Can the Door Handles Break Through Ice? | Hyundai Ioniq 5 | Kia EV6 | Genesis GV60
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
- The door handles on the Hyundai Ioniq 5 are flush mounted and depending on where you live in the world, they may automatically present themselves to allow entry. What happens if you get a layer of ice built up on it from freezing rain?
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0:37 Heavy Ice
1:52 How much needs to be removed
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Do you think it would help to remote start the car and have the heater on full power for a few mins may just be enough to free the doors just a thought .
Somebody else asked that on Facebook, I'm going to re-ice it and see if that has any effect. I doubt it will as there's no way other than conduction for heat from the cabin to get to the handle which is already behind the entire door panel. I'll report back.
I may be feeling that the driver and driver side passenger handles might be ever so slightly warm from an internal resistive heater not from blown air from the cabin. Definitely going to try freezing those as well and see if they only did it on the driver's side if at all. Could be warmth from the sun hitting that side of the car.
Wonder if de-icer would be work? I don't think I'll be carrying a hair dryer to work, esp. with no way to plug in.
The only way that would work is there were warmers in the door handles, and that would probably be worse then melting snow becomes ice.
I have never seen a car thats the outside of the cars body is melting snow, unless the hood after stopping, and thats real big heat, and less instlation between heat engine and ice.
@@tabithafineberg4454 Maybe a use for the V2L adapter... Not a dealbreaker for my EV6 preorder, but still disappointing to see. I've seen video clips of Tesla owners with ziploc bags full of warm water thawing their handles.
Seriously thx alot for doing all those tests and giving those tips ! Its really helpful ! Cant wait to get my ioniq later this year
note to EV makers with pop out handles/doors...add door jam or door handle defrosters. either as an automatic feature below a certain temperature or a feature to turn on during remote start up
a poorman's quick fix for this is, if you know its going to snow or freezing rain while it is parked, to stick on some fabric, or piece of tarp over the door handles with a magnet so that it doesn't get snow or water in/on the handle then freezing.
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hi simply press the unlock button on the key fob. then press it again and hold it for a few seconds. the front windows will open. then open the door from inside the car.
I carry a can of lock deicer windshield deicer spray. I keep it in my Chevy Bolt that has ordinary handles but my charge port fills with snow then freezes. A 10 second spray and it clears right up.
Love your channel! Thanks for these videos! Can I make a request? Do you know anyone that has 20 inch wheels on their ioniq? If so, a comparison on bad roads with your 19s would be a great test
Here in Scandinavia we poor a cup of lukewarm water on the door and it unlocks. Not a big deal
exactly ...
But it stumped 4 year olds. Good thing they don't drive.
That's with any lock and doors, I was stuck outside my Telluride because it's frozen solid. This can happen to any vehicle. Tip for anyone pour hot water from the tap in a Ziplock bag and rub it on your door lock to dissolve the ice.
I've never not been able to get into my car due to ice in all the years I've lived in the northeast.
@@sinister_lefty cool story, bro!
Your individual real world experience is not the end all be all of real world experiences!
I also live here and this has happened to multiple of mine (and my sister's) vehicles multiple times. and it doesn't go below 0 here.
@@bigpasto flush door handles are still way worse than traditional ones in this regard (same for Tesla's) seems like even a small amount of water freezing behind the handle can lock it pretty badly. when my handles are locked with ice it give them a quick pull and ice snaps.
@@bigpasto great story guy! I do worry about your and your sister's upper body strength if you can't open a "traditional" car door with a bit of ice on the handle. One quick pull and it's open. Maybe I should have said "I've never heard of anyone having this issue in all the years I've lived in the northeast" instead. People up here love to complain about anything relating to the weather so pretty sure I would have heard about it.
Disclaimer: this is my personal experience, beware!
yes
Thanks for the video this was very useful
nice video corbin!
Wow! Great review. Seattle this will be a problem for sure in the winter time.
Great video!
I have a 2022 Ioniq hybrid and this winter my gas door froze shut several times, wasn’t the end of the world but an inconvenience nonetheless. I tried applying some lubricant around the edges but it’s just a temporary fix and would have to be applied right before a freezing moisture event or I would just have to leave the door open.
Great video! i have waited for someone on YT todo this. I thougt senario two was possible to press and get the handle out. The second test seem more likely, that the water pours down, not get sparayed in behind the door handle.
We noted that air seeps out the handles when you remotelly condition (pre-heat) the car. That would probably help in thawing any ice. I got my car yesterday so I wont know for sure until next winter.
Using spray in dpots like that helps a lot, door gasket also.
Thought for sure you were gonna' pack a little snow on there.. being more likely. Great "what if" tho. Thanks for sharing!
So glad I have a garage for my Ioniq baby.
Good video. I wonder if the doors have the ability to pop open in some way. I thought the second time you did it the handles would pop out no problem but I guess since the ice is getting in the housing that would make it hard for them still. A little concerning the didn't just go back in when locking.
The second test you ran is more realistic since rain would run over that belt line fold, and not spray itself into the handles.
'more realistic' depending on where you live....I am in Canada, the 1st test was as real as it gets.
@@multivisao it rains from the ground up in Canada? Weird. You would think that would have been more widely reported.
Paul, I don't follow the point you're trying to make. Water was allowed to run down the body panel as if it were rain. The fold does nothing to prevent rain from running down the sheet metal due to surface tension.
A bit of water and off you go. Lol
I use a magnetic “hoodie” over the drivers door on days/overnight it might freeze rain. It’s the same charging hoodie that I use over the charging door and cable when the car is charging overnight
Now we got a door handle coldgate. Wonder if it could preheat.
Even I have issues with my Chrysler Pacifica sliding doors and side mirrors. The manufacturers should consider these aspects when they design the cars as they get frequently updated with newer technology and with newer problems
Great video! How is the headlights? hear they were okey, but led bar can be interesting if you travel a lot in winter i heard.
They're alright. They don't turn into corners which I miss from my old car. Auto high beams work well.
I didn't think about ice behind the door handle as I assume pressure to the right side of the door handle would be enought to pop it open manually. I like the ideas people had to heat the car up on the inside to see if that would help. I still see having to do it manually since there's not a lot of pressure from the automatic door opener function.
Get the tech spec below it, it is the same handles, but without the motors in them. Meaning you have to manually push and open them :). Simple often is better! :). Aka, keep wiggling until it gives :P.
Have you tried a test with RainX or ceramic coating? I would try the latter, it might shed the water enough not to build up
The car's been waxed with turtle wax hybrid solutions ceramic coating
I have seen some cordless hair dryers on Amazon it might be good to carry something like that with you when you travel to cold places.
A bottle of water
I guess that’s one of the use of the V2L plug: to drive a hair dryer.
Haha
Unless that door is frozen too
I have pre-ordered the ioniq 5. Living all these experiences and tests you make through your videos. love all your testing...
I'm sad to see that the car frozen shut from ice will be a challenge to get in... I live in Montreal Quebec Canada... I have a feeling ill be using hot ziplock bags to defrost the doors.... Compromising... 😜
IONIQ 5 has V2L, so if you have a hair dryer in your car, you can deal with all situations.
Even frozen wipers can melt easily by that
It's a good tip to have a hair dryer, because EV don't have engine heat
@@pstarke1066 don't think I'm going to use a hair drier in public for this... 😜
also make sure you will bring a bootle of alcohol, the rear hatch will get dirty often and will be unusable....
@@multivisao what do you mean unusable?😵💫
gues this is where the VTL adapter comes in handy 🤣
innovate heated door handles with short burst of 200°C. it can also be used as a security feature when you dont want someone to get in. it can also be used for cooking eggs.
you can't have "burst of 200°C." you could dump a lot of heat through the handle with a resistor but giveguven that everything around the handle is also at below freezing temperature, it takes a lot of time to beat all this thermal inertia plus the fact that melting ice requires a lot of energy. it's like asking an electric kettle to vaporize all the water inside instantly. even a small amount of water will take a while even though it's around 2kW
So glad I love in Cali 😍
Could you press and hold the unlock button which will make the windows all come down and open the door from the inside?
That's a great idea!
i would think in snow you maybe fine as I would hope nothing gets behind the handle to freeze it shut there but if rain falls and it gets cold could be a problem
this. everyone freaking out is bugging
If not cleared off upper door areas, snow will get behind the handles & they won’t close flush. You just have to be a bit more vigilant in the winter. Not a major hassle.
Great Video - Be Careful using the remote because if you try to open it and it does not open the motor is stalled and could be damaged, so be sure to lock it again so its not engaged. Quick question if a car does not have electric handles can it be installed aftermarket?
Lol
That style of door handles are the high heels of door handles, they may make you look good but they are not functional at all. I don't know why they are being adapted. For what 2 percent less drag?
New option for cars uses this style of door handle.... Battery operated hair dryer. Alternate is a fluid we carry around inside us at 96F. This is just silly design stuff meant to impress.
Uhh just old school it… growing up in northern Canada (even before EVs) i have always carried ice melter in a small spray bottle.
Cars in the 80s/90s were notorious for breaking in ice.
Remember the GM “W” body coupes, Grand Prix, Regal, Cutlass Supreme? Those pillar-mounted door handles would freeze & at times, would even break, making entry quite a challenge.
Like the car, and want one, but looks like something that could happen when you get back to the car after skiing.
Interesting but that happens to all vehicles. I keep a can of deicer in my closet. Ice sucks more than snow. Good video. I expected those to have extras issues
What if it happens while you're at work?
What kind of door handle do you have that this happens to? I've never had that issue with my car, and it has what I believe are the most common style of door handle, that you grab and just pull straight out.
@@itsjustacomment454 I carry two cans in my car along with washer fluid, oil and battery cables. Among other things for emergencies
@@sinister_lefty It mainly is water soaking into the door seals and gaps, freezing and expanding. A couple sprays usually weakens it enough to get it the door open
@@jimhall3810
If the deicer is in your car, and the door freezes with it in the car, what's the point of having in in the car. I'm legitimately asking.
Sometimes my gas door won't open due to ice. Going along the edges with my credit card usually takes care of that. No wonder my credit cards often don't tap right! Lol
Now, you should habe a deicer spray available in your trunk, always in winter times ;-)
😃new use for the vehicle to load adapter and a hair dryer
you can use the hairdryer from your V2L
😂 I love this car! However, I'm sure Hyundai's response would be that people should use the vehicle to load feature to run a hairdryer.
They should offer heated door handles as winter package
"Hey boss, sorry, I cann't go to work today, my car is frozen."
:DDDDDD
Does anyone think we should be concerned about the motors in the door handles burning out from trying to open when they couldn’t? Could that create problems in the future? I’m just curious.
Hey man! Great job with the vids. I’m still very much sold on the I5 but knowing it’s shortcomings ahead of time can help alleviate a lot of the problems. It’s a first year model and will come with problems that will probably be sorted out in the future but until then I appreciate your efforts. Thank you!
In a Tesla, you can set whether you want autofold or not. I turn it off in the fall, and back on in the Spring. So that there is no autofold in the winter. I wonder if the ionic 5 has a similar setting?
@@petersilva037 yes it does as displayed in a promotional video :) you can decide to auto fold open upon proximity. Or have that turned off. Driver and passenger doors or driver only! 🤌🏻
@@archerr86 Thanks for this info. I appreciate it.
Just hold the door unlock button down for a few seconds. Now reach in and open the door.
Be grateful that your ioniq has the auto door handle pop out feature. Hyundai have for some reason disabled this functionality on uk spec cars. Do you have the ability to remotely heat the car ready for use and would this have helped with the handles ?
Im thinking silicone spray. Just like on all other cars.
Well luckily the vehicle does VTL so you can put in a hair dryer outside 😂😂😂
Is that the Digital Teal on your Ioniq? Looks sharp!
It sure is! Best color available
@@TheIoniqGuy I only wish it was available with the black interior! Not a fan of light colored interiors. I've had them, have never liked them. They're a nightmare to keep clean. It's not like they can't do it. Makes zero sense that is not an option, based on paint on the outside. Crazy.
I'm pretty sure it is, I think they're just harder to find.
@@TheIoniqGuy only option showing on the build site (at least in Canada) is the grey/teal on the top trim. Maybe they have it on the base trims. I was only looking at our equivalent to the Limited though. (Preferred AWD LR with Ultimate package)
Ohhh I didn't realize you were in Canada. That's too bad. I know it's available here in the US with black interior
Knowing that the average temperature of winters in South Korea is -6° C (22° F).
If I was in a safe neighborhood I would just the doors unlocked
hi simply press the unlock button on the key fob. then press it again and hold it for a few seconds. the front windows will open. then open the door from inside the car
That’s a great suggestion!
Too easy, try again.
Something the "The IONIQ Guy"
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should know.
Open the door from the inside? You mean I have to climb through the window. LOL
no it means once the window is open then stick ur hand into the open window and open the door from the inside door handle
A manual press has been enough for my car this last winter.
I like the regular old traditional handle
One thing I liked about the ID.4 when I spent some time with it was the fact that it had more normal recessed handles that wouldn't suffer from this issue. They also had an LED light in the handle so you could find it easily in the dark.
At least it's only the door handles and not the door handles and windows like a Tesla Model 3.
Lucky you have vehicle to load and you can keep your hairdry in the frunk
I see why we have grab door handles these days.
손잡이가 열려 있는 상태로 차량이 잠궈지는 것이 필요하다
ICE
Can you test Tesla the same test?
Teslas will freeze also. This is a known scenario. Preheating the car usually mitigate this condition.
I really don't care if I loose range because of this design
Pour your morning coffee on it.
They shouldn't make cars handle hidden or have some heated car door handles.
Man versus nature right
So in what real world condition will it rain in 15-20 degree? That makes no sense. If it's raining then it's not freezing temperatures. It would be snow which is a very different dynamic. Besides, wouldn't other cars have similar issues too. In fact, I just saw a commercial where a guy pours hot coffee to be able to open his car. 🙂
Per weather.gov, "Freezing rain occurs when the layer of freezing air is so thin that the raindrops do not have enough time to freeze before reaching the ground. Instead, the water freezes on contact with the surface, creating a coating of ice on whatever the raindrops contact."
www.weather.gov/rnk/Measure_Icing#:~:text=Freezing%20rain%20occurs%20when%20the,on%20whatever%20the%20raindrops%20contact.
@@TheIoniqGuy So that phenomenon occurs only at high altitudes? That's a very specific scenario.
It occurs anywhere east of the rocky mountains, it's not specific to altitude.
www.weather.gov/source/zhu/ZHU_Training_Page/winter_stuff/winter_wx/winter_wx.html
I'm looking at buying an Ioniq 5 but this may be the deal breaker. Along with no rear wiper and RWD not FWD for the low end trim. I'm starting to think this was designed with no thought of winter nations just warm places like California or mild winters in S Korean. Small things but big enough in my opinion to look elsewhere even though the car gets great reviews.
Concur, I live in the Rust Belt. I like the car, a lot, but this is a big NO GO. Design is lovely but not at the cost of function. When it's zero degrees or worse out I want to get into the car, not mess about for 5 minutes (esp. when the icescraper is IN the car). I'm fortunate to have a garage, but sitting at the p-lot at work for 10 hrs is enough to cause a lot of heartache.
Definitely a first world problem, but why would you want to deal with it? Do better Hyundai, please.
Electric vehicles, with their stupendous amount of instant torque, don't play well with FWD
Just carry de-icer spray. I have been using it since the 80s.
@@therealcdnuser I really shouldn't have to carry deicer in my pocket all the time for a bad car design.
@@clarkbarrett6274 A couple of taps and a little push. Not with the key fob.
5 secs and in.
When you try to be too cute with parts that should be simple, you end up with failure. Hyundai didn't do severe winter testing or they ignored the results.
Range Rover tested their vehicles against this.
Brands design team in automotive should really think about Canadian winters reality. Design yes but not cool. What a mess
crawl in from the back hatch
If the the icing is that bad you probably should avoid roads but even here in the Midwest these conditions are rare. Even with an old fashion door handle you have to deal with the actual door jam being froze solid.
I have a 2006 honda civic in -30c I can open the door handle just fine, idk why u people have problems with ur cars
lol hyundai spends billions but forgot to test ice.
Once every 30 years it is a problem. Deal
Open the hatch, if the Windows don't open. This is not a problem. Children.
how do fukin manufacturers miss this, do they think no one drives in very cold, totally uneceptacle
Did you read the Manual! Per start the car first and then open the doors! I believe yall do this on purpose! Thank for showing what not to do.
Starting the car doesn't do anything to solve this problem. Watch my other video where I do just that.
Same thing happens to Tesla
Sorry it’s only a warm weather car 🤦🏻♂️. Or three seasons.
Just push the door handle on the left side. After warning the car up for about 10 minutes. Problem easily solved.
Watch my follow up video. Preconditioning the cabin doesn't do anything to the handles.
I think flush pop out handles are a stupid design and I hate the idea of grabbing what is essentially just an awkward looking no style stick and not a proper handle. Renault used to do recessed handles years ago that looked cool and no handle pop out doors have been commonplace in the hotrod world for a while, surely that would be better?
Aw, poor baby.
Soon as I saw Kia EV6 / Hunday Ioniq5 door handler, I knew can was not designed with winter countries in mind leaving in Canada temperature stay at (-14C to -26C) or (7F -15F) in January the layer of ice can even be harder, same for some state of the US, Scandinavian Countries, Russia, Iceland, Kazakhstan... etc. Poor design
This is cute! it's -29C outside over here, my Kona electric was covered in ice but I had no issue 'pulling' hard on the handle and door to crack it open, and that was after pre-heating for 15min....
Clearly Hyundai failed to test this design in extreme weather - I can also imagine the snow accumulation and the chaos that will cause - just a dumb design all the way #fail
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This test is not relevant to real life freezing rain.
This is a very poor design flaws. Along with the no wiper at the back it could be a showstopper for me. 😠
This is a very unrealistic test. Spraying water directly into the door handle isn’t what actually happens in nature. There are plenty ioniq 5 owners who have reported zero problems with door handle seizing up in freezing weather, unlike Tesla model Y and X.
I've had mine through the winter in Finland, and at least for me the door handles have never been an issue. So far I've had the charging port door freeze shut multiple times, and all four doors got frozen shut once, but the door handles have never failed to pop out on their own.
The handlebars are crap, the only flaw on that car
It's a flaw design. Hyundai spent a lot of money for this unique design to appeal customers but unfortunately it doesn't work too well. Eventually will cost more for Hyundai to repair it. They should choose other better door handles like vw id 4 or BMW i4 edrive40 designs. Hope they will learn and improve.
"Detriment to your life". Over dramatique aren't we, unless you are being chased out of your house by a horde of zombies and you need to take refuge in your car.
Wow.. That's disgusting..
What a dumb test, just use the warm-up function
What a dumb comment, watch my video where I do that and it does nothing
gimme a break. First world problem. Go through the trunk.