You know, looking at the recoil in slow-motion it just occurred to me that fitting that thing with an ergonomic revolver grip would probably make all the difference in the world.
Interesting fact: weapons like OBREZ was used in times of 1918-1920 civil war in Russia against Reds (communists) and Whites (monarchists). In general obrez was used by farmer resistanse in ambush attacs on times of "prodrazverstka" (expropriation of farmer products for Red Army and cityes population by communists).
Its suboptimal to attack group of people armed with normal mosins with this abomination. In reality obrez mostly used to ambush unarmed people and robbing
You guys should team up with The slow mo Guys and get some nice slow mo of bullet trajectories. I know Dan served with the British military and I think he still is.
It would be great to see the trajectory of the bullet in slow motion, You should do a collab with the Ballistics High-Speed channel, they just bought a camera that captures a quarter million fps
The Obrez is one of those guns you could modify and use as a prop in a Star Wars movie and people seeing it in said movie would be thinking "that blaster pistol isn't based on anything irl."
"Obrez" in russian relates to just about any rifle with cut down barrel - usually for concealment purposes. Typically a double-barrel hunting rifle could undergo such "mod" by criminals, or another famous case - RPD LMG cut down by USA rangers in Vietnam - no precision, but compact/lighter and good for suppression fire in the jungle. Mosin was often cut down by "counter-revolution elements" to resist Soviet NKVD/ChK/militia or to be used in robberies/etc. Technically it can be done not only by sawing but by shooting a rifle with its barrel partially submerged in water.
@@bombomos uh no, the sound is different bc the powder can’t all burn before the bullet leaves the muzzle, most of the gunpowder is igniting outside of the barrel which is why it has so little recoil and much lower velocity
@@bombomos Frankly, did those the bullets even reach speed of sound? No way all the gunpowder is burnt before bullet exits the barrel, thus a lot of energy is lost and 7,62×54R cartriges have quite heavy projectiles (ussually around 11 grams), so...
The ultimate recce weapon: short so it's easy to maneuver. Short barrel for short range capabilities. High caliber so long range shots are viable. Russian cause why not. And big iron as well. Quintessential
When I was growing up in Russia my grandpa had an Obrez like that. It was so short, the bullet was actually sticking out of the “barrel” if you can even call that a barrel. They cut it too short lol. He killed squirrels with it just by aiming at them, the muzzle shock did most of the killing work lol
It looks so bad, especially that god awful extended mag and the barrel shroud. Christ, looks like that mosin was dragged through a tacticool shit catalogue
The Obrez isn't cursed, it's just way ahead of it's time... It belongs in the apocalypse. They should make a bunch of those if they ever do another Mad Max movie.
Fireball is also a feature, it is effectively flash bang, discombobulating the target(and the operator), meaning the bullet is in an un-observed state, allowing it fire the two projectiles instead of the single projectile, truly ahead of its time.
That gun makes a round get into quantum instability, quite a breakthrough technology. If you're looking closely and expecting something - you get a tumbling round, but if you're not observing, it's 2 projectiles that hit the weakpoints no matter where you're aiming
Seeing the shock wave followed by the fire rings in the opening cinematic is actually insane, it's cooler than any game trailer or movie scene in the last 5 or so years. Edit: that whole opening is better than any movie or videogame cinematic I can recall, especially the shots where the camera is past the barrel and the whole thing shakes. Cant get enough of that, we need to see this in super-slow-mo
The bigger the caliber, the better. 50 cal pipe bolt action pistol with some what the hell legendary effect on it, works just fine. Hardly any barrel lenght/rifling but that's fallout logic for ya
The series went to hell with Return of the Jedi. Care Bears were all the rage, so Henson/Lucas gave us Ewoks. The series has been gayer than the month of June since.
Imagine a gang of crack sellers tries to fuck with you and you just pull out a fucking pocket Mosin that makes twice the holes compared to ammuniton it fires
I can imagine a Lovecraft short story where the part that drives the protagonist insane is that the only gun he has is this. *"Why?!"* he asks himself, but there can never be an answer.
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This is the most “Star Wars” looking gun that isn’t from Star Wars, looks like it would fit perfectly with the original trilogy’s assortment of cursed chopped up guns
the way the muzzle flash forms briefly forms a vortex/barrel at 1:50 is so cool looking. i would love to see that filmed with a super high speed camera
I remember when the Obrez pistol was a one shot in battlefield 1 you could also snipe from a considerable distance fun to play with interesting history behind it as well
Historical records from russian civil war states that cut down mosin could hit human sized target somewhat reliably at distance up to 50-100 meters, but those had substentially longer barrel, about 6-8 inches.
Btw, we call sawn-off shotgun the "obrez" (обрез) usually. Cuz ОБРЕЗать means to cut off, to saw off. It will work for mosin too, but people rarely do that.
It was probably more common in the past because of the sheer number of Mosins floating around in Russia. With their current gun laws I'm not surprised that it's more common to saw off shotguns.
@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 it is highly elligal to modify any firearm in Russia. I've heard of some people in US taking Mosins when they were less than $150, and make all kinds of crazy "post-apocalyptic" guns out of them.
@@titus_livius Oh yeah, some of the Mosin abominations that were for sale on Gunbroker have been immortalized through gun memes. Mosins didn't just suffer either. Enfields, Kar98s and other historical service rifles were bastardized, to every gun owners chagrin.
@@titus_livius There were even years and years where you could buy a box of 10 (heavily) used Mosins for just $300 to $400. If we were allowed to legally convert them to pistols, as most would have cracked stocks, I'd have a few.
Ive had an Idea. Step 1: remove pistol grip Step 2: atach the obrez to the bottom of any Assault rifle of choice in a way that has the Bolt going up when closed (or atach It to the side in a way that has the Bolt going over the handguard) Step 3 (optional): atach a trigger linkage system on the side of the obrez to make It easier to fire in the underbarrel configuration. End result: underbarrel/sidebarrel obrez.
Considering how both the "Completely Ordinary" Mosin, and the Obrez look, I'm realizing that pretty much all sci fi guns like those in Star Wars are little more than extremely cursed regular guns.
A lot of the blaster rifles were Sterlings with doodads on them, Han Solo’s pistol was a Mauser pistol with doodads, and you see various soldiers, both Rebel and Imperial, with MG-42s and Lewis guns. The stun gun the Jawas use is basically an SMLE Obrez with a grenade cup. There’s a Forgotten Weapons video on which actual guns the various props are made from
In mandalorian season 2, during the train-guarding episode they pulled out a bunch of weapons out of a box and it was just stock VSS Vintorezes and painted mosins
Obrez literally means "cut", this word is usually used to describe shotgun/rifle with a cut barrel (shorter than the original for close combat I assume). Usually in movies they just take a regular rifle or double barreled one and cut it by hand and go kill zombies, but this thing looks like a Star Wars blaster.
@TorpedoX In Russia they don't know who is Randy Weaver, who killed his family and the guys who saw off shotguns and rifles usually don't give a fuck about the law.
I feel like this would be FAR more accurate firing Wadcutter loads; Reloading the bullet backwards in the case would result in an almost teardrop-shaped projectile, which is inherently stable. The drastically reduced range is... well, this isn't gonna reach far no matter what, so there's basically no downside.
If you think turning the round upside down in the case is a good idea (which it is in regards to stability) just look into why all the old colt walker revolvers used to blow up. The point of the projectile increases the surface area in the case. Increased surface area means increased pressure, which mean kaboom
@@jurajokasa834 no it is 1200 to 1500 fps. Also the bullet weight is about 310 grains, 7.62x25 is avg 85 grains. So the Obrez has more than three times the power of a Tokarev round. 32 acp avg grain weight is 75 so Obrez hits like 5 times harder. Remember that you have to take bullet weight into account when calculating ballistics.
It's a multi-purpose gun, it's both a pistol and a flashbang dispenser. Even if you miss, the enemy will think you are shooting shark teeth with those keyholes.
My theory on the shot that produced two holes: the bullet broke in half. The nose tumbled the way you would expect. The back half was stable enough to produce a round hole, because it was actually short enough to be stabilized by the half inch of rifling.
-Shhh! It was a glitch in the matrix caught on tape: The system wasn’t familiar with the dynamics of such new gun and could not determine which one to save as a new default dynamic for this weird new pistol. Would people be more likely to buy into wilder overturning projectile, or would the first test group of shooters react with surprise/iritation towards the new mechanic too oftenly. Apparently we’ve just witnessed how the game ”made up its mind” on new fixed ballistic pattern that seems more realistic. … But for real, it really gets me how it went full blown „light both as wave/particle” with that shot, so please don’t take such nice wonder away…
This weapon‘s effectiveness could be summed up by say, if you were dueling at 30 paces against an opponent wielding a slingshot, you would die 2 out of 3 times.
Perfect Fallout pistol. Jokes aside though, you've got a 181 grain projectile moving at what you said was at least 1400 fps and thus smacking into someone with nearly 800 foot pounds of energy AND tumbling like mad as it does so - that's nearly twice the energy of a .45 and a darned ugly wound track. So while the thing is definitely big, bulky, slow to fire and reload, it's definitely only going to take one hit to remove an opponent from a conflict.
The obrez came in many different styles. Some still had the stock with a short barrel. Some didn't have the stock but still had the wood. And others like this one we're stripped down to the skeleton
I’d like to see this with the jury rigged piston gas system they put on some Enfields to make those semiautomatic. Just make this thing even more absurdly bulky
Honestly the most cursed thing about the Obrez is the modern optic on it. Also, the Obrez was designed as a trench clearing weapon since as you mentioned pistols weren't easy to come by and you definitely weren't gonna find a Russian SMG, so the Obrez was made and was mostly used during the civil war when pretty much everybody was short on recourses, even the communists who had the most factories.
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Actually, considering the unstability of this "pistol´s" round, it makes it even more dangerous. It´ll tumble heavily upon impact and would make a lot more damage than just piercing 7.62x54 mm bullet. So from close range this thing would chop down any man. And even when hitting an arm or leg, it´d be "game over" in first shot.
Let's be even more reasonable, you all are broke children who couldn't afford a gun line this let alone be man enough to use it against someone, maybe stupid enough but definitely not man enough.
If the round is already tumbling when it leaves the barrel, wouldn't it do more damage than a stabilized 7.62 round that would pass completely through someone?
@@suicidebattery1956 i feel like with that short of a barrel it really don't fuckin matter if it's stabilized or not. That's a 7 yard and in point shoot gun
My great grandpa had a blaster like this that he called his "snake gun." It was a break action 12 gauge single barrel that he manufactured from scratch. no, it wasn't an illegally modified shotgun. it was a scratch build item (and has since been destroyed). it basically had just enough "barrel" to cover the shotgun shell and otherwise looked like this obrez does (minus the bolt). he usually carried shot that was between bird and 00 buck (i forget the exact shot size) and you just had to vaguely point in the direction of a snake to blast it to smithereens. if you are gonna walk the Mojave, you really do need a gun like that which is light, quick to draw, and very reliable. you want to be able to spot a dangerous snake, draw, and shoot in about a second. and yes, my great grandpa would wander the actual Mojave like he was an NPC in fallout new vegas. he was a badass lol. something about killing nazis in WWII turned guys into badasses
That is cool and your grandfather sounds dope but there is no situation that I could imagine that you could get into wherein you would need to quickdraw on a snake to defend yourself lmao
@@fernandocarvallo9135 this gets me back to my 9mm with shot shells. Could I just use a solid bullet, maybe...but snakes are fast and hide under crap, so your reaction time matters a lot when you accidentally intrude on a poisonous one.
Obrez was cut with a bit longer barrel approximately 4-7 inches. They didn’t cut it that short. They also used to leave wood of foregrip almost to the end of the barrel. Obrez was popular with bandits mostly as it was easier to conceal and easier to shoot while riding horses.
As russian, i can say that "Obrez" is every cutted weapon in, well, "Rough" way, not like aks-74u. Mosin, TOZ-34, anything, that can be cutted to the every condition: from "Pretty big boi" to "wha", not only mosin. Btw, for russians "Обрез" associated with toz-34, that's mystery for me, why "Obrez" is mosin, but "Обрез" is toz, lol
@@Okuu_Appreciator As a russian, I will strongly disagree! I'm pretty sure, that it was never associated with TOZ. Toz34 was created by N.Korovyakov, who was born in 1937 !!!!! The Obrez has been around since the beginning of the 20th century, mostly from 1917thru 1930's and for every russian it's associated with either Mosin Nagant 1891 or any hunting rifle for that matter of that same era as well, but never a toz, that came out in 1965 as a production model, and at that time ( 1965) there was no need for obrez, as it was mostly the bandit's and rebel's choice of weapon.
Looks like a pipe pistol from fallout. The dong effect! 🤣 Thanks G thumb! I was watching this with my 7 yr old daughter..... You said the dong effect..... She was like yea daddy it looks like a bell. I was like yes sweetheart it looks like a bell. Happy 4th!
I remember when Dice added this weapon to battlefield 1. They basically allowed those armed with smgs and shotguns to carry a shortened rifle as a backup for long distance targets.
Ugh. Is it even a fact? Its just a language specific. I mean both words "обрез"(obrez) and "обрезание"(obrezaniye) are based on same word's stem "резать"(rezat'), which mean "cut". And you know, its exactly what you doing whether you cut piece of skin or piece of rifle.
There’s just something about a ‘bolt action pistol’ that SCREAMS “Do NOT put your head behind this thing when you fire it… IF you have the stones to even try!”
That actually looks like a kind of jury-rigged firearm that the crew of a starship stranded on a habitable planet with no way of getting off of it would build to hunt the local fauna for food while trying to survive.
@@Paddy-zn4oo Well the difference between the Obrez and other pistols is that the Obrez uses an actual rifle round not a measly small calibre round like a 9mm or something like that so I'd assume the damage output from the Obrez would have considerably more penetration capabilities and more damage to flesh, but that would be my guess lol. Hopefully we will get a video showcasing this, that would be interesting!
Guy 1: I want a pistol that can crispy skin someone up close Guy 2: Don't worry fam. I got you. Guy 2 pulls out the chopped Mosin Nagant from the secret vault.
This makes me wonder what would happen if there was about two full inches of rifling, and the propellant was switched out to something with a faster burn rate. More stability, higher kinetic energy, definitely more recoil...
Some Obrez did (and do) have barrels as long as six or so inches of rifling. If you reload the cases with light bullets and faster powder (H-110, for instance, or the "universal load" of Unique) you can get a gun that's worth actually putting sights on. You'll have similar ballistics to a .30 Super Carry in a 4+1 bolt action that still weighs five or six pounds -- but it'll actually be aimable.
So basically what I'm getting from this is when the barrels that short on a 7.62x54r is so unstable it's more like chucking a rock at 1200fps than a proper flight of a projectile......sounds messy
Well it was a "hide under coat, walk next to someone, whip quickly out at point blank range, pull trigger" weapon. Revolutinary political assassinations or criminal thuggery. Hard core revolutionary wouldn't even care about the second shot, unless the first *at point blank range* managed to miss the target. Push the gun to targets chest or ear and pull trigger. Not much chance of missing. The massive shock of that hefty energetic tumble bullet makes sure person is really really dead. Well in case of criminal ganstering, walk next to someone, pull that from under cost, point at their head and say "I have offer you can't refuse, do exactly as I say or I will turn your head to a bloody stump and bunch of brain splatter."
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You know, looking at the recoil in slow-motion it just occurred to me that fitting that thing with an ergonomic revolver grip would probably make all the difference in the world.
2 projectiles for the price of 1! This thing reduces net ammo cost back to pre-2020 prices. I'll take 7.
I saw no drawbacks with that lmao I was like "1500 fps? 2 in 1? What's not to love?"
Borderlands series gun:)
a weapon to surpass metal gear
Interesting fact: weapons like OBREZ was used in times of 1918-1920 civil war in Russia against Reds (communists) and Whites (monarchists). In general obrez was used by farmer resistanse in ambush attacs on times of "prodrazverstka" (expropriation of farmer products for Red Army and cityes population by communists).
Its suboptimal to attack group of people armed with normal mosins with this abomination. In reality obrez mostly used to ambush unarmed people and robbing
I love the ring of fire that comes out when fired, I want one just for that
that obrez has so much bass to it's sound, I thought you deepfried the sound
You guys should team up with The slow mo Guys and get some nice slow mo of bullet trajectories.
I know Dan served with the British military and I think he still is.
Obrez so powerful it shoots twice with one bullet, sometimes.
9:38 - On quarter speed you can actually see the projectile spinning wildly.
It would be great to see the trajectory of the bullet in slow motion, You should do a collab with the Ballistics High-Speed channel, they just bought a camera that captures a quarter million fps
That could be useful in a home defense situation! Both a firearm and a flash bang!
Dr. Garandthumb is like that guy that tells you what weapon you're using for training, but you can't skip the dialogue before the cutscene.
Hey mister garand thumb I see that Alice Gear you've got, would you ever snatch an enhanced load bearing vest?
Glad it got to you safely! Enjoy, and congrats on 2 Million 😘
Please send it to Ian, we all need it to be forgotten.
The AK furniture is class.
You should give them Punt gun.
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The final form of the big Iron on his hip.
A weapon to surpass metal gear
"Let's see how a bullet looks fired through a regular Mosin." Proceeds to pull out a scoped meth lab.
“Jesus wept”
@@GarandThumb "And his tears were Mountain Dew"
'Scoped meth lab'...🤣
Wait till he finds about Vintage Warfare's "Sigma Grindset" variation
I see it and go right to the Godfather "Look how they massacred my boy!"
The Obrez is one of those guns you could modify and use as a prop in a Star Wars movie and people seeing it in said movie would be thinking "that blaster pistol isn't based on anything irl."
Funny, because the Obrez does appear in Star Wars.
@@xsct878 Where? And don't say the Jawa stun gun. That's a sawed-off Lee-Enfield.
@@DarthBaras13 I'm not a huge Star Wars fan, but I need to check out that stun gun, a sawed off Lee sounds so cursed
"Obrez" in russian relates to just about any rifle with cut down barrel - usually for concealment purposes. Typically a double-barrel hunting rifle could undergo such "mod" by criminals, or another famous case - RPD LMG cut down by USA rangers in Vietnam - no precision, but compact/lighter and good for suppression fire in the jungle.
Mosin was often cut down by "counter-revolution elements" to resist Soviet NKVD/ChK/militia or to be used in robberies/etc.
Technically it can be done not only by sawing but by shooting a rifle with its barrel partially submerged in water.
@@DarthBaras13 obrez just refers to a rifle with cut down barrel. so that is an obrez
I love how the “regular” Mosin has a nice clean sound when fired but the Obrez makes the sound become bass boosted.
Cuz that's the bullet breaking the sound barrier in the air. Usually it's in the barrel so you don't hear it in the same capacity
Yeah seeing them make different sounds is wierd but expected
@@bombomos I know, it’s just hilarious hearing it out of the Obrez.
@@bombomos uh no, the sound is different bc the powder can’t all burn before the bullet leaves the muzzle, most of the gunpowder is igniting outside of the barrel which is why it has so little recoil and much lower velocity
@@bombomos Frankly, did those the bullets even reach speed of sound? No way all the gunpowder is burnt before bullet exits the barrel, thus a lot of energy is lost and 7,62×54R cartriges have quite heavy projectiles (ussually around 11 grams), so...
The ultimate recce weapon: short so it's easy to maneuver. Short barrel for short range capabilities. High caliber so long range shots are viable. Russian cause why not. And big iron as well. Quintessential
Imagine the stopping power from it at short range!
Best weapon I’ve seen to perform the Mosin Beak
Common ammo too!
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Quintessential 😆 more like Perfection.
When I was growing up in Russia my grandpa had an Obrez like that. It was so short, the bullet was actually sticking out of the “barrel” if you can even call that a barrel. They cut it too short lol. He killed squirrels with it just by aiming at them, the muzzle shock did most of the killing work lol
@@strung_music Probabily no
That's why I leave squirrel killing to my cat. If I shot at a squirrel with anything other than my bow and arrows, you'd get squirrel mist.
@@themastermason1 .22 is pretty good at it
@@potatothatisspicy I don't have a .22. I've never even shot a .22. The "weakest" gun I have is a .38 special.
@@themastermason1 Chad mentality
It’s funny how the geared up Mosin with the rails and crap looks more ridiculous than the pistol version
I loved that take on it, myself.
It looks so bad, especially that god awful extended mag and the barrel shroud. Christ, looks like that mosin was dragged through a tacticool shit catalogue
It's awesome as fuck lol yall are crazy
The Obrez isn't cursed, it's just way ahead of it's time... It belongs in the apocalypse.
They should make a bunch of those if they ever do another Mad Max movie.
It’s more of a mad Marx gun
Tbh, civil war in Russia was the mad max 1919
Legend has it that its serbian batmans weapon of choice
I like this idea
lol when that time russians were.making gun and riffle with same caliber (easier than obrez lol)
Fireball is also a feature, it is effectively flash bang, discombobulating the target(and the operator), meaning the bullet is in an un-observed state, allowing it fire the two projectiles instead of the single projectile, truly ahead of its time.
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Discombobulate
This quantum discombobulation is just what contemporary physics needs.
Ah I see, the bullet, when unobserved, is in a quantum superstate of hit AND miss simultaneously. Hence one round on target, and one not
There should be more than two holes if it is truly in the quantum state, lol.
That gun makes a round get into quantum instability, quite a breakthrough technology.
If you're looking closely and expecting something - you get a tumbling round, but if you're not observing, it's 2 projectiles that hit the weakpoints no matter where you're aiming
The Mosin-Schrodinger-Nagant. The pistol with the cat-chy name!
It only shoots two projectiles if there is an observer. Without an observer it turns the 7.62x54R into a wave function.
Ah yes the classic double round experiment who could forget such an experiment
Lol loving this
Lmao I was explaining that experiment to my wife last night. She still doesn’t get it. She makes a mean blt and gives the best top tho
Please, one minute of silence to pay respect to the Mosin killed so that monstrocity could exist.
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Ehh there are millions
@@Iron_Soil Every Mosin life counts
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No
The Obrez, a.k.a: When you finally find a Hunting Rifle in Fallout 4 yet completely neglected the Gun Nut skill.
And it was a legendary Two-Shot version too! lucky!
Haha I thought fallout as well
Literally a Mosin setup in pf
Its in DayZ as well.
@@tinmimax3samjoe889 or just equip Obrez in secondary...
The only firearm the federal government is comfortable with the people owning
Hilariously factual
The double barrel obrez mosin nagant
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"b-b-b-ut i might need my gun to fight against a tyrannical government!!!" says the guy afraid of the spider in the bathroom
@@CodenameHaswelly L
"Can you imagine being shot at by this at night?"
No... no I cannot, because the word for "Obrez firing at night" is called "daytime"....
I shit you not I read your comment as he said it on screen. Pretty wild lol
If the tumbling projectile doesn't get you, the fireball will.
@@MichaelDavis-cy4ok fireball???
@@Kaliburrrr its basically a flashbang at close range in the dark
the correct term is "rapid onset sunshine"
Seeing the shock wave followed by the fire rings in the opening cinematic is actually insane, it's cooler than any game trailer or movie scene in the last 5 or so years. Edit: that whole opening is better than any movie or videogame cinematic I can recall, especially the shots where the camera is past the barrel and the whole thing shakes. Cant get enough of that, we need to see this in super-slow-mo
Right? Those rings were badass
All that unburnt powder
One of the slow motion shots literally looked like he fired a space gun
Imagine being on the other end of that fireball. Even if bullet miss, target will feel like getting punched by kangaroo while getting flashbanged.
A bolt-action, 5-shot, 180-gr, tumbling Russian potato gun.
Clearly, this calls for a threaded-on suppressor. 😆
GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT
That sounds like a recipe for a baffle strike since the bullet isn't stabilizing and occasionally breaking in half. We DEFINITELY need to see this!
Needs a Bramat suppressor
"Mom, can we get a Desert Eagle?"
"No, we have a Desert Eagle at home"
Desert Eagle at home:
Huh?What?
Ironically I'd take this over a deagle
I do NOT blame you one bit for double DOUBLE checking that chamber when you were ghosting that trigger.
Yea that would've been real bad that thing going off in your face with no ear pro. 3rd degree burns too.
The world needs more real bolt action pistols, Fallout 4 and 76 has taught us this lesson.
The bigger the caliber, the better. 50 cal pipe bolt action pistol with some what the hell legendary effect on it, works just fine. Hardly any barrel lenght/rifling but that's fallout logic for ya
Considering how bad those games are idk if that’s a good thing to say💀 tho yes… bolt action pistols are awesome.
@@braincube013 agreed. Fallout nv guns> fallout 4,76
@@braincube013 Fallout 76 is not good, but Fallout 4 has some good things
@@heliogonzalezsanchez8227 Without mods ( a lot of them ) I’d just rather play older titles.
If I were still a star wars fan, I'd say that thing would make an excellent blaster for a show...if I were still a star wars fan.
Thankfully I didn't waste my time watching any of the new ones.
I remember when I too was a star wars fan.... those were good times.
The series went to hell with Return of the Jedi. Care Bears were all the rage, so Henson/Lucas gave us Ewoks. The series has been gayer than the month of June since.
Fan fic is better than the current shit
This would definitely be cool to see on the mandalorian, would look right at home
I’m not gonna lie I would really want one of these even tho they are stupid, but the historical neatness is just too much to pass up
In a trench it might work to kill everybody down a line including your mates
O hello you need to get out of that house right now how do you know where I am you're dad and still kill qws
okay little boy go back to class
Oh hey there
Imagine a gang of crack sellers tries to fuck with you and you just pull out a fucking pocket Mosin that makes twice the holes compared to ammuniton it fires
“Dude, I’m not going to shoot that.” (Already sorting ammunition for it….) yep sounds like every good range trip to me.
I can imagine a Lovecraft short story where the part that drives the protagonist insane is that the only gun he has is this.
*"Why?!"* he asks himself, but there can never be an answer.
hey the call of Cthulhu was set in 1891 so its possible
He ends up shooting himself with it
Here comes the metal(s) man.
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This is the most “Star Wars” looking gun that isn’t from Star Wars, looks like it would fit perfectly with the original trilogy’s assortment of cursed chopped up guns
It’s in battlefield one and battlefront games
There's the jawas blaster that's looks pretty close to it, it's basically the same but instead of a mosin it's an SMLE
Looks more a Fallout weapon to me
Beat me to it. lol
hey my Sterling SMG with fins on it is awesome, don't knock the E-11, it's perfectly normal to weld a giant scope onto everything.
the way the muzzle flash forms briefly forms a vortex/barrel at 1:50 is so cool looking. i would love to see that filmed with a super high speed camera
1:45
1:49
@@DurinThe_Deathless as if he didnt saw that bruh
Hmmm, why do I feel like we are slowly seen Garand Thumb turn in to solid snake?
He always was...
Not Solid Snake, but the Big Boss himself
@Merc Kitsuné Huh?! What was THAT noise???
Solid thumb!
Colonel!! Im trying to sneak around, but the clap of my asscheeks keeps alerting the Guards
8:50
therefore, the Obrez is superior to a regular Mosin due to its capability of performing black magic
See, your problem was you were using quality ammo. Feed that thing some shit steel cased and jacketed!
Makes sense since shit ammo will be slower hence work better with no barrel
What is that sound effect at 0:53 ?
When the dragon knight things were hunting frodo, they used the sound effect. From the lord of the rings. Sorry I couldn't be more specific lol
Thanks for finally reviewing my concealed carry of choice. Its no glock, but i was surprised it took this long. Truly an underrated gem
probably at least as concealable as a Mauser C17
I remember when the Obrez pistol was a one shot in battlefield 1 you could also snipe from a considerable distance fun to play with interesting history behind it as well
Still is
Historical records from russian civil war states that cut down mosin could hit human sized target somewhat reliably at distance up to 50-100 meters, but those had substentially longer barrel, about 6-8 inches.
Still my favorite BF1 sidearm, well tied with auto revolver.
I was scrolling through and I saw your name and thought that it was someone's one word explanation for the Obrez .
@@Dethmeister
You're probably not wrong
The Obrez has a 10% chance to release an additional projectile when fired.
Thats a enchantment
"Do you think I could hit a target at 25 meters?"
"At least 80% of the time."
"How many times out of three?"
*"Once or twice."*
Btw, we call sawn-off shotgun the "obrez" (обрез) usually. Cuz ОБРЕЗать means to cut off, to saw off.
It will work for mosin too, but people rarely do that.
It was probably more common in the past because of the sheer number of Mosins floating around in Russia. With their current gun laws I'm not surprised that it's more common to saw off shotguns.
@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 it is highly elligal to modify any firearm in Russia. I've heard of some people in US taking Mosins when they were less than $150, and make all kinds of crazy "post-apocalyptic" guns out of them.
@@titus_livius Oh yeah, some of the Mosin abominations that were for sale on Gunbroker have been immortalized through gun memes.
Mosins didn't just suffer either. Enfields, Kar98s and other historical service rifles were bastardized, to every gun owners chagrin.
@@titus_livius There were even years and years where you could buy a box of 10 (heavily) used Mosins for just $300 to $400. If we were allowed to legally convert them to pistols, as most would have cracked stocks, I'd have a few.
Смерть председателя. Но как американцам донести смысл ?
"A shortened Mosin Nagant intended for use by revolutionaries and insurgents. Inaccurate, but instantly kills with headshots."
Most accurate part is calling it a Nagant.
Oh yeah the Phantom forces description!!
Ive had an Idea.
Step 1: remove pistol grip
Step 2: atach the obrez to the bottom of any Assault rifle of choice in a way that has the Bolt going up when closed (or atach It to the side in a way that has the Bolt going over the handguard)
Step 3 (optional): atach a trigger linkage system on the side of the obrez to make It easier to fire in the underbarrel configuration.
End result: underbarrel/sidebarrel obrez.
1 the fuck you smoking bruv
2 where can I find whatever you are smoking
3 I now want an underbarrel obrez
oh god no....
Why!?!? For the love of all guns that are holy
So, an M26 MASS but it's a Mosin and doesn't have the optional stock?
Finally, a gun attachment for guns
With that barrel length the muzzle flash is doing all the damage
I wanna stick a blank in it and see the damage
That opening montage was funny, especially the way you completely missed several targets from only about 15 feet away.
Considering how both the "Completely Ordinary" Mosin, and the Obrez look, I'm realizing that pretty much all sci fi guns like those in Star Wars are little more than extremely cursed regular guns.
A lot of the blaster rifles were Sterlings with doodads on them, Han Solo’s pistol was a Mauser pistol with doodads, and you see various soldiers, both Rebel and Imperial, with MG-42s and Lewis guns. The stun gun the Jawas use is basically an SMLE Obrez with a grenade cup.
There’s a Forgotten Weapons video on which actual guns the various props are made from
you JUST figured that out?
In mandalorian season 2, during the train-guarding episode they pulled out a bunch of weapons out of a box and it was just stock VSS Vintorezes and painted mosins
Basically collectors are super angry that there's no Mauser C96 any more because Star Wars fans wanted them to be props for their Han Solo DL-44.
Hence storm troopers.
There's a lot less recoil than I expected.
Ohh it kicks like a mule!! This man just knows how to handle his weapons
That cinematic opening makes the Obrez seem like an ancient accursed weapon used to brutalize time-traveling evil, which it is
Do u know what the opening is from?
@@twurtle12hd39 Lord of the Rings
Obrez literally means "cut", this word is usually used to describe shotgun/rifle with a cut barrel (shorter than the original for close combat I assume). Usually in movies they just take a regular rifle or double barreled one and cut it by hand and go kill zombies, but this thing looks like a Star Wars blaster.
Its literally the russian language equivalent to "sawn-off"
@@muffininacup4060 обрез
@TorpedoX In Russia they don't know who is Randy Weaver, who killed his family and the guys who saw off shotguns and rifles usually don't give a fuck about the law.
@TorpedoX Well this thing is already produced like this so I would assume it's not illegal. Who knows.
it also means cut as in circumcised
Garand Thumb: the Obrez is the most bizarre firearm ever
KelTek: Hold my crack pipe
Classic
Correction: hold my bullpups
I'm sorry do you mean _KekTek?_
I feel like this would be FAR more accurate firing Wadcutter loads;
Reloading the bullet backwards in the case would result in an almost teardrop-shaped projectile, which is inherently stable.
The drastically reduced range is... well, this isn't gonna reach far no matter what, so there's basically no downside.
If you think turning the round upside down in the case is a good idea (which it is in regards to stability) just look into why all the old colt walker revolvers used to blow up. The point of the projectile increases the surface area in the case. Increased surface area means increased pressure, which mean kaboom
Semi wadcutters
More reasonable
There meant to punch holes through paper
Russian k bullet lol
@@e3s5m7stoner3 well that’s related specifically to metallurgy mate.
That's what the British did against sniper plates in WW1. Creating the Spalding effect off the steel plate.
1,200 fps... so you're getting 7.62x25mm ballistics out of 54mmR. That's a huge, bolt-action Tokarev.
1200 LESS than regular 54R
so its like 800fps in reality so its like 32ACP
@@jurajokasa834 no it is 1200 to 1500 fps. Also the bullet weight is about 310 grains, 7.62x25 is avg 85 grains. So the Obrez has more than three times the power of a Tokarev round. 32 acp avg grain weight is 75 so Obrez hits like 5 times harder. Remember that you have to take bullet weight into account when calculating ballistics.
@@jurajokasa834 the bullet is more than 2x the weight of a 7.62 tokarev so 2x the power
@@0Flingyding0 yeah definitely not 310 grains... 54r runs around 140-200 grains at its absolute limit
@@callum1465 I'm running 220 cast lead mate.
Admittedly, that compact affront to firearm principles is emitting some powerful Firefly energy.
It aims to misbehave.
@@klinec38 It doesnt aim at all
finally a left handed pistol
It's a multi-purpose gun, it's both a pistol and a flashbang dispenser. Even if you miss, the enemy will think you are shooting shark teeth with those keyholes.
My theory on the shot that produced two holes: the bullet broke in half. The nose tumbled the way you would expect. The back half was stable enough to produce a round hole, because it was actually short enough to be stabilized by the half inch of rifling.
-Shhh!
It was a glitch in the matrix caught on tape:
The system wasn’t familiar with the dynamics of such new gun and could not determine which one to save as a new default dynamic for this weird new pistol.
Would people be more likely to buy into wilder overturning projectile, or would the first test group of shooters react with surprise/iritation towards the new mechanic too oftenly.
Apparently we’ve just witnessed how the game ”made up its mind” on new fixed ballistic pattern that seems more realistic.
…
But for real, it really gets me how it went full blown „light both as wave/particle” with that shot, so please don’t take such nice wonder away…
@@EMlNENCJA Hey, I didn't even speculate on *why* the bullet might have broken. ;)
It was a magic bullet like JFK. His camera guy fired a shot at the exact same time.
This is as close to practical joke as it gets... not just practical - its tactical...
Battlefield 1 memories.
yes !! I wasn't the only one thinking about bf1 when I saw this video lol.
Same man the good ole days
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I wish that game wasn’t deader than dead
@@yeedbottomtext7563 what platform do you play on? I play on xbox and I can still find games pretty easy...well atleast for certain game modes anyway.
BRB, I'll watch this wastelander contraption review after I take Dogmeat for a walk.
Who?
@@BoredAmerican Dogmeat
@@BoredAmerican It's a Fallout 3/4 reference. There's a dog named "Dogmeat" in both games, that is a NPC follower/Easter egg.
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Good one!
ah yes, the obrez, when you want a realistic reenactment of the renaissance era but you don't have enough money for an arquebus.
Dude, have you *seen* the prices on reproduction matchlocks?!? 🤪
This weapon‘s effectiveness could be summed up by say, if you were dueling at 30 paces against an opponent wielding a slingshot, you would die 2 out of 3 times.
Perfect Fallout pistol.
Jokes aside though, you've got a 181 grain projectile moving at what you said was at least 1400 fps and thus smacking into someone with nearly 800 foot pounds of energy AND tumbling like mad as it does so - that's nearly twice the energy of a .45 and a darned ugly wound track.
So while the thing is definitely big, bulky, slow to fire and reload, it's definitely only going to take one hit to remove an opponent from a conflict.
Putting it like that. That's what we call the "Internal Blender"
Exactly my thoughts on it. It's absolutely stupid, but there's definitely someone running it (or something similar) in Warzone.
I was just thinking a 180 grain 44 mag at 1300fps as a comparison for foot pounds.
Crazy lol.
seems like a fuctional assasination weapon since you only need the one shot making any attempt to stop the assasin useless.
The obrez came in many different styles. Some still had the stock with a short barrel. Some didn't have the stock but still had the wood. And others like this one we're stripped down to the skeleton
I’d like to see this with the jury rigged piston gas system they put on some Enfields to make those semiautomatic. Just make this thing even more absurdly bulky
I think you mean Jerry-Rigged. Jury-rigged is what happened in the Ghislaine Maxwell trial.
That’s something you’d definitely fire with your left hand.
@@Gideon_Judges6 no hes correct, jury rigged means hastily made with available parts. jerry rigged means hastily and poorly made with available parts.
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My girlfriend says that's a perfectly sized Mosin. She's right guys....right?
Hate to tell you dude, but she’s trying not to hurt your feelings
My girlfriend said it actually might be a little big
"The big rifles hurt, that Mosin is so sma-I mean it's perfect"
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Honestly the most cursed thing about the Obrez is the modern optic on it.
Also, the Obrez was designed as a trench clearing weapon since as you mentioned pistols weren't easy to come by and you definitely weren't gonna find a Russian SMG, so the Obrez was made and was mostly used during the civil war when pretty much everybody was short on recourses, even the communists who had the most factories.
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Actually, considering the unstability of this "pistol´s" round, it makes it even more dangerous. It´ll tumble heavily upon impact and would make a lot more damage than just piercing 7.62x54 mm bullet. So from close range this thing would chop down any man. And even when hitting an arm or leg, it´d be "game over" in first shot.
and let's be reasonable, no one will snipe with this thing. It's more of a conceal and shoot when you are certain to hit.
Who needs a shot gun with this thing around?!
Let's be even more reasonable, you all are broke children who couldn't afford a gun line this let alone be man enough to use it against someone, maybe stupid enough but definitely not man enough.
You are basically flinging shrapnel out of this thing.
7x62x54r being unstable??? It flies very straight. Do you mean the 7.62x39???
Or do you just mean the lack of barrel??
1:49 seeing the pressure ring is just evidence that this weapon is truly legendary and one that can only be wielded by the most chad of operators.
Are they hanging chads?
@@Nunya9876 that joke is about 22 years past it’s sell by date serve it to Gordon Ramsey.
@@BobbyBoozeDoc I’m sure he’d overcook chads and serve them late!
If the round is already tumbling when it leaves the barrel, wouldn't it do more damage than a stabilized 7.62 round that would pass completely through someone?
yeah kinda if you hit them
Gotta hit your target to do any damage
That's a bigass if lol
As a close quarter weapon OH YES! If you want to impress with marksmanship, you deserve to die.
@@suicidebattery1956 i feel like with that short of a barrel it really don't fuckin matter if it's stabilized or not. That's a 7 yard and in point shoot gun
Cinematic at the beginning was awesome. I want more like that.
If this weapon was in call of duty, Activision would make it hit 100 m headshots with little effort.
It is in call of duty.
It's the only one-shot instant kill sidearm.
My great grandpa had a blaster like this that he called his "snake gun." It was a break action 12 gauge single barrel that he manufactured from scratch. no, it wasn't an illegally modified shotgun. it was a scratch build item (and has since been destroyed). it basically had just enough "barrel" to cover the shotgun shell and otherwise looked like this obrez does (minus the bolt). he usually carried shot that was between bird and 00 buck (i forget the exact shot size) and you just had to vaguely point in the direction of a snake to blast it to smithereens. if you are gonna walk the Mojave, you really do need a gun like that which is light, quick to draw, and very reliable. you want to be able to spot a dangerous snake, draw, and shoot in about a second. and yes, my great grandpa would wander the actual Mojave like he was an NPC in fallout new vegas. he was a badass lol. something about killing nazis in WWII turned guys into badasses
A 9mm with shot shells kills snakes fine and is utterly legal.
Gigachad grandpa
That is cool and your grandfather sounds dope but there is no situation that I could imagine that you could get into wherein you would need to quickdraw on a snake to defend yourself lmao
@@fernandocarvallo9135 this gets me back to my 9mm with shot shells. Could I just use a solid bullet, maybe...but snakes are fast and hide under crap, so your reaction time matters a lot when you accidentally intrude on a poisonous one.
@@jacobcoles6986 he said nazis not people
Obrez was cut with a bit longer barrel approximately 4-7 inches. They didn’t cut it that short. They also used to leave wood of foregrip almost to the end of the barrel. Obrez was popular with bandits mostly as it was easier to conceal and easier to shoot while riding horses.
@Zed Kay Ever lived in Soviet Union or been in Russian Military?!
I've read 4 to 8 inches myself. He said they didn't bother crowning the barrel as well. Probably why that one round split in two.
As russian, i can say that "Obrez" is every cutted weapon in, well, "Rough" way, not like aks-74u. Mosin, TOZ-34, anything, that can be cutted to the every condition: from "Pretty big boi" to "wha", not only mosin. Btw, for russians "Обрез" associated with toz-34, that's mystery for me, why "Obrez" is mosin, but "Обрез" is toz, lol
@@Okuu_Appreciator because it's cursed it happened a second time
@@Okuu_Appreciator As a russian, I will strongly disagree! I'm pretty sure, that it was never associated with TOZ. Toz34 was created by N.Korovyakov, who was born in 1937 !!!!! The Obrez has been around since the beginning of the 20th century, mostly from 1917thru 1930's and for every russian it's associated with either Mosin Nagant 1891 or any hunting rifle for that matter of that same era as well, but never a toz, that came out in 1965 as a production model, and at that time ( 1965) there was no need for obrez, as it was mostly the bandit's and rebel's choice of weapon.
Looks like a pipe pistol from fallout. The dong effect! 🤣 Thanks G thumb! I was watching this with my 7 yr old daughter..... You said the dong effect..... She was like yea daddy it looks like a bell. I was like yes sweetheart it looks like a bell. Happy 4th!
I remember when Dice added this weapon to battlefield 1.
They basically allowed those armed with smgs and shotguns to carry a shortened rifle as a backup for long distance targets.
That’s exactly why I use it for the Assault Class lol
@Dr Disconect Try maschinenpistole 1912 P16 and gasser if you want some challenge, shit's always need to reload
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@Dr Disconect yes but reload time is awful
Chad's run mosin with mosin
Fun fact: Obrez, which is a sawed-off long gun is very similar to Obrezaniye which is Russian for circumcision.
Ugh. Is it even a fact? Its just a language specific. I mean both words "обрез"(obrez) and "обрезание"(obrezaniye) are based on same word's stem "резать"(rezat'), which mean "cut". And you know, its exactly what you doing whether you cut piece of skin or piece of rifle.
@@pz__3 which is a fact... so...
That’s messed up what they did to those mosins
Obrez... Such a perfect name! (something that is cut, in every Slavic language)
There’s just something about a ‘bolt action pistol’ that SCREAMS “Do NOT put your head behind this thing when you fire it… IF you have the stones to even try!”
OBREZ: Pistol
HP: 50
Accuracy: 33
Damage: 100 ( range modified)
Close 100 + 5000 fire damage
Long 10 ( no modifier )
Speed: 5
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That actually looks like a kind of jury-rigged firearm that the crew of a starship stranded on a habitable planet with no way of getting off of it would build to hunt the local fauna for food while trying to survive.
Id like to see a "penetration" test with this on the ballistic dummy. A FMJ round, tumbling through the body should create quite the wound channel.
And penetration test against body armour. Considering 99.9% of all handguns cant penetrate LVL 3A body armour, would this work.
@@Paddy-zn4oo Well the difference between the Obrez and other pistols is that the Obrez uses an actual rifle round not a measly small calibre round like a 9mm or something like that so I'd assume the damage output from the Obrez would have considerably more penetration capabilities and more damage to flesh, but that would be my guess lol. Hopefully we will get a video showcasing this, that would be interesting!
@@paparoach007 more damage to flesh, but much less penetration distance and possibly not pierce level 3a armor at all.
@@Paddy-zn4oo The penetration relies on your luck stat
You know with that much sight offset you really should have a spirit level under the sight. :)
Guy 1: I want a pistol that can crispy skin someone up close
Guy 2: Don't worry fam. I got you.
Guy 2 pulls out the chopped Mosin Nagant from the secret vault.
I’d take this over a liberator 100% of the time
This makes me wonder what would happen if there was about two full inches of rifling, and the propellant was switched out to something with a faster burn rate. More stability, higher kinetic energy, definitely more recoil...
Some Obrez did (and do) have barrels as long as six or so inches of rifling. If you reload the cases with light bullets and faster powder (H-110, for instance, or the "universal load" of Unique) you can get a gun that's worth actually putting sights on. You'll have similar ballistics to a .30 Super Carry in a 4+1 bolt action that still weighs five or six pounds -- but it'll actually be aimable.
A sore wrist
The painifier
Uh...maybe someone said it already, but "obrez" means sawed-off. So it is applycable to any shortened russian gun
Loved the jump cut while “praising” the AFT. Love those guys and their infinite wisdom!
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yeah real original.. never seen that done before on youtube gun channels.. someone give him an oscar
I would LOVE to see this thing used on a ballistics dummy at various distances! I'd imagine that tumbling is VERY effective against soft targets!
It's gonna HURT
@@johndowe7003 You won't feel it when you're dead
@@assertingdominance1759 its gonna have to a good shot to kill instantly, that thing will probably leave ya bleeding out for a hot minute
@@johndowe7003 adrenaline can be quite good anesthesia but it only last for how long so you're right
Mosin Nagant: "POP!"
Mic: ...
Cursed Obrez: "THUMP!"
Mic: Oof!
So basically what I'm getting from this is when the barrels that short on a 7.62x54r is so unstable it's more like chucking a rock at 1200fps than a proper flight of a projectile......sounds messy
Well it was a "hide under coat, walk next to someone, whip quickly out at point blank range, pull trigger" weapon.
Revolutinary political assassinations or criminal thuggery. Hard core revolutionary wouldn't even care about the second shot, unless the first *at point blank range* managed to miss the target. Push the gun to targets chest or ear and pull trigger. Not much chance of missing. The massive shock of that hefty energetic tumble bullet makes sure person is really really dead.
Well in case of criminal ganstering, walk next to someone, pull that from under cost, point at their head and say "I have offer you can't refuse, do exactly as I say or I will turn your head to a bloody stump and bunch of brain splatter."
Then you can hit them with it.
Russian accent.
@@aritakalo8011 I'm well aware of what it was used for..... simply a comment on ballistics and flight of the projectile