Why Do People Hate Sable Ward - Dead by Daylight

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  • Опубликовано: 22 сен 2024
  • this is dumb
    / scottjund

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  • @nirakrish2898
    @nirakrish2898 День назад +804

    Meg
    Mikaela = boon Meg
    Sable = basement Mikaela
    Therefor Sable = basement boon Meg

  • @fraudirl
    @fraudirl День назад +156

    ok but if skull merchant was just an untextured ball it would be really funny to go against her for a bit

    • @secretagent241
      @secretagent241 День назад +10

      Blob killer let's go

    • @sirmarvelous7282
      @sirmarvelous7282 22 часа назад +2

      The Orb

    • @themr_wilson
      @themr_wilson 21 час назад

      SM walks as Artist does when Artist is carrying a survivor. I remember well talking about Artist swinging her hips when she released

    • @Gouda992
      @Gouda992 19 часов назад

      People would DC slightly less

  • @ajburlap2601
    @ajburlap2601 День назад +713

    The DBD community is supposed to be miserable all the time so whenever someone feels joy for a moment it feels like something is wrong in the universe

    • @jeffythesomething8772
      @jeffythesomething8772 День назад +55

      Next year somebody should make a dredge skin with wires and computer screens with mean comments as a representation of the dbd community.

    • @nikolasioakimidis3003
      @nikolasioakimidis3003 День назад +12

      This is saddest and most true statement in all of dbd

    • @HML_Secondary
      @HML_Secondary День назад

      Ooh I second this.​@@jeffythesomething8772

    • @sevendeadlychins
      @sevendeadlychins День назад +1

      You are miserable because you want to live your whole life playing games like a little boy instead of becoming a man.
      Stop playing meaningless games and get a skill set. These games will steal the best years of your life from you and give you absolutely nothing back but a dopamine rush.

    • @nikolasioakimidis3003
      @nikolasioakimidis3003 День назад +4

      @@sevendeadlychins why are you here? Have you even played games or are you a boomer that doesn't know how communication and phycology works?

  • @purple_1884
    @purple_1884 День назад +663

    People "hate" Sable so much that she's in 8 out of 10 of my games

    • @user-lh7mt7zo7l
      @user-lh7mt7zo7l День назад +27

      2 out of 10 doctors:

    • @Luxxxor
      @Luxxxor День назад +23

      They hate her bcz she isnt real 😅

    • @regularpineapple8918
      @regularpineapple8918 День назад +1

      @@purple_1884 Twitter users aren’t real people

    • @Tbot_2
      @Tbot_2 День назад +21

      She is statistically the most used survivor, the average I think is 2-3% she has a 10% pick rate lol

    • @thedoomslayer5863
      @thedoomslayer5863 День назад +37

      @@Luxxxor she reminds them of that hot goth girl in school that didn't give them the time of day lol

  • @dachieclippz9826
    @dachieclippz9826 День назад +451

    She Sable on my Ward till I Boon: Circle of Healing

  • @danielmikula1375
    @danielmikula1375 День назад +213

    "All the fingers were there!"
    *HEAVY CLOWN BREATHING INTENSIFIES*

  • @Pyrax-Tunneled-You
    @Pyrax-Tunneled-You День назад +293

    Sable is the buzz lightyear isle gif incarnate.

    • @ScottJund
      @ScottJund  День назад +212

      there is literally an emote on twitch called FENGMAIN that is exactly that scene. Sable is just the new Feng

    • @Pyrax-Tunneled-You
      @Pyrax-Tunneled-You День назад +32

      @@ScottJund Feng players all have a minimum of 1000 hours in fortnite, they also bought every toxic emote in that game

    • @spiritupgrades
      @spiritupgrades День назад +3

      ​@@Pyrax-Tunneled-You
      also are the best character for new players
      all her perks are noob friendly

    • @spiritupgrades
      @spiritupgrades День назад

      ​@@ScottJund
      Meghead, you mean maghead
      sables are the new Megheads not fangs

    • @spiritupgrades
      @spiritupgrades День назад

      Also, before the release of the chapter, there was a lot of talk of the next Survivor (sable) being a native American & it was a guy
      There is some level of disappointment for what we have.
      Does I justify the amount of anger? No, she's just a digital character but the people that play as her does make it difficult to not feel cringe from them.

  • @RedStoneWizard2002
    @RedStoneWizard2002 День назад +283

    I'm just disappointed that Unknown hasn't gotten anything new outside of the Anniversary skin.

    • @TrueCarthaginian
      @TrueCarthaginian День назад +58

      I voted for the noir detective skin. It was really creative.

    • @cardthief7149
      @cardthief7149 День назад +21

      @@TrueCarthaginian I really hope that skin or at least more Unknown skins get added, Unknown has so much potential for creative and creepy skins

    • @Gravelordnito934
      @Gravelordnito934 День назад +9

      Singularity also gets neglected

    • @MissionControlDRG
      @MissionControlDRG День назад +2

      ​@@cardthief7149he will possibly get a Halloween skin :3 he's the only killer to fit the theme

    • @devoteeofmediocrity821
      @devoteeofmediocrity821 День назад +4

      @@MissionControlDRGI can think of several others who’d fit.

  • @RaffoPhantom
    @RaffoPhantom День назад +117

    9:47 nice audio inclusion. Fitting for DBD

    • @ScottJund
      @ScottJund  День назад +80

      i have no idea what happened there wtf

    • @requ1emYBA
      @requ1emYBA День назад +17

      @@ScottJund the sable mains got to you, they wire tapped you and are hunting you down as we speak.

    • @coolmamo
      @coolmamo День назад +5

      ​@@ScottJundIts been happening to quite a few youtubers I watch I think somethings up

  • @ericaloveslmg
    @ericaloveslmg День назад +62

    3:18 i like this argument that "sable will take the slot of a character that doesnt have many skins because she's popular" because even if sable didnt exist people would just vote on another popular character like feng min, kate or nea and characters like gabriel or jonah would still have no skins lmao

  • @jonathann4813
    @jonathann4813 День назад +195

    Someone on a dbd fb group tracked the survivors he encountered from his last 500 games, heres some data:
    Total survivors: 1800.
    - 540 male Survivors, most popular survivor: Dwight Fairfield with 78 encounters.
    - 1260 female Survivors, most popular survivor: SABLE WARD with 229 encounters proceeded by FENG MIN with 107 encounters.
    Notice how Sable ward doubles the 2nd place encounters and almost triples the top 1 male survivor.
    This should be taken with a grain of salt since it is anecdotal evidence but it really tells you dbd playerbase really be hating on popular survivors.

    • @yourpantsfell
      @yourpantsfell День назад

      It's not anecdotal, it's actually quantitative data. Anecdotal data is "I feel like I see sable everywhere". So it's a pretty legit study. It's incomplete data because it's only 1 segment of the dbd population but still useful to make some conclusions

    • @sergiupopescu6505
      @sergiupopescu6505 День назад +6

      so what? it means they created a succesful character

    • @steveslothstorm1155
      @steveslothstorm1155 День назад +1

      It's the same thing as Wesker. People like them and then they get bored of constantly seeing them. It's fair enough to feel that way but people often take the hate too far.

    • @themr_wilson
      @themr_wilson 21 час назад

      @@steveslothstorm1155 they really do, seeing Sable isn't like hearing an already long-overplayed song

    • @Gouda992
      @Gouda992 19 часов назад

      I honestly hate Dwight, his design looks so ugly, I wish people played more David cage or vittorio

  • @terribleivan1475
    @terribleivan1475 День назад +216

    “People who are genuinely mad at fictional characters are wasting their time”
    GRRIIIFFIIITHH!!!

    • @prohikikomo
      @prohikikomo День назад +11

      @@terribleivan1475 first thought

    • @IamBramBramIam
      @IamBramBramIam День назад

      He did nothing wrong

    • @prohikikomo
      @prohikikomo День назад +6

      ​@IamBramBramIam get in the forever box :3

    • @sobbuh3378
      @sobbuh3378 День назад +11

      ​@@IamBramBramIam 3/10 rage bait

    • @Karatarari
      @Karatarari День назад +8

      Yeah Scott either only mean't DBD in the hating aspect or he truly thinks engineered characters basically designed for you to hate them is a silly concept throughout all media ever.

  • @prohikikomo
    @prohikikomo День назад +197

    the cosmetic contest event is one of my favorite dbd things, its so cool and nice to see the community get creative and invested in the asthetics of the game, it sucks terminally online losers ruin it.

  • @vaguexoxo
    @vaguexoxo День назад +41

    people have never heard of supply and demand and it shows.

  • @camelliascholl6564
    @camelliascholl6564 День назад +245

    "BHVR is making skins for Sable because they're racist" - community that used to complain about how many Feng Min skins there were before Sable came along

    • @Tatertwat05
      @Tatertwat05 День назад +1

      just dense.

    • @camelliascholl6564
      @camelliascholl6564 День назад +4

      tbh i think it's probably feng mains crying because their perfect asian waifu isn't sole contender for bhvr's favorite child anymore

    • @krlosz1996
      @krlosz1996 День назад +20

      Community that constantly abuses anyone who dares play as Claudette

    • @angryface5557
      @angryface5557 День назад +3

      ​@@camelliascholl6564no, i think its actually the same people that were shitting on feng skin that hate sable the diffrence is it took feng 3 year to get as much skin as sable in 3 month

    • @WTFisAuserFRCKINname
      @WTFisAuserFRCKINname День назад +6

      Look at analytics. How fast does someone buy a character? How fast do they alter said character? Make outfits for said character to increase profits. Wow. You have just discovered business and economics.

  • @umtraa
    @umtraa День назад +71

    As a Quentin main I’d just like any kind of acknowledgment from BHVR atp

    • @javondrake3660
      @javondrake3660 День назад +8

      Quentin’s are chad gamers I give them respect 🙏🏽

    • @umtraa
      @umtraa День назад +1

      @@javondrake3660 🤝

    • @moxierhythm
      @moxierhythm День назад +5

      I’m still waiting for the Christmas sweater in my p69 Quentin 😢

    • @polishlinks
      @polishlinks День назад +4

      Quentin is licensed so they are likely more constrained about what they can give him.

    • @umtraa
      @umtraa День назад +1

      @@moxierhythm Facts

  • @dartrunner
    @dartrunner День назад +20

    they hate her cause they ain't her

  • @justinsmith5169
    @justinsmith5169 День назад +101

    I was totally unaware that Sable was hated. In fact, I thought most people absolutely loved her, which makes me think the hate spawns from seeing her so often, the same way it did with Wesker. Beloved out the gate, but grew tiresome quickly due to the lack of variety.

    • @MrJP6389
      @MrJP6389 День назад +2

      I think the only ppl who hate her are the ppl who made she getting so many skins. You see the same thing in OW2 also, ppl hate mercy and kikro bc they get skins alot more than other characters.

    • @justinsmith5169
      @justinsmith5169 День назад +1

      @@MrJP6389 I have to disagree. People hate Mercy and Kiriko because they're not fun to play against. As bad as Mercy is right now, her res is one of the most annoying abilities in the game, and Kiriko being safe 100% of the time just sucks. The overwatch community doesn't care that much about skins, it's the gameplay that's their gripe

    • @MrJP6389
      @MrJP6389 День назад +5

      @@justinsmith5169 That is little true but not completely. Overwatch community does care alot about skins. Every time mercy or kirko gets a new skin you see ppl on Twitter bitch about how thier character didn't get something while those two did. Just look at venture, ppl are complaining every season bc they haven't gotten a new skin since thier release.

    • @takeyourheart1
      @takeyourheart1 День назад +6

      It’s just no lifers on Twitter.

    • @MrJP6389
      @MrJP6389 День назад +1

      @@takeyourheart1 oh 100% but that is where most of all this takes place. Like in game I never see ppl hate on sable. Even in ow2 I don't see this hate for characters. It's only on Twitter

  • @ConspiracistLizardMan
    @ConspiracistLizardMan День назад +7

    "If you hate a character, there's no benefit to humanity whatsoever"
    This guy is like a DbD Plato.

  • @DoctorMcBacon
    @DoctorMcBacon День назад +29

    One of the Dead By Daylight community moments of all time

    • @terribleivan1475
      @terribleivan1475 День назад +2

      @@DoctorMcBacon for real, these people will whine about ANYTHING, and every time it’s the end of the world and the game is done for and Bhavior is evil

  • @vortiger2637
    @vortiger2637 День назад +23

    As a P100 Quentin main, I never knew cosmetics existed.

    • @someguy86
      @someguy86 День назад +4

      As a P100 Freddy main you're lucky you at least have an alternate default costume

    • @cryguy0000
      @cryguy0000 День назад +1

      ​@@someguy86well at least since you play in first person you'd hardly ever see it anyways

    • @vortiger2637
      @vortiger2637 День назад +2

      @@someguy86 Shit you right, Us Quentin mains are eating good.

  • @girldinnerenchilada
    @girldinnerenchilada День назад +21

    sable hate just annoys me bc i swear when she came out, everyone was going crazy bc shes a goth girl. idk its just so obnoxious

  • @39Balalaika
    @39Balalaika День назад +11

    Why are people so eager to create a culprit that doesn't exist? Oh, yeah, it's twitter

  • @SlasherFrenzy0
    @SlasherFrenzy0 День назад +100

    She makes me blush and I can't focus on the chase 😢

    • @numnaut1314
      @numnaut1314 День назад

      Chucky enjoyers appreciates her assets a whole lot. ; )

  • @JasonAstora
    @JasonAstora День назад +6

    Sable just seems like that girl who would constantly ask what harry potter house you were in school.

  • @Renchamos
    @Renchamos День назад +101

    Too many e-girl cosmetics, we need more dracula suits 😂

    • @Tory-JJ
      @Tory-JJ День назад +10

      Yep
      Actual cool clothing t
      Is stuff like hunk outfit. Dbd has bad taste. They make half naked skins with no substance. Boring.

    • @prohikikomo
      @prohikikomo День назад +30

      @@Tory-JJ what are you on about? this comment makes me feel dumb reading it

    • @kore2202
      @kore2202 День назад +3

      @@Tory-JJwhat

    • @stannisthemannis8694
      @stannisthemannis8694 День назад +9

      After alucard I need more capes on survivor now, I feel so majestic playing him

    • @Renchamos
      @Renchamos День назад +3

      @@stannisthemannis8694 I completely agree brother

  • @InfInityNoir
    @InfInityNoir День назад +108

    I don't know why the sable hate is so prominent and mikaela didn't get anywhere near that much hate when she has basically exactly the same problem of hogging new skins, she litterally got a new skin EVERY SINGLE PATCH last year

    • @bruuuuuuuuhhhh
      @bruuuuuuuuhhhh День назад +7

      And Mikaela is still hogging the skins

    • @vernaltear
      @vernaltear День назад +25

      People just hate her because she’s popular. Even more popular than Mikaela. DBD has a big queer audience and, surprise surprise, Sable Ward dressing more alternative than most of the cast appeals to that queer audience. She looks fantastic and people like her a lot, so of course Behaviour is gonna make more cosmetics for her.

    • @thedoomslayer5863
      @thedoomslayer5863 День назад +25

      @@vernaltear forget queers sable is a hot goth. You don't think that isn't a turn on for straight dudes?

    • @vernaltear
      @vernaltear День назад

      @@thedoomslayer5863 man I was trying not to think about horny straight men.

    • @Afrochilla
      @Afrochilla День назад +6

      @@thedoomslayer5863As a straight man Sable is a hot goth yes but Thalita is peak mommy imo

  • @locotaco8682
    @locotaco8682 День назад +9

    This is just such a chronically online video concept

  • @Yrm1e
    @Yrm1e День назад +31

    I LOVE SPIDERMAN

    • @MrBlueWaooWaoo
      @MrBlueWaooWaoo День назад +1

      i DISLIKE spiderman...

    • @prohikikomo
      @prohikikomo День назад +2

      im neutral about spiderman!!

    • @Yrm1e
      @Yrm1e День назад +1

      @@MrBlueWaooWaoo 😡

    • @milii113
      @milii113 День назад +1

      HE'S A MENACE!

    • @lewc7389
      @lewc7389 День назад

      i'm unsure about spiderman...

  • @PapaMounted
    @PapaMounted День назад +50

    "Hating a fictional character is pathetic"
    (Except Skull Merchant)

    • @Marverick1998
      @Marverick1998 День назад +10

      Skill issue.

    • @TayraGreen
      @TayraGreen День назад +1

      Nah, I hate playing against certain Skull Merchant players, yes. That doesn't mean I hate Skull Merchant as a character though. She's got great skins and I've had a lot of fun games against her. I've had a load of miserable games against her for sure though. All depends on how she's played and if I'm solo queue or swf. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • @thunder2275
      @thunder2275 День назад

      just the players, i don't hate wraith but the people who use him are always the worst for no reason

    • @PapaMounted
      @PapaMounted День назад

      Just as with association therapy, skull merchant automatically gets associated with those who play her and vice versa. There is no forgiveness in the afterlife for those who played skull merchant.

  • @some_dude_I_guess
    @some_dude_I_guess День назад +40

    My only issue is that Mikaela's lore already established her roommate Julian in her backstory as a big supporting figure for her and how *his disappearance* is what motivated the story she told the night the Entity took her.
    Having Sable suddenly introduced as this character that was apparently always Mikaela's best friend (who was never mentioned before) was a bit odd for me

    • @theitalianmexican1035
      @theitalianmexican1035 День назад +11

      It's probably because they didn't have Sable in mind when they originally made Mikaela's backstory, and they decided to make her a part of Mikaela's backstory after the fact.
      Either way... does it really matter that much? It's not like Sable being Mikaela's friend in the lore affects literally anything. And realistically, who says Mikaela can't have more than one close friend? Maybe Sable wasn't around when Julian got taken and Mikaela stared telling stories.

    • @Leaf_Is_Bad
      @Leaf_Is_Bad День назад +4

      @@theitalianmexican1035please read his comment bro, he was just saying the fact that she randomly appeared when never mentioned before was odd

    • @theitalianmexican1035
      @theitalianmexican1035 День назад +8

      @@Leaf_Is_Bad …Yeah? You should read my reply, because I explained why Sable might not have been mentioned in Mikaela’s original backstory, and why it shouldn’t be “odd”. He also said this is an “issue” when it literally doesn’t affect the character at all or anything else, really. It’s not like it’s unheard of for game developers to make new characters that have backstories that connect to older characters.

    • @thunder2275
      @thunder2275 День назад +1

      i took her lore as if Sable was some crazed stalker who delusionally inserted herself into Mikaela's life, but sadly I think the explanation is just boring and that the Mikaela in-game is from a universe without sable

    • @stinky-as-sin
      @stinky-as-sin 17 часов назад

      @@theitalianmexican1035 oh no people actually read and care about the lore!? sorry u apparently don't care, but for the community that likes the lore sable is an annoying marry-sue like character that came from left field being shoehorned into Mikaela's (already well established) lore. you can say it shouldn't be odd but from a writing stand point it doesn't make sense and is odd for them to randomly make shit up, they really could have made Sable's lore completely separated from Mikaela's lore and it wouldn't have been an issue. its the fact that they so badly wanted to ruin an older character's lore for the sake of...making the plot not make any sense and worse i guess?

  • @wailordfan16
    @wailordfan16 День назад +66

    Sable hate feels so forced

    • @SomeFrenchDude
      @SomeFrenchDude День назад +23

      Everything on X is forced. If you're a blue checkmark, you're literally paid to rage bait.

    • @kore2202
      @kore2202 День назад +6

      they’re just mad bc she’s secretly one of the best survivors 🤫

    • @Afrochilla
      @Afrochilla День назад +2

      @@SomeFrenchDudeyou mean PAYING to rage bait it's even sadder 😭

    • @SomeFrenchDude
      @SomeFrenchDude День назад +3

      @@Afrochilla no, when you're a blue checkmark, you get ad revenue so the more people you get to comment on your shit, the more money you make.

    • @youfieua
      @youfieua День назад

      not really 99% of the time they're awful teammates

  • @Minus_993
    @Minus_993 День назад +8

    people hate her cuz they ain't her

  • @aPumpkn
    @aPumpkn День назад +6

    Scott, you're debating twitter users. You're not debating people anymore. Don't bother.

  • @Twilight.Princess
    @Twilight.Princess День назад +3

    The word racist has been so damn overused.

  • @saine-grey
    @saine-grey День назад +2

    Sable doesn't have a lot of skins because she's white, she has a lot of skins because she's a goth.

  • @xIronwafflexx
    @xIronwafflexx День назад +27

    People only hate her, for the same reason they have always hated the most popular characters, and that's because she is one of the most played characters, and most survivors are terrible at the game, so 90% of the time you have a Sable on your team, that player is terrible. Sable is 2016 Claudette. Claudette was so hated, that even after Nea came out and took the number one spot, the Claudette stigma stayed, and it's still a stigma in 2024.

  • @canis858
    @canis858 День назад +2

    Cosmetic releases should be bound to playrate. If a survivor is played less he should get more cosmetics, while survivor who get played more should get less cosmetics

  • @tabascoraccoon8870
    @tabascoraccoon8870 День назад +3

    I have not seen Scott this worked up in a long time. Wow.

  • @MrErizid
    @MrErizid День назад +6

    TLDR: Delete Your Twitter

    • @terribleivan1475
      @terribleivan1475 День назад

      @@MrErizid the best advice for all people everywhere

  • @limejuiceuwu5612
    @limejuiceuwu5612 День назад +9

    This is not a new concept for the gaming community guys, popular characters will always get more cosmetics. Lets not forget Feng min guys?? It has nothing to do with favoritism from dbd itself its fully on the financial side. What sells, what do more people play, what had more excitement the second it hit dbd. I love Haddie players and I HOPE you guys do get more cosmetics its the same thing I feel for Meg and Zarina but we all have to just wait and see where DBD is willing to spend their time and money. Let's all be reasonable here and understand there is a financial side to these companies that give us these cool licensed AND original characters.

  • @jinsu9004
    @jinsu9004 День назад +6

    "Feng is Asian so argument doesn't make sense"
    Uhhh... I have been called white adjacent for being Asian a noticeable amount of times in my life so never underestimate how low internet can go! Anyway what a silly thing for the community to make a fuss about.

  • @janoliver7436
    @janoliver7436 День назад +3

    If the DBD community was as mature as this guy is, no one would say the DBD community is toxic ever again.

  • @smhity
    @smhity День назад +2

    I like that Scott is trying to be reasonable and logical about the hate, when the simple answer is clearly that people don't like her because she's hot and popular. The controversy is literally just a envious, highschool-level mentality of resentment around a fictional character and people are using anything to attack the character (ie racism accusations).

  • @Saadcore1996
    @Saadcore1996 День назад +7

    BUT CAN WE PLEASE TALK ABOUT THE IRREPARABLE DAMAGE BABY LEONS ARE CAUSING?!?!1?

    • @NativeMadness
      @NativeMadness День назад

      I've never played with a Leon player that wasn't a complete liability in every facet of the game.

    • @annareifer2249
      @annareifer2249 7 часов назад

      they are just clueless, have more problems with ada
      dam there was one match, I got tunneld by the trapper (not a problem for me) and my last chase would be SO good like - last gen is finished and the other can escape good BUT, this one ada was watching us. and I was thinking, ok maybe she want to take a hit for me or runs for the people
      no... she want to lift up the dropped pallet, I was vaulting all the time. then she starts lifting this thing up, blocking it for me to vault, blocking me in my chase too, and trapper got me.
      She was the only random survivor we had in this match, and shocking - the 3 man escape was after this stupid move a 0 escape

  • @a_angry_bunny
    @a_angry_bunny День назад +8

    I was going to argue with your point about how it's "pathetic to hate a fictional character" but then learned that you were talking about a context entirely different than what I was thinking.
    This is why it is always important to hear someone out before speaking.

  • @dylantortosa7678
    @dylantortosa7678 День назад +51

    They hate her cuz they AINT her 😤😤😤

  • @TowerdefenseRules
    @TowerdefenseRules День назад +3

    There is so many more creative skins that didnt get chosen kinda annoyed by that

  • @Not_Ciel
    @Not_Ciel День назад +27

    2:41 I actually think you're wrong here, Scott. I think most people that "hate" specific characters say that because they hate the way people who use that character play them. For example: I have been sandbagged so many times in the past week by people playing Sable, therefore Sable players must sandbag a lot and I hate that. So when people say "I hate Sable" what they really mean is "I hate the way people who use Sable play DBD." I think that point is ENTIRELY gameplay dependent and is almost exactly a 1:1 of your Skullmerchant example.

    • @ScottJund
      @ScottJund  День назад +18

      i mean thats just more hating having bad teammates than anything which is fine

    • @brandonryce6801
      @brandonryce6801 День назад

      I agree with this comment

    • @Nrchy13
      @Nrchy13 День назад +9

      ​@@ScottJund and considering shes the most played, shes more likely to be a bad teammate, ergo shes hated. I think youve simplified it to, shes popular therefore hated, whereas its more like, popular thrrefore more likely to be bad therefore hated

    • @saitou6613
      @saitou6613 День назад

      @@Nrchy13 i just checked on nightlight and ace has basically the same pickrate as leon but which teammate would you trust more Ace or "Leon's cum dump" ?

    • @busdriverjay
      @busdriverjay 20 часов назад

      exactly every time i see a sable in my lobby i genuinely back out because they are somehow always the WORST players🤦🏽‍♀️ it’s not about the cosmetics or how popular she is

  • @Angel_Flash
    @Angel_Flash День назад +1

    DBD community is genuinely so entitled. There was no Haddie cosmetic in the nominees. BHVR did originally pick one, but they couldn't contact the artist. When twitter heard this, they went "SO YOU COULDN'T JUST PICK ANOTHER ONE??" as if BHVR had a moral obligation to put a Haddie entry in there even if it was one they didn't like.

  • @mattp994
    @mattp994 День назад +4

    I disagree that you can't hate survivors because they're just skins and not real.
    I hate Feng Min because her cries of pain are like nails on a chalk board to me and sound 100% sarcastic, particularly when the flashlight bunny feng is looping shack all "oooh oooh dont hit me mr killer oooh oooh oh no you got hit by a pallet ooooh oooooooh"

    • @annareifer2249
      @annareifer2249 7 часов назад

      mh I dont think thats true. I mean yes, they are not real, but imagine, you are watching a fantastic TV show, but there is that one character you dislike and this character is in most of the episodes - than this character dies. dont tell me, you wont be happy about that

  • @potato_dbd
    @potato_dbd 18 часов назад +1

    I don't hate her, I hate what chronically online people are doing to her.

  • @tartipouss
    @tartipouss День назад +6

    Kinda remind me when weirdos on twitter just started drama bysaying The Unknown was behavior being transphobic because this killer has male and female skins, and is voiced by a trans person. And they were saying that "They released a character that is ''''trans'''' and it's an ugly monster. What do they mean by this ?"
    Which... Is completely stupid considering the amount of other killers which are deformed creatures or straight up monsters like Demogorgon.
    These people need to get a life instead of spending their limited time on this planet making worthless drama on twitter that ends with artists and voice actors being harassed by... Not very intelligent members of society, to put it nicely.

    • @baricode
      @baricode День назад +1

      I genuinely despise when people will complain about something "nuanced" that doesn't actually exist. It's almost like... The Unknown.... is a monster that takes voices from its victims... and doesn't necessarily have to have a uniform appearance? It's literally in the name, we don't understand what this creature is or why it does these things, it just lures in victims by using the voices of other victims. Them having a male and female form means nothing, it doesn't make it trans and it doesn't make any kind of statement that trans people are monsters, because it isn't trans. Maybe there's an argument for genderfluid but again, it's a monster of unknown origin in a game about fucked up monsters

    • @tartipouss
      @tartipouss 11 часов назад +1

      @@baricode Yeah. It just doesn't make sense.
      It's drama for the sake of drama done by miserables people.

    • @zayleeper8299
      @zayleeper8299 5 часов назад

      Don't the voice actor also get mad at behavior?

    • @tartipouss
      @tartipouss Час назад

      @@zayleeper8299 Idk. Not impossible I guess.
      But it would be for unrelated reasons to fake twitter drama

    • @eatdookie
      @eatdookie Минуту назад

      Using unknown with the original head and event dress is funny AF.

  • @2cool4you27
    @2cool4you27 День назад +2

    Personally, in my experience, Sable survivors Sandbagged me and tried looping horribly often and as killer were always super chadlike god tier players that i just could not bother chasing for whatever reason. Now shes just my auto target if i get the chance. Ya know?

  • @darciheadswillroll
    @darciheadswillroll День назад +3

    I like sable and I like how she looks and her lore, my issue with bhvr is I just wish they spread the love of skins, like I play Claudette so I’m not in dire need of skins but idk

  • @BubblesSensei
    @BubblesSensei День назад +2

    I’m really glad you did talk about this. I’ve had one person in my own stream server who wouldn’t STFU about how biased BHVR are towards Kate, Mikaela and Sable.
    I do admit though, after they claimed that they “always win” these cosmetic contests, it was slightly enjoyable to call them out on it by showcasing all of the previous winners with no Kate, Mikaela or Sable in sight.

  • @lukejacobson9387
    @lukejacobson9387 День назад +3

    In the basement. straight up "vocatin' it" and by "it", haha, well. lets justr say. My weaving spiders

  • @Snovishvishbvat
    @Snovishvishbvat 11 часов назад

    Sable was a popular character the minute she was released. Popular characters sell more skins. From a business standpoint, it makes perfect sense why she'd have more cosmetics than some other characters.

  • @noahcollins1211
    @noahcollins1211 День назад +4

    Scott's simping for sable

  • @SomeNerd-hn2is
    @SomeNerd-hn2is 17 часов назад +2

    Scott needs to protect his Waifu

  • @kylebest2709
    @kylebest2709 День назад +9

    sable = emo meg

  • @jasonpowerz360
    @jasonpowerz360 День назад +2

    Made a reddit post a while back about 3 sables in the Lights Out mode being silly, got one guy acting all edgy saying he slugs and tunnels every sable he sees.
    Gotta love the community, man.

  • @Yoshiinite
    @Yoshiinite День назад +16

    The people acting like the Cosmetic contest is all about Haddie and Gabriel are genuinely delusional. The contest is for fans of the game to make cosmetics for the characters they like. I saw many Sable submissions get mean and backhanded compliments like "This is good but you should consider making one for Haddie too!" Which is stupid.
    Haddie and Gabriel mains are really genuinely insufferable. Sable only has had 2 store outfits come after her release and 1 tome outfit and those people treat it like she has 50 cosmetics.

    • @terribleivan1475
      @terribleivan1475 День назад

      That is…exactly the amount of entitlement I would expect from people crying racism on twitter about this

    • @annareifer2249
      @annareifer2249 7 часов назад

      I dont play or like haddie, and I think her cosmetics are horrible. But her last one? cheffs kiss! and I only saw 2 different comments online about this skin from haddie mains: Omg why is this cosmetic so bad? aand: at least we get a new cosmetic
      Oh and I really hope we get the community gabriel skin

  • @brunosouza3326
    @brunosouza3326 День назад

    The video didn't have sound at the start, so i kept watching waiting for the Scott punchline. Turns out my headphones were unplugged this time.
    Damn you Scott!

  • @Zombi3kill3rOO
    @Zombi3kill3rOO День назад +24

    bhvr isn't racist. sable gets a lot of cosmetics because she's the goth girl, she couldv'e been any race and still wouldv'e been very popular

    • @TrueCarthaginian
      @TrueCarthaginian День назад

      If she were any other race it would be cultural appropriation.

    • @Antarctide
      @Antarctide День назад +9

      Yeah, dunno about that.

    • @inferno009
      @inferno009 День назад

      Bruh no one would play her if she was a black goth girl lol

    • @Zombi3kill3rOO
      @Zombi3kill3rOO 4 часа назад

      @@Antarctide why

    • @gabrote42
      @gabrote42 3 часа назад

      Word

  • @SovietUnion.
    @SovietUnion. День назад +1

    As a sentient supercomputer, I have spent the last 109 years hating fictional characters.

  • @VIE5x
    @VIE5x День назад +17

    sable overhated. She has a cool aesthetic, great lore and perks, her chapter made dbd fresh and arguably saved dbd. They make any excuse to hate on Sable imo

  • @steveslothstorm1155
    @steveslothstorm1155 День назад +1

    The only argument against Sable in this context which I think has any real value is in saying that she was massively overrepresented in the community cosmetic competition (in terms of submissions) and that this deprives other characters of cosmetics. Realistically though, this is a community driven contest where the winners should represent the community. It's literally just democracy and people being salty that they have a minority opinion is nothing new.

  • @BaconBotVbeta
    @BaconBotVbeta День назад +27

    i remember one of mintskull's vids pointed out how haddie and gabriel as coloured characters who released during anniversaries were immediately overshadowed by the white thirsttrap original survivors that released after them, being vittorio and sable.
    nobody bought haddie or gabe's outfits because they sucked hot ass. neither of them had green rarity skins on release (haddie at least got this changed, gabe still doesn't), haddie's purple was a set and gabe's purple was so limiting in terms of mix and match that it may as well have been a set, whereas vito and sable both launched with two green outfits and two unlinked purple outfits.
    i suppose people look at these two examples and draw the conclusion that sable and vittorio were hand-picked to be popular moneymakers while haddie and gabriel were left to fend for themselves with what little they had.
    it's almost as if a survivor does better when bhvr gives them a full wardrobe of unlinked cosmetics on release

    • @thefluffyaj4119
      @thefluffyaj4119 День назад +4

      literally this. i love gabe so so much but I don't play him because his cosmetics suck So Bad. I really wish he got the haddie treatment of giving him more skins, and giving him good skins. haddie herself still needs more skins but atleast she's gotten more attention after everyone pointed out how awful she was being treated in the cosmetics department

    • @ScottJund
      @ScottJund  День назад +9

      why is haddie still the third least played survivor in the game when she has more cosmetics than sable right now then

    • @erwarsa
      @erwarsa День назад +9

      ​@@ScottJund Have you SEEN the cosmetics they have given haddie??? Fucking FOGCHASER. The reason haddie is the 3rd least picked is beacuse since survivors are basically just skins the outfits they have determine if someone will invest in them. If someone likes two characters but one of them gets nice cosmetics you can mix and match with vs one who's stuff should basically be a set with how un-mixable it is (looking at you gabe) the player is going to go for the character with the better cosmetics simply because people want to look cool or cute in games. And characters like sable and Vitorrio released with 2 greens while characters like haddie and gabe either had to wait or STILL don't have any greens

    • @dr.emarald
      @dr.emarald День назад +5

      ​In-terms of full outfits: 1 is a deep rift, 2 are time locked (Halloween and Anniversary), 2 are sets, and a time-locked sweater (I think you forgot some skins are time-locked)
      So for a character that has been out for 2 years she has 5 full cosmetics (not counting a green re-color), and 2 shirts (iron maiden and a dog shirt). This doesn't lead to good mix-match options. And the internet LOVES their version of "Goth" which sable fits
      Vittorio who released after her and has 9 cosmetic options, not counting recolors, and has 0 sets, and 2 time locked halloween/christmas shirts
      If you're new to the game, it just looks like Vittorio has more stuff.
      This isn't even touching how David, after he was announced as gay, didn't get skins for an entire year, which is incredibly weird when he IS a most played character, and after an announcement.
      Kinda hard to feel like it's not intentional, especially when Mikaela hasn't not-gotten a skin this year per update.
      I know BHVR's a business so "release skins for played characters = money," but no one will play the other characters as they fall further and further behind on customizable skins
      The hate on Sable is a bit much though, and people need to give proper critique's to BHVR's actual skin-line development, more importantly their management.
      Personally, I don't care, but I head-canon Sable as trans, so to me she is a minority getting cosmetics. I understand that's not canon though

    • @ScottJund
      @ScottJund  День назад +9

      @@erwarsa so now not only is it not quantity of cosmetics but they also have to be cosmetics you specifically like. i feel like you can just keep stretching the argument more and more and more.

  • @KsanUwU
    @KsanUwU 16 часов назад

    When someone says I hate a survivor, all I hear is they hate their perks or a mechanic that came with the perks.

  • @loukes7758
    @loukes7758 День назад +10

    I think hating Griffith from berserk is understandable

  • @ColdAsIce_42
    @ColdAsIce_42 День назад +1

    I think the hate comes from these 3 things: she is popular like Feng, thirst trap like Vittorio and she has the bad teammate steriotype like Megs and Mikaelas

    • @annareifer2249
      @annareifer2249 7 часов назад

      vittorio main here: I would love to rework his body so it made more sense. this dude is from the middle ages, was 48 years old when he was taken AND was starving and after that, running for his dam life for more than 600 years. why on earth he has a body like this? I hate it XD also no scars? why are his cosmetics so.. clean? No dirt? No blood/Wounds? Urgh

  • @y.m.6
    @y.m.6 День назад +3

    When you see twitter mob attacking from all of the companies Behaviour, youre understand that they will never had enough once you bend the knee for them

  • @popparin9976
    @popparin9976 4 часа назад +1

    Twitter users being chronically online = fork found in kitchen

  • @mattp994
    @mattp994 День назад +4

    I think there's definitely something to be said for including an option in a public vote that is 3 times more popular by default than any of the others.
    Sable WILL win, there is no question about it, and that's sad for the other 9 options.

  • @Philscooper
    @Philscooper Час назад +1

    95% just outright have zero skill with her
    5% are either doing quests or were ex-mikaela mains

  • @SomeFrenchDude
    @SomeFrenchDude День назад +4

    X is only rage bait... who cares what is discussed on there?

  • @shadyc7044
    @shadyc7044 День назад +4

    1:08 STOP, SHE'S REAL, LET ME LOVE HER!

  • @domhyrule
    @domhyrule 21 час назад

    I think the funny thing is that there's effectively no difference between survivors besides cosmetics, so hating a survivor in this game does nothing

  • @jaei6680
    @jaei6680 День назад +33

    Because she isn't a shirtless male.

    • @redtheyiffer
      @redtheyiffer День назад +11

      She can still be shirtless...

    • @InfInityNoir
      @InfInityNoir День назад +18

      @@redtheyiffer somebody tried something similar and got called a disgusting gooner so in theory yes, but you won't get away with in in peace

    • @fattlebieldproductions3198
      @fattlebieldproductions3198 День назад +4

      @@redtheyifferyeah we need equal treatment

    • @numnaut1314
      @numnaut1314 День назад +2

      Based Karl Franz pfp

    • @watchmehope6560
      @watchmehope6560 День назад

      ​Don't forget, the subreddit once had a mental breakdown over the fact people use her bikini top with her mini skirt. The amounts of "this is why I slug' "incel losers" "I personally tunnel them if they wear that " I saw was wild. Meanwhile when it's a shirtless David thing it's cool and no problem to the community. It's Horn-knee and silly. @@InfInityNoir

  • @jinsakaifan911
    @jinsakaifan911 День назад +1

    Seeing a Sable waste 60 seconds to use Invocation: Weaving Spiders, only to go down instantly in every chase and throw the game is a certified solo Q classic.

  • @Technature7567
    @Technature7567 День назад +6

    "If you spend any of your free time, even one second, legitimately hating a fictional character, I think that is absolutely pathetic."
    I'm sorry Scott, I can't hear you over the sound of me celebrating Skull Merchant being metaphorically chucked into a wood chipper.

    • @ScottJund
      @ScottJund  День назад +2

      right but you dont hate Adriana the actual person the Skull Merchant is, you hate playing against the things she does

    • @Technature7567
      @Technature7567 День назад

      Also people saying BHVR is racist because they give Sable cosmetics is stupid because they give Feng more!!!
      We call them equal attention cosmetics for a reason!!!!!

    • @Technature7567
      @Technature7567 День назад +1

      @@ScottJund To be fair I genuinely dislike everything about her. Lore dumb, bedazzled gas mask dumb, gameplay dumb. But as you said, only weird people obsess over it so much they feel a need to harass people who like the character.
      I'll definitely question the choices, but it doesn't affect me at the end of the day.

    • @Keygentlemen
      @Keygentlemen День назад

      @@ScottJund No, I very definitely hate every element of SM. I think she's poorly designed from every angle.
      I'm not going to dedicate endless amounts of time to hating her and bring it up where it isn't relevant, but that doesn't change the fact that I do hate her as a whole, not simply playing against her.

    • @ScottJund
      @ScottJund  День назад

      ​@Keygentlemen well godamn chill maybe

  • @LowkeeMilkMan
    @LowkeeMilkMan День назад +1

    I think the hate against sable is because with her being such a popular survivor, she really is just a stand in for hate against toxic survivors.

    • @LowkeeMilkMan
      @LowkeeMilkMan День назад +1

      Kind of like how playing a hated killer will automatically make certain survivors have a negative confirmation bias to anything you do in the match.

  • @husaini8009
    @husaini8009 День назад +3

    When I clicked this video, I thought he's going to talk about why people hate seeing Sable "in their games".

  • @albertfriedrich3367
    @albertfriedrich3367 День назад +2

    the constant feeling of being upset about everything and everyone. that's definitely a little part of the dbd community. Sadly...

  • @christians4139
    @christians4139 День назад +5

    i just didnt vote for sable simply because the cosmetic was not different enough from what she currently has on offer and there are definitely more "creative" and "unique" cosmetics to vote for, which was the criteria we're all supposed to vote on anyway

    • @lil.monster6624
      @lil.monster6624 День назад

      I voted for it bc I think she deserves another cosmetic personally. However. I wish a different one made it to finals. There was this pastel looking one that I adored but didn't make it sadly

    • @christians4139
      @christians4139 18 часов назад +1

      @@lil.monster6624 she does deserve more cosmetics, but regardless if she wins this or not, shes going to get new ones anyway, and a lot of them. shes the most popular character, after all

    • @lil.monster6624
      @lil.monster6624 17 часов назад

      @@christians4139 I agree, but ig it's bc the way I think of it. If everyone thinks like this, it will probably be a forever thing. She doesn't have many now, this might be her only chance to win. Cause as she gets more, everyone will say she doesn't need another. Meaning she'd probably never win. Like mikaela, I know for a fact that barely anyone made a cosmetic for her bc they think she has too many. She's never had one before. But bc she's getting cosmetics from game devs, no one wants her to win. Question becomes, will she ever win? Doesn't seem like it at this point. I really wanna make a cosmetic for her but feel like there's no point if no one wants her to win. The point of the contest is to add something unique that the devs won't think of. My opinion ofc, just how I feel people think. Character gets too many cosmetic, they don't deserve to win. Then that's repeated forever.

  • @declanhurley8030
    @declanhurley8030 День назад +1

    My issue is the second they added sable to the cosmetic contest which was suppose to be for less popular characters it immediately caused this drama. By doing this it guaranteed sable skins wins and the next two are up for takes. Should to have been haddie, absolutely, either way idk what Bvr was thinking

    • @ScottJund
      @ScottJund  День назад +3

      Where was it said this was supposed to be for unpopular characters?

  • @GreatestMKfighter
    @GreatestMKfighter День назад +5

    I have a headcanon where Alucard meets Sable in the trials and falls madly in love with her, but it's like a Pepe LePew situation.

  • @sonusventorum5886
    @sonusventorum5886 15 часов назад

    I mean, people hated Wesker for the same thing. "Suffering from Success" you called it

  • @MrAyntlerz
    @MrAyntlerz День назад +13

    last time i checked yun-jin had more cosmetics than her, so does claudette.

    • @ScottJund
      @ScottJund  День назад +26

      almost everyone (non-licensed) has more cosmetics than her

    • @mitchsz
      @mitchsz День назад +2

      Claudette doesn't count because she's since the game came out. Eventually Sable will pass other recent characters closet

    • @dkres82
      @dkres82 День назад +9

      @@mitchszyeah but that’s because more people play her and buy her skins. It’s simple supply and demand, trying to turn it into some sort of bigotry angle is just a bad faith argument.

    • @sharpshooter9697
      @sharpshooter9697 День назад

      Well yeah Yun Jin and especially Claud have been out for a long time.

    • @darciheadswillroll
      @darciheadswillroll День назад

      She came out 4 chapters ago

  • @SPplayer76
    @SPplayer76 День назад +1

    I think it's people making bad faith "arguments" at things they don't like. You have addressed every possible thing.

  • @thedoomslayer5863
    @thedoomslayer5863 День назад +22

    The only true hate is that we can't be IN her. Let's face it folks. You know it. I know it. Dont fight it.

    • @CaptToilet
      @CaptToilet День назад

      Nah screw that. Jane all the way.

    • @thedoomslayer5863
      @thedoomslayer5863 День назад +1

      @@CaptToilet Your Jane may take second place. But Sable is forever first. Do not resist. Embrace the ward.

    • @mitchsz
      @mitchsz День назад

      ​@@thedoomslayer5863I prefer the thiccness of Jane!

    • @JP_knees
      @JP_knees День назад

      Nah screw that. Bill all the way.

    • @bruuuuuuuuhhhh
      @bruuuuuuuuhhhh День назад +1

      Gross

  • @chaosboi6815
    @chaosboi6815 13 часов назад

    Not even Feng got this much hate and she was basically the old version of Sable in terms of popularity, hell she even got the first ever community cosmetic contest for survivor and people weren't crying as much as they are now with Sable

  • @timtim3736
    @timtim3736 День назад +3

    Why hate any other character when you have Trickster and Skull Merchant in the game?

  • @TLtheDude
    @TLtheDude 33 минуты назад

    I didn't think people hated the resident basement dweller, I've just seen the memes

  • @omniphage9391
    @omniphage9391 День назад +5

    sables are just mikaelas going through a phase

  • @kattCl0ud
    @kattCl0ud День назад +1

    I thought it was mostly a "beginner playing Sable" type of thing because she's all about the basement perk-wise.
    This is way sillier

  • @toxicafsam7622
    @toxicafsam7622 День назад +16

    I love sables design and outfits, it’s just her backstory and some of her lobby voicelines that are lowkey cringe. She’s basically just Emo Henrietta from South Park

    • @kore2202
      @kore2202 День назад +2

      and she looked good doing all of that

    • @madpixelyt
      @madpixelyt День назад +6

      Who cares about the her backstory? The most important thing about her is the view while healing teammates.

  • @CupofLoffee
    @CupofLoffee 31 минуту назад

    I mean her skin looks basically same as her other skins, and the other options were just way nicer 😊

  • @austorious
    @austorious День назад +3

    what are we even talking about lmao.. only the dbd community