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Mind-Bending Power from the 2020 Ford Super Duty Diesel! Let's Dyno It Against an Old 2019 & Compare
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Thanks y’all! Can’t wait to see what the 2020 7.3 can do!
Well looking at history it'll be reliable, but not fuel efficient. Matter of fact itll be getting about half the mileage the 6.7 powerstroke does
The Puppet Of Everything if the gasser makes same hp it will cost 30% more in fuel.
The 2020 7.3 is a gas motor and it doesn't make too much more hp or tq than the previous 6.2. You could probably get a pretty good idea of the trucks' capability by looking at a 2015 F250/350. I don't really understand why someone would opt for such a large gas motor instead of a diesel. A neighbor had a 6.2 in a 250 and he towed ~40' 5th wheel with it and it didn't do bad but not great, terrible gas mileage while towing. My in laws have 2017 350 diesel that they tow a similar 5th with and they had no problems towing through Colorado and Wyoming and got better fuel mileage. Neighbor down the street now has a diesel 350 dually.
Make it happen ASAP!
@@stevenf6885 because new diesels are more expensive and have a ton of garbage emissions systems that fail. And the gas engine is more than capable. It's not like you're getting 40mpg with the diesel. Not worth the headache.
I know 5 star loves you posting these videos for advertising. But these 5 star videos are fun and I enjoy them. It also shows you what these things can do for not a lot of money.
@James Marquis it's not 80,000. the Stx runs you about 56k and if you're looking for numbers and value the Stx is the way to go. They really are not that expensive compared to what they can do. And that price is with the Fx4 package!
A 4x4 f350 I want with a 7.3 is 49k msrp
James Marquis he’s talking about aftermarket money damn 🙄
Kenneth Barbee thank you for understanding what I was talking about.
For us, is a lot of money. And I’m not a fan all that thin aluminum and emissions crap. These are not going to last as long as past pickups lol
Wow
Great review and I did not realize the power that the 2020 puts out.
My neighbor has a super duty and he's happy with the power. Now I believe him because I thought it was a bunch of bullcrap. Man I'm wrong again.😁
Damn. They are getting real close to what my old freightliner put out back in the 90s. It had a 430 N14 cummins. Rated at 430 hp and 1650 tq. I think peak tq started a 1300 and carried thru 2000 before any effective drop off. I dont remember where peak hp was. Crazy numbers for a pickup.
Might be more powerful, but won’t last anywhere near as long as a Cummins and other past pickups lol. Thin aluminum and emission crap isn’t attractive to me either.
My Paccar Peterbilt only has 660 torque and 380 hp. It's a baby compared to the competition now!
@Mr Anonymous how much do you tow with it? Every tune truck that I've ever driven unless it's been a dedicated truck built for extreme durability (tractor pull daily driver) has entered limp home mode after about 5 to 10 minutes at full throttle with a 15k load on the back.
@Warren ya was a buddies 6.0. towed up what become the Ike gauntlet. Was hauling a connex that they decided to loadup. Literally a brick wall.
he had his gauges in his gauge pod set up to flash red when it was within 25% of the danger zone and then turn full red at 10% to danger zone. Nothing ever flashed just a sudden limp condition, I would assume fuel, but the pressure never dropped. it was a 6.0 so it's not really the best comparison but I've had similar problems when towing with Duramax is as well.
One of my friends has a Cummins I think a 3rd gen ram he is always tweaking it. He build with the philosophy of fast but durable. He regularly does sled pulls with it off roads it and tows with it. He had them Dyno tune it airing on the side of reliability. Was pushing 50psi up the Ike the whole way, then the trans lost some sort of signal shifted up and then immediately back down while under full boost. Made it all the way to Kansas like that with the trailer drop the trailer made it to Tennessee. he actually thanked me for finding the weak link then threw a firepunk transmission in it and hasn't looked back since.
truly an apples-to-oranges comparison though his ram easily has 40k underneath that hood.
My stock 8.1 didn't have a problem at 20kGCW up Ike. Held 45mph like a champ. (Oversized tires on stock gearing kept pulling her out of her torque band in 2nd once it really started to climb.)
@Mr Anonymous yeah I have no problem at all with diesel trucks but my biggest problem is when somebody goes out and throws a 200 or 350 horse tune on it and then tries to tow. if your only concern was performance when towing you have to do all of the supporting modifications and then you can try to run a hot tune.
As financially irresponsible as it would be I love my 8.1 gasser. I keep reminding myself I don't need a raylar 540ci stage 1 for $13k.....but 575hp 640LB-FT sounds so delicious.
I was previously seriously considering it but my limitations going to be my gcwr which I've done with this truck and it did just fine. So it's hard to rationalize the additional performance.
Now this is an awesome video! Thanks for bringing us such detail! Love me some TFL.
Same back JD! Hope to see you soon!
Get a room. Tfl just said the axle and trans ratios are different. So obviously the values at the wheels are different and cant be compared.
This video told us nothing other than tfl cant do math.
hey JD Big Truck Big RV good to see you over here. I follow you as well
They know we wanna see 7.3 numbers NOW🤣
@mtrujillo1973 go to hell😈
@mtrujillo1973 no your going pal
Always best to run the transmission in 1-1 on a chassis dyno, but since the 2019 6 speed didn't have 1-1 they ran it in 5th at .85-1, makes sense. Since the test goal was to compare 2019 truck performance to 2020 truck performance it would have been interesting to do a second set of runs on the 2020 in 8th gear (also .85-1) to see if that dropped the HP. Like others are saying the 2020 in 1-1 should probably be corrected with a lower loss factor (10-15%), but the 2019 in .85-1 may be more like 15-20%. That 10 speed will also help improve performance on the road over the 6 speed, locking up the torque converter earlier and keeping the engine higher on the HP curve.
Won't be able to run that high they are limited to 95. Also the driveshaft speeds become very alarming if they remove the limiter.
These guys are gonna put motor trend out of business, and I hope they do.
@Evil often disguises itself in a cloak of virtue Absolutely, I'm glad I'm not the only one that notices. Also, your screen name is really cool.👍
Hahahahaha
Evil often disguises itself in a cloak of virtue
They literally just bought a ford tho! And ford supplied them 2 2020 super duties
Evil often disguises itself in a cloak of virtue Shoot! did I miss the memo? Because No manufacturer pays us anything. We have never and will never accept manufacturer payment. Who’s paying You??
I have been GM trucks and cars even since 2005 area. These Ford numbers are just like Holy Cow!!!!! I might have to get rid of my Chevy bowtie belt buckle for a new Ford oval.
So that's 535hp and 1,115lbft of torque with a 15% correction this trucks already amazing now their going to turn it into a monster I can't wait to see this.
For the 2020 the stated average HP with a 15% correction would be 551.77 or 552 HP and 972 torque would be 1,143.53 or 1,144 lb ft.
I'm impressed by the lack of driveline loss in the 2020 Super Duty. It is astounding the numbers this engine can produce... just think! 25 years ago, the first-gen PowerStroke produced 210hp and 425lb-ft of torque. How far we've come!
(Hp and torque numbers cited from MotorWeek's retro-review video, "Dually Shootout.")
There has to be more drive line loss than these number show so my guess is they are under rating it a bit too.
I know right I still have my 97 F-350 with my 7.3 and a 5 speed.
Diesel glory days..get yours before Greta bans them all!
Lol those are crank figures. More like 100hp and 300ft lbs
Yeah !!! I was there that day getting my 5.0 tuned by the magicians at 5star. Glad to have met you Andre 😁
Good video once again! I can't wait to see these trucks go up the hill!
Yeah, towing will separate the men from the boys.
It's always good to know the 'truth' about advertised values, isn't it?
Now, I'm looking forward to hear the 'news' about the new gasoline powered engine/transmission.
I 'agree' and want to 'see' the numbers for the big gas engine
@@georgewashington938 Hopefully Andre get's this video up soon,..even if I am NOT in the market for a larger truck I find these tests interesting.
@@regsparkes6507 Me 'too'
‘Haha’
@@georgewashington938 352hp 383LB-FT to the ground.
I just find it humorous reading some of the comments. Andrew and the guys are doing a great job. We who are over 40 and 50 can remember that back in the day....not long ago in the 70s and 80s and most the 90s, we bought trucks 1500s, f150s, 3/4 tons, most all had a has motor, we didnt have tow ratings like today, didn't have the over hyped stickersnon the door etc. Etc. We hooked up whatever cattle trailer or camper we had or wanted and we pulled on down the road. No computer to remind us what bad gas mileage we were getting, no man ever telling you at the gas station that you shouldnt be pulling any certain rig unless he saw your front tires off the ground lol. We have become a society of numbers junkies. I bought an f150 crew with the 5.0 in 2015. I have 98000 miles on it now. I pull a 16 foot enclosed trailer EVERY day that weighs 9000 to 11000 pounds depending on the day and I pull a 29' camper every other weekend 120 miles. Have hauled diesel 1 tons in a flatbed and pull an equipment trailer with a 8000 pound bobcat a few times a week about 60 to 80 miles. That's normal and its something up until the past 5 or 10 years that was normal for most working men. I've done the same exact weekly run for 30 years with 1500s, 6.5 non turbo 2500s, 7.3 f250 and tk be honest the f150 5.0 does it better than any ever did and I dont hesitate to actually work my truck. When it comes to having to have the latest and greatest I think some take it too far. Use common sense. Stay in budget. Work the truck.
Meant Andre...damn spell checker
I really like the outside style of the 2019 over the 2020, but those internals...🤯
This new 6.7L engine is a beast! I can't wait to get my hands on one and see what they do when tuned! PS: anything past a 1:1 ratio is consider "over driven" because the output is higher than the input, hence the term "overdrive" so even 8th gear is considered overdrive!
Those are some good numbers, can’t wait to see the 2020 Powerstroke on the IKE!!!
I've been on enough dynos to know their correction factor is wrong. I've seen tuners do this to make customers feel better about the numbers and the tuning.
Lot of variables but yea. But as long as they're consistent is what matters.
Yea they increased the ratio between the two by not sticking with the same .85 OD - would have been a 0.24 difference but tested with a 0.293 ratio difference instead.
I've never used a dyno, but even I can tell something is wrong when you get factory crank power numbers at the wheels. Something has to be wrong somewhere
@@wrifraff Doesn't mean something is wrong, also doesn't guarantee it's correct though. Manufacturers almost always rate conservatively due to litigation. In a world where mass manufacturing cannot yield the exact same product every time, factory numbers are more of a validation that even the poorest performer within a lot will not produce less than the claim. These are also not naturally aspirated, exhaust forced induction is a massive variable; especially with large boost levels.
@@wrifraff Matt is right. This is best-case scenario numbers. Modern engines will detune somewhat when they get very hot, e.g. pulling 25 lbs. up a steep grade for a long time at wide-open throttle. More over, they admitted it was a cool morning... very high-temp dry air will decrease power as well as less thick air is able to be stuffed in the cylinders.
There was a time when Ford was a bit over-optimistic on their ratings whereas Dodge/Chrysler/Plymouth was known for being conservative. I'm glad to see Ford doing it this way instead.
Subscriber from Australia sitting down after outrunning all the bushfires on the way back from our 4x4 spot. ,Just gotta say,sitting down watching these videos makes me forget about all that shit . Every upload I live through, love it! Keep up the great work. Love the amercian trucks. Tough As Nails! I wish they were more affordable in Australia. A mid range 2019 f250 is about 105,000 USD here :(
Wow great vid n results👍interesting to what computer setup like, like running trucks on dyno show how your engine works but these new transmission are unbelievable.
Thanks for the dyno results. I just got a new 2020 F250 PSD. The holeshot could use some improvement but power comes on very quick afterward. I am still breaking it in but I did one 40 roll and a dig against my buddy's stock 2019 F250 PSD and he was shocked how fast I ran away from him. I am amazed at the performance of such a big heavy truck. I will probably add tuning when it has been road proven and that will be it. I am also amazed at how quiet this 2020 PSD idles. Maybe it gets louder with age.
sheesh, I wish my "older" truck was a 2019....
I am still driving an '02 7.3L Powerstroke
@@richfarfugnuven6308 just bought a 2010 f150. It was the newest best truck I could afford. Hope to get 100k out of it
@@LordFred69 I just love my old 7.3L Powerstroke.
1995 ranger
@@mlow42 i had a 96 ranger for a while. When i put it up for sale i had 10 buyers within 24 hours. This was the extra cab version. I drove my 2001 f150 4x4 until the engine up and quit one day while towing. While the 2010 has more bells and whistles Imiss the raw simplicity of the 2001...i trusted that truck :(
I wish they would bring back the 2011 body style 😢
Just test drove a 2020 Lariat superduty 7.3...that’s what I’ve been waiting on...I will admit I was not super impressed by the numbers when they came out but the low end torque is impressive and with that new silky smooth 10spd it felt very responsive all be it fast (close to a 3.5 ecoboost). I’ve been wanting a gas (to avoid all the epa diesel junk) but the 6.2 is such a dog so that meant stretching a f-150 3.5 ecoboost to the limit. I just wasn’t sold on that. But man this new 7.3 sounded great and had the power.
As soon as a white lariat ultimate comes along I’ll sign the papers.
I recently bought a 2019 6.7L with a 6 speed because I have a rule about buying “proven” systems that are very reliable.... but I really do want the 10-speed now 😂.
Adventures In Reality I’m in the same boat as you with that but Ford offers 5 year 60k power train and 5 year 100k Diesel engine warranty and my dealership offers lifetime on both when those warranties run out, just gotta pay labor, so I went 2020. Only time will tell
Ford F-250 6.7 Super that lifetime is a nice thing to have!! I am towing a 20k RV and I know after the warranty expires that the 6-speed is damn near bulletproof. But maybe down the road I will upgrade. Best of luck with the new rig! Hope it serves you well for many years my friend!
Adventures In Reality you as well, we are a family of RV’ing, currently towing a 31 Jayco Whitehawk, loaded its 11.3k, my 18’ PS had zero issues towing it, but decided to go with a 2020, this will be my 10 year truck, haven’t towed yet with it, only had it 2 weeks, waiting till spring before I do. That being said, only one other person here on RUclips has said something about ride quality, there is a night and day difference between the 18vs2020. And no one else is talking about that, just talking about power, the ride is unbelievable, my wife owns a 16’explorer and agrees the truck rides better than her SUV
Ford F-250 6.7 Super really?! That is surprising, was your 2018 a three quarter ton as well? We are full time Rvers as well and given the weight of our rig we got a dually. When I have weight in the back the truck rides fantastic, empty it jumps some like all duallys. I didn’t realize they did suspension upgrades and I worked at ford lol
@@FordF-Super I can confirm the 2020 ride is great. And I'm coming from a 2018 chevy 1500 6.2 4x4 with aftermarket shocks that also rides great. F350 same or better than the chevy.
This is the kind of Flywheel to tires power discrepancy we like to see! Not over-rated engines but heavily under rated! Well done Ford👌👍(Coming from a Ram owner)
Great documentary! I already had the ratios for both. From this, I see one noteworthy item which you did not mention is the HUGE difference in reverse gear. On my 2017 6.7 F-350, backing uphill, with even a modest weight trailer, loads up on the torque converter. It shouldn't do that. On the 6 speed, reverse is 3.128. This is impractically tall, being halfway between 1st and 2nd gear ratios. For the 10 speed, reverse is 4.69. That is a very welcome FIFTY PERCENT REDUCTION!
I saw an interview with a Ford executive (which I’m now looking for) where it was stated that they had reduced parasitic loss on the trucks down to about 14%. These trucks are still over clocking, but it is what I had heard in the interview. I suspect this to be especially true for the 10 speed. With 10 gears to spread the power over, it is reasonable to believe they are able to tighten up the transmission.
Yea 20% is an over estimate. I have heard different driveline and power train engineers say this a few times. No more than 15% should be used these days. Some vehicles are said to be even around 10% or less.
The power levels in light duty trucks are getting to just stupid levels, if 900 ft lb isn't enough to tow your load then you should be looking at a medium duty truck and not a light duty. I would much rather see gains in efficiency and making the emissions systems better/last longer.
T51B1 I’m with ya, they love to pander to the manufacturers, I’ve asked in all their videos with no response so I stop asking, I don’t believe they can answer intellectual questions. What has Ford done to improve their EGR, DPF or regens? Doesn’t really matter I guess, I still bought one, since 2015 all my PS have been nothing but reliable
I’m still a hold out from 97 lol. I have my old 7.3 for pulling. I will never ever sell that truck ever.
James Wuertele 👌 don’t make them as good anymore. Keep that beast forever 👍💪
Right! But medium duty trucks like the F650/F750 are derated to 330hp and 800ish torque.
Why after 100k miles it forces you to buy a new truck. Ford only makes money when you buy new. Dealers make money when you buy new have warranty claims and service you truck. Neither makes anything on used sales
I'm glad I waited to get a 2020! Thanks. 😁
Leonard Rice haters gonna hate.
My 2021 F350 6.7 has so much power stock, I really don't feel I need a tune. It tows like a monster!
Good gooly moogly!!! For all those “they don’t make them like they used to,” I say suck it. These trucks have 2x the payload, HP & TQ. Yes they might be 2x the price but also getting close to 2x the MPG. Do some inflation adjustments and yours looks good at cars and coffee after you spent how much on rust repair?
A 2002 Superduty F-250 CC 4x4 SB PSD A/T, a very common configuration, had a starting price of $37,575 before other options. Adjusted for inflation (Jan-2002), that's $54,571.38. A comparable F-250 would start at $56,270 before options. That's slightly more money, but not slightly more truck. The new truck is bigger, far more capable, comes with more standard features, it complies with stricter emissions and safety rules, that on top of other things. You are certainly getting far more for your dollar now.
www.autoblog.com/buy/2002-Ford-F_250-XLT__4x4_SD_Crew_Cab_156_in._WB_HD/pricing/
www.autoblog.com/buy/2020-Ford-F_250-XLT__4x4_SD_Crew_Cab_6.75_ft._box_160_in._WB_SRW/pricing/
Don't forget a little factor called "reliability". My '01 7.3 will still be going clickity clack while these new ones are in the shop. Sure the new one's put out amazing power, but there's always another side to that coin. Especially since their fuel/exhaust systems have become so complicated and finicky. Diesel fuel isn't exactly forgiving.
So far, the 6.7 is actually proving to be more reliable than the 7.3.
@@douglasullman9777 Even with the emissions systems, the new 6.7 PSD is actually pretty reliable. As long as you maintain them and drive them right, you really shouldn't expect many issues with them. Also, the 7.3 was legendary, but it's without its own faults, and it certainly won't last forever without needing a few trips to the shop. Between the 6.7 and the 7.3, maintenance and care is more critical than anything else. Don't let the emissions system complexity and cost scare you away from a new one.
@@douglasullman9777 ya but stock for stock the 7.3 was hilariously under stressed from the factory
I test drove the 2020 6.7 STX trim. It was easy to break the back wheels loose. Also Ford lightened the steering and softened the suspension. I test drove a 2019 F-250 6.7 also. The 2020 was noticable more quiet and more powerful. The 2019 still has vibration that can be felt in the steering wheel. The 2020 has a lot less vibration and drives smooth, powerful and quiet. 80mph the tack was at 2,000RPM. Also 80mph felt like 60mph. The truck is incredible.
Can you please install the stock wheels on the 7.3 gas for the MPG tests?
Sherco Rider those are the stock wheels. It’s a Tremor.
Andre is a happy happy happy boy, Andre at 5 Star Tuners is like a kid at the Toy Store with a bag of cash! Horse Power and TORQUE 1,050 lbs.is absolutely the best way to start the year!!! My lil ole 2.7 Ecoboost makes a measly 375 and I think that’s good, I ain’t man enough for this beast!!!
*Chevy & Dodge left the chat*
Great video and fun to see comparison. I bought a 17 F250 6.2L in Oct and it pulls with ease for my use. Love my truck and the SD line. Go Ford and great work TFL Truck!!
Very informative to have a video that just gets down to testing! Happy New Year!
Mine is supposedly arriving in two weeks. I can't wait! :)
What was your build date? Mine is being built tomorrow. Xmas is getting here a little late this year. 😂
@@hollywoodv8 I placed the order nov 18. Still no build date official as of yesterday. And now the tracking website is giving me an error!?! Maybe that means it's getting updated. I hope your xmas present shows up soon. :)
david hanley got mine 2 weeks ago. It’s awesome!
@@jklewisjkldev So jelly! I hope you're having a blast!
Mind bending power wallet breaking cost !!!!!
Not really. 45-50k $ these guys are super reliable and build really well. (I've had 3 f350s now) one 2018, and two 2019s
Daniel Udovenko I was i could find an F350 Diesel for 45,000 new on a dealers lot !!!!!!
@@paulherring8208 buy used. 30k miles or so. Not worth buying brand new I think. Just find one that had maintenance taken care of. At 30k miles you'll have about 6k miles of bumper to bumper warranty still left
Paul Herring buy a leftover 2019. Should be able to find one, look online. I’ve seen nice xlt diesel 4x4 models for around 47k and I’m in NC.
@@dudove1 "Slightly" used trucks are virtually the same price as new. Might as well buy new.
Wow the 2020 is a BEAST.
An old 2019🤣
So last decade. lol
These guys are clowns. They need to be replaced with some real mechanics
My work truck has the 6.2L, I love it, minus it drinks fuel really fast!
New Cummins had the same thing happen to HP. They advertise 400HP at the crank but they get about 390HP down to the wheels. Pretty impressive for a 6 cylinder engine.
Come on brother post the 7.3 numbers. Great post as always, now post them and stop teasing us lol.
Please stay tuned
They can't yet. There is an info embargo
In an earlier post The Fast Lane Truck said It would be out this weekend.
@@technom3598 the embargo is for the Ford loaner but TFL bought their own truck so they are free to test it as the like. That's why I love this channel.
@@ojbarberena7090 the Dyno runs will be with 5 stars truck. Unlikely TFL drove all the way to the east coast from Colorado just to shoot a video.
Like the 5 Star videos! Love when the dyno is shown.
So this engine could possibly be 500HP+ @ the crank...
Yes
Yes, but capable of so much more. There are thousands of guys with Nguage tuning running 600+HP and over 1100tq to the wheels. Programmer and exhaust delete only.
I was meaning from the factory.
Cummins guys are crying
Yes, it is well over 500 at the crank
That’s some serious power.
Sweet Baby J !!!!! Those stock numbers are INSANE !
One of the best comparison videos I’ve seen.
Thanks for reviewing the 2020 diesel
Looking forward to seeing what Godzilla (7.3L) does. Thanks much Andre.
352hp 383LB-FT
Wow! ... Thank you TFL for bringing us this very thorough and interesting video. We look forward to seeing part 2 when it's ready ;-) ... keep up the great work!
WOW!!!! At the wheels numbers are pretty damn incredible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Need to do Rams new engine on the 3500, might as well try out Chevrolet's too
Silly that they only offer that high rating on their specific HO trucks (that are honestly hard to find unless you order).
Happy New year TFL! God bless you all!
Impressive numbers, but that is all they are, numbers.
Do the Ike test with the big three and let's see where the numbers fall!
I was really hoping that Roman was going to smash the bug on the chalk board at 3:56.
My 07 LBZ Duramax puts out more Horse Power and Torque while on Tune 5 than the new 2020 stock trucks. My truck is almost in perfect condition and I paid 10K for it. These new trucks are reaching 70K price tags.
Very impressive. I have the 18' 6.7L 350 and love it. The 20' is very impressive.
Great stuff! I look forward to all your Fast Lane videos!
Thats crazy power coming frome a stock Ford Super Duty pick-up truck, that thing will pull anything you need to pull.
Great video man! Andres definitely shines with the truck videos!! Can’t wait to see what that new 2020 you guys picked up does. I also hope there’s some drag races versus the 2019 diesel and 2020 diesel :)
I can’t wait to see what the new 7.3 gas can do supercharged and tuned!
Democrat Leader that 7.3 would be better with a turbo i would say , that engine tranny setup has crazy torque at like 1500 rpm
Thats the republican way boi
Only democrat wonders what possibly 7.3 gas can do? Needing to pull a train of liberal inbreds?
Geez that torque! Tree stumps everywhere have begun trembling
Another outstanding, educational, and fun video. Well done. The 7.3 gas will be fun to see!
If you add only 15% to those 2020 numbers, it would be 539HP and 1,117 lb-ft of torque at the crank!! That's huge!
All people want to know is, what’s the real world 7.3 mpg. That is literally all. The differences between a 17-19 vs 20 diesel in real world use is small.
15mpg avg with the Tremor equiped with 4.30 at 70mph cruise
Damn that's a lot of power
Wow, Ford responds big. "Screw you Ram, we will build a rocket, and you can keep your nice interior........."
And will break down every day
mtrujillo1973 ?
That 2020 is a beast.
What id love to see is a comparison video with 2 identical f350 duallies, one with new power stroke, one with new 7.3 gas. I'd be curious how they'd handle the same amount of weight on the ike, loaded and unloaded mpg, everything. I'm sure you guys are way ahead of me and will deliver!
It’d be interesting to see what a tuned 2020 6.7l could lay down.
That's what we call a happy dyno
I just bought a 2019 F-350 drw. Wanted a 2020 but dealer was an idiot. So I went to my second choice. I cannot express how much I like the truck. I wish it had manual transmission. But with that being said I can’t imagine the 2020 with more power.
It will lock up the torque converter and all the gears if you put it in manual mode.
KoolCordell I know but it’s still not the same. I will always want the clutch.
It's not been very long at all that those numbers would have been great for a tuned, deleted, bolt on engine and just a few years longer you had to swap turbos, injectors and more to get this power. Very impressive!
Glad to hear someone actually use the proper lb-ft rating for torque.
I guess a couple Ram owners hit the dislike. Lol
Bbbbut but it's not a Cummins derrrr
Standard correction tends to put up bigger numbers. Should use SAE.
When did Kevin Smith start his own Dyno shop?
D Moore I thought the same thing lmao
Hey Andre, I think the halogen lights look amazing on the f250s
Another great video. I've got a 2018 Lariat 6.7 Powerstroke. Its lightyears better than my 2016 6.7 Powerstroke. Im going to have to get a 2020 now...
Impressive but after buying a 2011 f250 6.7 & paying it off, just not worth the additional debt. I have noticed the mpg has slightly improved since going over 80,000 miles.
I shouldn't have clicked on this video.. I just bought a 2019 F250 Lariat Powerstroke and now I'm feeling like my truck is ancient. It's ok though I prefer the 2019 front end and I just ordered a Banks Derringer tuner so hopefully that makes up for the difference in my truck vs a 2020 powerstroke.
@mtrujillo1973 lol! I don't really pick sides with the brands, I sold my 06 Cummins to upgrade to my F250 and I liked both trucks for different reasons. My new F250 is just really refined and comfortable compared to my old truck, but then again I'm comparing a 13 year old truck to a brand new one so it isn't really a fair arguement! Only main complaint I have with my old truck is that the transmission needed to be replaced 4 times! All I had done to it was an exhaust and intake added but that was it.
Funny how these numbers don’t match what 5 star put up in their own video 2 weeks ago
I was having a complete s#!t~bag kinda day. ..opened up YT to get my mind off of it...this video helped. Super appreciate the collaboration with 5 Star. Great content! Exciting times we live in (for gearheads).
Thanks for the kind words!
OK, the gauntlet has been thrown down by Ford, how are Dodge and GM going to do on the dyno? The Ford made 476 hp and 970 lb*ft at the wheels. So there is apparently an 8% torque loss through the driveline. That would put the max power at the crank at about 514 hp. Who needs a tuning shop with numbers like that? Just drive the truck and be happy you still have the factory warranty.
What octane gas is used in the 7.3? I'm looking forward to the testing on your 7.3.
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mtrujillo1973 nobody here cares about you so stfu
So with with a 18% drivetrain loss they 19 would make 483 hp and 1081 trq at the crank. A 18% loss on the 20 makes 553 hp and 1146 trq at the crank. Ford be lying about some numbers. Probably fibbed on the numbers so every yr they can say it makes a little more without actually changing anything because its under rated.
20% is said to be an overestimate of driveline loss for newer vehicle. Still impressive results here. Wish you had a Cummins and Duramax in same day for comparison 😃
Auto trans included 20 is fair
I drive a stock 2018 6.7, and this video is making me want to upgrade! Dang!!
Looking forward to seeing one Pull the hill:-)
I cant afford ethier one but cant stop watching 😂🤷♂️
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When they tune the truck it would be nice to see if they can move the power lower and back it with dyno chart.
Let’s not get carried away, theses engines aren’t underrated, you can run a vehicle on 3 different dyno’s and get 3 different results. The most important tool in a dyno booth is the operator, numbers are just numbers without an experienced person to read them.
If the old 20% rule, which factors in power loss through the drivetrain, is true then this means the 18-19 models (Listed at 450 & 935) are putting out roughly 502hp and 1168lb ft at the crank. NICE!
7.3 is going to run into its speed limiter in 7th even with the 4.30
Yah but dyno computer with recalculate numbers to reflect.
@@SMiller5488 not if you can't reach peak power in that gear..... Or did you mean running in 5th can be calculated for the gear ratio not being 1:1? If that is what you meant yes it can but accuracy suffers.
@mtrujillo1973 dont be a little bitch about it, 6.7 has been out since 2011 vs this brand new motor that is actually exciting.
The 2020 power curve is beautiful