I can't listen to it because of the strat. I don't understand why most delay tests on RUclips are made with a strat. It has a clicky and really bright sound and all you hear in the delays is this clicky attack. I think a delay test should be done with a neck humbucker preferably. If you have any, I'll be happy to hear them.
I personally use the Timefactor live, i like the aux switch that you can use with it, you can set it up to use up and down on the banks and tap and i like that you can edit the parameters with catchup mode where you can see where the setting is stored and you can edit it from there. alot of people like the Timeline but i personally find the Eventide more user friendly
Thank you, i do comparison videos because i havent found any out there, so i thought it would be very useful for people to choose a product if they hear a side by side comparison :) yes its alot of work, it takes up alot of my time
Timefactor seems more musical to my ears - the original signal and the repeats sit better together. Timeline sounds fantastic as well but comes second, at least to my ears.
Jack Butler If you invest in a Strymon, it is more expensive and requires constant updates. They evidently put products out before they have been completed. It takes several updates just to catch up with the competition.
Just ordered the Eventide Timefactor when someone recommended the Strymon. I was worried there for a minute. The Strymon is really nice but the Eventide is just more musical to my ears. Hard to know how each would cut through in a live mix, where lots of subtleties are drowned out.
if you run in stereo u just dont regret it becouse the eventide is 2 delay in one and all the kind of delays that have give you the best sound even better that the strymon, the strymon have the option to run two delays but only digitals, the eventide have a lot more options, the strymon have more dsp but its innecesary
I have both. When I bought the Timeline I was expecting it to replace the Timefactor, but the Eventide simply has a much better Digital Delay, so I kept it purely for that. The Timeline does pretty much everything else better, the modulation is beautiful, but the digital delay isn't anywhere near as pure and clean as the Eventide.
hi you saying eventide is good in some way and somme of the presets is better than the other one ?? soo goin too buying them both is good idea?? what do you have been finding out from you playing whith those 2 boxes im asking because im looking fore one of thoose for my self soo your opinion is great for me thx hans
I sold the time factor, because on the fly, it wasn't anywhere near as easy to use. There are a lot in the eventide boxes, and with midi you can pretty much create millions of delays. BUTTT the time line just beat it. IF YOU HAVENT TRIED, get your hands on a space. THAT PEDAL IS ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL!
I've got the Timefactor, and I think, by looking at this video, that it takes a bit more tweaking than the Strymon might. Both sound incredible. I'd like to try the Strymon, but I've got the other two Factor pedals, and I'm not sure my OCD would permit having a different one...
The Tapedelay is much thicker and more realistic on the Eventide. However both do not come close to a Echoplex or a Dynachord Echocord S65/ Echolette Ng 51. If I have to choose I would go for the Eventide.
Just got the Timefactor, and I'm very content with my choice. I never played Timeline, but I'm not missing anything in the Timefactor. And I love how you can change things on the fly without diving into menus. Thanks for this comparison!
Once you test this in 2 channel stereo you will see how this is not even a contest. The timefactor has dual delays on all the algorithms, and you can easily mess with the note divisions on each seperately.
If you guys want to hear how the Strymon Timeline sounds recorded within a band mix, check out my band's latest original track 'Voices' at the link below, thanks!! soundcloud.com/eliliverpool/voices
In my experience, TimeFactor can output the exact same sound that you send to it. You can try by seting the delay to zero/none, mix at 100% and everything else to a neutral point. The modulation seems to be set to a nicer setting in the Strymon in this demo.
@6:30 just screams that explosions in the sky tone that people are always trying to mimic. Both pedals sound great and this demo is fantastic. I'd give the slight edge to the TimeLine but you probably can't go wrong with either here.
I own an Eventide, it's great! What I love a lot about it, beside the great amouth of parameters you can set, it's also the fact that you have a huge selection of "Tap divisions" or "time Signatures" (ranging from normal to odd ones), with which you can tap the delay tempo. And since now I still didn't find another delay pedal capable of this! I have a Line6 M9, which I use when I need a lighter setup and sometimes I miss the odds time signature the Eventide does.
Evantide is also a twin delay, meaning on any setting you can individually adjust the milliseconds and number of repeats for two separate delays. It doesn't seem the Strymon has that feature. The STrymon seems to have more delay options, I am a little disappointed in how few delay types the Evantide has available.
It doesn't have that feature on every machine like the Timefactor. However the Timeline does have a Dual Delay mode which can do this. For me, what puts me firmly on the Strymon side of this, is the analog dry path, the great analog and tape modes, and the ability to also produce a nearly identical repeat if you want to (also the preset changing is instantaneous).
And also the ability to bank up and down with your feet, without a secondary foot switch. I have owned both, needless to say the timeline is on my board and the timefactor is not :)
Bear in mind that the Eventide was released several years sooner. Actually a lot of the Strymon fx are "inspired" in classic Eventide effects. Anyway both are great. BTW in any mode in the TFactor you can also set the mix for each of the twin delays, si for instance in ducking delay you can have a compressor in a delay line that's not delayed and replaces the original signal and still have a regular delayed line... And mix in some dry signal if you will to achieve parallel compression.
For me, I couldn't live without the TF's dual delay freeze mode available at any time. That's also great with synths and rythm machines, to create poly-rythmic miniloops with tape saturation etc. Single delay freezing sounds way too boring and repetitive to me. But if it was going to be my first "big" delay pedal and haven't tryed none of them, I'd perharps go for the Strymon based on variety of sounds available. I'd feel a bit sult for opting for the "copy" instead of the pioneer though... :B
Some people mentioned liking that the Strymon and is more crisp and cuts better. I don't think you should consider this when picking one pedal. Your amp can make the Eventide brighter with the treble or presence knob. I think it is better to focus on which pedal has more options that you can use for your style of playing. The eventide is cheaper I think.
I think it still comes down to personal preference. The time factor has a warmer/vintage tone whereas the timeline is pristine/crisp. I still love both of em! Probably will end up goin with the time factor tho cause I dig that it's more straight forward.
Timefactor was the only delay pedal I had that didn't mush the sound of my dirt when on. The dirt was crisp and intact, and the delay was as present, and dark/bright as I wanted. Timeline seems to mush a but, as did my Dl4, and my memory man. Something about the Timefactor that really keeps the dry signal intact while the delay interacts with it in a great way. I guess the Timeline has its original sounds, but not that much different than a Timefactor. Had to sell it though, may get one in the future.
I have the Timefactor and I use it in killdry so the all digital path is a non issue for me. I do like the "truth" of the Timefactor on the repeats better. If It was my in front of amp pedal I probably would opt for the Timeline. That being said the Nemesis is on the way here to check out !....
I use the brilliant channel and all my tone settings are straight up, meaning in the middle facing 12 o'clock, its not a stock amp, i moded it a little bit so it sounds different than the stock one.
Get either and use em till the wheels falls off. No one will really care. I went for the Timeline, it's a little less coloured which is great for recording but I did love the Stymon too for that slight 'shine' their sound and yep, it looks way nicer than the grey/black 90's lookin brick I bought (where's my Chapman Stick?! ;) Expression pedal is essential kit for the Timeline BTW!
+madebythebird That's too bad... get it back,lol. I too contemplated selling my Timeline and BigSky to buy another Eventide H9 to match my H9 max but quickly changed my mind.The Eventide and Strymon work very well together love both for different reasons and applications. But honestly I do not use the Timefactor too much but maybe I'll dig a little deeper.
I have two timelines and a timefactor. I love all of them and use all of them constantly. If you have the money get one of each. Although the timeline is warmer, the timefactor has nice edge type delays so it's just a matter of personal preference. Great demo!
I thought both sounded great. I had a TF for a while and the tape mode is really nice. Agree that the TF's infinite repeat feature is great (especially with phased delay) and you can have dual delays for ANY delay type on the TF. Think the Strymon has the edge on tape sound, though the TF tape mode does sound very good (especially as you can use the dual delays to mimic a multi-head) A very good demo, thanks!
is it just me or this "heavenly" singing sound signiture of strymon is a bit annoying, it sounds nice for the first time, but I would say you can get over it quite fast. I wonder how it is made, with some sort of ADSR software modulation of effects
That's precisely what I like about Strymon effects. They are basically like an instrument more than an effect. The Big Sky for example is unmatched among reverb pedals when it comes to creating other worldly washes of stratospheric sound. That unique character that the Strymon's have is what will make these pedals classics still sought after in 25 years.
Agree. I started with a Strymon but it sounded digital and cold in the room to me. I really wanted to like it!Tried an H9 and haven't gone back (bought the max and then got a couple cores used).
timefactor all day...the strymon colors your sound, a good sounding color (i own a blue sky and a timefactor), but the timefactor gives you a cleaner crisper sounding digital delay, not to mention the dual delay modes on every type of delay setting. the strymon looks cooler and thats about it!
You are massively underrating the Strymon. I like the fact that it slightly colors the sound. That is something all legendary pedals do. It makes them recognizable among other pedals.
Heard, Thanks for the response. To each his own brother! Sounds like we are different sides of the fence! Glad there are people out there who care about gear like this though!
SHNOBEL let me ask u something Don't u any video bout VISUAL SOUND TAP DELAY , or at least can u tell me ur opinion bout that pedal ?? thanks byee good videos =)
Hey man. You've got some great videos on your channel! I was planning on getting a vox delaylab. But then I came across these two pedals as they have more functionality. I'm finding it hard to make a decision. Could you tell me the pros/cons of both by any chance? I appreciate your time man. Keep up the great videos!
Timeline for me ( in a close call ). the Eventide seems Thinner, & even More Digital. Both Phenomenal Pedals. On the Timeline can you have ( for example ) 3 Presets with Global Tap Tempo - across the 3 Selector Buttons ? ( so you don't have to Re-Tap ) when Switching Presets ?
I owned a Timefactor. Sold it then bought a Timeline. Now I sold the Timeline and em lookin' for a Timefactor. In terms of clarity and quality, Timefactor is
Both very good. I bought the Time Factor because it’s more hands on, one knob per function and dual delays throughout. Strymon sounds more “produced”, Time Factor better for expretimenting and glitch, which is what I like.
Too much people here are ignoring what the always available Twin Delays + the always available Freeze Switch of the TF allows you to do. I love both units.
Never tried the time factor, but the lack of pitch shifting//shimmer and the lack of a feedback loop for fx, and some other modes, make me lean to the strymon. However if you want straight forward clean repeats, the time factor and the dd-500 are probably better due to price/having a clearer repeat right out of the box. clearer repeats on the timeline will require messing with the grit/filter knobs, and maybe even cycling through almost every mode for a clearer repeat or just adding eq somewhere in your rig whether it be a pedal, your amp, or your guitar tone knobs. ( or processor like axe fx) the korg sd3000 has amazing analog repeat sounds
I could use both, they both have unique sounds, and also add the boss DD-20 and DD500. They all are great depending on what your preferences of sounds are.
It's my personal opinion but to me the Eventide is more vintage sounding, whereas the Timeline sounds more modern. Both are awesome delay pedals though.
i've been split between these two pedals for quite sometime... i like the darker sound of the Eventide and i'm trying not to jump on the strymon bandwagon as far as this type of pedal is concerned... i do like the sound of the El Capistan but this isn't the time and place for it... to be honest... i don't quite hear the audio difference expect a little audio jump between the TimeFactor and TimeLine... but that's just me...
With the outstanding quality of Strymon - how could they accept their tape delay to sound just like another digital delay? I pretty much prefer everything else about the Strymon but tape delay will be the deal breaker.
On that shoot-out the win goes to the TimeLive. The TimeLive for lack of a better word sounds more musical whereas the TimeFactor sounds overly processed.
actually delaylab does verb, but its like the old yamaha units used by shoegaze bands, nothing like the space or strymon. pitch can actually be used as pitch, phase as phase etc. thats what i like because my pedalboard needs serious shrinkage. its a real contender for 1/3 price
Es muy dificil poner en tela de juicio estos dos monstruos los dos tienen entradas midi el eventide tiene looper y un sonido increible no se si el strymon pero esos dos pedales ofrecen mas de lo que parece!! Son geniales!!!
I would say anything really! The space of course covers a lot, but i lost interest in the timeline, because its very reverb-like and those shimmer/ice sounds are covered...its got a hi-fi, thin-sounding perhaps quality that gets lost in mixes, and would like a fat dynamic delay, so went to the vox delaylab which is like this, has plenty extras but they are more like multi-fx than ambient settings on the timeline, it costs a lot less and the comparison demos i actually prefer its standard delays
for me: timefactor used but if buying new timeline. the timefactor can be found for 200$ on reverb. lol i say thats what i would do but i own neither of these.
I'll stick with my Belle Epoch and El Capistan delays these 2 are very nice but I'm more on the analog tape side, plus I didn't have to pay something equal to a damn down payment on a freakin car! 🎸🎵
Lol. Its amazing what the placebo effect can do to a persons hearing. This is not what a scope would show you. Eventide is known for a lot cleaner sound. strymon for the more wishy washy sort of ambience.
These beats and the Empress VMSD are all ridiculously close in terms of quality. For the price though I don't think i'll ever leave having two DD-# in series.
I have both. TimeFactor for me.
Why
Why? The reason?
I can't listen to it because of the strat. I don't understand why most delay tests on RUclips are made with a strat. It has a clicky and really bright sound and all you hear in the delays is this clicky attack. I think a delay test should be done with a neck humbucker preferably. If you have any, I'll be happy to hear them.
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Thanks ! I thought I was the only one thinking that !
I personally use the Timefactor live, i like the aux switch that you can use with it, you can set it up to use up and down on the banks and tap and i like that you can edit the parameters with catchup mode where you can see where the setting is stored and you can edit it from there. alot of people like the Timeline but i personally find the Eventide more user friendly
i cant afford either of these pedals so i dont know why i'm watching this.
Thank you, i do comparison videos because i havent found any out there, so i thought it would be very useful for people to choose a product if they hear a side by side comparison :) yes its alot of work, it takes up alot of my time
Soooooo thankful for this Shnobel 🥺
Pro tip : watch series at InstaFlixxer. I've been using it for watching loads of movies recently.
@Castiel Hamza yea, have been using InstaFlixxer for months myself :)
Timefactor seems more musical to my ears - the original signal and the repeats sit better together. Timeline sounds fantastic as well but comes second, at least to my ears.
They each excel at different things. I actually think the Strymon sounds more musical and organic but that's me
Jack Butler If you invest in a Strymon, it is more expensive and requires constant updates. They evidently put products out before they have been completed. It takes several updates just to catch up with the competition.
@@Astralwurksdk I think is exactly the opposite.. The natural beauty of being unique..
Just ordered the Eventide Timefactor when someone recommended the Strymon. I was worried there for a minute. The Strymon is really nice but the Eventide is just more musical to my ears. Hard to know how each would cut through in a live mix, where lots of subtleties are drowned out.
if you run in stereo u just dont regret it becouse the eventide is 2 delay in one and all the kind of delays that have give you the best sound even better that the strymon, the strymon have the option to run two delays but only digitals, the eventide have a lot more options, the strymon have more dsp but its innecesary
I have both. When I bought the Timeline I was expecting it to replace the Timefactor, but the Eventide simply has a much better Digital Delay, so I kept it purely for that. The Timeline does pretty much everything else better, the modulation is beautiful, but the digital delay isn't anywhere near as pure and clean as the Eventide.
hi you saying eventide is good in some way and somme of the presets is better than the other one ?? soo goin too buying them both is good idea?? what do you have been finding out from you playing whith those 2 boxes im asking because im looking fore one of thoose for my self soo your opinion is great for me thx hans
I sold the time factor, because on the fly, it wasn't anywhere near as easy to use. There are a lot in the eventide boxes, and with midi you can pretty much create millions of delays. BUTTT the time line just beat it. IF YOU HAVENT TRIED, get your hands on a space. THAT PEDAL IS ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL!
I've got the Timefactor, and I think, by looking at this video, that it takes a bit more tweaking than the Strymon might. Both sound incredible. I'd like to try the Strymon, but I've got the other two Factor pedals, and I'm not sure my OCD would permit having a different one...
The Tapedelay is much thicker and more realistic on the Eventide. However both do not come close to a Echoplex or a Dynachord Echocord S65/ Echolette Ng 51. If I have to choose I would go for the Eventide.
Just got the Timefactor, and I'm very content with my choice. I never played Timeline, but I'm not missing anything in the Timefactor. And I love how you can change things on the fly without diving into menus. Thanks for this comparison!
Once you test this in 2 channel stereo you will see how this is not even a contest. The timefactor has dual delays on all the algorithms, and you can easily mess with the note divisions on each seperately.
If you guys want to hear how the Strymon Timeline sounds recorded within a band mix, check out my band's latest original track 'Voices' at the link below, thanks!!
soundcloud.com/eliliverpool/voices
In my experience, TimeFactor can output the exact same sound that you send to it. You can try by seting the delay to zero/none, mix at 100% and everything else to a neutral point.
The modulation seems to be set to a nicer setting in the Strymon in this demo.
@6:30 just screams that explosions in the sky tone that people are always trying to mimic. Both pedals sound great and this demo is fantastic. I'd give the slight edge to the TimeLine but you probably can't go wrong with either here.
I own an Eventide, it's great! What I love a lot about it, beside the great amouth of parameters you can set, it's also the fact that you have a huge selection of "Tap divisions" or "time Signatures" (ranging from normal to odd ones), with which you can tap the delay tempo.
And since now I still didn't find another delay pedal capable of this! I have a Line6 M9, which I use when I need a lighter setup and sometimes I miss the odds time signature the Eventide does.
Evantide is also a twin delay, meaning on any setting you can individually adjust the milliseconds and number of repeats for two separate delays. It doesn't seem the Strymon has that feature. The STrymon seems to have more delay options, I am a little disappointed in how few delay types the Evantide has available.
It doesn't have that feature on every machine like the Timefactor. However the Timeline does have a Dual Delay mode which can do this.
For me, what puts me firmly on the Strymon side of this, is the analog dry path, the great analog and tape modes, and the ability to also produce a nearly identical repeat if you want to (also the preset changing is instantaneous).
And also the ability to bank up and down with your feet, without a secondary foot switch. I have owned both, needless to say the timeline is on my board and the timefactor is not :)
Nate then sell the timefactor, i like them booth the eventide have the twin delay that im looking for
Bear in mind that the Eventide was released several years sooner. Actually a lot of the Strymon fx are "inspired" in classic Eventide effects.
Anyway both are great.
BTW in any mode in the TFactor you can also set the mix for each of the twin delays, si for instance in ducking delay you can have a compressor in a delay line that's not delayed and replaces the original signal and still have a regular delayed line... And mix in some dry signal if you will to achieve parallel compression.
For me, I couldn't live without the TF's dual delay freeze mode available at any time. That's also great with synths and rythm machines, to create poly-rythmic miniloops with tape saturation etc. Single delay freezing sounds way too boring and repetitive to me.
But if it was going to be my first "big" delay pedal and haven't tryed none of them, I'd perharps go for the Strymon based on variety of sounds available.
I'd feel a bit sult for opting for the "copy" instead of the pioneer though... :B
Some people mentioned liking that the Strymon and is more crisp and cuts better. I don't think you should consider this when picking one pedal. Your amp can make the Eventide brighter with the treble or presence knob. I think it is better to focus on which pedal has more options that you can use for your style of playing. The eventide is cheaper I think.
I think it still comes down to personal preference. The time factor has a warmer/vintage tone whereas the timeline is pristine/crisp. I still love both of em! Probably will end up goin with the time factor tho cause I dig that it's more straight forward.
The Timeline can also get very dirty and analog sounding. You possibly haven't messed with it enough
Both are amazing. Eventide is stronger in some areas, but the Timeline for me has the better overall character and tone.
Timefactor was the only delay pedal I had that didn't mush the sound of my dirt when on.
The dirt was crisp and intact, and the delay was as present, and dark/bright as I wanted.
Timeline seems to mush a but, as did my Dl4, and my memory man.
Something about the Timefactor that really keeps the dry signal intact while the delay interacts with it in a great way. I guess the Timeline has its original sounds, but not that much different than a Timefactor.
Had to sell it though, may get one in the future.
Hi, great comparison! Which AC30 were you using and what pickups were in the strat? Thanks!
They coexist perfectly together
Please,
What do we ear? microphone in the room , Direct Out or Video camera microphone ?
Best
I have the Timefactor and I use it in killdry so the all digital path is a non issue for me. I do like the "truth" of the Timefactor on the repeats better. If It was my in front of amp pedal I probably would opt for the Timeline. That being said the Nemesis is on the way here to check out !....
I use the brilliant channel and all my tone settings are straight up, meaning in the middle facing 12 o'clock, its not a stock amp, i moded it a little bit so it sounds different than the stock one.
Get either and use em till the wheels falls off. No one will really care.
I went for the Timeline, it's a little less coloured which is great for recording but I did love the Stymon too for that slight 'shine' their sound and yep, it looks way nicer than the grey/black 90's lookin brick I bought (where's my Chapman Stick?! ;) Expression pedal is essential kit for the Timeline BTW!
your right about the expression pedal. I had my timeline since 2011 and just recently added the expression pedal....OMG!
Oh man, then I went and sold it… now you're making me miss it again!! Loved being able to midi clock that thing!
+madebythebird That's too bad... get it back,lol. I too contemplated selling my Timeline and BigSky to buy another Eventide H9 to match my H9 max but quickly changed my mind.The Eventide and Strymon work very well together love both for different reasons and applications. But honestly I do not use the Timefactor too much but maybe I'll dig a little deeper.
I have two timelines and a timefactor. I love all of them and use all of them constantly. If you have the money get one of each. Although the timeline is warmer, the timefactor has nice edge type delays so it's just a matter of personal preference. Great demo!
I have both now too! real happy with them
I thought both sounded great. I had a TF for a while and the tape mode is really nice. Agree that the TF's infinite repeat feature is great (especially with phased delay) and you can have dual delays for ANY delay type on the TF. Think the Strymon has the edge on tape sound, though the TF tape mode does sound very good (especially as you can use the dual delays to mimic a multi-head) A very good demo, thanks!
is it just me or this "heavenly" singing sound signiture of strymon is a bit annoying, it sounds nice for the first time, but I would say you can get over it quite fast. I wonder how it is made, with some sort of ADSR software modulation of effects
That's precisely what I like about Strymon effects. They are basically like an instrument more than an effect. The Big Sky for example is unmatched among reverb pedals when it comes to creating other worldly washes of stratospheric sound. That unique character that the Strymon's have is what will make these pedals classics still sought after in 25 years.
And I'd take the Eventide Space over Big Sky for just the Blackhole preset. Space is the ultimate ambient, otherworldly sound for me.
Agree. I started with a Strymon but it sounded digital and cold in the room to me. I really wanted to like it!Tried an H9 and haven't gone back (bought the max and then got a couple cores used).
I'm torn between these two pedals. They both sound fantastic. Which one would you say is the most user friendly?
Both sounds great. I bought TimeLine and i'll stick with it... i didnt even set up 30% of it yet :D
timefactor all day...the strymon colors your sound, a good sounding color (i own a blue sky and a timefactor), but the timefactor gives you a cleaner crisper sounding digital delay, not to mention the dual delay modes on every type of delay setting. the strymon looks cooler and thats about it!
You are massively underrating the Strymon. I like the fact that it slightly colors the sound. That is something all legendary pedals do. It makes them recognizable among other pedals.
Heard, Thanks for the response. To each his own brother! Sounds like we are different sides of the fence! Glad there are people out there who care about gear like this though!
time factor sounds thicker compare to timeline
I like the Strymon's UI and the overall design of the pedal. Both are gorgeous Delay machines, nevertheless.
Awesome demo...its really really tough to compare these two. They both sound killer.
I gonna give the Timeline a +1 for its user friendliness.
SHNOBEL let me ask u something Don't u any video bout VISUAL SOUND TAP DELAY , or at least can u tell me ur opinion bout that pedal ?? thanks byee good videos =)
As for funtionality and usablility, i.e. switching presets and banks, which did you prefer?
Hey man. You've got some great videos on your channel!
I was planning on getting a vox delaylab. But then I came across these two pedals as they have more functionality. I'm finding it hard to make a decision. Could you tell me the pros/cons of both by any chance? I appreciate your time man. Keep up the great videos!
Timeline for me ( in a close call ). the Eventide seems Thinner, & even More Digital. Both Phenomenal Pedals. On the Timeline can you have ( for example ) 3 Presets with Global Tap Tempo - across the 3 Selector Buttons ? ( so you don't have to Re-Tap ) when Switching Presets ?
Timefactor sounds better overall imho
The VOX is a bit cheaper then both so I'd like to know how they compare. The Timeline sounds amazing though
I owned a Timefactor. Sold it then bought a Timeline. Now I sold the Timeline and em lookin' for a Timefactor. In terms of clarity and quality, Timefactor is
Thanks for doing the vid, which do you prefer?
love these videos, just wondering if this is your full time occupation, so much time and so much equipment, nice gig!!!!
Both very good. I bought the Time Factor because it’s more hands on, one knob per function and dual delays throughout. Strymon sounds more “produced”, Time Factor better for expretimenting and glitch, which is what I like.
Too much people here are ignoring what the always available Twin Delays + the always available Freeze Switch of the TF allows you to do.
I love both units.
Why the Timeline's tone knob always set down during this test?
Never tried the time factor, but the lack of pitch shifting//shimmer and the lack of a feedback loop for fx, and some other modes, make me lean to the strymon. However if you want straight forward clean repeats, the time factor and the dd-500 are probably better due to price/having a clearer repeat right out of the box. clearer repeats on the timeline will require messing with the grit/filter knobs, and maybe even cycling through almost every mode for a clearer repeat or just adding eq somewhere in your rig whether it be a pedal, your amp, or your guitar tone knobs. ( or processor like axe fx) the korg sd3000 has amazing analog repeat sounds
I like both, each have their own special sound
what is your opinion on using these with high gain?
which if any is just "better" for high gain.
Subjective I know.
I could use both, they both have unique sounds, and also add the boss DD-20 and DD500. They all are great depending on what your preferences of sounds are.
It's the 8-bit vs 24-bit difference for me... The TimeFacter is going to a bit noisier...the same as Space compares to BigSky...
I also have the space.. and I'm also looking for a delay.. what is the best combination with the eventide space, in your opinion?
Eargasm.; Both of them. But i dream with the TimeLine.
which of the two did you prefer.
Its a year 2000 TB/6 with blue speakers, upgraded Mercury Magnetics Transformers
It's my personal opinion but to me the Eventide is more vintage sounding, whereas the Timeline sounds more modern. Both are awesome delay pedals though.
Does the Strymon have something like the freeze feature of the Eventide?
I own the TimeFactor and it is AWESOME.
Timeline sounds great though.
i've been split between these two pedals for quite sometime... i like the darker sound of the Eventide and i'm trying not to jump on the strymon bandwagon as far as this type of pedal is concerned... i do like the sound of the El Capistan but this isn't the time and place for it... to be honest... i don't quite hear the audio difference expect a little audio jump between the TimeFactor and TimeLine... but that's just me...
Any loss in lowend signal when going through either delays?
I own both and I have to say I prefer the Timeline. It is way more user friendly and just sounds amazing.
These two are the best. Quite hard to say which one is better. Timefactor is brighter and Timeline is warmer.
Eventide eats Strymons for breakfast :-)
With the outstanding quality of Strymon - how could they accept their tape delay to sound just like another digital delay? I pretty much prefer everything else about the Strymon but tape delay will be the deal breaker.
On that shoot-out the win goes to the TimeLive. The TimeLive for lack of a better word sounds more musical whereas the TimeFactor sounds overly processed.
actually delaylab does verb, but its like the old yamaha units used by shoegaze bands, nothing like the space or strymon. pitch can actually be used as pitch, phase as phase etc. thats what i like because my pedalboard needs serious shrinkage. its a real contender for 1/3 price
how much money do they cost?? I mean which one is more afflordable??
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thank for ur reply
I can't help but feel as though the Strymon does not color the tone in any way, where as the Eventide is a bit boxy in the feedback.
el capistan And eventide space With a , Timeline or TimeFactor ? Need Help ! ?
Its my impression or the timefactor is much darker than the timeline?
would get the timeline if i could afford it. Seems like the TF is the next best thing and cheaper. Great demo thanks!
Great video! I would love to hear the difference with more modes.
If you're on more of a budget though the TC flashback x4 is an excellent choice.
Eventide sounds less digital to me and sounds more realistic for tape echo sound.
Es muy dificil poner en tela de juicio estos dos monstruos los dos tienen entradas midi el eventide tiene looper y un sonido increible no se si el strymon pero esos dos pedales ofrecen mas de lo que parece!! Son geniales!!!
it seems like its easier to get an agreeable sound with the Timeline. like just more flattering.
And any twin delay mode?
Thanks!
Both great but my Space and Timefactor sends me to a happier place. Both keepers. I sold my Strymon.
I would say anything really! The space of course covers a lot, but i lost interest in the timeline, because its very reverb-like and those shimmer/ice sounds are covered...its got a hi-fi, thin-sounding perhaps quality that gets lost in mixes, and would like a fat dynamic delay, so went to the vox delaylab which is like this, has plenty extras but they are more like multi-fx than ambient settings on the timeline, it costs a lot less and the comparison demos i actually prefer its standard delays
before you buy another pedal? :)
Yest they are, Thanks
eventide is ahead of its time in sound...we're not ready for that pristine brightness
for me: timefactor used but if buying new timeline. the timefactor can be found for 200$ on reverb. lol i say thats what i would do but i own neither of these.
can you do a full demo of your amp?
Everyone here saying that the Timeline is "warmer" than the Timefactor, need to have their ears checked ... ... :S
I'll stick with my Belle Epoch and El Capistan delays these 2 are very nice but I'm more on the analog tape side, plus I didn't have to pay something equal to a damn down payment on a freakin car! 🎸🎵
I preferred the timeline to the timefactor. I've owned both. Both great though.
Timeline is very transparent, Timefactor colors and muffles your tones a little. I love my tone unaltered so Timeline for me.
Lol. Its amazing what the placebo effect can do to a persons hearing.
This is not what a scope would show you. Eventide is known for a lot cleaner sound. strymon for the more wishy washy sort of ambience.
In this demo the eventide kept more kept much more of the timbral detail of
the mids.
They both sound sweet. I say TimeFactor, cheaper. With the money saved you can invest in a Strymon Mobius.
the point is they are stereo delays and this is in mono
+Josh Simons not necessarily.
Josh Simons i use eventide in a stereo rig... best over strymon in stereo
The Timefactor sounds pretty natural and the Timeline offers fewer features by the price it costs.
Until the timeline can have kill/dry AND adjustable line level (for my amps fx loop) my timefactor isnt going anywhere
Thee best delays out, great demo
I find the Eventide much brighter and the Strymon sounds a bit more spacy... Both great units though!
That Timeline.
These beats and the Empress VMSD are all ridiculously close in terms of quality. For the price though I don't think i'll ever leave having two DD-# in series.