Yeah it’s a night and day difference. My 09 ram is way more aggressive in slowing you down then my friends brand new f-550 mason dump. The Ford one is pretty much useless.
Yep, my son says it sucks being behind me because I let off the throttle and the exhaust brake kicks in I'm really slowing down quickly (12 Ram 2500, 6.7 Cummins, G56 and 3.73 gears).
You should make a spreadsheet with all the tow rigs you've pulled that hill with and what the results were. The brands, year, setup, load weight etc. It would be really cool to see all of the driving tests you've completed put all together.
That's great that the 3500 does that. But your 5500 is engineered to do that every day for the next 500k miles. First the frame, suspension, axle's and everything is heavier. Then the engine is tuned for tq/hp to be the max for it's design and materials. Say they used a baseline of 500k miles. You could tune that engine for 30% more hp/tq, but it's going to run like that for 50% fewer miles. The 3500 is aimed at non-professionals, and to compete with Ford and GM for homeowners/campers. They had to make bigger numbers to compete in that market. But when hp/tq numbers go up, with the same displacement, longevity goes down. There is an old saying, 'there is no replacement for displacement'! LOL Same with the L6 vs V8. The V8's going to rev higher and have a wider power band. But there is a price to pay for that, they do that for 50% fewer miles than an L6, and usually have more problems doing it. The L6 design can last for 1M miles plus, w/no major issues! JMHO 8) --gary
Actually the commercial 450/550/4500/5500 motors are detuned to lower ratings for longevity and perform worse in towing comparisons in the same weight range. This is due to their increased bulk on suspension, axles, brakes, and frame combined with their lower power ratings. The truck in this video in about the max performance you will get stock for the light to medium duty range.
Well done test Sam! No doubt those H.O.s are towing beasts. They will last a long time too because compression ratio is lower and they have egt's in check to keep it safe.
@@user-zd5lz7su9t, that is understandable. Although, you might experience less stress on the transmission due to gearing compression, but I agree. It is mire complicated and has its own drawbacks. God bless you, friend! ❤
I wasn't a fan of those mirrors until I bought my new 2024 HO 3500 DRW. Got use to them right away and man, they sure do look pretty at night time... Great video by the way.!
I'm on my 3rd ram and I now know for a fact these rams hold back on power for a set # of miles. I thought this was the case with my 15 but with my 21, I payed attention. At about 600mi I pulled my 20k toy hauler with 3500 HO. First time I pulled Eisenhower, I was not impressed with the power pulling the mountain as I was doing approx. 47mph. After 5k miles or so miles I pulled the mountain again around 50-51 mph on avg. After about 10k miles, the truck pulls the mountain at about 56 mph on avg so the truck has become more powerful as it breaks in.
The good thing about turning more RPMS is it keeps the bearings in the engine alive a lot longer. If you are making the same power at 3000 rpms as 1500RPMs the bearings have half the stress since it's doing the work at twice the RPM. That is why all the sled pulling guys won't lug one down below 4,000 rpms and like to be closer to 5,000. Heaviest I have been with my H.O Ram Cummins is 18,500 with a Yanmar VIO55 on a 30ft gooseneck and it was just cruising. I normally tow a 33ft RV that I have never weighed and the wind resistance on that thing is crazy.
What a beautiful truck man unbelievable the torque in the power they have that new Ford high output Powerstroke is pretty impressive I just don’t think i could step away from the Ram and the Cummins engines they have always been super reliable trucks
I just moved from a 16 to a 23. I love the new mirrors. It took some time getting used to but I do like them. The passenger side big mirror could use a little more convex-ness but I felt the same about the old ones.
I completely agree with you on seeing mostly rams towing. Especially if there towing heavy i see pretty much only rams. I live a little south of you in Hilmar were a little south of Modesto off of highway 99. I dnt see many 55 or 4500 theres a couple around they usually have service beds on then though.
I believe it's driven by location and dealers, in WY and MT I see mostly all rams, but here in the south I see mostly all ford's, and texas ford and GM. Depends on dealer I believe.
Same thing around here as well. Almost all of the folks with a trailer following then everywhere they go, they're using a Dodge to do it. I'm just a bit north of him in red bluff. It's much flatter right here nearby but we're at the top of the valley so we get some hills to climb pretty often
2021 3500 Laramie, SRW, H.O, w/ Aisen, 373 rears, hauled 4 loads of wet base two weeks ago from the gravel plant, trailer GVW at scale was right at 30k each load. hauled about 12 miles to job, truck was incredible. Absolutely impressive. Just didn't care about the weight. Acceleration was easy. stopping with engine brake was stupid easy. Awesome trucks!
@joshszydel8202 obviously it was an option in some places maybe, hmmm. When I shopped for Ram before getting mine, every HO/Aisin truck at any dealer was 4:10. Maybe the purchasers just only ordered that gear in their units.
Nice to see what these trucks are used for . If drivers don't used it like you do ur truck just cruising around town they will always have issues with emissions and they complain about their trucks. Cummins engine exhuast brake is bread and butter for these trucks. All big 3 trucks have plenty of power, but only the Cummins has best exhuast brakes. We have all 3 in our fleet but Cummins hands down best exhuast brake and never usually smell brake pads and shoes at bottom of hill.
The modern exhaust brakes are great. The RAM tuning and application is really one of the best ones out there. Fords I have never been pleased with it if even does anything. The 2022-2023 for GM's is good. But it doesn't activate the same as the RAM system does. It requires a brake press and partial activation before it really does it things. But it does work quite well once activated. I still need to make it your way and give you a chance on my seirra as I promised about a year ago. Good comparison between breakin on your 5500 and my 3500. I think they got about the same miles on them.
I absolutely can't wait to put my 2018 ram 3500 tradesman dually to work! It has the aisin transmission. It's 4x4. I'd really like to get a heavy trailer like you have there to be able to haul to my maximum potential
I pulled a load almost the same maybe a little over weight for a buddy of mine his Ford was in the shop for software up date and my truck is a 05 Dodge 3500 HO 6 speed manual 4x4 long bed dullay and we were both surprised how good my truck pulled that load and mine has no emissions or engine brake so had to watch our speeds on the down hill but his trailer had great brakes electric over hydraulic brakes and I would tell everybody that buys a 5th wheel or a toy hauler these brakes could save your family and anybody else who is on the road.
I thought to get the max 37k rating it had to be the single cab short bed?…
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I think he’s combining the truck weight, trailer and his load. I’ve always known when you tow you just saw the weight of the trailer and what you are hauling but I could be completely wrong as well.
I’m literally heading this afternoon to buy the exact same truck. Color, appearance package, bed, drw, ho, Laramie. I can’t wait! Glad to watch this before I do
Your 5500 truck weights 2k more then the 3500. Just look under there skirts and that's where you find the difference. The 5500 frame is double the thickness of the 3500. With stronger components attached. 1 test we all hope we dont have to do is emergency lane change because of the old van that pulled out right in front of you. It happens and when it does you'll be glad your in a 5500. Both great truck's 👍
Hey, it's a Brit here. I'd like to understand this maximum towing load race between the light truck manufacturers. When you have semi trailer rigs for loads over, say 15,000lbs, why do so many users want to tow, 35, 37. 40k lbs behind a pickup? Is it trying to save money/get more use from your only vehicle, or is it a macho thing - "GM all noo for 2026, HD 3500 tows 88,000lbs" Are you on.proper air brakes for these big loads. Thanks
Regarding the regional favorites, I've noticed that too. In South Carolina, we're largely Chevy with some Ford's thrown in, but few Dodges. In Arkansas they're big into Dodge.
it’s honestly scary that pick ups can tow this much weight now. the thought that some joe blow that’s never really towed before can go buy a new truck pass a cdl test and tow that much weight behind a pick up truck is somewhat scary to me.
@@eastbaystreet1242 cdl is required (at least in Ny where i live it’s required when the combined gvw is over 26k) but the fact that people don’t always follow “laws” is what scares me some guys got a new dually and his buddy says he bought something and it’s 30k pounds and he says oh don’t worry my truck can tow it that’s what is scary to me or these kids now that want to be super truckers with 0 experience
In just bought a 2024 ram 3500 6.7 h.o. 3.73 gears. I will pull a 20,000 pound 5th wheel with it have not done it yet but when the weather gets nice i will. Been pulling it with f350 2006 6.0 4.30 gears with allot of after market work on it to make it a pulling rig. But thought it was time to get a bigger engine to pull. Wanted 4.10 gears but wasn't able to find the setup i wanted with. Did find out i can put 4.10 in later but it will cost 5 to 6,000 to do it so i am hoping the 3.73 will do the job.
@@bunsguns8222 I absolutely love it, very happy with the purchase. Been hauling with it since the second day I took delivery of it. Comfortable empty (has cm skirted flatbed) and hauls our 46’ horse trailer with ease (around 23k loaded). Hauling the big horse trailer on freeway, 10-11mpg Empty freeway 16mpg. Empty city 13mpg.
Got a '22 h.o 22k miles and flattened the lifters..been in the shop for a month and still no word when they will have parts..bummed cause it's a $100k dream truck. But the exhaust break is awesome.
If you use Cruise Control down the hill, the truck then knows what your target speed is and will apply more or less exhaust braking to hold you to that speed. That might work better than just lifting off the gas and letting it coast with it not knowing what speed you intend to be at.
With a modded valve body the torque converter wilstay in lockup and I believe there is a place in coneticout or East Coast that can tune the ecu to keep the converter locked in without a valve body or tuning I am running mm3 smarty on my ram it's easily capable of over 650 rwhp. I would never try towing with this tune it would likely result in some failure trans or otherwise when towing always keep your tune under 100 added horsepower or have gauges to monitor all your egts boost pressure trans temp exc.
I would like to hook up with you at some point sam on a more personnel bases share info between us I'm thinking about a trans swap I don't think the old 48re is really up to the long haul challenge of this much weight continually. Thoughts.
Sam, have you ever towed with the High Ouput 3500 dually with the 3.73 rear? It has a lower tow capacity. 32klb and change. I’m towing around 24k with mulcher and trailer weight. Wondering if that 3.73 would be adequate.
Que chulada de motor se escucha una melodía que belleza nunca le quiten el ruido al motor que es lo que le da el sabor a estás bebé hermosas las mejores Camionetas 3500
@@VBELTandSON I went back and found it, thank you. Your videos certainly have a honest feel and approach to them. I live in the north Texas area, it’s great seeing some good solid Americans out there! Have you driven a 2022 or 2023 Ford high output with thier 1200 ft pounds of torque? I am about to trade my Raptor in on a HD truck to tow an RV. I will be daily driving it 95% of the time to work (I am a custom home builder). We will be towing the RV +/- 20,000 pounds, I do love the power of the Ford but see 100% your perspective with the Engine Brake issue. We drove through the Smoky Mountains going through Tennessee while going to North Carolina to pick up a duck hunting boat for my son. You live in one of the most beautiful parts of the country! Thank you for the reply before and any input you have is valued. My son loves the Mega Cab 2023 Ram’s SRW partly because they are way more comfortable when he is riding back there 😂, partly because he loves his RAM also, we are a divided family 😏.
I really appreciate all the specs and analytics you provide throughout your commentation. But do you happen to recall what the axle ratio is on this truck? I like bearing that in mind when observing the final gear, RPM / speed relationships.
Great test sam i haul hay in my old school ram 2500 cummins qaud 48re 4 x 4 and yes i haul heavy 35k 40k consistantly am running a newly biult 48re. Triple disc comverter lickip in all three gears above 1rst. Avrg about 6 mpg not surprised pulling this liad down the road at 60 65 in third lickup 3.73 gears and i know 35" tires are kinda tall. But it does ok condidering the teailer brakes are oversize for the trailer helps the braking no jake on this one been thinking about going old school cable acuated jake instead of electronic . Defanatly got the compression to do it. But id really like to get a day can class eight to keep this pickup on the road for a lot linger than pulling like this will.👌🤠
Hello, tell me, please, I own this truck for 1 week, a gusnek trailer, the mount is the same as yours. Without a trailer, the car goes smoothly, but when I hook the trailer, any irregularities on the road are felt very strongly. The feeling would be driving on a washing board. I let some air out of the tires, the car began to go softer, but not much. Could you share information about tire pressure? Do you have airbags working? Can you tell me your theory about the shaking, please?
If you have the cruise set at the down hill speed you want, won't it apply the truck and trailer brakes along with the exhaust brake at the same time? I couldn't tell if you had cruise on.
Great test and video! Looking to upgrade from my 15, 6.4 gaser to a 3500 dually to pull a 40' enclosed race trailer. 14k gross. I want the Ram Exhaust brake! Going dually not for the weight but for stability towing such a large box in all weather conditions. Plan on towing 2-3 times a week. What are your thoughts on the dually vs a SRW?
Big difference get the dually they are typically cheaper also from the base tradesmen all the way to a limited the SRW are always like 5 to 7K more than the duallys.
@VBELTandSON Win Lose, like Love Hate Pro Con. But if you can turn Lose to Win and so on, then that's where we get Win Win 🙂 If tuning, for Emissions Legal of course, and an updated lubrication technology...then is it still "stock" as you perceive? Both are removable, but yours for the Win Win while it's in your operation. And yes, I'm pretty certain you're not using most updated lubrication technology for the truck or any of your equipment. If you were, you'd be raving about it and mentioning it at any power or efficiency topic opportunity, which was in this video.
It’s hard to explain to people that have never experienced a ram exhaust brake how nice they are
Yeah it’s a night and day difference. My 09 ram is way more aggressive in slowing you down then my friends brand new f-550 mason dump. The Ford one is pretty much useless.
does the vgt exhaust brake work as good as an aftermarket flapper style brake?
Yes vgt is the strongest
I have a 2017 f350 and 2016 ram 3500 and I can say the ram exhaust brake is superb! Surpasses the powerstroke by far.
Yep, my son says it sucks being behind me because I let off the throttle and the exhaust brake kicks in I'm really slowing down quickly (12 Ram 2500, 6.7 Cummins, G56 and 3.73 gears).
You should make a spreadsheet with all the tow rigs you've pulled that hill with and what the results were. The brands, year, setup, load weight etc. It would be really cool to see all of the driving tests you've completed put all together.
Head of the spread sheet. 04 did it at 90 pulling the jet skis hah
Thanks for watching 🙌🏻
Good info Sam. Watched you for years now but don’t usually comment. I’ve learned a lot about trucks and trailers watching your content. Thank you.
That's great that the 3500 does that. But your 5500 is engineered to do that every day for the next 500k miles. First the frame, suspension, axle's and everything is heavier. Then the engine is tuned for tq/hp to be the max for it's design and materials. Say they used a baseline of 500k miles. You could tune that engine for 30% more hp/tq, but it's going to run like that for 50% fewer miles. The 3500 is aimed at non-professionals, and to compete with Ford and GM for homeowners/campers. They had to make bigger numbers to compete in that market. But when hp/tq numbers go up, with the same displacement, longevity goes down. There is an old saying, 'there is no replacement for displacement'! LOL Same with the L6 vs V8. The V8's going to rev higher and have a wider power band. But there is a price to pay for that, they do that for 50% fewer miles than an L6, and usually have more problems doing it. The L6 design can last for 1M miles plus, w/no major issues! JMHO 8) --gary
New trucks are absolutely NOT designed for 500k miles with EGR & DEF… Be luck to get half that…
@@MechanicalMafiosoidk some emissions equipped trucks have made it over 400,000 miles
@@ZayneMcDonald definitely the exception and not the rule as it used to be. I’d also be curious how much maintenance it took to get them that far.
I think you mean I6 not L6, I stands for inline buddy
Actually the commercial 450/550/4500/5500 motors are detuned to lower ratings for longevity and perform worse in towing comparisons in the same weight range. This is due to their increased bulk on suspension, axles, brakes, and frame combined with their lower power ratings. The truck in this video in about the max performance you will get stock for the light to medium duty range.
3/8s was waiting to meet up with 7/16s and 10mm. Great information on real towing test. thank you for sharing and have a great day.
Well done test Sam! No doubt those H.O.s are towing beasts. They will last a long time too because compression ratio is lower and they have egt's in check to keep it safe.
Wait till the 2025's come out with the new 8 speed. Yer gonna love that thing!
I like a simple 6 speed. Not a fan of over complicating the transmission
@@user-zd5lz7su9t, that is understandable. Although, you might experience less stress on the transmission due to gearing compression, but I agree. It is mire complicated and has its own drawbacks. God bless you, friend! ❤
Beautiful Rig!!! Like the new hood but prefer the old tow mirrors
Bought my first ram . 2017 5500 last year and I love it. I also bought an 05 5.9 cclb. Then another 08 cclb 6.7 g56.
It would be cool to see this truck again doing the same test after maybe 6 months just to see if there’s a difference
I have the same exact truck.. 2023 Ram 3500 Limited HO 6.7 DRW 4.1 Gear. Pearl White Interior and Exterior looks identical.
I wasn't a fan of those mirrors until I bought my new 2024 HO 3500 DRW. Got use to them right away and man, they sure do look pretty at night time... Great video by the way.!
I'm on my 3rd ram and I now know for a fact these rams hold back on power for a set # of miles. I thought this was the case with my 15 but with my 21, I payed attention. At about 600mi I pulled my 20k toy hauler with 3500 HO. First time I pulled Eisenhower, I was not impressed with the power pulling the mountain as I was doing approx. 47mph. After 5k miles or so miles I pulled the mountain again around 50-51 mph on avg. After about 10k miles, the truck pulls the mountain at about 56 mph on avg so the truck has become more powerful as it breaks in.
Interesting ski Doo does that on their sleds but it lets you know.
Sounds like a load of bollocks
I have the same truck I tow 35000 everyday with are directional drills. I just deleted and tuned mine and wow night and day difference.
The good thing about turning more RPMS is it keeps the bearings in the engine alive a lot longer. If you are making the same power at 3000 rpms as 1500RPMs the bearings have half the stress since it's doing the work at twice the RPM. That is why all the sled pulling guys won't lug one down below 4,000 rpms and like to be closer to 5,000. Heaviest I have been with my H.O Ram Cummins is 18,500 with a Yanmar VIO55 on a 30ft gooseneck and it was just cruising. I normally tow a 33ft RV that I have never weighed and the wind resistance on that thing is crazy.
What a beautiful truck man unbelievable the torque in the power they have that new Ford high output Powerstroke is pretty impressive I just don’t think i could step away from the Ram and the Cummins engines they have always been super reliable trucks
That was impressive 🤘
I've never taken a hill with my 21 3500 single wheel that I couldn't gain speed...lol but I'm only at like 16k loaded
I was at 26,050# truck, dump trailer and load last week. 1996 f350 7.3 😆 it’s the stopping I worry about.
I just moved from a 16 to a 23. I love the new mirrors. It took some time getting used to but I do like them. The passenger side big mirror could use a little more convex-ness but I felt the same about the old ones.
I missed the 4th gen style after towing with this all day
Idk if it’s just me but I have a massive blind spots at 4 ways with the mirrors, other than that I love them
I completely agree with you on seeing mostly rams towing. Especially if there towing heavy i see pretty much only rams. I live a little south of you in Hilmar were a little south of Modesto off of highway 99. I dnt see many 55 or 4500 theres a couple around they usually have service beds on then though.
I would agree.
I believe it's driven by location and dealers, in WY and MT I see mostly all rams, but here in the south I see mostly all ford's, and texas ford and GM. Depends on dealer I believe.
Same thing around here as well. Almost all of the folks with a trailer following then everywhere they go, they're using a Dodge to do it.
I'm just a bit north of him in red bluff. It's much flatter right here nearby but we're at the top of the valley so we get some hills to climb pretty often
touching the radiator! nice review. gotta love the humor! And the truck!
“Truck’s that way.” 😂😂 I love how excited you are, Sam. Keep doing what you do. I thoroughly enjoy your content.
these new duramax powerstrokes and cummins are in a whole new league when it comes to towing. Especially when it comes to diesels from the 90s
Right?! Such an unreal difference
My 95 12v disagrees...Well it would if the clutch could handle it lol
@@bunsguns8222 lol idc how much power a 2nd gen has it’s not as stable as the newer trucks.
2021 3500 Laramie, SRW, H.O, w/ Aisen, 373 rears, hauled 4 loads of wet base two weeks ago from the gravel plant, trailer GVW at scale was right at 30k each load. hauled about 12 miles to job, truck was incredible. Absolutely impressive. Just didn't care about the weight. Acceleration was easy. stopping with engine brake was stupid easy. Awesome trucks!
HO and Aisin, and it's not 4:10?!
@@AllAutosmine is 3:73 also
@joshszydel8202 obviously it was an option in some places maybe, hmmm. When I shopped for Ram before getting mine, every HO/Aisin truck at any dealer was 4:10. Maybe the purchasers just only ordered that gear in their units.
I ordered mine with the 3:73@@AllAutos
@@keithhansen3963 ahh ha 👍
Nice to see what these trucks are used for . If drivers don't used it like you do ur truck just cruising around town they will always have issues with emissions and they complain about their trucks. Cummins engine exhuast brake is bread and butter for these trucks. All big 3 trucks have plenty of power, but only the Cummins has best exhuast brakes. We have all 3 in our fleet but Cummins hands down best exhuast brake and never usually smell brake pads and shoes at bottom of hill.
I just came across your test....well done.
I have had Fords since 2012 6.7 and 7.3 gas. Ram has my interest for my next purchase.
From 1989 to 2023 is pretty incredible how far they have improved.
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Thanks Ryan :)
That dodge 3500 Cummins looks awesome 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
This is a fantastic video. Thankyou so much for making it. I test drove a ram 3500 today and loved it. Such a great truck. Now to justify a 100K....
That’s a good looking truck ! Awesome video Sam 🙌🏻
The modern exhaust brakes are great. The RAM tuning and application is really one of the best ones out there. Fords I have never been pleased with it if even does anything. The 2022-2023 for GM's is good. But it doesn't activate the same as the RAM system does. It requires a brake press and partial activation before it really does it things. But it does work quite well once activated.
I still need to make it your way and give you a chance on my seirra as I promised about a year ago. Good comparison between breakin on your 5500 and my 3500. I think they got about the same miles on them.
Yeah the ford one doesn’t do anything lol.
Dumped the 23 high country duramax. That thing was pathetic. Exhaust brake sucked worse than my 20 powerstroke or 22 ram.
I absolutely can't wait to put my 2018 ram 3500 tradesman dually to work!
It has the aisin transmission.
It's 4x4.
I'd really like to get a heavy trailer like you have there to be able to haul to my maximum potential
I love my RAM 2500 and Cummins.
Always great information. Thanks for sharing Sam👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
Once it's broke in and learned the truck will preform a lot better pulling and brakeing
Thanks Ryan. Awesome truck. 👍🏻
I pulled a load almost the same maybe a little over weight for a buddy of mine his Ford was in the shop for software up date and my truck is a 05 Dodge 3500 HO 6 speed manual 4x4 long bed dullay and we were both surprised how good my truck pulled that load and mine has no emissions or engine brake so had to watch our speeds on the down hill but his trailer had great brakes electric over hydraulic brakes and I would tell everybody that buys a 5th wheel or a toy hauler these brakes could save your family and anybody else who is on the road.
Oh it’s a 4 door forgot that but it pulled like crazy and the sound of a third Gen is sweet under a big load .
I thought to get the max 37k rating it had to be the single cab short bed?…
I think he’s combining the truck weight, trailer and his load. I’ve always known when you tow you just saw the weight of the trailer and what you are hauling but I could be completely wrong as well.
He is not considering that it is not the single cab. There’s another comment on here where he acknowledges it.
Thanks for the video Sam well done 👍❤❤. Take care of yourself and family and be Blessed ❤️❤️.
@USER-NAME_VBELTandSON I think not scammer.
Ram is the best ingine brake
Spick
Ain’t nothing for that girl 🤘🏼
I’m literally heading this afternoon to buy the exact same truck. Color, appearance package, bed, drw, ho, Laramie. I can’t wait! Glad to watch this before I do
Damn that's a bad ass truck
Your 5500 truck weights 2k more then the 3500. Just look under there skirts and that's where you find the difference. The 5500 frame is double the thickness of the 3500. With stronger components attached. 1 test we all hope we dont have to do is emergency lane change because of the old van that pulled out right in front of you. It happens and when it does you'll be glad your in a 5500. Both great truck's 👍
Hey, it's a Brit here. I'd like to understand this maximum towing load race between the light truck manufacturers.
When you have semi trailer rigs for loads over, say 15,000lbs, why do so many users want to tow, 35, 37. 40k lbs behind a pickup? Is it trying to save money/get more use from your only vehicle, or is it a macho thing - "GM all noo for 2026, HD 3500 tows 88,000lbs"
Are you on.proper air brakes for these big loads.
Thanks
Regarding the regional favorites, I've noticed that too. In South Carolina, we're largely Chevy with some Ford's thrown in, but few Dodges. In Arkansas they're big into Dodge.
You can turn hillstart off in the settings.
I need to do that. Was cool at first
it’s honestly scary that pick ups can tow this much weight now. the thought that some joe blow that’s never really towed before can go buy a new truck pass a cdl test and tow that much weight behind a pick up truck is somewhat scary to me.
Agree, though he said a CDL was required.
@@eastbaystreet1242 cdl is required (at least in Ny where i live it’s required when the combined gvw is over 26k) but the fact that people don’t always follow “laws” is what scares me some guys got a new dually and his buddy says he bought something and it’s 30k pounds and he says oh don’t worry my truck can tow it that’s what is scary to me or these kids now that want to be super truckers with 0 experience
Atleast the majority of people with cdl's take driving seriously. Because that's usually how they make their living.
I want to see how your DOC / SCR / DEF / EGR / DEF is doing at the 100k mile marker.
@@blanksender7808 why?
That front end seems like it needed an alignment. Steering was hard right the whole time.
Great video. Nice truck.
@@KLHobbies99 leveling hit was just added
love the truck hate the mirrors idk how many times ive almost swapped mirrors with other trucks on the back road two lanes
I just got this exact same truck color and all. I am gonna try and do Hotshot loads. Thankfully I live in an area with good freight
In just bought a 2024 ram 3500 6.7 h.o. 3.73 gears. I will pull a 20,000 pound 5th wheel with it have not done it yet but when the weather gets nice i will. Been pulling it with f350 2006 6.0 4.30 gears with allot of after market work on it to make it a pulling rig. But thought it was time to get a bigger engine to pull. Wanted 4.10 gears but wasn't able to find the setup i wanted with. Did find out i can put 4.10 in later but it will cost 5 to 6,000 to do it so i am hoping the 3.73 will do the job.
So the Laramie limited in that cab/bed spec is 37k or is that the 2wd Reg cab work truck?
Test drove a 2019 HO 3500, it was awesome. I would love that setup with a wide track front axle.
Yes
Should buy one;)
@@VBELTandSON was that 4:10 or 3:73
@@jayg479 410 gotta have the 410s
Pretty sweet rig
I’ve got a 3500 chassis cab coming. Can’t wait for it even if it’s detuned
I'm actually looking at buying one because of it. Better mileage and aisin tranny.
@@bunsguns8222 I absolutely love it, very happy with the purchase. Been hauling with it since the second day I took delivery of it. Comfortable empty (has cm skirted flatbed) and hauls our 46’ horse trailer with ease (around 23k loaded). Hauling the big horse trailer on freeway, 10-11mpg
Empty freeway 16mpg. Empty city 13mpg.
Very nice truck! Nice video Sam! Stay Safe!!!
Got a '22 h.o 22k miles and flattened the lifters..been in the shop for a month and still no word when they will have parts..bummed cause it's a $100k dream truck. But the exhaust break is awesome.
Jus22h I had hydraulic issues liftrers
Check out PDI Paul. He’s gotten rid of all the ‘22’s in his fleet for that exact reason. Don’t buy a ‘22!
If you use Cruise Control down the hill, the truck then knows what your target speed is and will apply more or less exhaust braking to hold you to that speed. That might work better than just lifting off the gas and letting it coast with it not knowing what speed you intend to be at.
With a modded valve body the torque converter wilstay in lockup and I believe there is a place in coneticout or East Coast that can tune the ecu to keep the converter locked in without a valve body or tuning I am running mm3 smarty on my ram it's easily capable of over 650 rwhp. I would never try towing with this tune it would likely result in some failure trans or otherwise when towing always keep your tune under 100 added horsepower or have gauges to monitor all your egts boost pressure trans temp exc.
I would like to hook up with you at some point sam on a more personnel bases share info between us I'm thinking about a trans swap I don't think the old 48re is really up to the long haul challenge of this much weight continually. Thoughts.
I have a 2011 Ram hemi. It’s not a diesel, but it’s a work horse with 200K miles. Not in the shop once
Nice tow test, love the exhaust brakes. Those mirrors are small! Is the steering wheel off center?
Sam, have you ever towed with the High Ouput 3500 dually with the 3.73 rear? It has a lower tow capacity. 32klb and change. I’m towing around 24k with mulcher and trailer weight. Wondering if that 3.73 would be adequate.
Yes, That is a mighty fine looking Truck. I tried to find the north Lake forestry channel, but it won’t work
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Nice truck but for a 2023 why is the steering wheel already crooked when going straight?
Leveling kit and aftermarket track bar needs adjusted
Thanks Ryan for sharing . Sam great video. Here in central Texas you see more GMs towing heavy than the others Ram is second then Ford.
max tow awesome
Que chulada de motor se escucha una melodía que belleza nunca le quiten el ruido al motor que es lo que le da el sabor a estás bebé hermosas las mejores Camionetas 3500
Hill assist has a shutoff in your settings on the big screen.
I heard you mention doing this in a new Ford. I didn’t see that video on your channel. That Ram looks good.
The ford test was in 2020 sometime
@@VBELTandSON I went back and found it, thank you. Your videos certainly have a honest feel and approach to them. I live in the north Texas area, it’s great seeing some good solid Americans out there!
Have you driven a 2022 or 2023 Ford high output with thier 1200 ft pounds of torque? I am about to trade my Raptor in on a HD truck to tow an RV. I will be daily driving it 95% of the time to work (I am a custom home builder). We will be towing the RV +/- 20,000 pounds, I do love the power of the Ford but see 100% your perspective with the Engine Brake issue.
We drove through the Smoky Mountains going through Tennessee while going to North Carolina to pick up a duck hunting boat for my son. You live in one of the most beautiful parts of the country! Thank you for the reply before and any input you have is valued. My son loves the Mega Cab 2023 Ram’s SRW partly because they are way more comfortable when he is riding back there 😂, partly because he loves his RAM also, we are a divided family 😏.
I really appreciate all the specs and analytics you provide throughout your commentation.
But do you happen to recall what the axle ratio is on this truck?
I like bearing that in mind when observing the final gear, RPM / speed relationships.
@@entertainmenttruelove3275 410. Final gear 70mph at 2,000 rpm
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No mention of the 5 figure Carli suspension kit on the truck?
Folks say I talk to much so some info gets left out but good eye
I wish we could go back to the days of driving trucks with full weight loss programs…I hear they preform so much better.
Highway 20 grade is the test! badass rig and test!!!!! Own a few rams the engine brake is the best
Thank you!
It’s barely squatting!! That’s a great truck
Love the hood, hate the mirrors, love the video. That simple😅
I haven’t watched your channel before. Would comment in more detail on the HO Cummins and the “regular” Cummins?
Less hp with the standard one and the weak trans on 2500 trucks.
Great test sam i haul hay in my old school ram 2500 cummins qaud 48re 4 x 4 and yes i haul heavy 35k 40k consistantly am running a newly biult 48re. Triple disc comverter lickip in all three gears above 1rst. Avrg about 6 mpg not surprised pulling this liad down the road at 60 65 in third lickup 3.73 gears and i know 35" tires are kinda tall. But it does ok condidering the teailer brakes are oversize for the trailer helps the braking no jake on this one been thinking about going old school cable acuated jake instead of electronic . Defanatly got the compression to do it. But id really like to get a day can class eight to keep this pickup on the road for a lot linger than pulling like this will.👌🤠
Wait did you get another new truck?
That is the nicest looking truck iv seen in a long time. I do think the rams exhaust brakes are better then chevy and ford
Hands down ram crushes the others.
Hello, tell me, please, I own this truck for 1 week, a gusnek trailer, the mount is the same as yours. Without a trailer, the car goes smoothly, but when I hook the trailer, any irregularities on the road are felt very strongly. The feeling would be driving on a washing board. I let some air out of the tires, the car began to go softer, but not much. Could you share information about tire pressure? Do you have airbags working? Can you tell me your theory about the shaking, please?
Nice truck
Do you think air bags on that truck made the ride smoother when not towing?
No. They usually make towing better. I don’t think a 3500 is a rough ride empty. Pretty nice for what they can do
I'm hearing that FCA is coming out with a new 8 speed medium duty transmission for their 3500
If you have the cruise set at the down hill speed you want, won't it apply the truck and trailer brakes along with the exhaust brake at the same time? I couldn't tell if you had cruise on.
I don’t typically run cruise control while towing besides maybe flat ground. And cruise won’t apply service brakes. But it will run exhaust brake
Of course new trucks are a thing of beauty, but in 5 years what will be left of the Ram towing at max if it did that every day and it was your truck?
Still going strong.
I just wished that Dodge would of offered a 8 speed manual now that would be the big dog on the block !!!
What was the light on the dash on the right side that would go on and off. It looked orange. What gears where in that truck
410 for max tow. And tow haul light.
Great test and video! Looking to upgrade from my 15, 6.4 gaser to a 3500 dually to pull a 40' enclosed race trailer. 14k gross. I want the Ram Exhaust brake! Going dually not for the weight but for stability towing such a large box in all weather conditions. Plan on towing 2-3 times a week. What are your thoughts on the dually vs a SRW?
Big difference get the dually they are typically cheaper also from the base tradesmen all the way to a limited the SRW are always like 5 to 7K more than the duallys.
Do you like the auto leveling bags? Especially on max tow loads
I didn't like them on my 2500, but wondering if I should have chosen that option on my 3500
@@roycegaida5300 this truck has after market bags. They are nice
I put leveling kit on this 3500, but she pops a wheelie when loaded, so probably gonna add bags soon
@@roycegaida5300 oh yeah definitely need air bags when towing with a leveled unit
How did get that max tow light to turn on? I have a 22 3500 with max tow
37k probably for a 2wd long box regular cab
Very easy way to make up for the 19.5 setup and ease that 37k load stress on the engine and trans hauling the hills. Two ways even.
But you're not asking how?
@AllAutos couldn’t tell you were offering info. But I wanted a stock truck for the video 19.5s for the win tho
@VBELTandSON Win Lose, like Love Hate Pro Con. But if you can turn Lose to Win and so on, then that's where we get Win Win 🙂
If tuning, for Emissions Legal of course, and an updated lubrication technology...then is it still "stock" as you perceive? Both are removable, but yours for the Win Win while it's in your operation.
And yes, I'm pretty certain you're not using most updated lubrication technology for the truck or any of your equipment. If you were, you'd be raving about it and mentioning it at any power or efficiency topic opportunity, which was in this video.
Those black wheels would look good on the 04. They’re nice wheels
Hey man how many miles did you put before of towing with you truck
@@lenincastillo8788 this truck had hardly any miles on it when I made this video maybe 1000
Was the Cummins broke in.. How many miles on the truck before you maxed it out
1000 miles. It was ready to go
Seems like the steering wheel is cocked what's up with that?
Leveling kit. New track bar needs adjusted