I actually really enjoyed them for the suspense and mystery they provide. Makes you wonder from very early in the game who are these guys and how can they move around like that
I think they are a reference to the play "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead" them being the titular characters. there are numerous references like the coin flipping always on heads
Good catch. "Now for a handful of guilders I happen to have a private and uncut performance of The Rape of the Sabine Women - or rather woman, or rather ...Alfred - (Over his shoulder.) Get your skirt on, Alfred"
Aidan M And what the fuck is that? Im not a smart person. Im just your average American gun loving Trump supporter in a sexual relationship with my sister living in a trailer. #Whitetrash
***** more like masturbation, since you are 99,9% the same (mind and body) minus that one chromosome.. twins are never the same, it is impossible to be identical to another person.
Holy f*** i just noticed this Remember how elizabeth flips the coin at you? You always catch heads? You flip a coin at the start, landing on heads, it never lands on tails Ever
As a little girl playing this game, I've always adored Rosalind and wanted to be her so badly I would often recite her lines out of the blue. Now as a college student, I'm majoring in Physics; studying quantum physics and particle physics. Oh, if only 12-year- old me could see me now.
It makes me happy that, in some small way, Rosalind might have led at least one more person to study particle physics. I hope you're journey amongst the forces and fields is a rewarding one.
But he probably isn't painting himself, he's painting her. At least, if she looks at it, it's a picture of her holding an apple. 19:39 "Where he sees an empty page, I see King Lear"
Rosalind: Odd, isn't it ? Robert: What's odd ? Rosalind: The fact that we sometimes... Robert: ... finish each other's sentences ? Rosalind: Exactly ! Robert: It would be odder if we didn't. Rosalind: Hm... *BEST CONVERSATION EVER*
Rosalind: Odd, isn't it ? Robert: What's odd ? Rosalind: The fact that we sometimes... Robert: ... Rosalind: Finish each otheeers... Robert: Sandwiches! It's sandwiches, right? Rosalind: .... I was wondering why you didn't build a floating city. Mystery solved. Robert: Hehe, I are so smart! _Now_ it's the best conversation ever.
If you want to be even further impressed with the "Twins" look to the origin of the name Lutece. It is actually the name the Romans gave to the original settlement that grow to become Paris! Furthermore the name refers to a marshy island in the middle of the River Seine that was the first outpost of the settlement. An island in the stream...the constant in the variable. Who doesn't love the "Twins"?
Watching this after finishing the game just adds to how great this game is. Like that very first scene in the boat, at 1:00 Robert says that there's no point in asking Booker to row, Rosalind asks why. Robert: Because he doesn't row. Rosalind: He doesn't ROW? Robert: No. He DOESN'T row. That emphasis on the "DOESN'T" means they already asked for one of the previous Bookers to help rowing, and discovered he doesn't know how to row. Probably one of the Bookers screwed up while trying to row during that storm, and now they know they must not let him row.
He doesn't row - He doesn't know. They are saying that currently the Booker doesn't know the plot of his significance whilst rowing to lighthouse to go to Columbia.
I offered up the same question/arguement in my own comment. I'm wondering if they really meesn rowing as rowing. Near the end of the conversation, their tones in their voices change. As if they are offering up secret innuendos for some inside joke only they know about. The male lutece is rowing. A man moving his hands up and down two stiff poles. saying the only other guy in the boat doesn't "row". Kinda transparent what is being said there. Booker Dewitt is straight, and male lutece knows this cause he tried with a previous dewitt and got nowhere.
That Lutece line "We are where we're needed." "And needed where we are." Applies to all of us in this dimension. This is because all dimensions sort of have a "pre-written" history" where we all do certain actions that lead us to somewhere new to do other actions. Actions cross actions. That is how dimensions work. The constant is being ourselves, but the variables being the actions/situations. This line also agrees with "everything happens for a reason." That is also why time travel sucks according to this theory. Since you change something that was supposed to happen, say a failed test, then you altered the pre-written history of this dimension and caused a tear in the space-time continuum. In short, everything happens to keep a dimension from crossing another dimension.
During heads or tails, if you stuck around and just stood there, the Lutece twins will say a few witty comments to you, before Rosalind says (making fun of NPC dialogue loops) "If you continue to stand there, I'll be forced to repeat myself."
I think it was more of a stab at the "constants and variables" multiverse possibility theme that revolved around Lutece. You just happen to prove that in some probable universe, a coin flip land on heads 120 times in a row. Extremely unlikely, but still possible.
Because Lady Lutece says she's surprised the Shield didn't kill Booker, and because this isn't their first go-around with sending Booker to kill Comstock, could it be that the Shield is what led to his success?
sandiego74 WOW! A reply a year later! I don't believe that the shield was the defining variable. Based off of the coin flip the Booker you play as is the 123ish I believe iteration. If the first 122 died when given the shield they would most likely be forced to conclude that the shield killing him is a constant and not a variable and decide to find another way to help him along. Most likely a majority of the Bookers died but enough survived to show that it is possible for him to survive and that it gives him a distinct edge. Based off of this logic we can conclude that it wasn't strictly the shield that let him survive because more Bookers would have had it before him. Or hey, maybe the Luteces are altering their formula for the shield between attempts trying to improve it and it is indeed what changed it.
TrueJunebug I think that the shield working was one but not the only condition for Booker to not die. Another could be 'old Elizabeth' giving him the notes to control songbird (i think she said something along the lines of 'songbird always stops you'). That indicades that all Bookers who survived the shield and maybe other variables/filters eventually died to songbird. Could be wrong on that one tho ^^
It's a series of circumstances that don't kill Booker is what makes your version successful. It's not just the shield. Maybe even surviving the transportation of Booker to this 1912 or the launch being successful or not having your face grounded by the skyhook
A little late, but the dead man in the lighthouse is also a variable. The Luteces kill him so he cannot get the jump on Booker. In the Luteces' house, they have a picture of the Lighthouse circled.
"When I was a girl, I dreamt I was standing in a room looking at a girl who was and wasn't myself; who stood looking at another girl who also was and was not myself. My mother took this for a nightmare. I saw it as the beginning of a career in physics." One of my favorite Lutece lines. On another note, Booker, they _specifically_ told you not to pick #77. You idiot.
But what would have happened if he didn't? If he didn't he may not have "saved Elizabeth." I feel more they told him not to so that when he saw he did he'd realize he needs those two.
I always figured that the universe where he hadn’t picked #77 or even hadn’t participated in the racket at all was the one you visit later in the game where booker was a martyr to the Vox populi , since the racket event is what lead booker to getting exposed Sooner rather then later therefor leaving no time to plan anything
Fun fact, during the scene in 3:33 instead of taking her upgrade try hitting her with your melee, you won't actually hit her but she will taunt you like A LOT :D
I just realized. Practically every interaction with the Lutece's in the game demonstrate constants and variables. Constants: either one since they are the same being Variables: what they offer to you. It's pretty much the same person giving you different options or doing different things. At least, I think that's what it means ^^" Alternate universes are wack yo
This storyline was so good, it made me wish I could forget it and play fresh like the first time, but yes, playing again, you do realise how many things you missed.
Today in my class we performed some weird tally and being the last on the list i had the final vote. My vote tied three of the contenders to a draw. For some odd reason i got the feeling that this simple choice has now just changed the entire course of my life, I wonder what happened in the other realities...
The_Real_JDC I think because there was multiple realities or whatever you may call it, things change of course but one thing that never changed in any of the time lines is that booker doesn’t row when he’s in the boat.
@@TheRealJDC one of the themes of the story is “constants and variables” one of the constants is that in every reality the Lutece’s went to Booker dosen’t row. It’s a constant.
@@DStalnaker13 yea thanks man I get it now. It just seems like a really odd choice of wording. He puts emphasis on "row" and it doesn't help that row also means to argue so it sounds like he won't argue or something 🤣
@@DStalnaker13 it's probably that and the fact that the Luteces essentially perceive all of space and time from where they are, like cosmic omnipresent gods Kinda makes them seem Lovecraftian, doesn't it?
"Why do you ask 'what?'" "When the delicious question is 'when?'" "The only difference between past and present..." "...is semantics." "Lives, lived, will live." "Dies, died, will die." "If we could perceive time as it truly was..." "...what reason would grammar professors have to get out of bed?"
As an ESL teacher I must say their uses of the Simple tenses are wonderful. But what'll break people's minds even more is that the words we use to name things are arbitrary. What we call a chair in one universe could easily be called a desk in another. In fact, since all possibilities exist, it's likely there is a universe where that's the case.
@@skxlter5747 Basically what I'm getting at is that there's no real reason to call a table a table or a chair a chair. And different words for those terms exist in other languages. So there could be a universe where different words are used to describe the same things in English depending on how the language developed in that reality. One missed opportunity in this masterpiece of a game was having audio diaries from Robert after he crosses into Rosalind's reality. It would have been very interesting to hear what differences there were between his home reality and Rosalind's.
@@mish375But If the Multiverse is infinite, with a universe for each and every difference possible, then wouldn't it be not unreasonable that some universes contain only a small, tiny difference; just as there could be worlds with numerous differences? What if the reason we didn't hear about Robert Lutece's world, is because the only single difference was his female counterpart?
It was his idea to execute the "thought experiment". He felt guilty in helping to abduct Anna from our Booker, and so he conducted the experiment alongside Rosalind to put things right again.
@@H0NK3R5 Robert's mind adapted to the Comstock universe. I think it just shows some of the differences in personality they have. In other cases, he eggs on Rosalind and the two trade banter. Likely a personality thing.
@@mish375 Robert has less of an ego than his sister, and is a lot more thoughtful. The only reason the game’s plot happens is because he convinced her to help him stop Comstock and reunite Elizabeth with Booker. Rosalind was ready to jump dimensions and leave the world to burn, but Robert’s sense of responsibility prevented him from doing the same. She’s amoral, and only cares about the logic of doing something. He has a sense of morality, and thinks it’s worth helping people in need even if it doesn’t directly benefit him. All-in-all, he’s much more in touch with his humanity than she is, and that’s the biggest difference between the two.
@@DovahFett I think you misunderstand Rosalind. While they poke fun at her willingness to be in a grey area and she does have an ego, she does privately express guilt over what happened to Elizabeth as she and Robert truly wanted her to be happy. There are a few Voxophones that indicate this, especially one in Clash in the Clouds where she says that she hopes Songbird can be a better father to her than Booker or Comstock. She also left some of her books in Elizabeth's Tower for her to read, indicating that she wanted Elizabeth to get some kind of education and not be completely unaware of the world around her. Rosalind also expresses that she knows she's hypocritical when she judges Comstock because "I helped him build the stage". She carries a high degree of guilt that she tries to bury. However, the tragedy of Rosalind's character is that she was raised in a transactional society: one that used her for her genius but discarded her for being in a male-dominated profession. To assert control she threw herself into the sciences, but saw the world like the Cage: no free will and what happens will always happen. She is extremely repressed emotionally. One of the underlying reasons she didn't want to do the exercise in the first place is because it would mean that they would have to watch Booker and Elizabeth die repeatedly and those universes could not be saved. But they'd have to experiment until they got it right. And that happens at leat 122 times, which explains why Rosalind sounds angry when they appear. She did tell Robert that it will end in tears for that reason and she doesn't want to put either of them through that grief. But, Burial at Sea Part 2's boat scene definitely established that behind Rosalind's veneer of anger is actually sadness and grief at Elizabeth's choice to sacrifice herself. She simply has trouble expressing her feelings to anyone other than Robert. And the final Voxophone diary from Rosalind indicates that she's torn between becoming mortal again vs. remaining in a semi-immortal state. Rosalind simply sees everything as being doomed to fail and thus failing is an unnecessary cruelty to the DeWitts if they keep dying over and over again. Robert believes in some free will and that we can change our fates. So he sees the deaths as necessary to save as many universes as they can. Robert is chaos, Rosalind is order. Both are needed for success. They both bring out each other's good traits. Robert's influence brings Rosalind out of her shell and helps her connect with her human side, the one she tried to bury behind logic. In turn, Rosalind influences Robert by giving him more structure to work with and helps him think more logically. Like yin and yang they are both essential for balance. A final word though: it's established that Robert's guilt over Elizabeth having a rough life is what drives him. It pushes him to be more responsible and think of others. I think one of the reasons he gave Rosalind the ultimatium was because he knew how difficult trying to make things right would be. Bearing it alone would have been too hard on him, but he was willing to take the risk. I think he knew Rosalind wouldn't leave him as she loves him, which is why he did it that way. But he was still willing to risk it all if it meant Elizabeth could lead a happy life and they could undo their mistake.
"If the player decides not to draw Booker's weapon or does nothing at the ticket booth in Battleship Bay, the man behind the counter will stab Booker in his right hand. For the rest of the game, Booker will sport a hand-wrap with a small blood stain on his right hand. However, during certain animations, such as acquiring a new Vigor, his hand is shown without the wrap or the stab wound." - Bioshock Wiki
Good theory, but I believe the bird represents Elizabeth and the cage Comstock/The tower/Songbird. I don’t know which one exactly, but I think it’s most likely the tower.
I love all the small "wait what" details with them. Like when Rosalind is posing for a painting, and when the cart moves past the other side of the canvas you can see Robert is painting himself instead.
-Missed! Missed! Missed again! Another miss. And... a miss. -We can afford to do this all day. -The question is: Can you? Also, anyone else loves Booker's dry sense of humour? "Giant balloons?... So... Not giant balloons? ... I'll get back to you after I figure out the 'floating city' bit" Love him :)
Though it's funny how in the end, the cage is technically the opposite of captivity, since c. a. g.e. played on the flute were the notes to control Songbird, which took his control over her away. I just love how that twists the symbolism of the images.
I just realized something. Rosaline Lutece was the first one. She created the machine to open a tear into another universe, then she found a universe with her... or rather him, if in the chance that the variable in that universe is the single chromosome while the constant is their personalities and profession. It makes total sense!
@@serpentmaster1323 Yes. In the universes where Booker becomes Comstock, Lutece is a woman. In the universes where Booker refuses the baptism, Lutece is male. In any universe Lutece will always be a scientist, but his/her sex will differ. Also, without Comstock, there is no funding for Robert as a physicist, which is why Rosalind was able to get further with her work than her counterpart in the Booker universe.
Robert and Rosalind are more assholes than Doctor Q or Jack Sparrow. Really I hate those two bastards! It's all their fault; every bit of it; they chose to work for an insane racist, help buy a baby from a depressed and shell shocked Booker, led Booker to die, set up Daisy to die, and abandon Elizabeth to die in Rapture. Those two can go fuck themselves! I hope they enjoy their infinite limbo.
They all have such wildly different views of the Universe it would be fascinating to watch. Q clearly the most powerful - though I suspect his apathy would mean he wouldn't take the others seriously. The Doctor strangely the physically most grounded in this reality might give him a greater grasp on what was going on. Jack Sparrow - well would certainly have strange views on the Universe but I'm not sure how he'd defeat the others - though he does seem to know his way back from death - which is a neat trick! And the Lutece's whilst seemingly able to be anywhere and percieve anything would be able to give any of them a run for their money. I predict a stalemate!
Not many people will probably agree with me, but the Lutece's remind me so much of Rosencrantz and Guildenstern from Top Stoppard's play, "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead"
Yes, because they are part of the story but also outside it; although the Lutece twins are more like characters who managed to become readers, while Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are characters who become aware of their character status
Having replayed Infinite recently, I remembered that these two are probably my favourite thing in the game. Hilarious yet always slightly creepy. Charming yet ambivalent, you never know where they stand in relation two you exactly. Their dialogue ist brilliant, the voice acting ist top noch, they represent some fascinatingly complex ideas and with them there is always the feeling that something is very "wrong" with Columbia, that there are much bigger conflicts than the ones you directly participate in, and that they always know much more than anyone else, the player included. I was in the edge of my seat every single time these two popped Up.
aoibhealfae You are playing that game.... in another universe. The developers decision to make Elizabeth female and Booker male in theory created 4 universes.
Possibly, (most likely). I saw a very convincing theory in which the Luteces were twins, and one or the other was stillborn in different dimesions, if that makes sense. Then Rosalind became a megamimd genius physist and was able to meet Robert. I would provide a link, bu I was deep in Tumblr when I found it.
That little genius bit of wordplay at the beginning. "He doesn't row." "He doesn't ROW?" (as in, he doesn't row for exercise) "No, he DOESN'T row." (as in, Booker never offers to pick up an oar.)
Next time you play, after the line “Well at least they left the piano” look to your right and see Elizabeth staring at you with the most confused face I’ve ever seen.
The true beauty of this game is that you can play it as an FPS and enjoy it. But you’ll never understand how it ends. If you truly pay attention, you’ll realize the Lutece twins were telling you what was going to happen the entire time.
Robert is Rosalind from a different dimension, some different circumstance made it so that instead of being a girl, Rosalind ended up being a guy in another dimension, Robert. That's why they finish each others sentences, they're essentially the same person thinking the same things.
if you really think about it... robert was had so much heart, that guy was a genius his counterpart produced an atom that defies laws of physics, and the both of them turned into some kind of immortal time travellers, but he still wanted to fix things and help elizabeth.
These two are absolutely delightful. Elizabeth was a darling, but aside from her these two were my favourite part of the game. Interestingly enough, every time I hear these two speak I was reminded of the two Gophers (Mac and Tosh) from Looney Tunes.
Finally, I escaped the depths of ASMR BioShock Infinite and got here. Time to breathe in the fresh air and finally live. _Insert REALLY close sniffing all ASMR-like_
These guys are geniuses. Despite being in an allegedly fictional environment, the have isolated transdimensional theory and bent it to their will over a hundred years before anyone had given a shit in this world. While they haven't exactly downed all of the vocabulary that comes with it, they've done a better fucking job than the people of this today.
The Luteces represented science and logic, but that touch of whimsy that came with their appearances only made their part in BioShock all the more enjoyable. My favourite characters in Infinite by far.
I just finished this game again after 7 years and something I tried to do that I didn't before was actually try to shoot them and Rosalind just goes "Missed." and I shoot her again "Missed again." Man, I love these characters, they're the definition of "cheeky".
I just finished Bioshock Infinity for the first time and I loved the Lutece twins. I started looking forward to their appearance and I was always so happy when their musical theme started ^^
I finished the game no so long ago and when the game gives you the choice to choose between the cage and the bird, notice how Elizabeth moves the bird a bit more, also, it has a lot more lighting. This is going to influence you into taking the bird more often than the cage which hasn't moved at all and has a lot more shadow. Interesting!
I love these two so much. I don’t know why. Maybe it’s because of how coy they are, or how much fun it is to suddenly find them where you least expect but less we not forget that these two are, like the rest of the game, extremely well written and acted. Like, everything they say could be spun for a double meaning or a metaphor(bar a few lines, naturally) and yet they communicate the things that we essentially need to know perfectly: timey wimey wibbly wobbly stuff. I can dig into every nook and cranny of these two but I’ll just say this: I will NEVER get sick of them
They were based on my favorite Play Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead When i first played Bioshock Infinite I noticed how familiar they are to Rosencrantz and Guildenstern
This game was soooo underrated, and mostly forgotten about now 😢 This was my absolute favorite Bioshock game I just didn’t care that much for the ending 😅
OOHH "One goes into an experiment knowing one could fail" "But one does not undertake an experiment knowing one has failed" Are they talking about Booker about to go into this whole ordeal? Omg
To listen to his tapes, you would probably need to visit his dimension. In the dimension the player is in, Rosalind is the scientist and Robert doesn't exist.
Robert: "The answer is in the mind." Rosalind:"It depends if one already knows." Robert: "It depends on perspective and logic." Rosalind: What do you see from this angle?" Robert: "I see 2." Rosalind: "I see 0." Robert: "It's all a matter of choice." Rosalind:"Subtract." Robert: "Or Plus." Rosalind: "The answer would be the identical but not entirely." Robert: "Constant or Variable." Rosalind: "Subtract or Plus." Robert: "How would one know which one is the truth?"
Robert: "You didn't say what word." Rosalind: "You only said one word." Robert: "One needs the answer to find the answer." Rosalind: "The answer is one word." Robert: "But what singular word?"
Robert: "That is the problem." Rosalind: "There are an infinite amount of choices." Robert: "Although it is a pity that it is restricted to 4." Rosalind: "If there are infinite choices, they're all right." Robert: "But you gave us 4, hmm, shame." Rosalind: "And it wasn't simpler..."
I think the Lutece twins are my favorite characters in the game. They provide some plucky comic relief to the game.
+Jenny Armstrong I agree commander Ivanova xD
+Shinigamy Charly :)
And some of the darkest moments.
I actually really enjoyed them for the suspense and mystery they provide. Makes you wonder from very early in the game who are these guys and how can they move around like that
I like songbird but these guys are cool
They are the cheshire cat of Bioshock Infinite
+Holzkohlen
Also the G-man.
+SomeKindaSpy definitely Columbia's g-man
I think they are a reference to the play "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead" them being the titular characters. there are numerous references like the coin flipping always on heads
Good catch. "Now for a handful of guilders I happen to have a private and uncut performance of The Rape of the Sabine Women - or rather woman, or rather ...Alfred - (Over his shoulder.) Get your skirt on, Alfred"
Aidan M And what the fuck is that? Im not a smart person. Im just your average American gun loving Trump supporter in a sexual relationship with my sister living in a trailer. #Whitetrash
Lutece is the old name of Paris, which is the dream-city of Elizabeth
What an amazing reference...
Well thats settled. If i every become a omnipresent time traveler. Im going to go find a female version of myself and go screw with people.
and her?
Smooth
***** more like masturbation, since you are 99,9% the same (mind and body) minus that one chromosome..
twins are never the same, it is impossible to be identical to another person.
Rolf Reimer Andersen Unless you're these two
Kakazua Gagata wouldn't it be masterbation? kinda.
Booker: *stares blankly at the luteces, not blinking*
Rosalind: "this is becoming rather awkward."
If only people would use that on batman
Holy f*** i just noticed this
Remember how elizabeth flips the coin at you? You always catch heads?
You flip a coin at the start, landing on heads, it never lands on tails
Ever
+Heedfulconch3 woah, stop this game is already hurting my brain way too much, don't throw in more stuff lol
nope
I just noticed and all the heads that on the chalkboard is all the times he died and got heads again
Wut
Elizabeth?
As a little girl playing this game, I've always adored Rosalind and wanted to be her so badly I would often recite her lines out of the blue. Now as a college student, I'm majoring in Physics; studying quantum physics and particle physics. Oh, if only 12-year- old me could see me now.
That’s so cool.
It makes me happy that, in some small way, Rosalind might have led at least one more person to study particle physics. I hope you're journey amongst the forces and fields is a rewarding one.
I'm proud of you. :o)
She does see you. And doesn't. Heads or tails. Two perspectives.
Proud of you 8 months later
Though it's probably incredibly depressing in the long run, I'd love to teleport across time and space with my duplicate and mess with people.
They still have an eternity to find a nice dimension to settle undo it if they ever get bored/suicidal
love how he's just painting himself
I mean TECHNICALLY, he is painting her :^)
Not even that. It's an animatronic of him painting himself because whoever created the monument just knew how self absorbed he is lmao
"He isn't moving"
I lost it there. I don't know why, but I broke out laughing.
Two of the most interesting characters ever in a videogame
Vladimir Lenin and amusing :)
*One* of the most interesting characters ever in a videogame. Or Two of the most interesting character ever in a video game?
WhatPayne
I think they are both two people, and one person at once, if that makes any sense at all
Seth ノートン
It does(nt)! Turst me I would(nt) understand.
WhatPayne The whole, parallel quantum universes thing is hard enough to understand as it is
I love how she is posing so fancy with that apple at 11:38 and he is like "nah, woman, I'm painting myself".
+SirEriol It's amazing how he does it without looking
SirEriol I didn't even notice this. God I love these two
SirEriol He would be painting himself regardless, no?
Regalia physically yeah.
But he probably isn't painting himself, he's painting her. At least, if she looks at it, it's a picture of her holding an apple. 19:39 "Where he sees an empty page, I see King Lear"
Rosalind: Odd, isn't it ?
Robert: What's odd ?
Rosalind: The fact that we sometimes...
Robert: ... finish each other's sentences ?
Rosalind: Exactly !
Robert: It would be odder if we didn't.
Rosalind: Hm...
*BEST CONVERSATION EVER*
Rosalind: Odd, isn't it ?
Robert: What's odd ?
Rosalind: The fact that we sometimes...
Robert: ...
Rosalind: Finish each otheeers...
Robert: Sandwiches! It's sandwiches, right?
Rosalind: .... I was wondering why you didn't build a floating city. Mystery solved.
Robert: Hehe, I are so smart!
_Now_ it's the best conversation ever.
I see the inspiration for the song in Frozen which literately came out a year after Bioshock Infinite.
I’ve seen that comment before.
I JUST got to that scene reading this the timing XD
11:55
I like how they just love screwing around without a single care in the world.
well not a care in this world.
+Gaskin Foreman or any world for that matter
If you want to be even further impressed with the "Twins" look to the origin of the name Lutece. It is actually the name the Romans gave to the original settlement that grow to become Paris!
Furthermore the name refers to a marshy island in the middle of the River Seine that was the first outpost of the settlement. An island in the stream...the constant in the variable.
Who doesn't love the "Twins"?
wow just watching the Luteces's dig their own grave while calmly debating is so strange and I love it
Omg how did i not notice that??? Lol
5:55 -- The twins' voices don't echo or reverb when they speak.
They're THAT much outside of the times, man.
Wow good and an amazing detail for the audio team 😮
Good catch
They're like in their heads.
I just noticed Booker and Elizabeth’s voices were echoing and the Luteces’ weren’t. Cool find
**insert mind blown gif**
The Lutece twins are not 1+1, but 1×1
Jared Rodriguez and they equal 11.
How did you just blow my mind dude?
Also expressed as 1^2 (1 squared)
1+1=-1 ;D
Watching this after finishing the game just adds to how great this game is. Like that very first scene in the boat, at 1:00 Robert says that there's no point in asking Booker to row, Rosalind asks why.
Robert: Because he doesn't row.
Rosalind: He doesn't ROW?
Robert: No. He DOESN'T row.
That emphasis on the "DOESN'T" means they already asked for one of the previous Bookers to help rowing, and discovered he doesn't know how to row. Probably one of the Bookers screwed up while trying to row during that storm, and now they know they must not let him row.
Or maybe they mean he won't row because they, being time travelers of a sort, have seen that he doesn't.
row also means arguing
He doesn't row - He doesn't know. They are saying that currently the Booker doesn't know the plot of his significance whilst rowing to lighthouse to go to Columbia.
Yes, this. He just doesn't row, in any timeline
I offered up the same question/arguement in my own comment. I'm wondering if they really meesn rowing as rowing. Near the end of the conversation, their tones in their voices change. As if they are offering up secret innuendos for some inside joke only they know about. The male lutece is rowing. A man moving his hands up and down two stiff poles. saying the only other guy in the boat doesn't "row". Kinda transparent what is being said there. Booker Dewitt is straight, and male lutece knows this cause he tried with a previous dewitt and got nowhere.
15:10 I love how Rosalind describes sexual intercourse. "Errant act of carnality"... classic!
English is such a fun language. The Brits really came up with a variety of ways to say something.
That Lutece line "We are where we're needed." "And needed where we are." Applies to all of us in this dimension. This is because all dimensions sort of have a "pre-written" history" where we all do certain actions that lead us to somewhere new to do other actions. Actions cross actions. That is how dimensions work. The constant is being ourselves, but the variables being the actions/situations. This line also agrees with "everything happens for a reason." That is also why time travel sucks according to this theory. Since you change something that was supposed to happen, say a failed test, then you altered the pre-written history of this dimension and caused a tear in the space-time continuum. In short, everything happens to keep a dimension from crossing another dimension.
I have to admit, this game forced me to look at the world in a new way like few other games have.
During heads or tails, if you stuck around and just stood there, the Lutece twins will say a few witty comments to you, before Rosalind says (making fun of NPC dialogue loops) "If you continue to stand there, I'll be forced to repeat myself."
So we were playing the 143rd Booker Dewitt....
+TheMGSlow I reallt hope you didn't spend 10 minutes of your life counting all the sticks that were drawn in the board lol
It would be the 123rd.
24 tallies of 5 = 120 plus the three scribbled underneath the front equals 123.
+Jack Hiles well done with that math
heropon12 l Quick maths
I think it was more of a stab at the "constants and variables" multiverse possibility theme that revolved around Lutece. You just happen to prove that in some probable universe, a coin flip land on heads 120 times in a row. Extremely unlikely, but still possible.
Because Lady Lutece says she's surprised the Shield didn't kill Booker, and because this isn't their first go-around with sending Booker to kill Comstock, could it be that the Shield is what led to his success?
sandiego74 I think it might of been an integral part of it but I think it was the fact that it didn't kill him that altered the variables
sandiego74 WOW! A reply a year later! I don't believe that the shield was the defining variable. Based off of the coin flip the Booker you play as is the 123ish I believe iteration. If the first 122 died when given the shield they would most likely be forced to conclude that the shield killing him is a constant and not a variable and decide to find another way to help him along. Most likely a majority of the Bookers died but enough survived to show that it is possible for him to survive and that it gives him a distinct edge. Based off of this logic we can conclude that it wasn't strictly the shield that let him survive because more Bookers would have had it before him.
Or hey, maybe the Luteces are altering their formula for the shield between attempts trying to improve it and it is indeed what changed it.
TrueJunebug I think that the shield working was one but not the only condition for Booker to not die. Another could be 'old Elizabeth' giving him the notes to control songbird (i think she said something along the lines of 'songbird always stops you').
That indicades that all Bookers who survived the shield and maybe other variables/filters eventually died to songbird.
Could be wrong on that one tho ^^
It's a series of circumstances that don't kill Booker is what makes your version successful. It's not just the shield. Maybe even surviving the transportation of Booker to this 1912 or the launch being successful or not having your face grounded by the skyhook
A little late, but the dead man in the lighthouse is also a variable. The Luteces kill him so he cannot get the jump on Booker.
In the Luteces' house, they have a picture of the Lighthouse circled.
"When I was a girl, I dreamt I was standing in a room looking at a girl who was and wasn't myself; who stood looking at another girl who also was and was not myself. My mother took this for a nightmare. I saw it as the beginning of a career in physics."
One of my favorite Lutece lines.
On another note, Booker, they _specifically_ told you not to pick #77. You idiot.
But what would have happened if he didn't? If he didn't he may not have "saved Elizabeth." I feel more they told him not to so that when he saw he did he'd realize he needs those two.
I think he had to do everything he did to reach that final ending- it was the only reality where he could break the cycle
I always figured that the universe where he hadn’t picked #77 or even hadn’t participated in the racket at all was the one you visit later in the game where booker was a martyr to the Vox populi , since the racket event is what lead booker to getting exposed Sooner rather then later therefor leaving no time to plan anything
You can play the game. You don't get any other option then to pick #77
There are constants and there are variables...
Fun fact, during the scene in 3:33 instead of taking her upgrade try hitting her with your melee, you won't actually hit her but she will taunt you like A LOT :D
If you shoot they taunt you on missing a shot with "a missed miss misses" and both bother you on basically wasting ammo
“You missed 😒”
Robert: "We can afford to do this all day."
Rosalind: "The question is, can you?"
I just realized. Practically every interaction with the Lutece's in the game demonstrate constants and variables. Constants: either one since they are the same being Variables: what they offer to you. It's pretty much the same person giving you different options or doing different things. At least, I think that's what it means ^^"
Alternate universes are wack yo
Thats pretty much the entire theme of bioshock.
These two made the difference between a good game and a great game for me. Impressive characters!
"..And so I shall do my part, knowing it shall all end in tears." Tears... Or /tears/? These two were ridiculously clever.
Crais Bandicoot Tears as in crying, and tears as in the "portals" Elizabeth makes. Maybe😥
8:37 Elizabeth is just like, "What the fuck?"
11:43 She is posing, but he is drawing himself, lol. XD
@@NabilB_YT are they twins or just counterpicks
Because twin irl are thw same person male male female female or male or female
@@jakeystarsuper They're the same person.
JakeyStar 2020! The Luteces aren’t brother and sister, they are the same person from different dimensions.
He's drawing himself...but he's also drawing her.
He is drawing themself
They're personally my most favorite characters. They deserve their own game.
It amuses me how bad they both are at playing the piano.
LePonchoPenguin It wasn't "bad", but the wrong instrument with the right notes
Very true.
***** Bioshock is great that way.
This storyline was so good, it made me wish I could forget it and play fresh like the first time, but yes, playing again, you do realise how many things you missed.
Ah... of course... well at least they left the piano...
Today in my class we performed some weird tally and being the last on the list i had the final vote. My vote tied three of the contenders to a draw.
For some odd reason i got the feeling that this simple choice has now just changed the entire course of my life, I wonder what happened in the other realities...
Or: your arc is inexorable, but you royally altered their arcs.
"Why not?"
"Because he doesn't row."
"He doesn't ROW?"
"No, he DOESN'T row."
"Ah, I see what you mean."
Can you explain this please?
The_Real_JDC I think because there was multiple realities or whatever you may call it, things change of course but one thing that never changed in any of the time lines is that booker doesn’t row when he’s in the boat.
@@TheRealJDC one of the themes of the story is “constants and variables” one of the constants is that in every reality the Lutece’s went to Booker dosen’t row. It’s a constant.
@@DStalnaker13 yea thanks man I get it now. It just seems like a really odd choice of wording. He puts emphasis on "row" and it doesn't help that row also means to argue so it sounds like he won't argue or something 🤣
@@DStalnaker13 it's probably that and the fact that the Luteces essentially perceive all of space and time from where they are, like cosmic omnipresent gods
Kinda makes them seem Lovecraftian, doesn't it?
If i had a twin i would go all lutece-style-physics
"Why do you ask 'what?'"
"When the delicious question is 'when?'"
"The only difference between past and present..."
"...is semantics."
"Lives, lived, will live."
"Dies, died, will die."
"If we could perceive time as it truly was..."
"...what reason would grammar professors have to get out of bed?"
Why grammar professors specifically?
As an ESL teacher I must say their uses of the Simple tenses are wonderful. But what'll break people's minds even more is that the words we use to name things are arbitrary. What we call a chair in one universe could easily be called a desk in another. In fact, since all possibilities exist, it's likely there is a universe where that's the case.
@@mish375 so pretty much all things have a different name, same object but different name n such ?
@@skxlter5747 Basically what I'm getting at is that there's no real reason to call a table a table or a chair a chair. And different words for those terms exist in other languages. So there could be a universe where different words are used to describe the same things in English depending on how the language developed in that reality. One missed opportunity in this masterpiece of a game was having audio diaries from Robert after he crosses into Rosalind's reality. It would have been very interesting to hear what differences there were between his home reality and Rosalind's.
@@mish375But If the Multiverse is infinite, with a universe for each and every difference possible, then wouldn't it be not unreasonable that some universes contain only a small, tiny difference; just as there could be worlds with numerous differences? What if the reason we didn't hear about Robert Lutece's world, is because the only single difference was his female counterpart?
8:35 Elizabeth's Face XD
She's like, "The hell is going on?..."
That was mine
I love how Rosalind is the one making the snide remarks while Robert is quiet waiting patiently.
It's because it's her reality while he still needs to understand fully he's not in his original dimension
It was his idea to execute the "thought experiment". He felt guilty in helping to abduct Anna from our Booker, and so he conducted the experiment alongside Rosalind to put things right again.
@@H0NK3R5 Robert's mind adapted to the Comstock universe. I think it just shows some of the differences in personality they have. In other cases, he eggs on Rosalind and the two trade banter. Likely a personality thing.
@@mish375 Robert has less of an ego than his sister, and is a lot more thoughtful. The only reason the game’s plot happens is because he convinced her to help him stop Comstock and reunite Elizabeth with Booker. Rosalind was ready to jump dimensions and leave the world to burn, but Robert’s sense of responsibility prevented him from doing the same.
She’s amoral, and only cares about the logic of doing something. He has a sense of morality, and thinks it’s worth helping people in need even if it doesn’t directly benefit him. All-in-all, he’s much more in touch with his humanity than she is, and that’s the biggest difference between the two.
@@DovahFett I think you misunderstand Rosalind. While they poke fun at her willingness to be in a grey area and she does have an ego, she does privately express guilt over what happened to Elizabeth as she and Robert truly wanted her to be happy. There are a few Voxophones that indicate this, especially one in Clash in the Clouds where she says that she hopes Songbird can be a better father to her than Booker or Comstock. She also left some of her books in Elizabeth's Tower for her to read, indicating that she wanted Elizabeth to get some kind of education and not be completely unaware of the world around her. Rosalind also expresses that she knows she's hypocritical when she judges Comstock because "I helped him build the stage". She carries a high degree of guilt that she tries to bury.
However, the tragedy of Rosalind's character is that she was raised in a transactional society: one that used her for her genius but discarded her for being in a male-dominated profession. To assert control she threw herself into the sciences, but saw the world like the Cage: no free will and what happens will always happen. She is extremely repressed emotionally. One of the underlying reasons she didn't want to do the exercise in the first place is because it would mean that they would have to watch Booker and Elizabeth die repeatedly and those universes could not be saved. But they'd have to experiment until they got it right. And that happens at leat 122 times, which explains why Rosalind sounds angry when they appear. She did tell Robert that it will end in tears for that reason and she doesn't want to put either of them through that grief.
But, Burial at Sea Part 2's boat scene definitely established that behind Rosalind's veneer of anger is actually sadness and grief at Elizabeth's choice to sacrifice herself. She simply has trouble expressing her feelings to anyone other than Robert. And the final Voxophone diary from Rosalind indicates that she's torn between becoming mortal again vs. remaining in a semi-immortal state.
Rosalind simply sees everything as being doomed to fail and thus failing is an unnecessary cruelty to the DeWitts if they keep dying over and over again. Robert believes in some free will and that we can change our fates. So he sees the deaths as necessary to save as many universes as they can. Robert is chaos, Rosalind is order. Both are needed for success. They both bring out each other's good traits. Robert's influence brings Rosalind out of her shell and helps her connect with her human side, the one she tried to bury behind logic. In turn, Rosalind influences Robert by giving him more structure to work with and helps him think more logically. Like yin and yang they are both essential for balance.
A final word though: it's established that Robert's guilt over Elizabeth having a rough life is what drives him. It pushes him to be more responsible and think of others. I think one of the reasons he gave Rosalind the ultimatium was because he knew how difficult trying to make things right would be. Bearing it alone would have been too hard on him, but he was willing to take the risk. I think he knew Rosalind wouldn't leave him as she loves him, which is why he did it that way. But he was still willing to risk it all if it meant Elizabeth could lead a happy life and they could undo their mistake.
"If the player decides not to draw Booker's weapon or does nothing at the ticket booth in Battleship Bay, the man behind the counter will stab Booker in his right hand. For the rest of the game, Booker will sport a hand-wrap with a small blood stain on his right hand. However, during certain animations, such as acquiring a new Vigor, his hand is shown without the wrap or the stab wound." - Bioshock Wiki
This game loves picking at your brain doesn't it.
iGaze, Quite.
It loves to just screw it over, throw it around, tear it in half, the fix it with tape.
they’re so creepy, yet so loveable at the same exact time
Quantum superposition
the (B)ird or the (C)age? (Booker or Comstock)
Good theory, but I believe the bird represents Elizabeth and the cage Comstock/The tower/Songbird. I don’t know which one exactly, but I think it’s most likely the tower.
Creative idea.
I thought the cage meant that there is a cage to put songbird in if you choose the cage
You guys have good theories
Actually, I never thought about it that way, whoa
I love all the small "wait what" details with them. Like when Rosalind is posing for a painting, and when the cart moves past the other side of the canvas you can see Robert is painting himself instead.
THIS GAME CHANGED MY LIFE FOREVER I WILL NEVER SEE EVENTS ,HAPPENINGS, REALITY , NOR TIME THE SAME EVER AGAIN!
dolton kenway same here
-Missed! Missed! Missed again! Another miss. And... a miss.
-We can afford to do this all day.
-The question is: Can you?
Also, anyone else loves Booker's dry sense of humour? "Giant balloons?... So... Not giant balloons? ... I'll get back to you after I figure out the 'floating city' bit" Love him :)
11:20 - thank god Booker is as ignorant to physics and science in general as I am.. :(
...the girls is the flame that shall ignite the world...
Vilkku Same
Though it's funny how in the end, the cage is technically the opposite of captivity, since c. a. g.e. played on the flute were the notes to control Songbird, which took his control over her away. I just love how that twists the symbolism of the images.
I just realized something.
Rosaline Lutece was the first one. She created the machine to open a tear into another universe, then she found a universe with her... or rather him, if in the chance that the variable in that universe is the single chromosome while the constant is their personalities and profession.
It makes total sense!
yeah remember at the very start she says she dosent agree with the "exercise"
No offense, but a lot of people already figured that out, and it was pretty obvious if you really pay attention.
I think that one Lutece is a constant in all the universes or at least all the ones with Booker taking the baptism
It sounds like Rosalind is from the universe with Comstock where he takes the baptism, and Robert is from Booker’s universe where he doesn’t
@@serpentmaster1323 Yes. In the universes where Booker becomes Comstock, Lutece is a woman. In the universes where Booker refuses the baptism, Lutece is male. In any universe Lutece will always be a scientist, but his/her sex will differ. Also, without Comstock, there is no funding for Robert as a physicist, which is why Rosalind was able to get further with her work than her counterpart in the Booker universe.
I just noticed in the quote at the beginning, it credits the author as "R. Lutece" to make it so it could apply to either of them
Perhaps, it is both?
“Heads.”
“Tails”
Edge.
It's a troll-off: The Doctor, Q, Captain Jack Sparrow, and the Lutece Twins. Place your bets.
The Luteces would win. Simply because they can twist your mind more than any one else. And then be dicks when you can't get it.
Garrett B Ah, but you always end up getting it. It's all a matter of perspective.
Robert and Rosalind are more assholes than Doctor Q or Jack Sparrow.
Really I hate those two bastards!
It's all their fault; every bit of it; they chose to work for an insane racist, help buy a baby from a depressed and shell shocked Booker, led Booker to die, set up Daisy to die, and abandon Elizabeth to die in Rapture.
Those two can go fuck themselves!
I hope they enjoy their infinite limbo.
Q, no doubt.
They all have such wildly different views of the Universe it would be fascinating to watch. Q clearly the most powerful - though I suspect his apathy would mean he wouldn't take the others seriously. The Doctor strangely the physically most grounded in this reality might give him a greater grasp on what was going on. Jack Sparrow - well would certainly have strange views on the Universe but I'm not sure how he'd defeat the others - though he does seem to know his way back from death - which is a neat trick! And the Lutece's whilst seemingly able to be anywhere and percieve anything would be able to give any of them a run for their money. I predict a stalemate!
Not many people will probably agree with me, but the Lutece's remind me so much of Rosencrantz and Guildenstern from Top Stoppard's play, "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead"
Yes, because they are part of the story but also outside it; although the Lutece twins are more like characters who managed to become readers, while Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are characters who become aware of their character status
I love this comment
They remind me of the Gman...and Sans
Except that Lutece Twins have been given powers, thanks to Prof. Paradox.
@@SteviaCookiesLike the Q, or Puck, or even Prof. Paradox?
Having replayed Infinite recently, I remembered that these two are probably my favourite thing in the game. Hilarious yet always slightly creepy. Charming yet ambivalent, you never know where they stand in relation two you exactly. Their dialogue ist brilliant, the voice acting ist top noch, they represent some fascinatingly complex ideas and with them there is always the feeling that something is very "wrong" with Columbia, that there are much bigger conflicts than the ones you directly participate in, and that they always know much more than anyone else, the player included. I was in the edge of my seat every single time these two popped Up.
At the scene where they give you the elixir at the bar you can try to shoot them, makes for some fine dialogue.
A miss... and a miss...
I love them so much. The way they blend comic relief with crucial lore is amazing
"He doesn't row."
"He doesn't ROW!?"
"No, he DOESN'T row"
Oh god they're talking about like....multverse shit there. Right under your nose.
If these two don't win character of the year at the VGAs, I will be disappointed.
I love Jennifer Hale's accent in this game.
That's Jennifer Hale??
Soo...Is there a female Booker and Male Elizabeth?
Most probably.
Genderbend~ :D
WonderBunny I want to play that game....
aoibhealfae You are playing that game.... in another universe. The developers decision to make Elizabeth female and Booker male in theory created 4 universes.
Possibly, (most likely). I saw a very convincing theory in which the Luteces were twins, and one or the other was stillborn in different dimesions, if that makes sense. Then Rosalind became a megamimd genius physist and was able to meet Robert. I would provide a link, bu I was deep in Tumblr when I found it.
These two blokes are like the best part of the whole game
Only one of them is a bloke though.
@@C.I... what if she isn't? Theres a possibility.
@@Mr_Fancypants What's with the sus pfp
That little genius bit of wordplay at the beginning.
"He doesn't row."
"He doesn't ROW?" (as in, he doesn't row for exercise)
"No, he DOESN'T row." (as in, Booker never offers to pick up an oar.)
Next time you play, after the line “Well at least they left the piano” look to your right and see Elizabeth staring at you with the most confused face I’ve ever seen.
Spoiler!!!! From DLC: BURIAL AT SEA
THEY'RE BACK!!!! Just because everything ended with Booker and Elizabeth doesn't mean they're gone too!
I love how the telegram is just signed “-Lutece.”. It doesn’t matter if it was Robert or Rosalind, because they are both Lutece.
I love the music that plays during each encounter with the twins
The true beauty of this game is that you can play it as an FPS and enjoy it. But you’ll never understand how it ends. If you truly pay attention, you’ll realize the Lutece twins were telling you what was going to happen the entire time.
i thought Robert paint Rosalind, but he paint his self portrait hha
Abdal Sesari technically he was painting both her and himself at the same time
Technically, in painting Rosalind, it would still be a self-portrait.
My favourite pair of characters. This game holds such a special place in my heart.
Omg thank you so much for showing both sides' dialogue from the bird/cage choice; that's exactly what i came here for!
I don't know why, but the luteces remind me a little of happy mask salesman from Majora's Mask
A let's play channel featuring these two as the commentators would be absolutely amazing X'D
I never noticed that they had theme music before now. Huh.
strangely, i found that relaxing (and stressful) seeing them leaving right after you climb the ladder. that's a good detail.
Robert is Rosalind from a different dimension, some different circumstance made it so that instead of being a girl, Rosalind ended up being a guy in another dimension, Robert. That's why they finish each others sentences, they're essentially the same person thinking the same things.
if you really think about it... robert was had so much heart, that guy was a genius his counterpart produced an atom that defies laws of physics, and the both of them turned into some kind of immortal time travellers, but he still wanted to fix things and help elizabeth.
Although there are so many amazing characters with good development, these are my favorite.
These two are absolutely delightful. Elizabeth was a darling, but aside from her these two were my favourite part of the game.
Interestingly enough, every time I hear these two speak I was reminded of the two Gophers (Mac and Tosh) from Looney Tunes.
... Strange fellas aren't they?
At least they're British
It'sWhoopie! Not in reality, they are actually American.
Finally, I escaped the depths of ASMR BioShock Infinite and got here. Time to breathe in the fresh air and finally live.
_Insert REALLY close sniffing all ASMR-like_
Are you mentally stable
These guys are geniuses. Despite being in an allegedly fictional environment, the have isolated transdimensional theory and bent it to their will over a hundred years before anyone had given a shit in this world. While they haven't exactly downed all of the vocabulary that comes with it, they've done a better fucking job than the people of this today.
The Luteces represented science and logic, but that touch of whimsy that came with their appearances only made their part in BioShock all the more enjoyable. My favourite characters in Infinite by far.
I just finished this game again after 7 years and something I tried to do that I didn't before was actually try to shoot them and Rosalind just goes "Missed." and I shoot her again "Missed again." Man, I love these characters, they're the definition of "cheeky".
"We can afford to do this all day."
"The question is, can YOU?"
11:12 Them just doing random shit for the lols genuinely made me laugh my first time playing this game
I think when time is no longer an object and death a minor inconvenience, playing some Quantum Baseball just for kicks is the way to go. Lol.
I just finished Bioshock Infinity for the first time and I loved the Lutece twins.
I started looking forward to their appearance and I was always so happy when their musical theme started ^^
I just love the way they finish each other's sentence.
This game were made 10 years ago and still look much better than most modern AAA games.
No modern game will create a city beautiful as Columbia
6:22
"This is becoming rather awkward"
The luteces are the best characters in recent video game history.
You must've commented before timestamps were a thing on youtube.
6:22
Wow
0:02 When you fall asleep during math class and the teacher calls on you
I finished the game no so long ago and when the game gives you the choice to choose between the cage and the bird, notice how Elizabeth moves the bird a bit more, also, it has a lot more lighting. This is going to influence you into taking the bird more often than the cage which hasn't moved at all and has a lot more shadow. Interesting!
I love these two so much. I don’t know why. Maybe it’s because of how coy they are, or how much fun it is to suddenly find them where you least expect but less we not forget that these two are, like the rest of the game, extremely well written and acted. Like, everything they say could be spun for a double meaning or a metaphor(bar a few lines, naturally) and yet they communicate the things that we essentially need to know perfectly: timey wimey wibbly wobbly stuff.
I can dig into every nook and cranny of these two but I’ll just say this: I will NEVER get sick of them
“It would seem the universe does not like its peas mixed with its porridge” That line is always on my mind when something weird or odd happens.
They were based on my favorite Play
Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead
When i first played Bioshock Infinite
I noticed how familiar they are to Rosencrantz and Guildenstern
This game was soooo underrated, and mostly forgotten about now 😢 This was my absolute favorite Bioshock game I just didn’t care that much for the ending 😅
OOHH "One goes into an experiment knowing one could fail" "But one does not undertake an experiment knowing one has failed" Are they talking about Booker about to go into this whole ordeal? Omg
10:13 and it's because of that, the good ending in "BioShock 1" isn't a certainty.
Now question for everyone, if you met your opposite sex double in an alternate timeline, would you have sex with her?
***** Ewww, if your name was Lannister perhaps ;)
FluffyNinjaLlama wait, wha?
That is masturbation
***** No, would be awkward.
+rigren0121 Lol Lannister as in the incest twins from Game of Thrones.
Love listening to these conversations after completing the game and realizing they had all but spelled it out.
I wish we could hear the perspective from her brothers voice in the audiotapes
He doesn't record himself.
He doesn't record himself?
No, he doesn't record himself.
To listen to his tapes, you would probably need to visit his dimension. In the dimension the player is in, Rosalind is the scientist and Robert doesn't exist.
So.....Lutece Twins
What's "1+1" ??? And don't give me a bullshit answer.....
Robert: "The answer is in the mind."
Rosalind:"It depends if one already knows."
Robert: "It depends on perspective and logic."
Rosalind: What do you see from this angle?"
Robert: "I see 2."
Rosalind: "I see 0."
Robert: "It's all a matter of choice."
Rosalind:"Subtract."
Robert: "Or Plus."
Rosalind: "The answer would be the identical but not entirely."
Robert: "Constant or Variable."
Rosalind: "Subtract or Plus."
Robert: "How would one know which one is the truth?"
Answer it in 1 single word........."what's 1+1"
Robert: "You didn't say what word."
Rosalind: "You only said one word."
Robert: "One needs the answer to find the answer."
Rosalind: "The answer is one word."
Robert: "But what singular word?"
+David Warburton (DavePlays)
If I give you a multiple choice question will that be *SIMPLER!!??*
"what's 1 + 1"
A) 0
B) -1
C) 3
D) 2
Robert: "That is the problem."
Rosalind: "There are an infinite amount of choices."
Robert: "Although it is a pity that it is restricted to 4."
Rosalind: "If there are infinite choices, they're all right."
Robert: "But you gave us 4, hmm, shame."
Rosalind: "And it wasn't simpler..."