DCS: F-16C Viper | JSOW
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2021
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In this video, we’ll look at the AGM-154A Joint Standoff Off Weapon, or JSOW, for the Viper. The JSOW is un unpowered glide bomb that weighs approximately a thousand pounds. It has a range to up to 70 miles range, based on launch altitude and airspeed. It is a fire-and-forget weapon that uses INS and GPS to reach its designated target.
It can be loaded on stations 3 and 7 as either singles or pairs using a BRU-57 smart rack.
The A model includes 145 BLU-97A combined effects bomb submunitions, which are ideal when attacking unarmored and lightly armored units. It is not though designed though to destroy heavily armored units like a main battle tank. While there are also B and C versions, the United States Air Force only operates the A version.
Key commands:
Set SPI - Target Management Switch (TMS) Up: Right Ctrl + Arrow Up
Set SOI Between Displays - Display Management Switch (DMS) Down: Right Alt + .
Set SOI to HUD - Display Management Switch (DMS) Up: Right Alt + ;
Weapon Release: Right Alt + Space
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"unfortunate acronym"
LOL
In my country, there is a soccer player who is called Jizz Hornkamp. He must really love his parents..
Lmao yeah I didn't think he was going to acknowledge it, but it definitely made me laugh
Can’t wait to have the area right next to my target be absolutely obliterated.
11% obliterated
5% obliterated
16%
3%
6.8% obliterated
Thanks for the video Wags! What a great Saturday Morning! Hope to see some system work soon! ECM / HTS Pods. DED functions Markpoints, etc !
Thank you! Now I fully understand VIS mode using the TGP.
My favorite bird is getting more and more tools in her tool belt. Love it!
Amazing Wags! I'm very happy that Viper gets love. Still, I'm looking more additional functionality to systems thought.
Death and destruction." The F16 is beginning to show more than a glimmer of its versatility in the DCS environment, that's for sure.
Great video! Another tip is that if you use the HAD sensor for HARMs, you can get a SPI with PRGM2 when targeting enemy radar sites, and release a JSOW. It’s fairly accurate, and allows you to keep your standoff at high altitudes. Finally, it also lets you conserve your HARMs for the biggest radar sites, such as S-300/S-400.
Nice, I am looking forward to the LAU-131 hopefully that hasn’t been forgotten! Also looking forward to avionics development!
Dont believe the APKWS is planned
@@tamefroggy Could still use the -131 for regular unguided rockets and mount them on triple racks instead of being stuck with the LAU-3.
@@tamefroggy True but the LAU -131 launcher most definitely is planned…. They only have the LAU-3 in right now which is a ridiculous big drag tube for 19 rockets…. I I’m looking forward to the LAU-131 … 7 rockets and clean.
@@tamefroggy As an aside APKWS should be backwards compatible but that’s a different argument for another day.
Yes Yes Yes !!!
I waited so long for these :)
Thank you for the video, Wags!
I almost overlooked this video because the thumbnail was nearly identical to the JDAM video… and then I realized it said JSOW and then I nearly jumped out of my seat.
Hopefully the HTS gets implemented soon as well 😁
Looking forward to the next patch. Currently learning weapons on the F16 and never thought I’d say this but it’s really becoming my number 1 aircraft lol sorry Hornet I still love you xx. I really like that over 50% of staff are working on the Viper now too. Can we please have moving weather as it dose effect a lot of factors. Great work Dynamics
finally, the f16 is getting more stuff. Thank you ED :)
Gettin that Viper love we all need!! Outstanding!
I got Jiz on my HUD!. Al in all sounds like a good mission. Roll on the ground crew clean up :)
Beautiful. 😍
This is going to be a good one!
I love flying this plane!
those two jsow's definetly hit each other :D
Not really, I went back and checked and they passed VERY close, but did not collide.
Woah a very rare update for the viper!
Thanks for the video. It's great that ED have resources to make progress in the Viper development while still finishing Hornet (I hope). Speaking of Hornet wanted to ask: would it be possible to create short video describing radar RAID modes for the Hornet: SCAN RAID, 1LOOK RAID, SAM introduced recently (maybe along with some other upcoming changes for the Hornet) ? They are not documented very well, I'd really appreciate that if you have time for / it's worth working on that for you of course. Thanks again.
I will try, when I have time.
@@MattWagner Thank you, sir!
@@MattWagner Yes, this would be very much appreciated. I looked for this, too.
Really nice vid Wags, while it's a shame that the B's never saw action the A's do the job that the viper tends to do as a W.W., it would be nice if DCS modeled soft kills a little btter then a health bar though ;) But I know that the team have said it's coming eventually with all the damage reworks.
Is there any news on when the Harm Targeting System is coming?
Very nice!
That is one H E A V Y F-16
7:13 Can't wait to get JIZ on my HUD :D :D
Many thanks Matt, great presentation. Kind regards Nick
Thanks bossmang.
Awesome video as always! Wondering what FOV you play at Wags?
His FOV changes constantly as he zooms in and out
@7:15 Thought I was watching a Laobi video for a second lol
When you drop a pair in series, lets say with 2000 ft spacing, related to your SPI where will they hit? One ahead of the SPI and the other on it, or one behind the SPI with the other on it, or with the SPI right in the centre of the 2 impact points?
Sweet !
Yes omg I'm soooo happy
Is the TGP be slewable to the SPI or only to waypoints?
Will markpoints later on make it possible to define SPIs (and let us slew the TGP to it for multiple releases per pass and not having to rely on waypoints (that require pre-planning, kinda like we can do in the A-10C) Hoping to make the viper a good CAS platform as well..
4:20 Matt, when we launch 2 💣 together we know that the “space impact” is the distance between 2 JSOW 💣 considering the SPI at the center right?
But these 💣 do not fall whole to the ground (such as JDAM), but open in the air in clusters. Therefore the “space impact” is calculated from the center of 1st 💣💣💣 💣 to the center of 2nd or simply the distance between 2 JSOW 💣 in the air?
I hope it is clear I,m 🇮🇹🙏👍
hell yeah!
Hi Matt, thanks for the video. Can you move the TGP cursor to change the SPI when in PRE mode? If yes, how does PRE differ from VIS? In VIS you used the HUD first to get the cursor to the area and finetuned it with the TGP. So basically in both scenarios you selected the target with the TGP. I don't really get what the difference is then between VIS and PRE.
PRE is designed to engage targets you already knew the existence, AKA preplanned targets. VIS is designed to quickly engage target of opportunity you have in visual, putting the thing on the thing on the HUD and go.
You could do the same in PRE with the SP mode of the TGP btw.
You could also use VIS if for some reason your TPOD isnt available
It looks like this video isn't part of the "DCS: F-16C Viper Training" playlist for this channel yet. Incase it would be relevant to add it. In the playlist video 30 is "JDAM" and 31 is "JSOW Uses Cases" (4:29 mins total video), seems it might slot between these two (?)
Love it, can we expect to see the ability to designate waypoints for the JSOW to follow eventually for the viper as well?
You just designate the waypoint and then that is your spi. Works the same pretty sure
@@ciwiyeet8216 no I'm talking about giving the jsow a steerpoint route to follow. Kind of like how you can program multiple waypoints for a SLAM-ER to follow
Depends on if the JSOW actually has that capability, the hornet should be able to do it right now. If not the JSOW probably doesnt have that ability
@@koekiejam18 it's a viper upgrade iirc. You can designate up to X number of waypoints for it to follow in. Can't recall that max number but like radius said it's called MPPRE mode.
Definitely the most destructive bomb in the F-16.
Cool!
Is the F-16 Going to be able to mount the dual Aim-120 launcher on hardpoints 3 and 9 (I think 9, the third hardpoint along from the wingtips)? Or is this not available for the block 50/not planned?
Cheers
Awesome. But question, is there a button to reset the view of the TGP and have it setup in front of you? Usually when i go from PRE to VIS the TGP still looking at Steerpoint so i have to move it aññ the way.
Thanks! Great vid
You set Snowplow SP to look forward and below you.
Press CZ (Cursor Zero) on the targeting pod screen
Okay, I'm a bit shocked why the AF only uses the A version. Is there a particular reason why? Thanks for the help. :) Oh, and what is a wikmid? he says that at 6:15. Thanks for that although. :)
How detailed and smooth dcs is on this vid
Hehe yeah! I’ve been struggling with fps since the last patch. Especially for the channel and Normandy.
This is offline on a map with probably only a few units.
I get this type of performance in single player but the second I switch to multiplayer it's almost like a 30% performance decrease.
Another great video, thanks Matt. It is a shame the 154C isn't available on the F16.
That would not be accurate.
@@MattWagner :( A guy can dream.
@@MattWagner Will the AGM-154B be available or no?
Maybe this is stated somewhere else but a bit of confusion here. If I'm in Pre mode and my target has moved, can I use my TGP to locate the target and set SPI with TMS up? Will this reset my SPI? This was eluded to in the JDAM video where TMS Up Long was mentioned. Is this the correct procedure or would I need to use VIS to locate a target close to my SP but not ON my SP? Really looking forward to the upcoming Viper toys!
Yes, that will work.
I'm not quite clear what the difference is between the modes. In the hornet, a pre-planned mode can only be dropped on target punched into the weapon system. Here, you said it can be dropped on any SPI, such as steerpoint, HUD or pod. Subsequently, the VIS mode seems to do the same thing... Or did you mean that in PRE mode you can only drop onto a steerpoint?
thanks a lot for all the hard work!
The Viper and Hornet terms differ. PP in the Viper is more like TOO in the Hornet. Lockheed / Boeing...... argh.
Does that mean that with the Viper you can waypoint designate (or TGP) a weapon, then step to the next and designate a separate target, so you can release multiple weapons against multiple targets in one release?!
@@faZhift So far thats how the JDAM is working. Just have 4 steer points on targets in an area, and its pickle, next steerpoint pickle, repeat.
Question for both the JSOW and JDAM... I notice by default the attack azimuth is set to 0 degrees and isn't used unless you manually adjust it first. If you do change it and later decide you don't care, is there a way to reset it? Like say for example I set it to an attack azimuth of 090 for my primary target, then as I'm on my way home, flying South, I spot a target of opportunity and I just want to drop on it without having to worry about the bomb or JSOW making a sharp turn to try and match the configured azimuth.
I believe you just set it back to 0 and if you want the JSOW to fly north you set it to 360
Will the impact and explosion sounds be tweaked before release? That immediate cut off of sound is rather jarring
I rather see the graphical effects be fixed..looked like the target area is covered in foam and whipped cream.
Oh and also, is the Viper going to get the larger flares back soon? It's been given the new, small, hornet flares for some reason.
Cant wait for it,
When will it be out from beta?
So far I haven't been a Viper guy...I might be one now
one question, can you use the visual mod HUD box, the same way but with other weapons like rockets, Mk82 or guns ?
No, you'll use DTOS mode, later, for unguided bombs.
Wags graphics are sooo crisp. I have the latest and greatest rig/3090 and still doesn’t look this crisp. Gotta start learning some of this AG stuff so awesome !
My graphics settings are listed in the About section of my channel.
I also have an issue with my 1080ti. My graphics remind me about looking through a Vaseline covered lens. Slight haze and blur on everything. Running reshade solves this. Not sure why my dcs installation behaves like this. All about max on all settings.
Wow Wags it sure is Thanks ! For everything 👍🏻
@@MattWagner Thanks for this.
Hey wags any chance we will get the jassm since that’s what we use in the Air Force? Thanks again for the updates!
That would be outside the 2007 time frame we are shooting for.
@@MattWagner ah okay thanks for the reply any chance we may get the gbu-39s?
@@zachhenshaw6377 Again, that is outside our 2007 US Viper.
@@MattWagner Thanks for the good work so far. One question: Is it correct that the jassm was introduced only a relativly short time after 2007? In all your publications it is said that ED do a Viper Blk. 50 CIRCA 2007. Because the JASSM would be such an improtant weapon system, would it not be possible to do the same USNG F-16 Blk. 50 only one or two years later? I dont think that the plane was scrapped by lets say 2009. I think the exact plane ED is modeling was only updated for the JASSM. So why not put the CIRCA 2007 by word and implement the JASSM? Thanks for reply and keep up the good work!
Highway toooooooo the JIZ ZONE....!!!
will the f16c get ground target designation via hmcs like the hornet does? would be very helpful for VIS-mode
Yes
Might start taking the F16 for more flights !
Nice! So they are a cbu97 you can basically fire at range?
No, more a CBU-87 with range.
@@MattWagner still cool. Last video you did helped me to get why we'd use it, so thanks again.
Awesome news about the cbu105s though! Hail to the King of cluster bombs, and temporary slayer of fps!!
Bring on the likes!
When in the group page and you're adding waypoints and waypoint missions, some of the specific mission code is prewritten. For example, when you select CAS the waypoint zero has about 10 lines of code like do not report passing waypoint, do not jettison, evade upon attacked, etc. Does anyone know a place I can find all that code and what it does?
Hello When we can have SOME info about Modern Air Combat ! ?
It's been 2 years. None of these functions have been added. Would it be possible to get these functions?
Will we get the AGM-154A-1? This is a variant of the A fitted with a BLU-111/B blast/frag warhead.
The BLU-111/B is also a variant of the Mk82.
That would not be accurate for a US 2007 Viper.
@National Christian Constitutionalist Party why
@@MattWagner But we're slated to get AN/ARC-210 as per this thread: forums.eagle.ru/topic/225957-reported-comm-2-radio-mislabled-as-arc-222/?tab=comments#comment-4506699
Which according to this: www.f-16.net/f-16_versions_article2.html Came on M5.1 starting circa 2008, which AFAIK is the entry date for the AGM-154A-1 (according to this: www.military.com/equipment/agm-154-joint-standoff-weapon entered production in 2006.
If the F-16CM can carry the A, it can also carry the A-1.
Unless of course the USAF doesn't operate the A-1 on the F-16CM.
EDIT: Seems to be the case unfortunately, the only reference to the A-1 on F-16s seems to be as part of FMS requirements for Turkey.
@@OliverMiles98 We plan to adjust the radio later.
@@OliverMiles98 The same source states EGBU-12 on the same M5.1 tape version that the JSOW is on. What's the deal with that weapon? I don't recall seeing it on ED's feature list.
Is it always best practice to release when JIZ is at maximum range? For better splash damage?
It does not matter.
Was it confirmed that we aren't getting the Sniper TGP on the Viper? I haven;t been keeping up to date with the roadmap recently
TBD
Wags saying "TBD" is the same as chanting for McDonalds as a kid and your parents say "maybe" only to drive past it 2 minutes later
@@MattWagner Okay cool! thank you for letting me know.
What is the Button he is pressing to release the camera from the weapon to watch the explosion?
Right Ctrl + F11
I’m sorry if I missed it in the video…but next open beta? Any other Viper updates coming? Thanks!
Coming soon.
@@MattWagner thank you sir!
@@MattWagner two weeks?
Matt i am not playing dcs but i love earching Videos and if i have a good enaugh Computer im gonna play
The word “zone” doesn’t show up anywhere else with the viper. A fighter pilot definitely came up with the JSOW IN ZONE acronym and knew exactly what they were doing lmao
9:00 "Now flex tape. cant fix that."
Moaar toys!
LETS GOO
Will we get the option to sport 12 GUB 12's on the Viper at any point?
That would not be accurate.
When will we be getting more liveries for the f-16? Like Hollomans 314th or the thunderbirds.
Perhaps, but we already have a very large file footprint for Viper skins.
There are many versions of the Thunderbirds already for down load on the ED User Files site. Have you looked there? Also, there could be some Holloman paints already, if not, it is best to contact one of the many livery creators and provide them with pics or links to the specific aircraft of squadron you want painted. I have found in the past most to be personable and if you are patient they will get to your request when they are done with what they want to do. It never hurts to ask.
@@MattWagner there is planning an oficial upgrade for textures and some minor model problems ?(Like missing uvs in the back of the cockpit) .. The Airplane is looking good.. but NOT so good like another models (like the hind for example)
Are these effective against EWRs and SAM clusters? And how likely are they to be shot down like the HARMs?
Yes, air defense units is the primary task. Re shoot down, it depends on the SAM type and editor settings for the site. They are large weapons, and while they have some RCS shaping, they are far from invisible.
sa-15s can take some of em down if they are detected
A SPI is a SPI is a SPI - will we get the option to enter coordinates for the INS anytime soon as well? No rush but I wanted to know if its on your dev list?
You have to create a steerpoint to act as the SPI.
@@MattWagner Is that an as intended thing, or it's not complete thing?
@@TheDNick Correct as-is. It is a different system than the Hornet.
🤦🏻 sometimes there are times of….. brainlag
Thank you Wags.
I don’t even see the agm 154a in the arsenal. And yes I’m in the beta and looking in the 3 and 7 pylons
If PRE uses a SPI, of which the HUD can generate, how is it different from VIS?
Both VIS & PRE use SPI. In PRE, the steerpoint coordinate is the SPI. However in VIS, you need to press TMS FWD to set the coordinate as SPI.
Anyone know the prefix pilots would say when dropping the JSOW?
Much like Rifle or Mav or Magnum for a HARM?
Or is it just pickle ?
"Pig(s)", no joke. However, I don't know if it's just "Pig" like "Rifle" or if it's "Pigs away".
@@oppotato5440 sorry for the nooby question, what is the call when dropping dumb bombs and rockets?
@@oppotato5440 thanks for the help
Somoneone clearly had a sense of humor when they came up with that acronym.
Can you help us to have 2 dof simulation working direct from the game
Should you have been in CAT1 or CAT3 for that heavy of a load? Cause you in were in CAT1 the whole time
Yes, CAT III should have been selected.
Can any plane boys explain the gap between the fuselage and the intake? Doesn't that increase drag? Isn't that the very last thing you want in a fighter aircraft?
When the skin of the aircraft faces incoming air there's a boundary layer that "sticks" to the aircraft and if the engine sucks it in it can affect performance, so the gap allows that air to divert to the sides while a plate ensures that the engine gets fed a more laminar flow. If you look at a F-4 Phantom it also has those gaps. And in modelling aircraft that come in pieces you can sometimes see that the fuselage piece without the intakes has a "reverse teardrop" shape to be as aerodynamic as possible. The F-16 has that too, the gap has a thin "web" at the front and the shape increases thickness towards the rear like the bow in a ship.
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD , nice and proper answer!
Although its superior range, it looks like cannot do much damage. In the last shot most of the light armored vehicles survived. And they were located close. A single cbu 97 would wipe them out completely
The A is not an anti-armor weapon, It's essentially a stand-off precision guided CBU-87. the B which we're not getting, is the anti-armor version "CBU-97". The A is useful for airfield attack/denial, trucks, troops, SAMs, artillery, installations, warehouses, and they'd do a number on POL sites, as well. etc., etc., etc.
@@urgentsiesta7606 Well the CBU-87 in DCS is also very underrated. These are light armored vehicles and the weapon did almost no damage. We are talking about 2x1000lbs area effect munitions. Forget the tents, they get destroyed by anything in DCS. Its just fireworks. Is this right? I don't think so because the CBU family is a very destructive and reliable combat proven weapon. Check the numbers used in combat by the USAF. Drop on 20 closely placed BMPs and 2-3 destroyed? Not really good. These aren't T-72s or T-80s.
Just a few destroyed and the other will just shake it off with no loss of combat effectiviness. A shotgun pattern of 20mm would have done more :/
@@f-16c I suggest you read up on the differenct cluster munition types. The targets Matt selected, though not MBT's, are STILL armored vehicles. This wep is for unarmored / unprotected area targets, as documented in various places (and above).
Can someone help this beginner(me) to find out how to toggle active pause?
And what about the JASSM ?
It's a real shame no branch (navy in particular) chose to procure the B variant- those submunitions are by far the most effective cluster munitions in DCS at this time and would've made for fantastic tank busting. I know you guys typically operate on a "if the platform could've possibly used it then it's available else no" type of deal so I'm not expecting it, just highlighting how much of a shame it is for our purposes.
By all accounts the B had a slew of technical issues and they never got it to work right. They went over budget trying to get it to work and never did get it to work reliably, which is why it was canceled.
With the CBU-105 in the pipeline, USAF probably did not see the need.
Soviet Union collapsed so nobody needed anti-armor B variant.
LOL "an unfortunate acronym" indeed. They should've called it "JSOW In Range".
Hey Wags, when's the promised Viper Flight Model update coming?? The last stable build mentioned them but the change log didnt reflect any update... Viper guys are tired being outrated by a hornet throughout the entire envelope.
I concur! At least a few words about the progress would be appreciated.
Yes, we are now setting SME feedback.
What about mppre?
Is the JSOW cleared for supersonic flight?
Yes, in fact, good to launch high and fast to get the largest DLZ.
So while the US Air Force only operates the A, will the B or C be implemented in the DCS Viper?
That would be inaccurate so probably they won't.
@@Jimmybrianmike yeah, i still wanted to ask as i didnt know if they would implement it as it is theoretically possible to use on a viper but just not regularly. Tbh i just wanted the bunker buster jsow on the viper :(
@@MichaelNelsonYT No sadly only the A version will be on the Viper.
They have already stated that no.
@@NoBrainSilent ah, my bad. Thanks for the info
Oh my God okay it's happening, everybody stay calm!
A Little heavy for this mission......... What other crap can we bolt onto this flying brick.
So in PP-mode you use the TPOD to target and in VIS-mode you also use the TPOD. Weird.
It defaults to your current Steerpoint as SPI, but could then be set as an offset SPI with the TGP. Or, first designate the SPI through the HUD using VIS, and then fine tune with the TGP after switching the SOI to it.
Sadly, no AGM-154B variant for the Viper
That would not be accurate for a US Viper, which are are modeling.
@@MattWagner Agreed, but nevertheless it is sad. Luckily we still have the CBU-97.
The fact that it was announced (with a "subject to change" warning) gave me hope.
forums.eagle.ru/topic/206282-subject-to-change-desired-f-16c-systems-and-payloads/
JSOW, Because its taco night at the base
Can jiz be the release term? lol
Will we get SDBs?
That would be outside the 2007 time frame we are shooting for. While the SDB entered service in 2006, that was just for the F-15E. It did not enter the F-16 fleet until several years later.
@@MattWagner that is a shame. Having SDBs would offset the vipers perceived handicap when it comes to air to ground when compared to the Hornet or the Hog