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I have been playing custom games with friends pretty much exclusively. Doing so has made DBD a hell of a lot more fun, we use voice chat on for all of us, the killer and survivors, and we have a ton of laughs. Find a group, play custom, have fun :)
Preach dude, it is super hard to get back into killer. The learning curve is naturally higher as you need to manage 4 people. Hope you spent 10$ on a good killer too. Survivor is base line easier, yet the killers you get are good. Most killers you face will be harder, than before, as the game has filtered out the weak killers. They either play survivor now or don’t play at all. So you get slapped around till you learn to loop… use to play solely killer like 2yrs ago, got 400hrs on console.
You think survivor is easier? Ever since i started playing ive always picked killer over survivor. Surivior is so difficult for me idk what it is@NotTheBomb
@@WhatASausage179 I think the average killer today is of a higher skill set than before, as the weak killers don’t play anymore or just farm. So you get stuck with the dudes who run the meta stuff because they put all their blood points into that killer. Survivor is a little hard at first, but quicker to pick up then killer I believe. Because so quickly you’ll face people that have a clue of what they are doing. Survivor also has a higher population pool, so you have a higher chance of getting a squad of dummies. But I stick by what I said, killer has a higher learning curve than survivor. This killer is harder to learn and perfect than survivor. I played DbD for a little bit again around the Chucky update. would play only survivor for the most part. My teammates, who were my friends, had played way longer than me. Yet they were just bad at the game. Playing hide and seek more than trying to do gens or save other survivors. But I could loop killers, essentially the weaker ones like Wrath. As I understood how they worked. They are strong killers in DbD, but they are all DLC killers, except for Nurse. But on console. You rarely see those.
Yeah, especially that bit on Otz. I love Otz and he's the reason I'm as good at the game as I am today, but he was straight spitting about Otz perpetuating things.
@@01crocyeah 100% I agree with the bit on Otz. He’s a great down to earth player but he perpetuates a bad expectation by apologizing for basic killer strategies, idk what his intentions are but the effect causes severe entitlement to survivors expecting killers to be compassionate 24/7 and they get a rude awakening when the other player is human and tunnels or camps.
After 60 hours, I quit. As a new player, the 3 things that stuck out to me the most were: the aggressive monetization, minimum-wage Iridescent Shards, and an entitled/toxic community that make up rules. I'm also not going to pay over $100 to unlock the full game. I'm also not going to spend 3,000 hours to unlock the full game. I wish this game/community the best of luck. Fun game though.
Good call. If I wasn't such a completionist I too would bail out, the devs are woefully incompetent, the community are toxic tryhards wholesome moments are so rare, the game's balance is a walking shitshow. And I'm on nearly 2000 hours here lol. Better to spend that time on a nice single player game or chill MMO instead imho 😊
Streamer rant ruining dbd so true fr like as killer I’m somehow expected to still give leeway to survivors as if i hadn’t made a bunch of mistakes cuz I don’t even have 50 hours on a killer because that’s not what the top content creators do is so dumb
The cycle of toxic survivors create toxic killers who create toxic survivors is legit Personally when playing either side I’m only toxic if the other side initiates it. Like you tunnel me for 5 Gens or stand there hitting me on hook, yeah I’m teabagging at the exit gates. Teabag during chase then I’ll hit on hook once or twice.
@theunexplainablecrumbs4387 I do the same thing so I have easier archives lol. Once all tomes are completed and I know all the maps 100%, sure, hit me with your best shot! Fire awaaaaay!
Not even that. You'll go to hit them to interrupt, and not only did you not interrupt them, but somehow, you hit the hooked survivor through the one going for the save
every time I play im stressed, even when I get 4 kills I'm still stressed. I recently downloaded the game and played 2 matches and then uninstalled. the game is boring and stressful to play. Its the only game that ever stresses me out
Yeah the problem for me is that I’ve got adhd and my brain is used to stress, so naturally DBD is addicting as fuck because there’s no game like it that makes me juggle four people at once mentally, it sucks and I’m aware of it but am powerless to stop myself from seeing Merciless Killer over and over again until maybe one day I quit.
It is a unique feeling in DBD. You get a real rush on either side when you win. I often let people out just to show I could have 4k'd. It's all for fun if you just try focus on kills and not gens or gate.
The community is what's wrong with the game. You get 90% of the community being sweats and toxic trying to finish the match fast even using distant camp and tunnelling which is strategic to them then just trash talk to each other. The 10% of the players either invests in the match like as killer, they play about with the survivors, when 2 gens get fixed, they play serious till 1 player is Sacrificed, when there's 1 more gen left, then the killer gets 100% serious and attempts to win. The other part of the 10% is the killers literally giving the survivors blood points to a high amount. Yet sometimes these 10% gets treated like shit when they are trying to be nice and play fair. Hell another reason for the 10% to be nice is probably to give the survivors a chance on trophies and achievements too and the toxic players will still say they are shit when they could be helping either them or another survivor. No offence too but Xbox or PC players may have more toxic players than what psn has as I don't get toxic messages form another psn player.
I remember I was a killer main for a long while but swapped to survivor for a minute. I was doing a hex totem and I thought a Mikaela was messing around. Well I finished the totem and I got tunneled out. The Mikaela then messaged me after the game saying that it was my fault they lost. And I was just like, well I understand what I did. I did it and I didn’t know people still run haunted ground (I usually don’t neither do my friends) and I paid for my own demise but to blame it on me was insane.
I’ve been playing for almost six years and I can say that I’ve not received a single message from killer mains or casual killer players that were toxic. It has always been survivors and I’ve had to change my privacy settings on PS5 to friends only. Call me a coward, weak, pussy, whatever. I’d rather not deal with the toxicity from randoms I’ll more than likely not go up against again anytime soon.
15:00 THAT (besides the community) is the biggest issue. That the most boring play styles are the most efficient. If the game punished those plays but rewarded doing exactly NOT that then I think the game would feel more healthy. All those rules would go away and both sides can relax a little more (also we need casual/comp modes). Killers won't have to hear the bitching all the time and survivors will be able to play more and have more interactive matches.
@@syaknikwaMajority of those type of people are unemployed or work 20 hours a week. They have no life goals and just play DBD as if they are some paid comp players.
I think what finally made me leave. This game permanently was when I came back after 3 months of being away from the game and decided to get the newest killer at the time that was Chucky and then a swf Completely destroyed me, made it out of the gate. And I knew they were going to tea. Bag me at the gate. So I decided not to go to the gate and ignore them until they finally left, They then sent me a message later on And kept asking me over and over again why I didn't come to the gate.I told them that I didn't want to be there for them to just mock me before leaving and they had the Nerve to say you Lost, so just take your tea bag and leave.
13:35 Thank You.. I was watching a video 2 weeks ago. And the killer was tunneling and he was constantly saying sorry. It was unbearable to watch. Bro was playing like he got a feng min with an infrared light point between his eyes.
I think Otz saying sorry is more due to the fact he doesnt want to tunnel/camp people out, because he knows its not fun for the person on the other side, but he also is aware that sometimes he has to do it to win or even get a tie in a game, I feel the same way and I guarantee you if someone came off hook with BT and bodyblocked Otz from someone else he absolutely would not apologise in that situation. I also think adding a mechanic that regresses or blocks gens whenever you hook a UNIQUE survivor would go a long way to make people not need to tunnel so much to get wins, basically like Grim Embrace base kit or something
13:11 i agree with this so much, i used to watch otz when i first joined the game , and now i cant because he i saw him apologize for tunneling , which is part of a killer's job in a sense, he caters way too much for me
I have a suggestion for the variety and toxic swf problem. If playing swf survivors all cant have the same perks. One perk per suvivor so only one person can run unbreakable and the other have to pick other perks, no survivor has the same perks.This forces new or less used perks to be used and brings variety and prevents toxic behavior in terms of relying on OP perks.
Does it still not have a ranked mode? I just got dbd mobile last week and it has the mode. It's the only version I can play because it's free and my laptop would catch fire if I open anything steam related.
Problem with a ranked mode is now the player base us split and you absolutely know 100% there are SWFs out there that will abuse casual and smurf the hell out of killers in casual.
Most games have a casual mode and have zero issues with the split. The playerbase isn’t so minuscule that a split would destroy the entire game😭 Also, comp players won’t exclusively just play the ranked mode, they’ll still play both. And lastly, the last thing isn’t an issue to mention being associated with having a ranked playlist because.. THAT’S ALREADY HAPPENING😭😭😭😭 atleast give those goblins an option for a ranked playlist! Because now EVERYBODY is ALWAYS forced to play with them. This is already going on, and a ranked mode would take a bulk of those players out of the pool because a lot of those players really just want competitive matches.
@@QuietKills Fair and true points, probably not as much an issue I originally thought. There were cases during the My Little Oni silly mode where survivors would hide like rats or a killer slugging for 4ks in a silly game mode. That's the kind of community people that scare my casual ass.
The big issue that doesn't get addressed enough is the sheer number of cheaters using hacked games in DBD that BHVR still hasn't done anything about. That is what will ultimately kill the game off. It's already happening where most normal players have left the game and it's filled with a lot of cheating players.
They’re not wrong i dont play killer that much no more cause of the toxic survivors i dont feel like getting t bagged at the exit gates ima admit one thing u was right theres hatred on this game everytime i lose a killer match i hop on survivor and t bag the killer😭
I agree that the COMMUNITY is the worst part of the game. As someone who has played about 70-80% of my playtime on killer I can tell you we feel the brunt of it. HOWEVER, I hate the obnoxious second chance perks etc but the devs are ultimately where the buck stops with them. Survivors can’t abuse buckle up and for the ppl if it wasn’t in the game. Survivors can’t get gens done in 20-30 seconds with a toolbox exploit like we had for weeks UNLESS the devs put ut in the game. So even tho I think ur a piece of garbage for using the stuff they have, ultimately the devs put it in the game and they deserve to be held responsible for there dog shit decisions.
I can’t really say I’ve had a negative experience playing killer and I play on pc, but I know the toxicity is there. I think what bothers me is when I first started playing killer I was already going against people who had their perks maxed while I either can’t use any or they’re not really conducive to the killer I’m using. At the same time it pushed me to be better but still a weird system.
cooking, my biggest problem is the grind the blood moon event taught me we need a increase and made me quit after because it felt so bad after it ended
One of the biggest issues is the "competitive" players. They brag that they have 10k hours as if thats impressive for such an old game. Those are casual fgc player numbers. And they call everything a "tech" thats not a tech. Walking backwards or standing still on a boat are not "techs"
The fact that they don't actually explain mechanics for certain killers anywhere in the UI is absolutely pathetic. I was playing plague, who I had played a decent amount, and was wondering wtf was happening because I kept losing my power against a team that kept using head on. I thought it was bugged or something, until I finally realized I was losing it by getting stunned. As far as I can tell, there is NOWHERE that is explained. You just have to KNOW. This is a problem with a TON of killers, there is just nowhere in game that important mechanics are explained or described. There is genuinely no excuse for that.
When I first got messages from ppl crying about tunneling, I thought they were talking about my ability to teleport through biopods. But yeah it turns out they just believe im not allowed to kill survivors one at a time. I also learned quickly as a survivor that if I'm first to go on hook, then the killer is going to target me more. It's simple common game sense.
I just uninstalled today. Im not going to entertain the survivor or killer aspect of the argument because its pointless. I will say this, I came across a p100 spririt for 4 games in a row that camped at 4 gens and slugged everyone. Didnt even hook, just let us bleed out and even came across a hillbilly that was hacking. Even when i play killer, the game is just not fun. I know people are just going to say skill issue instead of holding the devs accountable for this god-forsaken community. Either way, im good lol yall have fun with this im finna touch grass. Great vid btw!
To be fair their doing that in protest of the decisive strike buff if we can’t pick you up bleed out kid you got stupid fast heal and recovery on ground now and 3 second chances I have to bleed through so once I get you I’m gonna leave you to bleed you survivors won’t be kind or show me any mercy I won’t either.
@@spookieboogi6161This is the problem right here. Dude, it's a video game. Stop talking to the other side like they're your ops or something. Go outside and touch grass talking like this. Weirdo
@@sebastianwilliams4553 lol it’s called an opinion chief you voiced yours I voiced mine wanna know why I have this mentality because I played skull merchant once got a 4k then a kid got mad doxxed my wife and sent a death threat to her she’s a teacher completely uninvolved my wife and my first child my unborn son had his life threatened because of a game! How about you touch grass? Its survivors who spread this toxicity only when I’m killer will I get doxxed or receive an essay about how I’m and because they got carried by perks I don’t take this game seriously hense why I left. Like your own comment all you want chief but sorry not sorry want this mentality to stop? It begins with the majority aka survivors. If they don’t change their mentality then the rest of the community will follow.
@@sebastianwilliams4553 and the other side started the us versus them mentality streamers perpetuated it they constantly push broken perk combos constantly try their best to annoy killers for clicks and views it makes the game way to competitive and every match winds up being the same 4 survivors all with meta perks all with the intent to troll almost every game I have to act like I’m trying out for the Olympics I have to sweat because survivors want to if I win I get harassed for days if I lose I get an essay from some swf telling me how terrible I am because I didn’t feel like dealing with their 4 health states. 4 actions for 1 reward to dang many steps.
as spirit main i started to bleed all 4 players too i have to get ready for the DS buff otherwise i have to deal with 100000000000 second chances!! why should i ? i can just bleed you in 4 min and game is over if i hooke you then game gonna last longer and you tbag me to say ezz :D so ezzz my ass get bleed out kid
11:54 good point, but I actually learned how to loop ghosts in phasmophobia, and boo men from being able to loop the killer in dbd, very niche and specific skill translation, but its pretty cool how the skills did translate
1:28 The community is toxic but in my opinion the game is mainly at fault, there is a famous saying that says : " Blame the game, not the gamer " Yes a side can bring a map offering, tunnel, genrush, abuse it along perks, glitches and even holding the other side hostage but they can only do so because the game, BHVR allows them to. They could easily fix / rework map offerings, game mechanics, op perks, make sure there is no exploit and less hackers but they rather make Feng Ming skins
I'd like to have alternate game modes besides the basic experience; that 2v8 killer mode they proposed sounded AWESOME and the Hide & Seek mode with always-active-Mori (guessing if you get Two Downs on a Surv, you can Mori) sounded cool too. A nice way to encourage new playstyles would be to add new mechanics too. Maybe survivors can board up windows or use time to repair broken doors, maybe add a *fake* exit door to troll survivors, or even doing something besides hooks and Mori for getting kills -- down someone more than 4 times? Dead. Adding an insta-kill pit in ONE spot on the map that killers can throw a single survivor down before it locks, maybe give the option for a killer to tie someone up if they grab them in a locker instead of having to hook them -- I dunno I'm just a dude trying to contribute to changes for the better. Just my opinions.
Great insights QK! Congrats on 45k. My 2 cents: I play on ps5, still enjoy the game although there's subtle hackers every other game, but since there's no endgame chat on console and my messages are only open to friends I'm not bothered that much 😂
Yeah honestly watching your content has been super refreshing compared to all the other creators pretending to be so nice and not care about the outcome of the game. it just becomes boring to watch there’s no stakes if they win or lose or if they even pretend to care. And also they are the same people who get annoyed about tunneling, camping or other made up rules why you shouldn’t do this or that or you’re a dick. Just play how you want, learn how to counter the things you don’t like
@4:42 Dude I ain't even gonna lie, adding dumb shit like this to the game would actually do wonders as a form of pressure release, cause I doubt even the saltiest survivor would be able to keep a straight face with Nemesis chasing them while hitting the griddy, I'd go down from wheeze laughing too hard.
I stopped buying any new killer after they butchered Sadako when she was finally good. All it took was bad survivors never touching tapes, and her kill rate skyrocketed...then nerfed. So, after that, and the sanitization of skill expression and boring new additions to the game, I stopped playing. Haven't touched the game since February. (Only logged on to put in BP codes) Bad survivors will keep this game at toddler level, and it makes me miss the old days when it was pure chaos. I don't care about toxicity, as I came from harder stuff, like Counter Strike 1.6, so all I care about is a good game, and BHVR is dropping the ball.
Idc what some streamer is doing, if someone i hooked ends up in front of me before i see anyone else theyre going back on that hook with the quickness.
This game hasn’t changed much in terms of how it’s played. It’s been the same (arguably) since launch. Looping is so BORING no matter if you’re playing killer or survivor. Running around a safe pallet/window for the entirety of the game isn’t fun. I wish they implemented more ways to escape and more ways to travel around the map to change the game a bit.
Loaded into a game last night as a Vanity mirror Mikey w/ a farming build on, got sent to Eyrie of Crows against a 4 man that brought all the busted survivor meta bs and they taunted at Gates. Didn’t get to me tho’ I was chilling but I can see how an experience like that would ruin the game for the casual player.
Like you once said, “does Behaviour even play their own game” also people forget it’s just a game… like chill touch some grass and stop being so toxic. Not to mention all the hacking
Mah boi you earned a new sub, this is exactaly how I feel about the game and Dbd has been like a toxic relationship towards me, your very real with your content and you do your own thing, props bro!
I played the game in 2018 and 2019 as a killer for fun and would get nonstop messages from lunatics after 90% of the games I finished just spazzing out for how I played regardless what I did. Worst community ever
If this is how the game is, I'm glad I left when I did. I left this game around when Wesker was announced. Ive seen the ups and downs that this game has come acrossed. I was more of a survivor main than killer but I can tell you, most of my hate/toxic messages came from this game. I escape the match and the killer messages me AFTER the match "Toxic" "swf" "Broken survivor perks" When I get a 4k as a killer when I'm not even trying or trying to finish a challenge "Toxic" "tunneler" "You're not even good, had to camp" It's the ultimate lose-lose game I have ever played. The idea of the game is fun but people have made this game officially ranked mode 24/7. Can't run any meme builds unless you're in a swf. Don't get me started as a solo survivor which was 60% of my gameplay time. I loved this game, like the ideas but what the direction the community wants to go and how devs want to push out cosmetics than actual gameplay is the main reason I had to dropped the game. Why support a company/group or whatever behavior wants to be, when the main focus is outfits than new modes, new interaction for a survivor so killers could set up more, just ideas really and could test it in PTB but nah just need to see if my bunny ears are flapping while I'm running away from the killer. Overall I like this game but dang this community is toxic unless it's YOUR fun that's happening if that's not happening than this game sucks and toxic.
Preach. I came back to the game after a 3 year break about 7 months ago. Nothing has been worse than the SBMMR change and the further bracket tightening and absolutely for the reason you gave - variety is entirely dead, every match is the same. When I found out about it, I even saw an Otz video of him on the PTB before it went live and he made an offhand remark saying that would be the outcome. Every time I post in a Reddit thread that SBMMR is the worst thing they've ever added to the game I get downvoted and get the same survivors who do not play both sides saying 'you just want to club seals' essentially. It's fucking stupid. I do not understand people who only play half the game and then dig in on the US vs THEM shit at all either. BONUS: After this next patch we will be going back in time to the 2019/2020 (when I played before quitting) meta of DS/DH/Unbreakable and probably still Adrenaline since a 5 second DS is hilariously stupid. EDIT: The old rank system was better, if you wanted to sweat to get that Iri 1 you did, if you didn't want sweaty games you didn't have to and it reset. Now there is no decay and no matter what you're stuck where you are once you get high enough - this is especially true for killer. You can read the mechanics to see why deadbydaylight.fandom.com/wiki/Skill-Based_Matchmaking_Rating
Let me just say this. If the identity of the developers was public or at least there was a way for the players of the game to have direct access to the devs you can 100% bet there would be more changes to this game and there would be changes fast because I beleive 100% that the devs have never experienced the community that they are growing and fostering but if they did and they saw what is really going on inside their game OR if they had these fans @ them constantly on twitter and shit... They would know
personally for me, i'd say it's all about a match feeling deserved for me. if a team is rocking the best perks in the game, but using them in a normal way and not abusing them, the loss feels deserved. if i can think back to something i could've done differently that could've got me the win, i feel like the loss is deserved. but when i can't think of a single thing i could've done differently because i was just getting hit by perk after perk. that's when it feels like an undeserved loss. same thing goes for the other way around. winning against a team/killer that's clearly trying to have fun doesn't feel deserved, so i usually try to chill out that game to have some fun with them.
4 months later and this is still true. My first game on this game was killer and at first it was fun. Turns out it was a bully squad and i got teabagged at the gates. I have abt 400 hours. 20 of those on killer. But, thanks to your content i can play killer and enjoy it. Thank you, Quietkills.
Alot of the problem with people in this game is simply thin skin. I'm an old school shit talker and absolutly love making people rage in message or on coms. So, the toxic massages after a match have me soaring on cloud nine, ohhhhh love to see it.
5 months later, there are still no stats for killer powers, (Like the actual numbers for how quickly a power can be used, it's length in meters, how long hinders last, etc) or a little compendium for survivors to quickly read what each killer does, which can be on the side of the UI, or even something you can click on while the game is loading or while you are in-game. Most people don't go online to study for a game, so why they can't just tell you what powers actually do is stupid. Not to mention there are small little secrets hidden inside killer powers that don't get mentioned at all, but they are there.
Whats funny is that dbd mobile HAS MODES, RANKED, QUICK MATCH AND BOT MODE and its fun to play on dbd mobile with all its new cosmetics, moris and as well as modes but yet dbd on console and pc we get crap just feng min cosmetics 😑
I started playing death slinger yesterday for the first time and my second game I got a swf team who brought me to Macmillan map, long story short I ended up getting the 4K, they came to my stream and started making excuses immediately “I just got back to playing after 5 months your trash” it’s like when I play killer or survivor you just can’t fun anymore, I even said ggwp to them and said they played really good. and none of that mattered to them, they just immediately went for toxicity
The game naturally breeds this. The killer HAS TOO take out ATLEAST two survivors just to be considered “good” by the game. If I get 10hooks but only two kills, I just passed the minimum bar. If I get 8hooks and they all escape, I’m bad according to the game… With survivor if you have a bad killer, you get NOTHING for points. You have to have a good killer, yet not too good. Because if you die, you basically miss out on 5k points. Yet the killer is HIGHLY incentivized to kill a minimum of two players. Also, inherently, the killer is supposed to be strong. So either bad survivors and an average killer, they get flooooored. But a peak killer verses a peak survivor, survivor wins. Only exception? Nurse, Blight, Chucky, and The Ghost lady. Every other killer is UNDER powered compared to those killers. Anyway, there’s my rant. I have about 300hrs (edit: 400-500hrs, I checked) on console. This is considered rookie numbers, even by otz….
This is mostly going to be from a killer perspective. DBD the game is fine. DBD the community, I don't think I've ever seen such a *soft* group of players in my entire life. Maybe it's just endless rounds of WSG and AV in WoW, where yeah, one side is running horse shit, but so are you, but you didn't hear about the complaining, just "Welp, we got our asses whooped. Let's go again!" . The community does nothing but complain. "This is broken." "That is broken." "That perk sucks, use this perk" *glares at Lightborn* . You're criticized for running a perk that, say there's two Hex: Idiots in the lobby, same character, same cosmetics, both with Flashlights...yeah, I'm going to bring Lightborn. "Oh, I can look up/away/etc." Valid point. But I really don't WANT to have to do that. I'd rather have some moron trying to give me a seizure only to not realize I'm doing the thing that negates their strategy. And you get grief over it. Seemingly EVERY killer is broken, well, probably with the exception of Freddy due to a strong lack of interest. Yet, in the mean time, those playing Survivor have zero problem pissing killers off with their dumb bullshit. And I don't mean being skilled players, I mean things like bully squads, everyone running meta perks and throwing in map offerings to unbalanced realms, etc. You know exactly what I mean, you make videos about destroying those bastards nearly every day, and God bless you for it. As I write this, it's 6:35 PM. I've been up for 13 hours, had a 45 minute drive home in a car with no AC. And I would love to hope on and just have some fun with Dead by Daylight. But part of me knows I'm just going to run into the same bullshit. Survivors doing cheap bullshit and having the audacity to either plead for mercy after I somehow get them on a death hook down or wondering why in the hell I disconnected after five minutes of non stop bullshit at Ormond. I feel like solutions *could* be implemented to solve some of these, to a degree. First, split the survivors into two groups: SWF and Solo. And from there Survivors select which queue they want to join; they could join both if they want due to some obvious possibly mismatches that could stall a lobby. Killers get the same option - Do they want to face SWFs, Mixed or just Solo teams. SWFs and Mixed provides bonus BP for everyone involved. it's not a perfect solution, it doesn't solve meta perks or OP combinations on both sides of the fence, but it's a start. Also, being able to minimize or disable the post-game chat box would be appreciated -_- . But those are my ideas.
Yeah I will be taking a longer break from this game. The amount of subtle cheaters, the unfair and unbalanced maps, the frustrating reality of playing an m1 killer, the constant pressure and stress while playing killer, the toxic community and the weird decision making by the devs made me take a break. I really recommend Helldivers 2 and Content Warning....so much more fun. Good video QK and dbd is just not in a fun spot for me right now.
*Yeah I'll be fr, this is why I play DBD mobile because for some reason there is a quick play and ranked play but somehow they still haven't added that to the main game. It legit takes the stress off because I can play chill without worrying about my rank going down while still getting the exact same rewards I would in ranked incidence shards ext.*
bad thing is quick play becomes a sweat camp when season ending is close. Cuz all sweaty mfs alr climb to top sooner and will only play quick play to not risk ranks. Happens a lot rn, for this season i was not that active but i saw full p100 team on quick play twice, never saw a single survivor higher than p50 in ranked. Also bots mode is really good for blood points, i saw people that play real dbd complain about grind after bloodmoon event ended, making them realize how hard grinding is one more time.
I’ve had a survivor DC on me because I was able to down him within seconds. He waited the whole match just to shit talk me. The OTHER survivors were mad becuz I didn’t start playing nice to compensate for the DC. The community is ass. Devs can’t run a game nor have the balls to change real things. But I spent money so now I’m invested.
The best example of devs not playing their game is when they only removed ''instablind'' when the game director got bullied on a stream back in the day xD
It is frustrating how toxic people can be in this game; I try to focus on not stressing out about the game or the gameplay/community and try to just have fun and enjoy the game as much I can whether I win or lose and that’s helped a lot. But I do admittedly get a LOT of anxiety if I happen to play “mean” because I was having a rough game because I’m always afraid of how survivors will react. I dunno I just feel like treating it as what it is and trying to not stress or get upset about it seems to help way more than taking everything under my skin if that makes sense. Maybe I’m supporting a bad game but I absolutely love Dead by Daylight and probably will for a long time to come and I try not to let things ruin it even if it seems overwhelming.
To be honest I love all of the toxicity I feed off the energy as a killer, and yes they need a competitive ranked mode so all of the competitive players can leave the pub players alone.
This is what happens when they do not add comp mode to dbd. Pubs is just filled with idiots Lol. Ofc you all are not going to enjoy the game like we comp players do.
I just uninstalling a few days ago because of these issues. I was a killer main that had all killers, and all were p1. I was a good nice killer till about 2022, then that's when I started tunneling and camping and even worse, getting mad. I hope u take those bully squads down. 👍
I remember when I first started playing this game (As Killer) and my friends were watching me play. I'd smack a survivor on hook while saying something playful (not out of malice, but because I was just having fun dicking around), and then my friends would say "nooooo don't do that, that's BM." I was SO confused. I was like "...I'm the killer? I feel like it's not out-of-character to attack someone if I'm the killer." Anyway, now I don't hit survivors on hook (unless they're being toxic). BUT YEAH, relating that all to the point in the video about how content creators have given various interactions meaning--It's quite silly.
I have around 200 hours now, somewhat evenly distributed between killer and survivor. I still don't know how to counter like 70% of the killers, I can only counter the few killers I own😭
Playing in the BoneChill Event, Except for players who didn't get the memo, most of my games as The Killer during BoneChill is just throwing Skullballs at each other, until the engines get repaired. Except for the Flashdicks and Kareer Killers stuck in their Bittersweet Modes, most players just enjoy goofing around. 🙂 There's more ways to play, than just Gen-Flash-Slug-Hook-Repeat.
As a killer main that was there for the console releases I can say that pallet vortexes and original Decisive with original Dead Hard was absolute suffering. They even nerfed the only counter for DS at the time which was dribbling before they even considered removing DS. The Devs were always at a disconnect from the community but at least there weren't any hackers on console
it does not matter if it's DBD or not does not matter where you go you will find people that don't like how you play in every game and when I get called a camper I just say what you gonna do about it
i love how the devs STILL havent fixed pyramid head they nerfed him once slaughtered his cake then never fixed the shitty feeling of his m2 or the fact his trails are more deadly then his range
I got DBD on ps4 and everytime I lose or win. People would start sending me messages telling me how I was trash. I basically started playing the game again since chucky. And it’s still the same. I bought Dbd on Nintendo switch just because they aren’t able to send messages to you on that platform. Dbd is no bueno anymore
Bro i haven't played this game since nemesis was released, and bro i was shocked to find out that they removed killer hook grabs and now you can't cancel hook saves🤔
yeah DBD Skill won't translate to any other games. but i still think my time spent on DARK SOULS 3 PvP could translate to any fighting games, but i just simply choose not to get into fighting games since DARK SOULS 3 PvP weren't super toxic. usually the toxic players gets flattened by actual good players and they quit the game. i tried playing DBD and it's not for me. i've met lot of sweat lord killers and survivors with meta setup that my barebone base game perks and characters won't be able to keep up. and yeah ofc they shit talked on the end game chat just classic same type of behavior on DOTA 2. imma just sticking to souls series and some single players genres.
I remember when video games were fun. And the most competitive thing you did was talk s-hit to your buddy next to you on the couch while you play golden eye. Noone got mad. Somehow, having fun has changed to "winning" the match. Really sad.
This is what I think, you have people like me who just wanna play and have fun, and then you have the bad people who ruin the fun with their toxicity. The community is making this game bad
I've been in dbd since 2020 and I think that the biggest problem are the developers: 1- 75% of the time they don't know what they are doing 2- They don't play their own game 3- 75% of the time they dont listen to feedback 4- They take a LOT of time to fix and improve the killers, maps, perks, addons, etc I stand on the point that they are the worst thing of this game.
Reminds me of For Honor, a lot of balance issues, community toxicity, fair/unfair "rules" made by players, cheaters, etc... but the game itself is so unique
All games have toxicity. But unlike most games there is no real way to be positive.. you can gg late game when most leave. But thats it. So, probably most encounters are positive, but you seem neutral at best... My take is you see only negative stuff so it seems like all of it is toxic.
As i mentioned on Instagram, I was trying Doctor out and first game I had a quitter and the survivors were just goofing off and not really playing. The second Doctor game the server crashed on me in the middle of the game and I didn’t get any BP. Felt like I wasted my time
there's lots of great asymmetrical horror games out there and they all have one thing in common: all their populations die... because everyone else is playing DbD. Why? I have no idea
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Can you make a discord server you def could make one many would join and just chill
I have been playing custom games with friends pretty much exclusively. Doing so has made DBD a hell of a lot more fun, we use voice chat on for all of us, the killer and survivors, and we have a ton of laughs. Find a group, play custom, have fun :)
I meannnn complain all you want, we got a new Feng Min skin so the games pretty much balanced ☝️
This is NOT Silent Hill, dont fuel the same fire and put out some Silent Hills videos you WEAK scared little bitch 😂❤
You don’t wanna know )
DBD basically feels like the lore of the game. An infinite limbo of pain and anger, Plus a few half naked people and a K-pop singer.
45k quiet kills becoming loud kills
He's about to be loud revives
i had to show the homies this mans peak content fr
He’s growing fast ngl
@@lilaczeus67578same here he is my favourite dbd youtuber
Every time I'm like "hey maybe I should get back to DbD" I get reminded why I shouldn't.
Preach dude, it is super hard to get back into killer. The learning curve is naturally higher as you need to manage 4 people. Hope you spent 10$ on a good killer too. Survivor is base line easier, yet the killers you get are good. Most killers you face will be harder, than before, as the game has filtered out the weak killers. They either play survivor now or don’t play at all. So you get slapped around till you learn to loop… use to play solely killer like 2yrs ago, got 400hrs on console.
You think survivor is easier? Ever since i started playing ive always picked killer over survivor. Surivior is so difficult for me idk what it is@NotTheBomb
@@WhatASausage179 I think the average killer today is of a higher skill set than before, as the weak killers don’t play anymore or just farm. So you get stuck with the dudes who run the meta stuff because they put all their blood points into that killer.
Survivor is a little hard at first, but quicker to pick up then killer I believe. Because so quickly you’ll face people that have a clue of what they are doing. Survivor also has a higher population pool, so you have a higher chance of getting a squad of dummies. But I stick by what I said, killer has a higher learning curve than survivor. This killer is harder to learn and perfect than survivor.
I played DbD for a little bit again around the Chucky update. would play only survivor for the most part. My teammates, who were my friends, had played way longer than me. Yet they were just bad at the game. Playing hide and seek more than trying to do gens or save other survivors. But I could loop killers, essentially the weaker ones like Wrath. As I understood how they worked. They are strong killers in DbD, but they are all DLC killers, except for Nurse. But on console. You rarely see those.
@NotTheBomb I'm pretty casual I wouldn't say I'm any good at killer. I usually jump between killers I get bored after a few matches of the same one. I
You're the villain this community needs 😂
This guy is the dbd messiah
He’s not the hero this community deserves but the one it needs.
Yeah, especially that bit on Otz. I love Otz and he's the reason I'm as good at the game as I am today, but he was straight spitting about Otz perpetuating things.
@@01crocyeah 100% I agree with the bit on Otz. He’s a great down to earth player but he perpetuates a bad expectation by apologizing for basic killer strategies, idk what his intentions are but the effect causes severe entitlement to survivors expecting killers to be compassionate 24/7 and they get a rude awakening when the other player is human and tunnels or camps.
After 60 hours, I quit. As a new player, the 3 things that stuck out to me the most were: the aggressive monetization, minimum-wage Iridescent Shards, and an entitled/toxic community that make up rules. I'm also not going to pay over $100 to unlock the full game. I'm also not going to spend 3,000 hours to unlock the full game. I wish this game/community the best of luck. Fun game though.
Good call. If I wasn't such a completionist I too would bail out, the devs are woefully incompetent, the community are toxic tryhards wholesome moments are so rare, the game's balance is a walking shitshow. And I'm on nearly 2000 hours here lol. Better to spend that time on a nice single player game or chill MMO instead imho 😊
@@TheLogicalBeast Spent at least 1000 on playstation. the game looks crazier than when I last played
Y'all remember the bubba controversy with black face and Claudette?! 💀😭
And thats when the community had a bunch of racist bubba killers going after only black survivors nobody talks about that part of the community
the devs never intended it to be racist but I remember
@@DomKillsbut people were in FACT targeting black survivors in the community with the blackface i feel it was intended
i participated in that
@@Jonsual-gu4zethat doesn’t mean it’s intended? The art and design department isn’t responsible for bad apples in the community
Streamer rant ruining dbd so true fr like as killer I’m somehow expected to still give leeway to survivors as if i hadn’t made a bunch of mistakes cuz I don’t even have 50 hours on a killer because that’s not what the top content creators do is so dumb
The cycle of toxic survivors create toxic killers who create toxic survivors is legit
Personally when playing either side I’m only toxic if the other side initiates it. Like you tunnel me for 5 Gens or stand there hitting me on hook, yeah I’m teabagging at the exit gates. Teabag during chase then I’ll hit on hook once or twice.
I just realized Quiet Kills is the Joker of dbd
DBD is fun at a low MMR/casual level, at a high level you have to put in way too much effort for way too little payoff.
There is a streamer I watch who will only escape via hatch or let themself die at the end to keep their mmr low lmao
@theunexplainablecrumbs4387 I do the same thing so I have easier archives lol. Once all tomes are completed and I know all the maps 100%, sure, hit me with your best shot! Fire awaaaaay!
@@biscuitgoblinswhat a joke of a streamer SMH
Not even that. You'll go to hit them to interrupt, and not only did you not interrupt them, but somehow, you hit the hooked survivor through the one going for the save
THAT IS SOOOOO ANNOYING!!! It 100% prioritizes the hooked person! It’s so annoying lol
every time I play im stressed, even when I get 4 kills I'm still stressed. I recently downloaded the game and played 2 matches and then uninstalled. the game is boring and stressful to play. Its the only game that ever stresses me out
Yeah the problem for me is that I’ve got adhd and my brain is used to stress, so naturally DBD is addicting as fuck because there’s no game like it that makes me juggle four people at once mentally, it sucks and I’m aware of it but am powerless to stop myself from seeing Merciless Killer over and over again until maybe one day I quit.
It is a unique feeling in DBD. You get a real rush on either side when you win. I often let people out just to show I could have 4k'd. It's all for fun if you just try focus on kills and not gens or gate.
we need a mode where everyone gets random perks /add on , no offering
Would be cool if you could mod the game so you can add custom modes like that (idk if the game is moddable lol, I don’t play it.)
@@nobbyfirefly57 it is but just graphics, changing colors or character portrait.
Payday 2 has the craziest mods
@@Copperliquid so you can‘t replace the killer with Thomas the tank engine then?
We did got it but it was short lived like the no perk + dark mode
Heyyyy it just got added
The community is what's wrong with the game. You get 90% of the community being sweats and toxic trying to finish the match fast even using distant camp and tunnelling which is strategic to them then just trash talk to each other.
The 10% of the players either invests in the match like as killer, they play about with the survivors, when 2 gens get fixed, they play serious till 1 player is Sacrificed, when there's 1 more gen left, then the killer gets 100% serious and attempts to win.
The other part of the 10% is the killers literally giving the survivors blood points to a high amount.
Yet sometimes these 10% gets treated like shit when they are trying to be nice and play fair.
Hell another reason for the 10% to be nice is probably to give the survivors a chance on trophies and achievements too and the toxic players will still say they are shit when they could be helping either them or another survivor.
No offence too but Xbox or PC players may have more toxic players than what psn has as I don't get toxic messages form another psn player.
The funny thing is when I get salty messages it’s never from killers it’s always survs I play more surv lately then killer and just noticed that
I’ve only gotten a few GG WPs in my entire 2 years of playing yet I’ve sent many (Killer main)
I remember I was a killer main for a long while but swapped to survivor for a minute. I was doing a hex totem and I thought a Mikaela was messing around. Well I finished the totem and I got tunneled out. The Mikaela then messaged me after the game saying that it was my fault they lost. And I was just like, well I understand what I did. I did it and I didn’t know people still run haunted ground (I usually don’t neither do my friends) and I paid for my own demise but to blame it on me was insane.
Frl survivors bitch about everything and say we do yeah bs
I’ve been playing for almost six years and I can say that I’ve not received a single message from killer mains or casual killer players that were toxic. It has always been survivors and I’ve had to change my privacy settings on PS5 to friends only. Call me a coward, weak, pussy, whatever. I’d rather not deal with the toxicity from randoms I’ll more than likely not go up against again anytime soon.
@@HisIridescentQueen so true
15:00 THAT (besides the community) is the biggest issue. That the most boring play styles are the most efficient. If the game punished those plays but rewarded doing exactly NOT that then I think the game would feel more healthy. All those rules would go away and both sides can relax a little more (also we need casual/comp modes).
Killers won't have to hear the bitching all the time and survivors will be able to play more and have more interactive matches.
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Honestly DBD gameplay wise is amazing and will always be dear to my heart but the community is the problem 😢
don't forget the survivors that bag you like they want to be chased then cry when you kill them
I'm touching dbd only when new killer get released or some juice bps farm event is on, playing around 1 month and dropping it again, that's all
Same here, I dunno how people play it 24/7 and sweat their balls off lmao
@@syaknikwaMajority of those type of people are unemployed or work 20 hours a week. They have no life goals and just play DBD as if they are some paid comp players.
I think what finally made me leave. This game permanently was when I came back after 3 months of being away from the game and decided to get the newest killer at the time that was Chucky and then a swf Completely destroyed me, made it out of the gate. And I knew they were going to tea. Bag me at the gate. So I decided not to go to the gate and ignore them until they finally left, They then sent me a message later on And kept asking me over and over again why I didn't come to the gate.I told them that I didn't want to be there for them to just mock me before leaving and they had the Nerve to say you Lost, so just take your tea bag and leave.
13:35 Thank You.. I was watching a video 2 weeks ago. And the killer was tunneling and he was constantly saying sorry. It was unbearable to watch. Bro was playing like he got a feng min with an infrared light point between his eyes.
I think Otz saying sorry is more due to the fact he doesnt want to tunnel/camp people out, because he knows its not fun for the person on the other side, but he also is aware that sometimes he has to do it to win or even get a tie in a game, I feel the same way and I guarantee you if someone came off hook with BT and bodyblocked Otz from someone else he absolutely would not apologise in that situation.
I also think adding a mechanic that regresses or blocks gens whenever you hook a UNIQUE survivor would go a long way to make people not need to tunnel so much to get wins, basically like Grim Embrace base kit or something
13:11 i agree with this so much, i used to watch otz when i first joined the game , and now i cant because he i saw him apologize for tunneling , which is part of a killer's job in a sense, he caters way too much for me
you know the issue. the same fucking game mode for YEARS. doing generators one killer 4 survivors. just the same formula, SWITCH IT THE FYCK UP
I have a suggestion for the variety and toxic swf problem. If playing swf survivors all cant have the same perks. One perk per suvivor so only one person can run unbreakable and the other have to pick other perks, no survivor has the same perks.This forces new or less used perks to be used and brings variety and prevents toxic behavior in terms of relying on OP perks.
"When you play killer you will never win." That’s so true (coming from a survivor main)
A ranked/comp game mode would be so good for this game
Does it still not have a ranked mode? I just got dbd mobile last week and it has the mode. It's the only version I can play because it's free and my laptop would catch fire if I open anything steam related.
@@johnroebantaculo7912 yeah there's still no ranked mode, dbd mobile and dbd are from different developers
Problem with a ranked mode is now the player base us split and you absolutely know 100% there are SWFs out there that will abuse casual and smurf the hell out of killers in casual.
Most games have a casual mode and have zero issues with the split. The playerbase isn’t so minuscule that a split would destroy the entire game😭 Also, comp players won’t exclusively just play the ranked mode, they’ll still play both. And lastly, the last thing isn’t an issue to mention being associated with having a ranked playlist because.. THAT’S ALREADY HAPPENING😭😭😭😭 atleast give those goblins an option for a ranked playlist! Because now EVERYBODY is ALWAYS forced to play with them. This is already going on, and a ranked mode would take a bulk of those players out of the pool because a lot of those players really just want competitive matches.
@@QuietKills Fair and true points, probably not as much an issue I originally thought. There were cases during the My Little Oni silly mode where survivors would hide like rats or a killer slugging for 4ks in a silly game mode. That's the kind of community people that scare my casual ass.
The big issue that doesn't get addressed enough is the sheer number of cheaters using hacked games in DBD that BHVR still hasn't done anything about. That is what will ultimately kill the game off. It's already happening where most normal players have left the game and it's filled with a lot of cheating players.
They’re not wrong i dont play killer that much no more cause of the toxic survivors i dont feel like getting t bagged at the exit gates ima admit one thing u was right theres hatred on this game everytime i lose a killer match i hop on survivor and t bag the killer😭
I agree that the COMMUNITY is the worst part of the game. As someone who has played about 70-80% of my playtime on killer I can tell you we feel the brunt of it. HOWEVER, I hate the obnoxious second chance perks etc but the devs are ultimately where the buck stops with them. Survivors can’t abuse buckle up and for the ppl if it wasn’t in the game. Survivors can’t get gens done in 20-30 seconds with a toolbox exploit like we had for weeks UNLESS the devs put ut in the game. So even tho I think ur a piece of garbage for using the stuff they have, ultimately the devs put it in the game and they deserve to be held responsible for there dog shit decisions.
I can’t really say I’ve had a negative experience playing killer and I play on pc, but I know the toxicity is there. I think what bothers me is when I first started playing killer I was already going against people who had their perks maxed while I either can’t use any or they’re not really conducive to the killer I’m using. At the same time it pushed me to be better but still a weird system.
"The full shaft, every last centimeter" Nah that's wild
cooking, my biggest problem is the grind the blood moon event taught me we need a increase and made me quit after because it felt so bad after it ended
Shit sounds like meth 😭
One of the biggest issues is the "competitive" players. They brag that they have 10k hours as if thats impressive for such an old game. Those are casual fgc player numbers. And they call everything a "tech" thats not a tech. Walking backwards or standing still on a boat are not "techs"
Yeah lmao these people wanna act so much hardcore in a party horror game
And the "tech" doesnt exist its just holding one key the whole game
Congrats on 45k subs bro
Those first two reviews are so on point
The fact that they don't actually explain mechanics for certain killers anywhere in the UI is absolutely pathetic. I was playing plague, who I had played a decent amount, and was wondering wtf was happening because I kept losing my power against a team that kept using head on. I thought it was bugged or something, until I finally realized I was losing it by getting stunned. As far as I can tell, there is NOWHERE that is explained. You just have to KNOW. This is a problem with a TON of killers, there is just nowhere in game that important mechanics are explained or described. There is genuinely no excuse for that.
When I first got messages from ppl crying about tunneling, I thought they were talking about my ability to teleport through biopods. But yeah it turns out they just believe im not allowed to kill survivors one at a time.
I also learned quickly as a survivor that if I'm first to go on hook, then the killer is going to target me more. It's simple common game sense.
I just uninstalled today. Im not going to entertain the survivor or killer aspect of the argument because its pointless. I will say this, I came across a p100 spririt for 4 games in a row that camped at 4 gens and slugged everyone. Didnt even hook, just let us bleed out and even came across a hillbilly that was hacking. Even when i play killer, the game is just not fun. I know people are just going to say skill issue instead of holding the devs accountable for this god-forsaken community. Either way, im good lol yall have fun with this im finna touch grass. Great vid btw!
To be fair their doing that in protest of the decisive strike buff if we can’t pick you up bleed out kid you got stupid fast heal and recovery on ground now and 3 second chances I have to bleed through so once I get you I’m gonna leave you to bleed you survivors won’t be kind or show me any mercy I won’t either.
@@spookieboogi6161This is the problem right here. Dude, it's a video game. Stop talking to the other side like they're your ops or something. Go outside and touch grass talking like this. Weirdo
@@sebastianwilliams4553 lol it’s called an opinion chief you voiced yours I voiced mine wanna know why I have this mentality because I played skull merchant once got a 4k then a kid got mad doxxed my wife and sent a death threat to her she’s a teacher completely uninvolved my wife and my first child my unborn son had his life threatened because of a game! How about you touch grass? Its survivors who spread this toxicity only when I’m killer will I get doxxed or receive an essay about how I’m and because they got carried by perks I don’t take this game seriously hense why I left. Like your own comment all you want chief but sorry not sorry want this mentality to stop? It begins with the majority aka survivors. If they don’t change their mentality then the rest of the community will follow.
@@sebastianwilliams4553 and the other side started the us versus them mentality streamers perpetuated it they constantly push broken perk combos constantly try their best to annoy killers for clicks and views it makes the game way to competitive and every match winds up being the same 4 survivors all with meta perks all with the intent to troll almost every game I have to act like I’m trying out for the Olympics I have to sweat because survivors want to if I win I get harassed for days if I lose I get an essay from some swf telling me how terrible I am because I didn’t feel like dealing with their 4 health states. 4 actions for 1 reward to dang many steps.
as spirit main i started to bleed all 4 players too i have to get ready for the DS buff
otherwise i have to deal with 100000000000 second chances!!
why should i ?
i can just bleed you in 4 min and game is over
if i hooke you then game gonna last longer and you tbag me to say ezz :D so ezzz my ass
get bleed out kid
11:54 good point, but I actually learned how to loop ghosts in phasmophobia, and boo men from being able to loop the killer in dbd, very niche and specific skill translation, but its pretty cool how the skills did translate
My health is dogshit atm. But no matter what I can't stop laughing. Thanks man
Hope you feel better👍
1:28 The community is toxic but in my opinion the game is mainly at fault, there is a famous saying that says : " Blame the game, not the gamer "
Yes a side can bring a map offering, tunnel, genrush, abuse it along perks, glitches and even holding the other side hostage but they can only do so because the game, BHVR allows them to. They could easily fix / rework map offerings, game mechanics, op perks, make sure there is no exploit and less hackers but they rather make Feng Ming skins
I'd like to have alternate game modes besides the basic experience; that 2v8 killer mode they proposed sounded AWESOME and the Hide & Seek mode with always-active-Mori (guessing if you get Two Downs on a Surv, you can Mori) sounded cool too.
A nice way to encourage new playstyles would be to add new mechanics too. Maybe survivors can board up windows or use time to repair broken doors, maybe add a *fake* exit door to troll survivors, or even doing something besides hooks and Mori for getting kills -- down someone more than 4 times? Dead. Adding an insta-kill pit in ONE spot on the map that killers can throw a single survivor down before it locks, maybe give the option for a killer to tie someone up if they grab them in a locker instead of having to hook them -- I dunno I'm just a dude trying to contribute to changes for the better. Just my opinions.
Great insights QK! Congrats on 45k. My 2 cents: I play on ps5, still enjoy the game although there's subtle hackers every other game, but since there's no endgame chat on console and my messages are only open to friends I'm not bothered that much 😂
Yeah honestly watching your content has been super refreshing compared to all the other creators pretending to be so nice and not care about the outcome of the game. it just becomes boring to watch there’s no stakes if they win or lose or if they even pretend to care. And also they are the same people who get annoyed about tunneling, camping or other made up rules why you shouldn’t do this or that or you’re a dick. Just play how you want, learn how to counter the things you don’t like
@4:42 Dude I ain't even gonna lie, adding dumb shit like this to the game would actually do wonders as a form of pressure release, cause I doubt even the saltiest survivor would be able to keep a straight face with Nemesis chasing them while hitting the griddy, I'd go down from wheeze laughing too hard.
Like imagine you’re getting facecamped by trapper and he just starts bussing it down one cheek at a time 😂😂
I stopped buying any new killer after they butchered Sadako when she was finally good. All it took was bad survivors never touching tapes, and her kill rate skyrocketed...then nerfed. So, after that, and the sanitization of skill expression and boring new additions to the game, I stopped playing. Haven't touched the game since February. (Only logged on to put in BP codes)
Bad survivors will keep this game at toddler level, and it makes me miss the old days when it was pure chaos. I don't care about toxicity, as I came from harder stuff, like Counter Strike 1.6, so all I care about is a good game, and BHVR is dropping the ball.
Idc what some streamer is doing, if someone i hooked ends up in front of me before i see anyone else theyre going back on that hook with the quickness.
This game hasn’t changed much in terms of how it’s played. It’s been the same (arguably) since launch. Looping is so BORING no matter if you’re playing killer or survivor. Running around a safe pallet/window for the entirety of the game isn’t fun. I wish they implemented more ways to escape and more ways to travel around the map to change the game a bit.
First review in the video summed it perfectly. Good game ruined by toxic losers.
Loaded into a game last night as a Vanity mirror Mikey w/ a farming build on, got sent to Eyrie of Crows against a 4 man that brought all the busted survivor meta bs and they taunted at Gates. Didn’t get to me tho’ I was chilling but I can see how an experience like that would ruin the game for the casual player.
Like you once said, “does Behaviour even play their own game” also people forget it’s just a game… like chill touch some grass and stop being so toxic. Not to mention all the hacking
Mah boi you earned a new sub, this is exactaly how I feel about the game and Dbd has been like a toxic relationship towards me, your very real with your content and you do your own thing, props bro!
I played the game in 2018 and 2019 as a killer for fun and would get nonstop messages from lunatics after 90% of the games I finished just spazzing out for how I played regardless what I did. Worst community ever
If this is how the game is, I'm glad I left when I did. I left this game around when Wesker was announced. Ive seen the ups and downs that this game has come acrossed. I was more of a survivor main than killer but I can tell you, most of my hate/toxic messages came from this game. I escape the match and the killer messages me AFTER the match "Toxic" "swf" "Broken survivor perks"
When I get a 4k as a killer when I'm not even trying or trying to finish a challenge "Toxic" "tunneler" "You're not even good, had to camp"
It's the ultimate lose-lose game I have ever played. The idea of the game is fun but people have made this game officially ranked mode 24/7. Can't run any meme builds unless you're in a swf. Don't get me started as a solo survivor which was 60% of my gameplay time.
I loved this game, like the ideas but what the direction the community wants to go and how devs want to push out cosmetics than actual gameplay is the main reason I had to dropped the game. Why support a company/group or whatever behavior wants to be, when the main focus is outfits than new modes, new interaction for a survivor so killers could set up more, just ideas really and could test it in PTB but nah just need to see if my bunny ears are flapping while I'm running away from the killer.
Overall I like this game but dang this community is toxic unless it's YOUR fun that's happening if that's not happening than this game sucks and toxic.
I was just talking to my sister about this. Dbd should have two modes competitive and a casual/fun mode. Very necessary for today’s climate.
Preach. I came back to the game after a 3 year break about 7 months ago. Nothing has been worse than the SBMMR change and the further bracket tightening and absolutely for the reason you gave - variety is entirely dead, every match is the same. When I found out about it, I even saw an Otz video of him on the PTB before it went live and he made an offhand remark saying that would be the outcome. Every time I post in a Reddit thread that SBMMR is the worst thing they've ever added to the game I get downvoted and get the same survivors who do not play both sides saying 'you just want to club seals' essentially. It's fucking stupid. I do not understand people who only play half the game and then dig in on the US vs THEM shit at all either. BONUS: After this next patch we will be going back in time to the 2019/2020 (when I played before quitting) meta of DS/DH/Unbreakable and probably still Adrenaline since a 5 second DS is hilariously stupid.
EDIT: The old rank system was better, if you wanted to sweat to get that Iri 1 you did, if you didn't want sweaty games you didn't have to and it reset. Now there is no decay and no matter what you're stuck where you are once you get high enough - this is especially true for killer. You can read the mechanics to see why deadbydaylight.fandom.com/wiki/Skill-Based_Matchmaking_Rating
I forgot to mention, I have a long running hypothesis that this is not even a game, it's a long running many faceted sociology experiment.
Let me just say this. If the identity of the developers was public or at least there was a way for the players of the game to have direct access to the devs you can 100% bet there would be more changes to this game and there would be changes fast because I beleive 100% that the devs have never experienced the community that they are growing and fostering but if they did and they saw what is really going on inside their game OR if they had these fans @ them constantly on twitter and shit... They would know
personally for me, i'd say it's all about a match feeling deserved for me. if a team is rocking the best perks in the game, but using them in a normal way and not abusing them, the loss feels deserved. if i can think back to something i could've done differently that could've got me the win, i feel like the loss is deserved. but when i can't think of a single thing i could've done differently because i was just getting hit by perk after perk. that's when it feels like an undeserved loss. same thing goes for the other way around. winning against a team/killer that's clearly trying to have fun doesn't feel deserved, so i usually try to chill out that game to have some fun with them.
4 months later and this is still true. My first game on this game was killer and at first it was fun. Turns out it was a bully squad and i got teabagged at the gates. I have abt 400 hours. 20 of those on killer. But, thanks to your content i can play killer and enjoy it. Thank you, Quietkills.
3 MINUTES?
Bro
Alot of the problem with people in this game is simply thin skin. I'm an old school shit talker and absolutly love making people rage in message or on coms. So, the toxic massages after a match have me soaring on cloud nine, ohhhhh love to see it.
5 months later, there are still no stats for killer powers, (Like the actual numbers for how quickly a power can be used, it's length in meters, how long hinders last, etc) or a little compendium for survivors to quickly read what each killer does, which can be on the side of the UI, or even something you can click on while the game is loading or while you are in-game.
Most people don't go online to study for a game, so why they can't just tell you what powers actually do is stupid. Not to mention there are small little secrets hidden inside killer powers that don't get mentioned at all, but they are there.
Whats funny is that dbd mobile HAS MODES, RANKED, QUICK MATCH AND BOT MODE and its fun to play on dbd mobile with all its new cosmetics, moris and as well as modes but yet dbd on console and pc we get crap just feng min cosmetics 😑
I started playing death slinger yesterday for the first time and my second game I got a swf team who brought me to Macmillan map, long story short I ended up getting the 4K, they came to my stream and started making excuses immediately “I just got back to playing after 5 months your trash” it’s like when I play killer or survivor you just can’t fun anymore, I even said ggwp to them and said they played really good. and none of that mattered to them, they just immediately went for toxicity
Killer power tutorial can be easily implemented
The game naturally breeds this. The killer HAS TOO take out ATLEAST two survivors just to be considered “good” by the game. If I get 10hooks but only two kills, I just passed the minimum bar. If I get 8hooks and they all escape, I’m bad according to the game…
With survivor if you have a bad killer, you get NOTHING for points. You have to have a good killer, yet not too good. Because if you die, you basically miss out on 5k points. Yet the killer is HIGHLY incentivized to kill a minimum of two players.
Also, inherently, the killer is supposed to be strong. So either bad survivors and an average killer, they get flooooored. But a peak killer verses a peak survivor, survivor wins. Only exception? Nurse, Blight, Chucky, and The Ghost lady. Every other killer is UNDER powered compared to those killers. Anyway, there’s my rant. I have about 300hrs (edit: 400-500hrs, I checked) on console. This is considered rookie numbers, even by otz….
Who is the ghost lady?
Oh you mean spirit
This is mostly going to be from a killer perspective. DBD the game is fine. DBD the community, I don't think I've ever seen such a *soft* group of players in my entire life. Maybe it's just endless rounds of WSG and AV in WoW, where yeah, one side is running horse shit, but so are you, but you didn't hear about the complaining, just "Welp, we got our asses whooped. Let's go again!" .
The community does nothing but complain. "This is broken." "That is broken." "That perk sucks, use this perk" *glares at Lightborn* . You're criticized for running a perk that, say there's two Hex: Idiots in the lobby, same character, same cosmetics, both with Flashlights...yeah, I'm going to bring Lightborn. "Oh, I can look up/away/etc." Valid point. But I really don't WANT to have to do that. I'd rather have some moron trying to give me a seizure only to not realize I'm doing the thing that negates their strategy. And you get grief over it. Seemingly EVERY killer is broken, well, probably with the exception of Freddy due to a strong lack of interest.
Yet, in the mean time, those playing Survivor have zero problem pissing killers off with their dumb bullshit. And I don't mean being skilled players, I mean things like bully squads, everyone running meta perks and throwing in map offerings to unbalanced realms, etc. You know exactly what I mean, you make videos about destroying those bastards nearly every day, and God bless you for it.
As I write this, it's 6:35 PM. I've been up for 13 hours, had a 45 minute drive home in a car with no AC. And I would love to hope on and just have some fun with Dead by Daylight. But part of me knows I'm just going to run into the same bullshit. Survivors doing cheap bullshit and having the audacity to either plead for mercy after I somehow get them on a death hook down or wondering why in the hell I disconnected after five minutes of non stop bullshit at Ormond.
I feel like solutions *could* be implemented to solve some of these, to a degree. First, split the survivors into two groups: SWF and Solo. And from there Survivors select which queue they want to join; they could join both if they want due to some obvious possibly mismatches that could stall a lobby. Killers get the same option - Do they want to face SWFs, Mixed or just Solo teams. SWFs and Mixed provides bonus BP for everyone involved.
it's not a perfect solution, it doesn't solve meta perks or OP combinations on both sides of the fence, but it's a start.
Also, being able to minimize or disable the post-game chat box would be appreciated -_- . But those are my ideas.
if they add rank they need to have a banning phase. people who cry about it are bad and just use broken perks thinking they "good"
Yeah I will be taking a longer break from this game. The amount of subtle cheaters, the unfair and unbalanced maps, the frustrating reality of playing an m1 killer, the constant pressure and stress while playing killer, the toxic community and the weird decision making by the devs made me take a break. I really recommend Helldivers 2 and Content Warning....so much more fun.
Good video QK and dbd is just not in a fun spot for me right now.
growing at a fast rate, love to see it bro!!
I cant wait for killer clowns from outter space to come out, also gonna try texas chainsaw i heard its hard but worth it if u win yk
Also so glad I don't have access end game chat 😭😭 just assess what fuck ass perks they had and move on, tiredddddd💀
*Yeah I'll be fr, this is why I play DBD mobile because for some reason there is a quick play and ranked play but somehow they still haven't added that to the main game. It legit takes the stress off because I can play chill without worrying about my rank going down while still getting the exact same rewards I would in ranked incidence shards ext.*
bad thing is quick play becomes a sweat camp when season ending is close. Cuz all sweaty mfs alr climb to top sooner and will only play quick play to not risk ranks. Happens a lot rn, for this season i was not that active but i saw full p100 team on quick play twice, never saw a single survivor higher than p50 in ranked.
Also bots mode is really good for blood points, i saw people that play real dbd complain about grind after bloodmoon event ended, making them realize how hard grinding is one more time.
I’ve had a survivor DC on me because I was able to down him within seconds. He waited the whole match just to shit talk me. The OTHER survivors were mad becuz I didn’t start playing nice to compensate for the DC. The community is ass. Devs can’t run a game nor have the balls to change real things. But I spent money so now I’m invested.
The best example of devs not playing their game is when they only removed ''instablind'' when the game director got bullied on a stream back in the day xD
It is frustrating how toxic people can be in this game; I try to focus on not stressing out about the game or the gameplay/community and try to just have fun and enjoy the game as much I can whether I win or lose and that’s helped a lot. But I do admittedly get a LOT of anxiety if I happen to play “mean” because I was having a rough game because I’m always afraid of how survivors will react. I dunno I just feel like treating it as what it is and trying to not stress or get upset about it seems to help way more than taking everything under my skin if that makes sense. Maybe I’m supporting a bad game but I absolutely love Dead by Daylight and probably will for a long time to come and I try not to let things ruin it even if it seems overwhelming.
To be honest I love all of the toxicity I feed off the energy as a killer, and yes they need a competitive ranked mode so all of the competitive players can leave the pub players alone.
3:34 Yoo the full shaft is crazy😂
This is what happens when they do not add comp mode to dbd. Pubs is just filled with idiots Lol. Ofc you all are not going to enjoy the game like we comp players do.
I just uninstalling a few days ago because of these issues. I was a killer main that had all killers, and all were p1. I was a good nice killer till about 2022, then that's when I started tunneling and camping and even worse, getting mad. I hope u take those bully squads down. 👍
I remember when I first started playing this game (As Killer) and my friends were watching me play.
I'd smack a survivor on hook while saying something playful (not out of malice, but because I was just having fun dicking around), and then my friends would say "nooooo don't do that, that's BM."
I was SO confused. I was like "...I'm the killer? I feel like it's not out-of-character to attack someone if I'm the killer."
Anyway, now I don't hit survivors on hook (unless they're being toxic).
BUT YEAH, relating that all to the point in the video about how content creators have given various interactions meaning--It's quite silly.
I have around 200 hours now, somewhat evenly distributed between killer and survivor. I still don't know how to counter like 70% of the killers, I can only counter the few killers I own😭
Playing in the BoneChill Event,
Except for players who didn't get the memo, most of my games as The Killer during BoneChill is just throwing Skullballs at each other, until the engines get repaired.
Except for the Flashdicks and Kareer Killers stuck in their Bittersweet Modes, most players just enjoy goofing around. 🙂
There's more ways to play, than just Gen-Flash-Slug-Hook-Repeat.
As a killer main that was there for the console releases I can say that pallet vortexes and original Decisive with original Dead Hard was absolute suffering. They even nerfed the only counter for DS at the time which was dribbling before they even considered removing DS. The Devs were always at a disconnect from the community but at least there weren't any hackers on console
it does not matter if it's DBD or not does not matter where you go you will find people that don't like how you play in every game and when I get called a camper I just say what you gonna do about it
i love how the devs STILL havent fixed pyramid head they nerfed him once slaughtered his cake then never fixed the shitty feeling of his m2 or the fact his trails are more deadly then his range
I lost for three games in a row flashlights clicking teabagging I became the villain. I became a monster.
I got DBD on ps4 and everytime I lose or win. People would start sending me messages telling me how I was trash. I basically started playing the game again since chucky. And it’s still the same. I bought Dbd on Nintendo switch just because they aren’t able to send messages to you on that platform.
Dbd is no bueno anymore
Bro i haven't played this game since nemesis was released, and bro i was shocked to find out that they removed killer hook grabs and now you can't cancel hook saves🤔
yeah DBD Skill won't translate to any other games. but i still think my time spent on DARK SOULS 3 PvP could translate to any fighting games, but i just simply choose not to get into fighting games since DARK SOULS 3 PvP weren't super toxic. usually the toxic players gets flattened by actual good players and they quit the game.
i tried playing DBD and it's not for me. i've met lot of sweat lord killers and survivors with meta setup that my barebone base game perks and characters won't be able to keep up. and yeah ofc they shit talked on the end game chat just classic same type of behavior on DOTA 2. imma just sticking to souls series and some single players genres.
Omg you have no idea how into DS3 PvP I was😭😭😭 It was SOOOOOO GOOD!!!! Elden Ring PvP didn’t quite do it for me.. but DS3 was my SHHHHHH*****!!!!
@@QuietKills ELDEN RING PvP has lot of fundamental issues I just so tired of points out to people who thinks i am bashing the game.
I remember when video games were fun. And the most competitive thing you did was talk s-hit to your buddy next to you on the couch while you play golden eye. Noone got mad. Somehow, having fun has changed to "winning" the match. Really sad.
This is what I think, you have people like me who just wanna play and have fun, and then you have the bad people who ruin the fun with their toxicity. The community is making this game bad
I've been in dbd since 2020 and I think that the biggest problem are the developers:
1- 75% of the time they don't know what they are doing
2- They don't play their own game
3- 75% of the time they dont listen to feedback
4- They take a LOT of time to fix and improve the killers, maps, perks, addons, etc
I stand on the point that they are the worst thing of this game.
Reminds me of For Honor, a lot of balance issues, community toxicity, fair/unfair "rules" made by players, cheaters, etc... but the game itself is so unique
I used to like for honor but it doesn't matter who you main, somebody will have some bullshit excuse for why you're bad
All games have toxicity. But unlike most games there is no real way to be positive.. you can gg late game when most leave. But thats it.
So, probably most encounters are positive, but you seem neutral at best...
My take is you see only negative stuff so it seems like all of it is toxic.
As i mentioned on Instagram, I was trying Doctor out and first game I had a quitter and the survivors were just goofing off and not really playing. The second Doctor game the server crashed on me in the middle of the game and I didn’t get any BP. Felt like I wasted my time
I cant wait until we get to the point where they show up outside your house just to say your bad because you tunneled them out of a game
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Love the discussion videos, they have interesting topics and your hilarious sense of humor and commentary is the icing on the cake. Happy 45k 🎉
THANK YOU!!! :)))
there's lots of great asymmetrical horror games out there and they all have one thing in common: all their populations die... because everyone else is playing DbD. Why? I have no idea