Jamaican-Irish Historical Bond Revealed
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- Discover the fascinating history behind the unbreakable connection between Ireland and Jamaica in today's video! Find out which major icon has strong blood ties to Ireland, and learn about the Irish ancestry in Jamaica. Don't miss out - like, subscribe, and join us on this incredible journey!
Im Jamaican and grew up in NYC and I had a good amount of Irish friends. I always marveled when I heard them talk because the way they enunciate their words are keenly similar to how Jamaicans speak.
@RichieB440444 I'm not Jamaican. But I always noticed speech similarities. Thought it was an amazing coincidence.
So true! I was amazed when i first got there.
Very interested
It’s no different than any oppressors accent we pick up because we had no choice. Nothing to be proud about.
@@zeeqq105that was the English. The Irish were sent to Jamaica as servants not as slavers
When I was in Cork Ireland, I was so surprised to hear the older people of Cork sounded just like Jamaicans! I though they were putting it on, but they were older people talking naturally so were not trying to put on the accent.
yes thats true, the cork accent is a very good example. Its a very stong accent and hard understand especially if you are from surrounding counties.
@@MotivationalDaSean the cork accent is more like welsh
I'm from Cork originally, yes we sing baby, we sing. The accent is wildly different depending on where in cork u are. But we all understand each other. See, since the Brits took our language, we had to speak in such a way that nobody knew the what fuk we were talking about 😉 sound familiar.
Lol these people are funny after carribeens as slaves they were sent ti Americana as slaves they never went back to Ireland
@@audreyroche9490 why would they? They had war with the English that lasted 800 years, Ireland was desperately poor always until the 1980's. The weather is crap. U can't exactly jump on a plane for a quick visit home.
As a Jamaican I’ve always called the Irish “our cousins in the north” 😆
Glad someone made a video explaining the history. ❤
Really 😂😂😂 that's amazing
@@MotivationalDaSean honestly 😂🥰
I’ve always noticed as well, (in my personal experience) our nations usually along well when mixed in social groups.
The Irish that came to Jamaica as slaves were black people.
You are a disgrace to your nation
Not very accurately
My family is Irish, Jamaican and Polish.
🇮🇪 ❤️ 🇯🇲 ❤️ 🇵🇱
Irish people are from Ireland. 😊
@blaqbutii Yes they are and French people are from France. What's your point?
And 100% American 🦜
What a weird mixture.
You’re hard to conquer 😂
Our existence has been very similar. I'll never forget that it used to be "no dogs, no blacks, no Irish". Much respect brother.
@@blackieblackmetal7218 That particular sign is almost certainly fake. There definitely were signs saying “no coloureds” before the introduction of the race discrimination laws of the 1960s. They have been well documented and recorded. But the “No blacks no dogs no Irish” sign only appeared in the 1980s.
It was mocked up by Irish activists for an event at an Irish festival in 1980s London. The Irish activists succeeded in creating one of the most successful urban legends of all time.
@@davidpryle3935 Mate. I'm American. "No blacks, no dogs, no Irish" signs were also common in the American Northeast after the American Revolutionary War as most of the established colonists were still English and disliked the Irish alongside all other non-English groups of people present at the time. It didn't stop in the UK my friend.
@@blackieblackmetal7218 Yes, I’m familiar with the “No Irish need apply” signs from 19th century America.
But the idea that there were “No blacks no dogs no Irish” signs in the remote American north west in the late 1700s is a joke, and shows just how far this made up nonsense by Irish activists in 1980s London has got out of hand.
@@bostonmike5981 I’m not English, but I know a fake when I see it, and I don’t like to see people blaggarded for something that’s fake. One of the reasons we know this sign is fake is it’s use of the American term “blacks”.
I’m not saying there weren’t discriminatory signs like “no coloureds”, but English people would not have used the term “blacks”.
@@davidpryle3935Can you read?
As a Jamaican man searching for identity in my early twenties,. I thought I was purely African, until I sat with my Jamaican grandmother who started telling me stories about her Irish grandmother. I suddenly realised that my genetic makeup was more than I was thought to believe.
Makes a lot of sense. My mother is Jamaican and I grew up in Canada and I have many Jamaican relatives. I never had a problem understanding my friends’ Irish parents. Now I see why.
Proud Jamaican 🇯🇲❤️🇯🇲 Canadian 🇨🇦❤️🇨🇦 here as well!
You people are out of your minds if you think this video is true.
@@taharka3897This entire video gives off a conspiratorial vibe, even though it might not be intended that way. I've heard about this 2:39 , but I'm uncertain if there's any credible evidence supporting it. Even if it were credible, how many descendants of these victims are there?
Your lying I can't understand a damn thing I'm fully Jamaican
@@taharka3897it from a white man they know everything except there messed up past
26% of Caribbean people have Irish ancestry…. The first wave of Irish immigrants occurred in the early 17th century, Irish emigrant principally sailors, servants, and merchants. Many of the poorer emigrants were displaced Gaelic-Irish and Anglo-Irish Catholics, as well as convicts who were indentured servants.
@@rasempress9724 Irie Irie the Jamaican greeting is a Celtic Goddess, and Celtic greeting, there is a link, but this video stops short of the rest of the story which is the original Irish were Dark skinned, some called them the black celts. Black Europeans were kicked off by papal decree. There are whole towns in Ireland and the UK named after black people.. Most Irish were taken to Barbados by Cromwell they were called the Red Legs (Rihanna,s parents) thanks for your time 😁 Bless Uuup
They came after the slave revolution they helped with nothing we share nothing they are not apart of the Jamaican people kick rocks
Many Irish were enslaved by the English.
Other than the majority west African in me, my other sides are Scottish and Chinese.
@@dancarrington8678
Dude, Rihanna dad is a
Biracial(black and white) man.
I'm from Ireland and my surname is McNamara. So excited to discover that I have Jamaican heritage.
.Thank you so much. Can't wait to visit Jamaica and meet my relatives!
You are so welcome
I'm Irish and I remember as a kid myself and Dad were watching TV. A Jamaican person was speaking and I was confused. I asked my Dad if she was Irish. These was just something I was picking up in her accent.
My mum is Irish and my dad is Jamaican
Great mix
Gross
@@mrmoney2249fascist.
How similar are their speaking partners?
My phone was listening....I literally told someone about this the other day, and here it is. 🇯🇲
Phones listen to all, and welcome to my channel ✌️
That's because of keyword vocabulary, trigger the software in the device!
I’m 29yo and half jamaican and i’m just learning about this. I never connected the accents sounding similar until now, now I can’t unhear it my mind is blown
I lived in Cork between 2016 to 2018, attended University College Cork (UCC). What amazing country and people!!! I loved every bit, including every daily raindrop!😍 Thank you for sharing!!!!
That's one thing everyone who visits Ireland says is the RAIN so much rain 🤣🤣🤣
In my experience I found that in certain parts of Jamaica the African and Irish ancestry is strong other parts of the island African ,British and Scottish ancestry is strong. Also German. The surname Chin indicates Chinese mixed ancestry not forgetting the indigenous Arawak Indians and African mix .I guess that’s where the Jamaican Coat of Arms motto explains this mix of ancestry “ Out of Many One People ”. My own personal ancestry according to my family members are The Congo , Ghana , Cuba, Scotland Syria and Jewish. 😂😂🇯🇲.
I love the Irish accent.☘️ Love the video❤
That motto is a sham because the black people are always at the bottom.
I am Irish by virtue of my mother’s birth and I am Irish in my heart through osmosis. I also have been very psychically connected to Jamaica. I was drawn there and spent about a year there, and had some very powers experiences while living there. As long as 55 years ago, back in the day when we were smoking cow horn bongs outside in the dark of night, I felt there was a strong similarity and connection between the two countries, small islands at opposite ends of the North Atlantic, both with strong connections to higher planes of existence and both with strong, defiant citizens.
I'm the son of immigrant parents from Barbados and Antigua. I know there is some Irish on the Bajan side, but I know my Antiguan family history deeper. My great great grandmother was forced to leave Ireland at 15 with her husband, sister, and infant child. Her husband was killed on the ship, and her and her sister were dropped off in Antigua. My family in England did DNA testing and met that side of the family. My parents immigrated to the USA. I am black American via Ireland......
Wow, that's an amazing story thank you for sharing with me I appreciate it 🙏
Stop talking shit (want to be whjte person.(do.a dna test
As a former Caribbean History teacher from Jamaica, I thank you wholeheartedly for producing this very balanced history that is WELL NEEDED to quell the rising racism and ignorance that is fuelling it in my beloved country. One love, from Jamaica. to Ireland. We are one under God.
One love indeed! If only ignorance was a currency, we could pay it off with all the history lessons we’re sharing!
If there is any similarity in how we speak is because the Irish was generally the foreman on the plantation and beaten into us their dialect and beat out of us our African dialect
Exactly other the British owners were absent leaving the Irish overseers to manage the Plantations, some of them got Rich enough to open thier own plantations that's why we have surnames like o'connor, o'gilvie
wouldn’t say beat into you the irish dialect and beat out of you the African dialect. The africans slaves obviously took a blend of the british, Irish and and their own way of speaking english. after all, Africa didn’t have its own english dialect as english is not an african language.
@@anfieldreds_1892 , literally tortured it into us. On the plantation, concentration camps, African languages were illegal for Africans to speak. Some ppl are always trying to romanticize how African Ppl, who had nothing to do with europeans, came to speak european languages, came to practice christianity etc.,
At that time the Irish didn't even speak English. The idea of a cohort of Irish foremen thrashing Irish pronuncating into African slaves is ridiculous. Any similarity between Irish and Jamican is just coincidence
@@thurmanmerman2720 Didn't the British conquer Ireland in the 12 century. Way before they even came to the West Indies what language were the Irish speaking during that time
The people of the Jamaica/Barbados are the original inhabitants of the Ireland/Scotland kicked out by Oliver Cromwell in the 16h century. The British told us we were going to the West Indies, The West Indies was actually Virgina/Carolina US, Barbados and Jamaica next, West Indies is actually the name of Virgina/Carolinas . After the Jacobite Rebellion we were sent to the islands as indentured servants, to work with the Natives.
the natives by that time were more or less wiped out. You mean the African slaves?
What do you mean original? Please dont try steal our history. Our gaelic celtic people have been around for thousands of years. Mixed with norsemen, vikings after the scandanavians pillaged and invaded our shores a 1000 years ago. Many of us now have norse and viking and celtic geneology. More recently a lot more immigration. I love Jamaica and its people with all my heart but please dont try twist our history. We have suffered a lot and its amazing our close ties. We should celebrate this. Go raibh maith agat.❤
Dna shows black carribean are of west and central africa decended from these fantastic powerfull ethnic groups(the same people you see in mma and boxing
A part of this we don’t talk about is the native Caribs. The Irish who arrived in Montserrat from neighbouring st kitts and Virginia were under constant threat of attacks from the natives in the early day of the colony up until the early 1690s
I’m born in Jamaica have family in Ireland under the name Wellington interesting always love Irish movies and will find myself breaking into an Irish accent out of nowhere. Very interesting video.
I am glad you enjoyed it ☺️
Love the comments here. History might have beat us down. But the future is full of love and hope for all Trans-Atlantic cousins ❤️ 🇯🇲 ❤️ 🇮🇪 ❤️ 2 coolest nations in the world
My family have our Irish surname and we still have the grave of the original Irish ancestor in our church cemetery and his sibling moved to Portland parish. Trelawny and Portland parish are the only place on the island where people have that surname. So anyone with our surnames are direct descendants of the brothers that came to Jamaica.
I'm also irish but I also know from experience in nyc that Jamaicans absolutely recognize the cultural connections
A French Canada friend introduced me to an Irish writer 🎉named Marve Binchy. The characters in her books behaved just like Jamaicans . (I'm Jamaican living in Toronto)Thanks for the history lesson.🎉❤😊
Meave Binchy...from my home town.
There is a strong link between the Irish and Jamaican, and some info is right. However the information about children is incorrect. Marcus Garvey has no Irish ancestry. Bob Marley has no Irish ancestry either, he is half English. Irish were not slaves.... Please watch the 2.20 hrs documentary we made about the Irish and Jamaicans on my channel, where I interviewed the irish hiatorian and many other people, including Irish in Jamaica and Jamaicans in Ireland. Our film is called "Ireland and Jamaica, Documentary" Out of Many, One People.
The Irish that came to Jamaica as slaves were black people.
Unfortunately your video is less accurate then this video.. The Irish where taken to Barbados as slaves both black and white Irish were taken as prisoners of war by Oliver Cromwell.. The white irish slaves were called the Red Legs.. watch ruclips.net/video/Tv--0FhkeFE/видео.htmlsi=Fa-W70WRZo_rGLnb
@@dancarrington8678 never heard of white Irish being slaves but black Irish were slaves and some of them were taken to Jamaica and Montserrat (black Irish slaves) . The black people of Montserrat still celebrate st Patrick day to this day. You can't listen to every RUclipsr, some of them don't know what they are talking about.
@@dancarrington8678 I don't think you actually watched my video, because i DO talk about the Irish who were taken as prisoners of war by Oliver Cromwell. There were no black Irish though and the Irish were never treated in the same way as black people. It's a hoax developed much much later by various contemporary authors. How do I know? Well, I actually read the original records from the 17th century in the British Archive. If you want to see some online, here is the document that quotes all the records from the 17th-18th century on the topic:
www.jstor.org/stable/2937974
You can also look at the original records in the British Archive.
If you want to prove that Irish were black and used as slaves, please provide the link to the original 17th century documents. By the way, yes, there were black people in Europe in the 17th century, but they were not Irish, they were either Africans who came via Spain or enslaved Africans who were brought to Ireland by the British.
@@sweetsoursop1129Your absolutely RIGHT ❤ Unfortunately the histroy telling is a bit racist and denies dark skinned contributions to Europe, it always starts with black slavery and never admits to dark skin black Kings in power in Europe or places named after black people in ireland and the uk and that there is such a thing as indigenous dark skin Europeans and lastly, this narrow histroy telling never admits to white slavery.. They were also taken to the new world as slaves prisoners of war mainly. This white washing of history is because of the renaissance. If u want to learn more here is a 5 min video about the red legs of Barbados the irish government has admitted they exist and has allowed visa free travel for Barbadians to visit ireland and re connect. Bless ruclips.net/video/u8AePRqnWaM/видео.htmlsi=gbi53l_L3wiuKvwL
Am from Grenada and my 3vtimes great grandfather was Irish from northern Ireland
Thanks for the history however the balance between music and narrative needs to be adjusted. Music relatively too loud in the first half.
My apolagies next time it will fixed
After the Jacobite rebellion, Oliver Cromwell shipped alot of the Black Irish off to the Caribbean islands, to work on the plantations. Sean, check out the video of the Montserrat Irish. They are brown skinned, with reddish brownish hair.
Book called Irish Emmigration 17th and 18th centuries Thomas Addis Emmet written 1899
Explains the term black Irish.
Also
“Whence the black Irish of Jamaica”
By Joseph J Williams sj
They were not black Irish. We didn't have any black Irish then. Black Irish refers to white Irish people with black hair and dark brown/black eyes but pale skin. Most of us have lighter hair and blue eyes.
@@loots9821 not what is written down as history, we’re are your sources?
@@loots9821 plenty of ship logs with complexion of Irish men as dark, black, ruddy, etc…
@@nickolas6664 that doesn't make them black. Colin Farrell would have been called black Irish. As in dark, swarthy. This is Americans trying to change history. I'm Irish, I have lived in Ireland all my life, I said in a previous comment we didn't see black people until the 1970's. Phil Lynnott, famous half black Irish musician. His mother white Irish, father black, living in UK. Not Irish. People my age remember seeing their first black person in Ireland because it was so rare. They were usually medical students, nurses or nuns from Africa. We remember the first half black family (Irish mother, black UK father) moving into the area. I live in Dublin, I know what I'm talking about. There were NO native black Irish back then.
I didn't learn this until I became an adult. Coming from a biracial family and growing up with friends of different races, we lived like brothers and sisters and still communicate to this day. It was very sad to see that it wasn't the same when I moved to Europe, where society seemed more divided. This division appears to be spreading to other countries as well.
Not a division, WHITE HEGEMONY, WHITES HAVE NEVER CONSIDERED BLACKS EQUAL
My parents are Jamaican, I've always thought the way Jamaicans talk sounds similar to the way Irish talk, I've always had friends that who's parents are from Ireland or Scotland
It is..they influenced our patois….e.g. ‘wedda’ for “ weather” etc
@@rasempress9724no it's not your wrong sounds like it but they have nothing to do with my language did you ever research this
Jamaican patwah/Jamaican creole is mixed with West Africans, Europeans and Taino languages, but it's more of the African Languages.
@@rasempress9724 You're not gonna be able to understand the Irish language, but only the accent.
@bfoster417
You understand their accents, but you're not going to understand their language.
Yup. Our Patois is Irish and Scottish. I love it X)
No, it's not
@@blackallday what is it then. Calm down bro
@@vito_reactsJamaican patwah/Jamaican creole is mixed with West Africans, Europeans and Taino languages, but it's more of the African Languages.
@@maryjs4878patois is actually broken English .. it’s literally English… Africans speak different languages French, broken French, sample, Arab .. patois is literally broken English … in simple words slang in a way
@@annacherish5734 Which patois are you calling broken English?
What I know, is that Jamaican Patwah/Jamaican Creole isn't a broken English, it's a language, that is mixed With African languages, European languages and Taino languages.
I like this guy because he puts his references in to back up what he’s saying
Proud Jamaican 🇯🇲❤️🇨🇦 Canadian here - learned something new today! Thank you!
What did you learn?
There is also a little village up in the mountain called Ruthven above the Appleton Sugar factory in St Elizabeth near another village called Aberdeen. That had a high percentage of light skinned blue eyed people with the most common surnames of Thompson, McTaggart and Mundy. I thought they were Scottish descendants, but they could have been Irish.
Those names are Scottish.
I think this thing clearly overstates the influence of the Irish in Jamaica. Many oversimplifications and falsehoods were stated. The Irish were never slaves in Jamaica. They came under some form of servitude but were not slaves a were the Africans. African males never impregnated Irish women as the thing suggested. it was the White males who impregnated African women. The presence of Irish surnames in Jamaica suggest as imposition of general British names on African enslaved people. It was the common practice of enslavers to give their surnames to the enslaved Africans as a sign of ownership in a similar way women take on their husbands names. Africans with Irish surnames does not mean Irish ancestry, but rather African being enslaved by the Irish. African surnames were discouraged and that accounts for their absence in Jamaica today/. The Irish too were enslavers of Africans. Many Irish who came to Jamaica in the early years died of diseases, ran away and joined pirates or migrated to North America. Their numbers were always small and even after slavery ended the Irish were recruited to Jamaica to help whiten the population. They along with Germans. This failed as many left and the number of African Jamaicans increased. They failed to get enough to substantially alter the racial composition of the population which continues to present day. While it is true there are many Irish influences in Jamaica including many places which have names from Ireland including a place called Irish Town, but they are all seen as white, colonial, British influences and impositions
Cromwell persecuted the irish. They WERE effectively slaves when they arrived into the Caribbean.
Correct 150percent ! Truth should be clear .as what's being said .ay be misleading.i thought so too..th Irish men where made to mate with African women and not the other way round .also it's not even as fair as its made to sound.also thy were never slaves as Africans were .
that's correct, as its always the granddads and great granddads that are Irish or Scots and the moms black in my family. My family is living proof.
Jamaican here, and I agree with this 🇯🇲
The Irish were slaves and they were black people.
I am of Irish decent and been to Ireland Many times and grew up in South London.years I ago I was told by someone at a wedding in Ireland the Irish are the Jamaicans of Europe with their laid back attitude and friendly culture 😂
I am Jamaican and everyone in my family has (North and South) African genes for sure, its visually obvious however, both my grandfather and great grandfather on my mom's side were Irish, living in Jamaica. And my husband's grandmother was also the descendant of two Scots living in Jamaica. My family on my dad's side include Jews and East Asians (Chinese and Malaysians) My family looks so racially ambiguous, we look like a United Colors of Bennetton ad. but even more blended. And we grew up very Catholic. Derry Girls school scenes are so nostalgic to me.
St. Ann has lots of folks of Irish descent. Miss Ninny of Clarksonville. My great grand of Irish descent Louisa Rodney
My whole family is from Jamaica, my last name “Mullings” is supposedly Irish, always wonder what the connection was but this makes sense. Great job on the video topic bro
Thank you very much I appreciate that you enjoyed it, I am going to be doing more topics like this stay tuned🇯🇲✌️
@@MotivationalDaSean That's dope bro, keep it up. If you're ever looking for beats or background music for your content link me
There's a Scottish connection too, check it out.
Probably derives from the name mullan. Surnames change over time. My own would have originally been de burgh then de burgo now it's Burke.
Great lesson. Thank you for enlightening me. I would recommend if you could lower the music just a little b/c it was hard to hear your voice at certain points in the video. Once again great lesson, love the visuals. Could you do one on the Chinese explorers who migrated and now live in Jamaica 🇯🇲?
I will have a research into that and see what I can do, thank you for the recommendation
Im a McPherson...we are Jamaican blood, my DNA does say Irish Scott and Scandinavian in the lower signal digits percentage
Represent same 😊
I was born in Jamaica with ancestry to the Ui Neill of Ireland.
If you visit South East St. Elizabeth and some small towns of the parish - there are huge remanence or massive sample size of people of European ancestry with blue eyes and the hue...
Lovely video. There was a lot of black people who where born and grew in Ireland as well. It has been found that there was and is a large population of black people. So I would say that both Irish and Black people shared their ways of living. But there are many similar things between the two group. Thank you for the video
Greet information! ❤🇯🇲🇮🇪
2:24 Judging from the green white and orange tartan pattern of that lady's skirt, I'm pretty sure that's a picture from Montserrat, aka the Emerald Isle of the Caribbean. The Harp of Erin is on their flag, and Saint Patrick's Day is a big deal there.
My grandmothers family on mothers side was Irish…. I understand Irish accent as it seems very close to patois 🇯🇲🌺.
I’m Jamaican 🇯🇲 but my names Padmore Nevin been told it’s a Irish ☘️ name always felt a close connection to Ireland 🇮🇪..100%%
You're surname is Nevin because probably you ancestors slaver/owner was someone called Nevin
The Irish that came to Jamaica as slaves were black people
@@CaptainChaos-1the Irish that came to Jamaica as slaves were black people
@@CaptainChaos-1 makes sense
The British where sending the Irish abroad for forced labour since 1650 and Australia was a prison if you rebelled
My surname is O’Brian, my grandfathers surname is Duncan
I was told that my mother side of the family can trace their name 'Campbell ' to one of 3 brothers, that's Irish that's named Campbell
Why are you bragging about that? Have you FORGOTTEN how it GOT there?
@jackjonas1699 you see when your stuck in pain that's generation's before your birth and have no interest in learning about history. Fcuk that why did you watch this, I watched because I asked my uncle and he told me about where my blood line came from and that was from his father my grandfather and it was just shocking to know that it was true and my father side of the family is also mix with white blood idk where it came from I'll know n I can teach my sons about my family history.
P s if there are brown skin people in your family one of your great grandmother's or both got 🍇 or fcuk by a white man or men what your gonna do about that seat and cry you poor little bby. Grow the fk up.
Campbell is a Scottish surname.
@gerardnfarrell question didn't you watch the video to c that the name was obviously Scottish
@@realname1743 Scottish name ,probably slave masters
Delighted to have learnt this a few years ago 👍 Great video. Keep it up. ***spelling*** Alexander Bustamante
I found out the same thing with Guyana and I have Jamaican German family members I found out I got Irish ancestry in me from my Guyanese side all of South America is full of European ancestry from all over
@@vonnie6390 it's kinda crazy to see how many people are closely tied to Ireland
I love how you said one is Jamaican or isn’t !!! It’s just that plain and simple I’ve never seen a Chinese Jamaican and thought he was Chinese
Irish Chinese and Indian or any other white person was never chatter slaves in Jamaica. They served in servitude hence they were able to maintain their name, culture and religion. Don’t mix the two together.🇯🇲
Sorry, but they were not allowed to keep their religion or their culture. Relax, we are not looking for reparations, so don't worry, we won't take from the pot. We, as a people, are looking to the future and building ourselves up on our own two feet. Thank you.
😊
My Grandma mother was half Irish, her surname was Mundy her father was Irish
Good effort.
Others have pointed out some anomalies. Maybe youbcan add some text comments to the video.
However, I just wanted to point out I found the background music a bit too loud and a bit of a distraction - not sure if you can edit that lower but it really took away from the content.
Well done getting it all out there though 👍🏾
@@rsodeyi my apologies I will make sure the next video music is at an acceptable volume
My mother’s maiden name is Clark. I’m happy to hear that the first Prime Minister of Jamaica’s real last name was Clark. Perhaps we are related.
Marcus Garvey was born in St. Christopher in the village of Sandy Point. He returned to visit just once.
The Irish that came to Jamaica as slaves were black people.
Wow. Just an observation, Never saw this amount of acceptance from Jamaican to the most obvious similarities which they have / the African one. Although - I apologise on behalf of many Jamaicans who proudly embrace their African root. But I am rather surprised and I wonder if we change the title of the video to “Why Jamaican are soo similar to African” I wonder if the comment will be the same.
I see your purpose in life is to stir up controversy 👀
@@ChiqChiq-m3h I would be a waste of human kind, if my sole purpose in life was to create controversy. I made an observation, a fair observation indeed. I did not force anyone to engage in an opposing opinion. It might require some confidence and reasoning to address this. It feels like when one talk about racism to white people. It becomes a rather uncomfortable subject.
@@eliseoellis3863why single them white people out solely, if they disappeared tomorrow it will be another group that discussion wouldn't happen.
My parents are Jamaican and I do hear slight similarities in the accent, but there's Scottish influence too. The Jamaican flag was designed from the Scottish flag, with the colors of the Asanti tribe in Ghana where lots of the slaves came from. 🏴🇯🇲 Isn't the Mac or Mc last name Scottish? Anyways, this video was interesting, thanks for sharing.
Thank you for watching it I appreciate it 😁
That is St Andrew’s cross on the flag, patron saint of Scotland, Mac and Mc are Gaelic meaning son or grandson and are used in both countries along with the newer prefix O. The Romans referred to the Irish as Scotti, this Irish tribe conquered the Picts of Alba hence the name Scotland.
One love ❤️ from Jamaica 🇯🇲
The most popular surname in Jamaica is Williamson, well according to my 2012 edition of the Jamaican Yellow Pages! (All I did was count the pages that contained that name.)
Its could also mean that the Williamsons make up a large part of Jamaica's middle classes, since one had to be reasonably well off to own a fixed line phone and have a permanent address in Jamaica.
Wow I learned something new! My father's surname is Collins so I feel special now lol
My family is Clare has links to Ireland by way of Richard de Clare (Strong Bow). We say tree not three like the Irish. We have a Irish Town and potatoes are called Irish in Jamaica. Island nations both are very green.
I have ancestors from Cork.
Bob Marley? His grandparents were English, not irish.
I agree we don't need to make false claims
I thought his European side was dutch
But, in the American South, the transported Irish became overseers and "paddy rollers," highway cops who would arrest blacks that couldn't show that they had permission to be off the plantation.
Some of them became overseers because that was probably the only work going. I'm not excusing it it's disgusting and they shouldn't have taken the work.
My last name is Cameron and apparently part of my admixture is from Scotland
Campbell is a big one too
I didn’t know all this but I love the Irish and I want to see them victorious is all ways
Great video, but why do you have a four leafed clover rather than a shamrock ☘️
My reasoning is more personal than anything else, I look at the clover as being a symbol of positivity, rarety and luck. Positivity because that's me in a nut shell, rarety because as humans we are extremely unique and different from all other humans and luck because I am a very lucky person. ✌️🇯🇲
Janey Mac!!! I didn't expect a response and would never have expected such a profound response. I often see four leafed clovers on Irish related images and I think "Pfft!! Americans 🙄!!!" (as in USA people or graphic artists) who don't know the difference between 🍀 and ☘️. Thank you for showing me an alternative view (but I don't think I'll change 😂☘️🇮🇪☘️)
Read the book called from “Whence the black Irish of Jamaica”
Have to replay this one, as I'm Jamaican; Yeah Man!
Thank you for this history lesson.
I am from Clonmel in County Tipperary in 1650 Oliver the Bolloxs Cromwell tried to take the Town. It was the siege of Clonmel it was the only battle and the biggest loss of life on his side with between 1500 to 2500 Troops. He did take the town and I think he took some prisoners and sent them to Jamaica as there is a Clonmel in Jamaica Clonmel (Irish: Cluain Meala, meaning 'honey meadow') is the county town and largest settlement of County Tipperary, Ireland. The town is noted in Irish history for its resistance to the Cromwellian army which sacked the towns of Drogheda and Wexford. With the exception of the townland of Suir Island, most of the borough is situated in the civil parish of "St Mary's" which is part of the ancient barony of Iffa and Offa East. That is why there is Clonmel in Jamaica.
Irish and Scottish and English too.
their is a book too hell or barbados its very sad but very interesting.
god bless ireland , jamaica and both its people
Edit the background music down a notch but nice video.
Thanks for the tip
@@MotivationalDaSean you’re welcome!
@@MotivationalDaSeanNice content,but music is way too loud
musics a bit loud bro, good video altogether tho 👍
When Irish people and my Jamaican family and Bahamas say The ting is 😂 I love it!
😆😆😆 yeah we say some mad tings hahahaha
@@MotivationalDaSean 😂🤣
Thanks for sharing 😊
I hope you enjoyed the video
A lot of Jamaicans have traditional Irish first names as well. I’ve met a black Jamaican with the name Siobhan. Ive met Jamaicans with the names Patrick, kevin, Connor and even O’Neil
I love the name Siobhan, it is a very Irish name🇯🇲😂
Thank you. “No further questions your honor”.
Suggestion: please reduce the volume of the background music. Very hard to hear anything youre saying over the music when playing the video at speed.
They really didn't think much of the Irish if they willingly allowed mixing.
The didn't they only outlawed the practice of mixing because the east India trading company was losing profits and the EITC was more powerful than the British state.
Although the Irish and the Africans did mix, the cross breeding of the slaves was an imposition.The plantation owners treated them as livestock. Black slaves were very expensive because of their resistance to tropical diseases and the hot sun. The Irish were worth a tenth of the price. Some slave owners decided they could breed hybrid slaves and save a lot of money. The practice was discontinued by law because the Atlantic slave traders successfully objected to it as unfair competition.
The music’s way too loud, can’t hear you talking. Interesting video though
I always found them to be similar in ways but this helped to confirm that, great video tho bro
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Fascinating stuff , but could you turn the background music down a bit so I can hear what you're saying properly.
My apologies for the music being too loud, if you subscribe you will see the next video and the audio is much better.
Cornbeef and cabbage...a Jamaican dish?
No one in Ireland actually eats that
@@horatiotodd8723speak for yourself my parents love corned beef and we certainly eat cabbage.
Cornbeef and cabbage is the US variation of bacon and cabbage.
My grandma is half Irish, half German👊🏾
Sound more Scottish than just Irish
What would Kamala Harris’ dad Donald Harris be considered? He is said to to have Indian , Irish and african ancestry. We hear people say he’s Jamaican but Jamaican is nationality. Just curious what his Race & Ethnicity is?
My last name is Reynolds, a common Irish last name in Jamaica. However, seven years ago I did some research on my ancestry, genealogy DNA - it shows that I'm 12% English, no Irish ancestry. Although my grandfather looked mixed, my mom is fair skin - at no time do I associate being Irish or of European ancestry. I look like I am of African ancestry and that's how I see myself, an African. History is what it is, we cannot change it.
It wasn't just the Irish, large numbers of Scottish highlanders were sold into slavery by the English after Culloden and the failed Jacobite rebellion in the early 1700's (and the nice English wonder why they're so disliked). In addition there were the clearings (Highland Clearances/ethnic cleansing). A lot of those cleared were sent to the Carribean hence the large number of Highland names that are common there: Macdonald, Stewart, etc. etc. and in addition many were sent as indentured servant's (basically another name for slaves) to what are now the 'Southern States' of the US. This is why the Jamaican flag and the flag of the Confererate states are both based on the Scottish Saltire (St. Andrew's Cross) and a few words of Scots Gaelic have passed into US English. But, back to the Irish thing - if you go back far enough the Scots and Irish were originally one people. The Irish language and Scots Gaelic are modern branches of one original tongue.
Totally agree. Gaelic Scots and Irish were treated equally badly by tye English and lowland Scots
@@andyallan2909 Big big difference between indentured servitude and slavery. Many poor English people were indentured servants, as were other Europeans. It was the only way for poor people to get to the new world.
If Jamaica were like Ireland it wouldn't be so dangerous
Dangerous? Have you been there?seems like you haven’t
This is misleading, the Irish 'slaves' were indentured which is different to slavery from Africa
A Gold Plated version of slavery. The nuance of difference wasn't too obvious to those forced to leave.
Right. I'm sitting here like when?!🤨 All indentured people had a choice of whether or not to come, freedom that was never allowed to African slaves & were paid. Using the term slave here is extremely misleading.
@@Moneystayswithme Do you think they had any choice in the matter. They couldn't read or write and didn't understand English! Irish was their language for the most part. Any signed agreement was a dog leaf.
Bob Marleys' father did not have Irish heritage. He was of English heritage. Bob has no known Irish heritage
why are you using maps of Ireland with six counties missing?
Ok, so you’re conflating having irish last names with having “ancestry”. I get it for Bob Marley. He had a white parent. I’ve heard this said before about Marcus Garvey and I never understand why because both of his parents were Black People. Now, if you’re talking about the result of women being violated during slavery, I don’t know any Black Person from anywhere who goes around bragging about the ancestry of an enslaver who forced himself on an enslaved woman or girl-child. And none of us think of ourselves as “irish” because our African names were erased and irish names were forced on us during slavery either.
Similarities in how Jamaican english sounds? Another product of genocide. Whoever you learned english from, there has to be some similarity in sound. That’s just common sense, but this is all a product of genocide, not any kind of notion of “cultural exchange” or “cultural melting pot” or anything to be celebrated. The english language is a scar on our tongues. The last names are like the serial numbers tattooed on jewish people in auschwitz during the holocaust.
@@ahfimiwonawun “the English language is a scar on our tongues.”…lol…but , obviously , not on ur writing, given ur flowing response….sigh….a discussion on our Island’s linguistic history is just that…a discussion….btw, black women r STILL BEING VIOLATED…this time, BLACK MEN R THE CULPRITS…do u think that their being English speakers is the causation…
you missed the point. what you said may be true but more than one thing can be true. example some of the way Jamaicans speak and inflect their words are like the Irish
@@anfieldreds_1892, everything I said is true. And as I said, there has to be similarities in how someone speaks with whoever they learn a language from. It’s common sense. How do you learn a language and sound COMPLETELY different from who you learned it from, especially in a situation where your first/ original language is destroyed? In a normal situation, ppl who speak another language who then, of their own free will, learn another language will sound similar to whoever they learned it from, while retaining certain effects on the new second language from their first. It’s amazing that in our case, we don’t sound COMPLETELY irish. But, as I said, that isn’t something we celebrate for more reasons than just one. At least not the mentally well among us. May as well make a video entitled “why are christians and Jamaicans so similar”. You’d literally get the same answer.