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Can you provide all the links you talked about(or you did but I am too dumb to locate it)? I mean the one about tapering legs on the jointer and one about jointer vs planer.
@@StumpyNubs I used this video to taper the legs on my desk. My Ridgid jointer bed was exactly long enough. I must admit that making that deep of a cut was plenty scary but it worked beautifully. Keep up the great work man, it is appreciated.
Nice to see you’re owning it and have a positive attitude about it Jon! For many it can be scary, discouraging and frustrating when a mistake like that happens.
Perfect timing, just acquired several hundred board feet of cupped white oak flooring, and was considering planning first side with a hand plane!! Before using my planner, cheers for resolving an issue... here in the UK, don’t really have a great selection of jointers? genius channel please please keep up the good work, best regards.
These videos are getting more and more excellent. The format is so perfect. There is no time wasting filler in the vids and the explanations are always focused on the big picture and not catered towards your specific tools and projects. Science focused without getting overly technical. The visuals help make the points. And just the right amount of humor. I wasted more time sitting in academic courses than any human being should be subjected to and your lectures rival very best at any university and any subject I’ve studied.
The number one rule dad taught me about working with power tools in general - "Never think about anything else when woodworking. Always remain focused only on the task at hand."
Funny enough, in an industrial setting, it's almost the exact opposite. Focus on your work, but never lose awareness of your surroundings. When you're by yourself in your own shop though, I'd agree with you wholeheartedly.
Just a helpful tip regarding tearout: you can often see tearout on rough lumber from when it was processed at the mill. Just run the board in the opposite direction and you should be good to go. Saves the step of having to do a test cut.
Another Fantastic Video! . Nobody on RUclips, comes close to "Stumpy's content per minute ratio," yet surprisingly, all of Stumpy's top-level content, is explained very simplistically, as such I always leave learning so much- thank you ! /// I Love It! "If you pet a cat in the wrong direction, somebody's going to have a bad day!"
I spend allot of time (farrrrr tooo much!), watching carpentry related videos on RUclips. I learn so much more from your videos (per minute), than anyone else, BY FAR! I am eternally grateful to you for your perfectly pitched, clear, concise and yet richly informative videos. You cover so much in such a short space of time in a way that is so easily digestible. I've been reflecting on it, you make it look easy and effortless. I'm guessing much thought goes into these "offerings". In my humble opinion you've achieved "mastery" in this aspect of what you do.
Here's a little common sense reminder that I was taught in shop class in school. The instructor explained how knives fit in the cutter head on the jointer. Pointing to a straight 6 inch gash in the ceiling, he said that is what happens if the screws aren't tightened properly. That lesson was more years ago than many of you have been alive, but it always stuck in my mind.
Solid Gold Content! Not condescending, but easy enough for anyone to grasp. Anyone who can't follow along probably shouldn't have access to sharp instruments.
You are a fountain of knowledge Sir, your meticulous attention to detail is admirable. I enjoy all your videos because I learn so much. Thanks for all the great work that you and your teams do, and I especially like that you introduce other people as you did in this video. Keep up the good work, stay safe and well.
Great info on the jointer. Glad you don't try to impress us with all your knowledge. You just tell us what we need to know and why we should do things in a certain way! Thanks for the tutorials without all the thumping of your own chest!
I'll further your comment "jointers are rarely ever used with perfect stock" by saying jointers are NEVER used with perfect stock. There is no such thing as perfect stock in woodworking.
I occasionally use a magnetic feather board on the outfeed side when edge jointing wide boards. Just gives a little extra assurance the board is tight against the fence.
I like to use a hand plane to knock off the high spots and to make the downward face more stable, especially for removing the rocking between the infeed and outfeed tables.
This was very clear and helpful to a novice such as myself. Although I don’t have a jointer, a friend just bought a 16 inch and is offering to sell me his Delta 8 inch so I have to think hard about this.
Great video The final step of using a table saw to cut the final edge is isn't obvious. Why not just use the jointer for that edge as well. Thinking about it you have the same problem with the edges as the top and bottom - they wouldn't be parallel. So it makes sense to use a table saw to make that final cut so it's parallel with the other edge.
I'm new at woodworking and i was having really serious sniping problems with my jointer. Thanks to your simple video I was able to fix it completely and I was so proud of my little accomplishment. I can't thank you enough, you're an incredibly competent teacher
Definitely agree on the paddles! When you hook a finger over the trailing edge of the board, there's nothing left for the doctor to stitch closed..... Yup, did that.
BEST explanation! I've been searching for 2 hours to learn "how to confirm a milled plank is square on all sides". Lo and behold, this tutorial explains how a jointer performs that function. Thank you!!! 🙏🏽😊
I have owned a jointer for about 4 years. And until now I was not using it to its full potential until after watching this video. Now I will not be throwing away as much wood to the burn pile as much. Thankyou for the great tip. Keep them coming brother.😊👍
I want to thank you for never forgetting safety in all your videos. I started watching your channel just before your incident (we never say accident, there's no such thing). I used to know a man who owned a small crane service company. He would not hire a crane operator who had never tipped over a crane. He believed that a person could not fully understand how important it is to work safely unless they've been involved with how bad it can be to not work safely. Something you said in this video, really stuck with me. It was that you "insist that paddles are used in my shop". There's no one in my shop, except me to insist that I do anything safely. No one is going to shake their head in disbelief or try to stop me from doing something risky. Anytime I do something I know I shouldn't, and get away with it, it just reinforces how "good" I am and emboldens me to take more shortcuts. This weekend I built a push block for my jointer to replace the one I misplaced weeks ago. Then I cut a slot and glued in a Walnut riving knife for my table saw zero-clearance insert. I just want to thank toy for putting a bug in my ear.
I use a 4 3/8" Craftsman rabbeting jointer mostly because I got it cheap but I like using "classic" tools. Properly set up, even a small jointer can be very useful (& it fits the room i've got for it). I also upgraded the bearings, went from a 1/2 to 3/4 hp motor & sped up the cutter head. It requires almost no sanding on single pieces. Very good video. Most people know so little about jointers.
Going out to play with the Jointer now that I know where to place pressure. Had been confounded why I could not get anything but curved boards off the darn thing. Great explanation as always. 5 hours later..... Yep it worked. Loads of flat and jointed cherry waiting for the planer and table saw. Thanks James.... I mean Stumpy... no James.
I bought that same grizzly jointer with a spiral cutter about a year ago, been very happy with it since. I've never regretted spending money on a good tool.
Super helpful, thank you! This stuff is starting to make more and more sense now. I have hesitated getting into power tools because it seemed very confusing to me. I appreciate that you reference the functions of hand tools!
That temptation to hook your fingers over the end is exactly why I started using paddles. This was back when I had an underpowered jointer, and tried to ask too much of it.
Great video, as usual. Loved the line related to cutting with the grain: "If you pet a cat in the wrong direction, someone is going to have a bad day."
I was hoping you'd cover the one piece of info that I rarely see mentioned but I believe is critical for getting flat boards: the majority of the pressure should be applied to moving the board forward, ie lateral. Downward pressure should be enough to keep the board stable on the table but not much more. I've found many to put too much downward pressure which will bow the board and not get you flat.
Hi James, I'm about to get my first jointer so this video is extremely useful and one I'm keeping. Keep up the great tutorials. Take care James. Cheers, Huw
Hi James, thanks for the refresher. My paddles are shop made, using kitchen drawer waffle pads for gripping and include two dowels on one end that can be pushed down to hook the end of a board. Thanks always for sharing!
ThankYou for your time!!! I’m relatively new to woodworking but not to power tools or technique. I was a machinist/ toolmaker for 40 years till I retired. I appreciate your willingness to give tips and ideas that a newbie like me can appreciate!! It wasn’t like that in the trades when I started!!! Older journeyman weren’t as willing or quick to give up their lifelong learning experiences, you had to ‘earn’ it for lack of a better word!!! Believe me, a humble attitude went a long way 🙂 You and others are willing to show and teach and I find that a credit to your person. I’ve made an edge planer by just inverting a hand planer and adding a entrance and exit table and attaching it accordingly. It’s ok for edges but after your tutorial I see the benefit of using the tools in sequence ad you’ve directed!!! Thanks again
And remember that fastest way to flatten a board is with a saw 😃. Don't joint boards longer than you actually need. Unless doing some sort of grain wrapping match.
I’ve been skeptical in the past of grizzly tools, especially being accustomed to working in a primarily powermatic shop, but I recently purchased the same jointer shown in this video (G8057) and I have to say it’s a real machine at an unbelievable price compared to other brands. Also the parallelogram jointer of any brand is a huge selling point for me just because of ease of adjustment
FANTASTIC video, James! This is just what I needed. I’m having issues with my 6” Delta jointer (like your old one) but this video has the answers. So much great content here. THANK YOU! 👍🏼
I lucked out on a benchtop 6" jointer for $70 at a pawnshop that didn't know what it was. Didn't even need to sharpen the blades (but I did need to adjust their height) Otherwise I'd still be saving and doing the tedious planer jig trick. Great video as always.
Thank you for all your advice. I’ve been a woodworking hobbyist for long time but it’s amazing what I’ve learned from you. For example, I needed a double taper on a trapezoidal table leg but my taper jig was too limited. Your design worked perfectly. Thank you.
When my dad was a apprentice his partner once held his hand over the spinning blade,the blade got grip on the wood and yeeted it away leaving the blade and his hand left,the next thing he know is that half of his palm is gone and the jointer got a new paintjob.
Finding your channel on RUclips has been the single most educational source I've seen on all aspects of woodworking. This is journeyman, or master, level stuff. Thanks for doing what you do so well.
Another excellent instructional video! Thank you for all you and your team do James! No matter how much I think I know, you always seem to be able to teach me a few more things... Thanks again!
Thank you for the video. It is always very informative. The only thing I would have liked to have see\heard in this video would have been to hear the difference between the beginning of the flattening processes and the end so you have a good idea on how many passes it takes and how to determine when enough passes through the jointer has been made before you take the wood to the planer. Other than that...keep up the good work.
WOW.. you talked about using something to push the wood with. GOOD idea. now the gory part. a friend called and asked if I wanted his 8" jointer. His Wife don't want him to have it anymore after He ""CUT A FINGER OFF DOWN TO THE FIRST JOINT"" True story. I have used a Jointer for 30 years. ""USE PUSH PADS""
The thing I struggle the most with, is flattening cupped boards. I recently did one where I was attempting to remove the cup but no matter how I fed the board, it wouldn’t flatten and it just removed too much material and reduced the thickness too much. I was making maybe 1/32” inch cuts and applying just enough pressure to keep it stable.
i just got a 6" table top jointer. I'm upset becuase I've been trying to build this benchtop forever and i can't get the planks to line up flush. there's always a slight gap
There's so many channels that recommend what tools "to set up your shop", it's nice to see one that instead explains what the tools are actually for and gives you enough info to decide what you need for yourself. Keep up the great work!
Great video, helpful, gets to the point quickly and well presented. Have been away from WW for along time, did fine on some big honking boards but was sniping my 2"x4" 8 footers. You reminded me of all the thing I was doing wrong :) Also bonus points for keeping the like/subscribe/comment stuff until the end :)
This was the most informative video I have seen on Jointing. I am buying my jointer tomorrow and have been researching them for a while. Very glad I found your page! Thank you for the great information!
Thanks for this. I have an 8" jointer. Middle $$. I know it's a relative term but how much downward pressure should you be applying to the board? Thanks.
I’ve got a 1929 delta 4” jointer I keep mainly for sentimental reasons. I’m putting a helical cutter on my 6” delta, which is my go to machine. Any thoughts on the best use of my vintage 4”, beside display?
I just bought a used, 4 inch Craftsman jointer (got it for cheap). When working on a project, my stock was roughly 3 1/2 inches to start. When finished edge jointing, I found on pretty much all my boards they came out to about 3 1/4 inches on the leading end, and 3 7/16 inches on the trailing end. Any idea why that would be?
Great video. Here in NZ, we don’t call them “jointers”. You are more likely to hear people them call a “Buzzer” or “planer”, since it planes a surface. What you would call a planer in the US we would call a thicknesser in NZ, since it gets the board a certain thickness. Calling them a jointer here and people will ask what the hell are you talking about? :-) keep your videos coming, you’re doing a great job explaining things and I always learn something.
Great video as always! As someone just starting out with more time than money/space, I'll have to make due with the eventual planer + sled and tapering jig on the table saw. Will definitely coming back to this video when I do eventually get a jointer for reference. Keep doing what you do!
Here’s a technique I have developed to deal with twisted, wonky boards. It works well for flattening and edge jointing. I have a Makita brand handheld, carpenter style jointer that hardly ever gets used. By marking the high edges of a rocking board with a pencil, and then rough planing with the Makita, little by little, sighting as I go, I get the board RELATIVELY FLAT (to the eye). Then I use the jointer. If I am edge jointing a board with a large bow or concavity in the edge, I use the same technique to get the board relatively flat to the eye. This technique works especially well when you don’t have a lot of thickness to play with. It allows you to get to the end result very quickly with minimum of wasted time or material. Obviously, a hand tool like a scrub plane would work as well just not as quickly.
Norm Abrams used a 6” jointer for years. He did upgrade to a 8” at some point but he built a lot of projects with a 6” Delta jointer! I have had both the 6” and 8” Delta. My preference is the 6” because it matches the re-saw capacity of my bandsaw and takes up less floor space. The 8” did have a nice long bed but since I don’t often joint 8’-0’ stock the shorter bed on the 6” jointer has never disappointed . The money gained from selling the 8” jointer bought an excellent used 6” Delta jointer and 14” Delta bandsaw with enclosed stand and fence. A friend of mine bought the helical cutting head - nice but three straight knives works fine for anything material you are going to buy at a big box store.
thanks again for another great video i just purchased the Wen JT833H 8 inch spiral head jointer, Lowes had a special 20% off your first purchase i dont like credit cards but after my cash down, 2 gift cards and 20% it went from 410 plus tax to 177 after tax i have a planner and table saw so after your videos it can help my woodworking which im still a little new at, about a year or so thanks again
Shout out to the images at 9:51 and 10:10. They are entirely practical depictions that should be shown so much more often. Because not everyone gets what "with" or "against" the grain means in reality, and are left scratching their heads... "WTH does with the grain mean? Add Weetbix?" Sure, everyone knows not to pet a cat backwards, but you don't (usually) feed cats into machines. And if you're new to machines you will have trouble with the trifold feed/cutter/grain relationship, and this image should make world of difference to newbies.
hey Can a Shelix cutter fit in any traditional spiral cutters. ( the individual cutter, not the whole unit.) I know this is not the norm and they would not be going in at an angle as a spiral is straight ahead.But they are 4 sided and could extend spiral cutter head. Put your thinking cap on and don't pull the trigger too quickly on this answer. As you know most of us can't afford a SHELIX cutter. Thx Bruce
Streaks of voids? I used aqua coat on Russian olive table tops, it seemed to make wood finish better but lightened the wood when finished with general satin varnish
My first woodworking project was to build a workbench out of 2x6 boards. All I had at the time the only power tools I had were a Miter Saw and an Electric Drill. Now I have more tools (including a thickness planer, a table saw, and a biscuit jointer) and my skills have improved so I took the flattest board and made a sled the jointed one face and made the other side parallel (both using my planer). After that, I trued and edge then made the other edge parallel (both using my table saw). Next I biscuit jointed everything to bring one side co-planar and glued everything up. Not the top of my bench is a (almost) perfectly flat slab. I did a lot of this based on your previous videos. Would a jointer have been nice? Sure, but for how often I do this, I would rather spend that space and money on something else - maybe a lathe.
Love the video. I knew I wanted a jointer but that's all I ever knew, very helpful and thanks for explaining the Helical head too. I kept hearing about them "They are the best", well why?
As a hobbyist, I can't justify the expense or garage space of getting a jointer. But I do have a thicknesser. So if I wish to dress up some rough cut wood for a project, I clamp them together, stand the stack on its edge and run them through the thicknesser. This gives a nice edge to all the boards, then I run them through individually to get the flat sides looking good. It seems to work okay, probably not good enough to edge-joint them but good enough for a nice square edge. I am really careful about where the clamps will be as they go through the machine, I understand about flying bits of metal being an ex-serviceman. Any feedback on this method would be greatly appreciated, I am sure there is something I have forgotten about by doing it this way. Like I said, I am just a hobbyist amateur woodworker. I love your videos, and have learned a lot from them. Keep 'em coming.
I need help taking a bow out of a 2x6x6 cedar board. I have the bench top grizzly jointer/planer set up nice and square. I have ran the board through several times and the bow is still in the board. It's frustrating because it seems it works great on the short boards but not so much with the longer stock. Any help would greatly appreciated. I have watched sever videos that you have made on jointing.
This guy seems too young to have this much wisdom and knowledge, but stumpy speaks to the wannabes like me and surely to some experienced craftmen who just didn't notice some of these profoundly simple things that could have saved woodworkers a ton of dust and Home Depot runs. Great podcast
James - I just bought a Jointer and wish I had watched this video before I tried to use it today. There are other videos out there about how to use Jointers, but none of them came close to this one. I was pushing down on my workpiece today and asking myself if it made more sense to push on the outfeed side or not, but I wasn't sure. One question, the manual for the Grizzly benchtop jointer I bought says to make the infeed and outfeed tables level right to left. The manual actually says to make the outfeed table level with the body of the cutterhead - which is spiral (I'd call it semi-helical) and not the blades - and then make that level with the infeed table. There are 4 screws per table so I'm now back to adjusting all of them which is frustruating. This Grizzly jointer looks like a great machine, but one of the screws seems to be stuck so I'm close to sending the whole thing back. Anyhow - maybe I should have just left the tables at the factory settings. A video about this would be great. As you say, these machines are a bit mysterious.
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Can you provide all the links you talked about(or you did but I am too dumb to locate it)? I mean the one about tapering legs on the jointer and one about jointer vs planer.
Do you have the link for the tapering video you referenced ner the end of this video?
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@@StumpyNubs I used this video to taper the legs on my desk.
My Ridgid jointer bed was exactly long enough.
I must admit that making that deep of a cut was plenty scary but it worked beautifully.
Keep up the great work man, it is appreciated.
I heard it works well on 👍
Oof. Glad you’re back to work and it wasn’t even more serious.
Nice to see you’re owning it and have a positive attitude about it Jon! For many it can be scary, discouraging and frustrating when a mistake like that happens.
Lol
That’s right omg! Hope you’re doing well, cheers!
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I am impressed with your knowledge for such a young man. Good job!
Perfect timing, just acquired several hundred board feet of cupped white oak flooring, and was considering planning first side with a hand plane!! Before using my planner, cheers for resolving an issue... here in the UK, don’t really have a great selection of jointers? genius channel please please keep up the good work, best regards.
Outstanding tutorial. I only wish I had one. It’s on my list. Thank you for teaching me so much.
These videos are getting more and more excellent. The format is so perfect. There is no time wasting filler in the vids and the explanations are always focused on the big picture and not catered towards your specific tools and projects. Science focused without getting overly technical. The visuals help make the points. And just the right amount of humor.
I wasted more time sitting in academic courses than any human being should be subjected to and your lectures rival very best at any university and any subject I’ve studied.
Seconded. Well done and informative. Thank you.
Nailed it. Agree with removing the time wasting fillers. My bench top jointer just arrived, and I needed answers quickly.
I have to agree with that!
Said it better than I could!
The number one rule dad taught me about working with power tools in general - "Never think about anything else when woodworking. Always remain focused only on the task at hand."
absolutely, positively correct . very smart dad.
Absolutely! And I apologise for liking the comment changing it to 70 likes from 69........😜😂😂😉
Funny enough, in an industrial setting, it's almost the exact opposite. Focus on your work, but never lose awareness of your surroundings. When you're by yourself in your own shop though, I'd agree with you wholeheartedly.
Me: *zones out at work while using a drill press*
For all tools in general, you know how bad a chisel can cut u when u slip
Just a helpful tip regarding tearout: you can often see tearout on rough lumber from when it was processed at the mill. Just run the board in the opposite direction and you should be good to go. Saves the step of having to do a test cut.
Another Fantastic Video! . Nobody on RUclips, comes close to "Stumpy's content per minute ratio," yet surprisingly, all of Stumpy's top-level content, is explained very simplistically, as such I always leave learning so much- thank you ! /// I Love It! "If you pet a cat in the wrong direction, somebody's going to have a bad day!"
Fantastic educational video yet again James. Your videos just get better and you're a natural teacher. I really appreciate your channel.
I spend allot of time (farrrrr tooo much!), watching carpentry related videos on RUclips. I learn so much more from your videos (per minute), than anyone else, BY FAR! I am eternally grateful to you for your perfectly pitched, clear, concise and yet richly informative videos. You cover so much in such a short space of time in a way that is so easily digestible. I've been reflecting on it, you make it look easy and effortless. I'm guessing much thought goes into these "offerings". In my humble opinion you've achieved "mastery" in this aspect of what you do.
Here's a little common sense reminder that I was taught in shop class in school. The instructor explained how knives fit in the cutter head on the jointer. Pointing to a straight 6 inch gash in the ceiling, he said that is what happens if the screws aren't tightened properly. That lesson was more years ago than many of you have been alive, but it always stuck in my mind.
Great reminder
And the ceiling.
Solid Gold Content! Not condescending, but easy enough for anyone to grasp. Anyone who can't follow along probably shouldn't have access to sharp instruments.
In Europe a jointer is a very different thing. For example in Amsterdam coffee shops they have a jointer that doesn’t plane but rolls.
OMG bring that thing to all of USA. Lots less anger, loads more fun!
Thanks for my morning chuckle. 😉
Best jointer tips I have seen to date. Thanks James!
"If you pet a cat in the wrong direction, somebody's going to have a bad day."
Truer words were never spoken.
You are a fountain of knowledge Sir, your meticulous attention to detail is admirable. I enjoy all your videos because I learn so much. Thanks for all the great work that you and your teams do, and I especially like that you introduce other people as you did in this video. Keep up the good work, stay safe and well.
Really enjoy your tutorials. Simple, straightforward and most of all relevant! Thanks again.
Hey, Stumpy, great video! Can you link to the table leg tapering video you reference near the end of this video, please?
I was just about to say the same thing...
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Great info on the jointer. Glad you don't try to impress us with all your knowledge. You just tell us what we need to know and why we should do things in a certain way! Thanks for the tutorials without all the thumping of your own chest!
I just couldnt do it. Too scared to lose some fingers
I'll further your comment "jointers are rarely ever used with perfect stock" by saying jointers are NEVER used with perfect stock. There is no such thing as perfect stock in woodworking.
Now I get it. Best explanation I have heard for this tool.
I occasionally use a magnetic feather board on the outfeed side when edge jointing wide boards. Just gives a little extra assurance the board is tight against the fence.
I like to use a hand plane to knock off the high spots and to make the downward face more stable, especially for removing the rocking between the infeed and outfeed tables.
Why hadn't I thought of that? Thank you.
This was very clear and helpful to a novice such as myself. Although I don’t have a jointer, a friend just bought a 16 inch and is offering to sell me his Delta 8 inch so I have to think hard about this.
Great video The final step of using a table saw to cut the final edge is isn't obvious. Why not just use the jointer for that edge as well. Thinking about it you have the same problem with the edges as the top and bottom - they wouldn't be parallel. So it makes sense to use a table saw to make that final cut so it's parallel with the other edge.
I'm new at woodworking and i was having really serious sniping problems with my jointer. Thanks to your simple video I was able to fix it completely and I was so proud of my little accomplishment. I can't thank you enough, you're an incredibly competent teacher
Definitely agree on the paddles! When you hook a finger over the trailing edge of the board, there's nothing left for the doctor to stitch closed..... Yup, did that.
God was looking out for me. I did that and only lost a little skin and the tip of my nail. No blood. I did need to change my underwear though.
My father was using paddles and still got his fingers nibbled! Left em dangling instead of GRIPPING the paddles.... SMH...
Probably the best video on RUclips explaining jointers. Much appreciated!
BEST explanation! I've been searching for 2 hours to learn "how to confirm a milled plank is square on all sides". Lo and behold, this tutorial explains how a jointer performs that function. Thank you!!! 🙏🏽😊
I have owned a jointer for about 4 years. And until now I was not using it to its full potential until after watching this video. Now I will not be throwing away as much wood to the burn pile as much. Thankyou for the great tip. Keep them coming brother.😊👍
Thank you for these amazing videos, I have run into almost all of these problems and using my jointer will be such a pleasure now.
I want to thank you for never forgetting safety in all your videos. I started watching your channel just before your incident (we never say accident, there's no such thing). I used to know a man who owned a small crane service company. He would not hire a crane operator who had never tipped over a crane. He believed that a person could not fully understand how important it is to work safely unless they've been involved with how bad it can be to not work safely.
Something you said in this video, really stuck with me. It was that you "insist that paddles are used in my shop". There's no one in my shop, except me to insist that I do anything safely. No one is going to shake their head in disbelief or try to stop me from doing something risky. Anytime I do something I know I shouldn't, and get away with it, it just reinforces how "good" I am and emboldens me to take more shortcuts.
This weekend I built a push block for my jointer to replace the one I misplaced weeks ago. Then I cut a slot and glued in a Walnut riving knife for my table saw zero-clearance insert. I just want to thank toy for putting a bug in my ear.
I use a 4 3/8" Craftsman rabbeting jointer mostly because I got it cheap but I like using "classic" tools. Properly set up, even a small jointer can be very useful (& it fits the room i've got for it). I also upgraded the bearings, went from a 1/2 to 3/4 hp motor & sped up the cutter head. It requires almost no sanding on single pieces.
Very good video. Most people know so little about jointers.
The quality of the information in these videos is quite astonishing
Going out to play with the Jointer now that I know where to place pressure. Had been confounded why I could not get anything but curved boards off the darn thing. Great explanation as always.
5 hours later.....
Yep it worked. Loads of flat and jointed cherry waiting for the planer and table saw. Thanks James.... I mean Stumpy... no James.
Contemplating buying a jointer, never used one before. Thank you for making this highly informative instructional video.
I bought that same grizzly jointer with a spiral cutter about a year ago, been very happy with it since. I've never regretted spending money on a good tool.
Super helpful, thank you! This stuff is starting to make more and more sense now. I have hesitated getting into power tools because it seemed very confusing to me. I appreciate that you reference the functions of hand tools!
That temptation to hook your fingers over the end is exactly why I started using paddles. This was back when I had an underpowered jointer, and tried to ask too much of it.
I need to see this video once a year to fresh my memories 😉
Great video, as usual. Loved the line related to cutting with the grain: "If you pet a cat in the wrong direction, someone is going to have a bad day."
I was hoping you'd cover the one piece of info that I rarely see mentioned but I believe is critical for getting flat boards: the majority of the pressure should be applied to moving the board forward, ie lateral. Downward pressure should be enough to keep the board stable on the table but not much more. I've found many to put too much downward pressure which will bow the board and not get you flat.
Another great lesson at Stumpy School. A perfect refresher for safety and efficiency for me and my jointer.
Hi James, I'm about to get my first jointer so this video is extremely useful and one I'm keeping. Keep up the great tutorials. Take care James. Cheers, Huw
Hi James, thanks for the refresher. My paddles are shop made, using kitchen drawer waffle pads for gripping and include two dowels on one end that can be pushed down to hook the end of a board. Thanks always for sharing!
Awesome video, dude! Thanks a lot! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thanks for the tips! I'm new to woodworking and I find your videos super helpful and informative. Thanks again!
Best instructions on using a jointer I've seen to date. Thanks so much for this.
ThankYou for your time!!! I’m relatively new to woodworking but not to power tools or technique. I was a machinist/ toolmaker for 40 years till I retired. I appreciate your willingness to give tips and ideas that a newbie like me can appreciate!! It wasn’t like that in the trades when I started!!! Older journeyman weren’t as willing or quick to give up their lifelong learning experiences, you had to ‘earn’ it for lack of a better word!!! Believe me, a humble attitude went a long way 🙂 You and others are willing to show and teach and I find that a credit to your person. I’ve made an edge planer by just inverting a hand planer and adding a entrance and exit table and attaching it accordingly. It’s ok for edges but after your tutorial I see the benefit of using the tools in sequence ad you’ve directed!!! Thanks again
Instructional, informative, to the point. They don't come any better than the work of Stumpy Nubs. A privilege to subscribe. Thank you!
And remember that fastest way to flatten a board is with a saw 😃. Don't joint boards longer than you actually need. Unless doing some sort of grain wrapping match.
Good point. There no point in milling too much lumber that will be waste anyway
I’m a novice woodworker. This was by far the best information about jointers that I have found. Thank you!
Your knowledge has helped me in my shop on numerous occasions. My oldest son said he enjoys the way you explain how things are done. I agree with him.
Nubs, that was one of, if not, the best explanation on the use of a jointer. Thank you for filming it.
I’ve been skeptical in the past of grizzly tools, especially being accustomed to working in a primarily powermatic shop, but I recently purchased the same jointer shown in this video (G8057) and I have to say it’s a real machine at an unbelievable price compared to other brands. Also the parallelogram jointer of any brand is a huge selling point for me just because of ease of adjustment
FANTASTIC video, James! This is just what I needed. I’m having issues with my 6” Delta jointer (like your old one) but this video has the answers. So much great content here. THANK YOU! 👍🏼
Absolutely outstanding, benchmark video on the use of a jointer. Clear and concise.
Really well-done, comprehensive video on the jointer. Excellent content. Thank you.
Great video
I love my Delta DJ20 jointer and plan on changing the cutter head to a Lux helical cutter head.
I lucked out on a benchtop 6" jointer for $70 at a pawnshop that didn't know what it was. Didn't even need to sharpen the blades (but I did need to adjust their height) Otherwise I'd still be saving and doing the tedious planer jig trick.
Great video as always.
What a great find.
Thank you for all your advice. I’ve been a woodworking hobbyist for long time but it’s amazing what I’ve learned from you. For example, I needed a double taper on a trapezoidal table leg but my taper jig was too limited. Your design worked perfectly. Thank you.
Professor S. Nubs is the best!
There’s only one word to describe the content and production of this video: Excellent. Learning has definitely been achieved.
When my dad was a apprentice his partner once held his hand over the spinning blade,the blade got grip on the wood and yeeted it away leaving the blade and his hand left,the next thing he know is that half of his palm is gone and the jointer got a new paintjob.
Finding your channel on RUclips has been the single most educational source I've seen on all aspects of woodworking. This is journeyman, or master, level stuff. Thanks for doing what you do so well.
Another excellent instructional video! Thank you for all you and your team do James! No matter how much I think I know, you always seem to be able to teach me a few more things...
Thanks again!
Thank you for the video. It is always very informative. The only thing I would have liked to have see\heard in this video would have been to hear the difference between the beginning of the flattening processes and the end so you have a good idea on how many passes it takes and how to determine when enough passes through the jointer has been made before you take the wood to the planer. Other than that...keep up the good work.
WOW.. you talked about using something to push the wood with. GOOD idea. now the gory part. a friend called and asked if I wanted his 8" jointer. His Wife don't want him to have it anymore
after He ""CUT A FINGER OFF DOWN TO THE FIRST JOINT"" True story. I have used a Jointer for 30 years. ""USE PUSH PADS""
The thing I struggle the most with, is flattening cupped boards. I recently did one where I was attempting to remove the cup but no matter how I fed the board, it wouldn’t flatten and it just removed too much material and reduced the thickness too much. I was making maybe 1/32” inch cuts and applying just enough pressure to keep it stable.
In germany we call it Richthobel and Dickenhobel.
Hobel for planing, Richt for right angle, Dicke for thickness :P
i just got a 6" table top jointer. I'm upset becuase I've been trying to build this benchtop forever and i can't get the planks to line up flush. there's always a slight gap
There's so many channels that recommend what tools "to set up your shop", it's nice to see one that instead explains what the tools are actually for and gives you enough info to decide what you need for yourself. Keep up the great work!
Great video, helpful, gets to the point quickly and well presented.
Have been away from WW for along time, did fine on some big honking boards but was sniping my 2"x4" 8 footers. You reminded me of all the thing I was doing wrong :)
Also bonus points for keeping the like/subscribe/comment stuff until the end :)
This was the most informative video I have seen on Jointing. I am buying my jointer tomorrow and have been researching them for a while. Very glad I found your page! Thank you for the great information!
Thanks for this. I have an 8" jointer. Middle $$. I know it's a relative term but how much downward pressure should you be applying to the board? Thanks.
you explained everything so good. Thank you so much. i watched many videos, but they were all full of information that doesnt mean anything xD...
If it cuts from the top, it's a Planer. If it cuts from the bottom, it's a Jointer! If it cuts from the side, it's called a Saw! 😛
I’ve got a 1929 delta 4” jointer I keep mainly for sentimental reasons. I’m putting a helical cutter on my 6” delta, which is my go to machine. Any thoughts on the best use of my vintage 4”, beside display?
I just bought a used, 4 inch Craftsman jointer (got it for cheap). When working on a project, my stock was roughly 3 1/2 inches to start. When finished edge jointing, I found on pretty much all my boards they came out to about 3 1/4 inches on the leading end, and 3 7/16 inches on the trailing end. Any idea why that would be?
Great video. Here in NZ, we don’t call them “jointers”. You are more likely to hear people them call a “Buzzer” or “planer”, since it planes a surface. What you would call a planer in the US we would call a thicknesser in NZ, since it gets the board a certain thickness. Calling them a jointer here and people will ask what the hell are you talking about? :-) keep your videos coming, you’re doing a great job explaining things and I always learn something.
Great video as always! As someone just starting out with more time than money/space, I'll have to make due with the eventual planer + sled and tapering jig on the table saw. Will definitely coming back to this video when I do eventually get a jointer for reference. Keep doing what you do!
Here’s a technique I have developed to deal with twisted, wonky boards. It works well for flattening and edge jointing. I have a Makita brand handheld, carpenter style jointer that hardly ever gets used. By marking the high edges of a rocking board with a pencil, and then rough planing with the Makita, little by little, sighting as I go, I get the board RELATIVELY FLAT (to the eye). Then I use the jointer. If I am edge jointing a board with a large bow or concavity in the edge, I use the same technique to get the board relatively flat to the eye. This technique works especially well when you don’t have a lot of thickness to play with. It allows you to get to the end result very quickly with minimum of wasted time or material. Obviously, a hand tool like a scrub plane would work as well just not as quickly.
Norm Abrams used a 6” jointer for years. He did upgrade to a 8” at some point but he built a lot of projects with a 6” Delta jointer! I have had both the 6” and 8” Delta.
My preference is the 6” because it matches the re-saw capacity of my bandsaw and takes up less floor space. The 8” did have a nice long bed but since I don’t often joint 8’-0’ stock the shorter bed on the 6” jointer has never disappointed . The money gained from selling the 8” jointer bought an excellent used 6” Delta jointer and 14” Delta bandsaw with enclosed stand and fence.
A friend of mine bought the helical cutting head - nice but three straight knives works fine for anything material you are going to buy at a big box store.
thanks again for another great video i just purchased the Wen JT833H 8 inch spiral head jointer, Lowes had a special 20% off your first purchase i dont like credit cards but after my cash down, 2 gift cards and 20% it went from 410 plus tax to 177 after tax i have a planner and table saw so after your videos it can help my woodworking which im still a little new at, about a year or so thanks again
Shout out to the images at 9:51 and 10:10. They are entirely practical depictions that should be shown so much more often.
Because not everyone gets what "with" or "against" the grain means in reality, and are left scratching their heads... "WTH does with the grain mean? Add Weetbix?"
Sure, everyone knows not to pet a cat backwards, but you don't (usually) feed cats into machines. And if you're new to machines you will have trouble with the trifold feed/cutter/grain relationship, and this image should make world of difference to newbies.
Just picked up a 6” jointer and your video was very informative. Thanks for the clear and informative content!
hey Can a Shelix cutter fit in any traditional spiral cutters. ( the individual cutter, not the whole unit.) I know this is not the norm and they would not be going in at an angle as a spiral is straight ahead.But they are 4 sided and could extend spiral cutter head. Put your thinking cap on and don't pull the trigger too quickly on this answer. As you know most of us can't afford a SHELIX cutter. Thx Bruce
Streaks of voids? I used aqua coat on Russian olive table tops, it seemed to make wood finish better but lightened the wood when finished with general satin varnish
My first woodworking project was to build a workbench out of 2x6 boards. All I had at the time the only power tools I had were a Miter Saw and an Electric Drill. Now I have more tools (including a thickness planer, a table saw, and a biscuit jointer) and my skills have improved so I took the flattest board and made a sled the jointed one face and made the other side parallel (both using my planer). After that, I trued and edge then made the other edge parallel (both using my table saw). Next I biscuit jointed everything to bring one side co-planar and glued everything up. Not the top of my bench is a (almost) perfectly flat slab. I did a lot of this based on your previous videos. Would a jointer have been nice? Sure, but for how often I do this, I would rather spend that space and money on something else - maybe a lathe.
Love the video. I knew I wanted a jointer but that's all I ever knew, very helpful and thanks for explaining the Helical head too. I kept hearing about them "They are the best", well why?
Was just casually interested in learning about jointers, but your style got me subscribing and more interested in woodworking.
As a hobbyist, I can't justify the expense or garage space of getting a jointer. But I do have a thicknesser. So if I wish to dress up some rough cut wood for a project, I clamp them together, stand the stack on its edge and run them through the thicknesser. This gives a nice edge to all the boards, then I run them through individually to get the flat sides looking good. It seems to work okay, probably not good enough to edge-joint them but good enough for a nice square edge. I am really careful about where the clamps will be as they go through the machine, I understand about flying bits of metal being an ex-serviceman. Any feedback on this method would be greatly appreciated, I am sure there is something I have forgotten about by doing it this way. Like I said, I am just a hobbyist amateur woodworker. I love your videos, and have learned a lot from them. Keep 'em coming.
9:51 there's a diagram from "WOOD Magazine"; is that a typo in the upper image? Or is 'Cutting Dowhill' a terminology I'm not familiar with?
I need help taking a bow out of a 2x6x6 cedar board. I have the bench top grizzly jointer/planer set up nice and square. I have ran the board through several times and the bow is still in the board. It's frustrating because it seems it works great on the short boards but not so much with the longer stock. Any help would greatly appreciated. I have watched sever videos that you have made on jointing.
Excellent tips. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
This guy seems too young to have this much wisdom and knowledge, but stumpy speaks to the wannabes like me and surely to some experienced craftmen who just didn't notice some of these profoundly simple things that could have saved woodworkers a ton of dust and Home Depot runs. Great podcast
James - I just bought a Jointer and wish I had watched this video before I tried to use it today. There are other videos out there about how to use Jointers, but none of them came close to this one. I was pushing down on my workpiece today and asking myself if it made more sense to push on the outfeed side or not, but I wasn't sure. One question, the manual for the Grizzly benchtop jointer I bought says to make the infeed and outfeed tables level right to left. The manual actually says to make the outfeed table level with the body of the cutterhead - which is spiral (I'd call it semi-helical) and not the blades - and then make that level with the infeed table. There are 4 screws per table so I'm now back to adjusting all of them which is frustruating. This Grizzly jointer looks like a great machine, but one of the screws seems to be stuck so I'm close to sending the whole thing back. Anyhow - maybe I should have just left the tables at the factory settings. A video about this would be great. As you say, these machines are a bit mysterious.
very good, informative vid. I always did wonder about the jointer/planer/table saw thing...