I think the last moments of Andrew Ryan are amazing not just because they are spine chilling, but because in the end he just reminds you that you have no free will, that you are a slave, a pawn in the game, you follow every last order, he even orders you to kill him, and you do just that so his final moment when you kill him is his ultimate victory because by you killing him he proves that you are not a man, but a slave.
Whyamialive ? I don’t know I think Andrew Ryan as a pitiful being his death seems meh considering it could’ve been avoided had he not been such a punk ass little bitch. But that’s just me 🤷🏻♂️
So, my conclusion is as follows: Ryan knew he was done for. He had lost Rapture, and was defenseless. He knew he was going to die, but wanted to do so on his own terms. However, instead of just shooting himself or something similar, he commanded Jack to kill him to show Jack that he was a slave being controlled by Fontaine in a final effort to save his son and defeat Fontaine.
I think "save his son" is really an attempt to moralise him incorrectly and unnecessarily. Jack is only Ryan's son in regards to the fact they share the same genetic markers. Ryan is an ultimately selfish and spiteful man, why he would have love for a genetically mutated embryo that was sold by his then lover and used to unmake him is a bit strange considering his personality and history. What Ryan saw in Jack was basically the ultimate UNO reverse card, as Fontaine had used Jack to destroy Ryan, he would in turn manipulate Jack, albeit with the truth, and send him on the path of destroying Fontaine. Ryan's entire character is an exercise in spite. A man who lacks such staggering self-awareness and understanding of the world, that he thought man's greatest weakness was control, and not spite.
To me it was, “You were nothing but a slave, below me in every way! The only reason why you can kill me is because I ordered you to!” That to me is more fitting to Ryan’s personality.
You can tell Bioshock is a goddamn masterpiece. You, as the player, had no choice to disobey Fontaine in any regard other than how you went about collect Adam. You were a slave by the games' design.
Ryan wasn't a good man. But he had conviction. He had principles. He was devoted to a dream that would change lives. Fontaine was just a miserable worm. He was willing to step on everyone else to get what he wanted. He was nothing but greed and malice. I didn't like Ryan, but I respected him. The same won't ever be true of Fontaine.
Temna Senka I dunno if you were intending to, but in one of Arkham knight’s DLCs, Batman tells ras al ghul “ You weren’t a good man, but you had.... conviction.” Just kind of a funny coincidence.
I always thought both Ryan and Fontaine were basically the same, sure Fontaine didn't have any convictions other than himself, but this really isn't any different than Ryan; whose very convictions help give rise to Fontaine in the first place. Both sought to build their own empires for their own purposes and both were at bottom purely self-interested people with no goal beyond their own self-aggrandizement; just started from different places.
No Heroes Publishing But at least Ryan tried to build something for everybody else too instead of just himself like Fontaine, even if they WERE both corrupt, personally, I’d rather be on Ryan’s side then Fontaine’s.
@A youtube user He still had the decency to stand to face his death. I think if Jack knew everything and Ryan hadn't forced him, he wouldn't have gone through with it.
I like how Fontaine's mobster slang starts to bleed through Atlas's fake Irish accent when Ryan tries to destroy the city. "Get in their and whack him!!"
Andrew Ryan is of a Russian descent. His very last word "OBEY" here sounds very much like russian word "Убей (oo-bey)", an imperative singular form of word "убивать" - to kill, as if he is commanding us to kill
While I did notice that, it may be just a coincidence. With that being said, his initials, A.R., are the same as that of objectivism's creator, Ayn Rand. And she is of Russian descent.
I think in his last moments, Ryan hoped Jack had a fraction of the willpower he had. Too bad mental conditioning and genetic manipulation aren't so easily broken.
I think you guys are wrong. Even Andrew Ryan is saying it. "A man chooses, a slave obeys". Ryan (a man) chooses to kill himself by his own way. A slave (Jack) obeys his command to kill him.
Jack is Ryan's son. He had already lost Rapture and the fight against Atlas but his son hadn't. He decided to show Jack that he was a slave to Atlas and by doing so reveal the true enemy.
i always thought Andrew Ryan is attempting to help Jack. after revealing to Jack that his choices were not his own he shows hesitation in his order. Instead of simply shooting Ryan he slow beats him to death after being repeatedly order to do so. with Ryans order to kill him he is choosing his own path and opening the door for Jack to choose his own.
I finished this game yesterday and my god, this gave me so many chills... I became a fan of Bioshock after clearing Infinite and started playing this one just to see if it'd be on par and boy, it did not disappoint.
Armin Shimerman owned as Ryan just like he did as Quark on DS9, Potter in Atlas Shrugged, Narud and pretty much all roles. Guy is a legend though as Ryan.
I found it really great storytelling to show that even though ryan had figured out your codeword, he chose to use it as a way to go out on his terms, and proving that your character was no man
Both Joel and Andrew Ryan were killed by a golf club... But Ryan's death was a moment of glory for him after accepting defeat and proving that he's a man and jack's nothing but a slave... An absolute humiliation for jack. While Joel's death...
Tell you what. You build a colossal self-sustaining colony underwater with advancements in science and chemistry far beyond anything they have on the surface, then see how much attention you pay to your collection of golf clubs.
The problem with this scene is that Andrew Ryan is immotal, via way of vita chambers, of which only he and Jack can use. This was described earlier in an audio log by Suchong.
@@saekisadako2118 if Ryan was still alive he would have never allowed someone like Sofia Lamb to take over Rapture, especially with the ideals she holds.
When Ryan says (line earlier before video) that it was magic that You somehow happened to crash right at rapture, I started to get skeptical. I paused the game, thought about it, and was able to guess what happened.
He's a bit of trivia for you. Andrew Ryan was voiced by Armin Shimmerman, who played Quark on Deep Space Nine. Mr House was voiced by Rene Auberjonois, who was also in Deep Space Nine, as Odo. In New Vegas, there's an easter egg challenge called "A Slave Obeys" where you kill Mr House with either a 9 iron or Nephi's golf driver.
a man chooses, unlike a slave. Who never strays from the path that his master paves, follows every order and does everything they say. Now would you kindly... OBEY
It would be easy to gloss over. This isn't a movie were you play through it in one sitting. Someone could spend a week, maybe two weeks, playing this game a few hours every day or every other day.
That's not what he says he says "A man chooses, a slave obeys." Those words that you said, correct me if I'm wrong, are lyrics from JT Machinima's Bioshock rap.
I don't really understand what Ryan was going for here, he states throughout the whole game that Rapture will be his again, and he doesn't even put up a fight here..
Jamie Cooke healthy geneticly clean man can do nothing versus tonic, plasmid killing machine. Even if he can kill maincharacter there is no forces to backup him... So he decides to final spit in the face of enemy.
Jack is Ryan's son. He had already lost Rapture and the fight against Atlas but his son hadn't. He decided to show Jack that he was a slave to Atlas and by doing so reveal the true enemy.
True, he dies here without fighting, but he dies on his own terms. He orders Jack to kill him. Even when dying, Andrew Ryan wanted to show that he is a man, not a slave.
Jamie Cooke what he did was rather symbolic. He knew that he was going to die and decided to free his son jack, as a final act of defiance, of the chain that made him into a slave to begin with, altruism. The whole message of the game is that you should be a free man in both action and thought, think for yourself and act only in your own interest.
Andrew Ryan is voiced by none other than Quark from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. Sci-fi’s favorite capitalist and Video Game’s favorite capitalist share the same actor.
Now that I think about it. Is it possible to counter "Would you kindly?" order set by others by saying Would you kindly" to yourself? I'm not sure if it's actually told in the game if that's possible.
I just finished the game on my Switch today, watching this video makes me realize how inferior my graphics are compared to the Xbox/PC 😭. It looks so smooth in this video wtf
Jamie Cooke When Fontaine heard Ryan was planning to kill him, Fontaine received surgery from Dr. Steinman to change his face. Fontaine also changed his name.
@@GordicesSemPeso Never played Wolfenstein. But I think a villain is better when they are aware that the atrocities they commit are wrong and genuinely enjoy it. I'm not sure what kind of mental gymnastics a person can pull to justify things they'd usually find atrocious.
I wouldn’t say he’s evil. He’s unapologetic for sure, but I’d say he’s a lot more spiteful than he is evil. He never intended for Rapture to become the nightmare it did.
As a huge fan of Deep Space 9 who heard about but never played this game, when I heard the actor of Quark voiced this character I was like "No! Really?" And then I played this scene and listened closely and the similarities struck me like a sack of bricks. The enunciation is a different, probably due to the lack of prosthetic Ferengi teeth, and the energy between Andrew and Quark is totally different. But the cadence has such a unique rhythm to it that if you know what to listen for you know it couldn't be anyone but Armin Shimerman. Blew my mind
There is a Ryan audio log stating he would postpone the family thing until after the new year thing that ended up starting the Atlas uprising. He did get the hooker Jasmine killed when he found out she sold the embryo of her secret pregnancy to Fontaine. It was not normal birth - Jack the PC was rapidly aged something like 19 years in one year and had Ryan's DNA in him, which means he was a clone and not a child of a normal birth. Bioshock 1 plot has massive plot holes in it (e.g. how the fuck did he build stuff six miles under the Atlantic Ocean in early 19-hundreds with the technology of that era), so try not to think it too much. BS relies on movie logic.
Am I the only one who thought that Rayan survived? I mean there is log nearby his office that talks about vita chambers. I thought that after this scene Rayan planned to be resurrected by it and is still alive. Shame that never really happen
I wonder if he really dies, because you are the son of Andrew Ryan and the Vita Chambers can revive anyone who shares his dna. So could it be possible that he survived in Bioshock?
Vita Chambers are a gameplay mechanic, not an actually existing thing within their world. It’s like in other games, when you die, you’ll take a hit to the wallet, like you slipped the reaper a couple of fives to look the other way
No. If you check the closest Vita-Chamber in his office, it was shut down. The closest one was too far away to read his genetic material. Ryan is dead and he's never coming back.
Mr house: so how’d you die. Andrew Ryan: I got killed by a golf club. Mr house: Same here. Courier 6 with a golf club: who is up next. Jack Ryan: Come at me I have a wrench.
Because he wanted to show Jack the chains that bound him. Ryan wanted his ambitions to be restrained by no one, thought free choice would make Rapture great. But as things progressed, he saw his dream corrupted by greed and usurped. As he sat there, knowing he could not win against the splicers and Fontaine, he started to examine what went wrong. Free will and ambition are necessary to make something great, but one component was missing: altruism. So, since he knew he was going to die anyway, he decided to stick to these principles. He would die by his own choice and would do so in a way that would allow Jack to see his own chains, hopefully the first step to break them.
I think the last moments of Andrew Ryan are amazing not just because they are spine chilling, but because in the end he just reminds you that you have no free will, that you are a slave, a pawn in the game, you follow every last order, he even orders you to kill him, and you do just that so his final moment when you kill him is his ultimate victory because by you killing him he proves that you are not a man, but a slave.
Or maybe he was trying to show us who the real enemy is.
@@amangirma2001 no, definitely wanted to show the player they were his bitch.
Whyamialive ? Idk, considering it’s the player who’s still left standing after both ryan and fontaine are dead
Whyamialive ?
I don’t know I think Andrew Ryan as a pitiful being his death seems meh considering it could’ve been avoided had he not been such a punk ass little bitch. But that’s just me 🤷🏻♂️
The last word could have been Russian for kill as Ryan is Russian and probably wanted to make sure his sone broke free
So, my conclusion is as follows: Ryan knew he was done for. He had lost Rapture, and was defenseless. He knew he was going to die, but wanted to do so on his own terms. However, instead of just shooting himself or something similar, he commanded Jack to kill him to show Jack that he was a slave being controlled by Fontaine in a final effort to save his son and defeat Fontaine.
Wait Ryan is Jacks dad?????
@@jesus.e126 ...yes
I think "save his son" is really an attempt to moralise him incorrectly and unnecessarily. Jack is only Ryan's son in regards to the fact they share the same genetic markers. Ryan is an ultimately selfish and spiteful man, why he would have love for a genetically mutated embryo that was sold by his then lover and used to unmake him is a bit strange considering his personality and history.
What Ryan saw in Jack was basically the ultimate UNO reverse card, as Fontaine had used Jack to destroy Ryan, he would in turn manipulate Jack, albeit with the truth, and send him on the path of destroying Fontaine.
Ryan's entire character is an exercise in spite. A man who lacks such staggering self-awareness and understanding of the world, that he thought man's greatest weakness was control, and not spite.
To me it was, “You were nothing but a slave, below me in every way! The only reason why you can kill me is because I ordered you to!” That to me is more fitting to Ryan’s personality.
@@jaegar2786 that is also very true. Kind of the ultimate power move before death, although it was more of a message to Atlas than to Jack
Is it sad that - after almost a decade - I STILL get chills hearing the phrase "A man chooses, a slave obeys"? lol
im still so sorry for ryan, his dreams destroyed. killed by his son who turned into what he hates.
Thats so true
SPOILERS
i really need a t-shirt that has "A man chooses, a slave obeys" on it
My first tattoo is Would you kindly.
The best plot twist in any game or movie I have ever seen.
Jacob Morales yes it is epic
Still is
second place is COD BO 1 where Reznov was never there
Watch the Usual Suspects.
@@mikeehrmantraut1899 oh yeah that too
You can tell Bioshock is a goddamn masterpiece. You, as the player, had no choice to disobey Fontaine in any regard other than how you went about collect Adam. You were a slave by the games' design.
Would you kindly pick up the radio. the second play trough was somthing else ...
Unlike TLOU2..........
The joke's on Andrew Ryan, I chose not to play Bioshock.
@@renwulf1695 then i regret to inform you the joke is on you good sir
@@renwulf1695 well in that case. The joke's really on you.
Atlus: He's about to blow up the whole city! Get him now!
Jack: [Welcome to the circus of value]
A man chooses, a slave obeys.
@@renwulf1695 Bring us the girl and wipe away the debt
@@theseekersoflight2271 Come into the light, little moth
Would you kindly?
Ryan wasn't a good man. But he had conviction. He had principles. He was devoted to a dream that would change lives. Fontaine was just a miserable worm. He was willing to step on everyone else to get what he wanted. He was nothing but greed and malice. I didn't like Ryan, but I respected him. The same won't ever be true of Fontaine.
Temna Senka I dunno if you were intending to, but in one of Arkham knight’s DLCs, Batman tells ras al ghul “ You weren’t a good man, but you had.... conviction.” Just kind of a funny coincidence.
I always thought both Ryan and Fontaine were basically the same, sure Fontaine didn't have any convictions other than himself, but this really isn't any different than Ryan; whose very convictions help give rise to Fontaine in the first place. Both sought to build their own empires for their own purposes and both were at bottom purely self-interested people with no goal beyond their own self-aggrandizement; just started from different places.
XLimitbreaker21 He was a fucking swine for what he did to everybody.
No Heroes Publishing But at least Ryan tried to build something for everybody else too instead of just himself like Fontaine, even if they WERE both corrupt, personally, I’d rather be on Ryan’s side then Fontaine’s.
@A youtube user He still had the decency to stand to face his death. I think if Jack knew everything and Ryan hadn't forced him, he wouldn't have gone through with it.
Quite honestly the greatest monologue in video game history.
No doubt
Agreed
That it’s intertwined with player action and “choice” makes it even more powerful
Gayest comment in yt history
Andrew Ryan: *Is killed by a golf club*
Neil Druckmann: “Write that down, WRITE THAT DOWN!”
lmao i was just thinking that
Just started a second playthrough and that hurts. I’m not even there yet but I was dreading seeing it again. Ouch.
My sides went to hell and back.
@@phoenixchase9271 was it even implied in the comment that the game is bad?
@@phoenixchase9271 would you kindly chill
I like how Fontaine's mobster slang starts to bleed through Atlas's fake Irish accent when Ryan tries to destroy the city. "Get in their and whack him!!"
I loved that detail, the affable Irish accent descending into corrupted mook.
I noticed atlas saying would you kindly bit didn't notice how often he said it until this scene highlighted it, love this game
R.I.P. Andrew Ryan
"No kings, No gods, only men"
URSS Anthem*
Stalin, Polpot, and Mao Zedong's state in a nutshell.
solaire of astora
Andrew Ryan wasn’t even that he was bitch throwing a tantrum because things didn’t go his way.
*A Man Chooses, a Slave Obeys*
-Andrew Ryan 1960
solaire of astora Yes we know, Solaire.
I still get the chill at the entire scene. It's just so goddamn great
Andrew Ryan at 1:13: "Come now my child, there is one final thing to discuss." He was being quite literal here.
Andrew Ryan is of a Russian descent. His very last word "OBEY" here sounds very much like russian word "Убей (oo-bey)", an imperative singular form of word "убивать" - to kill, as if he is commanding us to kill
Yerzhan Yelekeshov but it still would've been the same either way though, right?
MIND BLOWN, you are so right
Statement: Andrew Ryan is Ayn Rand in an alternate universe.
While I did notice that, it may be just a coincidence. With that being said, his initials, A.R., are the same as that of objectivism's creator, Ayn Rand. And she is of Russian descent.
@Torba Why?
After all this years i have never seen someone saying that the airplane was highJACKed by jack .........
Statement: Andrew Ryan pretty much let you know that, meatbag.
@@KaosNova2 Statement : You are the meatbag here for not getting the joke.
Don’t say hi to me on an airplane.
@@captainjackpugh6050 yes
@@Baron0009 Curiosity: Since when do HK units have phones?
I think in his last moments, Ryan hoped Jack had a fraction of the willpower he had. Too bad mental conditioning and genetic manipulation aren't so easily broken.
6:22 ALL MUH JUICES!
Dakota Cross XD
Lmao
ALMOND JUICES
Hahaha
His juices are coming out of his face!
Fantastically voiced by Armin Shimerman, who famously played Quark in DS9.
While Odo did Mr House from Fallout NV, that makes it even funnier.
he looks so different in the remaster compared to the original
The remaster looks beautiful
Eduardo monsalve ariza i know it is, but compared to the 360 version, he looks different but better
In the remastered, ryan look more like the ryan we see in bioshock 2.
Much less shiny and potatolike.
Everytime . that poor puppy
Oh shut up pussy
Retro Astronaut why did you reply to a three year old comment
@@nedkelly6286 because he wants to be a buttface without someone attacking back?
Retro Astronaut how is he a pussy what are you a Psychopath do you like killing small animals
@@nedkelly6286 heh, you've not killed little cats
Ryan practically committed suicide right here and i never understood why
VinnieManSuper Even if you wouldn't kill him he has no security now thanks to you. Frank or any splicer could just walk in to kill him now
I think you guys are wrong. Even Andrew Ryan is saying it. "A man chooses, a slave obeys". Ryan (a man) chooses to kill himself by his own way. A slave (Jack) obeys his command to kill him.
Jack is Ryan's son. He had already lost Rapture and the fight against Atlas but his son hadn't. He decided to show Jack that he was a slave to Atlas and by doing so reveal the true enemy.
i always thought Andrew Ryan is attempting to help Jack. after revealing to Jack that his choices were not his own he shows hesitation in his order. Instead of simply shooting Ryan he slow beats him to death after being repeatedly order to do so. with Ryans order to kill him he is choosing his own path and opening the door for Jack to choose his own.
he could just ordered jack to turn around and go for atlas's neck
I finished this game yesterday and my god, this gave me so many chills... I became a fan of Bioshock after clearing Infinite and started playing this one just to see if it'd be on par and boy, it did not disappoint.
Just don’t play the second game because if you do prepare to be disappointed
@@Linki8uu part 2 wasnt even bad tbh it focused more on morals and bonds and i personally found it amazing
@@korosensei1325 ok I haven’t played in a while so I just remember it being disappointing I’ll have to play it again
@@Linki8uu thats fair thats fair, i just finished my second playthrough a day or two ago
@@Linki8uu The gameplay is way better and it ain't bad tbh, it just doesn't have a story as good as the first game
What chills you worse:
"A man chooses, a slave obeys, "
Or:
"The name's Frank Fontaine."
A man chooses, a slave obeys .
But the other is good as fuck as well.
If you hear "brake that puppy neck" you hear Jack refusing to but the man said would you kindly that code controlled jake
That’s Dr. Suchong
Andrew Ryan and Joel Miller.
Death by Wii Sports.
Lol
😂😂😂
The alarm acts as good background melody for the upcoming big moment
Armin Shimerman owned as Ryan just like he did as Quark on DS9, Potter in Atlas Shrugged, Narud and pretty much all roles. Guy is a legend though as Ryan.
He was also Principal Snyder in Buffy the Vampire Slayer
And General Skarr from Billy and Mandy.
While Rene Auberjonois aka Odo from Star Trek did Mr. House from Fallout NV, and both characters are similar to each other.
One of the deepest games ever made. Great scenario, intense gameplay, and so much philosophy to think about.
I found it really great storytelling to show that even though ryan had figured out your codeword, he chose to use it as a way to go out on his terms, and proving that your character was no man
Both Joel and Andrew Ryan were killed by a golf club... But Ryan's death was a moment of glory for him after accepting defeat and proving that he's a man and jack's nothing but a slave... An absolute humiliation for jack.
While Joel's death...
Was one from a course of his selfish actions, he doomed humanity and he paid the price.
What about Jason Todd. O wait he got resurrected as Red Hood never mind😂
@@jedrayne3636 did you know there's no vaccines for fungal infections
@@jedrayne3636 You mean a father saving his little girl ? Would you save your child or sacrifice it ?
@@SVTDI sacrifice it
It's so weird that Andrew Ryan is Quark from Deep Space Nine.
And Mr. House is Odo. And they are both based on Howard Hughes.
And Fontaine was Uncle from "Avatar: The Last Airbender". It doesn't invalidate their roles here.
Armin Shimmerman is easily one of my favorite actors ever
Man got so much range
I cant be the only one wondering why he's putting with a wedge...?
Joseph ZR1 oml I just noticed that
That's an old school putter.
Tell you what. You build a colossal self-sustaining colony underwater with advancements in science and chemistry far beyond anything they have on the surface, then see how much attention you pay to your collection of golf clubs.
Because a man chooses
The problem with this scene is that Andrew Ryan is immotal, via way of vita chambers, of which only he and Jack can use. This was described earlier in an audio log by Suchong.
Take a close look at the vita chamber that is in Ryan's office (kind of a narrrow hall behind the office). It's been turned off...
It only works on the closest chamber. Ryan had the one in his office deactivated. The only other one was too far away to read his genetic signal.
@@Jarock316 well chambers which are located far away from jack still teleport him
@@saekisadako2118 if Ryan was still alive he would have never allowed someone like Sofia Lamb to take over Rapture, especially with the ideals she holds.
Andrew Ryan’s last moments really saved his son, and doomed Atlas, since he shows them that they’re being controlled.
When Ryan says (line earlier before video) that it was magic that You somehow happened to crash right at rapture, I started to get skeptical. I paused the game, thought about it, and was able to guess what happened.
Mr. House?
Exactly
It’s the other way around, but yeah
I knew somebody will reference Mr. House. ;)
They're both based on Howard Hughes to some extent
He's a bit of trivia for you. Andrew Ryan was voiced by Armin Shimmerman, who played Quark on Deep Space Nine. Mr House was voiced by Rene Auberjonois, who was also in Deep Space Nine, as Odo. In New Vegas, there's an easter egg challenge called "A Slave Obeys" where you kill Mr House with either a 9 iron or Nephi's golf driver.
Just randomly remembered this moment and wanted to see it again. What an incredible story this game had. Wow!
ooh, you could hear fontaine's act slippng
He got teeth finally
protect N 2k17 "A man choovses a slave obeth." That would of been weird, Him not having any teeth.
When "Ryan Industries" changes to "Fontaine Futuristics" with Atlas revealing himself, is pretty spine chilling.
a man chooses, unlike a slave. Who never strays from the path that his master paves, follows every order and does everything they say. Now would you kindly... OBEY
Lol the flashbacks with all the instances of ‘would you kindly’, like the writers of this game didn’t trust the player to think for 5 seconds.
It would be easy to gloss over. This isn't a movie were you play through it in one sitting. Someone could spend a week, maybe two weeks, playing this game a few hours every day or every other day.
John Smith not alot of players pay attention to that..i didnt lol
1. Sterilise L/S chamber.
2. Disable cerebral interface.
The Beast “NO! Don’t disable... Cerebral!” - Robert Edwin House
Joel and Andrew are gonna get along just fine
3:44
You can thank me later
dík toustíku :3
toustík i
Thanks
You forgot to say "would you kindly"
toustík gracias
one of the best scenes in video game history
i het chills from a phrase, a man chooses unlike a slave, so won't you kindly,OBEY
That's not what he says he says "A man chooses, a slave obeys." Those words that you said, correct me if I'm wrong, are lyrics from JT Machinima's Bioshock rap.
I don't really understand what Ryan was going for here, he states throughout the whole game that Rapture will be his again, and he doesn't even put up a fight here..
Jamie Cooke healthy geneticly clean man can do nothing versus tonic, plasmid killing machine. Even if he can kill maincharacter there is no forces to backup him...
So he decides to final spit in the face of enemy.
He sends his goons throughout the whole game
Jack is Ryan's son. He had already lost Rapture and the fight against Atlas but his son hadn't. He decided to show Jack that he was a slave to Atlas and by doing so reveal the true enemy.
True, he dies here without fighting, but he dies on his own terms. He orders Jack to kill him. Even when dying, Andrew Ryan wanted to show that he is a man, not a slave.
Jamie Cooke what he did was rather symbolic. He knew that he was going to die and decided to free his son jack, as a final act of defiance, of the chain that made him into a slave to begin with, altruism.
The whole message of the game is that you should be a free man in both action and thought, think for yourself and act only in your own interest.
Andrew Ryan is voiced by none other than Quark from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. Sci-fi’s favorite capitalist and Video Game’s favorite capitalist share the same actor.
I can't believe I've only just found this out, after playing bioshock at least 10+ times and watching DS9 I feel ashamed I never made the link !!!
This scene is absolutely GENIUS. I love it so much. More games should do scenes like this, even if they never hit as hard as this one.
I can't avoid to empathize with my man Andrew
Now that I think about it. Is it possible to counter "Would you kindly?" order set by others by saying Would you kindly" to yourself? I'm not sure if it's actually told in the game if that's possible.
I am not really an expert, but I think it would be like trying to tickle yourself: it would not work
The softness when he says "come here" though... Also adore Sander Cohen's softness when he traps and welcomes you.
I just finished the game on my Switch today, watching this video makes me realize how inferior my graphics are compared to the Xbox/PC 😭. It looks so smooth in this video wtf
Andrew Ryan and Edwin House walk into a bar...
@Robin Banks Don't forget Jason Todd😂
Let’s all be thankful Bioshock didn’t come out in 2020
Or 2021 even moreso lmao
why?
@@saekisadako2118 DLC, DRM, SJW politics and virtue signaling etc.
@@seronymus ah i see.
@@seronymus also i hate those things which you mentioned with passion.
1:24 his accent slipped
Possible foreshadowing
Whack the chump before the whole joint blows!! Definitely intentional Fontaine was panicking.
Rule of acquisition number 48: the bigger the smile the sharper the knife
ryan predicted the last of us 2
@GazB Golf
One of the greatest twists in videogame history, next to the Revan twist in KOTOR.
is Atlas' profile image just a young Fontaine?
Jamie Cooke When Fontaine heard Ryan was planning to kill him, Fontaine received surgery from Dr. Steinman to change his face. Fontaine also changed his name.
Fresh Dookie How do you know
Jacob Morales mujic
nate fkingbreak 😐😂😂 good one no but really
There was a book. Fontaine's old name was Gorland, which was actually not his real name either.
"You'll never have my city" guess andrew ryan doesn't think really far enough
"Final Scene"
meanwhile the last quarter of the game that follows: ._.
I think he means the last scene with Ryan
Poor Andrew Ryan a man who built his dreams into an empire and loss everything to the greed and evil of others
well at least jack avenges his father
Bruh Ryan himself is evil, the guy is not different than Fontaine
ryan wasnt killed. he CHOSE death
I wish there were more villains like this. Unapologetic and loves being evil.
I think the only villain that loves being evil after Andrew is Frau Engel from Wolfenstein.
@@GordicesSemPeso Never played Wolfenstein. But I think a villain is better when they are aware that the atrocities they commit are wrong and genuinely enjoy it. I'm not sure what kind of mental gymnastics a person can pull to justify things they'd usually find atrocious.
I wouldn’t say he’s evil. He’s unapologetic for sure, but I’d say he’s a lot more spiteful than he is evil. He never intended for Rapture to become the nightmare it did.
@@GrubHuncher read the books
The man was a monster, even had his best friend killed
He was a pitiful hypocrite
@@Padre_des_los_penitentesbook names?
Trivia fact - Armin Shimerman who played the Ferengi bartender 'Quark' on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, voiced Andrew Ryan, there you go!!!
Beginning: oh man those splicers are scary
End: do I have free will? Am I a man?
Best plot twist in human history
That “come in” was so softly and eloquently said
After all these years, I’m FINALLY hearing Armin Shimmerman!
As a huge fan of Deep Space 9 who heard about but never played this game, when I heard the actor of Quark voiced this character I was like "No! Really?" And then I played this scene and listened closely and the similarities struck me like a sack of bricks. The enunciation is a different, probably due to the lack of prosthetic Ferengi teeth, and the energy between Andrew and Quark is totally different. But the cadence has such a unique rhythm to it that if you know what to listen for you know it couldn't be anyone but Armin Shimerman. Blew my mind
'Andrew Ryan choose to die by the hands of a slave's. A drunk man's summary.
A man chooses, A simp obeys
Now Would you kindly donate to my twitch stream
Abby did nothing wrong
LMFAO I literally came here for this comment 😂
Its was atlas' fault
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Joel did nothing wrong
Griffith*
Nobody:
TLOU P2:
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@Metsarebuff 22 okay. It was great.
what is TLOU?
Typo: Is
When Andrew Ryan said “My child”, he was really talking to his son
Uh yea
I wonder what part in Bioshock 2 you can find about this, never played Bioshock 2
@@franciscoreza8295 Um, this is actually from finding logs around Rapture in Bioshock 1, especially around Suchong’s labs.
@@yohanguy8216 I see, I saw someone mentioned that it was revealed by something in Bioshock 2, maybe I was mistaken
There is a Ryan audio log stating he would postpone the family thing until after the new year thing that ended up starting the Atlas uprising. He did get the hooker Jasmine killed when he found out she sold the embryo of her secret pregnancy to Fontaine. It was not normal birth - Jack the PC was rapidly aged something like 19 years in one year and had Ryan's DNA in him, which means he was a clone and not a child of a normal birth. Bioshock 1 plot has massive plot holes in it (e.g. how the fuck did he build stuff six miles under the Atlantic Ocean in early 19-hundreds with the technology of that era), so try not to think it too much. BS relies on movie logic.
played by the same actor as Quark from DS9
Sam Halford And Dr Nefarious from Ratchet & Clank
liamdude5 And Scarr from Evil Con Carne.
And Principal Snyder in Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
Craziest part was he didn't even say Would You Kindly when he told you kill
*W O U L D Y O U K I N D L Y ?*
- Andrew Ryan
Legendary line ,,Would you Kindly"
I never played bioshock
But this phrase really gaved me goosebumps
Seeing that scene as the only scene from Bioshock is like watching only the finale of Fight Club
Who wore it better Joel or Andrew Ryan
One of the best scenes in video games history
Tlou2 be like:
WARNING SPOILERS IN COMMENTS!!!
Wow, Armin Shimerman did a great job! It really is hard to believe that this is the same actor who played Quark because of how different they sound.
this with the beatdrop of the flashback song goddamn
Atlas, you can kill me, but you'll never take OUR FREEDOM!!!
Tlou2 in nutshell
Except its a good death
@@walletAbsorber which one?
Am I the only one who thought that Rayan survived? I mean there is log nearby his office that talks about vita chambers. I thought that after this scene Rayan planned to be resurrected by it and is still alive. Shame that never really happen
his vita chamber was deactivated
I wonder if he really dies, because you are the son of Andrew Ryan and the Vita Chambers can revive anyone who shares his dna. So could it be possible that he survived in Bioshock?
Vita Chambers are a gameplay mechanic, not an actually existing thing within their world. It’s like in other games, when you die, you’ll take a hit to the wallet, like you slipped the reaper a couple of fives to look the other way
No. If you check the closest Vita-Chamber in his office, it was shut down. The closest one was too far away to read his genetic material. Ryan is dead and he's never coming back.
love that the player keeps attacking Ryan's body after all is done
Armin Shimerman is a god. What an incredible actor.
Mr house: so how’d you die.
Andrew Ryan: I got killed by a golf club.
Mr house: Same here.
Courier 6 with a golf club: who is up next.
Jack Ryan: Come at me I have a wrench.
yeah but what if that mailman sided with house not that would be epic plot twist
Odo leaves the station for one fucking day...
3:44 - 7:08
after all these years the question still remains .. why?
Ak47 why what
Because it's his last way of sort of "spitting at his face". Rubbing in the fact jack has no free will.
Because he wanted to show Jack the chains that bound him. Ryan wanted his ambitions to be restrained by no one, thought free choice would make Rapture great. But as things progressed, he saw his dream corrupted by greed and usurped.
As he sat there, knowing he could not win against the splicers and Fontaine, he started to examine what went wrong. Free will and ambition are necessary to make something great, but one component was missing: altruism. So, since he knew he was going to die anyway, he decided to stick to these principles. He would die by his own choice and would do so in a way that would allow Jack to see his own chains, hopefully the first step to break them.