Whoppy Killed Phillup | Death explained
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- In this video, I examined the Death Registration Form of Whoppy, the man believed to be in the Jamaican saying "Whoppy Killed Phillup."
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Wow! Who knew Whoppy & Phillup were real people.
I thought Whoppy and Philup represented million years or old as dinosaurs 😮😮.
@empresspaula-mae I thought it was just a folklore
Every bed time story is also real they tell it like parable just like Jack and the Bean stalk Bredda Annancy and Tucomba Cinderella Harry Potter the Prince and the Pauper just to name a few all of them are real
Thanks for the history lesson on Whoppy King. I've always heard that name or the idiomatic expression "when Whoppy killed Phillup." I also watched your historical take on Delroy Wilson and found it quite informative. There is just one thing I find a bit distasteful in your narration though, and that is your categorization of Whoppy as " a dirty locks Rasta man." I take offence with that reference because it comes off as derogatory and scornful. You could've easily said: A man with dirty locks,, stained teeth and unkempt hair. My father, for the last 35 years of his life, was a Rastafarian who - through his work as an engineer - was a respectable productive member of the Jamaican society. I find that many Jamaicans do look down upon people with locks with a superiority complex. My father, like all true rastas, had a great ideology on life, religion, morality, deportment, and family values which were all entrenched in the teachings of His Majesty. Sir, if there is any way possible please edit out the word "Rasta" from your narration. I am not of the Rasta faith as my father was but I have great respect for the people who categorize themselves as Rastas, and Whoppy King does not belong in that sub-group as my father and the many thousand people throughout the world who class themselves as Rastas. Blessings
The description is specifically pointed to Whoppy King alone and does not refer to the entire Rastafarian community. (The Gleaner at the time described him as a Rasta).
@@JamaicanChapter Bredrin, in those times (the 1950's) Jamaica was under white, British rule and most things that were put out in the Gleaner and over Radiogram were controlled by a white ruling class. The narrative back then was skewed towards the British. Blacks (along with Chinese & Indians) were second class citizens. Rastafari which begun its movement in the 1930's (and given some strength by Leonard Howell, Joseph Hibbert, Archibald Dunkley & Marcus Garvey), was looked upon as the lowest of the lowest. Here now, in the 21st Century we should be careful how we talk about ourselves, our culture, and our sub-cultures. Whoppy King, with his locks etc., and criminal ways was obviously not a man of high moral character but we should be careful how we characterize him in reference to a group of people who have given yeoman service at the highest levels of society. Let's repudiate and relinquish old colonial terminologies that served only to put us down.
Well said!!👏
Well said, Jamaicans have a bad habit of calling anyone with locks Rasta. They need to stop call Rasta duty Rasta.
You are theorizing what happened
Whoopy King wasn't a rastaman, he was just a bearded-man.
Big up jamaica chapter nigel for those interested information and may god bless u and continue to the good works🙏🙏🙏
Thank you for the enlightment on that story of Whoppy. In the future, can you please tell us about Ryggin,Mospan and Goldstine. The were outlaws extraordinary in the fifties i believe. Looking forward with great expection. Thank you for your timely discourse on the Whoppy subject. Done with good clarity and explanation.
Because a man has dreadlocks doesn’t make him Rasta, true rastaman would not commit these crimes,be more careful in your choice of words
Thank you..
Oonu think Rasta a oonu Jesus ? Lol 😂😂😂
@markspringer716 u choose a white man to be ur god rasta choose a black king...Jesus the ship that brought you to Jamaica into slavery and now ur praising the same idol that they use to put us in slavery so stupid so dumb u all praising a white man for ir god...
Was about to enjoy the sort imagine identified a dread as a Rastaman, smh. It's really ignorance, Blessings for your standing against any slaughtering.
@markspringer716 Juvenile
Thank you for sharing this story with us.
Thanks for all this info , I always hear my mom talking about it!!
Very informative keep up the good work
Thanks for sharing the starting was sad but it make up in the end with the rope around di Rasta man
Thank you so much for this history lesson. Please could you please find Gregory Isaac'.Thank you
I still don't understand how the phrase Wholly kill Phillup came about. Who the heck was Phillup?
Sydney Garel's petname was supposedly Phillip.
Watch the video again.
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Apparently he is implying that Garel's nickname was Phillup.
That's the nickname of the same man he killed.
Good thing I found it
Cause my mom always said that term 😂, not many times
Sometimes 🗣️🤔❓
My bro keep doing things the want you're doing it, don't matter the good you do there's always someone who will see you and your work or works as being not enough or no good.
You who is telling the man to speak faster please leave the man alone stop listening to the channel if it doesn't suits you
Thank you for explaining about Woppy King
In this day and age we should not be referring to a person wearing locks whether for religious purposes or not as "dirty locks rasta man" poor choice of words.
I totally agree. Listening to many Jamaicans you can tell that rastafari is not looked upon favourably among many people. DJ artist Stitchie demonstrated that sentiment when he did his hit song "Natty Dread....and dem deh kind of living." If we patterned our "living" more off the Rastaman we wouldn't be having so much crap in Jamaica with all these murders, a shredded moral fibre, and same sex relationships.
Well said...it's about time we start understanding the legacy of colonialism on our people's minds and stop perpetuating the ignorance and prejudice brought about by our oppressors.
Well whoopy was one because he was a old murderer!
that was a dread my lord, not a rasta man, u dig??
Fi real, caz Rasta clean and take pride inna dem teet wid dem chew stick n cane.
Great work.
Thanks fir the history !!
Thanks for the Info I have been looking for info on Wholly, I as 7 years old Kingston Ja.❤
Whoppy king is what I was saying and in 1951 I was 7 years Old, Kingston Ja.
This is an accurate report from what I heard, now some might not like the truth but you are not here to sugarcoat the facts just to please any, feelings might be hurt but the truth is a solid rock, peace...
Thanks for that clarification
Thanks for info. The old timers always mention woppy king.
Be mindful of your audience and refrain from using outdated, stereotypical, derogatory language and description when referring to Rastas! As others have stated not everyone with locs are Rastas. Such language is extremely offensive and conjures up memories of the 'Blackheart Man' era as described in Bunny Wailer's song of that title. True Rastas are far from dirty!!
The description and references of said man was no different from a real Rasta in those days. He was reading the printed narrative. It's just a reminder of the raw uncensored scorn of the day. The narrator had no imput.
Just made this exact same comment but I think it’s the Christian blood in him he cannot help himself 😂
I believe he's referring to the way Jamaicans referenced to Rasta back then not now
Thanks for the story always heard the saying but never the backstory. Did subscribe bless up
I have been hearing the saying from Whoopy king kill Phillip from I'm a boy and its the first I know what its about lol
😂😂😂 me too
can you state how the name phillup came about
from i was a child i use to hear my grand parents talk about about whoppy king and Phillip up and the killing on the beach
I always heard about whoppy kill philipup from i was a child and thought it was a joke some one made up...but never knew it was a real thing....as my mother always said you live and learn.
Back in that anynody with even a beard was /could be mistaken for a Ras.. weird
Very great vlogger.
Also gave us an update on dat old time black Jamaican character name bag o wire it would be cool to here about him lol
I think my mother mentioned seeing Bag-O-Wire. I will have to ask her.
I honestly did not know this was a true story!
I thought this was a myth. I didn’t know it was for real.
Me too 😮
Inteteresting, i wonder where 'Phillup' came from since the victim's name was Sidney 🤔
But no statement on who the phillup he killed was, the death form was on woppy. I'm confused here that did i miss
I never knew that this was real omg!!
The Death penalty should still be considered
Who is phillup
So who the hell is Phillup?
Excellent choice of topic, however your delivery felt like " watching paint dry " but I'm sure you will be working on it 👍🏾
Speak in that manner I am interested to listen and understand
You need to talk about. Maxfield sunrise.Don aka Rodigan.
Who was Phillup.
Still dont know or what is Phillup.
So who was Phillup???
If he died 45 ,then at least early thirties at the time of his first murder
I don't hear nttn about phillup whoppy would not be popular without phillup 😢
Rasta man ?? fix up your talk
Mi fully agree wid de I. Nuff 1s in n 1s from a certain back ground always look down pon RASTA. Now as a full grown man , mi tek offence to your wording regarding RASTA suh please watch U mouth n how U address RASTA. This is now 2023 a nuh back then when deh powas dat be had deh uppa hand regarding how we think n speak. Nuh badda wid it seen .
Whoopy was just as he described him he was a old murderer
It's nice to hear about this but yu make it a lot longer yu drawing out your words
If the narrator is reading from an original script re the description of Whoppy, then maybe a caveat explaining this would help to avoid the reactions from viewers who find it offensive.
Good info but the first native GG was not Florizel Glasspole; it was Clifford Campbell. I was born in 1951 so yuh done know seh me no like fe hear dat me born from when Whappy kill Philip! Grrr!
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Thanks for pointing out the error. I have since edited it out.
i still dont hear who Pillup was? Cho!!
The focus of the video was on Whoppy King. But I agree that I should have gave details about Phillip (supposed petname of Sydney Garel). But the video was already made.
Pillup can be just about anyone
@@JamaicanChapterbut u should have mentioned that Garel was also called Phillup 🤷🏽♀️
Pay attention
Discrimination against Rasta have been going on from Day one, no wonder Joomayka people suspicion of Rasta is still existence even today expounded by church and state via the media
And fools like this ...
I know that the narrator wasn’t trying to be disrespectful to rastas. I know that very well. I just wanted to let people know the difference between rastas and dreads. The word dread as it relates to locks ,was originated in England by white men who knew very little about our faith. If you refer to a real authentic Rastafarian person as a dread you would be in for some serious problems. I for instance,I don’t entertain anyone calling me a dread as I’m not dreadful. Children used to be scared of a Rastaman because they were told that he is a black heart man and when you see one you should run or call the police but now the Eastman has come a long way to emerge as the most peaceful person on earth.
Wow
The fourth of April is soon many years since he died
Nigel, can you try to find Whoppy or Phillip family they must have family alive. 1952, was not that long .
Actually, I researched the families of them both but left such information out.
Some people call dem self Whoppy King…..disgusting
"From Whoppy King Phillup"
From Whoppy Kill Phillup
Mr mind your mouth talking about dirty Rasta man , you have fashion dread, you have Rasta, both are not the same, pls don’t try to disrespect Rasta , I don’t understand what your talking about wholly kill Phillup more than disrespecting RASTA, get your act together Mr
The description is of the specific man (Whoppy King) and not of the Rastafarian community.
Them a deven dread them just locsup
Yes but should differentiate because Rasta is not just anyone wearing locs. You could have gone about the story without using degrading comments about Rasta. Just don't sound good and not a good look either. I am not even rasta and I take offense. I even hate the fact that every and anyone just loc them hair without respect for the background and it's purpose. However u can't sensor man from fashion but at least u have control over your language. So just be mindful of the word and how it's used. The same u wouldn't want all black folks to be referred to as nigga or monkey.
I'm not a Rasta but I understand why some people don't like that Whoppy was labeled a Rastaman. He may have just been an unkempt savage. Since people didn't understand or like Rastafarians at the time, they probably just called him that.
Who is Phillop????
Sydney garrell was philop??
Yes, indeed
hey sir, hello...nuh badda wid di dirty Rasta business. Rasta nuh mixup inna bangarang! Mad man with dirty locs is all you had to say.
It is obvious that the description points to Whoppy King alone. It does not include the Rastafarian community.
No, it’s not obvious. Look how many people commented. The man was not a Rasta because he had locs, clean up your argument rather than be combative.
Dirty locks Rastaman???? Dats where I log off...........
The description is of Whoppy King only and does not refer to the entire Rastafarian community.
Stop it bout Rasta, just bbc Stop it !!
@@JamaicanChapter words have power....
Mi like hw nigel say dirty locks rasta man 😂
Every Rasta a original law breaker. Memba i man tell unno dat
I thought that was just a saying. Didn't knew it was actually real
Up to now I don’t know who phillup is
so is the person he killed name philop
Yes
How Phillup came from
Who is Phillup
He was Sydney Garel, a 19 years old clerk living in Kingston.
I didn't know this was a true story lol
Mate, you are treating us like we are dunce.☹
I would still like to know who phillup was
Indeed. Because the focus was on Whoppy, I avoided locating the death registration forms of the other persons.
I always wonder y peopl say when whappy kill fillow. Lol thts how it sound. I think only people in rural areas say tht phrase
I think the prase whoppy kill phillipup is lesson that folks must be all ways be careful wen going out on trips to av fun sumting like dat
Thank for the information cause these I’m hearing whappy and Philope I thought it was some make up stories
Is there a reason you doing the video so slow and depressing
Thanks for taking the time to give a feedback. I appreciate it. I don't see where it's slow and depressing though.
Dnt mix Rasta wid Mad Man!!!
So these were real people???
Yes, indeed, as is evidenced in the Gleaner and the death registration form I read.
Yes they were. The thing about Whoppy King is that he was Jamaica first badman along with Rygin
Where is Phillup grave
Interesting question. I might re-visit this story by going to there graves
While the historical narrative is quite informative and helpful to listeners & viewers, the narrator needs to let someone else tell these stories. His voice and presentation are the biggest turn off to such vital information. Why are you counting your words so much are you doing a summary and you want to get the exact words or what?Wasn't anyone there to advice him frankly and truthfully NOT to narrate the stories himself? In addition, you need to choose your words carefully when relating to certain people in the society. (e.g. the 'Rastaman', etc.). Great information but poor narration.
Remember the guy is Haitian
Two of the most famous names is jamaica
Dreadlocks that
Why you keep repeating yourself sir..?my god
Suppose it wasn’t him that killed Phillup? They could’ve sentenced an innocent man!
My granny used to say whoppy killed phillup because him did borrow a money from whoppy and when whoppy asked him for the money phillup beat whoppy. She said whoppy laywait phillup and chopped him up with a machete.
I am hoping that Whoppy King did not have any children because they would be evil like him
Whoppy King was living with his girlfriend, a woman called Ruby at 60 West Street, Kingston. I did not go to the area to find out if Whoppy King had children. If he did, I doubt that they became as him.
Whoppy, one extremely nasty and dangerous individual
u talk 2 slow, speed it up n stop boring up di video
NO EVERY NATTY IS A DREAD, NOT EVERY DREAD IS A RASTA, SOME OF THEM ARE BEAST U HAVE FI KNOW THEM PON DE STREET.😢
that is not where the phrase came from get your facts right I've seen this man many times at gold street sea side a dangerous looking man everyone avoid get your facts right
What are the facts sir, don't just spill all that without base
I am 71. From i was little little people used this saying "from woppy kill Pillop" probable meaning a long time. So which part yu si Whoppy these days?😅 an Phillop probable mean Philip in proper english.
This comment is specifically for my friend...Friend! Do you blame this killing on dancehall music too?
Don't involve rasta in your business just tell the story of the criminal he was not a rasta
Something off about this story
It’s not tht deep.. he probably reading of how the story went… come on guys are we not grown? Too not knw this ? We cuss over n worry about the wrong thing!!Keep up the good work
Fasi stop calll up rasta name ina u almshouse
Dis rasta bout dirty locks
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get your facts right or keep quiet