This episode had me dying, bros. The space station. The ballistic gel fart. Charlie saying, “As a medical doctor, the problem starts right… here” (points at impact entrance.) 😂☠️
How they're keeping poker face when Charlie comes up with some completely random sh**, I have no idea. We absolutely need Charlie in all future Dr.Garandthumb videos, his humor adds so much to these
"A lot of ATF agents have wives who have bulls." "Studies have shown that 100% of ATF agents have wives who have boyfriends and this is consistent with previous dad advice." I'm pleased to see that Garand Thumb is also venturing into becoming a news outlet, since this is actually factual and accurate reporting.
Studies also proven that the average AFT agent is that one kid back in the playground who bitch and cry when playing Tag. You're it. That kid constantly change the rules when he/she can't catch up with the other kids. He/she will lie to the custodian or any staff on the playground and get everybody in trouble.
Nope. ATF agents are just like everyone else and just doing a job. Why vilify them? Most of them are shooters just like you. I hate getting a parking ticket. Should I vilify the meter maids? No they are just doing here job. Don't like a law or regulation? Then simply work to get it changed and or go to court. - Now were you shooting a 7N6, 7N6M or 7N10 in the testing? I tend to agree that the 7N6 is not really an armor penetrating round as the core is just mild steal. It could be argued it is more eco-friendly hehe. However, the 7N6M and the 7N10 do have penetrators made of harder material. The devil is in the details as the 7N6M were being offered as the 7N6. Is the 7N6M an armor penetrator? That I don't know. I do know that the 7N10 was purposedly modified to help defeat armor.
@@edl653 i think there is some humor amidst this political commentary. I don't believe it has ever been about the targeting of individual employees. However, your argument isnt completely solid either... As you could argue that soliders and agents in nazi Germany were also just doing a job. And to a great extent that is true.. albeit, in nazi Germany one would be labeled a traitor if one didnt work for the great cause.. however a public employee in the free world provably has a choice.
GT: "A good curve is what you wanna have because it allows it to get into different parts of the body." Dr Charlie: "I'm very curved as well." I died with that line. Mike, your production values are through the roof with the banter (is it improv or scripted?) and timing of the edits. I loved your vids before, but now me love you long time!!
My hunch: the ATF deemed it armor piercing because the ammo was so cheap. The more they increase the cost of owning and shooting guns, the fewer people own and train with guns
Yes, they may do stupid appearing stuff, but the ATF is far from stupid. Their intention is to limit our access to firearms, and they are good at doing just that. “It’s armor piercing. Therefore we must take it away.” Their next statement will be “9mm will blow your lungs completely out of your body, so we must ban it.”
@Robert Sears A hint of sarcasm? huh.. yeah it's ridiculous.. Hoping the NFA is going to be abolished after SCOTUS decision next week.. that would be neat!
This episode had me dying laughing and it is clear to see that Charlie is a lot more intelligent than most ATF agents. Remember you don't need a 100 magazine clip in your machine gun and a 9 mm bullet will blow your lung out your chest.
@@1xBossupWhat’s wrong with being dependent on medicine? Like food, H2O, vitamins & minerals, medicine is something we depend on for……wait for it…… *LIFE*
"I'm very curved as well.." - Charlie 2022 "The communists actually designed this round to penetrate level 3 innocent farmer" Charlie - 2022 This dude has me dying
@@domaxltv Communists have killed way more Communists than we have, buddy. We may be civilian murder enthusiasts, but the Russians and Chinese are legitimate masters.
Charlie is such a treasure trove of knowledge and perspective! I appreciate that he uses statistics to back up his viewpoint! “100% of ATF agents wives have boyfriends.”
11:47 "The Communists actually designed this round to penetrate Level 3 Innocent Farmer" I almost fucking died laughing holy shit the delivery is perfect
@@boatwreks sits there and tosses a penetrator back and forth in his hands rather then set it down on the wood. Like even if he is acting stupid is so fucking cringe.
Charlie usually has his facts slightly off, which is fine because we are all human. But I fact checked some of this stuff, and I can verify that, "Studies have shown that 100% of ATF agents have wives who have boyfriends and this is consistent with previous dad advice." - is 100% backed by science. Good Job Charlie and congrats on becoming a doctor.
Since we are listing facts:Russian population 180million useful in combat 70million. Us population 330 million useful in combat 19. Russian ruble top currency on the planet > us dollar in full collapse. Stating the obvious is fun
I met Charlie one time, he was at a resturaunt, i couldnt decide if he was a serial killer or just really pissed his chicken nuggets took 20mins to cook. Anywho, Love to see him more in this series.
I'm reminded of the old story about Nazi "spoon tip" rounds. Literally with an asymmetric scoop-shaped section out of the bullet, they were supposed to tumble on impact; and the gun shop sages had it that they were banned by the Geneva Convention. Ignoring the fact that it's actually the Hague Convention which covers small arms and ammo regulations, I always wondered how much truth there was behind that particular myth. It seems more likely to me they'd be simply discontinued due to what I imagine would've been awful accuracy, rather than _banned_ for their efficacy (cf. shotguns, flamethrowers, and all the other perpetual myths of this or that being banned for being "too brutal even for war").
Considering all the stupid bullshit the Nazi's did, and how absolutely useless most of it was(No, the Nazis did not have superior technology), I fully believe that the round exist, that it can barely hit anything, doesn't do what it's advertised to well, barely saw production run because they invented it in 1944 and any factories and materials that weren't destroyed already had to make conventional rounds, and that's why you've never seen it again
It's not a myth in a sense "there are no such bullets", it's just a ton of modern (and old as well) ammo behave like this. Soviet 5,45х39, whatever was used during Vietnam era by US, all those bullets deform and tumble like hell inside the body due to the fact that most of their mass is behind the point of contact, so it "drifts" like a car making a reckless turn. Plus there are expanding bullets which use post-hit deformation to inflict more damage as well, although they aren't exactly known for "tumbling" first and foremost.
Geneva convention couldn't have banned "Nazi spoon tip rounds" because no Geneva convention was held during the existence of Nazi Germany.. Nazis took power in 1933, started the war in 1939 and ceased to exist in 1945 after loosing the war they started. Geneva conventions closest to that timeframe been 1929 (before Nazis took power) and 1949 (after Nazis ceased to exist).. To be clear: when i say "ceased to exist" i'm referring to NSDAP original Nazis and not all those Neonazi / far right scumbags celebrating a comeback over here as well.. Greetings from Germany.
Its called the 'poison bullet' because people with seemingly minor or healing wounds, got sick and lost limbs or died, because they didn't understand that it left fragments in the wound.
It's from crappy field medicine common in 3rd world countries. Yes the fragmentation is part of it. But the thing also creates crazy wound channels (note plural) and couple that with the fragmentation & need to debride dead tissue it's not going to be a good outcome.
....... most gunshots end up with fragments being left in the wound, because the damage from surgery to retrieve them would be worse than just leaving the fragments. I have something to tell you tho; the massive amount of heat that gets transferred to a bullet when it's fired out of the barrel, is more than enough to kill any viruses and bacteria that might have been on the projectile. So when you get hit with a bullet, it's completely sterile, assuming it wasn't a ricochet that hit some cow shit or something.
Funny thing, I've talked a bit about russian army with my girlfriends uncle, who served there in like late 80s/ early 90s. And one thing he talked about was "Shifted centre of gravity rounds". He said they were pretty rare and rounds effect was described to me as "enters eye, exists butthole". I thought it was some kind of anecdote, but watching this video provided some context to his stories. Maybe he wasn't bullshiting after all.
@@АлексейПлатонов-н5х displaced centre of gravity rounds do 100% exist they are not a legend at all, they have been used by various countries but are illegal to use, a terrorist group killed multiple people with them in Ukrainian in 2014
Знаете, чего нет в России? Бесчисленного количества бездомных, бесчисленного количества наркоманов, стрельбы на улицах, пластмассовых улыбок, лицемерия, диктата корпораций, иллюзии демократии, комплекса мессии, необразованных людей, верящих в плоскую Землю и возможность выбора пола по настроению. Но мы развиваемся и, надеюсь, никогда не станем на вас похожи.
@@BBWindowCleaningОтстаем по всем фронтам от всех и всего. Пойду из стиральной машины чип вытащу, сделаю ракету. Какого цвета единороги в твоем выдуманном мире?
the core is not hardened. 7n6 has a hardened core, but it not ap yet. 7n22 (with black head) is solid, hardened and twice i saw it coming clean trough both front and back plates (dude survived, but it was rough). I cannot tell you anything about category of plates, as this was supplied by the volunteers (who buy everything everywhere, where it can be purchased) and mine for example was of another manyfacturer, purchased by different person.
@@jameshawkins8817 a lot of ppl just don't get that ussr was aiming for a total war, so they did everything to make things work on the cheap way))) some stuff was genious, but most just aimed to be produced at the highest quantities by the least skillest people. that's why two AK-74 you disassemble (i did, i know) would have so high tolerances and even different coloration, that you can see on some parts, that they come from different plants, made on different equipment, out of sligtly different metal. but it shoots, which is better than nothing in fact in my hometown we had a factory, that produced umbrellas (as well as huge variety of other things, including one of the first soviet calculators) and they had this emergency plan of how they will in less than 7 days switch to weapon production as ak can be made even at home if you have the proper pair of hands and tools
Rifle ammo will, in general, penetrate the soft body armor worn by most LE which is not rated for rifle caliber ammunition. There is soft armor out today (obviously) which is rated for rifle calibers but most agencies don't issue that to patrol officers. I think the whole 7N6 ban was more about testing the waters. With the popularity of pistol versions of the AR and AK platforms I think they were trying to use the prohibition of armor piercing handgun ammunition like the old KTW rounds to attack the rifle caliber pistol platforms. If they could successfully ban the 7N6 based on its ability to penetrate regular level 2 or 2A armor while being shot from a "pistol", they may have felt they could then target the M855 in similar fashion. The fact that the non-gun owning public has little knowledge as to what constitutes "armor piercing" allowed the ATF to use the public safety approach to gain support for the ban which was really just a back door gun/ammo control ploy. We all know body armor is rated by caliber and velocity. If you exceed either of those ratings, the chance for the armor to be defeated increases. That's why we wear rifle rated armor for rifle caliber threats but I seriously doubt the ATF tested the round against rifle plates as that would not have given them the results they wanted. This video mimicked the results I've seen in other tests of the 7N6 round which seems to confirm the stories of the rounds lethality and wounding capability. I would like to see a similar test using the 60gr Tula/Wolf ammunition to see if the performance is close or if its the empty cavity in the nose that causes the cavitation.
The realization on Mike's face when Charlie starts talking about bulls had me burst out in laughter. Between that and the space station, this made my entire week.
Man, it broke my heart when they banned the 7n6. I just payed more for .22lr than I was paying for 7n6 before the ban. I am convinced that the intent was to dry up the supply of cheap, effective ammo.
That's always the intent, and why the government always goes after cheap weapons and ammo. Gun control is rarely little more than normal people control in practice.
Yeah, that was the entire point. They tried to ban M855 6 months later and got so much backlash they revoked that ban. We'll never see 7n6 imported legally again though, well not without some very spicy politics.
@@jonwinfield9193 that was a bit of "adding insult to injury" that all the folks writing their Congresspersons to save the M855 didn't GAF about the much nicer 7n6.
Charlie is that one guy that doesn’t say much but when he speaks you pay extra special attention to what he says. Sometimes it’s simpleton wisdom, sometimes it’s mind blowing wisdom, but it’s always wisdom.
I’ve learned more from Dr Garandthumb and Dr Charlie than I ever did from Bill Nye as a kid. Also nice to have my suspicion confirmed by data about communists and the ATF. “Level 3 innocent farmers” had me dying 🤣
Look up "Bill Nye on Gender circa 1990s" and see how far they are literally going backwards on science to be politically correct. On his newest netflix just youtube " Bill Nye On Sexuality and Gender Spectrum" ill admit science constantly changes with new breathroughs, But to question Male and Female only in the mammalian human species is retarded, My male dog never tried to get pregnant. This is what happens when the patients start running the asylum.
Funnily enough, 7N6 was never considered as an armor-piercing round. Rumor is it's utterly useless against body armor. Standard 7.62 (57-N-231) round had a lot more penetration than 7N6. This issue, however, was fixed in 7N10.
Yes. Since 1992, the standard cartridge has been 7n10. In 1994, he was replaced by 7n10m. 7n6 has not been produced for a long time, only Soviet stocks.
The BATF made an ass of themselves saying 7n6 is AP I have a plate of armor that M855 WILL penetrate...but 7N6 will NOT...why does the BATF give M855 a pass but not 7N6?...M855 is armor piercing with a hardened penetrator...why is it legal?
I’d go so far as to consider a 12 yr old playing COD more qualified as a firearms expert than literally any ATF agent. Also, bravo to top tier editing!
Legitimately my favorite video you've ever posted. So funny 🤣. I watched it three times in a row to catch the stuff I missed the first two times from laughing too hard. You two together is the best match I've seen since the Top Gear trio. Keep up the good work!
“One of the biggest threats that I believe ATFs saw on this round is they were worried that people would take it out hunting their bulls because a lot of ATF agents have bulls or their wives have bulls” “That’s…. Words” Thank you for the input Charlie 😂
Your logical input and Charlie’s unmatched wisdom, coupled with the occasional wise words from Micah, make for an absolutely astounding team of Chad’s. I’m loving the content, garand thumb! Keep it up for real 🙏
It's better than a lead core FMJ but not as much as most people think. Mrgunsngear has done gel tests with commercial 5.45x39 and it is not too shabby.
We'd love to see the 5.56 shot at ballistic gel from 24", 20", 16", and shorter as well as .223. That would make a fun, informative video for the fans! Also, you could use the same ammo for all, then repeat the whole "experiment" for different 5.56/.223 ammos, this could be an ongoing series.
I love how you used the 'Soviet March' for your background music ... a soundtrack composed by a British musician, designed for an American game, to be played by North Americans and Europeans. It's as Russian as an Alabama lightning bug, haha. Sounds friggin' amazing every time though!
"...like Canada or college." OH MY GOSH MY SIDES! I think I lost my voice a bit from laughing. This was an awesome episode, glad for all of your contributions
The brilliance in the ballistics of this round in conjunction with Russian military marksmanship doctrine is wild. They teach you to aim for the belt buckle, and then this mad lad round makes a damn near 90 degree turn upwards inside your body. So not only are you getting gut shot, but the round is more than likely going to find it's way into your vitals as well. If you're not wearing armor you're double fucked against this round.
@@Cmoth040 they aim low because they hit high up to 300 meters where the bullet flattens out so the aim for the belt buckle and hit center mass if they aimed for the face they would hit head shots which are not practical in battle
I was always told that either Remington or Winchester was the main people that went to the ATF to get the 7n6 banned because it was so cheap it was cutting into their ammo sales. I’m mean you could even buy AR uppers chambered in 5.45 because it was so cheap. 😢
@@alexisXcore93 I remember seeing smith and Wesson M&P AR chambered in 5.45 and thought that would be fun. I opted for the saiga 74 because it was like 600 cheaper at the time. Now the roles have reversed, the days of $300 AK’s are long gone.
That wouldn't surprise me. It obviously was not banned because it was an actual armor piercing round and they were worried about that. Seems like "follow the money" can be pretty good advice many times.
Charlie is really coming into his own. In the first videos he would say some quirky things and they were interesting for sure. But with a few months practice he's really playing the character well and coming out with some absolute gems. Really glad you kept him on. Our boy Charlie has really grown.
It’s actually quite remarkable how much more I believe you with those Pit Viper’s on… It’s like it adds +50 to your believability, and trustworthiness.
I like how it would absolutely cavitate a soldier's entire torso before going ballistic to take out their rear artillery. Truly a speed runner's caliber
I love the new aspect Charlie adds to the videos. His sense of idiocy and his ability to keep a straight face through it is hilarious. "As a medical professional, the problems start right there" as he points at the bullet entrance.
This episode has made my top 3 FAVORITE Garand Thumb videos!!! The smoothness and edits of you and Charlie is Hollywood level.. I laughed, I cried, I learned something new... Thank you Dr Garand Thumb, I am forever grateful of your decision to drop out of Medical school.... and of course thanks to Charlie for not getting thrown in a group home for the challenged...
I love how the entire time Charlie had a tacticool stick holstered and it was never brought up. Has that 'Giving your younger brother the broken controller so he feels included' energy.
Sadly, my viper's were sacrificed to the river last weekend. The wendigos left us in peace thanks to a cooler full of bang's and chicken tenders. Awesome content. Charlie, never change.
I love how consistently inconsistent the 5.45 is and I wonder if it was designed to perform this way because all these strange ballistics would cause HORRIFIC wounds
Yes it was designed to do that AFAIK, I have an AK shooter manual written by some old Spetznaz instructor and he wrote about the 5.45 ballistics and the horrifying wounds it caused in Afghanistan. Also, not totally relevant but apparently they would also boil their ammunition before trading it to the locals so that it wouldn't fire when the Mujahadeen eventually got it
Still not as horrifying as 5.56 which will explosively fragment in addition to yawing with significantly more energy that gets fully dispersed unlike 5.45 that stays together and exits. Idk why so many people attribute these nonsensical magical claims about Russian weapons haha. There's a reason the Russians haphazardly copied the 5.56 so quick, and made a less effective round in the process.
@@saskafrass1985 iv already invested in 25 extremely real looking fake dogs and filled them with tannerite, placed them all around my property, and put a "legalize bumpstocks" sticker on my neighbors truck. that should buy me some time...
@@skwissgaar_skwigelf_kdz3251 The best defense against ATF agents, the old "fake pitbull lined with ballbearings and filled with an unstable high explosive" trick.
@@skwissgaar_skwigelf_kdz3251 I think you should order 2 cases of oil filters and some thread adapters and have those delivered to your neighbor as well.
The shop I was working in in early '00s wound with a pallet of this because the owner's son didn't know the difference between 47 & 74 ammo. When it came in, the owner went absolutely bat crap crazy on his son. We wound up moving the pallet from our main store to the range/store and selling it for $75 per *crate*. I look back and wish I'd bought the whole pallet.
I wasn’t expecting the fart and I actually spat out what I was eating when laughing! Top episode absolutely love the comedy and space shot too! 👍👍👍⭐️⭐️⭐️
I want to watch Charlie become gradually smarter each episode until he is speaking in purely technical terms and then the following episode he goes back down.
been 3d printing my own accessories for as long as i've had the firearm acquisition license (canada) and it'd still be a challenge to 3d-print anything good. Without part kits, you have to be passionate about making your own, being willing to go through a multidimensional revision process, and be comfortable sacrificing reliability/function to do so. It's a last resort, b/c when you really want a firearm is usually when you need it to be reliable
It's the air pocket in the nose of the round that makes it YAW like a mofo. As soon as the 7n6 bullet strikes an object more dense than air that airpocket in the nose changes the center of gravity for the bullet. This is what causes the tremendous destabilization and yawning on impact.
This was a great video! I was dying when the first round flew out the top and your cut scene of the satellite exploding was priceless 🤣 Charlie was hilarious as well great addition to the video
People who know nothing about guns will see illogical bans like this and praise them because they seem like they do something without doing anything. It just encourages the ATF to have stupid laws like this and the SBR vs. Pistol law doing jack against gun crime yet being a massive hinderence to gun owners, but there's so much spite against the gun community from non-gun owners that even if they see these laws for what they are they wouldn't care.
8:23 The light being generated by the cavitation in the ballistic gel is always nice to see. Lets you know that so much energy is being imparted into it, that the damage would continue just from the flesh collapsing in on itself long after the round is gone.
@@clapper3530 actually it does. Kind of like how depth charges work, the sudden expansion of the gel creates a bubble. When it collapses, both exits seal first so the gasses are trapped inside. Then, the gel forces the the gasses into a smaller space, increasing the pressure. It gets to a point where it's essentially an explosion caused by the sudden jump in pressure causing a form of combustion. So yes. Cavitation is literally the cause of it.
Hell, what about the month or so (in 2008-2009?) when Arsenal was selling Saiga SGL-21`s (modern factory Russian AK's) for friggin $500...I feel your sickness.
@@oskar6661 yep, and $500 was a fairly "expensive" AK back then. I bought an SAR-2 and a WASR-10 for $200 a piece in '04 or '05. I should've bought a hundred of them, along with a bunch more ~$150 SKS's. I wish I knew then what I know now. 😔
"The curve helps penetrate further into the human body" - GarandThumb "This is a great distance" "This is the distance the commies used to shoot each other in the back" - Charlie These guys are fucking savage!
Have you ever addressed the effect of the "diesel explosion" that can be seen when the temporary expansion cavity collapses ans compresses the vaporized block material in the cavity void? Sometimes (on other tests) there is even a "puff" of combustion products that can be seen being expelled from the block upon the second cavity collapse. There must be quite a bit of additional damage caused by the heat and shock of the explosion.
From what I understand the temporary cavity pulls some air in, and then creates a lot of heat and pressure when it rapidly collapses which causes the little explosion. I'm not an expert here but that's what I've gathered.
Hey man, can I borrow Dr. Charlie for absolutely no reason at all
I want to see this. Gotta make this happen.
DEW IT!
End Of Watch 2
Arabella up there gonna make some executive outcums if you know what I'm saying.
Classic task force poaching.
This episode had me dying, bros. The space station. The ballistic gel fart. Charlie saying, “As a medical doctor, the problem starts right… here” (points at impact entrance.) 😂☠️
Me aswell🤣🤣
Anyone else see the first two replies for porn?
@@gamingghosto8494 yeah, just report it.
@@gamingghosto8494 yup
I woke up my dog with how hard I laughed at the ballistic gel fart. So unexpected
How they're keeping poker face when Charlie comes up with some completely random sh**, I have no idea. We absolutely need Charlie in all future Dr.Garandthumb videos, his humor adds so much to these
We definitely need more Dr. Charlie!
I don't actually enjoy it but to each their own
imagine charlie was in rainbow, idiotically hits banger lines and spawn peeks
well he's kinda cringe but it's okay
Hoot you are a god among men
"Level 3 innocent farmer"
Dear God, Charlie is simply amazing
I lost it when he said that! a true treasure he is!
That must be all the Afghans the U.S. killed.
Don’t forget his parting dad advice. “………..and for all those stuck in a communist country like Canada or college, learn how to 3D print”
We said FARMER piercing, ATF.
"A lot of ATF agents have wives who have bulls."
"Studies have shown that 100% of ATF agents have wives who have boyfriends and this is consistent with previous dad advice."
I'm pleased to see that Garand Thumb is also venturing into becoming a news outlet, since this is actually factual and accurate reporting.
Agreed. CNN could make good use of their fact checking. 👍😂👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
rumour has it, atf shoot so many dogs because if their wives got one, they'd be obsolete
Studies also proven that the average AFT agent is that one kid back in the playground who bitch and cry when playing Tag. You're it. That kid constantly change the rules when he/she can't catch up with the other kids. He/she will lie to the custodian or any staff on the playground and get everybody in trouble.
Nope. ATF agents are just like everyone else and just doing a job. Why vilify them? Most of them are shooters just like you. I hate getting a parking ticket. Should I vilify the meter maids? No they are just doing here job. Don't like a law or regulation? Then simply work to get it changed and or go to court. - Now were you shooting a 7N6, 7N6M or 7N10 in the testing? I tend to agree that the 7N6 is not really an armor penetrating round as the core is just mild steal. It could be argued it is more eco-friendly hehe. However, the 7N6M and the 7N10 do have penetrators made of harder material. The devil is in the details as the 7N6M were being offered as the 7N6. Is the 7N6M an armor penetrator? That I don't know. I do know that the 7N10 was purposedly modified to help defeat armor.
@@edl653 i think there is some humor amidst this political commentary. I don't believe it has ever been about the targeting of individual employees.
However, your argument isnt completely solid either... As you could argue that soliders and agents in nazi Germany were also just doing a job. And to a great extent that is true.. albeit, in nazi Germany one would be labeled a traitor if one didnt work for the great cause.. however a public employee in the free world provably has a choice.
Charlie is so good at playing the fool that you actually get a little nervous when he holds a gun 😂😂😂
I’d trust someone like Charlie with a gun over some of my own family
Charlie is still smarter than Poopy Pants Biden and Soy Boy Justin trudeau!!!!
I trust Charlie over Biden when it comes to holding or even talking about guns.
@@johard3688 Charlie would make a great president
@@qbumf Definitely better than Sleepy Joe.
"Level three innocent farmer"
"Is that the tip?"
"As a medical doctor, the problem begins here 👉 "
I love this guy 🤣🤣
7N6, great for penetrating innocent farmers, civilians, Chechens....
lmao literally trolling
lmfao i couldn’t stop laughing
Innocent farmour 😂
GT: "A good curve is what you wanna have because it allows it to get into different parts of the body."
Dr Charlie: "I'm very curved as well."
I died with that line. Mike, your production values are through the roof with the banter (is it improv or scripted?) and timing of the edits. I loved your vids before, but now me love you long time!!
I’m surprised he didn’t say “to the left.” 😂😂😂
My hunch: the ATF deemed it armor piercing because the ammo was so cheap. The more they increase the cost of owning and shooting guns, the fewer people own and train with guns
Exactly.
Duh. The only reason anything from Russia being banned is to squeeze us tighter.
Yes, they may do stupid appearing stuff, but the ATF is far from stupid. Their intention is to limit our access to firearms, and they are good at doing just that. “It’s armor piercing. Therefore we must take it away.” Their next statement will be “9mm will blow your lungs completely out of your body, so we must ban it.”
I think you're spot on...
We should ice everyone even tangentially related to that organization.
"I will never work for the A.T.F. and I'll do everything I can to disband them." Thanks Mike.. seriously.. gonna hold you to that one
@Robert Sears A hint of sarcasm? huh.. yeah it's ridiculous.. Hoping the NFA is going to be abolished after SCOTUS decision next week.. that would be neat!
@Robert Sears Waco, 1993.
@Robert Sears what the bootlicker
@Robert Sears good bait
@Robert Sears shooting a dog because it was annoying
This episode had me dying laughing and it is clear to see that Charlie is a lot more intelligent than most ATF agents. Remember you don't need a 100 magazine clip in your machine gun and a 9 mm bullet will blow your lung out your chest.
Your guys humor is more effective than antidepressants thank you ❤️🙏
Those things don’t work long-term, just end up causing more issues than they’re worth.
@@Sniperboy5551 You shouldn’t take any medicine long term. That’s how u become dependent.
@@1xBossupWhat’s wrong with being dependent on medicine? Like food, H2O, vitamins & minerals, medicine is something we depend on for……wait for it…… *LIFE*
"I'm very curved as well.." - Charlie 2022
"The communists actually designed this round to penetrate level 3 innocent farmer" Charlie - 2022
This dude has me dying
"100% of ATF agents have wives who have boyfriends." made me bust up.
I think the "Level 3 innocent farmer" is more the field of expertise of the M16
@@domaxltv Level 3 innocent rice farmer*
@@domaxltv Communists have killed way more Communists than we have, buddy. We may be civilian murder enthusiasts, but the Russians and Chinese are legitimate masters.
Charlie is such a treasure trove of knowledge and perspective! I appreciate that he uses statistics to back up his viewpoint! “100% of ATF agents wives have boyfriends.”
So do 100% of the agents...🤣🤣
@@SGBass as a gay guy who 100% works for the atf, you're wrong, they think we'll shoot them if they try doggystyle
11:47 "The Communists actually designed this round to penetrate Level 3 Innocent Farmer"
I almost fucking died laughing holy shit the delivery is perfect
I choked on my coffee from that. Charlie one liners are gold.
@@Jrt567 For me it was how it had the same sound/syllables as "Level 3 NIJ Armor." And then Mike's face after. Absolutely perfect meme.
Same quote could be used for yankees just replace the farmer with a midfle, eastern child
"The ATF doesn't have any weapons experts, but they do have me".
Despite all the armor I'm wearing, that killed me!
Charlie is like the 4th friend in the group that doesnt say much but easily adds the most to the group
Charlie kills me, every time.
what's funny is I feel the exact opposite.
@@SupaSwope ya I can barley watch the vids w that dudes character.
@@boatwreks sits there and tosses a penetrator back and forth in his hands rather then set it down on the wood. Like even if he is acting stupid is so fucking cringe.
Doesn't say much but, speaks often.
Charlie usually has his facts slightly off, which is fine because we are all human. But I fact checked some of this stuff, and I can verify that, "Studies have shown that 100% of ATF agents have wives who have boyfriends and this is consistent with previous dad advice." - is 100% backed by science. Good Job Charlie and congrats on becoming a doctor.
Since we are listing facts:Russian population 180million useful in combat 70million. Us population 330 million useful in combat 19. Russian ruble top currency on the planet > us dollar in full collapse. Stating the obvious is fun
@@kittybrowneye3163 Those are cool facts! Thank you Kitty Brown Eye, Very cool!
bro I dont like the atf but I am glad it does because thants to the atf I get to visit HAley when her hubby is out
The confounding factor here is a significant number of ATF agents don't have wives. The husbands' boyfriends are screwing with the data.
I met Charlie one time, he was at a resturaunt, i couldnt decide if he was a serial killer or just really pissed his chicken nuggets took 20mins to cook. Anywho, Love to see him more in this series.
I think he's more of a dino nuggie guy
I bet "Charlie don't surf"
@@domingochavez2552 Dude dino nuggies are the best
Why not both?
@@domingochavez2552 Don't diss the dino nuggies!
I'm reminded of the old story about Nazi "spoon tip" rounds. Literally with an asymmetric scoop-shaped section out of the bullet, they were supposed to tumble on impact; and the gun shop sages had it that they were banned by the Geneva Convention. Ignoring the fact that it's actually the Hague Convention which covers small arms and ammo regulations, I always wondered how much truth there was behind that particular myth. It seems more likely to me they'd be simply discontinued due to what I imagine would've been awful accuracy, rather than _banned_ for their efficacy (cf. shotguns, flamethrowers, and all the other perpetual myths of this or that being banned for being "too brutal even for war").
Considering all the stupid bullshit the Nazi's did, and how absolutely useless most of it was(No, the Nazis did not have superior technology), I fully believe that the round exist, that it can barely hit anything, doesn't do what it's advertised to well, barely saw production run because they invented it in 1944 and any factories and materials that weren't destroyed already had to make conventional rounds, and that's why you've never seen it again
The damn Geneva convention, not letting me commit both warcrimes and crimes against humanity,
Can't use chemical gas, now this.
@@Yurik-the-marksman I miss my glass 12 gauge slugs😔
It's not a myth in a sense "there are no such bullets", it's just a ton of modern (and old as well) ammo behave like this. Soviet 5,45х39, whatever was used during Vietnam era by US, all those bullets deform and tumble like hell inside the body due to the fact that most of their mass is behind the point of contact, so it "drifts" like a car making a reckless turn. Plus there are expanding bullets which use post-hit deformation to inflict more damage as well, although they aren't exactly known for "tumbling" first and foremost.
Geneva convention couldn't have banned "Nazi spoon tip rounds" because no Geneva convention was held during the existence of Nazi Germany.. Nazis took power in 1933, started the war in 1939 and ceased to exist in 1945 after loosing the war they started. Geneva conventions closest to that timeframe been 1929 (before Nazis took power) and 1949 (after Nazis ceased to exist).. To be clear: when i say "ceased to exist" i'm referring to NSDAP original Nazis and not all those Neonazi / far right scumbags celebrating a comeback over here as well.. Greetings from Germany.
Charlie asserting (accurately) that ATF agent's wives have bulls was hilarious. Truly a once in a generation mind
Kinda cringe style or comedy tbh, but I get that a childish humor is needed for the algo. Garand is awesome regardless
@@carsonhunt4642 good spelling for an NPC
@@carsonhunt4642 found the fed
@@carsonhunt4642 You're much more cringe.
@@carsonhunt4642Glowie located.
Its called the 'poison bullet' because people with seemingly minor or healing wounds, got sick and lost limbs or died, because they didn't understand that it left fragments in the wound.
what no? its just because of the gnarly wound cavity it would leave
@@kristian5632 no
It's from crappy field medicine common in 3rd world countries. Yes the fragmentation is part of it. But the thing also creates crazy wound channels (note plural) and couple that with the fragmentation & need to debride dead tissue it's not going to be a good outcome.
....... most gunshots end up with fragments being left in the wound, because the damage from surgery to retrieve them would be worse than just leaving the fragments.
I have something to tell you tho; the massive amount of heat that gets transferred to a bullet when it's fired out of the barrel, is more than enough to kill any viruses and bacteria that might have been on the projectile. So when you get hit with a bullet, it's completely sterile, assuming it wasn't a ricochet that hit some cow shit or something.
@@PotatoeJoe69 - when it goes through clothing it pulls fragments of textile into the wound.
Funny thing, I've talked a bit about russian army with my girlfriends uncle, who served there in like late 80s/ early 90s. And one thing he talked about was "Shifted centre of gravity rounds". He said they were pretty rare and rounds effect was described to me as "enters eye, exists butthole". I thought it was some kind of anecdote, but watching this video provided some context to his stories. Maybe he wasn't bullshiting after all.
Wtf lol
As long as it is not other way around its okey.
Provide video please
Yeah it is a russian legend on par with "ebic quicksilver knife which always hit by the right side",they dont really exist
@@АлексейПлатонов-н5х displaced centre of gravity rounds do 100% exist they are not a legend at all, they have been used by various countries but are illegal to use, a terrorist group killed multiple people with them in Ukrainian in 2014
Знаете, чего нет в России? Бесчисленного количества бездомных, бесчисленного количества наркоманов, стрельбы на улицах, пластмассовых улыбок, лицемерия, диктата корпораций, иллюзии демократии, комплекса мессии, необразованных людей, верящих в плоскую Землю и возможность выбора пола по настроению. Но мы развиваемся и, надеюсь, никогда не станем на вас похожи.
Сейчас murican patriots и либарашки прибегут, но уважение тебе за распространение правдивой информации
Как идет война? Много делаете для этого развития, да?
Russia definitely does have that lmao just cause America isn't the greatest doesn't mean Russia is any where near there either.
@@BBWindowCleaningОтстаем по всем фронтам от всех и всего. Пойду из стиральной машины чип вытащу, сделаю ракету. Какого цвета единороги в твоем выдуманном мире?
The professional and scientific analysis provided by Charlie is invaluable, plus he had me shooting coffee out of my nose. Your best video yet!
Gotta get that practice in, and with the price of bullets I dont blame you
@@TrueHolarctic 🤣
I was slump when he said level 3 innocent farmer
Also had them birth control glasses 😂
Me and my wife were wheezing through this whole episode. "Level 3 innocent farmer" was the funniest shit I've heard in a month. Absolute banger guys
Yeah, likewise with m855. It works best on a "Level 3 innocent Iraqis farmer".
lol yea that was a good one
@CRIMNALSNEAK 7000000 gazoblillion actually, I take pride in my work, so don't lower my numbers.
@@TheR00k Your payment from the ADL has cleared. Good work!
So Russian steel core ammo isn't armor-penetrating? Interesting! You should do a series testing every gun myth. I hear 9mm does crazy things to lungs.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 9mm freaken blows the lungs out of your chest cavity init fame? Not gonna lie but you got me good there mate!
Yes… it blows the lungs out of the body
the core is not hardened. 7n6 has a hardened core, but it not ap yet. 7n22 (with black head) is solid, hardened and twice i saw it coming clean trough both front and back plates (dude survived, but it was rough). I cannot tell you anything about category of plates, as this was supplied by the volunteers (who buy everything everywhere, where it can be purchased) and mine for example was of another manyfacturer, purchased by different person.
It's soft steel that was used because it was cheap. You can find other calibers with rounds constructed this way.
@@jameshawkins8817 a lot of ppl just don't get that ussr was aiming for a total war, so they did everything to make things work on the cheap way)))
some stuff was genious, but most just aimed to be produced at the highest quantities by the least skillest people.
that's why two AK-74 you disassemble (i did, i know) would have so high tolerances and even different coloration, that you can see on some parts, that they come from different plants, made on different equipment, out of sligtly different metal. but it shoots, which is better than nothing
in fact in my hometown we had a factory, that produced umbrellas (as well as huge variety of other things, including one of the first soviet calculators) and they had this emergency plan of how they will in less than 7 days switch to weapon production as ak can be made even at home if you have the proper pair of hands and tools
Rifle ammo will, in general, penetrate the soft body armor worn by most LE which is not rated for rifle caliber ammunition. There is soft armor out today (obviously) which is rated for rifle calibers but most agencies don't issue that to patrol officers. I think the whole 7N6 ban was more about testing the waters. With the popularity of pistol versions of the AR and AK platforms I think they were trying to use the prohibition of armor piercing handgun ammunition like the old KTW rounds to attack the rifle caliber pistol platforms. If they could successfully ban the 7N6 based on its ability to penetrate regular level 2 or 2A armor while being shot from a "pistol", they may have felt they could then target the M855 in similar fashion. The fact that the non-gun owning public has little knowledge as to what constitutes "armor piercing" allowed the ATF to use the public safety approach to gain support for the ban which was really just a back door gun/ammo control ploy. We all know body armor is rated by caliber and velocity. If you exceed either of those ratings, the chance for the armor to be defeated increases. That's why we wear rifle rated armor for rifle caliber threats but I seriously doubt the ATF tested the round against rifle plates as that would not have given them the results they wanted.
This video mimicked the results I've seen in other tests of the 7N6 round which seems to confirm the stories of the rounds lethality and wounding capability. I would like to see a similar test using the 60gr Tula/Wolf ammunition to see if the performance is close or if its the empty cavity in the nose that causes the cavitation.
The realization on Mike's face when Charlie starts talking about bulls had me burst out in laughter. Between that and the space station, this made my entire week.
I wonder how many people thought Charlie was talking about actual _bulls_
@@dylannix4289 I had to look it up actually.
I just like the fact that he called the ATF cucks
@@redactedredacted2982 Everybody did, because it’s true lmao
@@dylannix4289 to be fair... ATF agents do seem like the kind of people that get cucked by animals... explains the constant dog shooting tbh...
Man, it broke my heart when they banned the 7n6. I just payed more for .22lr than I was paying for 7n6 before the ban. I am convinced that the intent was to dry up the supply of cheap, effective ammo.
It's pretty clear now
That's always the intent, and why the government always goes after cheap weapons and ammo. Gun control is rarely little more than normal people control in practice.
Yeah, that was the entire point. They tried to ban M855 6 months later and got so much backlash they revoked that ban. We'll never see 7n6 imported legally again though, well not without some very spicy politics.
@@jonwinfield9193 that was a bit of "adding insult to injury" that all the folks writing their Congresspersons to save the M855 didn't GAF about the much nicer 7n6.
Most likely.
Charlie is that one guy that doesn’t say much but when he speaks you pay extra special attention to what he says. Sometimes it’s simpleton wisdom, sometimes it’s mind blowing wisdom, but it’s always wisdom.
nah, not really.
@TacSquirrel I listened very carfully to Doc Charley after I read your remark and I AGREE with ALL of it...except the wisdom part
Way to copy @gopanthr's comment but make it stupid
He's clearly inspired from Buster from Arrested Development, I think.
Yes...pay extra SPECIAL attention. Lots of specialness when Doc Charlie speaks.
You cannot be around ballistics gel without slapping it.
Extremely informative video as always, thank you gents. Oh and Mr. Thumb I dropped an application for you to the Aft, you are welcome.
You couldn’t even spell atf right. Amateur hour.
I’ve learned more from Dr Garandthumb and Dr Charlie than I ever did from Bill Nye as a kid. Also nice to have my suspicion confirmed by data about communists and the ATF. “Level 3 innocent farmers” had me dying 🤣
Just the perfect comment
Look up "Bill Nye on Gender circa 1990s" and see how far they are literally going backwards on science to be politically correct. On his newest netflix just youtube " Bill Nye On Sexuality and Gender Spectrum" ill admit science constantly changes with new breathroughs, But to question Male and Female only in the mammalian human species is retarded, My male dog never tried to get pregnant. This is what happens when the patients start running the asylum.
Just like the farmers!
Charlie is killin it representing nearly 95% of every person I have ever talked to about firearms.
Dont you mean 95% of participants that have won themselves a Darwin award?
@@CreatureOTNight mmm....no....
00:47 Smash Garand Thumb
02:14 It's Bussin!
03:52 Blow THEM UP!
04:45 Very Curved As Well
04:50 That Smack Tho
05:08 Houston We Have Lift Off
05:38 As a Medical Doctor
05:58 FART!
06:40 Small ones matter too
06:53 Penetration Yes?
07:15 It Came Apart.
08:01 STARLINK
08:12 Comrade?
08:27 BOOM!
08:54 Yea IDK Chief
09:03 Boom AGAIN!
10:28 Ah yes Mild Penetration
10:51 Disband the ATF.
11:10-11:25 ATF Wifes Bulls
11:47 Damn Commies
12:20 Bulls!
12:51 Cucked
This is like a Marty Robbins meme track list. XD
@@eljefeamericano4308 it really does tho😂
Funnily enough, 7N6 was never considered as an armor-piercing round. Rumor is it's utterly useless against body armor. Standard 7.62 (57-N-231) round had a lot more penetration than 7N6. This issue, however, was fixed in 7N10.
well it would be hell of a punch and broken ribs anyway
Yes. Since 1992, the standard cartridge has been 7n10. In 1994, he was replaced by 7n10m. 7n6 has not been produced for a long time, only Soviet stocks.
Your right and the BATF isnt...I BET as in I might be wrong and lose money, that 7N6 couldnt penetrate a soft pistol vest rated for .357.
@@whatsmolly5741 Yeah 7N6 is pretty dang anti-armor-piercing I hsve gobs of it..it WOULD penetrate a blade of grass and MAYBE a 2x4
The BATF made an ass of themselves saying 7n6 is AP I have a plate of armor that M855 WILL penetrate...but 7N6 will NOT...why does the BATF give M855 a pass but not 7N6?...M855 is armor piercing with a hardened penetrator...why is it legal?
"a lot of ATF wives have bulls..." My God I've not laughed soo hard watching this show in a long time. also, sorry about your dog in advance.
My favorite joke but I think a lot of people missed that its a cuck joke.
Jesus Christ 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Honestly the funniest part of the video I was dying 😂
I wasn't ready for 5:57 but I definitely welcome the edit
Dude this killed me I lost my shit lmao
im so immature 🤣
4:50 No no no, it's all about the jelly slap gentlemen.. Mike knows what he's doin'
I had to watch it 5 more times. Still laughing just as hard each time.
I like the fact that Charlie wrote PELTOR on his Walker hear muff lol
I’d go so far as to consider a 12 yr old playing COD more qualified as a firearms expert than literally any ATF agent. Also, bravo to top tier editing!
Charlie’s ability to crack me up by just saying nonsense while sounding unsure of himself is incredible
Seriously. Holy shit LOL.
And we have a grenade launcher on there, why, Charlie?
So..You can blow them up..
4:44 kills me every time
Legitimately my favorite video you've ever posted. So funny 🤣. I watched it three times in a row to catch the stuff I missed the first two times from laughing too hard. You two together is the best match I've seen since the Top Gear trio. Keep up the good work!
The old school m16 with the m203 fucks so hard. Absolutely aesthetic.
“One of the biggest threats that I believe ATFs saw on this round is they were worried that people would take it out hunting their bulls because a lot of ATF agents have bulls or their wives have bulls”
“That’s…. Words”
Thank you for the input Charlie 😂
Did he just call everyone in the ATF cucks?
If you think about it, it kinda makes sense, if by bulls he meant boyfriends.
@@shred1894 Yeah, that's exactly what he meant when he said that.
@@Soluscide He's talking about blacks.
@@dabeln1 I don't remember anyone mentioning race.
Your logical input and Charlie’s unmatched wisdom, coupled with the occasional wise words from Micah, make for an absolutely astounding team of Chad’s. I’m loving the content, garand thumb! Keep it up for real 🙏
Missed the deadline, but I have some thoughts about this projectile! Looks like a topic for another discussion!
It's better than a lead core FMJ but not as much as most people think. Mrgunsngear has done gel tests with commercial 5.45x39 and it is not too shabby.
We'd love to see the 5.56 shot at ballistic gel from 24", 20", 16", and shorter as well as .223. That would make a fun, informative video for the fans! Also, you could use the same ammo for all, then repeat the whole "experiment" for different 5.56/.223 ammos, this could be an ongoing series.
Donat patrion
Also at some long range like 250-300m so the bullets loose some velocity
Charlie’s additions are groundbreaking. Truly a man of science
I love how you used the 'Soviet March' for your background music ... a soundtrack composed by a British musician, designed for an American game, to be played by North Americans and Europeans. It's as Russian as an Alabama lightning bug, haha. Sounds friggin' amazing every time though!
Damn bro you must be a thirst trap you’ve got all the onlyfans bottom 1% girls responding to you 😂
And the lyrics of it in russian make absolutely no sense.
@@Oberkommando YES. That's the best part!!
I thought it was a Russian anthem until I was like 14
Now THAT is a funny youtube comment...
Charlie: *says anything*
Garand Thumb: *disassociates through time and space*
0:25 - Ironically USA has much more poor people than Russia. 😂
"...like Canada or college." OH MY GOSH MY SIDES! I think I lost my voice a bit from laughing. This was an awesome episode, glad for all of your contributions
I'm Canadian and i approve this video 👍
I’m Canadian and living this nightmare.
@@Jamie-ly8uj if all it took was load the truck and go I'd be in Georgia or Tennessee tommoro.
@@snakeplissken571 I agree 100%
@@Jamie-ly8uj RIP
The brilliance in the ballistics of this round in conjunction with Russian military marksmanship doctrine is wild. They teach you to aim for the belt buckle, and then this mad lad round makes a damn near 90 degree turn upwards inside your body. So not only are you getting gut shot, but the round is more than likely going to find it's way into your vitals as well. If you're not wearing armor you're double fucked against this round.
"Belt buckle". I don't know about you, but nobody wears their rifle-rated plates this low.
@@Cmoth040 exactly
@@Cmoth040 very true, I stand corrected. Even if you are wearing plates you're fucked 😂
@@jacoblewis9514 Any source for this "belt buckle" training? Would love to read more about this
@@Cmoth040 they aim low because they hit high up to 300 meters where the bullet flattens out so the aim for the belt buckle and hit center mass if they aimed for the face they would hit head shots which are not practical in battle
Charlie was firing on all cylinders in this episode and was 100% correct about the ATF and commies!
Congrats Dr Charlie
100% of ATF agents have wife's that have boyfriends and that's consistent with previous studies
Level 3 innocent farmers LOL
I love Charlie's dedication to never saying Sonoran Desert Institute properly.
I was always told that either Remington or Winchester was the main people that went to the ATF to get the 7n6 banned because it was so cheap it was cutting into their ammo sales. I’m mean you could even buy AR uppers chambered in 5.45 because it was so cheap. 😢
Fucking love me a 5.45 mutant.
@@alexisXcore93 I remember seeing smith and Wesson M&P AR chambered in 5.45 and thought that would be fun. I opted for the saiga 74 because it was like 600 cheaper at the time. Now the roles have reversed, the days of $300 AK’s are long gone.
@@streamfisher7472 my buddy’s first AR was a M&P in 5.45.
@@cdclpc Sweet, I hope 5.45 keeps being imported by some other countries because it is a really fun soft shooting caliber.
That wouldn't surprise me. It obviously was not banned because it was an actual armor piercing round and they were worried about that.
Seems like "follow the money" can be pretty good advice many times.
Charlie is really coming into his own. In the first videos he would say some quirky things and they were interesting for sure. But with a few months practice he's really playing the character well and coming out with some absolute gems. Really glad you kept him on. Our boy Charlie has really grown.
id like to come into your own and have my boy grow in you.
He has really blossomed and do be doin it
Indeed, he is becoming funnier.
Its kind of obnoxious but maybe im just old and grumpy
And you’re a bot
It’s actually quite remarkable how much more I believe you with those Pit Viper’s on… It’s like it adds +50 to your believability, and trustworthiness.
"designed to penetrate level 3 innocent farmer" fucking killed me
I like how it would absolutely cavitate a soldier's entire torso before going ballistic to take out their rear artillery. Truly a speed runner's caliber
sorry?
@@milesstover3724 you should be.
I love the new aspect Charlie adds to the videos. His sense of idiocy and his ability to keep a straight face through it is hilarious. "As a medical professional, the problems start right there" as he points at the bullet entrance.
7n6 was a direct answer to the m193 and 7n10 was a direct counterpart for m855\ss109 it was mentioned in dvoryaninov book on a soviet
ussian ammo
That Science-Based Intro is chef's kiss.
I’m always so impressed by Mike’s ability to keep a straight face when Charlie opens his mouth
Happy Father’s Day man. Love the Bronze Age patch, hope to get me a chest rig of yours soon!
I really like the "science" episodes. Happy Father's Day to all the other dad's out there.
And you as well sir.
I wanna see what 7n22 would look like, thats whats currently standard issue in russia and its an actual AP bullet
Happy Father’s Day dad!
+1
that was one of your most entertaining vids yet Charlie clearly has earned his degree. lookin forward to your more serious survival series.
This episode has made my top 3 FAVORITE Garand Thumb videos!!! The smoothness and edits of you and Charlie is Hollywood level.. I laughed, I cried, I learned something new... Thank you Dr Garand Thumb, I am forever grateful of your decision to drop out of Medical school.... and of course thanks to Charlie for not getting thrown in a group home for the challenged...
“Why do we have a grenade launcher Charlie ? Because Charlie don’t surf ? “ missed opportunity guys
I love how the entire time Charlie had a tacticool stick holstered and it was never brought up. Has that 'Giving your younger brother the broken controller so he feels included' energy.
It's the little details that give it a truly polished feel.
Sadly, my viper's were sacrificed to the river last weekend. The wendigos left us in peace thanks to a cooler full of bang's and chicken tenders. Awesome content. Charlie, never change.
I love how consistently inconsistent the 5.45 is and I wonder if it was designed to perform this way because all these strange ballistics would cause HORRIFIC wounds
The round that went fully vertical like 6 inches in is horrifying to think about.
I think one of the best things about a yawing bullet is that you can design an AP version without much effect on the lethality.
Yes it was designed to do that AFAIK, I have an AK shooter manual written by some old Spetznaz instructor and he wrote about the 5.45 ballistics and the horrifying wounds it caused in Afghanistan. Also, not totally relevant but apparently they would also boil their ammunition before trading it to the locals so that it wouldn't fire when the Mujahadeen eventually got it
Still not as horrifying as 5.56 which will explosively fragment in addition to yawing with significantly more energy that gets fully dispersed unlike 5.45 that stays together and exits. Idk why so many people attribute these nonsensical magical claims about Russian weapons haha. There's a reason the Russians haphazardly copied the 5.56 so quick, and made a less effective round in the process.
@@wooblydooblygod3857 Better to design a AP round like M855A1 which is excellent penetrator and still has horrifying fragmentation.
ive been doing my own penitration tests on numerous wives of ATF agents, and i can confirm these theories 100% ... for your health.
I think you might be needing a Kevlar dog poncho in your future.
@@saskafrass1985 iv already invested in 25 extremely real looking fake dogs and filled them with tannerite, placed them all around my property, and put a "legalize bumpstocks" sticker on my neighbors truck.
that should buy me some time...
@@skwissgaar_skwigelf_kdz3251 The best defense against ATF agents, the old "fake pitbull lined with ballbearings and filled with an unstable high explosive" trick.
@@skwissgaar_skwigelf_kdz3251 the force is strong with you.
@@skwissgaar_skwigelf_kdz3251 I think you should order 2 cases of oil filters and some thread adapters and have those delivered to your neighbor as well.
The shop I was working in in early '00s wound with a pallet of this because the owner's son didn't know the difference between 47 & 74 ammo. When it came in, the owner went absolutely bat crap crazy on his son. We wound up moving the pallet from our main store to the range/store and selling it for $75 per *crate*.
I look back and wish I'd bought the whole pallet.
I wish I had a pallet of the stuff. I have 5 and a half guns that shoot it (5.45x39 AR upper) and 20K+ rounds won't last forever.
Wait people say bat crap crazy? I thought it was a translation error in an anime. Either way you are wrong it is bat shit insane.
Mike : Do you know what the Russians don't have?...
Charlie : Not poor people
Mike : ... Money
Ruble is stronger than ever..
The rubble is worth more than the dollar these days
@@questioneverything4722 you should buy some then
@@tommywalker3746 lmao
@@tabajara3121 I did thru crypto, made $
I vote that Dr. Garand Thumb should be in charge of the ATF!
I wasn’t expecting the fart and I actually spat out what I was eating when laughing!
Top episode absolutely love the comedy and space shot too! 👍👍👍⭐️⭐️⭐️
dude i was eating and started coughing up burger
I want to watch Charlie become gradually smarter each episode until he is speaking in purely technical terms and then the following episode he goes back down.
Gets smarter then begins to speak in a British accent
been 3d printing my own accessories for as long as i've had the firearm acquisition license (canada) and it'd still be a challenge to 3d-print anything good. Without part kits, you have to be passionate about making your own, being willing to go through a multidimensional revision process, and be comfortable sacrificing reliability/function to do so. It's a last resort, b/c when you really want a firearm is usually when you need it to be reliable
Hoffman Tactical super lower + Biden's Bane upper receiver.
You can buy every other part legally.
@@earlturner6023 your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter
7N6 bullet penetrates body armor very bad so they replaced it with 7N10. Now 7N6 is used only for training, not for combat missions.
It's the air pocket in the nose of the round that makes it YAW like a mofo. As soon as the 7n6 bullet strikes an object more dense than air that airpocket in the nose changes the center of gravity for the bullet. This is what causes the tremendous destabilization and yawning on impact.
The editing was amazing, the commentary was amazing, and the special needs student you have brought on the show was amazing.
This was a great video! I was dying when the first round flew out the top and your cut scene of the satellite exploding was priceless 🤣 Charlie was hilarious as well great addition to the video
I picture Charlie being like this for the videos but in reality hes the most serious and smartest one out of all them 😂
7N6 is awesome. Shame on America for allowing the ATF to approve a ban on this fine round
ATF are the real na-ziz
I have no shame because Im not allowed to have any oversite at all over BATF
People who know nothing about guns will see illogical bans like this and praise them because they seem like they do something without doing anything. It just encourages the ATF to have stupid laws like this and the SBR vs. Pistol law doing jack against gun crime yet being a massive hinderence to gun owners, but there's so much spite against the gun community from non-gun owners that even if they see these laws for what they are they wouldn't care.
No best ammo ever...standard FMJ is a lot better.
8:23 The light being generated by the cavitation in the ballistic gel is always nice to see. Lets you know that so much energy is being imparted into it, that the damage would continue just from the flesh collapsing in on itself long after the round is gone.
it has nothing to do with cavitation
@@clapper3530 It looked like sonoluminescence for a second there.
Wouldn't it sort of cauterize the wound? Probably not enough heat for that
@@clapper3530 It absolutely does have to do with cavitation. The sonoluminescence is a dead giveaway to that.
@@clapper3530 actually it does.
Kind of like how depth charges work, the sudden expansion of the gel creates a bubble. When it collapses, both exits seal first so the gasses are trapped inside. Then, the gel forces the the gasses into a smaller space, increasing the pressure.
It gets to a point where it's essentially an explosion caused by the sudden jump in pressure causing a form of combustion.
So yes.
Cavitation is literally the cause of it.
I didn’t think I could love your channel more than what I already did, then this video came out 😂 great stuff!
Charlie is incredibly based. just please keep him away from the stuff under the kitchen counter, I don't think I could bear to lose him
Eh, pipe cleaner is mostly water, same as us
Thinking back to the amount of 9 cent per round 7n6 I bump-fired out of my 74s in the early to mid 2000s makes me sick to my stomach.
Hell, what about the month or so (in 2008-2009?) when Arsenal was selling Saiga SGL-21`s (modern factory Russian AK's) for friggin $500...I feel your sickness.
@@oskar6661 yep, and $500 was a fairly "expensive" AK back then. I bought an SAR-2 and a WASR-10 for $200 a piece in '04 or '05. I should've bought a hundred of them, along with a bunch more ~$150 SKS's. I wish I knew then what I know now. 😔
I’ve wanted a video on this cartridge for so long. Thanks for all you do and happy Father’s Day.
"The curve helps penetrate further into the human body" - GarandThumb
"This is a great distance"
"This is the distance the commies used to shoot each other in the back" - Charlie
These guys are fucking savage!
This is some grade A editing, good job!
When the 5.45x39 7n6 was developed we were using the 55 gr 5.56, not the M-855 62 gr. We started using that in 1982 along with the M-16 A2.
“A new study shows that 100% of ATF agents have wives with boyfriends”
- Charlie
This man is a genius and a doctor.
Yes and this holds true for Transgender male ATF agents
Have you ever addressed the effect of the "diesel explosion" that can be seen when the temporary expansion cavity collapses ans compresses the vaporized block material in the cavity void? Sometimes (on other tests) there is even a "puff" of combustion products that can be seen being expelled from the block upon the second cavity collapse. There must be quite a bit of additional damage caused by the heat and shock of the explosion.
I believe it's called sonoluminescence
From what I understand the temporary cavity pulls some air in, and then creates a lot of heat and pressure when it rapidly collapses which causes the little explosion. I'm not an expert here but that's what I've gathered.
It showed up in this video.
They do address it in many of their videos.
The same thing does not happen in a human torso because its not a solid block of gel. Its a cavity full of more cavities and organs
The fart noise killed me. Charley, you crazy boo.
The AFT had a mistranslation with the ruling on that round. It was never designed to penetrate lvl3 armor. It was designed to penetrate a lvl3 farmer.
Everything they do is wrong and should shut down
The mistranslation is completely understandable, what with that whole bull - wife thing spreading through the agency.
And whatnot.