wide loop on your forward cast. When you drop the rod tip on the back cast, don’t you by default create a wide arc on the forward cast?
Thanks for watching. Please send your questions directly to Brian at the shop and he'll get right back to you. E-mail him or call him. He doesn't monitor the comments here but of course works in the shop every day.
I used to fly cast on the 2nd floor now I can cast on the third floor!!! Bring me to the next level!!!
Just keep learning and practicing!
Where in Florida? I would have loved to attend the class.
He and Flip are teaching schools at Flip’s house in Mims. www.madriveroutfitters.com/p-8203-flip-pallot-weekend-school.aspx
@@Madriveroutfitters
Sweet next if I'm not working I'll try to do that. Thanks for the response.
What do you look for that tells you to start the forward motion?
The line straightening out almost completely behind. There are 20 previous episodes in this series that get into those aspects and cover these ideas as well. Check those out and it should help. Thanks for watching.
Is this drift, only you're opening your wrist instead of raising the rod?
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thank you for sharing with is
Thanks for watching!
What if you’re fishing “the hang”? Hard to have your cast start below the waist in that case. Just a thought.
Don't waste anything. Start with the rod tip low. Always.
Wow now I get it - being a musician :-)
Appreciate you being here.
When is your next class?
Here you go:
www.madriveroutfitters.com/s-47-fly-fishing-education.aspx
I own all of these bad habits and spent 20 minutes last night in my back yard trying to slowly correct them
Thanks for watching and keep practicing!
Have you gotten tennis elbow from fishing so much? My dad did
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This video finally helped me click today
Happy to help and thanks for watching.
I can’t stop looking at the handle on that reel. What in the world is that!?
Here you go:
ruclips.net/video/n-_KlRKrU7g/видео.html
I am if euro nymphing reminds me of Tenkara or vis-a-versa.
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I love your videos but you talk about a stop on the forward/down cast, but rarely if ever actually stop the rod. Watching as intently as I can... no stop on the forward/down cast?
The stop is there, but he then immediately keeps it moving downward. Stop, drop, stop, drop. Feel free to call him or e-mail him at the shop if any further questions. He's always available to help and answer questions.
Brian! Where did you study jazz guitar and why are you teaching people to clap on 1 & 3? Django hears you when you do this. He'll never rest.
Thanks for being here. You'd have to contact Brian directly though as he doesn't monitor the comments here and we don't know the answers to your questions. You can e-mail him or call him at the shop. He's always happy to chat.
Don't be half cast.
Do not! Better to make a "whole" fly cast.