The problem was firing trotz and keeping Lou for way too long. Just three years ago, they were one shorthanded goal with too many men on the ice to beating the Lightning and heading to the Stanley Cup. From that time, we kept our defensive core, which was successful under Trotz’s style, but got rid of Trotz. While we gained some offense with Horvat and Duclair, we also lost some key pieces since 2020. We traded Devon Toews who was our best offensive defensemen and lost Eberle in the expansion draft, as Lou protected Josh Bailey instead. If we kept these key players, instead of locking up Mayfield, we would be much more successful. In those great playoff runs, Dobson was not the player he is today. While we still are competitive every year to to our grindiness and hardcore fans, it can only take us so far. If we want to truly rebuild, keep our YOUNG talent, protect Sorokin, and go out and get a superstar like u said. It all starts with getting rid of the man who put us in this position, Lou
Honestly the problem is blowing leads in the third period. #1 thing. If we keep those leads we easily make the playoffs last season instead of squeaking in. And we've already had several this season.
I actually thought before getting injured, pelech and pulock were bright spots in how they played defensively. Romanov is a super underrated piece that isn't talked about enough, and losing him sucked. The issue is a lack of depth. I think the right move this year is to retool around barzal, bo, and dobson, while they are in their prime. Luck is certainly a factor, but nelson and palmieri have to be moved this year while their value is still high. Both players could net at least a 1st round and maybe more. Nelson has a better track record but Palmieri has just been fantastic this year. Tsyplakov has been fantastic and could be in the calder conversations with his offensive iq. Loosing barzal sucks because he is easily the biggest play driver on this team, and duclair in his brief stint looked fantastic in terms of underlying analytics. The only brightspot in this teams future right now seems to be Cole Eiserman (who looks fantastic at BU), however I am not sure if he will start in the NHL or ahl next year. This is the worst year possible to be mediocre with such a weak draft class outside of the top 7 guys. If they don't have a dop 7 pick and miss the playoffs its worst case scenario. They either have to be insanely bad this year or have a miraculous comeback and get into the playoffs. Regardless of the outcome they need to sell their pending ufa's. This team has really good pieces in their primes, but they don't have another true superstar to support Barzal. I am high on the core, however they have to move off of a lot of the supporting cast and replenish it with youth. Holmstrom has had flashes of promise however seems to be more and more of a middle six guy, and as much as I love Wahlstrom, I think the best thing for his development would be a no pressure situation. I am leaning towards tanking the season for the long island native, James Hagens, letting wahlstrom, holmstrom, and dobson just have fun and come back swinging with cole eiserman and their 2025 first round pick next year.
there's 15 other teams in the conference. everyone cant stay where they are forever. your window of opporunity doesn't stay open forever, others will come to close it.
Someone they recently introduced is Isaiah George who I feel is a great new addition. He’s 20 years old and his only real downside is his inexperience leading to some errors. But what would be good to see is basically a bunch of Isaiah George like people on the team who sure maybe they’re too inexperienced to win this season, but they can definitely be beaten into a star line up given some time in the NHL. I’d rather see that and watch them grow into star players than was the islanders have now which just looks to be a slowly deteriorating line up, can’t rely on sorokin forever despite how much I love chanting “We Love SOROKIN” at the games
Sorokin is playing some incredible goaltending and it's still not enough to lift this core. If you are an Isles fan it's really all about whether or not you want the team to fully go all in with this core and make serious identity altering trades or just give in and start a rebuild
Just a few years ago they got close. Their crash line intimidated and wore down their opponents. Lou did not change with the times. Rangers may not make playoffs, rest assured they will trade the whole team and start over. Get the hint OWNERS. Would have made Trotz GM. Nash tough season but future is bright. Isles unique. History. Small town atmosphere producing good hockey players like Fox and McAvoy…
Lou has definitely not put this team in the best position possible. Not sure if it’s just because players don’t want to play there if if the team is just unwilling to pay
one word-LOUZER. This team can't improve and is handcuffed by no prospects no cap room. SELL ,SELL, SELL. And 30 keeps isles from being a lottery team. Lots of great forwards available next two drafts. Now would be the time to do it except the stubborn fossil thinks this roster is a contender which means bye bye first at tdl.
@@jimmyhockey dude we need a rebuild we have tried this retool nonsense for a while hasnt worked now it blew in our face this year we have no real hope for the future until we get new ownership and management
The islanders almost made it to the cup finals a few years ago. Since then they have basically kept that same team together. They are older, slower, have gone through injuries and are less skilled. The power play and penalty kill are the WORST in the league. Can’t go anywhere with these stats. We have nothing great at the AHL level. Even if there is someone at the AHL level they never bring them up ALA George. We can’t resign Nelson and Palmeri in the mid 30’s…..We need to suffer some pain with moves to be a much better team down the road. Now does ownership do the right thing or do they only care about crawling into the playoffs……..
they fired trotz a little too soon. They could've waited at least another year or two to pull the plug if they really had to. Im not an isles fan but yah their downfall has been interesting to say the least
@@jimmyhockey yah i mean i knew his leash was a bit short but they could've waited maybe another year or year and a half or 2 years to pull the trigger if they really had to
This has been their problem for years, lack of scoring. So what does Lou do he signs long term defense men. Brings back martin, ( who should retire). Gets a player who has played on 6 teams in 7 years. The problem is our GM, the game has passed him by...
You Have to think about how hard a retool/rebuild would be these contracts on a lot of. These players are borderline untradable. No one is taking Pelech who has been injured four out of the last five years or Mayfield Who’s locked up till he’s 37 years old even though right now in his prime he is barely a third pair defenseman or Engval whose effort on the ice was so bad he started the season in Bridgeport who we have locked up on a seven year $3 million contract. I think the better route is just too try and improve where you can prolong mediocrity and barely scratching the playoffs for as long as you can and then tear it all down except for key pieces like Barzal Horvat, Duclair, Dobson, Romanov and Sorokin. (I wouldn’t mind trading Dobson. He has been embarrassing defensively)
It will though. These players you listed are good but not great. What this will get you is a ceiling of a first round playoff exit, which puts you in the middle of the league and directionless
The problem was firing trotz and keeping Lou for way too long. Just three years ago, they were one shorthanded goal with too many men on the ice to beating the Lightning and heading to the Stanley Cup. From that time, we kept our defensive core, which was successful under Trotz’s style, but got rid of Trotz. While we gained some offense with Horvat and Duclair, we also lost some key pieces since 2020. We traded Devon Toews who was our best offensive defensemen and lost Eberle in the expansion draft, as Lou protected Josh Bailey instead. If we kept these key players, instead of locking up Mayfield, we would be much more successful. In those great playoff runs, Dobson was not the player he is today. While we still are competitive every year to to our grindiness and hardcore fans, it can only take us so far. If we want to truly rebuild, keep our YOUNG talent, protect Sorokin, and go out and get a superstar like u said. It all starts with getting rid of the man who put us in this position, Lou
How are they gonna magically get a superstar?
@@edited1325 Probably only by drafting one.
Those runs to the conference finals really screwed them for the medium term.
They mercy fired Trotz
Trotz was done as a coach. He was exhausted and wanted a management job which is what he got.
Honestly the problem is blowing leads in the third period. #1 thing. If we keep those leads we easily make the playoffs last season instead of squeaking in. And we've already had several this season.
Yeah it’s a bad habit for sure. Not ideal either when Sorokin is playing so well
I actually thought before getting injured, pelech and pulock were bright spots in how they played defensively. Romanov is a super underrated piece that isn't talked about enough, and losing him sucked. The issue is a lack of depth. I think the right move this year is to retool around barzal, bo, and dobson, while they are in their prime. Luck is certainly a factor, but nelson and palmieri have to be moved this year while their value is still high. Both players could net at least a 1st round and maybe more. Nelson has a better track record but Palmieri has just been fantastic this year. Tsyplakov has been fantastic and could be in the calder conversations with his offensive iq. Loosing barzal sucks because he is easily the biggest play driver on this team, and duclair in his brief stint looked fantastic in terms of underlying analytics. The only brightspot in this teams future right now seems to be Cole Eiserman (who looks fantastic at BU), however I am not sure if he will start in the NHL or ahl next year. This is the worst year possible to be mediocre with such a weak draft class outside of the top 7 guys. If they don't have a dop 7 pick and miss the playoffs its worst case scenario. They either have to be insanely bad this year or have a miraculous comeback and get into the playoffs. Regardless of the outcome they need to sell their pending ufa's. This team has really good pieces in their primes, but they don't have another true superstar to support Barzal. I am high on the core, however they have to move off of a lot of the supporting cast and replenish it with youth. Holmstrom has had flashes of promise however seems to be more and more of a middle six guy, and as much as I love Wahlstrom, I think the best thing for his development would be a no pressure situation. I am leaning towards tanking the season for the long island native, James Hagens, letting wahlstrom, holmstrom, and dobson just have fun and come back swinging with cole eiserman and their 2025 first round pick next year.
there's 15 other teams in the conference. everyone cant stay where they are forever.
your window of opporunity doesn't stay open forever, others will come to close it.
Someone they recently introduced is Isaiah George who I feel is a great new addition. He’s 20 years old and his only real downside is his inexperience leading to some errors. But what would be good to see is basically a bunch of Isaiah George like people on the team who sure maybe they’re too inexperienced to win this season, but they can definitely be beaten into a star line up given some time in the NHL. I’d rather see that and watch them grow into star players than was the islanders have now which just looks to be a slowly deteriorating line up, can’t rely on sorokin forever despite how much I love chanting “We Love SOROKIN” at the games
Sorokin is playing some incredible goaltending and it's still not enough to lift this core. If you are an Isles fan it's really all about whether or not you want the team to fully go all in with this core and make serious identity altering trades or just give in and start a rebuild
Just a few years ago they got close. Their crash line intimidated and wore down their opponents. Lou did not change with the times. Rangers may not make playoffs, rest assured they will trade the whole team and start over. Get the hint OWNERS. Would have made Trotz GM. Nash tough season but future is bright. Isles unique. History. Small town atmosphere producing good hockey players like Fox and McAvoy…
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Lou Lamoriello is a major problem
Lou has definitely not put this team in the best position possible. Not sure if it’s just because players don’t want to play there if if the team is just unwilling to pay
Spot On Jimmy! Great analysis
Thanks man appreciate it!
one word-LOUZER. This team can't improve and is handcuffed by no prospects no cap room. SELL ,SELL, SELL. And 30 keeps isles from being a lottery team. Lots of great forwards available next two drafts. Now would be the time to do it except the stubborn fossil thinks this roster is a contender which means bye bye first at tdl.
It’s definitely a difficult situation. If they miss playoffs there is a chance the team starts moving their stars
@@jimmyhockey dude we need a rebuild we have tried this retool nonsense for a while hasnt worked now it blew in our face this year we have no real hope for the future until we get new ownership and management
The islanders almost made it to the cup finals a few years ago. Since then they have basically kept that same team together. They are older, slower, have gone through injuries and are less skilled. The power play and penalty kill are the WORST in the league. Can’t go anywhere with these stats. We have nothing great at the AHL level. Even if there is someone at the AHL level they never bring them up ALA George. We can’t resign Nelson and Palmeri in the mid 30’s…..We need to suffer some pain with moves to be a much better team down the road. Now does ownership do the right thing or do they only care about crawling into the playoffs……..
they fired trotz a little too soon. They could've waited at least another year or two to pull the plug if they really had to. Im not an isles fan but yah their downfall has been interesting to say the least
I agree. Trotz was getting the best out of this group. Think they let him go a bit to early
@@jimmyhockey yah i mean i knew his leash was a bit short but they could've waited maybe another year or year and a half or 2 years to pull the trigger if they really had to
This has been their problem for years, lack of scoring. So what does Lou do he signs long term defense men. Brings back martin, ( who should retire). Gets a player who has played on 6 teams in 7 years. The problem is our GM, the game has passed him by...
Sorry Jimmy for the long comment, love your videos, LGI
No worries sometimes ya gotta rant, thanks for watching the videos 🙏🏻
You Have to think about how hard a retool/rebuild would be these contracts on a lot of. These players are borderline untradable. No one is taking Pelech who has been injured four out of the last five years or Mayfield Who’s locked up till he’s 37 years old even though right now in his prime he is barely a third pair defenseman or Engval whose effort on the ice was so bad he started the season in Bridgeport who we have locked up on a seven year $3 million contract. I think the better route is just too try and improve where you can prolong mediocrity and barely scratching the playoffs for as long as you can and then tear it all down except for key pieces like Barzal Horvat, Duclair, Dobson, Romanov and Sorokin. (I wouldn’t mind trading Dobson. He has been embarrassing defensively)
Isles have so many good players like Horv, Brock, Anders, Palm. Missing Barz should not hurt them that bad.
It will though. These players you listed are good but not great. What this will get you is a ceiling of a first round playoff exit, which puts you in the middle of the league and directionless
Will Dobson available for sell?😅
be serious
Probably not, young defensemen with his skill are tough to come by
@@jimmyhockey maybe, Hronek is a special case and not in the market until last minute
Idk what happened man.
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Brutal Lou should retire ASAP. Enjoy life Lou ❤
Ahh the good ol team the ruined Taveras
Tavares was a beauty with the NYI would’ve been interesting had he resigned, the team may have been a lot more competitive
@jimmyhockey absolutely carried that team, I just wish they were able to get some good players to go along and add some depth