Maxed Out! Can the New, 500 Horsepower 2023 Ford F-450 Super Duty Diesel ACTUALLY Tow 40,000 Pounds?
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how ironic you have this advertisement for this......there will be some that need it towing 20T with an 8,000 aluminum truck.
Where is this in Michigan? Looks like a gorgeous area.
Will never use such obvious ambulance chasers.
This is ford michigan proving grounds. Located near Romeo Michigan.
You guys were there the other day for the superduty event. I work midnights so i didn't have much involvement.
Can't wait to finance this truck for 15 years and daily drive it to work and back 😂
*Edit* for all the people I triggered, I was just being sarcastic with my comment
Some wannabe country singer will do it
You would have to use it as a daily driver. After financing it you wouldn't be able to afford another vehicle to be used as a daily driver. 😂
A lot of these are sold to tow businesses with tax benefits.
What's the cost for this truck, that will last maybe a year pulling loads like that!
15 years? for a $62,000 truck? It's a 950 a month note for 72 months if you put zero money down. If the price of this truck puts you off you don't need it. This is for guys running hotshot, or moving job site equipment. In that situation it's making you money
A Class 8 semi grossing 80,000 lbs has a 20,000-pound truck and 60,000-pound trailer. So the trailer is 3 times the weight of the truck. Towing a 40,000-pound trailer with an 8000-pound F450 has a 5:1 trailer to truck weight ratio. I'd get a bigger truck to handle that much weight to avoid being pushed all over the road by the trailer. Out in the real world there is more to towing than just weight. There is also trailer size. The demonstrator trailer that Ford had was weighted with dense material, allowing the frontal area of the trailer to be smaller than the truck. Not everybody hauls steel. If you're towing something like an intermodal shipping container that has multiple times the frontal area of the truck the powertrain will be working hard all the time, even on flat ground. And in crosswinds the trailer will push the back of the truck around badly.
This truck does seem light compared to what it's towing. In the real word, towing that much weight will take a long time to stop, even at low speeds or going down hill/mountains.
I could see this being a good aggregates hauler, I don’t even think they make a 15 ton dump trailer but if you could get one you basically have an average tandem dump truck load out of a pickup truck. Save quite a bit on taxes and not to mention you’d have way better maneuverability.
I regularly hit 50k with a 40 foot gooseneck full of large square bales. I wouldnt hit the highway but perfectly capable, and legal where im at.
There's a reason you have to load precisely the right weight on the right axel.
The real world. Of the proving ground. With a single cab stripper 2wd F450. Of which they will sell 2.
Interesting that on that short grade on what looks like a cool day the cooling fans had to come on. That doesn’t bode well for being fully loaded up a long grade on a hot day. Especially if you throw in some altitude.
I would never tow this much with a pickup, but I have to say the standard cab dually is one of the best looking trucks made.
Agree 100% a crew cab and extended cab no doubt have more utility with the extra interior space. But i love that classic standard cab look.
This truck would look even better with a flatbed
I wonder how many of us would take half the power, half the capability for twice the reliability.
And half the price
almost there, 6.0 and 6.4 were around half of everything including reliability😀😀
Not me I'll take 500 horses every single day
Sounds like you are describing my old 7.3L
That drivetrain will never last a 100 k doing that work at those rpms without sinking some serious repair money into it. But this is the world we live in nowadays. On the other hand anyone needing to haul 40 k on a regular basis should not be looking at that size truck. I guess time will tell
They've underestimated this truck's capabilities because I was able to tow Puerto Rico closer to the United states just yesterday.
I don't have any numbers to provide, but just accomplishing that alone is impressive.
😅
How about going down and seeing if you can pull Mexico further away from the US? 😏
@@RealJohnWaynelol
ha!
Nice to see a classic single cab.
It probably only hits 40k towing in that configuration.
@@willbenner3You’re correct. It’s always the XL trim , 2WD and Regular Cab.
@@Mr.Worf63and HO diesel engine.
Good info about transmission temperatures. The guy said it was designed to run all day at 257 degrees which would freak most people out.
Sounds like the "lifetime fluid" promise
@@ts9271 Never believed that one. Well I know if mine hit 257 it would be changed soon after!
that's because most people are thinking of old conventional trans fluid which will start to foam and break down at those temps but synthetic fluid used now days are good for way more than that. But if you tow heavy like that my Ford owners manual says to change at least every 30k miles or when needed.
@@WhoThisGuy515the fluid changed but transmission basically work the same just more gears I put the biggest trans cooler in my truck when I bought it new has 220k miles on it and original Trans truck is used for construction pulling heavy trailers Gm says 200-210 is normal operating temp my Trans has never got past 200 even towing heavy on a 98 degree day without a trailer my Temps are 150 or so if I never installed that cooler I can almost bet the Trans would of been cooked by now
It's studied, designed and made to last for the length of the warranty and a day.
Imagine baking the TCM, O-Rings, fibers and all else that's not made out of steel on a 257°F sauce for 1000's of miles while pulling a heavy load day-in, day-out.
Yeah, NO, not good, I don't care who says otherwise, engineer or not.
can we talk about those absolutely massive stock rims. They look amazing
They are 19.5” commercial truck rims, that’s the only way 450’s come going back decades now. 350 dually’s have the standard 16-17” maybe 18” rims depending on year.
Let me tell you how rough these trucks ride with those commercial 19.5 rims. Wish they still had wide beam front on f-350!!!🤦🏽♂️🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻😕
I think those tires are 225-70/19.5. They sell for as much as $530.00 each.
@@Bill-sp8kb and ride like shit! Ask me how I know…..🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️😆
@@Bill-sp8kbif you're worried about tire money, you wouldn't be driving one of these.
That 6.7 is an absolute beast we have them in all of our tow trucks and even towing two big ol lifted trucks at the same time you can't even tell they're there just pure power quick off the line and definitely incredible stopping power Love them. I keep it to the rug all day everyday it don't care
At that weight, I'll just spend the extra $ and get a medium duty. Still an impressive display of towing capability by Ford.
Chassis Cab?
@@Nostradamus_Order33 yeah. I should've been more clear and said a class 5 or above.
medium duty? Medium duty trucks can’t tow this much. Too tow this much you need a true dump truck. medium duty trucks IE an F650 or a Chevy 6500 version have high capacity in the bed not towing.
@@remingtonwells7286 I know lol. An M2 106 international with a custom fit fith wheel should do the job. Expensive, but worth it if I'm towing that amount of weight on a regular.
how is a 450 not a medium duty?
Anyone else think 40K is too much for the consumer? I foresee some people getting in way over their head with this. Luckily very few will ever approach towing 40K. What will be sweet is that high output motor in an F250 or 350 towing a big 5th wheel travel trailer like it is nothing. Consumers will appreciate that.
Anything over 26,000lbs GVWR requires a CDL. But most of these companies and reviewers fail to mention that. They just want the wow factor of one upping each other.
LazyGiant that largely isn't true. Only about 10 states require you to have a specific license to drive over 26000 if you are a private citizen. Meaning some person could absolutely load up a 40k trailer and drive it down the road with zero experience.
The FMCSA would like a word with you. Besides VERY specific exemptions for things like farmers, RVs, snow removal, emergency or military personnel, there is literally no state that is totally cool with a regular, non-exempt driver loading up a trailer with 20 tons and hauling it down the highway.
Pretty sure that here in Illinois you can legally tow an RV (like a fifth wheel) over 26k GCWR without a CDL. Not sure about other types of trailers.
@@reneeandchrisforever Aside from the personal use allowance, most states exempt RV use anyway.
Seriously impressive machines. But I agree with other commentators here, the ratio of trailer weight to truck is a tad scary even if it CAN do it.
Shouldn’t be bad with the correct trailer and with trailer brakes
Trucks designed to handle it
It's the same ratio as a tractor trailer. A semi by itself is around 16k lbs. A dry van trailer is 20-24k lbs and then the load can max out at around 47-48k lbs. A 16k lbs truck pulls around 76k lbs everyday.
@@veterantrucker1018 But that semi has air brakes.
@@richpryor9650 air brakes can fail just like hydraulic brakes. The enemy of all brake types is heat.
Three things.
First: in the United States any combination grossing more than 13 tons (26,000) requires a CDL. Getting caught without the appropriate license, plates, and permits is serious fines and in some states could be vehicle confiscation or worse.
Second: Ford as a manufacturer has stated that any continuous temperature reading of the transmission fluid over 240* is causing significant wear to the transmission, anything over 250 is permanent fluid breakdown along with the seals and internal frictions.
Third: If you are thinking of buying a truck to get anywhere close to this weight, at current market most medium duty will be cheaper to operate and easier to repair.
Regarding the trans temp, good thing Andrey was only observing 214 although who know how high it could go away from the Ford test loop.
The CDL requirement part is false. It all depends on how the vehicle is being used and if the operator it being paid in any way related to the use of the vehicle. Also, many (most?) states have exemptions for RV's. In my state, I could absolutely drive that combination for personal use without a CDL.
If you plan to regularly tow 20 tons it may be better to just buy something like a Freightliner M102.
I will take the FORD Power Train in the F450 over the M102 any day...
@@ebnhahn1993I think his point is to move up to a dedicated commercial medium duty truck.
@@reneeandchrisforever Exactly. I’ve read so many stories and watched so many videos of owners angry that their [insert brand name here] pickup had major issues at 50,000 miles or sooner after they’ve beat it like a mule.
Definitely. Not necessarily a Freight-shaker, but if you are maxing out your truck on a regular basis, you should be moving to a bigger truck, unless you want to wreck it.
Get yourself nice Coronado glider with pre egr 12.7 series 60 and 13/18 speed transmission.
The ambulance chaser ads in the middle of the video are annoying.
They got to make their doe!
I hope you never watch tv, you probably won’t be able to take it.
Yes they are!! 🤔
You will live
Fast forward, it's easy
This channel is quickly becoming my favorite channel on YT. It was your video review on the F-150 Powerboost that sold me on getting one. All of the information on Ford engineering in these videos really sparks my interests.
Love that F450 regular cab pickup. Only thing I would change is make it a 4X4.
The extra wait of the front axel would take away the ability of the truck to haul 40,000 lbs. That’s why they showed the model they did. Completely stripped down hauler. My bet is even getting a better interior would take away from that number.
@@MOE-db8octhe 4wd truck would pull it fine just not legally
@@uselesslyopinionated8447
I didn’t say anything about it not pulling it.
Are you going to off-road it? A truck like that is something nobody is ever going to buy.
@@stchman Actually I've been looking at the F450 regular cab pickup in XLT trim and 4X4 for about a year now. Only found one to drive and it was used. If everything works out right going to try and order a 2024. Turning radius is fantastic. And the ride was pretty good. For some reason it was riding on Bilstien 8100 shocks which probably helped.
The way that break a way cable is hooked up, scares the hell out me.
5:18.. sounded like a rocket.
Amazing power, should haul all the groceries for the week
If you can afford to carry that much groceries. With the amount of groceries I can afford. I could use a bicycle.😂😂
Imagine driving one of these with no weight at all with your foot to the floor... (it's amazing)
You guys need to take that truck with 40k behind it and do the ike gauntlet test. Now that will truly show what that truck is capable of
sheesh that would be scary
I don’t think it would make it
@@scz718645it’s 100% making it Ford always done better than fiat ram and gm up the Ike been the quickest every single time since 2013 when they started doing the tests
Guy in the video said Ford's already done that.
@@ictpilot Talk is cheap evidence is expensive, so show us the proof.
I ran 600,000km of daily towing a 50 foot deck trailer hauling upto 24,000LB loads. Load/Trailer combined being 35,000LBS. I did this with my 2012 F550 with its 6.7 and it handled it amazingly, and yes i was legal weights as i regularly ran the scales. Only major repairs that truck ever needed was 1 rear end at 500,000km, a water pump, an alternator, and a couple of turbos(the stock ones were very weak). Overall i think ford makes a very good work truck and that 6.7 is a great engine all around.
Hopefully everyone took notice. That regular cab, 2WD, base model is the one with this towing capacity, now the crew cab 4WD lariat you really want...:)
Not sure why anyone would tow that much with a small truck. Nice to have that kind of power, but control of the load would be difficult over a long haul, especially in a NON-Controlled environment. Appreciate the video.
Impressive but I feel that 40k is just too much weight for a small single axel truck.
A 2 seat short F-450 truck, wow.
It was beaitiful
Wow! I still wonder if a person would be better going up to a non CDL medium-sized truck. I'd love to see how the conventional setups did....but, all in all, pretty incredible numbers on the 450.
I could see a truck like this hauling aggregates, a 15 ton load is a class 8 tandem dump truck load, but you could match that out of this lil guy. Getting in and out of jobsites would be easier not to mention you could prolly fly by under the radar without a CDL.
Anything over 10k power unit, or 26k combined you need a CDL. Period
@@jayrichards3672 you could fly by under the radar without one, as long as you play it safe.
@@jayrichards3672There are 18 states that require a Non-CDL-A license each are different and class of license are different A,B or Z .
@@jayrichards3672anything over 26,001 lbs combination unless the trailer weighs less than 10,001 pounds and the power unit doesn’t exceed 26,001 lbs period***
Regardless of everyone’s comments on price / reliability with loads that heavy / etc….. can we all just give credit where due - the fact that a pickup truck can even sniff this kind of weight is an incredible feat. That’s semi-truck weight
I have a 2021 f-450 licensed at 40k. I pull all over the US. Different weights but a couple stand out. 1 load 3 10ft tall 17k lbs total 38k lbs arched steel panels for huge holding tanks. denver Colorado to Western Utah hwy 70 used for the trip. 2nd over weight load 2 armored with 50 cal turrets. Load weight 22k lbs total 43k lbs. Southern Illinois to Northern Michigan. 3rd oversized load fuel tank for fuel stations. 19,500 lbs for a total weight of 40,500 lbs. North Dakota to glacier national forest Montana. This 2021 f-450 6.7L holds its own flatland or mountains!
If you remove the cab and passenger seat you can tow an additional 600 pounds
That's definitely the truth.
Nice max tow number. Especially if you're going to tow 20-25k lbs. Will pull with ease.
9,500lbs more than I’ve ever towed, and in a truck that’s 15 years newer. We sure have come a long way.
glad to hear them clarify what to do for downhill
Getting 40k moving is one thing getting it stopped is a whole different game, no one mentioned the braking, they mentioned exhaust brake but that is not the primary braking
Good thing you brought this up, it seems the Ford engineers totally overlooked the brakes. I'm surprised they were able to get it certified at that weight.
@@skrsys You do realize that the F-450/F-550 and F-600 share the same brakes? Ford engineers didn't overlook anything! The F-450 to F-600 also share the same wheels. The thing that separates the F-450 from the F-600 is the rear end and the number of springs.
@@dundonrl You failed to detect my sarcasm on the fact somehow the Ford engineers didn't consider the brakes and got the truck certified at that weight.
I failed to detect your sarcasm as well. It was worded in a way where it sounded nothing like sarcasm.
they did indirectly by talking about the exhaust brake capability and I'm reasonably sure, part of the J2807(?) Davis Dam test is stopping without the aid of the trailer brakes.
Growing up there wasn't any emphasis on towing ratings it was either it could pull it or it couldn't. We'd have our gooseneck weighed down with 6k lbs sacks of seed rice and have 6 of them on a trailer at a time and this was in the 90s with regular f-350s.
After waiting for F450 Limited since last Oct, 28th, I made the decision to pick up 2023 Ram 3500 DRW HO 6.7 Cummins , 4.,1 Gear Night Edition. I have lot less drama.. It comes with Auto Rear leveling and TPMS. Tire is wide enough to drive as is. It rides more smooth and quiter.. I love Ford, but Ram impressed me as well. Full body PPF and Nano ceramic installed.. Nothing more needs to be done to the truck. I can drive it as is.
Hi Andrey, can you please ask if you can convert your High Output to Waterless Coolant and would that void the warranty or damage the engine? Please and Thank You 🙏
Thanks, Andre! ...very impressive! ...was hoping you'd stop on the steep grade, accelerate and also stop going down the steep grade to see about braking performance! ...a fast/sudden stop on level ground would also be good to see. I have a '99 F-550 7.3 dump truck and part of weekly driving is having to stop harder & sooner than expected because of cars jumping ahead of me (into the large cushion that I like to have) and the braking/turning. Of course, this happens when I am empty at 11,800lbs AND when I am fully loaded with stone and equipment and trailer at 22-32,000lbs.
I had hoped he'd stop on the grade, too. In fact, the Ford rep even offered that as a possibility if Andrey wanted.
Honestly that’s an awesome looking truck
Man, a Max Tow rating of 20 Tons, is mind blowing!🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
That’s impressive! Crazy! I’m wondering where this will end by DOT rules?
It's just showcasing it's capabilities.
Nobody will be actually be towing that much weight on a truck like that.
But in case you were wondering, it can do it.
It will likely only end when the manufacturers run out of ways to work within the J2807 towing standard. Or SAE modifies the standard. 🤷
@@oscara.9265 More likely they will exceed the limit if they think they can get away with it. That’s been the pattern ever since heavy duty pickups have been around!
@@oscara.9265Im not nobody
@@oscara.9265 You know farmer brown in the year 2036 will be towing 50,000 pounds with one of these LOL
WOW, OK I missed you guys again you came to the Michigan test track and no heads up for us
Is that new gooseneck chain hookups I see? I'm curious why they changed them from the single puck to the bar between two
The powerstroke is nice and all, but what we really need to see is the 6.8 minizilla in action.
Nothing beats in towing the Cummins. I love the 7.3 but that low end torque of a Cummins is unmatched.
@@angelgjr1999 BULLCHIT. Dodge pushing that Cummins is nice but Ford has a 7.3 *gas engine that will dam near step on that Cummins, so comparing it to Ford diesel engine is not even a comparison. Ford makes better trucks then Dodge, I will go with a Chevy before I buy a cheap a&& Dodge
@@BruceDragon-sf1tr I like Cummins, not Dodge. Cummins is a separate company that makes engines. Dodges are cheap Italian crap.
@@angelgjr1999 you right about cheap 🤣🤣, but what I'm saying is Cummins is behind Ford engine. It use to be the best pickup truck diesel but Ford has the best now.
@@BruceDragon-sf1tr Which one? The 7.3 is gasoline
You never went back and asked Mr. Truck for his thoughts! Fun Video!
Excellent impressive video guys-well done--THE FAST LANE TRUCK.
How are the brakes controlled in such setup? Does the truck control trailer ABS, or does the trailer has it's own brake computer?
I LOVE the aluminum Alcoa style wheels they went with!!! Totally gets brownie points from me for that!! None of that simulated CRAP duallys normally come with.. this is REAL Solid wheels.
My 04 ram w/24v cummins pulls that much weight w/no problems 100% stock!😮
If you had to can you park the truck on that 7% grade? Is the parking brake and park position in the transmission all that's holding or does the trailer have some kind of parking brake? 46 or 47,000 lbs GVW is a lot for 1 axle with four tires to hold on a hill.
Another prime example of, just because you can doesn't mean it is the right thing to do. Nothing against the guys at TFL. Except for leaving out any real world breaking tests, the video seemed to offer a fair assessment of the new drive train.
"Real world" braking tests would have been virtually meaningless since the trailer's tires, brakes, and weight distribution would have affected the results way more than the truck itself. Whatever results they got with that combination wouldn't apply to anything else. The only way to make the braking test represent the truck's capabilities rather than the combination as a whole would be to disable the trailer's brakes and see how well the truck could stop the load by itself, which is also a valid test since trailer brakes can fail, therefore the truck should be able to stop the entire combination by itself within 80 feet at 20 MPH while maintaining stability and staying within its lane as per SAE J2807 towing capacity testing standards.
@@averyalexander2303 Doesn't that statement actual re-enforce my point? The manufactures will never be able to outpace physics. Most truck owners experience adverse driving conditions on a regular basis. As someone who drives a 2013 F350 4dr, dually pulling a 20k lb 5th wheel, I can attest most testing standards for towing don't prevent most accidents. It is impossible. From equipment failure, bad drivers to road condition create too many variables.
@@dstaff4134 Yup, couldn't agree more!
what is the diff gear ratio? what would the towing capacity be with a crew cab 4x4?
Probably a 4:30 rear gear.
imagine a hybrid truck with regenerative braking, how much energy can it recoup with 40000lb load
Yeah but a hybrid with a decent sized battery/motors etc. will weigh significantly more thus affecting the GVWR;. Probably end up losing several thousand pounds of towing.
Itd have to be an ev sized battery to store all that and make more than a couple minutes use of regen’d juice
Worthless the battery will be dead before the load is up to speed
Regen braking is pointless barely harnesses anything
@@gamebredduramax71look into Edison motors, way more variables involved.
I know many people would say most people won't be towing 40K lbs. But when the trucks have that much capacity and you "only" tow 20K lbs, it is just even less stressful. It is kinda like your top speed. If the top speed of your car is only 90 MPH, it won't be very comfortable to cruiser at 85 MPH.
The trailer gotta have a hell of a braking system
The F450 crew cab pulling conventional trailer at 30,000 lbs with Gen-Y hitch. I’m I missing something according to the Ford towing info if you use a step down adapter in the 3inch receiver it’s no longer rated for 30,000 lbs and the towing example in the video they would be breaking one of their own rating specs ????
They had to use an adaptor sleeve on the pintle hitch on the limited?
Mr. Kent and Andrey. My favorite FLT presenters. Best wishes boyz
Trucker here, I wouldn't tow 40,000 with a pickup truck.thats why we have class 8 trucks to handle it.🤔
It is not a fail test with single cabin. I wouldn't buy the single cabin pickup truck when spending 100k + for Ford F450 Limited.
If I have to tow at that weight I'll get a proper class 5/6 truck. It's not the power, it's the chassis...
8,000 pounds pulling 40,000 pounds would make me nervous.
Should make any logical person nervous. That weight ratio is downright scary.
closer to 9000
@@jeffdolby More like 10,000.
If you load it properly you have a good bit on truck and not the full 40k on the trailer
@@boomer1049 You would still have most of it on the trailer.
What a beast of a truck. Nice job Ford
See you on the Ike!
5:18 I thought my tornado sirens were going off. LOL
I'm curious how well it stops. Are the Brakes all Drum? And I wonder why they made the Engine brake to where you just had the option to Full on or auto instead giving you a low or high?
Pickups haven't used drums for a long time, all hydraulic vacuum boosted disc's.
@@joshpodolsky7740 damn so the newer 6.7 are also vac boosted still? I really liked the feel of direct hyd brakes like 1st gen superduty up to 6.4.
I remember back in1985 working at Alamo Steel company all our F250 and F350 were gasoline engine 300 in line six cylinder pulling gooseneck trailer load with steel rebars up to 20.000 to 25.000 lbs and those 300 in line six cylinder with a 4 speed standard transmission would pulll great all that weight they use more gas back then gasoline was cheaper
Just out of curiosity, what is the payload of that particular configuration? And do you know what the pin weight was? I imagine it’d be some impressive numbers with a gross trailer weight of 40 k
Unless Ford made some chassis upgrades, payload is under 6300.
@@jeffwill4923 15% so tongue weight 6000 lbs
8,000 lbs.
The all-new 2023 Ford F-Series Super Duty offers best in class performance right where customers need it with 1,200 lb. -ft. of torque*** available, 40,000 pounds maximum towing*, and 8,000 pounds of maximum payload**.
Source: Ford Press
U still need cdl to drive around weights like that right?
That is a hell of a lot of weight. It's enough that one might be better off looking at a medium duty F650-750 truck though. I can see sooner or later in these tow weight wars between the truck makers that someone makes a factory standard three axle 1 ton or 1 1/4 ton truck just so you have another axle worth of brakes and contact patch.
Those trucks f650 has no power. 3 axle trailer carriers and stops most of the weight.
@@foreshee10 The F650 and F750 are rated differently and at different rpms. A 650 or 750 may not be faster with the same weight as the 450 but it will handle it better. Have a trailer brake overheat or failure and good luck stopping it with that 450.
If manufacturers keep having these towing wars, we may not need Semi's anymore. LOL
As a truck driver I'm impressed, but wouldn't trust it.
Crazy that this is legal. In Germany cars only are allowed to tow 3500kg and only can tow more, if they have a gooseneck and the supporting load on the rear axle can be substracted from the towed load. Or you register this car as a truck or lorry and are only allowed to drive 80km/h maximum, which is pure pain.
Is 40k the weight of the trailer and Load. Or the weight of the whole setup includding the truck?
You would never catch me towing anything that weighs almost 7 x than what the vehicle weighs ! The most i would go is around 2x the weight of the tow vehicle !
Ford might got their issues but is a strong beast💪
Retired landscape contractor Whit my 06 4x4 cc f350 sw with utility bed,diesel tanks,compressor and full of tools and parts. Pulled a 14' Carson dump trailer for 12yrs always weighting from 33k to 36 k lbs at the pit scale. And downhill Kingman to Mohave Whit just engine break sometimes up hill to searchlight nevada Whit no issues not even flats always G r tires.
Ford like a rock 🪨✌️
That's getting real close to semi territory and damn I'm very impressed good damn job Ford. 👏👏👏👏👏
Definitely need to do Ike Gauntlet.
Can or can it not regardless;
For how far and how long are questions I'd want to know if I'm seriously buying one of these and what's the upkeep on it..
I wish y’all would talk more about rear axle ratios…
ford is always ahead💯
I am pretty confused right now where fit the f600 sigle cab right now? if it is not for the top towing capacity.
The f 650 is primarily a payload capacity type truck. If you have a service body on it like a bucket boom configuration or a rack body. Carrying heavy weight. Not really designed for towing capacity. You can tow with them but not the capacities you could with the f 450.
I have a 22 f600 with the 6.7, service body, and an 8k crane on it. Truck gvwrs at 22500 and is currently at 21800. I've towed 12k a few times off the bumper, and it does pretty well, but you'll feel that weight pulling you back on grades. The 6.7 in the f550's and above is rated at 330 hp and 825 ft/lbs of torque. For longevity reasons. The f600 is set up to haul, not necessarily tow. I bet you could comfortably put 30k behind one, and it would tow phenomenally.
@@AximusPrime33 I'm not exactly sure but I think that they derate the engine also do to most of the time that they're running Idle or slightly above for power to the equipment needed on a service body as well, where a high output engine should be run at higher rpms. I think🤔🤔
@@christophermcmichael880yup Cummins does this across the board
Are all f450 going to be 40k max payload standard or certain ones?
You have to get it optioned that way. I'd imagine you only get that 40k in this configuration in the video.
@AximusPrime33 correct. Base model and 2wd. Not to say a crew cab 4x4 cpupent, but you'd be over the legal limit.
Clearly this 40k rated F450 config is the 'hot shot special' LOL
Does it feature a plastic boost tube?? Or is that reserved for the consumer who can count on it failing?
U gonna need a class A license to haul that
They always conveniently leave that little tidbit out.
Meanwhile my 98’ Chevy K2500 Suburban with a bombproofed + tuned 6.5L Detroit turbodiesel dyno’d 270hp/520tq… may only be 10,000Lb towing cap but it will outlive the new stuff. Still get 20mpg’s on 33” tires, Currently 293,400 miles going strong everyday
What kind of gooseneck hitch does it have? All the 3" balls I've found are rated to 30,000 lbs.
That’s a beast of a truck. Where are they gonna go next. Seriously they are getting into semi truck territory. Glad to see Ford is still on top.
Of course it can tow 40k lbs!! Legally, did it one time with a 2017 F-350 6.7 dually 4:10 rear end with a 38 ft.11k lb trailer with 26k lbs on the deck and the truck did that load up and down mountainous highways with relative ease on a 3 hour drive. Ford makes the most capable trucks in the business and they should considering the money they spend on their truck division and the amount of profit they make from it.
I am an owner of a pontiac Vibe. What would ford recommend I could hual
I wouldn't trust it doesn't have brakes to stop it like a semi does . Those loads are what a semi is made to pull safely
I know someone who towed a 110,000 lb work-over rig with a 3/4 ton dodge pickup
If you want to pull 20 tons just buy a used single axle semi and don't worry about it
That regular cab dually must ride like a bulldozer. How would that handle the Ike?
1988 f350 super duty short bed would beat the hell out of your back so there that
40,000 combined, still very impressive!!
I'm actually very disappointed in this video because they talked about stopping that truck pulling 40,000 lb. I would love to see that truck pulling that load at 75 mi an hour and do an emergency stop. See how well that truck truly does keep that load. That's one thing I've noticed that tfl does not do any emergency braking with these heavy trucks.
I have towed that much or more on the farm. With my 99.5 f350 6spd and only 300hp with no problems. Wtf can afford a truck that costs more than my house. Would love to have a nice rig like that but could never afford it
I've hauled that much weight in hay bales with a stock 2004 Dodge 3500 with a 48 foot gooseneck trailer total length of truck and trailer 78 feet made 7 successful trips 500 empty and 500 loaded 1,000 miles round trip burned 1/2 tank of diesel to get the hay and 3/4 tank of diesel back to the house
Would be great to see 35k on the Ike gauntlet for Ford dodge and Chevy crew cabs in 95 degree heat. See which one defuels the most.
35'000lbs is the upper shear limit on the hitch I made for the car I have... that means the car can accelerate up to 35mph with a soft rope in it and, yank the stuck thing. "static 40'000lb trailer" why not just get a K-wapper with the common 12L Detroit?