Can We Beat 3 Good Decks With Mono Black?
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- Опубликовано: 6 май 2024
- Thoralf brings the classic 8-rack strategy to play against 3 of the best decks in modern. Can he beat them all?
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Love these videos (especially if they're modern related) but it was sad to see a strange G-tron list being played :(
@BaalRoi Jamin simply accidentally shuffled the sideboard into the mainboard 😅 outside of that, it was a standard Tron list :)
I don't know if someone has already said it but in game one Thoralf had the win if he played the rack after having Carl discard a card. I know it's not a big deal and we all miss play, heck maybe I'm not seeing it all but as far as I can tell the third Rack would have made the life total difference, carl would have lost during his upkeep. All the love and keep playing magic!
Game 2 Jamin could've copied Thoralf's Rack with the metamorph
Yaaaassss
Yeah it almost seemed like Thoralf saw that and was ready to scoop them up, but didn’t have to!
I feel like resetting The One Ring was still the correct okay, since Jamin would have lost to his own card before the Rack got Thoralf.
Thoralf was at 1. Copying rack would have killed him upon passing the turn.@@blueredlover1060
@@blueredlover1060 No. Jamin's Rack would trigger at Thoralf's upkeep. While the Ring could only doom Jamin at his next upkeep.
Jamin copying Thoralf’s rack to win would have been amazing.
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@@jaminkauf6242 I too get blinded by drawing cards
I saw that immediately, I thought the game was his
Also he could've used sylvan scrying to get boseiju to hit mutavault
Yeah, I thought that should be the play as well. However I'm not familiar with the rack
"Discardmarket" sounds like some mirror universe shenanigans.
This show single-handedly keeps my love for paper magic alive
"Chalice doesn't do much" spoken like a man who hasn't been Chalice'd for 1 on 8-rack before.
The chalice is the tron deck is generally there to be played for 0. It locks out a bunch of your own cards if you play it on 1, so more of a double edged sword.
Gotta remember, it counters both. So when playing Tron if you chalice on 1 you stop a lot of his stuff, but now you also lose access to like 12 cards in your deck. So it'd be fine to do later once you have all the mana you need, but early it could cost you the game.
@@uriarte411 Do y'all realize that the only way 8-Rack can win is by playing 1 Mana Rack effects? There is no way to remove chalice, and no wincon can be played. It is a free win for Tron
@@waterguzzler5993 Davriel and mutavault are still win conditions but yeah chalice is good.
Should also point out that you should be running urzas saga in 8rack
@@waterguzzler5993 Not a free win for tron but good attempt at assessing the decks.
I got inspired by Cardmarket to start playing Modern! Got my ass beat
What deck are you playing :)
@@CardmarketMagicI played Temur Prowess against a Domain Zoo
Argh Jamin missed the funniest play possible
Metamorphing Thoralf's copy of The Rack
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I've had a control player draw in response to their Ring trigger. They drew a Tishana which blanked the ring trigger, it was their only out !
then I untapped and bolted them thrice
15:31 If you were to copy the rack and use the upkeep trigger, Thoralf 6 would be damaged
Carl looks amazing in costumes and the flair he brings is top notch. Also big cheers for the black suffering deck
you guys make the only content on MTG I can stomach. No one tries to act like they're the best MTG player of all time, and you ALWAYS seem to be having fun. Great content gents.
0:40 love how you can just see the card in the hat
Wasn’t there a cityscape leveler in Jamin’s yard to smash in thoralfs face at around 17:00
He threw that game in a few ways
As someone who plays mono black for the absolute most part, this is a treat!
The fact Thoralf almost won against Domain Zoo as well makes me think that this deck could do very well if modernized. That said Jamin did misplay and didn't copy the rack with the metamorph, but still.
I agree although, I think sideboarding heavily favors most other decks. When your main win conditions are artifacts or enchantments, cards like pick your poison or annul can be brutal
@@user-fu7no1xu5b They can be but the point of 8rack is to quickly force your opponent into topdeck mode. Dumb cards like TOR non-withstanding.
Zoo is a fine matchup, tron is very very hard.
Very cool! We need a goblin version of this
That's a great idea!
yes please
Maybe without Stickers but with Lackeys instead?
i personally think an updated list of 8-rack with cards like grief, orcish bowmaster and such (personally like Vicious Rumors for HP swing, and discard for 1 mana) would be pretty good and would have a way better chance! But even with that kinda "outdated" list it's pretty good and better then expected
The only downside is that it gets destroyed by side boarding. A lot of these lists have the necessary artifact hate to stop bridge and rack in the side.
Vicious Rumors is a terrible card lol
@@Ninguin You get to update the sideboard of the rack deck too to deal with the current meta...
@@BludMun i know, it's just a card i personally like. In generally i like to play with funky cards, like my favorite card for commander is Rug of Smothering and i even put it in every deck that aims to reduce live totals, no matter how good it is 🤷♂️
@@BludMunwhat do you mean, it's a two-headed giant limited All-Star!
I know a few people pointed out the Metamorph copying The Rack, but after that did Jamin also have enough mana to Sylvan Scrying for the 2nd Boseiju, destroy Mutavault, and reset the board with the Oblivion Stone? Turn after unearth the Cityscape Leveler for the win
"At this point I would like to thank my mom" lol, I love you Thoralf ;D
I would also love to see regular Games of Magic with the best decks in the format. Altough I still love this video
We use to do exclusively top tier decks of various formats but we found that much fewer people watched those. Every other creator already does it on MTGO so we spice it up a little by playing crowd favourite decks :)
As an 8 Rack enjoyer I am both surprised and pleased to see this video today.
Carl's top decks so nutty he topped deck off his opponent
Man, game 1 domain drew so well.
The hats and costumes you guys have really are so fun. You really get to play at work and I love your videos for it.
This was great! So good to see 8-rack getting some love.
Ragavan single handedly won Carl game one, what a balanced card!
You can argue leyline is the winner here. Carl ended at 4 life and fetched with hardly any of his lands.
God, the start ... you guys have so much fun with this 😂
Thoralf mengu and jamin are the holy trinity for me I love watching them so much
What about CARL!!!?!?
SaffronOlive had a really interesting version of the 8rack deck that I would've loved to see you take inspiration from. It was essentially mono-black scam with the rack and shreiking affliction.
15:33 Not copying The Rack for the win is funny to me here. I would also miss this line.
😌It brings me so much joy to hear the name Murktide and “best modern decks” in the same sentence, seems us little delver wizards will still be kicken in modern no matter how many pick your poisons or bowmasters get printed. Thanks cardmarket for picking on Murktide even after the format warped away from it
Fantastic video would love to see more like it
I'm holding my breath for the custom Card video
It's already uploaded and should be out next week or the one after :)
That Jamin game was a nail biter. Well played gentlemen.
Loved the video, the smash styled challengers are very good (who made them?).
Side note I love the bridge though I ve never got my hands on it. The rack also reminds me my favorite Legacy deck Pox. Man that was so much fun, shame I couldnt afford the blackwhite version though.
Hey, glad to see more gameplay videos! The top videos are fun, but i felt like they were a bit too close to each other. Keep up the good work!
Loved the deck, crazy to build it as my first modern deck, but i dont know if i shoud wait for MH3
I never had any doubts.
Does anyone think the new tinybones could be played in this deck?
Let’s go pox! Think Jamin could’ve won if he copied the rack instead of the ring
Awesome! Can you do a waste not version of this pleeeeease?
That was a fun one!
I did not know that Ensnaring Bridge and Smallpox were in Modern. Those are some classic and painful cards!
You guys totally have to do a Canadian Highlander game sesh! Please!
"At this point i like to thanks my mom"...made my day😂😂😂 i love that toffel play a modern deck which doesnt Contain modern horizon cards and just New stuff, i liked modern before horizons 2 :) and i had played 8 rack for a while
i love all of carl's super over the top costume =]
Why does the Phyrexian Metamorph trigger the cast effect? does this work with creatures and clones too? i thought only comes into play is getting triggered from clones
The protection is an ETB trigger that only happens if you cast the card from your hand, not a cast trigger.
Because one ring is not a cast effect, it is an ETB effect with the conditional "if you cast it"
I still can't believe Leyline of the Guildpact is a real card.
Does hybrid mana not count against the jagantha companion requirement?
8rack got me into 60 card and modern after a year of only commander.
Couldn't jamin unearth the cityscape leveler and attack?
It's funny how 8-Rack could be a strong Decklist in an artisan version of modern.
Decklist
1 Dakmor Salvage
3 Davriel, Rogue Shadowmage
2 Fatal Push
4 Forsaken Miner
2 Geth's Verdict
3 Hopeless Nightmare
4 Inquisition of Kozilek
2 Long Goodbye
4 Mishra's Factory
4 Raven's Crime
4 Shrieking Affliction
4 Smallpox
16 Swamp
4 The Rack
3 Wrench Mind
SIDEBOARD:
2 Break the Ice
1 Darkblast
2 Duress
1 Glistening Deluge
2 Malicious Eclipse
2 Mind Rake
3 Relic of Progenitus
1 Sudden Edict
1 Worm Harvest
Other cards to consider, Cling to Dust and Whispers of Emrakul. Cling does give you life and card draw in a pinch. Whispers has a mini Hymn to Tourach and a Hymn if you got delirium.
Can you companion jegantha with leyline in the deck? I thought you couldn't cause of the hybrid green but maybe it doesn't count cause it's all different hybrid
You answered the question yourself
Jamin misplays
1. Discarding the Karn instead of The One Ring. upticking Karn on the pithing needle would've killed Thoralf
2. Like everyone says, Metamorph on The Rack would've killed Thoralf
3. Missed lethal on the last turn by unearthing Cityscape Leveler
0:39 I love you guys... 😂😂
14:16 the rack targets on etb, not on upkeep, right?
Can the rack target jamin despite having protection from everything because it doesn't actually say 'target' but instead 'choose a player'?
:D i still remember when i first got a 7th Edition 2 player starter deck and some boosters and ... i liked Black and the idea of discard. When i really started to play YGO i also played discard (like HEAVY discard).... when i started to play Final Fantasy TCG i ...played discard. Now i play Lorcana ...and i play discard and my random Magic decks (paper) are...discard xD
Wasn’t there a cityscape leveler on jamin’s yard in game 2 that he could’ve unearthed for lethal?
Game 1 Toralf didn't lose to Carl's deck, he lost to Ragavan.
Super lucky Ragavan pull on that first game.
8 Rack is my William Montgomery deck, because I ain’t eva gonna stop playing 8 rack.
Thank you for this. I’m a mono black player only. Have a necro tattoo on my hand. And it’s refreshing to see it highlighted. ❤
im pretty sure in the tron match when Thoralf's played the second rack it cant chose Jamin as an opponent as hes got pro everything and the rack says on play. correct me if im wrong
You're wrong but by just reading the card's actual text you would be correct. Oracle text doesn't target it just chooses which is allowed with protection
@@jacobisbell9388 ahhhh ty
Please downshift Shrieking Affliction and The Rack so I can Paup off with Pauper 8 rack! I love 8 rack, it was the first modern deck I ever built
Can you try pauper commander, i think it could be interesting
18:12 Updog!
Nice!
carl just totally forgot to put jegantha i. his hand game 1 lol didnt matter ultimately but still
why did jamin not use cityscape levelers graveyard ability to win?
Lets go Love 8 Rack
They missed 2 damage from thoughtseize in the last game
Everytime I see this video in my timeline the thumbnail changes. Not sure which I liked best though.
LET'S GO!
Thought they were going for metamorph copy rack line after game 1 also came down to stealing rack pieces against toralf.
Just imagine if you have Urza Saga. That 8 rack turbo fast
17:00 Jamin could unearth Cityscape Leveler for lethal
he could have also just copied the rack and won
The top decks in these are brutal.
Flashbacks to me ruining everyone's fun in 2013 with those Raven's Crimes :)
15:31 Jamin would have won the game if he'd had metamorph become a copy of The Rack.
Nice games
Thoralf's deck needs some Candy Trails
I've had plenty of success with an even more budget 8rack list. Most opponents are helpless when topdecking!
3 really good matches
Why still mutavault instead of mishras factory?
why didnt Jamin unearth the leveler and attack for 8 ?
Could Jamin have unearthed cityscape leveler for game? @ 16:30
idk, but he could have copied the rack and won with that
Didn’t Jamin also have a cityscape leveler in the graveyard?
Never underestimate a discard deck hehehehe
This video makes me want to play something besides commander.
I was expecting Carl to go "Who would cross the Bridge of Death must answer me these questions three, ere the other side he see." or something like that. Why didn't Thoralf use the drain mode in brutality to secure the win?
god a one or two of sheoldred in that deck would be brutal
that mono black and no joke
Why didn’t Jamin unearth the cityscape leveller?
Jamin could have cast sylvan scrying to tutor boseiju to destroy the mutavault
It's like WotC current design trend, everyone is in a new hat
Why is the tron sideboard in the main?
Jamin made a mistake and shuffled them in 😅
Did Jamin shuffle his entire sidebord into his Tron deck?
Tenacious underdog
Daulthi voudwalker
Dark cofidant
Knighthawk scavengerzra
Rankle
Lilianna
Inquistion
Thoughtseize
Fatal push
Murderous rider
Insatiable averice
Phyrexian areana