Macklemore's New Song Stirs Debates About White Privilege!
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- Опубликовано: 21 янв 2016
- Ebro In The Morning Debates the motivations behind Macklemore's new song
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So a black man calls out white privilege = people get upset.
So a white man calls out white privilege = people get upset.
Where the fuck do we go from here?
not caring and minding our business...
People of both races need to stop thinking idiotically. Macklemore speaks out on the right of lots of people, not just blacks. The guy cares.
Yup, this type of attitude could lead someone who cares about minority issues to say "You know what, fuck it, it's easier to not care." That's a problem. Let people help and if they aren't genuine the truth will come out eventually.
I don't know...
We exercise love and listen to understand as apposed to listening to respond. It's gotta be about love.
I really don't get you guys.... You're mad when Macklemore is silent about these convorsations, yet your still mad when he speaks out what you wanted to hear...smh
Doyin Haastrup What? Nobody is mad when famous white people don't speak up. We never expect them to.
+Chancelor Grey lol people are mad.
+Doyin Haastrup The problem is, when you say you guys you refer to the black community, but the black community is not united in opinions. Those in our community that outcry and complain on social media both about whites being silent about black lives issues and white people trying to right race grievances simply have their opinions promoted more than everybody else in the community. The reason for that is because negativity speaks louder than positivity, despite these people not speaking for the entire race. And also, those that complain about both truly won't be satisfied by anything but black supremacy because they are not-so-closeted racists against whites. But don't start thinking that all black people must feel this way just because their are some of us that like to tweet negativity and racism towards whites with a platform in black culture.
FFOELUV I don't know or haven't seen a single person be mad that he spoke out. Perhaps putting it in a song and making profit off of it?.....maybe that is the problem. He could just protest without having to be paid for it. That seems to be a bigger issue than a white rapper speaking about race issues. But you know, nuance right?
I personally like that he made the song and same love but don't just say people are mad without any context as to why.
Chancelor Grey ok
9:18 - shout out to Tiffany in New Jersey lol, she hit the nail right on the coffin.
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Yeah it's getting out of control... And who cares about the Oscars??? As long as you are a successful individual why does it matter what other people think of you??
If you guys followed Macklemore since before he was poppin then you'd know that this is in his character, he really does care about these issues and the world in general
Yeah the song is part two. First one was in 2005.
+HipHopWeeklyPicks ...White Privilege
I agree with Rosenberg on this.
+Chris B yes!!
U must be clown ass lame to Rosenberg is lame and needs to get out of our culture
U must be clown ass lame to Rosenberg is lame and needs to get out of our culture
Aj6711 foh
il give mack props for doing it , i mean we complain a lot about white hip hop artist not speaking up about our problems yet when someone does we still complain...i dont get it
amen
+Kenny Smith he speaks for the majority
+Kenny Smith Nigga he's talking about the black people that are being talked about in the video...."Who's we?"...grow up
What do you want Macklemore to do??? seriously??? If he doesn't say something, he doesnt care if he does you wonder why he cares. I mean damned if you do and damned if you don't. this is his 2nd time rapping about White Privilege he is well aware that he has it. he is sorry he won awards because of it. but damn what do you him to give them back. it's not like he's a bad artist, he's not to me anyway. he made White Privilege 1 in 2006. 8 years before black lives matter. no hate he does it now he has people questioning why??? like wtf you want him to do say silent.
black people dont know what they want their confused
No I want him to mention Eminem and not call out females like washed up iggy and crazy ass miley
+Ssj4 Randy he did back in 1999 but people clowned him so don't expect him to talk about it
+FatalityTV 21 huh?
Lol second time seeing your comments in my life that's crazy 😂😂😂
Why can't yall just give him this W
Because I don't like his music
***** i feel u I feel the same about Kdot tpab I don't like most of it musically. But the message I got to respect it but still it comes by as forced to me.
+Julian Clanton Cause you don't Understand...You'll like it once you understand
Tawanda Batana it's not that hard to understand I comprehend all the messages he is trying to convey. That being said I don't like majority of the tracks.
***** nawww I'll never call a Kdot project trash even if I don't like it. He the only one keeping Pac name alive. Just for that he'll always get my respect
Macklemore is actually good tho I don't get why people acting like he cant rap and he makes good songs as well and has always had messages
It's almost intrinsic for blk ppl to question white people's motives. We've always had to question white people's motives. We've never had the luxury throughout history of not questioning white people's motives. You know what happens when blk ppl don't question white ppl's motives? Dylan Ruth
+Just_Bri ---- BEAUTIFUL STATEMENT
But what does his motive matter in this situation?
dre27321-- NOTHING. BLACK PPL SPEAK N WHITE PPL BETTER RESPECT. MACKELMORE POP. IRRELEVANT.
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I think Macklemore cares. I suggest that he should stop caring because us black people are just too irrational. They really crucifying this man because he made a song about what's going on (something that people always claim is missing from music/hip hop) smh..
agree
word man. I think he should just stay in his lane. there's just no getting through us black people
Why would Macklemore even care about acceptance from blacks?
He's a rich and successful rapper with white privilege. He's good.
+BDWJ1987
He has already earned the respect of many Hip-Hop purists. He's wasting his time trying to win over those who dismissed him as a culture vulture and corny white rapper years ago.
BDWJ1987
Amen.
You need approval...just how it's always been if you want to feel authenticated
B/c he got rich from black culture
Andre Peralta
How?
POC always care about groups other than their own.
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+Elijah Ransom an L for the truth? lol
helloose221 L
+Elijah Ransom keep denying the truth L...
helloose221 L
this video/ convo is dope... well conducted. we need more convo like this. #salute Hot 97!
His song is apart of the growing pains. It hasn't been that long since slavery and segregation. We still have generations living who have gone through it, and so naturally it has been past down and slowly with each decade it will fade out. We just need to keep working together.
Didnt watch the whole video yet but daamn you stepped up the camera game, quality on point! Good work!
Thank you for this discussion.
It's so frustrating to see him try to acknowledge his place and the majority are still trying to tear him down like what do you want from him? What do you actually want?
I appreciate the effort from Macklemore. The question or skepticism from black people is wondering whether this is for exploitation or is he really being 💯. Also, I think it's frustrating from a black perspective to only have your struggles validated if you get a white co-sign. It's like, how many unlawful deaths got over looked and dismissed before this song dropped? But it took a white rapper to bring up one of the elephants in the room in order to get an audience with white America. Respect to Macklemore tho.
+Ban Fernandez that's cuz he has no bars and has to rap about shit no one cares about
Very good discussion. I enjoyed it.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't, I applaud him for at least acknowledging his white privilege (couldn't pay me to listen to a 9min song by him though)
Word!
+Ian Carter which shows his complete lack of white privilege
It's a sick song..Very lyrical
That last caller at the end should do her own podcast
As a black man, I have no problem with Macklemore's song. I don't understand wat some black folks are so pissed about. Not all white folks have a agenda. Mack has always been social commentary. This is White Privilege 2. He came out with the first one addressing these issues before he even blew up so I feel he is sincere. The REAL problem is why tf we have a WHITE BOY talking about BLACK ISSUES that BLACK ARTISTS should be talking about? THAT should be the conversation. Besides Cole and Kendrick, no rapper is making music that's social commentary that speaks on our community who are in the forefront. It's all about the turn up. And the turn up is cool, but there are some real things that need to be addressed. The fact that we have a white boy talking about our issues that more black artists should be addressing, idc wat anybody says that's a problem. That's why ppl talking about the 90s so much. Cause back then u had that. U had Ice Cube, Public Enemy, KRS One, 2Pac. Now it's only 2 rappers? That's fucked up. That's a conversation that we should be having.
+Lauren Brinkers I know that. I'm not talking bout 2002. I'm talking about right now in 2016. There was no black lives matter back then. Cops wasn't killing blacks like they are now for the whole world to see. White America talked about white privilege, but Macklemore's song was a Lil different
+NuisenceTV COPS have always been killing black people since black people have been in America. This isn't new.
+AAron Black Tru. But like i said, not on camera for the world to see. That's why the Rodney King shit was such a big deal. Now it's a video every day of blacks gettin killed by cops.
Black artists do talk about it. They've been talking about it ever since hip hop started. It's just that they don't get any attention. These subjects only get attention when somebody white does it...
+PXFification I know that. I'm talking about NOW. In this new generation we live in. Why aren't there many black artists talkin bout our issues? Besides Kendrick or Cole, who else? But we got a white man speaking on it.
I didn't know about white privileged growing up in my community as I was a "minority" or the cultures were so mixed everyone was just individual. My African Studies teacher, a black man, taught me about white privilege and how society views me. That changed my perspective entirely.
Macklemore is a genuine good dude. Kind of dude I would rock with. Respect!
Dude, human suffering and pain is one thing that is universal and we all share. Every single person on this earth has faced some hardship, discrimination, and/or has been ostracized-white males included, so everyone just use your brains-you're not special, you're not unique, you're not the exception. WE HAVE ALL...
DAMNED IF YOU DO, DAMNED IF YOU DON'T. MACKLEMORE SHOULD BE COMMENDED, PERIOD.
Scottie Beam ya trolling..The song is amazing and timley! I love the message and its needed!
Yo, this ain't the first time macklemore has talked like this. I did some research on his earlier stuff (which was surprisingly really hot) and he was saying the same message. He's not just coming outta nowhere one time with this, this is just the first time he's done in this newfound stardom.
THAT LAST CALLER MADE SO MUCH SENSE 💯
The fact that people think that an oppressed group being skeptical of others is something new is troubling to me. Black people are skeptical of other black people who claim that they are helping the community. REALLY. If you want to give up just because people don't willingly trust You, no one is stopping you. People are allowed to question. Yes, a lot of times they are really mean. But it has always been like this. No matter the minority group. If a group has been bamboozled by being lied to, forgotten about, and given broken promises, mistrust is a symptom. They are going to be skeptical of people who say they care because in these days "caring" is a trend. Do I think Macklemore is being sincere, yes. But right is right and wrong is wrong. An oppressed people will have the mindset of oppression. There are too many people who wanted to preach the right message but the message wasn't important enough for them to go through hard trials. Many civil rights leaders had to go through the same thing. They had to deal with the oppressor and the oppressed. Its not an easy task to be a voice. Nothing new under the son.
*Sun l0l
this is the absolute truth. If you want to help just help, don't worry about what others think. As long as you are doing everything you can you're good.
+charnae young If you listen to the callers though, you'll realize that this is more than sheer mistrust...they are essentially saying that He is kissing black people's ass and trying to seek our approval...(i won't even get started on the hubris that has led them into thinking that someone needs their approval for shit)... but seriously how insulting is that?
+Sir Digby Chicken Caesar That's the same way. Mistrust isn't polite. But it is annoying. That Username though l0l
4:45 - "We know misery loves company."
Nail on the head.
The last caller was the best answer, I'm mixed as well & it's frustrating when you see both sides with no support, real shit.
its one thing to care....but its another to feel
Rosenberge and Ebro know what they talking about
THANK YOU TIFFANY!
If you are questioning Macklemore's motives, you haven't been paying attention.
Race is such a big topic on these mainstream radios. This debating just creates more animosity between races.
The girl Tiffany at 9:18 sounds like Ebony from the first season of America Next Top Model
Brother Ali has been doing it but nobody wants to talk about him
So we bash Iggy for not speaking up but then we bash Macklemore FOR speaking out!?!? SMH
As a white person I would say...If you want to help with racism, it's important to listen to people of color. I do think Macklemore has genuine concern about racism, but that doesn't mean he can't listen to people of color who think he should change his methods etc...
to add to that, I don't think a white person talking about racism is the only way other white people can understand it. It could be a good gateway to understanding, but that doesn't mean white people should be the only voice.
damn idk if it's just me but the camera looks different...i like it!
I ain't ever listened to Macklemore before but that shit was dope
I don't get why people are getting mad at him for acknowledging that white privilege exists. Racism is not an issue that should only be tackled by people of colour. It should be spoken about by everyone just like how feminism involves both men and women. A lot of white people often think that racism has nothing to do with them and don't talk about it but the truth is race effects everyone because your race either works for you or against you. Macklemore is admitting to the privilege that comes with being white. In order for society to move forward white people need to stop being scared to talk about racism and acknowledge their privilege and that's exactly what Macklemore is doing.
y'all should listen to part 1
Thanks Macklemore for making America talk about it. Uncomfortable conversations should happen
It's the cycle... When one person or group is bullied or abused the the victim becomes the abuser or bully. Someone has to bit the bullet in order to have change.
thanks
What software do these guys use to edit their videos? I'm trying to get the same video effects when a caller calls in. If you can help me identify what software they use, I will send you money. Thanks!
What a lot of people don't realize is that this is White Privilege II. Macklemore put out White Privilege back in 2005. Why would he try so hard to seek approval back when no one knew him? BTW Rosenberg talks about this in a previous interview so he knows macklemore is legitimate.
it would be seeking approval if Macklemore wasn't conscious throughout his career about these types of issues. White Privilege I is 10 years old ffs
Why are these conversations are soooo short
Talk that shit Tiffany!!
The last caller had it, phrased everything on point. Then the convo is ruined because the hot 97 crew gotta make everything funny. Tf
Tiffany had flames coming out her mouth
your damned if you do your damned if you dont
Exactly. That's the way of life
I want to think Macklemore is sincere. Only time will tell. At least we are having a conversation about it. That's a start.
Rosenberg Is Definitely Correct With What He Was Saying
I am from Seattle, and I have to say that I grew up similar to Macklemore. I wanted to fit in with the gangsta crowd at one time...then I moved to Texas AND GREW THE FUCK UP. Keep doing your thing cops, this Seattle girl loves yall.
it's crazy how Mackelmore can support black lives matter and most black children don't even know there history and want to be a different race. It truly is sad. Honestly I commemorate Mackelmore for this song. Addressing an issue (black lives matter and white supremacy ) to a whiter audience.
what brand is ebros shirt lol
The last girl is completely right. Everyone needs to hear her!!!
Most Black ppl are NOT questioning his motives. We love that he spoke out! of course rating seeking media is going to spin it that way for clicks and views. which is sad!
New edited sound for hot 97...."that's so mean" Rosenberg voice
simply fucking sad
it's 2016 and we're going through this stupid shit
yall better keep playing the song. He broke it down. He really ain't gotta seek approval. He could just make his money and keep it pushing.
so he did not have to do it at all.
Period
Any one know anything about working in radio? Why do the 2 guys behind Ebro pick up headphones and listen simultaneously, then take them. What are they doing?
Well scottie brings up a valid point that stretches across the color lines. She said that sometimes artist may SPEAK on the BLM movement but not actually do anything to help the cause except to bring light to it. There are many black artist who talk radical but really don't make any moves to help bring about change. So since he is white shouldn't get a pass? We have soooooo many rappers who dont live what they rap , good or bad, its more than music.
@ebro Anyone who stands up and speaks against any equality should be applauded regardless of who they are or the colour of their skin, otherwise how are you ever going to get someone who's not your colour or from your particular back to give a shit and care
I see where the debate comes from. Tim Wise mentioned that due to him being white a lot of his critiques on race and structutal oppression were accepted despite being repeated from black scholars.
The last caller gets it. Not to pretend color doesn't divide, but we need to come together on this. Out casting people will not create equality it will do the opposite.
9:30 yep
mac is the homie he was down with us before he got famous him making that song doesn't help his career if anything it hurts it so I give him props
lol The name Macklemore sounds like a Harry Potter character
We are hypersensitive, I haven't heard any black artist making songs about white privilege. Macklemore does it and we are attacking this dude. FOH. I agree with Rosenberg on here.
its not about fitting in...its doing what comes naturally.
"Color Lines" -Watsky... maybe not better, but good
A lot of people who talk about white privilege who are white are speaking to an audience that might listen more if the person saying it looks like them. I don't think he is looking for approval. I think he is an artist that has the guts to at least say something. How many white politicians say that? Music used to be about social change. More music should spark convo like this, to make us think and talk to each other. I don't think he is speaking for blacks its been said many times by blacks but sometimes we are looked at as complaining. Good for Macklemore for at least making an effort. Tim Wise I like you too, "white like me" is a good watch and good read. Peace and love @houseofmargeaux
Rosenberg........Salute homie
He wasn't saying Eminem or white rappers he said artists in general have written songs about issues on race which is not deniable
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I guess when he said "spanish" people he meant someone from Spain, not hispanic-american. Nevertheless, that precise point is really accurate, and I support it. The struggle minorities have to suffer has its differences but once you dig deep, in the US context, similarities are strong enough to develop a certain bond between different cultures.
When Kendrick dropped Alright were people asking if he did it for approval?? No, he did it cause he cares so why can't Macklemore do it cause he cares
but i gotta give it to macklemore tho anyway👏👏 and this is even the second time he is doing so.
White Privalege II to me is just like Same Love. He's just trying to capitalize on a moment.
He made this song in 2005. Try again
Shout out to Tiffany. 🙏
The last caller is the only one who had a point! We are in the 21st century, and hip hop is and should not be exclusively BLACK music!!! Black people rap and sing about discrimination, while they're doing the exact same thing to white people! Get a grip!! It's MUSIC. IT's UNIVERSAL.
A pass? What does Macklemore need a pass for? He's pop. He sells out arenas all over the world. He has genuine cares and things close to his heart. FOH
I don't care, people need to listen to that song thoroughly. He's doing the best he could as a white hip hop artist
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
This unfortunately is Tru.
"as a white person who always cares about black issues" what dose that mean.... this is what i hear "as a person that dose not want to fuck up his side money "
just tell them what they want to hear
What was the lady on the phone talking about at the end reffering to Will Smith?
bring on mack for an interview !!!!
just give my boy the W
MAJOR w for Macklemore
I feel like regardless of his motive, the message is true and necessary for people to hear. Arguing about whether he is trying to hard to get accepted by black people is pointless. Nothing will come of it.
Stephanie is the realest!
What approval he already made a song called white privilege in 05' hes already done this shit when he wasnt famous
Yelawolf touched on this topic much better when he rapped about his thoughts on the confederate flag a few months back, but dude is under appreciated so people just be ignorant