Cyberpunk 2077 - Angry Review Extended Discussion
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Our Cyberpunk 2077 Extended Angry Review Discussion! We dive a bit deeper into the game as we discuss Story, DLC, cut bits from our Angry Review, and the conversation around the release of the game! Check it out!
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We got literally 3 missions with Jackie.
The “6 months later” cutscene is 10000% percent time we SHOULD have spent building our relationship w Jackie.
Agreed,
Spoiler:
So when he died it really was not all that impactful. You can tell they meant it to be too because the funeral mission for him.
I genuinely get the vibe that those 6 months were originally playable
Because you have a positive relationship with Padre and the Valentino’s going into the
Game with 0 explanation
@@JJsiN84 Yep. I just didn't have any connection with him. It doesn't help that you can spend literally 20+ hours running around after your first visit with Victor doing everything except the main quest before you ever even talk to him again.
That 6 month time-skip so dilutes the relationship that it doesn't feel much stronger than when you first meet him in the Prologue. Can you imagine how much it would have affected you to have a strong bond with him and his Mom? Maybe even helping his relationship with Misty? Talk about your missed opportunity.
And speaking of the funeral and the visit to his little garage/workshop/crash pad, trying to get all the info by asking questions makes it seem like 'V' didn't pay any attention to the guy at all! WT actual F. CDPR really dropped the ball on the V/Jackie best friends relationship.
@@mannymelo949 Indeed, to me It feels to me like the Prologue Montage should've been like the actual first third to half of the whole game, rather than... well... a montage...
@@Uldihaa i did have some of a connection, but it's an old issue for me: "Person that is shown to be important to the Main Char has something happen to them. Emotional!" But we, the players, had just a few scenes... or a 15 to maybe 60 minute Tutorial/Prologue with the character... sure, you might feel bad about it because the protag liked the character, or because in that short time the char was sympathetic... but it just won't have as much impact...
AJS: Cyberpunk Angry review
CDPR : Apology video
AJS: Extended review discussion
CDPR: Extended apology video
lol :P
Nobody:
Relic Malfunction
V: Aw Shit, No
@@SuperMurray2009 🤣
@@SuperMurray2009 V when they go to the shower
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I can tell you CD Project watching Angry Joe so who knows
When CDPR said "It's ready when it's ready" what they meant is "It's absolutely broken and unreleasable and we will release it when it's slightly less broken"
After the trailer the guy saying 'coming when it's ready' gave me chills but after this release just feels depressing :/
Don't worry. It just works. 16 times the detail.
Its 2022 and it still isnt ready, so far for "If they had two more years, maybe they'd deliver on what they promised"
That third guy is a perfect mix of Joe and OJ. Actually, these three look like the same guy from different parallel universes
And they say Asians look the same
😂 For real
Lol 😂 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭🤣💀
Imagine Alex speaking with Joe's voice. Or Joe speaking with OJ's voice. Or OJ speaking with Alex's voice
His name is Alex and he is a treasure to behold
The world makes me feel like I'm the ONLY mercenary in the city.
@Stebo 64 👌
@samsong samsong True, but it has better characters than any open world game ever made. I hope the next GTA steps up the franchise's side characters and missions. They're all trash and forgettable.
I got board plying the game even though it looks great. Started playing godfather 2 on Xbox 360 from 2009 and it’s more interactive.
You know, when 2 indie devs can make a dynamic UNIVERSE (Starsector), but hundreds of AAA devs can't make a single city, there's something wrong.
The only one that matters after Jacky
Although I bought it on launch, it now feels like a pre-order lol
Didn't bother to get a refund on ps4 pro , bought it digitally .
Hoping they fix it without overbearing and overused dialogue . Hope they cut some of that and fix it by Xmas 2021 . Their marketing was better.than or almost equal to gta 5 the only difference is Rocester delivered because they rock and cd project yet is still in its cd case
Refund
Same! I bought it on launch.
@@alexandernadem4133 he can't refund, the deadline was on 21st December.
Top comment omg
"Your game had faces?" - Alex
"Fuck you, internet people, I love you!" lol.
Alex is the best.
Alex to OJ: “did you do the rogue mission?”
OJ: “….yeess 😒”
Alex: “I bet you did😏”
AJ: “😁”
Cyberpunk as advertised was like the Big Mac you see on a McDonalds advertisement. The Cyberpunk we got was like the Big Mac you get from the restaurant.
Big Macs from the restaurant actually function as edible food
"Edible". You seemed to be missing some quotation marks.
at least they don't cost 60 dollars.
Great analogy. I agree.
@@hollowman9410 made me spit my drink out😂👌🏿
I was disappointed in that there weren't any "day to day" activities in Night City. I couldn't take the day to go to the theater then sit down at a ramen shop and eat a bowl of noodles. Things that would allow you to be a citizen of Night City. Even copying Red Dead type side activities would have been fine. There were too few immersive things to do outside of an actual quest.
Exactly how I was feeling about it. Might as well just go and play GTA V which is definitely more immersive.
That's what I been telling people, besides side missions theres really nothing to do in NC outside of grinding for loot.
Yeah, not even able to bring anybody back to your apartment. They really lied about what you could do in this game lol
Exactly. There's nothing to do in the game outside of "go here and shoot this". Even GTA V had a fully functioning movie theater with actual movies to watch. CDPR should've just stayed in their lane.
@@e.lsabbath3258 Yup, I felt the same. My appartment was just a place to dump iconic loots. And the side missions were also not that interesting. There could be so many random quests, but the side missions we got are almost always "rescue person X, shoot person Y"
I don't know if I've been this disappointed in something since I found out I was adopted when I was 8
By the looks of your photo, there were two folks happy as fuck to put you up when you were 8.
@@justinsane3909 I feel bad for laughing at this haha
@@supersmarty8496 Feel bad? You must be a millennial? Break away from the mold!
@@justinsane3909 hey! Just having a bit of sympathy is all
you okay dude?
You can change your dong but not your height? That's insane.
Priorities, sir. Priorities.
You can have an above average dong which some girls but mostly gay dudes like, but having an above average height means you live longer and is more successful in life
@@haruyanto8085 Taller people have slightly shorter life spans.
Most games require different animations for contact between characters with different heights. It's doable, but apparently too much effort for 2020 CDPR.
"Hmm, I can have five more inches? But where to put them..."
They lied and fucked it up....they still lie. They knew exactly what they were doing.
Yet for some reason everyone glosses over the fact that even in their "apology" video they lie to our faces. Their behavior before the game came out was some of the shadiest things any company has ever done, and even now they're acting and lying, and still people wanna believe they're better than this and give them a free pass.
@@enumaelish8247 I won't ever buy a game from them on a release date... Probably millions of other gamers too. They can also forget about the pre-orders. Oh and I'm biased 'cause I'm polish and even I lost respect to them.
@@dreambim2446 I mean, I already had very little faith in them, as far as I'm concerned their release history was 1 decent game and a lot of bravado, so I already had no intention of buying anything until I saw it, I also convinced my friend to not preorder like he intended (wanted to buy a console too), so that saved him a bunch of money.
The board did. You'll never speak to anyone from their board. Thats the problem with having a board thats anything other than advisory. You want a committee to give you suggestions great...but you need a single person with some integrity to lead.
@@drog96strix25 i'll just pirate their shit. i'll happily buy a game sequel to ghost of tsushima or Days gone but CDPR can go f'ck themselves, they are as dead to me as bethesda, EA and blizzard.
Stealing their sh't is a far more effective way of protesting against them because they see those statistics of pirated games and know people will play but wont pay them out of spite.
I don't get why every game needs to have multiplayer. It honestly doesn't seem like a multiplayer game but I bet they want to recreate Rockstar's success
Yea but the thing is, they are so far away from that path that GTA 5 went in that there's no point in even trying to attempt it. CD Projekt Red should know this.
Gotta get that online currency for real money bag
Imagine microtransaction following shortly after their multiplayer release in 2022. The last nail in the coffin for the fanboys.
Every game definitely doesn't have multiplayer. What the hell are you taking about?
@@kumorizora2507 It's called a figure of speech and if you read it correctly you'd realize I didn't say every game had multiplayer
I wish they didn't spoil Jackie's death in the cg trailer from e3
Yup major spoiler. They could have easily left it out.
They spoiled a lot of things. Most aren't necessarily major spoilers but they did show how the game starts, they even showed the title screen itself. I didn't mind it at first because a lot of things were expected to change, but when I first booted the game up, it didn't have that impact I was looking for because I've already seen the title screen, I already know how the intro goes.
Honestly with all of the "adverts" they put out talking about how open ended this game would be and how many decisions would actually impact the story creating different scenarios; I figured they put that out specifically because there would be ways to avoid such a situation. Alas they bamboozled me and no such thing exists as there is very little that actually impacts outcomes. Such a shame.
They said it was a player decision. One can choose to go on stealth, which Jackie will live.
I thought it was supposed to be a branching story path if you fuck up somehow. Yea...didn’t realize it was a straight up spoiler
“It’s gonna be several months” words of optimism from Joe. 2 hours in and I knew this game was not only years away from being finished, but that it was essentially broken when it came to some of its core gameplay mechanics.
Weird. After this last update I had a playthrough with 1 or 2 glitches
@@benpeters9851 Its lacking in every aspect. They removed so much of what they showed to be in the game. Its a very shallow game.
@@benpeters9851 a year later...
So great, a year later, no bugs. How long now til they add all the shit they cut out?
@@ajwtube never, Maybe CP2 if they last that long.
@@marcinm2871 agreed
Alex is definitely needed in these extended reviews he’s really the only one to really call companies out when they mess up
I feel the same way. At first I was like "but he is no Joe"..but then he eventually became my favorite out of the group. He is more unfiltered and more often than not he expresses my thoughts exactly.
joe still calls people out. other joe is a little too silent. i feel like this game has people that care about its development. its not all on the people making it, i feel like upper management is the problem.
@@KeWidundret Clearly the smartest in the group, No wonder joe stopped being a Sjw shithead when he joined.
Although, Joe is quicker to support and encourage devs. He has more relationships with people from these companies.
Not true.
Angry Joe also have balls to trash everyone in gaming world.
Only time I saw him didn't had balls is to trash Wakanda Whatever.
That's were Alex was needed...
I would love to if they cancelled multiplayer and just focused on re-implementing all the cut content.
There needs to be multiplayer because I need more customization!
Singleplayer games end, and then you have a dead game that might have one or two replays before you toss it in the trash and never play it again. Multiplayer games last forever.
Fuck multiplayer. Singleplayer or GTFO.
@@btr003 your idea that "singleplayer = dead game" makes no sense considering witcher 3 is singleplayer only and currently has 15k players. thats after 5 years, most multiplayer games die out in the first month lawl.
however, the real issue is that 2077 cut all of its RPG systems, thus there is 0 point to adding multiplayer now. all the cut content needs to be re-added for online to even make sense
People keep saying this like it would make a difference, again they said a different team is working on Multiplayer it just wasn't the focus. It would not have made the game better if there was no Multiplayer.
I'm gonna buy the Complete Edition for $14.99 during a PSN sale in 3 years.
Why? If the game is bad it ain't worth your time
game will probably still be off the psn store 3 years from now, wouldnt surprise me
@@joeysludge4041 but they promised an open world rpg with choices. Its just an open world with nothing
It's already 34 bucks on gog
That’s what I wish i would have done
"There's no choice" . . . Having only one mission and then the final mission be important literally means no choice, just because you can decide the ending on the last fucking segment does not make all the other 99% have meaning
Honestly, bums me up when they said it was an RPG and how you would be able to do all this and have decisions matter, only to have a half hour opening, different ending, and like one or two unique side quest. Don’t even mention the chat options as most of it is just add a comment and progress the game.
@@GalaxyStudi0s They switched from RPG to Action Adventure gaming in middle of 2018, so middle development after restarting again. With the incorporation of Keanu, they made the game around HIM, thus lots and lots of features had to be cut for the new approach and bc of the difficulties to implement all of them. That's why you are a STREET KID no matter the background, and why 95% of dialog choices are redundant.
Honestly, they should have stared with that from the begining, dont try to chew more than you can.
One path only, make a great somehow linear story, add then DLC's, flesh out the world with different activities, no perk system (it's quite useless being honest), just 6-7 basic attributes and call it a day.
Expand with lots of characters, arcs, mission types, ingame economy and finish it on time. Then add multiplayer and profit with skins, despite saying you "leave greed to others", gamers and shills will forgive you, since you are not EA.
Much more easier and faster than going full berserk mode with an RPG from scratch, with a new engine, with the proyect shifting constantly and working your developers like in a mine.
To be fair that's exactly how the Witcher 3 was. The ending depended entirely on how you treated Ciri after the Battle of Kaer Morhen. Everything before didn't matter.
@@ThaYoungChad Not really. In the W3 you can't determine the ending right before the final mission. CP should have offered more meaningful choices considering V is leagues under Geralt and doesn't change much even when the player picks different choices.
@@samuelchvojka7815 I agree. Still I had fun with the game and liked V. Yeah he's no Geralt, but I still laughed and enjoyed the V I played as.
Cancel Multiplayer. Shouldn't ever be released. 100% of the focus needs to be fixing the game (what should've been done to begin with)
I am not at all interested in Cyberpunk multiplayer. I think it's going to be very unbalanced.
To be completly honest and supportive to OJ, Rogue is pretty hot for her age.
I'd take her to the early bird special at Red Lobster for sure
Yesssss
Rogue was my favorite tbh
GILF
God i just can't get enough of her voice, it's just too sexy for some reason, don't really mind that she's kinda a gilf cuz in that world age isn't really that big of an issue anymore. Sucks that we don't have much dialogue with her.
“Wait, your game had faces?” I literally laughed out loud.
I want to thumb you up but your likes are at 69...
@@ConGie *215.
lol, the irony of making an anti-corporation, anti-predatory capitalism game, and then be practicing shit only worst corporations do, and being absolutely predatory, squeezing people to save your trimester... oh the irony!!!
That's why I love The Outer Worlds it is anti corporate and anti capitalist and an amazing game!
@Dalej Lama multiple times, apology costs nothing... Unless you're a child, you've seen one famous one too, BP apologizing for the oil spill and then going right back at it, corporations dont give a fuck
Not to mention Blizzard giving their heartfelt "apology" for censoring on behalf of the ChiComs
Fun fact: When I played the first time through on PS4, I couldn't get choked up at Jackie's death bc his facial expression kept glitching from his dying face to his happy and alive face. It was so weird it totally killed that scene even though I could tell it was a really heavy moment
Just watch the trailer CD released some months before the game lol. It is better than in game cutscene
@brunomarty5942 I know its a way to do it. But he didn't payed full priced to fix a problem himself, instead of developers realising working game
Imagine the condition of the game back in November 2019 and again in April 2020...
It might have been done then but as I heard other commentators said, it seems like they wanted to add more.
The Intro seems like there was one story, but then Johnny Silverhand hijacked the story and much of the original introduction was cut.
The first 5 hours perfectly playable, the rest of the game were just cinematics for the trailers.
xtra dank
Or during the first “gameplay” trailers half a decade ago
I'm 50/50 that the game was not existing in November 2019 haha
The bugs didn’t even annoy me, the cut content and false advertising however that just annoyed me so much.
Yeah I can agree with this cause I was lucky to not get more then a couple bugs and this was on base console (but I'll touch on that in a sec), and even if I did I can handle bugs
But the cut content and lieing is defintly somthing that ticked me off, I mean Christ i knew they cut the main quest down (they admited to this due to complaints witcher 3 was to long which fuck those people), but you can tell they cut hours out of it most notably the start where you get a freaking Cutscene and a timeskip then 4 missions of a "prologue" and a heap of disjointed side quests and meetings (namely fixers), and yes there's more but that's my biggest gripe
And onto the false advertising yeah there's a few big ones there, namely saying it worked on base consoles when no it didn't the game actully made you feel sick on a base (litterly and figurtivly), and here's one of the biggest lies the whole it's an RPG this was marketed for years until fairly recently I believe when most players had already preordered and stopped watching the info due to fear of spoilers (I mean Jackie's death for instance made me stop watching trailers), so never knew they had changed it quietly from rpg to action/adventure, kinda makes me think they spoiled that on purpose to hide it from rpg fanboys who would have dropped there preorders if they knew
Thats why ppl should not follow the hype
Agree 1000%
@@hellatze I think it's more no one should trust company's, as alot of people didn't buy the hype due to knowing no game could hold up to it, instead put there faith in a company they thought could be trusted like what I did, and god do I regret it
So in a way cyberpunk did have one good message, the corpos are always out to fuck you over
@@thorn5228 a lot of ppl still buying hype. You will surprised
There's literally thousands of random food items scattered randomly to make the environment look and feel more "full" and they all do the same thing, but have different skins, which you cant even use during a fight. I'm not even sure why npcs let you buy alcohol that acts as a debuff and have it go directly into your inventory. Why can't you just buy alcohol at a bar and just get some kind of drinking animation instead? Why are there braindances you can purchase and can't even use because it's "incompatible with your software"? Why the fuck are there so many useless items in this game?
Because they wanted to use those items but didn't have the time or didn't want to make the effort any more before release - that's my best guess
Dude it’s so sad to say, but playing this game just makes me feel sad and bored
I’ve done 3/6 endings and each one makes me feel like I just wasted my time cause it feels like it doesn’t matter what I do lol it’s kinda like just watching different versions of the same ending Wayne’s World style
It's a beautiful background but nothing more than a fighting simulator. Could have been, and should have been, so much more than this.
Lmao
You sound like a boring person lmao
i had a lot of fun with cyberpunk, but it just gave me a taste to replay deus ex and a heavily modded fallout 4 (for some wierd reason, the looter shooter aspect i guess)
I got so confused when random ppl would call and V would respond like he knew them for forever but I’m literally seeing these people for the first time
I found someone who skip the story
All you gotta do is literally act as if you know them like a random ass on the streets of Chicago for you Americans
If you are ever in a position of authority or popularity, people will know you by name, and you won't know who they are.
Look up parasocial relationships. Many RUclipsrs face thus problem.
@@yeahboyz9314 Nah bro. I’m talking about the beginning. Driving around having ppl call when you enter new areas. Some of them V actually recognizes and that’s what bothered me
@@tylersmith9942 if I recall, most of those people were fixers. People of that territory well-known for giving mercs jobs and connections. Would make sense for them to know you since, at least story-wise, everyone is starting to know who you are as your street cred grows.
Alex is right, this was UNACCEPTABLE. That apology was a pat on the head after getting SLAPPED in the face
So no apology, you're wrong. Making apology, you're also wrong. When will it end ? ... yes they're fucked in the first place ... but which you prefer ? ... make apology or nothing at all ?
@@bendegorro754 Fix the damn game! Actions speak louder than words.
@@bendegorro754 why are you so mad other people don’t like what happened? I seen you in a couple of comments because no a shill
Aand people still defend cyberpunk. And say hope it will get fix like No man sky but the fact is NMS not do shady thing like lie to reviewer and they are indie company but Cdp red are mot
@@Juju-cm7ge It's you always read other people comment with rage tone. When i write that comment, read it with curious tone.
Multiplayer can stay right where it is. Imagine everyone running around with Comrade's Hammers and legendary Mantis Blades. I don't think it would be fun.
At least the Microtransactions will be fun....Like GTA or Red Dead Online. If we're really lucky they'll be exactly like Madden.😃
@@CrazyCracka831 oh wow, I'd rather not have this 😂
Mantis blades and other melee would be actually spammed because Comrade's Hammer would do shit to Vs with armordillos. V has bulletproof armor but is 100% vulnerable to melee SO we would se Katanas and Mantis Blades everywhere.
Bit of a late response but maybe an online coop mode would be good. But I do agree on not having a gta online style online mode
@@zsasz21 Yeah, online Co-op would be fun. Like in Far Cry 5, great fun.
The principle sketch was so well done because you didnt even have to tell a joke. The situation is relatable and funny on its own. But then you added the drug angle and EA and it made it even more funny.
I would like to see Principal Joe and his Failed student that later became "Corporate commander" in a review crossover someday. 🤣
Principal Joe would be like " this is what I taught you? you insolent bastard".
You were the chosen one!
Holy shit.. It all makes sense now.. The story is coming full circle
@@asadsiddique7922 It's seems 2011 Skyrim didn't finish him off as much as we'd 1st thought,,,
AngryJoe lore
Gamers: "You were supposed to destroy Bethesda NOT JOIN THEM!!!"
And there would still be hardcore fans going "no, they are just deep undercover. They are going to destroy them from within!"
@@frowny5460 lol
Oh No. It's the age of the evil corporate empire all over again just like the Star Wars trilogy.
Darth Emperor EA: "I. AM. THE GAMERS!!!"
Grand Moff Activision: "Greed. will keep the local gamers in line. Greed for this loot box"
Can't destroy anything without gaining the high ground first
At least they destroyed Bethesda in terms of creating a bigger mess. It's like hold my burger.
This whole situation has kinda made me irrationally angry at CDPR and I am kinda on a crusade path against them right now which is just leaving comments saying that corporations aren,t your friends now will they ever be
i think that anger is completely rational, but you know it's the top execs who just want money
Crowbcat gives me a reason to live. His video was hilarious until you realize just how bad the state of affairs is. Truly masterful artwork
I was absolutely glued to my phone while watching his video. Holy crap was that a work of art.
@@miguelgonzalez6495 lmao
I told my girlfriend that Jackie died and she said “who’s Jackie”. I thought to myself and realized I didn’t even know who Jackie was. They didn’t give us anytime to find out who he is.
You’re words are like Shrek. Absolutely beautiful and true
He had so much potential and so much character he was designed to have his own dlc
indeed. we learn more about him when he's dead than when he's alive.
@Scarface a few bugs is one thing. Being unable to play it properly without bugs bringing everything to a halt, is a garbage and broken game. This is a single player Fallout 76.
That's why I hated jackie, the game tells you that he is your best friend and you should love him. Why, you see him like 5 times before he dies. Video games and movies need to stop doing that. If I'm supposed to care then let me experience the game with this person don't just tell me he's my friend.
They didn’t finish the game because they were too busy hanging out with Keanu Reeves
That sounds fair enough 😂
Lazy millennial devs
@@L4Disillusion it’s over!
It does seem like there was a story before Johnny Silverhand got shoehorned in.
@@Marinealver In the 2018 , forty minute demo a news reel said Johnny Silverhand died in 2076 just 1 year ago. Then Keanu joined later in August. So the whole story was rewritten
I’ve never understood the hype about CDPR to begin with,like i mean how many great games did they even made?Only one i suppose.
I’ve been laughing my ass of when some people were talking that they’re going to dethrone Rockstar or something like that.
2 great games.But yeah, they done fucked up.
@@cosmancho2959 dont quote me on this one but i was told most of the talent behind the witcher 3 bailed after it released
@@zetter13 in 2016 they released the blood and wine DLC which ws pretty great and could've been it's own game. Apparently development of cyberpunk started right after that released. That means when they showed us the 48 minute 2018 demo, they were just 2 years into development, yet they were claiming the game is a complete and just needed a bit of extra polish
@@sibusiso2841 more likely is that the game languished i pre production and what we saw at E3 was a hastily put together product like Anthem
@@sibusiso2841 been it’s own game... dude that dlc is not THAT big. If that dlc was its own game it would be like 10 hours long if someone did the main questline only
honestly at the end of the day it just felt like I was playing a Deus Ex game without all the charm
FYI, the intro missions for each way of life were probably put in near the end side of the development because you have a HUD before you get the eye upgrade. The script with the Doc doesnt make sense since he says "now you should see an ammo count" but I already could see my ammo count beforehand?
Oh yeah, I found that really odd... Like huh, i already see my ammo count lol, but you are probably correct
That's weird, because I couldn't see my ammo count before that scene. I'd see the gun equipped but it wouldn't show me how much ammo I had.
Makes sense for the Corpo intro at least where you start with the arasaka HUD
@@TheDivine1100 havent played that one. I played Nomad and Ive seen the street kid playthru, not the corp run at all. Saving that for when the game is complete.
@@capt.gigglepants1538 lol it doesn't make a difference. You become a street kid anyway.
The ripperdoc idea with changing your body too much and looking crazy: they did that in Borderlands the Pre Sequel with Wilhelm, as you get more abilities you look more and more robotic
And soon we will be able to do the same in real life. 🤣
yeah it didn't impact the story that much but was still cool. You went from a normal person to having a robot voice, cyborg legs and a cyborg punch. It's too bad RPG's don't have an "appearence" modifier on speechcraft. Like would a storekeeper give a discount on a creepy guy wearing a scary skull mask like my character in Skyrim? In that game my tall skinny character, wearing heavy robes and a creepy skull mask hiding his face, went around the town trying to talk to and adopt small girls...
@@mikesully110 Actually they are check Kingdom Come: Deliverance NPCs react to the way you dress even if you're dirty or clean. They comment on it and your stats affecting speech checks like Charisma it gets buffed or decreased according on what you wear and how is your hygiene state. So it can actually happen.
Honestly that was dissapointing, seeing all the mods npc s have, not being able to choose the color of ur blades, even skin. So much wasted potential in customization
What I'm surprised is that they didn't put something in to push you towards being a cyberpsycho once you hit a certain level of tech in your body, but that may have been too much for players to deal with, with the Artifact breaking down.
Shadowrun and some other cyberpunk game do this with Essence loss, etc. but not sure if Cyberpunk does.
"Keep it positive"
I am positive Joe is gonna lose his shit once he reads Schrier's expose.
What's that?
@@TheSword2212 Oh the whole mess of the longer crunch; the shorter dev cycle; the pretty much fake 40 min gameplay trailer on E3; Iwinzki's cherry picking reply; so on and so forth.
@@TheSword2212 basically the same crap that happened with Anthem
@@oscarchavez8527 That was actually Badowski who responded to Schrier and he's an even worse corporate liar than Iwiński, I stg.
@@SuperHubert85 Oh right. Thanks for pointing that out for me.
11:50 This point Alex makes is a pretty solid way to test for empathy
As in, people who make that argument don't care about anyone but themselves
Wrong
"I want the game that they originally promised" - that. Don't care about multiplayer or DLCs for now. I want a functional game with no bugs, trains instead of the lame fast travel boxes, meaningful cybermods, ripperdoc animations, much better enemy and NPC AI, cops that don't spawn out of thin air, 3rd person cutscenes, deeper customization of both the character and habitat and expanded "lifepath exclusive" missions/dialogue options. Everything else can wait.
It’s gonna take years for them to fix all that shit
most of what you asked for doesn't matter. Having train is pointless because there are so many fast travel points why would you want less ways to travel? That makes no sense on a design level. Ripperdoc animations are redundant and would get tiersome especially if you use them a-lot. They never promised 3rd person gameplay plus it doesn't need it since its not a GTA clone. I wish you guys would just admit you where looking for GTA 6 in this game because a-lot of these complaints are starting to make no real sense. They should definitely fix the Ai, the cops and glitches but a-lot of the other stuff are just preferences that dont impact anything at the end of the day.
The sad thing is that is NEVER going to happen, the CEO of CDPR even said they are "Proud" of the PC version, sorry man but that's the games design.
@@lastvictory2010 he said first person cutscenes not gameplay (as showcased). That would make a meaningful difference as you would actually see your character from time to time, letting your characters customisations actually count for something.
@@lastvictory2010 no. we just want what they promised. an immersive open world game with choices and good AI. it has nothing of that.
There needs to be more interactivity with night city. At the moment, everything is just a menu. Food venders, menu. Ripper doc, menu. Gun shop, menu. Fast travel, menu.
Even with food vendors, why did I step in to a restaurant, select order a drink, and get soda bottles and pre-packed ramen??? I feel like this was a step back even from Shenmue and that came out two decades ago.
Yup let’s also forget the 80+ side missions and gang fights to get sick loot lol
@@Borzy247 Story and side missions is the only thing that the game has, interaction means places having more than just a menu in which you buy supplies. Night City after the missions feels empty beside randomly events.
@@balthorpayne it's also a step back from: Yakuza
Red Dead Redemption 2 (in the limited way it was)
GTA San Andreas
@Can't Ban Jesus BAHAHA if u really want things to do I recommend real life, should keep you busy for a while! And I’m terms of things to do in cyberpunk, let’s draw parallels from another amazing open world like gta 5, gimme 5 things you can do after beating the story that you might consider as “things to do” that are more exciting than cyberpunk, I’ll wait
I love how OJ and Alex have their own mini inside jokes, like the whole "I mentioned the height thing" and "I bet you did (the sex quest)
It's December 9th 2021 and cyberpunk 2077 still isn't fixed it's still a broken glitchy mess
This game utterly ruined any and all respect I had for CDPR
The worst thing about this game for me was how they spoiled Jackie's death in one of the trailers.
that emotional moment and I was like, " I saw this in the trailer". such a dumb move.
and how they just meet at the beginning and say "we're gonna be best friends" and then they have a montage of cool missions you never get to play with a time skip. Fuck CDPR. storyteller hacks. Show, dont tell.
Bro, his bitch ass died after 2 missions
If I'm excited for a game or a movie I'll watch the teaser trailer and that's it
Some people don't know how to edit a trailer without spoilers
Honestly CDPR needs to scrap multi-player, the foundation set for the single player can still be realized, after the patches, bug fixes and next gen upgrade they need to sit down and pull a no man's sky, this game has the potiential to become another fallout new Vegas in terms of replay ability. It really disappoints me when I see all the cut content in this game. What this game needs is a renovation, we don't need multi-player.
For real brother multiplayer clearly was just an after thought to give people more of the universe and further sales if they enjoyed cyberpunk 2077 but after this messy ass launch they might as well just cancel it.
Agreed i can speak for everyone but i think a good chunk of the community does not want multiplayer like joe and the guys were saying its predictable that weapons are gonna be extremely OP and game breaking and just make the mode itself unfun to play
I just want them to expand and focus more on the story as much as possible there is a lot of untold stories and unexplored potential with this games story
Question is, will they face another lawsuit if they cancel the multiplayer because those investors are expecting it?
Instead ranting in Angry Joe show channel that guarantee won't be read by CDPR, you should go to CP2077 official forum and making suggestion or just rant.
@@bendegorro754
The purpose of this channel is for all gamers alike to watch there review on the latest gaming content and share our views on the topics, your comment makes no sense friend.
7 months later and well.....
Alex could not have said it better: "I'd rather have 12 year olds type mean things at me for 12 hours than play cyberpunk ever again." hahaha, so TRUE and so REAL
Ever notice how Joe's face looks like a mix between other Joe and Alex?
Yes lmao
Well obviously he’s their child
Love child.... Lol
Jeff u ain't wrong.. Ur comment should be pinned.. Cos Never seen so true a statement.. Hahah..
I don't care about the multiplayer. I just want it fixed and missing features to be put back in the game.
I’d love the multiplayer. It was one of my favorite games I’ve ever played. They just need to give us all the stuff they didn’t put in the game that they were supposed to THEN they can do online.
They would have to start the game from scratch again to implement every missing feature so the game will never be fixed
@@1kbmahan well then....i guess they'll maybe do better in cyberpunk 2078.
@@nrg6245 well glad your enjoying it but as for me I'm just having a hard time enjoying it when all the gigs are steal, rescue or defeat a cyberpsycho. I know there's a few interesting ones but its just very meh for me. I was doing a stealth samurai sorta build. It's just for every good thing there's several bad things for me at least.
@@nrg6245 that's not possible unless they made a whole new ass game lol
I may be drunk but Alex saying "space balls and the quest for more money" is funny asf.
honestly though the bugs arent even the whole of the issues with cyberpunk, its issues are deep rooted in its structure and outcomes, there are many promised things that still have yet to be implemented, things the devs promised throughout advertising and so much of it was lack luster. How the city functions, reactions & operations of civilians, so many open world city mechanics that games like GTA have had decades to smooth out and polish, whereas cyberpunk is still at square 1 in its format and foundation, & with all the hype around it and the direction it took, it came out half baked and sort of contrived, instead of staying true to itself as cliche as it sounds, it went hollywood with keanu and forced a game surrounding him i think to kinda make up for its shortcomings, Hoping the worlds favorite man would rub off some magic on the game and people would be forgiving, because well, Keanu's in it.. .. They should of brought in some Rockstar devs part time or team of open world guidance directors, because Honestly for the "Future of gaming" it might be set in the future, but it acutally seems like the first game a dev makes after doing something completely opposite for so long, and it shows tremendously. It really seems like they were out of their element in this game, and just TRYING to keep the nuts and bolts from breaking or popping out & honestly the story and universe of The Witcher was already a win, it had a solid framework and foundation behind it that was layed out on a platter and it just needed devs to build it and flesh it out... Whereas Cyberpunk needed the foundation and framework MADE and built, the idea of the game was only an outline of potentiality, and They put waaaaaay too much coal in that hype train and promised, and said too much, & it derailed.. Cyberpunk will never recover.. but hey, these are just my opinions, im sure other people would disagree.
One thing I don't like about this game is that the "factions" are useless. Like I would have loved to join The Mox. Or just join something so I can be a part of something, but there is none of that.
Roleplaying aspect is so abscent, you can't really roleplay in the same manner as other games, including witcher 3
can't say for sure but i think they stated pretty early on in an interview this was always intended. V's supposed to be an, what was it? edgerunner? merc for hire? and not some thug playing beat the meat with maelstrom.
That game BEGS for a faction system. Having the gangs/cops/corps love you or hate you depending on whether you do job for them, your choices, if you kill or stun their men... I hope this can at least be modded in.
Yeah that would definitely be more of a RPG aspect but it kind of fits him not joining anyone considering v is a gun for hire.
@@gargamellenoir8460 was originally intended. Both the gangs and the fixers were supposed to have relationship with you and would send people after you or to help you or invite to hang with them
“I kept trying to convince myself that they’ll fix it.”
Im no fan boy but it runs great on my pc. Unfortunate for others that it runs like shit.
@@theyfearme1379 it's because ps4/pro and Xbox still runs on a HD... it needs a SSD for extreme load times as the game depends on streaming in and out assets...
@@theyfearme1379 Ran fine on my pc too but that may be because I quit within a week. Bugs were not the problem I had with the game.
@@theyfearme1379 Running well is the least of their problems. The game is badly designed and hollow as it is. The law system is terrible, and the looting system is bad too. The bugs have taken peoples minds off of how average the game is in the first place.
@@libertyprime6932 sometimes it feels like bugs are there intentionaly to cover the real problems
This came and left my mind faster than any "rpg" I've ever played.. Alex said it perfectly. Such a disappointment for all gamers (and I did have some fun with it)
My favorite quest line was with the detective guy, very immersive and I actually CARED about getting this bad guy lol I also felt creeped out at time, good job!
"Merchandising, merchandising, MERCHANDISING!!!"
"CYBERPUNK: THE BREAKFAST CEREAL!!!"
Cyberpunk: The flame thrower!
Kurwa, bestest comment so far lol
Well, there's Cyberpunk 2077 clothes and beverages, so why not cereal?
@@CADevastator the kids really love this one. ;-)
Cyberpunk the lunchbox!
also it kinda bothers me that no matter how high my body stat is, v always looks hella scrawny
@Mike Marlowe Even though we'll basically never see it to.
@Mike Marlowe You know for a fact they only did that for the marketing and nothing else. "Ohhhh we can change our genitals?? Oh mah gawd!" It's like the shrinking horseballs in RDR2, except that's justified because every other aspect of that game was extremely detailed and polished to a mirror sheen, whereas CP2077 is goddamn sandpaper.
My V is always wearing leather jackets so I never notice
Yeah it really bugged me that I couldn’t change body type at all... Especially since The Animals exist.
@@SuperMurray2009 same, but then he fucking pulls up his sleeves all the time..
It feels nice to see AJ more involved in the news segments and reviews now, I'm glad he's in a better place
Alex has the right frame of mind for all this. Joe and Other Joe are just way too forgiving on it.
even after all the fixes, this games is a 5 at best
DLC: Jackie´s story!
I'd love to see this in the form of a massive overhaul of the prologue portion of the game: replace the 1-2 minute montage cutscene after the lifepath parts with interactive instances of V and Jackie bonding, cappin' fools, and so forth that last much longer and add in some smaller semi-slice of life missions before being contacted by Dexter DeShaun for the heist to give more of a reason for players to like Jackie as a character. While I loved the choomba, a lot of other people didn't as we barely got any playtime with the gonk.
Ew no
Oh yeah. Paid dlc for something that should be in the game in the first place. Fuck that
How about DLC: actual game? So that our choices actually impacts the story in a meaningful way...
Yeah I didn’t give a fuh when he died, you knew him for like 2 minutes
I’m guessing the “dlc” is going to be some of the cut content.
Probably or it’ll continue the ending we’re you go into space after leaving your love interest
Pretty much. They did it with Witcher 3.
New flourishes, different styles of Gwent Cards, alternative outfits and a mission for some Wolf Armour.
More than likely they'll add a Barber Shop, New Clothing Options and Better Cop AI (Hahahahaha)..
I'm HOPING it is at this point. And sneak in some other immersion improvements and varied content while at it.
a working wanted system will be the DLC.
DLC is going to included about whether V is dying or not and Mr Blue involves in the mission. In all depends on ending you choose. Thats what Im guessing about DLC. This is not 100% accurate yet.
I couldn't do "little man big mouth" quest, the giver was bugged standing on his seat
I bought this game day one of launch and played it for two days. My first impression on PS4 is that this is the best PS2 game I have ever seen!
I played for 160 hours and thought it was one of the best Dreamcast games I have ever seen. Even better than my favorite, Shenmue.
When I heard "When it's ready." I thought about Duke Nukem Forever.
14:50 Joe following the theme of Cyberpunk and getting bugged for a split second lol
Cyberpunk is just so cursed
I was having fun with the game until I found out how much was cut. Now I feel dumb playing a partial game...
At least it’s free DLC, EA will make you pay cut content.
I spent 150 hrs on the game doing everything. There's plenty to do even with "cut" content
Honestly when the first Watch Dogs game does police chases better than your game you have a big problem lol.
Even Watch Dogs Legion does a better police system. They combine cars, motorbikes, drones, and helicopters together to hunt you down.
who else was disappointed when the game literally started to fast forward years, like it’s kinda hard to feel connected to a character when you miss half the fucking story..
Right like Christ Jackie and t bugs death (spoiler I guess) feel so godamm empty cause why the hell should we care, Jackie's likeable sure but it's not like we've known him longer then I guess 20/30 minutes, same with tbug, yet were supposed to feel somthing when they get offed, but can't it's just empty cause we don't know them.
What's more disapointing is knowing they actully cut the main quest in half cause a few idiots bitched that the Witcher 3 was to long, and it defintly shows since the prologue is mostly skipped and certain events in the game feel muddled
@@thorn5228 on top of that you then find out your dying not long after. i was not a big fan of the start of witcher 3 the world did not really open till much later with that said i don't know about you but i was disappointed with the dialogue choices in some side quests not leading to different outcomes like they do in witcher 3 also lack of hidden side missions does not give the same replay value as witcher 3.
@@thorn5228 nobody said it was cut by HALF.....where did you get that from ?
@@maxim196 source: trust me bro
@@maxim196 mostly just a guess they did say they cut an amount due to complaints the first games main quest was to long. (Though admitbly this could be bull)
And if we compared the main quest of both games you'll notice cyberpunks barely reaches half
So mostly a guess but honestly you can tell they've taken alot out of this game, or didn't bother to do it you pick.
i still feel stings me that Jackies death is certain. the trailers made me think that your choices or skill would determine big character deaths like that
Fucking imagine. Thatd have been so good. I mean imagine playing after the campaign and some get side missions with him because they could save him and other cant get them because they failed.
I'm all for having significant choices in games, but this one I don't undesrtand, you need to have some events fixed or you just can't work out any narrative flow out of it. Jackie's death is poignant and it would lose importance if it could just be avoided, same with some of the other NPC deaths.
What an odd thing to complain about
He literally dies in the first reveal trailer
I aint complaining im just saying with the hype of them saying choices this and that and everything else. Youd think something like that would be possible
I didn't experience that many glitches playing on pc; and when I did see them they weren't game breaking/didn't interfere with my ability to play the game. Since I was lucky, my issues were mostly with the story, the decisions, and the elements that are supposed to immerse you in the world. I tried to do most of the side missions and optional quests but the world still felt kind of empty, the game feels like a long rollercoaster ride; You can change your position, what your wearing, whether you hold on or put your hands in the air and who is on the cart with you but in the end the rollercoaster smashes into a wall.
I really liked V as a character. I'd hope the expansion continues his story with Panam as the travel the badlands looking for a cure. They could flesh out the vehicles and add customization. Hoping for a mad max kinda thing.
“You had faces in your game” had me going that was hilarious lol
I wanted this to be a “rags to riches” type of game. Not a Johnny Silverhand game. I think I had the most fun just doing the beginning missions with Jackie because it felt like I was actually grinding my way up to the major leagues of night city. I still think the game is amazing as it is now, but it’s just not as good as it could’ve been and that hurts the most.
It does seem like there wasn't a focus on the story but I guess once they got Keanu Reeves in they had to make Johnny Silverhand central to the story.
Easily the worst decision story-wise is cutting out the first few months of working with Jackie and making your reputation up to the big heist. If we could actually play that part instead of just a cutscene his death and funeral sub quest would have been so much better
There is a rags to riches ending
Tbf this is Cyberpunk. The obvious creator OCs are the "legends" in the setting, and the story almost always revolves around them. It's not Keanus fault here. Like the ENTIRE PLOT of this game is a continuation of a adventure in one of the last Cyberpunk tabletop games. The bombing of Arasoka tower? An adventure. The saving of Johnny's girlfriend? Another adventure. The issue is that the game was obviously meant to have Johnny as a protaganist, and the PC just being the body for him
@@autumnlotus6250 I understand. I just feel like the main story we got would be better as DLC. I would rather experience my own story in open-world games like this, not someone else’s. It’s definitely not keanu’s fault, he is just an actor.
The A.I. is worse than the Zigerion's simulation in Rick and Morty.
that was a good episode xD
That's actually spot on
My man!!!
@@Oldhandlewasabitcringe (snaps fingers) Yes.
I want the replayability. Done everything in the game, and replaying it would not be that different.
“I’m playing cyberpunk on my nasa supercomputer and I’m having a blast!”
lol. If you paid 2 grand for a PC is BETTTER run anything lol.
"but can it run cyperbunk?"
@@dimeweld *laughs in australian*
I think gaming hardware market going insane at the moment is having a compounding effect on Cyberpunk.
How many more people would be playing this on next gen console or more recent PC hardware if the scalpers and crypto miners hadn't fucked the availability of shit.
@@zacredington4776 yeah, if you're going shopping for a pc here you gotta bring some lube along with you because you WILL be fucked roughly. it's never going to change either because it's tied to shipping distance. no domestic pc hardware manufacturing means massive markup for shipping the shit halfway across the planet.
Alex telling it like it is is so refreshing.
He makes Joe uncomfortable, he starts looking at his phone lol
@@sissyphussartre2907 That's just Joe being a dick
Where was this?
@@Kronos0999 that's Joe garnering information to keep the discussion flowing. No one needs long pauses in a discussion that's 45 minutes long.
@@Kronos0999 I think that’s Joe looking at his notes
I got an interesting ending. I became a legend in Night City as queen of the Afterlife, Judy broke up with me while we lived in a luxury apartment, and V killed herself by flying into space and de-pressurizing her suit while outside her ship. I dunno if that was a good ending or not so I'll consider it "poignant" and leave it at that.
I won't pick up the game again until the bugs keeping me from completing the game 100% are fixed and more things to do are added to Night City. I love how combat feels (especially with double-jump making combat feel like a slower-paced DOOM experience) so I did most of those encounters, but there's one question mark in Watson I think which is stuck inside a building I can't enter, so what's the point of continuing to play post-main story if I can't do everything? There's actually less variety of things to do in Night City than there was in San Andreas in GTA V, and I thought that place underwhelmed. Golf and tennis are pointless and not exactly fun in GTA V but at least they're there. This is from the same company that put the most enjoyable diversion of all time in The Witcher 3, so I'm fucking confused.
The crafting system sucks and is pointless. Even the less useful skills in The Witcher 3 were fun to at least experiment with.
Patch 1.2 is coming and it's going to improve police AI, allow you to steer cars out of stuck situations, improve how vehicles handle (with a steering sensitivity slider), and fix accidental dodging, but that doesn't count as new content for me so I'll stick with DOOM Eternal and Hades, two games from last year that have been terrific from day 1
I didn't run into nearly as many bugs and glitches on the Series X. Of the ones I did have though, some were pretty bad. Namely the phone calls in which the character would call, but the dialogue would never start, locking you out of your menus and preventing you from progressing. The biggest problem I have is that much of the cut content can't exactly be re-introduced, at least, not easily. The engine and coding very clearly does not support a lot of the features that were promised, and it would take years to remedy that. The game can feel extremely immersive at times, but the cracks really begin to show the longer you play it. The replay value is extremely questionable at this point, with life pathes contributing very little to the story or gameplay, a linear progression for the main plot involving the same characters and missions, and endings that all involve V's death (or to put it better, endings of which there is no return; to keep playing, you have to load the save prior to starting the ending sequence). The DLC and expansions for the game will likely include a lot of the cut content, but will it be able to fix many of the fundamental problems with the game? Hard to say.
Some things we definitely need:
- More apartments. There are several locations that were clearly designed to be, but as of right now, sit as unused assets.
- Some sort of public transit service. We may be a ways off from a monorail or subway system, but at least introduce cabs. Maybe buses even. At the beginning of the corpo life path, you even get to ride in one of those flying cars. What would be so hard about setting up some stations or "bus stops" as you will, that let you travel from one point to another this way. It would allow for an alternative mode of transport than fast travel, helping with immersion, and allowing you to focus on your surroundings as you are not the one driving.
- Continued Delamain support. To clarify, after you finish all of Delamain's quests, you can potentially walk away with one of his cabs added to your collection of cars. Unfortunately, it will not drive you places, and Delamain never addresses you when you ride in it.
- A Hwangbo that isn't Hwangbo. Seriously. One of the worst things about this game is how lonely it can feel at times. Sure, most of the main missions have you fighting alongside your pals and going on wild adventures together. But they all end the same way, going your separate ways due to V's "condition," returning to an empty apartment, doing side quests all by yourself. We need followers or companions in a game of this scope. And admittedly, we do find out about the lives of our friends, and why they can't necessarily follow us around all the time. So perhaps as a reward for completing their arc? I dunno.
Those are just a few of the things that might bring me back for a second playthrough.
"What would multiplayer be then?"
Money printer.
Cdpr isnt talented enough
Yeah they won't cancel it, the investors want it so they can sell comsetics to all the braindead fanboys, hoping to match GTA Online in revenues.
I'm starting to think it's the only reason this game was made in the first place, at least from a shareholder perspective. Might explain why they went from advertising an RPG to releasing a linear action-adventure game. CDPR wanted to make an RPG, and the investors wanted a GTA-like to make more money.
Brrrr
@@Texelion3Dprints i mean, imho a GTA-like RPG would've been the perfect type of game for Cyberpunk 2077... too bad that it ended up as neither flesh nor fowl nor a good fusion of both.
@@Texelion3Dprints But GTA and RDR have amazing single player content tho... if they were aiming at rockstar at least try to work on the single player content first.
"What would multiplayer be then?"
Utterly imbalanced and broken.
Getting shot through solid cover, because weapons like widowmaker or Blyatrevolver exist? Yeah not nice.
A weapon with homing bullets that can aim for headshots? Not nice either.
Multiplayer have to completly rebalanced or outright ban some weapons(-types). I am hoping CD Red scrap that idea of a maybe GTAlike multiplayer here.
Folks already datamined multiplayer files. We know there will be a "scoreboard" and what stuff it tracks, but also that there will be p2p gameplay with one person as host and "Heists" so you can play with chooms
Multiplayer doesn't mean pvp. Could be coop
coop, not pvp.
Would be fine if mp was just coop campaign.
My favourite multiplayer type is cooperative, PvE. In a roleplaying game, MP often is incredibly fun in a team up scenario.
PvP in RPGs have an unfortunate tendency to devolve into tards using whatever meta is popular until the next patch. Elden Ring and the rest of the Soulsborne games are one of the more popular offenders.
20:43 "He slept with an old lady" *huge grin*
In case anyone was wondering, the cheerleader skit is from their review of Lollipop Chainsaw.
I though people knew by now, because what other game has a cheerleader lol?
@@SisckoImper ikr?
Lollipop Chainsaw and Overwatch. The two games I've never played but enjoyed the porn extensively.
@@motorpolitan8884 my kinda man right there
@@motorpolitan8884 Good work soldier, c'mon on home and get that research debriefed.
Played Cyberpunk for over 50 hours and I think the fixes roadmap should be split into 5 acts throughout 2021 I Act 1. Bugs/Crashes (Now to end of March) I Act 2. NPC, Police and traffic AI (June) I Act 3. Missing world content. (March to September) I Act 4. Next gen update PS5/XSX (October/November) I 5. Paid Expansions - 1. Holiday 2021 and the rest in 2022 (Heart of Stone and Blood and Wine style - Crystal Palace, Nomad Arizona and cut Jackie 6 month prologue / montage but which we play through up to accepting the Sandra Dorset rescue mission).
No, they should just focus on the next game. It’s a long roadmap and nobody will care by then. Most of us have already finished the game’s story.
@@TheMrGiannisgr if they don't fix it, no ones going to trust them so much on the next launches. They have already lost consumer trust. Damage control right now
Nah, The expansions/DLC would bring me back. 100 hours in the game and I've done about 4 different endings and all side missions. The games side missions and side characters were the best part. I would love to revisit the game in a couple of months. People still love no man's sky, I don't see why people wouldn't mind revisiting an improved night city.
Paid expansions? Lol
@@TheMrGiannisgr I'm not buying the game unless its fixed, I'm sure there are people who've returned it or held off buying it until its fixed like me, they should fix the game for people who haven't beaten it plus its a way to get more sales plus if they don't fix it, any dlc is a waste.
crafting got me enough eddies to buy legendary subdermal armor, kirosho mk 3, and reinforced tendons on a level 3 character. You can make about 2100 eddies by spam crafting/dismantling 100 bounce backs from the start of the game. paying off victor right away gets you early access to some cyberware that normally takes at least 12-14 Streetcred to access from other rippers. id recommend at least putting 3 perks in it and raising the stat to 7. downside is that i probably spent over an hour in the crafting menue before seeing vic. also it glitches out and stops giving components if you dismantle your entire stack of bounce backs at once. (keep 4-14 components and bounce backs in your inventory to keep this from occuring) but yea. with the tech stat at level 16 you'll be able to use the bounce back loop to create every component in the game and never want for eddies.
The game was way to much for them to bite off.
Same thing happened with Destiny, promised as an openworld chartered storyline the likes of World of Warcraft in space, something new, but then turns out to be an instanced looter shooter lmao.
Its why pacing is so off in Cyberpunk, way to much cut content. These companies will continue to do this ripoff nonsense because Gamers are stupid towards the scope of game worlds that are actually technically possible in current year.
"It didn't happen to me so it's not real" well damn Alex that's half the country about just about everything nowadays 😐
I love these extended discussions SO MUCH, I hope we get more of them more often. Especially since I'm sure they're massively easier+faster to make
I'm going through the game in a slow pace... but if they are going to add things to the game, open the doors. It says open in big neon letters but you can't go anywhere. When I stumbled across one of the tarot cards in a building where I could move around and get lost... that was great. They have arcade machines in so many places, but you con't play a single one. that would make the world feel alive as well. Of course there's all the big things that everyone already mentioned.. but don't forget the small details. Yeah, might not be a small detail to open the doors to places. But even if you can't buy things and it's still the boring screen when you buy stuff, do it. BDs as well. Bring those to the game. Doesn't even have to be interactive. I met a munk in a park the other night when I was playing, who just showed a place and talked, but it was still a BD segment. They are there in the game teasing you. Why buy pointless things that you can't use?
You didnt even mention the terrible clothing system with locked stats. You have a choice: Wear cool ass looking outfit that you found with 10 armor, or wear an orange bikini, buffalo fur hat, pink shorts, green swimsuit and flip flops with 250 armor. There is no way to upgrade old items to good stats.
There is an upgrade option in the crafting menu. But its cost prohibitive and not really good enough to let you keep using what you want. I think they wanted to let you do that but once again didn't deliver.
You have to look for clothing with mod slots. Then use one of the mods that boost Armor like 100. I also found that if you go to a clothes store, save and reload. The options/items with mods can change. But I agree it should be better.
yeah i cheesed this a little with crafting upgrades (found a cool jacket and matching pants). eventually had to pick Generic Grey Trenchcoat because it had like 60 more armor and i was getting destroyed :(
I wish I had more time with Jackie..drinking, racing, shopping and more missions
"Jackie, let's go bowling"
Yup. There's only 1 race quest which struck me as weird. The witcher at least has races for each area, and several quests involving racing.
@@mvdb510 I found it really strange too when the race was finished. Like that's it, this one quest, and then never again in the entire city?
@@mvdb510 And you can't even finish the race quest if you follow her wish .. You can't even win a damn car in the end
I played on the PC. I had about 5 crashes total. Day One, about 2 crashes, lots of stuttering, some freezes that I thought would end up in crashes but they didn't. Lots of bugs and glitches, nothing game-breaking. But I found the game to be sooo boring. I was yawning, I swear, for about the first three or four hours while playing. I did run into a lot of really stupid AI that sometimes caused things to go wrong, requiring lots of retries by reloading. Sometimes that fixed things. Sometimes that didn't do shit.
Patch 1.04 didn't really do much to fix anything on my end. But Patch 1.06 killed me. My PC ran super slow, to the point where I could barely move. Checked my system and I had nothing running in the background that could have contributed to the issue. I have the game on GoG so thankfully I was able to roll it back to 1.04 and finish the game. Then I discovered that I had about 15 achievements that had failed to unlock and I had to play the damn thing a second time. So yeah, that was an ordeal and a half. I did manage to finish it, saw all of the endings (all depressingly not worth the effort, IMO) and got 100% achievements. And I haven't touched the game since.
I was bitterly disappointed by how horrible Keanu Reeves was. He was never a good actor. No one on the face of the planet could have ever said that about the guy. He seems like a decent guy, although sometimes I'd say he was a hell of a prick to his friends, but publicly, to his fans certainly, he's perceived as a God. But truth be told, the guy couldn't act his way out of a paper bag and he did his worst work on this game. I'm just so damn sorry the devs chose to honor his request to expand his role and make it bigger requiring a rewrite of the script to make him part of the main story. I think it suffered badly from it.
The story was lackluster (see above) and unimaginative. Side quests were too many and often intrusive as hell. You're going off to do something, text message from this bozo or phone call from that nitwit would interrupt with information having nothing to do with what you're working on. Then the constant comments and advice from Johnny Silverhand had me echoing my V every time he told him to just STFU already. I even shot at Johnny several times, getting even more frustrated that I couldn't kill the SOB because he's a damn hologram.
Game world seemed dead and empty. AI throughout the game was the worst I've seen since Tom Clancy's Wildlands. It actually made that game look good. Combat and driving mechanics were horrible. And just like The Witcher 3, you can become so over powered and nearly invincible by mid- to late-game, that all enemies end up being a joke to fight making the final boss fight against Adam Smasher as anti-climatic as the one with Eredin in The Witcher 3. I guess some bad habits just never die. They just repeat themselves in each new game.
There's another analogy I could make with TW3 and that's how Roach, Geralt's horse, handled those horse races before six months' worth of patches fixed it. She would run just fine until she came to an invisible seam in the road, usually right before a bridge, and then stop dead in her tracks. Really not a great idea in the middle of a horse race, but hey, it's CDPR and their award-winning, ground-breaking RPG, right? But the same damn thing seems to happen in Cyberpunk where cars would go along their AI driven paths until they hit some invisible barrier and would just stop -- right in the middle of the road, on the highway, nowhere near a traffic light, accident or police action. Just stop dead. All the cars behind it would then stop and not move until some magic moment would occur and they'd all start moving again. If it were not so laughable, I'd cry. It's the work coding I've seen since The Witcher 3.
I get it that the devs knew they had a crap game on their hands and that it needed at least another 2 years (IMO, that wouldn't have helped a damn bit) but still, how do you excuse this sort of really bad game coding? You can blame management for not listening to them. You can blame them for releasing it. But some of the damn blame has to go on the devs for creating this mess in the first place. How do you even turn in shit like this and still expect to be paid? True, the CDPR CEOs wouldn't know good code from bad, wouldn't know how to create a damn thing to save their lives, but still, one has to assume they're not complete morons. How could they look at this and believe it can be patched or even released and it'll be fine in the end? This was sub-par work on every level. Even having less than 4 years of work to show for itself. One indie developer working alone in his garage could have done better and quite a few have. CDPR had over 500 people dedicated to working on this thing alone and THIS was the best they could come up with after 4 years?
One has to wonder why they didn't outsource the console ports to another company. They certainly did that for the enhanced work for TW3. And after failing for two years to make any headway with Cyberpunk's multiplayer, they also outsourced that to someone else. Even that company is having issues with the work, presumably due to the game engine which they kind of threw together at the last minute when they decided to start over from scratch back in 2016. Maybe that's really at the root of this whole mess. Maybe the game director is mostly to blame for not understanding a damn thing nor for being able to actually head such a task without any real training or background other than being Head of Studio. Nice to be able to appoint yourself the job. Would have been even nicer if he'd had a clue what he was doing.
I think they could use one of the endings, make it "canonical" for the DLC/Expansion whatever (there is one particular ending that would allow the story to continue, keep both V and Johnny in the picture, as it where and would also allow them to expand the game world. Yeah, there was no faction system in the base game because V was on a timer. He had to get shit sorted first. That is done now you get to do whatever you want in Night City. Implement the faction system, let the player choose their own allegiance, make their own way; have all kinds of races, events, investigations, whatever, and set an important but non-urgent overarching goal. You've told the story, now let the player actually be a night city merc and make the game more systems driven than event driven.
My concern however, is that no matter how much the devs or CDPR as a whole might want to do something like this (or whatever their original vision for the game is), it may not be realistically possible due to financial or investor pressure. CDPR isn't that huge, they don't have a major release every year... and they might just be forced or at the very least highly incentivized to just move on as soon as possible. Bring the game to a decent technical state, add content as paid DLC but otherwise not improve or overhaul the game significantly.
The city design is beautiful but needs a lot of things that adds to inmersion (better npc ia and daily routines, interaction with street vendors, animations for riperdocs like the 2018 demo, better police system, tatoo and barber shops, car customization, minigames and more)
So like Red Dead Redemption 2 or Grand Theft Auto or even Witcher 3?
Hell Fable you could get special tattoos barbershops and different clothing gave different stats
I actually hate that you can't change enough about their bodies either. Hips, waist, everything.
I don't necessarily agree, people always go on about stuff like that in rockstar games being immersive, but honestly for me once i see that stuff in a game i don't really interact with it anymore, its a background gimmick. I would actively prefer games be more like cyberpunk, where they focus on the gameplay and overall writing and structure of the quests in the game. I really lucked out, but i seen 0 major bugs in my run of cyberpunk, and its one of the best of 2020 for me.
@@spudster8887 good for you. But we were promised an immersive game. We didnt get it