Jointer Size Doesn't Matter! Flatten Large Boards on a Smaller Jointer

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  • Опубликовано: 12 янв 2025

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  • @williampike6813
    @williampike6813 10 месяцев назад +5

    Explained well, not too long, pleasant to watch. Thanks for not including garbage that others do such as obnoxiously loud jingle music, etc.

  • @grumblycurmudgeon
    @grumblycurmudgeon 4 года назад +9

    I've wondered for years why nobody else does this. I always assumed it was me doing something galactically-stupid, though (maybe due to how dangerous the exposed blades are... if you're inattentive or clumsy?) so I've only told a few people about it (both of whom chastised my recklessness). Kudos for having the stones to go public about it man! You're not alone! I've been surreptitiously working along the same exact process for years!
    For anyone wondering: yes, it works fine on a 6" jointer too, just bolt it down to the work cart and make damn sure she's gotta lotta weight to her.
    I solved it by making a single stand from 3/4" ply to hold jointer AND the planer (the planer added 100lbs straightaway. Plenty, but since I was twitchy about it, I made the bottom support plate hollow, then caulked it and filled it with sand. Add casters BEFORE you start. Mine prolly weighed 400lbs, total.
    Finally: outfeed and infeed. You REALLY want the support. I have a little removable shelf that runs in front of mine too, to support the front half of that board. Just make a mental note to always have either it or the guard in place at all times. The concern is if the stock overbalanced and tips forward, you don't want to lose your balance or instinctively flail... and set your hand down to catch yourself (wince).
    Awesome video bro!

  • @kasbakgaming
    @kasbakgaming 4 года назад +49

    I've used this trick before. I prefer to use a laminated particleboard for the spacer for two reasons. One: It's not subject to warping due to humidity changes, and it's machine cut, so you're guaranteed a flat reference surface. Two: The lamination gives it a low friction surface to make the board glide easier. I also have a laminated board at full width and length that I use during normal operation to serve as an extension table for the planer, so I don't even have to adjust my height when I go to plane the full width of the board.

    • @deadspeedv
      @deadspeedv 3 года назад

      Good tip thanks Kasbak :)

    • @MarcosElMalo2
      @MarcosElMalo2 3 года назад

      No significant expansion or contraction to worry about?

    • @kasbakgaming
      @kasbakgaming 3 года назад +3

      @@MarcosElMalo2 It's particle board, so there's no grain to change with humidity.

  • @eworth3
    @eworth3 10 месяцев назад +2

    That works great as long as you can flatten that partial first surface of the board in ONE PASS on your jointer. If it requires more than one pass to be flattened, you will have to remove the rabbeting ledge to make a second or third pass. The unplaned part of the board overhanging the infeed table also hangs below the level of the rabbeting ledge thus preventing a second pass. If you don't have a rabbeting ledge, you can use as many passes as you want to flatten that first surface of the board. Most of the lumber I use is rough hewn and takes more than one pass to flatten. If you're milling a lot of lumber, removing the rabbeting ledge makes sense - for one board, not so much. Thanks for the post. It's a good technique, especially if your jointer doesn't have a rabbeting ledge.

  • @arthooper5806
    @arthooper5806 4 года назад +17

    Dude this is a piece of information that I needed so badly! I have huge slabs that I need to work. And I have the exact same size equipment as you. So I will definitely be using this technique.
    But be careful working with that Joiner. I lost the end of my left little finger earlier this year to mine. And I am incredibly safe with my equipment handling. Processing heavy wood and getting tired can be a dangerous combination on that machine.
    Take care and continue the great work, Art

  • @mkbcoolman
    @mkbcoolman 4 года назад +12

    I just used this technique this week for a 12" board. I have a 6" jointer and 13" planer. The pieces were only about 4' long, but it works like a charm. Just be patient and take your time making really shallow passes. This is a lifesaver for a small hobby shop like mine.

    • @Johnny-jr2lq
      @Johnny-jr2lq 3 года назад

      Welp Im not sure what I did but I completely jacked one side of my butcher block reloading bench. Have the ridged set up the 6” jointer and the 13” thickness plainer. The boards im working with are pine 2x4’s and around the edges are pine 4x4’s 8 foot long.

  • @timbertime7823
    @timbertime7823 Год назад +2

    I'm going to try this! It looks significantly more efficient than using a sled with hot glue and shims to stabilize the board for flattening the first side.

  • @G.I.JeffsWorkbench
    @G.I.JeffsWorkbench Год назад

    Great tip Tyler. Thanks for sharing. The wisdom you shared made me a new subscriber. I won’t repeat the other comments about safety, but please take them seriously. I’m sure they were meant seriously and out of concern for you. Now if only I could remember to practice what I (& others?) preach.

  • @iaidoman
    @iaidoman 4 года назад +9

    that is pure genius..

  • @richhagenchicago
    @richhagenchicago 3 года назад

    Nice trick, I have an 8 inch jointer, and a very nice, but only 12 inch powermatic planer. I will put that trick in my toolbox for those 8 to 12" wide slabs. Thumbs up!

  • @3sticksoutdoors
    @3sticksoutdoors 2 года назад

    I only have a 6" bench top jointer and it made things pretty tricky because the cherry boards I'm using have some crowning and twisting after drying. I had to get out a portable jointer and take the portion that overhung down in order to make additional passes to get it to ride the board on the planer without doing funky stuff. It's doing its job but adds some extra steps. Great video!

  • @HebronGrandpa
    @HebronGrandpa 2 года назад

    I have a 6" jointer so can see there might be a problem. Thanks for the tip.

  • @mattneff1262
    @mattneff1262 3 года назад

    This is fantastic!!! Looks like I'm making a jig for my planer today... Thanks!!

  • @Keionspost
    @Keionspost 4 года назад +2

    I've got other ways but this is by far the best way to get the job done. Good job

  • @matthewwright57
    @matthewwright57 4 года назад +3

    This works! But make sure that your board isnt more than twice as wide as your jointer, the center of gravity in the planer needs to be over the board. For these size tools 14inch would be the max.

  • @randymarshall1267
    @randymarshall1267 Год назад

    Great video! I've thought about doing that for a couple of years but was reluctant till I witnessed you doing just that. I have the same 8" jointer and a 1033X planer. Got some wide cherry lumber and didn't have a clue how I was going to process it. Now i know. Thanks

  • @AlexanderGibbonsAudio
    @AlexanderGibbonsAudio 4 года назад +3

    I feel dumb for not realising this, but in awe that it can be done.
    Great video!

  • @michaeldenney286
    @michaeldenney286 2 года назад

    Great tip and well demonstrated without any extra jabber. Gotta say though that when you reach over the end of the board with your finger tips right over the mouth of the cutter I had to pause and go get a stiff drink. Be careful pal!

  • @RonMarshallrone
    @RonMarshallrone 4 года назад +1

    This is awesome! I'm gonna try it tomorrow...it sure beats the hell out of hot gluing to a board with shims. thank you!

    • @RonMarshallrone
      @RonMarshallrone 4 года назад

      This worked great. One of the best tips I've seen and used on youtube. Works great for reducing snipe on smaller pieces as well. Very cool

    • @DIYTyler
      @DIYTyler  4 года назад +1

      Glad it helped Rone!!👊🏻👊🏻

  • @pemtax557
    @pemtax557 2 года назад +1

    Well explained and demonstrated ... Thanks and Cheers!!

  • @Arterexius
    @Arterexius Год назад +2

    It might seem small, but I highly appreciate the degree of safety you showed in this video, including turning the jointer off whenever your hand had the faintest chances of getting close to the rotating knives of the jointer. That's professionalism right there and it shows you respect the power of the machines you use. This video stands in stark contrast to most "how-to" videos on YT and I thank you for showing others proper tool safety guidelines. It is paramount to keep all limbs intact, from the womb to the grave.

    • @DIYTyler
      @DIYTyler  Год назад

      Thanks for the kind words!

  • @johnwurst6691
    @johnwurst6691 4 года назад +2

    Thanks for showing us your method. I will try it next time!

  • @delapopo1
    @delapopo1 4 года назад +8

    IDK why i had never thought of this....thanks man!!!

  • @alovemetropolis
    @alovemetropolis 4 года назад +4

    This just made my day. Thanks!

  • @2tipit
    @2tipit 4 года назад +1

    Great video, finally understood how to use the supporting board.
    I made mine with a 1 inch tick by 60 inch long melamine, easier to calculate the thickness of the finish board ounce you remove supporting board and a lot more slipper.
    Made a test today and wow

  • @user-fx9jj2xh1n
    @user-fx9jj2xh1n 4 года назад +1

    Clever solution. Thanks!

  • @seanb9436
    @seanb9436 3 года назад

    just bought a jointer and planer and was wondering if you could do this - thanks for the info!

  • @mitzibud6908
    @mitzibud6908 4 года назад +2

    Love, love, love your resourceful nature!!

  • @Azarie03
    @Azarie03 3 года назад

    Good job, man, I learned something today.

  • @emedina403
    @emedina403 4 года назад +1

    Great tip, I just wish I had that kind of cash to buy such nice equipment! I followed your affiliate links and I'm a bit jealous at how expensive your jointer and planer are! Maybe one day.... but not today!

  • @finalcutchuck7357
    @finalcutchuck7357 4 года назад +1

    BRILLIANT! LOVE IT.

  • @jeffstewart395
    @jeffstewart395 2 года назад

    Insurance Company's have gotta love this video

  • @ruinunes8251
    @ruinunes8251 4 года назад +1

    It makes perfect sense. I like the length of your jointer. I had one years ago (ELU made by Dewalt I think) but the length was much shorter.

    • @chrislowery330
      @chrislowery330 4 года назад

      Elu was bought out by Dewalt. They made some great tools but as the adage goes, if you can’t beat em, buy em out

  • @willyzook
    @willyzook 3 года назад

    Awesome method! Thank you for sharing this!

  • @beckdesignbuild6372
    @beckdesignbuild6372 2 года назад

    That is brilliant!

  • @AntiViGames
    @AntiViGames 4 года назад +1

    OR if you want to save space just make a jointer sled for your planer and use that as a jointer. Not only is it cheaper because you don't have to buy a jointer but you also save space in your shop.
    There's plenty of jointer sleds out there so just look them up.

  • @willwatlington6750
    @willwatlington6750 2 года назад

    Nice method! Thank you..

  • @peterkiernan1668
    @peterkiernan1668 4 года назад +1

    Very good tips, thanks.

  • @sapelesteve
    @sapelesteve 4 года назад +1

    Nicely done Tyler! Good thing to know for sure... Stay safe.......👍👍😉😉

  • @thebobloblawshow8832
    @thebobloblawshow8832 2 года назад

    Great idea. 👍👍

  • @claytonholton2749
    @claytonholton2749 3 года назад

    great job little buddy!

  • @DevinciDesign
    @DevinciDesign 4 года назад +2

    Hi
    I’m impressed by your dust collection ! Can you make a video about that ? What are the specs or your collector ?

  • @pavelow235
    @pavelow235 3 года назад

    Awesome trick man !

  • @samuelsherman1822
    @samuelsherman1822 3 года назад

    This is very clever

  • @timthorp5841
    @timthorp5841 3 года назад +4

    this is a great technique, but the following should be pointed out:
    -if your jointer has a rabbeting ledge (which yours has) you only get one pass to do the cut, otherwise the lug that is left behind will hold the board up as it hits the ledge
    -I have a jointer like this and the technique you describe still works, but I set the infeed table low so that I can make 1 deep cut

  • @dennistaylor7655
    @dennistaylor7655 4 года назад

    Nice tip! You just saved me some money!!

  • @Deep_Divers
    @Deep_Divers Год назад

    Thanks for the tip!

  • @RDAUGIRD
    @RDAUGIRD Год назад

    Pretty slick!

  • @MarkK01
    @MarkK01 2 года назад

    Tyler, I see that you stepped up your game from Ridgid power tools. Congrats on that. What I am surprised with is you still only have such a low subscription count. I have followed your channel for years now but I have never paid much attention to your sub numbers.

  • @popolkon
    @popolkon 4 года назад +2

    Wow, thanks man, perfect decision :)

  • @gordonmckay4780
    @gordonmckay4780 4 года назад

    Very cheeky! I like it.

  • @williamsturley6631
    @williamsturley6631 4 года назад

    Outstanding idea. Just be extra cautious
    Of course.

  • @BigJBizz
    @BigJBizz 4 года назад +1

    Absolutely brilliant!

  • @miguelatlsilvamagana7060
    @miguelatlsilvamagana7060 Год назад

    Hello, thank you very much for sharing. A question from your experience. Do you recommend a indutrial planer with an up or down motor? They told me that the ones with the upper motor have more problems but I honestly don't know. thank you so much

  • @paulnelson648
    @paulnelson648 3 года назад

    Super cool and intuitive trick! Now if only I can get my Grizzly Jointer off backorder this century.

  • @Nick.k18
    @Nick.k18 Год назад

    So what if I were to face joint a 12 inch board on a 6 inch jointer? Could I not just face joint one 6 inch side the flip it around a land face joint the other 6 inches? New woodworker here, just wondering if that would work

  • @odbo_One
    @odbo_One 10 месяцев назад

    Perfect for certain jointers, mine will not allow that. However, it's a large jointer.

  • @davidharvey5672
    @davidharvey5672 3 года назад

    Very clever !

  • @Realism91
    @Realism91 4 года назад +1

    I've seen other woodworkers use that planner sled to improve snipe also... I now think everyone should just have one of those as wide as their jointer fixed to their planner on one side with a pivot point on the infeed and a clamp on the outfeed this way if they aren't maxing out their planner they can skew the bed to improve the finish on weird grain.

    • @Realism91
      @Realism91 4 года назад

      Forgot to mention the sled should have a fixed fence on one side of it so it works when you set it to skew. I also don't care about my planner bed because it's a rigid planer and is horrible.

    • @Realism91
      @Realism91 4 года назад +2

      And have a second sled that can go bedside the other one when your doing the second side of wide boards.

    • @Realism91
      @Realism91 4 года назад

      Just throwing some ideas to the public, love your method.

  • @oniechambers3522
    @oniechambers3522 6 месяцев назад

    Wow that's cool thanks!!!!

  • @Creator_Nater
    @Creator_Nater 4 года назад +1

    Well done

  • @jimrosson6702
    @jimrosson6702 Год назад

    Great tips

  • @randyf2960
    @randyf2960 Год назад

    So a question to the group. Why can't you just flip the board end for end and joint the same face going in the opposite direction?

  • @HalcyonGuitars
    @HalcyonGuitars 3 года назад

    Way to think it out!

  • @josephjetton273
    @josephjetton273 4 года назад

    Wow! what a great tip. I have never needed to joint and plane a board that size. I do work with smaller boards and only have an old 4" jointer, and a 12" Shopsmith planer. I will be trying your idea very soon. Thanks and keep up the great videos.

  • @1hellokittymeow
    @1hellokittymeow 2 года назад

    Ok guys, so I’m about to buy my jointer tomorrow, so a 6” jointer is ok? If I mostly work with 10 inch boards?

  • @TylerJohnson-li8yt
    @TylerJohnson-li8yt 5 месяцев назад

    So I’m new to woodworking and have a question. Could you not have just planed the board on the planer being its wider than the board itself? I thought that was what the planer did, was to flatten boards and to make them the same thickness. Is that not right? I guess essentially I’m wondering what the jointer step offered that the planer didn’t do? My question probably tells how much of a noob I am, but I love woodworking and am trying to absorb all the knowledge I can!

    • @KZ-1155
      @KZ-1155 10 дней назад

      I used to wonder that also, until one day the lightbulb in my noggin went off.
      What your asking doesn't work due to the top and bottom side of rough lumber boards are not parallel or flat (coplanar) with each other.
      The boards he used don't look that out of whack, so it's harder to imagine.
      But especially if you have cupped, bowed, twisted boards.
      You need to face plane on jointer first, or use a planer sled with a planer to get one side flat.
      On a bowed/cupped/twisted board, the pressure rollers on a planer will flatten the bow or cup as it passes through, which will then spring back when it exits the planer, so you’re not Flattening like you would think.
      Bowed/Cupped Boards need to be supported from under side if running through a planer. Or
      First face plane them on a jointer.
      If the Jointer is wider than the board. It takes care of the initial face plane.
      Then there is no need for a planer sled.
      But the method in this video works for when your board is wider than your Jointer.
      Before my lightbulb moment, I was always stumped by thinking why can’t both sides be flattened on the jointer if it were wide enough.
      For the same reason. Both sides are not Coplanar to each other. If one end of the board is thicker than the other, no matter how many times you run each side on the jointer, one end will still be thicker than the other.
      Hopefully you will now have your lightbulb moment. lol

  • @stevensuckling5329
    @stevensuckling5329 3 года назад

    Great idea but are we not limited to size of thicknesser we have

  • @alfredocastro6181
    @alfredocastro6181 4 года назад

    Thanks man excellent trick

  • @jeffkennedy5607
    @jeffkennedy5607 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the help.

  • @giovannipetitti1588
    @giovannipetitti1588 4 года назад

    very good Tyler.💯👍👏👏👏👏👏👏

  • @JLWoodArtistries
    @JLWoodArtistries 4 года назад +1

    Great tip. Thanks for sharing.

  • @CyrilViXP
    @CyrilViXP 11 месяцев назад

    The guy who invented this know-how is a genius

  • @MB-us8dk
    @MB-us8dk 4 года назад +1

    This was a massive piece but you want to keep the weight either right on top of the bit or in front of it

  • @BuckysCustoms
    @BuckysCustoms 4 года назад

    Where there is a will there is a way! Really enjoy your video's!

  • @Cactustone
    @Cactustone 4 года назад +2

    Excellent video! Do you have any rules of thumb for ratios? For example, if I have a 6" jointer and a 13" planer, woulda 6" support board support a 13" feed?

    • @jmac2o229
      @jmac2o229 4 года назад +1

      if i was to guess, i would assume you need your support board to be at least, preferably slightly over, half of the width of the board you're processing. So for a 13 inch board, you'd want a 6.5" or greater support board for the sake of stability. Can be done with smaller, like he said, but it'll just be more of a challenge

  • @gd3design63
    @gd3design63 4 года назад

    Great trick 👍

  • @79monroe79
    @79monroe79 4 года назад

    Watched this when you first posted and finally used it today. Thanks. Super helpful on a twisted board.

  • @Oak6
    @Oak6 3 года назад

    I'm new to using planers/jointers. Why does he need a support board? Why cant he just turn the piece around after running the first half over the jointer?

  • @Lasnoe
    @Lasnoe 2 года назад

    This may sound like a stupid question, I’m interested in woodworking but don’t have any equipment yet…. Why can’t the piece be flipped to have the overhang run on the jointer with the live edge against the fence???

    • @Lasnoe
      @Lasnoe 2 года назад

      Found another video on it…. Makes sense now. Lol

  • @drkline69
    @drkline69 3 года назад

    I'm kind of new to planers and jointers. Why didn't you just run it through the planer in the first place? Why did it have to go through the jointer at all?

  • @markschiavone8003
    @markschiavone8003 4 года назад +30

    Just go ask the Perkins brothers if removing that guard is a good idea...

    • @timothydillon6421
      @timothydillon6421 4 года назад +1

      Maybe hearing protection is a bad idea as well.

    • @super6baker910
      @super6baker910 4 года назад +1

      I get what you are saying safety features are there for a reason and should not be removed but perkins was a very experienced wood worker who got complacent, an easy thing to do but very costly losing your fingers. This can be done but you better be on your game.

    • @matthewwright57
      @matthewwright57 4 года назад +2

      Also notice he put it back on before doing the edge jointing.

    • @jegr3398
      @jegr3398 2 года назад +1

      Who the hell's that?

  • @williamshivers1115
    @williamshivers1115 3 года назад

    Wow, just viewed this, and couldn't believe no one noticed that he turned the jointed on, then grabbed the board end fractions of a inch from the spinning finger remover! Consider yourself very Lucy man!

    • @KZ-1155
      @KZ-1155 10 дней назад

      Look again mr shivers,
      He turns on the dust collection not the machine when he reached up near the blade.

  • @Ritalie
    @Ritalie 2 года назад

    I've done novice wood working for 25 years, with no jointer or planer. From what I can see here, using this technique, as long as you have both a jointer, and a planer, you could basically use a 4" jointer and a normal size planer to do almost all normal boards, up to the width of the planer? Using this technique means there isn't an absolute necessity to own a larger planer? It also appears that there is no way to flatten a board without owning BOTH tools.

  • @BronkBuilt
    @BronkBuilt 4 года назад

    Great tip

  • @daveh9521
    @daveh9521 4 года назад +2

    Not so sure I understand this one. I was wondering how you were going to run the other side through the jointer, and thought you were using the jointer because the board was too wide to fit through your planer. If this board can go through, they why not just use the planer? I've run rough boards through my planer all the time. I'll even up one side to "flatten" any irregularities, then flip and take down the other side to finish. Gorgeous shop, by the way =)

    • @douglashaner6802
      @douglashaner6802 4 года назад +2

      I have the same difficulty understanding.

    • @erk9822
      @erk9822 3 года назад +1

      The planet will make a board parallel to the other side, not exactly flat. So if there’s any twist in the board it will still be there after the planer. Still though, this method is pretty time consuming and there’s a better way to do this. Just make a planer sled and shim the twist out and flatten one side that way and then flip over.

  • @casual257
    @casual257 4 года назад +2

    wouldn't it be best to size the length board first, as long as it not too short?

  • @garrettthornton3086
    @garrettthornton3086 3 года назад

    Brilliant!

  • @akebaharper5931
    @akebaharper5931 3 года назад

    What is the brand of the thickness planer?

  • @michaelruss1742
    @michaelruss1742 4 года назад

    Thanks for the tip.

  • @luke9822
    @luke9822 3 года назад

    This might sound ignorant, but to all the people warning about how fingers are easily lost with this method, can you please elaborate for me? I'm trying to understand what might happen that I'm not understanding here, given that the slab extends wider than the blades (assuming the slab is supported in all directions and doesn't just tip off forward).

  • @lakeacres9750
    @lakeacres9750 3 года назад

    do you find that the rollers of the planer push down the unsupported side while planing though? i would think that would cause the side being planed to be warped coming out.

  • @IEnjoyCreatingVideos
    @IEnjoyCreatingVideos 4 года назад

    Nice video Tyler! Thanks for sharing it with us!💖👌👍😎JP

  • @richragan4810
    @richragan4810 8 месяцев назад

    Thank you!

  • @jimstewart1044
    @jimstewart1044 4 года назад

    Great trick!

  • @kennmacintosh2627
    @kennmacintosh2627 3 месяца назад

    The place I buy my wood from, I just pay a few bucks and have them surface 1 face and 1 edge.
    But ya this method is doable if your wood supply store doesn't have the machinery to do that for you.

  • @terrylevasseur2819
    @terrylevasseur2819 4 года назад

    Awesome tip. thanks!!

  • @nigeljoiner
    @nigeljoiner 4 года назад

    what kind of snipe did you get running a board that weight and length through the planer?

  • @martyjosephson4937
    @martyjosephson4937 2 года назад

    Shades of "Next Level Carpentry" you should have given him some credit Tyler?

  • @allent555
    @allent555 4 года назад

    How do like the planner and jointer you have?